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Mid-States, Ratification Meetings, and a new PMG · United We Scan

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  Episode 1 20 Oh, due to Mid State's last weekend, and those
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  of us that drove getting back, kind of late.
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  We didn't have an episode last week so well, go over Mid-States
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  we'll talk about some ratification meetings and Yeah,
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  the possibility of a new PMG. So, how is the last couple of
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  weeks been for you, James? oh well pretty good, you know, I
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  Ended up. Training a new sub and getting
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  that all squared away. and of course, then getting into
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  Mid-States a great Drive in Chicago, is a little backed up
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  as usual, not as good as going out to western states where I
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  just glue through Chicago. Springfield Illinois was
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  beautiful. Got to walk through downtown
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  area a few times, including for our rally and Seemed like a nice
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  hotel, we were staying at. They said they were going to be
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  remodeling it in a couple of months which is great for those
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  and Illinois that used that facility frequently.
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  And then it was just a normal week at the office for me.
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  I did pass up food cards at the beginning of the week and I left
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  a note for myself that if he doesn't want to do the food,
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  right? Let me manage and know to pick
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  up stuff or two, kinds of me, I'll come out and get it because
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  I believe that is a very important service that the
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  Postal Service provides in a way through the nalc and the rural
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  carrier Union does support it as well.
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  So I think, because I deliver to the very food bank that receives
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  our pickup from our office That is very important to me to
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  provide that service to them. So, other than that, um, looking
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  forward to our ratification here in Michigan next Sunday, with my
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  merola. In East.
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  Lansing, for those of you in Michigan, I will be there.
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  Anybody from out-of-state that can't make theirs, but could
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  make that one or more than welcome to come.
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  If you need any advice, ask Kristen or me of places to go in
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  East Lansing, we both know, it was very well.
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  But other than that, looking forward to another week of
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  working my route. So How about who we have next?
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  And be me because Bill is he running late due to family
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  dinner for Mother's Day? Oh, so yeah, it's I only worked.
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  Two days before. Yeah, because I took ended up
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  taking one day off. To go to my youngest daughter's
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  State band Festival. And we were gonna go for one
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  performance and end up staying for four.
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  We made a day out of it because Oscoda was also there for both
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  their middle school and Senior bands, so Ruby had to stay.
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  So we watched the Gaylord high school as well as Sophia's
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  eighth grade and then us go to as well.
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  So it's kind of a Bittersweet day for Ruby because she was in
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  band under both directors. So from when she started in
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  Gaylord and then let's go to And then went down to my parents and
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  hung out there and then headed down to Illinois Thursday.
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  And yeah, Mid-States. Midstates was good with the
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  exception of my car, getting broken into over the weekend
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  sometimes between Thursday night, Thursday, afternoon, and
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  Saturday night. When Ruby went down to the car.
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  Yeah, so I don't know that. It's stage wasn't too bad.
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  And then got back to work. I took Monday off and it had
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  been nothing but a Massive shitshow.
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  It worked this week. That's all I can say about it.
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  I guess Amazon didn't show up on Saturday, so Saturday's trickled
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  in on Mondays. Monday came well Tuesday, showed
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  up the day. I went back to work and I swear
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  that was Monday and Tuesday's Amazon.
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  Wednesday, our mail truck was three hours late so they sent us
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  out with just our Amazon in case your mail open, wake up back for
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  the next day. So Thursday was, of course, Two
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  days worth of male two days worth of post office packages.
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  Oh yeah. And a box holder on top of it.
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  Let's add insult injury. Friday was a normal male day and
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  Amazon from Hell yet again. So yeah, that wrap up and I
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  finally got my KDAY this past Saturday and I stayed at home
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  babysitting little man, so Ruby could run her out.
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  Yeah, that was my week in a nutshell.
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  Two weeks, I should say. So yeah.
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  It's been. It's been a week, I'm interested
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  to see what this week holds, not really.
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  But, you know, On that note, what did you think of Mid-States
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  James? Well, considering that I've been
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  to all the regional conferences this year, 95% of what was said
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  at this one. Was it almost exactly the same
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  as what was that at the other one.
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  Um, the Q&A was different. But I think that we should
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  actually listen to. Your perspective and a
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  first-timer perspective if we could, because I really would
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  love to hear the first time her perspective, going to Mid-State.
