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[Ep 9] You Can't Fake Wellness: The Truth About Living Authentically | Andi Lew · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  Welcome to Performance Driven Living, the podcast where we question everything.
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  We don't tip to around tough topics, we walk right into them, not to provoke, but to
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  get closer to what's real.
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  something deeper.
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  And while we dive deep into health, performance, and transformation, this is not medical advice.
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  Talk to your doctor before making changes to your health or lifestyle.
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  Take what lands, leave what doesn't, but whatever you do, don't stop questioning.
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  We are here on the Performance Driven Living podcast, and I am joined today by the beautiful
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  and incredibly charismatic Andy Liu.
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  Oh, Machu, such a seamless professional keep coming at me with the compliments.
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  Well, I don't know, because you're like a media train television personality.
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  So the fact that I have to go up against you here on a podcast, not that this is a debate
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  or something, but it definitely is skills being tested, right?
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  Well, it's not a competition.
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  I have been a TV presenter for decades.
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  I started out as a radio host, TV host with lifestyle shows in Australia, moved to America
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  about three years ago as an extraordinary talent.
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  That was my visa title.
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  It's amazing.
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  Isn't it amazing?
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  Because I have to go.
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  I want to read this.
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  But before you go any further, I can't let you introduce yourself, because my team
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  does this amazing job doing these setups?
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  Yes.
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  The things that they put together about the guests, like I wish they talked about me
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  this way.
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  So like this is what they said about you.
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  Okay.
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  You were an international wellness expert, best selling author and vibrant voice in the
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  longevity movement.
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  From TV screens to biohacking stages, Andy has made it her mission to empower people to
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  live longer, healthier, and sexier lives naturally.
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  She's here to talk about connection, cellular health, conscious living, and the radical power
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  of self-love.
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  Andy, welcome to the show.
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  You see, this is why you're the man, like seriously, you sound so good.
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  It's a bit Graham Norton vibes right now.
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  No, that's Casey Kiesel.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  I'm doing the top 40 countdown.
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  You are?
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  No, seriously, Mark, when we met, I was just like, I love this guy.
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  We have so many values that are very aligned with what we want to do with making the country
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  healthier.
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  So we met at my heart, spring gala, and you know, I'm just a fan of your work.
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  I think it's the mutual admiration society right now.
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  Not goodness.
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  I walked, so that's funny.
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  So Bridget Rasmussen had invited me to go to that event, and I think Bridget is like
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  everybody's speed dial.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's just so funny because she's so networked.
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  And I walked in and I'm like, all right, I don't know anybody.
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  And she's like, here, meet Andy, and then we just kind of hung out that night, which
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  was amazing.
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  Yeah.
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  We were about 12 other people that were there, which is also not a surprise because then,
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  you know, as the night moved on, I knew about 12 months.
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  I haven't forgotten, though, where we left off, which was we were going to go through
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  each other's dating app profiles, if I may say.
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  Oh, that's not a bad one.
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  I've never forgotten.
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  We need to, we still need to do that.
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  I don't know if that's a whole other show, but apart from writing 10 books about health,
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  two of them were about dating.
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  That literally may be what we talk about today, then.
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  And I think that would be hilarious.
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  And you need to get your phone.
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  I'm going to grab my phone and I'm going to go figure out what dating app that I was
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  on and show you my profile.
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  He's going to get us hitched.
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  It's hilarious.
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  Absolutely hilarious.
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  Well, but the thing is, so I laughed because there's been conversation.
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  I talked to Bridget.
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  And she's like, I want to create the app, maha mingle.
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  There you go.
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  See it?
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  No, I just gave it away.
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  Now someone's going to go buy it.
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  We're going to edit it.
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  Shout it out.
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  But the reality is like, but I laughed about it at the same time I was just like, oh,
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  that's really kind of funny.
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  No, it actually is very similar because so many of these dating apps are set up.
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  And I remember when E. Harmony first came out, right?
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  Dr. Neil Clark Warren.
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  Yeah.
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  And it's like, I remember when that came out and it was just like, wow, that was really
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  cool.
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  But we've got Christian mingle.
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  And you've got, what's the other one that's out there?
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  There's one that.
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  Coffee meets bagel for the Jews.
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  That's hilarious.
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  Yeah, you've got lots that are making sure that you're in alignment on the first, you
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  know, existence.
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  Correct.
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  Just to have that alignment on values with a partner from the word go, like if you don't,
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  you don't.
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  It's a deal killer.
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  You may have all the physical attraction in the world, but man, if we just don't believe
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  in the same stuff, this is going nowhere.
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  Well, I always say, so you're hot.
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  What else you got?
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  You know?
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  There you go.
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  I kind of like that.
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  Look at what she's doing here.
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  But the reality is is like, we need that type of stuff.
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  And when we walk into, you mentioned the maha gala that we had both went to.
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  It's like, you walk into a room like that.
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  It's like, you could literally just stop and talk to anybody in the room.
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  Instant connection because we have the same belief systems and also what we want to do
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  for the world.
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  So that's what's most important to me is that I left my country of Australia with two
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  suitcases, a bag of Lego and a 14 year old, he's 15 now, but back then that was three years
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  ago.
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  And I was just like, I am ready for a mission, a new life in another country that needs
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  me.
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  During my 10 health books to America on press tour, and every time I'd come off another
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  live show, the producer would say to my publicist, oh, we need her, you know, and it planted
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  a seed that I needed to be a regular.
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  So we applied for this extraordinary talent.
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  Visa got it and it was just like meant to be.
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  So when I got here and now we're upon reflection because that three years of visa just ended
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  and I just got a renewal that literally last week.
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  That's why I went to Europe to agree and to the country.
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  Isn't it crazy?
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  It's so old fashioned.
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  But as I stepped back in, I was like, I'm really committed to this cause.
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  You know, I don't know why I'm here, but there is this deeper knowing that I am meant
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  to help.
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  So thank you so much for having me on your show on that note.
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  Yeah.
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  And likewise, you know, in a couple of weeks, I'm actually going to be out in LA and we're
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  going to do yours.
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  And I think that's fantastic.
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  I think the exciting part for me is that we meet like-minded people and I find it to
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  be fascinating, right?
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  Because like, there's an energy that we all have and I think that that energy at a values
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  level really, really vibes, right?
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  And I think that's accurate and so I love that we met in a maha movement.
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  But there's a couple of things that I actually want to mention cause I want to actually dig
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  into your life and find out what's going on.