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  you know, as we are senior in doing that.
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  You know, we've been just several of them.
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  But I'd like to actually get your guys's opinion because
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  y'all have heard mine for the last four of them.
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  Well, let's go ahead and do our first timer.
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  And I want to hear the first time experience too because this
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  was like my sixth or this is like my sixth or seventh seventh
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  Mid State. So, Go ahead and give us a first
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  timers, insight to how your Mid-State experience was
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  pleased. How are we doing everybody?
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  Hopefully everybody's doing good.
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  Happy Mother's Day to all the lucky mothers out there.
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  We appreciate you and we love you all.
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  As for Midstates. First time ever going to
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  Mid-States It was a real eye-opener in my personal
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  opinion, what really made it? All Summer.
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  In my opinion, was just seeing all the new faces besides that,
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  I do at State Convention or local meetings.
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  But getting to sit down and talk to them, see their views and
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  oral pinion's, It, you know, kind of what James was saying,
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  the Q&A. I I could have sworn they were
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  going to read all the questions but you know, they have limited
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  time to do all that stuff. my question, particularly didn't
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  get answered in order to my buddies but you know, I don't
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  want to say this. But it out there, put it out
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  there. Well, I I don't remember what
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  the first question was. But I thought the way that it
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  was answered when the question was crumpled up and throwing out
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  and said that this was a bullshit question.
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  I I don't think that was a propriate, as, you know, there
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  was quite a few 30 or first timers there.
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  I think there was 32 33, maybe more.
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  If they I think there was 32 in the picture if I remember
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  correctly. Um, give me a second here.
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  All right, so I I guess the first timer could have asked
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  that question which I did not nor do I know who asked it, I
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  guess I was kind of expecting. ah, a more professional answer
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  from Don mass in specifically but, I also know that they were
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  able to personally review each individual card before answering
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  it. So my question is If it was a
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  dumb question, why would you even answer it at all?
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  A good thing about it, that I thought was the rally.
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  Seeing everybody coming out there getting together, seeing
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  all the horns, Hulk, everybody. Cheer, I personally really
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  thought that was a good time. And banquet.
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  What I remember it bankwood was all pretty interesting.
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  Did you review the the video of its I I did.
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  Unfortunately I did and I'm not volunteering ever again, but if
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  you do get an opportunity to get hypnotized please, by all means
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  do it. no, I'll just leave it at that, but You know, seeing a lot
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  of people even on the Discord here, you know, just getting to
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  sit down and talk to them having a drink or or whatever, you
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  know, just sitting in their room and discussing.
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  You know, certain topics. It was just awesome.
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  You know, seeing the flags that represent Mid-States coming in,
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  I really enjoyed that. That was pretty cool.
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  I did end up winning two different auctions.
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  There was a I think it was 100 anniversary a Mid-States, I
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  can't remember. And then some really old Old
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  National Magazine's. So overall, I really did enjoy.
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  Mid-States and the wife. We were just talking about it
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  today. Actually, she wants to go to
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  National Convention so we're gonna hold to see everybody
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  there, awesome. That would be awesome to see you
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  at National as well. Yeah, it's one of those things
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  that we appreciate that but like you said that, that responds.
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  On the stage. Could have turned some
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  first-timers in the last time. If that was their question.
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  Well, like I said you just don't know.
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  I mean, Me personally, I didn't put my name on it, I don't think
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  my buddy put his name on it. I don't know if anybody put
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  their name on it. Well, I'm sure if they would
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  have, they probably would have been called out. but, you know,
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  talking to the other national board members as well, you know,
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  it was it was good to see their perspective, it really opened my
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  eyes On certain topics that I'll keep private. even after
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  Midstate, you know, I I went to this tentative agreement Meeting
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  last night. It was very informative.
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  I do appreciate the representatives.
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  That was there, and taking the hour and a half.
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  After the meeting to just sit down and talk.
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  That's good to hear. And that is.
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  I do know. Saturday, after I was filed, my
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  police report from discovering that my car had been broken
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  into. And Ruby.
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  And I were heading back to the room from the parking garage
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  that, you know, there we did have a national officer standing
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  there with a group of about six people going over their
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  questions and certain issues that are pertaining to them and
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  recs and stuff. And, and just taking that extra
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  time and that was, you know, 11:00 at night.