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  I mean, obviously three years ago, you decided to come to the States.
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  You just got a new visa renewal so you're clearly not planning on leaving the States.
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  Yeah.
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  The government wants me here.
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  Good.
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  Well, get an extraordinary talent.
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  We couldn't lose you.
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  But this idea that when did you make a pivot into wanting to be a voice in healthcare?
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  You know, I- probably when I was five years old to be honest with you, yeah, I just think
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  that we are born into who we are meant to be.
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  And from a Steiner education perspective, which is how my son started out with early education,
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  I knew very clearly that our souls are supposed to be on a particular journey, but through
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  a different education system that's too structured, we pivot those souls into different areas.
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  But if you actually observe that soul, they will show you exactly what they're interested
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  in and we need to nurture that.
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  So when I was five, you know, I wasn't necessarily nurtured into it, but I emphatically knew that
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  I was vehemently opposed to drugs.
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  And I knew that, you know, when my father was pushing that sort of pink cough medicine
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  down my throat and it must have been coding based on whatever that I was hallucinating
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  and I didn't like that out of body feeling.
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  And so I knew from that moment on that there was another way to live and that I didn't want
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  to change who I already was.
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  And so little things came up, you know, throughout my adult life and it just became more and
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  more evident.
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  And then I found the chiropractic profession and the philosophy behind that is that the
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  power that made the body heals the body and that we have an innate intelligence that
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  knows how to heal itself when we give it the right environment.
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  And that is run by our universal intelligence, which is God or the grand organized design
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  if you prefer that acronym.
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  I'm good with God.
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  Okay.
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  And so God or something greater than us, not to offend anyone, you know, is running our
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  innate intelligence.
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  You know, it tells our every cell tissue and organ how to operate like that without having
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  to think about it.
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  And so when we understand that connection, hence the title of my eight book, Connected,
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  a paradigm shift in how we view health.
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  And that's still the best cell I like today, you know, years later.
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  And it's on audible, by the way.
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  But...
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  Did you read it?
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  Did I read it?
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  Honorable.
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  Yeah, it's my voice.
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  Oh, it's okay.
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  So I'm definitely going to listen to that.
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  Eight hours.
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  I love listening to your voice.
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  Oh, thank you.
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  I'll take it.
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  Yeah, so I think, you know, I've always been on that divine mission of teaching people
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  how to heal naturally and live a greater quality of life naturally.
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  I love that.
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  And it's like, this, since you were young, so when your career, obviously you've written
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  eight books, you've done this 10 now, health care journey, you were a TV personality and
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  a radio personality, like was that a distraction from your, from your time wanting to focus
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  on health, or did you focus on it during that too?
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  Yeah, you know, it's so funny because people would say, and everyone's got a story or
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  an opinion for you, that, you know, being a TV presenter or a host or whatever is going
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  to be the hardest job in the world.
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  And I remember auditioning for NIDA, which was the National Institute of Dramatic Art.
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  It's where Hugh Jackman came out of and the greats like that.
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  And I got down to last 10, but they pulled the 10 people into this room and said, now
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  there's a reason you 10 are here in this group.
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  There were a thousand people here today.
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  We stood out this one guy, Johnny, and said, you stand up, take a look around you.
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  And only 10 of you are going to come through.
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  And that's just life.
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  That's how it's going to be with the acting world and things like that.
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  And so when I was like 17 years old, fresh out of school and I got pulled into this room
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  of 10, I was like, this is it, you know, I've made it.
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  And also I auditioned with a Shakespeare piece, Macbeth, but I chose to play Macbeth,
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  not Lady Macbeth.
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  And they were like, well, wait, you can't do that.
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  And I'm like, why not?
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  Because back then, in the time, the actors used to, the male actors.
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  It was man playing women's head anyways, I can't a woman play a man.
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  I just resonated with his story because she was the overzealous one telling him to commit
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  the murder.
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  And I resonated with him being manipulated.
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  So that was interesting too, right?
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  So I played that so well, but they said, you're all here for a reason because you're really
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  bleeping good.
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  But the other reason is take a look around you, you're all 17 and we don't take kids.
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  We need you to go out there and live the world, get life experience and come back.
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  And I was like, no, I've had so much life experience if only you knew what I've been through.
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  And I'm like, sorry, that's how we're doing it.
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  Well, guess what happened the following year?
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  They started taking untouched pure 17 year olds.
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  So I missed it out and I had this like unhealed trauma going, I have to do this.
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  I was on a mission to only be in the entertainment industry.
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  But then I fell into my own calling of what I always knew was health, but never pursued
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  it.
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  And I had sciatica and I was actually 10 kilos heavier than what I am now.
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  And it just never went away.
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  I was an aerobics instructor, I was like eating well, but a lot of things weren't functioning
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  well.
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  And the same nerve that branches, sorry, that goes down the leg branches off to the digestive
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  system.
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  So as soon as one chiropractic adjustment opened that sciatic nerve up and allowed everything
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  to you.
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  You lost the weight.
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  I lost the weight within like three months and I didn't even change anything.
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  If anything, I was actually exercising less and I'm like, what just happened?
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  Well, dude, and I never had sciatica ever again.
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  That's amazing.
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  So, you know, there are, I became a strong advocate for the chiropractic profession.
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  I won an award in 2009 for my dedication to the profession in public education.
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  To this day, nobody who's not a chiropractor has ever won such an award.
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  And it really wet my appetite for that philosophy on healing naturally and empowering people
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  to understand what those things are, like how to make, giving the body the right environment
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  to do that.
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  Right.
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  And the thing is like, I was talking with somebody earlier and we were talking about this
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  idea of like, if we could only figure out, and we talk about biohacking.
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  We talk about longevity, wellness, like whatever words we want to throw in there, right?
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  Like there's so many synonyms now.
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  And when we talk through this kind of stuff, one of the things that I'm always thinking
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  for is like, we need to not just biohack for the sake of biohacking, but the purpose of
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  hacking is a specific outcome.
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  And the question is like, what is the outcome that we're looking for?
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  And then we reverse engineer to that.
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  Because too often I think people aren't calculated about where they're going.
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  And it's like they're just kind of floating around and wherever the water flows, that's
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  where they end up going.
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  And it's all this very downstream type thinking.
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  And I think about what you're saying, you're like, this is where I wanted to be.
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  And because this is where I was going, I started my inputs back here.
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  I stacked the deck moving in that direction.
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  And I think when you're educating people even on this, right?
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  Like you're talking about, I wanted to be an entertainer.