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  So, I loved seeing that it was it was pretty awesome.
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  The rally. Oh yeah.
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  Go ahead been Oh, one thing all I do appreciate, you know, my
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  buddy. I was staying staying with.
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  I didn't get his consent to shout his name out, or anything
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  like that old as I would, but I had the privilege of staying
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  with him and his Hilton on in RV.
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  And I'm telling you, this thing is nice and immaculate.
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  Yeah, but we ended up not staying in the whole tail.
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  We ate and stayed at the Illinois State Fairgrounds and
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  you know, for what we paid oh my gosh, it was it was really,
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  really nice, 30 dollars a night with full hookups Yeah, yeah.
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  Well we're speaking of that rally.
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  We found. Some rural carriers.
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  That are going to make it. Major.
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  Pushes within this Union. We found people who are going to
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  stand up for this craft, we're willing to fight for this craft
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  or to be loud and vocal for this craft.
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  Didn't we? Yep.
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  Who was that Senator that showed up.
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  I think it was the one that had her office that was that we
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  walked past. Yeah.
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  And I also agree that it the national board fell, but most of
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  the national board felt more approachable. this year at these
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  conferences than any years past I agree and in many ways.
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  And you know it the rally Israeli wrapped up and we were
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  getting ready to walk out. You know, president Mastin saw
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  that little man had a nrlca t-shirt on that.
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  He was swimming in but, you know, he took the time and did a
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  photo with him and I actually walked back with Don and we had
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  decent conversation back to the hotel.
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  I mean, it was, it was nice, it was nice to hear his perspective
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  on things. It was You know, some good
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  information, just Converse and have a leisurely chat while
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  you're walking back the few blocks to the hotel. yeah, talk
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  with them on an even level, not in a Oh, what's the terminal
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  here? Not a untouchable.
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  Way, you know where you can actually level the level with
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  each other carrier to carry your kind of talk.
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  Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  You know, that's what I really enjoy about, you know,
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  Mid-States. And I mean we had but 200 and
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  270 people in attendance. I mean that's awesome.
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  It was woohoo. Michigan got to take the
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  traveling trophy back home. Midstates conference has a thing
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  every year. So the host state Because it
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  could we go amongst an alphabetical order amongst the
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  states this year. It was co-hosted by Indiana
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  Illinois. Because they got skipped over
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  during covid, and we happen to have a year open that didn't
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  have a contract set yet. So we let them slip in after
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  Michigan. So, What it is, is this trophy
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  that gets passed at each Mid-State conference?
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  The hosting State obviously is out of the run for it because
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  they're hosting. But every, any state that brings
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  the most people in attendance Gets the traveling trophy, well
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  Michigan's to keep it except for when they're hosting it.
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  And so since we hosted at last year, we we got it back this
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  year by having the most people in attendance.
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  So It's just kind of fun. Little competition, camaraderie
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  amongst the 14 States. I will also say, you know, a lot
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  of us went out to eat with each other, you know, different
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  periods nights. Make sure you read the menu,
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  make sure you know what you're buying very, very lucky.
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  You depended on the graciousness of those around you, with that
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  order. Yeah yeah apparently six pieces
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  of shrimp cost 29.99 and for whoever bought that meal which
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  was not me. Thank you very much.
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  I'm sorry. Um Oh my goodness.
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  I was looking at that going to that all you're eating.
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  In the four ounces of broccoli too, don't forget that.
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  Yeah, the six pieces of shrimp and maybe five or six pieces of
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  broccoli, right? Yep.
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  Yep. Yep, yep.
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  It was a very interesting. But that was not at the hotel
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  restaurant that was at one of the entire restaurant down the
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  street, from the hotel. Just so we're clear.
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  We're not we're not putting it on the hotel restaurant.
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  Correct. But you guys have anything you
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  would you thought was, The best thing they did and the worst
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  thing that they did in these conferences.
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  Let's go with that. Well, given that we had a couple
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  speakers that were slated to be there, but could not I think
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  Kirby stepped up and did the steward presentation pretty
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  good. And then moving the speakers
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  around from the afternoon to the morning to fill out where
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  Management's guest was not present for at Mid-States this
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  year. No.
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  I think they handled the schedule changes pretty good.
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  I'll give them that and your negative for the You know, I
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  think they could have done a better with the Q&A questions.
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  That's, that's really it. Yeah.
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  Overall yeah. Overall, you know, besides that
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  for the Q&A I can't think much of a negativity at all.
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  You know, I thought we were treated pretty.
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  I thought Retreat to not, not pretty but very kindly from the
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  hotel staff. I appreciate them.
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  Yeah, just like Christian said, you know, filling in the gaps
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  where unfortunately people didn't make it would Probably be
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  the best. Actually, you know what?
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  The best part about it was just getting to meet and talk to
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  people. That was that that's what I'm
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  gonna say. I can agree with both of you on
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  that. and I think that, Even. Even though I'm not gonna go on
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  the Q&A part, I'm going to say that I wish the Q&A part was
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  just a little bit longer in time frame.
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  It gave a little more time for the questions.
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  And then put a break right after that, that way.
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  If they got done early, we can add a longer break, you know,
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  kind of thing. But a little bit more time for
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  the Q&A with the size of the room, if every person has
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  submitted a question, You know, they want they all come there,
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  they come there for those answers.
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  And what the people in. Charge of these events good to
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  recognize is the need for those questions to be answered.
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  Whether or not the person answering them calls him a
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  bullshit question or not. The question and answer part.
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  They should take the time to answer all the questions every
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  other conference that I went to this year, they answered pretty
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  much every question that was put up, even when they said they
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  weren't going to answer the questions of certain
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  individuals. But they answered almost every
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  question. That was given to them at every
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  other conference except this one.
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  Who was the best speaker? Is a question in the chat.
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  So who do you guys think was the best speaker?
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  I don't know. That's a hard one because I've
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  seen them all speaks. More than one.
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  So I probably say John Adams, I love you.
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  I I just think I'm gonna go with Kirby Ricketts, but that's
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  mainly because I personally talked to him off on the side as
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  well. And I'm gonna say, John Mark.
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  Mm-hmm. He has fun doing that.
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  You can tell yes. Bill, finally, joining us.
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  Know, the new grandfather to be as my son and daughter-in-law
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  have announced their eighth week pregnancy.
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  Well congratulations. Thank you.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  I just said, I don't want a gender reveal because then Carol
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  will be out there, buying all the little girly stuff.
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  She can possibly get her hands on it.
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  It'll be the first granddaughter and she will get spoiled to
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  Hell. Hmm.
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  Yeah, my my family lineage is we produce men child manly
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  children. But in bills break that.
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  It's my son William. And my son, William informed.
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  His sister while I was at Mid-State that his soon to be
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  baby is a boy What can I say? I mean, you know, Yeah.
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  The oldest, the oldest boy in my family.
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  Produced one. Son.
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  Two daughters. You know, of my myself, I got
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  three boys. My my sister had a daughter.
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  My other sister had a son, and my other brother had.
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  Or sons and three daughters. Wow. so, It's a family thing.
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  Thank you, dear. Lovely wife.
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  Just delivered me my coffee. Oh, How is your past couple
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  weeks been for you, Bill? Oh, yeah.
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  Well You know with the wife in like go from her job.
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  I don't think I'm gonna stay in retirement if she's staying
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  home. To tell you, I love my wife, I
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  don't love her 24 hours a day. It's, you know, I mean, yeah,
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  she's she's contacted the lawyers, she's filed for EEOC,
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  which won't be hurting until September.
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  Uh, you know, since age, discrimination wasn't part of
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  the conversation of her being released from work that they
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  shows have a strong case there. the fact that she didn't get a
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  severance package that, you know, up near because that can
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  be a filed against others, have gotten Severance packages but I
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  love her, but, you know, Retirement was supposed to be
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  downtime for me. It is not downtime.
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  Okay, let me tell you. I told her.
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  I told her I said yeah I'm gonna go look for a job and she goes
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  why? Yeah, you don't need the money.
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  I said I know, And I left it at that.
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  I was I wasn't gonna say it was the kids away from you but Oh
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  Lord. Hmm.
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  And then my, my middle son came up today and took my car because
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  his his car blue and engine And he's 8,000 dollars, the, you
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  know, the 60 engine on there and, you know, they're working
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  with taking the money out of the loan for it and refinance, the
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  car, and being alone in the car. He's gonna be able to make a
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  payment that's like 48 Hours more than just the old car
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  payment. So that's okay.