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  So I knew I had to go do this stuff first.
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  And I wanted to influence health.
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  So I needed to go do this stuff first, right?
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  But it's calculated inputs, but our physiology is the same way.
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  Well, it's part of the journey.
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  And it's what the direction that our soul needs to take.
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  And I always say you're always on the right journey, even if it's the wrong one, because
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  we need to learn from the lessons.
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  And so I ended up merging both loves into a very unique role for myself as a TV presenter
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  and a wellness expert, because what we are born to do, which is what I was saying before,
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  is who we really are and how we're meant to serve.
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  But there will be someone or something that says, oh, you could never do that.
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  In Australia, we have a tall, poppy syndrome.
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  And I was like, oh, yeah, how do you think you're going to do that?
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  You know, well, if I couldn't, you know, but in America, it's like more of an abundance
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  mentality.
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  It's because of the population, like you've got 320 something million people here.
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  And however many people there are in California, that's how many people you've got in the
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  entire country of Australia.
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  Right.
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  So there's like an abundance mentality here, as opposed to the tall, poppy syndrome there.
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  But so I felt like, you know, I felt a little bit more American in that way.
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  And I wanted to be here and then really found the courage to merge those two loves.
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  But in my wellness coaching with others, I found that a human isn't really well until
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  they're doing what they're called to do.
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  But on your reflection of reverse engineering and all that, I always have this saying, it
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  is, you know, if you don't know where you're going, any path will take you there.
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  Fair.
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  Where there is is a whole different question.
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  I was just listening to an interview that was done, I mentioned this on another podcast
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  recently that I love Zach Bush.
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  Do you know Zach Bush?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Okay.
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  So talent crush.
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  Love him.
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  And actually, somebody said to me, he should write the four word to your eighth book.
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  So I was in contact with him prior to the pandemic.
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  And we were like DMing each other and he was like, send it over.
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  But then something happened with his family and he wasn't able to do it.
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  But he's like, God, when it comes to love him, yeah, absolutely love him.
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  And what's funny is I first got introduced to him at the exact same time that I introduced
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  to Del Big Tree.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  And it was in 2020 and Del did an interview with Zach Bush about how the government, US
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  government was responding to COVID.
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  And when he did this, this interview, I, of course, I think you know this.
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  I actually also work in the cardiovascular space.
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  So I'm particularly attuned to anything related to cardiovascular health.
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  And Zach actually has a response to Del, because Del's question was, do you think the government
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  has handled their response to this?
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  Now this was still in 2020.
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  So it was still under the Trump administration.
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  It was before the election.
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  It was, you know, Trump whatever.
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  And Zach answered the question in a way that blew me away.
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  Not man.
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  This guy just gets it.
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  Yeah.
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  The answer was, I'm not going to say that an administration did anything right or wrong.
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  He said, what I'm going to say is that the response to COVID isn't the response to what's
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  really going on.
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  Okay.
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  And he says, we're treating COVID like a respiratory condition.
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  He said, but COVID is a cardiovascular issue.
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  And the reason we're having such high morbidity levels with it is because people who are on
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  ACE inhibitors and other types of anti-hypertensive drugs are susceptible to COVID affecting the
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  respiratory system.
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  And he said, so what's happening is that the drugs that we're putting people on for their
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  blood pressure is actually binding to the lungs and weakening the lungs.
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  And COVID is able to actually attack the lungs because of what's binding to them because
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  of the drugs.
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  And he said, if the government wanted to make any response that saved the population, it
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  would be to teach people how to get off of anti-hypertensive medications because if they
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  stopped taking the blood pressure medication and controlled it in natural ways, they wouldn't
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  be as susceptible to morbidity with COVID.
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  He thinks very deep root cause on how everything is connected.
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  That's why everyone was saying he should write the forward to connected because it's such
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  a similar ethos on how to treat the body and find that holistic way.
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  And what I love about Zach also is he, during that exact same podcast, and I've heard
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  him so many times in total fanboying, of course, at this point, I didn't know him then,
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  but I do now.
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  And obviously, I know Dell now and stuff, but there was like fanboy moment when I interviewed
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  Dell on my podcast because I was like, dude, I'm going to confess, like I've been a fan
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  of ears for a while because I've just watched what you've done and he used to do the doctors
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  and I used to work with Travis Stork, if you know Travis from the doctors, like we've
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  overlapped in past lives.
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  But with Zach, like he's a storyteller and his ability to weave a story.
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  And he's like, look, I started my career not knowing what I wanted to do with my life.
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  So I went and worked on a volunteer team in another country.
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  And I ended up working in the midwife channel of an orphanage or something along these
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  lines.
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  So I was literally watching life begin on a daily basis.
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  And he's like, and then when I decided I wanted to do medicine for the rest of my life.
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  And he's like, I finished school and ended up working in hospice care.
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  And he's like, and then I watched life end.
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  And he's just like, and the one thing that we absolutely forget is that everything that
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  takes place between those two moments is sacred.
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  And he said, and we treat death as if death is this defeat.
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  And in fact, death is a beautiful thing.
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  And he's like, when a child is born into the world and he's just like, it is a moment
• 19:42
  where everything feels safe and then suddenly darkness and then that darkness is happening.
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  And then there's a light and you come out into the light into something new.
• 19:50
  And he's like, and when a person dies, there's a stillness.
• 19:54
  And then there's darkness with eyes closed.
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  And then there's a light and you open up to something new.
• 19:59
  And he's like, and we don't treat death like a rebirth.
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  We treat death like it's a defeat in life.
• 20:05
  And just the way he told them, I'm not even doing it a fraction of the justice.
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  Because he understands and respects the body.
• 20:11
  Yes.
• 20:12
  When we have that as our premises for understanding life itself, the whole way in which
• 20:18
  you perceive the world changes and then how you treat yourself and others and what is
• 20:23
  in our world changes as well.
• 20:25
  That's what's important to him.
• 20:26
  That's that connectedness.
• 20:28
  And you know, when you come to the topic of storytelling, because storytelling is healing
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  and how we learn our, you know, first people have been trying to tell us that for centuries.
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  You know, we can really understand and learn a lot from that.
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  So I think, you know, more people should be telling stories, writing books.
• 20:48
  There's a place, there's a library in Denmark.
• 20:51
  It's a human library and there are no books in it.
• 20:54
  And you can book a chair for 30 minutes and sit down and talk to somebody about their
• 20:57
  story.
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  That's amazing.