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  But he needed a car. So what did my wife do?
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  Oh well you can use your dad's car.
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  You know, this is why I didn't join the, the standard military
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  service. I don't volunteer for things
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  like that. My commanding officer
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  volunteered me. Volunteered.
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  Yes. Volatile So I told my son, I
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  said Remember the rules back in the day when you were driving.
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  Yes. If I have an accident, And the
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  car still drives. Keep going.
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  The cars not drivable, start walking, but don't ever come
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  back. I said, okay, oh, great advice
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  my bill May This day, I still have his loan papers but I
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  bought him his first car. If you miss a payment it's 50
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  dollars. If you miss a second payment,
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  it's a hundred dollars. If you missed a third payment,
• 28:44
  it's a testicle. It's some people work said I was
• 28:49
  full of shit. I would never do.
• 28:50
  I brought the signed contract in And they're looking like what
• 28:55
  the hell. He's I guess he really wanted
• 28:59
  that car. He damn straight.
• 29:00
  He did. And he wasn't gonna violate
• 29:03
  those terms. For more than two months, we
• 29:08
  know. Don't tell me, I don't know how
• 29:14
  to negotiate. Never said, you didn't.
• 29:20
  Yeah. 800 volts did. All right, a little bit more
• 29:29
  ratification meetings. What you guys is opinion of the
• 29:33
  zoom meeting That was the biggest waste of 30 minutes I
• 29:40
  ever took. I I have to agree with many that
• 29:46
  said, it should have just been a link on the website Yeah.
• 29:53
  Yep, that was brought up in ours as well.
• 29:58
  That's why I go to the Min person.
• 30:01
  Yes, I will be going next week to my in-person one.
• 30:05
  Yep, like somebody just in the chat, they did some work around
• 30:08
  BS with that. He I don't work.
• 30:12
  I don't remember the previous ta being like that at all.
• 30:15
  No, no. The zoom meetings we had for
• 30:18
  that were personal and you could ask questions.
• 30:24
  And that's what they should have done with this one as well.
• 30:27
  But I think that because they're trying to ramrod it through and
• 30:31
  shove it down our throats that they're trying to eliminate a
• 30:36
  lot of the dispelling questions and things like that.
• 30:45
  Well, personally in regards to this contractor tentative
• 30:48
  agreement. Yeah, a lot of people were for
• 30:52
  saying, yeah, you're not gonna get anything better, some people
• 30:54
  recent it saying we should go for more.
• 30:57
  And you know, the the arbitration process is a, what
• 31:01
  do you say, James and 80/20 proper position?
• 31:05
  you know, in early and anything more, you know, he always starts
• 31:09
  out at 50 5 0, Basically had it force-fed down their throat.
• 31:23
  In a 48, our decision, a the arbitrator.
• 31:28
  I think that we will get the same here, and That if you vote
• 31:33
  for the contract, okay? And say, well, we didn't lose
• 31:36
  anything. The quote somebody But did we
• 31:40
  really gain that much? And the answer is no.
• 31:45
  So by voting no you're not saying, you know, you don't want
• 31:50
  this agreement, you're saying no, our board didn't represent
• 31:55
  our case in the strong enough position, get us better.
• 32:00
  You're letting the board know that you're disappointed in
• 32:02
  their efforts. And you know, for them to say,
• 32:06
  well this is what the city got and that's supposed to make me
• 32:09
  feel better. Actually, the city got a little
• 32:13
  more than we did. I tried to explain the two week,
• 32:17
  cut off on each, you know. Step on table 2.
• 32:21
  Coming out the 30 weeks which is a little more than half a year.
• 32:24
  So you're still have to put in almost two and a half more
• 32:27
  years. You get to the top of the table.
• 32:30
  There's no the top of the table too as far as steps are
• 32:34
  concerned over table one. A half years.
• 32:40
  And I think somebody who worked it out to be about approximately
• 32:43
  164,000, dollars difference? 130.
• 32:49
  Oh the figure I saw was 164 so I'm quoting 164.
• 32:56
  Yeah, I did. I did and That could actually be
• 33:00
  right because of how fast much faster table.
• 33:03
  One. Gets up the steps after the
• 33:06
  initially BNC. Yes.
• 33:08
  So it could be higher. But I did the 130 based on the
• 33:10
  52 weeks for ours and the Growing. doing the same with the
• 33:18
  table once a little over 130,000, so $164 found about
• 33:23
  right too but either way I did the calculation. and from 1990,
• 33:30
  Which is the year done. Mastering the Postal Service.
• 33:34
  According to his hero page of his profile 1990 is when he
• 33:40
  joined as an RCA. From 1990 to.
• 33:43
  Now the cost of living went up to 230 to 240%.
• 33:49
  Depending on what you're buying. In the same time frame.
• 33:54
  From the table, the initial table 1.
• 33:58
  Regular carrier. Depth one, 40 hours. to today's
• 34:04
  table a 40 hours. That the table one. 158%
• 34:12
  increase. Tabled two.
• 34:16
  Starting at that. Step one table, one.
• 34:18
  Because I was the only table for regular carriers back then to
• 34:22
  table Two, Step One is 109% increased.
• 34:29
  So that compared to the 230 to 240, is what we should be really
• 34:33
  looking at. Now, there are humans out there
• 34:37
  from veteran carriers that when they came on the scene.
• 34:41
  It used to be just table and step one and then they added a b
• 34:46
  and c. So, now table two has got what
• 34:50
  they had gotten when they joined in.
• 34:52
  But really we should be focusing on lifting everybody up.
• 34:57
  To the higher standard including table one carriers.
• 35:01
  Now, Because they are still. 80% behind the cost of living.
• 35:10
  From 1990 to now. Everybody should go up.
• 35:15
  And we all should be equal in the years of service that we
• 35:19
  provided to this organization. Okay.
• 35:26
  So let me, let me throw this out here, okay?
• 35:31
  Then we have a solid timetable on the PA being offered to us.
• 35:40
  as the national board come out and say when they're gonna, Send
• 35:43
  it out to us for to vote on it. He said amount yesterday, right?
• 35:51
  Yeah. even though all the meetings aren't, Yes.
• 35:56
  And they don't they don't expect them to be back in the mailbox
• 35:59
  until June 13th at noon Eastern Time.
• 36:03
  Oh let's see. That's that's right in the
• 36:07
  middle of the State Convention starting Or ending actually
• 36:12
  actually ending because they have to be done before the end
• 36:15
  of June. So, let's see.
• 36:19
  That would give them ratification until approximately
• 36:21
  the middle July. At the latest.
• 36:26
  And that means by time we come to the National Convention Will
• 36:31
  either have a contract or be an arbitration.
• 36:35
  Mm-hmm. I don't know.
• 36:39
  But you know, if I worked at the fish market, I would say that's
• 36:45
  the most fishy to me. Just the time table, you know?
• 36:54
  I guess regardless the the main thing, regardless of what you
• 36:58
  vote for or against, right, I personally I don't care what you
• 37:03
  vote for as long as you vote because when only what 20,000
• 37:08
  plus people, What was it last year?
• 37:11
  20,000 plus people. I I don't remember the exact
• 37:15
  figure when sold little. Yeah.
• 37:18
  When so little the membership vote I mean Please, as soon as
• 37:24
  he get that ballot Market, whatever you want to and get it
• 37:27
  back in the mail. Yeah.
• 37:31
  That's I mean that's the most simple form of using your voice.
• 37:38
  Hey, let's hit the mail on Friday.
• 37:40
  The 9th. So They should be coming anytime
• 37:44
  to a mailbox near you. Make sure you fill them out
• 37:48
  properly, that includes the return address in your state.
• 37:53
  Your associated with All that stuff needs to be filled out
• 37:57
  accordingly. So And yet, I I've seen the
• 38:03
  comments on social media. Well, they're having these ta
• 38:08
  meetings and six people were showing up or people are showing
• 38:13
  up. Yeah?
• 38:14
  One, I saw where it was the the State Board.
• 38:18
  And an NSS person. I'm like, what?
• 38:23
  This is the response. You're getting to people who
• 38:27
  were concerned about what their contract is going to be in the
• 38:29
  future. I'm just, well, under I think
• 38:39
  Ruby was even talking about taking.
• 38:43
  Send it next Sunday off from her other job too.