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  Isn't it?
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  That's so funny.
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  I absolutely love that.
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  I'm going to say this like, it's therapeutic for, I mean, think about when you, even when
• 21:06
  you're in psychological therapy, right?
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  Like what is it?
• 21:09
  It's storytelling hour.
• 21:10
  Exactly.
• 21:11
  I'm listening.
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  And it's, but it's, it's this ancient wisdom that is now showing up in the present.
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  And like, and I've just been on this, in this place where this is happening a lot where
• 21:20
  I'm like, wow, that makes sense.
• 21:22
  Wow, that makes sense.
• 21:23
  You know, and I was just downstairs talking to Dave Korsonsky from Heads Up House, if
• 21:26
  you know, Dave.
• 21:28
  And he was like, oh, I want to talk to you know, I want to get you on camera.
• 21:30
  We're doing this whole thing.
• 21:31
  What's your favorite biohack recently and like, but I was just like, honestly, fasting
• 21:36
  and I'm like, and part of the reason, like I just interviewed Benazati, you know, Ben
• 21:42
  and, yeah, and, and we were actually having this conversation about fasting.
• 21:47
  And I'm like, but we can go back to, to Christian tradition, Jewish tradition, Muslim tradition,
• 21:52
  you know, Hindu tradition, like whatever ancient religion we want to pull out of the bag.
• 21:56
  All of them include fasting as part of their, their moment of clarity, like when you're
• 22:02
  seeking answers, we're already, we're already fast when, like intuitively, when we're grieving
• 22:09
  because our body is digesting something else.
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  We fast when we're in love or love making moments because we're processing something
• 22:17
  else.
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  So if we are really intuitive with life itself and ourselves, there are going to be
• 22:23
  moments in life where we're supposed to be fasting and we are naturally fasting.
• 22:28
  Well, and with the point that we were, we were making and then I agree with you on that
• 22:31
  that it is a natural response to some things because when, when we're digesting, we're actually
• 22:36
  segmenting off portions of our energy for something other than what it needs to be used
• 22:40
  for.
• 22:41
  But Ben and I were talking, it was like, but you fast for 24 hours and the, the response
• 22:46
  and the brain is almost a new tropic level focus.
• 22:48
  Right.
• 22:49
  So we fast and then we end up getting a much greater and higher level clarity of cognitive
• 22:56
  function.
• 22:57
  Like, is that where our answers are coming from because we're just processing higher?
• 23:01
  Well, it's so much more than we could ever understand because, you know, and they're
• 23:06
  apparently our prisons in like countries like Ukraine and stuff where they actually just
• 23:10
  shackle them down to the floor and fast them.
• 23:13
  They starve them and what happens sometimes is parasites die off.
• 23:18
  And that's what's sometimes programming us as well.
• 23:21
  So we're having a literal cellular cleanse and maybe an entity cleanse.
• 23:26
  So there are so many things that we are yet to understand that happen with fasting.
• 23:31
  When we have a virus, we fast naturally when babies are teething, they want to fast.
• 23:37
  Yeah.
• 23:38
  So if you think about how the body is constantly healing, it's actually there's pain that
• 23:43
  comes with the reward as well.
• 23:46
  And that's just life itself.
• 23:48
  And we take that notion and can apply it everywhere.
• 23:51
  Well, so your latest work focus has really been on this idea of conscious connection.
• 23:56
  Yes.
• 23:57
  And I like that interpretation.
• 23:59
  Well, I think that's accurate.
• 24:01
  No.
• 24:02
  No, I like it.
• 24:03
  I like the way you just put it in two words there with like word economy, yeah.
• 24:06
  Exactly.
• 24:07
  Don't waste the words.
• 24:08
  But there's idea of conscious connection and how human connection actually impacts physical
• 24:14
  healing, which again, to your point, like relationship storytelling.
• 24:19
  Yeah.
• 24:20
  How does also this is bringing us into the dating world space again?
• 24:24
  True enough.
• 24:25
  Like how does all that play in?
• 24:27
  How would you see the conscious connection?
• 24:28
  How would you see that the social wellbeing plays into the physical realm?
• 24:34
  And I love this question because I am a romantic at heart as well.
• 24:38
  I'm a natural cancerian and I'm obsessed with, you know, setting people up.
• 24:42
  Oh, I can't.
• 24:43
  I love myself.
• 24:44
  Oh, yeah.
• 24:45
  I think we have this conversation.
• 24:46
  But you're late in the month.
• 24:48
  I'm forgetting my point.
• 24:49
  Don't distract me.
• 24:50
  Sorry.
• 24:51
  So you're forgetting it first.
• 24:52
  July 16.
• 24:53
  Yeah.
• 24:54
  I'm the second.
• 24:55
  So I think what I was going to say was that we're so scared of, you know, feeling something
• 25:02
  or being vulnerable and, you know, we've been taught to, you know, hide behind something
• 25:09
  or show the world.
• 25:10
  Like I had a beautiful profound moment when I was having some psychology after being
• 25:14
  diagnosed with a clinical PTSD about eight years ago and I don't like diagnosis, you
• 25:20
  know, it's just an opportunity to medicate and adopt identity.
• 25:22
  Yeah.
• 25:23
  But at that time, it was good for me because the trauma that had happened was so intense
• 25:27
  that I needed to tap out from the world and work on myself.
• 25:30
  So having that diagnosis meant that I could get support because I do look like a strong
• 25:34
  woman and don't get me wrong, I am, but I need it time.
• 25:37
  Yeah.
• 25:38
  So anyway, now I forgot what the question was.
• 25:41
  It was so beautiful though.
• 25:42
  I was talking about conscious connection and how do you think that social interaction connects
• 25:46
  to physical healing?
• 25:47
  Right.
• 25:48
  So it was just so beautiful to have that time out and having said to, you know, the psychologist,
• 25:55
  having a realization that you can still fall in love and be with someone whilst you're
• 26:02
  healing.
• 26:03
  And so often in life, we wait until we have the perfect time or I'm at this perfect space,
• 26:08
  whether it's weight or mental health or for men, it could be a financial position, but
• 26:14
  we have to remember that just going through life with a person, you learn more about yourself
• 26:21
  than you also do about them.
• 26:23
  And so that's a gift as well.
• 26:25
  And so what I say is like to people perhaps dive right in, perhaps give it a go and instead
• 26:31
  of thinking this relationship failed, you know, because what is it that you both taught
• 26:35
  each other?
• 26:36
  I think the most important thing is how you leave a person says a lot about who you are.