• 38:46
  To go to the in-person with me. I don't know if she is or not,
• 38:50
  but hopefully. yeah, you know, it's Either way, I'm going.
• 39:01
  But other than that, What else was in the news James?
• 39:07
  well, it looks like they've Chosen a new Postmaster,
• 39:12
  General. and, from what I've gathered other than the neutral
• 39:22
  the message from president Mastin, all the other unions are
• 39:28
  against this conflict of interest.
• 39:33
  Being appointed to Postmaster General.
• 39:35
  The reason I say conflict of interest is his current task is
• 39:40
  being on the board of directors for FedEx.
• 39:45
  Previously, he held positions within Waste Management.
• 39:52
  And another recycling company on top of that.
• 39:55
  And he's also a lawyer. The.
• 40:04
  He was appointed in the same manner that the joy was in that
• 40:09
  he was a donor to the presidential campaign. and,
• 40:16
  unfortunately, we currently have a don't have a full Board of
• 40:21
  Governors. so, just the people that are around there right now,
• 40:25
  including Doug. Tolino.
• 40:28
  Current acting Postmaster General.
• 40:31
  Decided to appoint this gentleman, two.
• 40:35
  Postmaster General before he even gets his background, checks
• 40:39
  done. As required and I wonder if
• 40:42
  they'll also be the conflict of interest, if they'll force him
• 40:46
  to resign, from the board of directors of FedEx before he
• 40:49
  takes the position. So I want to get your guys's
• 40:54
  opinion. Firstly on him before I go into
• 40:57
  how I feel about. Kristen, you must start.
• 41:02
  I personally don't have an opinion as of right now.
• 41:05
  As I I haven't researched him at all on my own time, so therefore
• 41:11
  I don't have an opinion. Presently.
• 41:16
  Same here. Bill.
• 41:20
  Let it Fly Boy. Let it Fly.
• 41:24
  Okay? Like you said without him, being
• 41:28
  currently vetted for the position, how are you giving him
• 41:32
  a position? All right.
• 41:35
  The fact of the matter that he serves on the board of one of
• 41:38
  our competitors. Because remember, we're no
• 41:41
  longer a male service, we're a package delivery service. so, it
• 41:45
  bodes well that, you know, In his package, delivery service
• 41:51
  experience. That, you know, he might be able
• 41:54
  to help the post office in some ways.
• 41:57
  The problem of his is that you're gonna take a company,
• 42:01
  like FedEx, Which basically contracts most of their work
• 42:06
  out. And you're going to try to apply
• 42:10
  that. The unionized crafts, multiple
• 42:15
  craps. It's just doesn't sound like a
• 42:18
  good recipe for a cake, okay. Now, I had to laugh because when
• 42:24
  I saw that he also ran Waste Management.
• 42:28
  I'm sitting there going Oh, hell.
• 42:31
  He's gonna have a field day with postal management because most
• 42:35
  of them are a waste. but the problem of it is that, you know,
• 42:40
  when you have people come in like this, you know, from the
• 42:42
  outside, they don't do any changes drastic changes because
• 42:46
  they want to get a feel for the land, you know, get a sense of
• 42:50
  the layout of the management structure.
• 42:54
  By time, you get down to our level, the local postmaster,
• 42:58
  district managers supervised and all that. you know, he'll
• 43:02
  probably be out of be out of a term all so because it'll take
• 43:06
  him years to filter through all this stuff and figure out why
• 43:10
  the hell we're having problems with hiring.
• 43:13
  Attention training, you know, as well as you know, the fact that
• 43:18
  we have so many grievances well being unionized as we are and I
• 43:23
  not sure waste management was a union company somebody can you
• 43:28
  know, check that out real quick. But the fact that matter is that
• 43:34
  He's going to be dealing with the situation.
• 43:35
  He's unfamiliar with, in regards to dealing with the unions and
• 43:39
  the expense, the cost per se of dealing with unions through the
• 43:44
  grievance process. I don't care what anybody says
• 43:47
  about you know what's going private.
• 43:49
  You know, privatizing the post office.
• 43:52
  You can't. reasonably say that that's a possibility because of
• 43:58
  the fact that there's so many Oops, you have to jump through
• 44:02
  to do that and there's not enough members in Congress that
• 44:06
  was supported the, you know, from the true truly rule states.
• 44:11
  And rule states includes States like Texas.