• 26:40
  I agree with that.
• 26:41
  Yeah.
• 26:42
  And I always like to leave a person better than I found them.
• 26:46
  And so on that note, you know, there was this hook up culture with, you know, the dating
• 26:50
  apps coming out and it really like, it shocked me.
• 26:54
  And I was like, I wanted to research.
• 26:56
  So I researched for four years and got on dating apps, researched.
• 27:01
  But I really just wanted to talk to people and find out what was going on.
• 27:05
  That's when I wrote that dating book about being safe online.
• 27:08
  It was called hashtag insta lovers.
• 27:10
  It was the most fun I ever had on press tour.
• 27:12
  But you know, I talked to people and they would say, hey, can we go on a date?
• 27:17
  And I was like, honey, you're already in the book and we don't need to go on a date
• 27:22
  because a lot of them wanted to be in the book.
• 27:24
  They were like, are you really an author?
• 27:26
  Because I want to go on a date so that we can, I can be in the book.
• 27:30
  So I used a lot of their conversations and just put a cowboy emoji over there.
• 27:35
  Hilarious.
• 27:36
  So then when the book came out, some of them actually contacted me and said, whoa, I really
• 27:40
  am in the book, but like I hid their identity and stuff.
• 27:43
  You really did write a book about it, they said.
• 27:47
  I found that they were all looking for a much deeper connection is my point.
• 27:51
  So we went through this phase where if you like, we were a little bit broken or scared
• 27:57
  to really connect, but deep down inside, I could tell that what people really wanted was
• 28:01
  to be respected, to be heard.
• 28:03
  Because if we go back to storytelling, half the healing is in the hearing.
• 28:09
  And so people just wanted to feel heard.
• 28:12
  And you know, not this is anything wrong.
• 28:14
  So if you want to go hook up and that's part of your journey, do it safely, isn't going
• 28:18
  to be my advice as well as expert.
• 28:20
  And make sure you're okay because you need to feel a level of mutual respect.
• 28:25
  That's the other thing to protect yourself in that level.
• 28:29
  But yeah, it was just interesting to see what kind of hook up culture came about and how
• 28:34
  I think if you would like, the pandemic really made us all wake up and realize from quarantating,
• 28:42
  we had to really start to get to know each other online because we couldn't see each other.
• 28:47
  Well those who chose to obey, you know, and the rules of like getting together.
• 28:53
  But it really took a shift.
• 28:56
  And now I see all these men like becoming the king and like really doing their work, but
• 29:01
  at the same time, you know, women are shifting their energy as well.
• 29:05
  So like anything with true science, which is quantum physics, you've got the pendulum
• 29:10
  that swings really far this way, then it goes the other way.
• 29:13
  And now hopefully it's coming back to balance, which is where we need to be.
• 29:17
  We'll see.
• 29:18
  I've got a theory on that.
• 29:20
  It's come up multiple times over the last few days and talking to people and this idea
• 29:24
  that I'm sure you've heard the phrase that strong men create good times, good times create
• 29:28
  weak men, weak men create bad times and bad times create strong men.
• 29:34
  Wow.
• 29:35
  This circle that continues, this cycle that evolution moves through because when people
• 29:42
  are brought up, you know, in a culture where everything is plentiful, they don't understand
• 29:46
  the work that goes into it.
• 29:48
  And my theory right now, and you know, speaking of social connection as well as health
• 29:52
  connection and full spectrum thinking, my theory in this right now is that we're in a
• 29:59
  time that bad times is creating great men.
• 30:02
  And I think I'm super excited about what I'm seeing about a young people today that
• 30:06
  statistics that I'm seeing in the 20-somethings, like for instance, the men, I've said this
• 30:11
  multiple times over the last couple of days, but statistically the largest growing, the
• 30:15
  fastest growing group of church attenders are 20-something-year-old men.
• 30:22
  You know, typically the group that would never step foot in a church is actually the fastest
• 30:26
  growing people of a population in churches.
• 30:29
  We're seeing that alcohol consumption is at a 70-year low, because this generation just
• 30:36
  isn't interested.
• 30:37
  I love it.
• 30:38
  And I'm just seeing this consciousness.
• 30:41
  And I think COVID did a lot for that.
• 30:42
  And I think there's a tailwind, and I think Bobby, I admire Bobby tremendously, but at the
• 30:49
  same time, I'm like, Bobby's also riding a wave.
• 30:52
  He didn't create the wave, you know, Trump is this picture of masculinity for many people.
• 30:57
  It's like, but he too is riding a wave.
• 30:59
  He got elected.
• 31:00
  He didn't create it.
• 31:01
  He got elected because that was already moving.
• 31:05
  And I think the hard times that we've seen over the last while, particularly since COVID,
• 31:10
  have created people going, okay, there's an issue.
• 31:13
  And I think we're seeing now in the college age crowd, we're seeing what happened because
• 31:17
  of high school lockdowns.
• 31:20
  These were the students who did high school online and got isolated and ended up with
• 31:24
  social...
• 31:26
  Definitely.
• 31:27
  ...deficits.
• 31:28
  ...and ended up with educational gaps and ended up in all of these things.
• 31:32
  And now they're having to reintegrate.
• 31:35
  But the reintegrating, and I'm actually going to go so far as to say, a lot of these
• 31:38
  students reintegrated because they weren't even being programmed by a school.
• 31:42
  They actually were spending more time with their families.
• 31:46
  And we're just seeing, I would almost say, a values shift out of young people.
• 31:52
  And I think that's why, from a social perspective, we're seeing a group of people that are
• 31:57
  valuing that type of contact.
• 31:59
  And we can argue about text messages and tick-tock and all the other kind of craziness
• 32:03
  that young people get involved in.
• 32:05
  But the reality is, is there craving social connection right now?
• 32:08
  Of course.
• 32:09
  And I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing this flood into healthcare as well.
• 32:12
  Okay.
• 32:13
  And I'm glad we've got voices like Bobby to call out the BS, but voices like Bobby
• 32:18
  wouldn't be in the position that he's in if the people didn't respond to it.
• 32:24
  Bobby's followers pushed Trump over the edge in an election.
• 32:29
  But it was Bobby's alliance that ended up causing it because Bobby's followers were passionate.
• 32:36
  So let me bring something out then.
• 32:39
  We need to be careful of stories or phrases or whatever that can continue to create more
• 32:43
  of what we've already got.
• 32:45
  So if there's something that we all aspire to be or to create or to have a world different,
• 32:51
  we need to, we've got to remember in the work of Dr. Bruce Lipton who talks about epigenetics,
• 32:56
  that if you actually claim or proclaim or say something speaking it into existence, you're
• 33:01
  actually creating it at this very moment across, rippling across the entire world.
• 33:09
  So we need to start creating more than we're consuming and creating our own narratives
• 33:14
  of what we want the world to look like.
• 33:17
  And so right now, anyone that's listening needs to kind of speak into existence, their
• 33:23
  own utopia.
• 33:24
  That's how we can all contribute because this is evidence of what you're saying that
• 33:29
  Bobby's just following the way in which the world is already moving and we are all reflections
• 33:35
  of him.
• 33:36
  I don't want to come across this in.
• 33:38
  The Bobby's following the way the world's moving.
• 33:40
  I think Bobby's.
• 33:41
  It's also a leader.
• 33:42
  Don't get me wrong.
• 33:43
  But Bobby's aligned with the way the world is moving.
• 33:45
  Right.
• 33:46
  That's a great way.
• 33:47
  It's almost like he's the guy on the surfboard, but the wave is already there.
• 33:51
  Yes.
• 33:52
  So then on my point is that we're all a part of the wave, just like we're all children
• 33:57
  of God, we're all one, we're one, this is my point is that when we realize that we are
• 34:02
  all connected, that's where the power comes in.
• 34:07
  And I think what I would like to see, and I think I'm already seeing as a visionary,
• 34:11
  a new type of government where we are all one and we do all figure it out for ourselves
• 34:17
  and learn how to coexist.
• 34:19
  We will always need some kind of leadership, don't get me wrong.
• 34:23
  But this is a very empowering time for us.
• 34:27
  We've already seen a lot of corruption with the pharmaceutical industries and things
• 34:30
  like that are being exposed.
• 34:32
  You know, I wrote in my tenth book, Treasured Chest, exposing explants and empowering you.
• 34:37
  This is the subject or it's a conduit for many other subjects around who's really in
• 34:42
  control and how we can no longer be, you know, whether it's victims of medical gaslighting
• 34:49
  people, it's described it as, or just victims of our genetic predisposition, right?
• 34:57
  So when we start to realize that we can change things, we can take control, we are in control.
• 35:02
  This becomes very empowering.
• 35:04
  So we're in an exciting time right now that we're all living in, where we're witnessing
• 35:08
  this wave, we're witnessing exceptional leadership and we're almost wanting to be that.
• 35:13
  I think the danger is that if we even put these exceptional leaders on a huge pedestal
• 35:18
  and forget that we have the power too, that's why Marha Action is a really important place
• 35:25
  to contribute.
• 35:27
  You know, that if we start to actually take control and do things within our community,
• 35:33
  we can all contribute to this greater cause.
• 35:35
  I agree with you on that.
• 35:37
  There is something bigger than us that we are connected to.
• 35:40
  I believe that socially, that is a connecting point for us.
• 35:45
  I agree with that.
• 35:46
  I agree that Marha itself is a movement, not an organization because of the people for
• 35:53
  the people.
• 35:54
  Absolutely.
• 35:55
  But that Marha, this idea of making America healthy again, we should all be behind that.
• 36:00
  That's not a part of it.
• 36:01
  Why did we wait for the government to inspire us to do that in the first place?
• 36:05
  This is a little weird.
• 36:06
  Right.
• 36:07
  I think there's been a push for it, but I think that the thing is, I would say that the
• 36:11
  current Marha movement is, it's actually just activating people who already wanted this,
• 36:17
  but there was no unified voice.
• 36:19
  And I think now we're just hearing the unified voice of a people who felt suppressed.
• 36:25
  That now all of a sudden feel like collectively where there's enough of us who want this
• 36:29
  to happen and now you're seeing the shake up and it's almost like like a like a revolution
• 36:35
  where... Right, it's a health revolution. Yeah, you're overthrowing the healthcare
• 36:39
  system in a weird way. True. You know, so it really is... Because of brave people like RFK
• 36:44
  Jr. Correct. Who's like basically being completely brave and putting himself last. Absolutely.
• 36:50
  And I guess even what I wanted to share was what I love about him is that when we saw him
• 36:56
  shake hands on stage with Donald Trump and joined forces, it doesn't matter who they are. What
• 37:03
  it shows is two independent people who showed us what unity looks like. I agree with that. Those
• 37:09
  are two of the most strong world men alive and learn how to play together for a common cause.
• 37:14
  Yes. And if we can look at that, if that's all that picture tells you, then that has a ripple effect
• 37:21
  as a mirror that we can... And but you've got to remember this is perception. How do you perceive
• 37:27
  anything in the world? Perception is everything. That was the last chapter of my book connected.
• 37:31
  Perception is everything. Because with quantum physics, which is the only true sciences, good,
• 37:36
  bad day, night, black, white, pain, pleasure, there's an equal and opposite to everything. But if you
• 37:42
  are in balance and you see things in a balanced way, you will see things that yes, this is, you know,
• 37:49
  a unity, a unification, and how can we mirror that? Because if I say to you, oh, you're just
• 37:55
  such a beautiful light, it's because it's the light in me that sees the light in you. Yeah, the energy
• 38:00
  we emit is the energy we attract. But we are reflections because we are one. So on that note,
• 38:06
  that's why it's our duty to be healthy because that emanates to the rest of the world and we reflect
• 38:12
  that. I want to give you a minute to talk about your latest book. Treasured Test. Yes. Treasured
• 38:18
  Test. And I've heard you talk about it. And I know it's your story about having breast implants
• 38:22
  removed. What brings you to that? I mean, obviously, I know what brings you to that journey. But in writing
• 38:30
  a book about it, tell that story for us. Oh my gosh. And you know what? It's the most beautiful
• 38:36
  story. And it was the hardest story to tell. Like I cried rivers for two years before I had my
• 38:42
  breast implants removed because I had to go through the deep shame and forgive myself on why
• 38:47
  on earth a wellness expert would have done that to herself in the first place. And that your
• 38:51
  discover is a very unique reason. You know, and also I couldn't afford the surgery. It's like
• 38:58
  it was $14,000 and up and I needed it immediately. And also at the time, there weren't enough
• 39:04
  ex-plant surgeons. It was very specific, almost like an oncological type procedure. So the weight
• 39:09
  list was like between six and 12 months long. Couple that with the fact that I was literally
• 39:15
  slowly dying because six surgeons and an MRI said that I was fine, but there was a rupture
• 39:22
  in the left side exactly to where I was pinpointing it to be. And so medicine isn't a perfect science.
• 39:28
  And nobody found this hole. They were looking for a traditional hole. In my case, it was a fold
• 39:33
  that became a weak point. And that's where the hole was. And the professor that removed the implants
• 39:40
  and the surrounding scar tissue woke me up from the surgery and said, wow, you were right.
• 39:45
  It was exactly where you were pinpointing it to be. And you taught me a lot today. I'm going to have
• 39:49
  to go back and check all of my patients. So there's a lot to be said for women's intuition and us
• 39:55
  teaching also the medical profession that we have intuition on what's really going on with our bodies.
• 40:02
  So he went and did some new research, some data to support that indeed implants are an
• 40:07
  inflammatory driver creating a cytokine storm. It doesn't matter whether you've got saline,
• 40:11
  which create mold or silicon, which can leach into the body because even the FDA have announced
• 40:15
  that silicon isn't inert. It's still a foreign body within the body, which creates a systemic response
• 40:20
  like a mast cell activation syndrome. So having that new data was fantastic because we never had
• 40:26
  that before. So my personal opinion now is that breast implants just are not biocompatible. And it's
• 40:33
  just a ticking time bomb. Well, it's an invasive procedure to begin with, but the idea that it's
• 40:42
  a vanity, it's an elective surgery anyway. Save the people who do it because of mastectomies and
• 40:47
  breast cancer survivors and so on. So I understand the necessity or the desire at that point.
• 40:54
  But yeah, I mean, it's a cosmetic surgery for most women. Which is why I've deep dived into this
• 41:00
  subject in the book and I've chosen the word chest on purpose. I haven't chosen boob,
• 41:07
  tit, breast, jugs, none of that because that's actually what got us into this mess in the first place.
• 41:14
  When a human fetus, a female fetus is being developed in the womb, the breast tissue is actually
• 41:19
  immune cells. We are so much more and we haven't in the Western world understood or given enough
• 41:24
  respect to the female body. And so it's really a Western world issue, right? Because you see people
• 41:30
  in beautiful black cultures wearing grass skirts and no tops. Like it's about context. So for me,
• 41:37
  it wasn't even about aesthetics and what is behind the chest is the heart. So that's why I've got
• 41:43
  my hands on my heart, not on the breasts and showing the deep scars because I remember thinking to
• 41:50
  myself, why have I done this photo? But I hopped out of the shower one time, looked at myself in the
• 41:55
  mirror and saw the scars and went, whoa, these are my war wounds. And I was like, what am I going to
• 42:02
  share with the world? Because all women are scared of the big scars that they're going to have.
• 42:07
  Then they got told to be sold rather into an upselling of a secondary surgery. This is where the
• 42:13
  forever customer comes in to play with this cosmetic procedure because these surgeons are like,
• 42:20
  would you like fries with that, a lift or a fat transfer? And then it becomes not a two-hour
• 42:24
  surgery, but potentially a six-hour surgery. And instead of a $14,000 surgery, it's now a $25,000
• 42:30
  surgery. But I went with the one surgeon that didn't talk to me like you're going to be saggy,
• 42:35
  you're a 50-year-old. A surgeon actually told me that. And I was like, how about just getting this
• 42:40
  out of my body and getting me well? But so, yes, women are really at odds with their integrity
• 42:47
  on why they did this. Then they look at the, and see, I get tongue tied because it's still such a,
• 42:55
  it's a hard subject to talk about. I'm still unpacking it, but for others as well.
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  For others that actually are hiding in online subculture, Facebook groups supporting each
• 43:07
  other, there's millions of women across the world dying to be well who can't afford the surgery.
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  And I'm telling you, there is a laundry list of symptoms like dry eyes, loss of libido,
• 43:17
  suicide, thoughts, anxiety, depression, inflammation. And the thing is, anytime you take a substance and
• 43:24
  you put it inside the body, and that can, that can be a fake hip that can be like dental implants.
• 43:32
  Dental implants. I mean, I just had amalgams removed out of my teeth. Like, literally, I had no idea
• 43:37
  that I had mercury amalgams from when I was like 14 years old. Like, anytime we put a foreign
• 43:43
  substance into our body, our bodies are intended. They're programmed to fight against it.
• 43:49
  You know, and that's because the way in which the body is designed to heal is through
• 43:52
  expulsion. So think about, you know, when we cough and sneeze, we're expelling tiny particles
• 43:59
  right through the air. When we've had like rotten food, it comes out one end or the other.
• 44:04
  You know, when we have a virus, we sweat and it comes out through the pores of the skin,
• 44:08
  rashes the same thing. So if you actually understand how the body works to heal,
• 44:12
  then you can work with the body. And so instead of putting cortisol and cream on top of the
• 44:17
  rash and pushing it back in, you know, you address the root cause and go, why am I getting the
• 44:20
  rash in the first place? Well, and the idea that I talk about skincare and it's like anything
• 44:24
  that's going on with your skin is just data about what's going on in the inside because skin care
• 44:28
  itself, like we try to do things to remove skin care symptom. And it's like, okay, you got acne.
• 44:32
  What's going on? Yeah. And it took me a long time because I actually had acne as an adult.
• 44:37
  But your skin's fantastic. Totally. And I can tell you the reason why. You've got no scarring.
• 44:42
  No, but it wasn't like bad pock like acne, but I can tell you what, go buy me a Hershey's bar
• 44:48
  down at the gift shop. And if I eat it, I will wake up tomorrow with acne. You've got parasites
• 44:54
  going on then. No, I think it's just my body's reaction to refined sugar to be honest with you.
• 45:00
  Like my body just hates it. So it's like, I just happen to know that if I eat sugar,
• 45:05
  it will show on my face. Right. And that's just your body so clean. So that's actually a really
• 45:10
  good response. My body, right. That's exactly right. It's not a bad response. And we see that symptom
• 45:15
  as the big bad wolf instead of going that symptom is the solution. That's the sign for us.
• 45:20
  Agreed. Yeah. That's exactly it. Like, like embrace that because the acne is data.
• 45:25
  Kind of like if you're, if you have pain, you talked about sciatic pain. Like you had
• 45:30
  sciatic pain. And it's like pain is data. Pain is the body's way of letting you know something's wrong.
• 45:36
  And if all we're doing is taking the ibuprofen to end the pain, we never solve what's wrong.
• 45:41
  Yes. And it's like, and I think the masking symptoms, yeah. Right. And to your point about the
• 45:45
  body's natural response to an invader is expulsion, agreed. Whether that's due defecation,
• 45:52
  whether that's through, through perspiration, whatever, like the body wants to get rid of the
• 45:57
  invader expulsion. And so with the breast implants, it's got nowhere to go.
• 46:00
  Nowhere. So that's why you get contracture. And then you get the body slowly starting to shut down.
• 46:06
  So the natural detoxification pathways don't work the way they're designed to anymore. So the gallbladder,
• 46:11
  the liver, the digestive system, you get SIBO, gut, small intestinal bowel, overgrowth,
• 46:16
  and everything just starts to shut down. So I experience this is why the thoughts of suicide
• 46:20
  creep in for all these breast implant illness patients, because their bodies just are slowly
• 46:25
  shutting down and you really are dying, which is why you want to die. So that's why it's really sad.
• 46:30
  And why for me, it's really important to continue on with this crusade and help women to join the dots,
• 46:34
  because after my surgery, I went on the today show and my inbox was just flooded with messages
• 46:40
  from women saying, you made me realize, because they're being what they call medical gas lighting,
• 46:45
  the doctors are saying, oh, it's just menopause, or it's something else, it's autoimmune,
• 46:51
  but we have got autoimmune disease on the rise. But the thing is, you think about you,
• 46:56
  you put something into the body that doesn't actually belong there, and eventually the body just
• 47:01
  gives in and just figures that it's normal. And it's kind of like, if a country was invaded by
• 47:06
  another country, it's like, everybody doesn't get their new passports tomorrow. But eventually,
• 47:12
  they just adapt to this foreign thing being normal. And as you're saying, if there's a foreign
• 47:17
  substance in your body and your immunity actually just stops fighting, because apparently foreign
• 47:23
  bodies are just normal in here. So the body is incredibly adaptive. It's just incredible and
• 47:29
  miraculous. But then it becomes a point where it cannot adapt any longer. That's when you start
• 47:34
  shutting down. That's why it's a ticking time bomb. And when it does shut down, you've got so
• 47:40
  much brain fog and you can't function that you can't even remember what's going on, who's telling
• 47:45
  and that's where you feel easily led and medically gas lit. And so the more information we have
• 47:51
  about this, the more we can help others and hopefully prevent others. This is a group of,
• 47:56
  you know, mastectomy women who are choosing to embrace their flat after they've read my book
• 48:01
  and preferring not to reconstruct the results. And I'll see this. We talk about conscious connection
• 48:07
  and you're clearly connecting with women in a cohesive way that you're developing a following,
• 48:14
  if you will, of women who want to hear your story, because you've made yourself vulnerable and
• 48:18
  I can quote Bernet Brown and, you know, the science of vulnerability and so on and so forth. But
• 48:23
  you've made yourself vulnerable, telling a story through shame truthfully. And like you said,
• 48:29
  like you said, you spent two years in cried rivers about why do I do this? But that's been your
• 48:34
  response to this. And the truth is is like you're made yourself vulnerable, which to people who
• 48:40
  could share your story, you became accessible. So one of the reasons why I did it was because of
• 48:47
  a trauma thing and I felt like having this cage of this product on top of my chest which covered
• 48:52
  my heart. To be honest with you made me feel more confident in an intimate scenario. So when I had
• 48:59
  to remove this shield, your heart was more exposed. Open. So that's why the rivers came because I
• 49:05
  really went from that little girl into that beautiful adult that I always wanted to be. But when
• 49:10
  women read that it triggers them and they have said to me that they realized that they were also
• 49:17
  in a traumatized situation or had trauma happen to them. And so it's kind of this new hashtag me
• 49:23
  to movement that's developing as they're having these epiphanies. So this is a beautiful evolution
• 49:28
  of women as well because they're becoming stronger but in a soft way and that's important as well.
• 49:34
  I love that. As long as we can help them to feel safe and loved, we're really just ripping off
• 49:39
  this band aid and letting them get ready to shed. Andy, where would women go to find to become
• 49:45
  part of your community? How would they get in contact with you? Yeah, I mean read the book and then
• 49:49
  anyone who does read the book, I would love to have a free initial, you know, coaching session
• 49:54
  to guide them through because they would probably really need that. And yeah, you can get the book
• 49:59
  on my website, AndyLoo.com, A-N-D-I-L-E-W. You spell your name, my sister's name is Andy, I told you
• 50:06
  and she spells it the exact same way. She's A-N-D-I. Yeah, yeah, you got to get it right. And then L-E-W
• 50:12
  or on Instagram, the same spelling with a Andy. L-E-W, you can slide into my DMs, I won't ghost you.
• 50:19
  And all of that information will be right in the show notes beneath this. So go look up AndyLoo,
• 50:23
  she's a champion for health and wellness particularly for women because your story is very relatable
• 50:28
  to a lot of women who are dealing with the consequences of a, especially in the breast augmentation world.
• 50:34
  I mean, I just want to highlight the fact that there are two new cancers coming out in that
• 50:38
  surrounding scar tissue. It's squamous cell carcinoma and anaplastic large cell lymphoma. It's
• 50:43
  crucial to get them out and the surrounding scar tissue. Get them sent off to the labs to be tested
• 50:47
  for these things. And I would recommend to women to demand that this type of stuff is being
• 50:51
  done in the proper testing because the medical community isn't as attuned to this type of stuff
• 50:55
  as you're seeing. Or they won't send them off because they either don't want the data to support
• 51:00
  that this is an issue or the liability of what we're actually putting in the implants.
• 51:06
  Yeah, so we've got to have a standard of care and making sure that we're preventing lawsuits.
• 51:10
  Guys, check out AndyLoo, she's become a great friend of mine and I hope she becomes a great
• 51:14
  friend of yours as well. And I'm excited to see where she goes. Thank you. Welcome.
• 51:19
  I'm so glad your visa got renewed with her country. Welcome to my country, Andy. We're so glad
• 51:23
  that you're here. You've got like the best speaking voice accent. I love Australia, not
• 51:29
  accent. I feel so loved and needed. Thank you. You are absolutely. So I'm so glad to see you around
• 51:33
  more and hope to see you soon. And I'll see you in a couple of weeks. I'll see you in a
• 51:36
  couple of weeks. Yeah, awesome. Thanks guys for tuning in to Performance Driven Living
• 51:40
  with the none other than AndyLoo.