• 44:15
  Michigan, Iowa. Can't this you know, all the
• 44:18
  Central States And a lot of the other states and Georgia,
• 44:22
  Florida, South Carolina, and North Carolina, all these
• 44:25
  populated states that are not gonna go for Private Edition.
• 44:30
  But I would not put past this individual and to segregating
• 44:35
  the male and the parcel business. as a Avenue.
• 44:43
  Of savings. And in savings that, you know,
• 44:46
  you have dedicated male vehicles and dedicated a parcel vehicles.
• 44:52
  till you know, and and I just saw another load of NG and New
• 44:57
  generation and gdvs delivered. And I'm just sitting there and
• 45:01
  I'm laughing. It's like I can't wait to see
• 45:03
  the repairs on these trucks because of the height. and the
• 45:07
  people's unfamiliarity and going up and down driveways or just
• 45:10
  under low-lying branches, and everything else and and drying
• 45:14
  this service boxes I don't see the feasibility in this and
• 45:19
  there's nobody else out there with the vehicle that that
• 45:22
  designed to really, you know, fit our needs But this man is
• 45:26
  stepping into a shit. Load of trouble.
• 45:32
  And yes, we are service. We're not designed to make a
• 45:34
  profit. But we still have to operate on
• 45:37
  the standard business. Principals in regards to expense
• 45:42
  costs. Income Revenue, you know,
• 45:46
  everything else, credits, and debits it all has to make hours
• 45:51
  and cents. and I don't know that this guy's going to be able to
• 45:54
  do that without A little bore, a little more, or deeper,
• 46:00
  understanding of unionized federal employees.
• 46:11
  All right, so I did take the time to research him and what
• 46:16
  he's done in the past and where he's come from and things like
• 46:18
  that, you know, he didn't start out as a CEO, he didn't start
• 46:22
  out running. Boards or anything like that he
• 46:26
  started out just as a corporate lawyer. and worked his way up
• 46:31
  and waste management dealing with the crash Mafia.
• 46:37
  In a lot of places. So, a lot of places, the trash
• 46:40
  was ran by basically a mafia that controlled Regions of trash
• 46:46
  hauling. And a lot of them got indicted
• 46:50
  on that. He did not, he avoided that Then
• 46:55
  he moved on to a recycling company from there, and then got
• 47:00
  a pointed to the board of FedEx as well as tayco engineering.
• 47:10
  um, but the truth is FedEx, doesn't do what we do.
• 47:15
  UPS doesn't do what we do. Amazon doesn't do what we do and
• 47:21
  waste management. Definitely does not do what we
• 47:23
  do. Although we deal with trash from
• 47:26
  management all the time. You know, in his career with
• 47:32
  Waste Management. This is the scariest part of
• 47:36
  this gentleman. As CEO.
• 47:40
  He allowed. Gabs to work, well, his waist
• 47:45
  management employees Were Striking for a contract.
• 47:50
  On top of that. In another striking situation,
• 47:53
  he allowed scabs again, and then Fired the union employees.
• 48:02
  In lieu of using the scabs, to do the job of the Union
• 48:05
  employees were doing. This man is going to be.
• 48:12
  Difficult to work with from a union aspect.
• 48:17
  But not impossible. Because the fact is we do
• 48:22
  something. No one else does.
• 48:25
  Because no one can do it better than the rural craft.
• 48:30
  Even contract routes. There are contract carriers that
• 48:36
  are quitting because they can no longer afford to work for the
• 48:39
  Postal Service. Guess where the postal service
• 48:42
  has to put those routes right back into the Worldcraft.
• 48:47
  If they cannot find a contract carrier to do it for cheaper
• 48:50
  than the Worldcraft. They have to give it back to the
• 48:53
  world craft. so, he also looked for ways to save minutes.
• 49:02
  On employees. That includes the things being
• 49:08
  used against us now. Stationary events.
• 49:12
  Dulles for City carriers, Rex inputs for us?
• 49:19
  He's gonna find the minister to save on the back, so the
• 49:22
  employees. Now, on the flip side of that
• 49:26
  because he always looks for these costs Savings in
• 49:29
  employees. That means no one in this
• 49:33
  organization is safe, whether they are craft members or
• 49:38
  management. Because he also has a history of
• 49:44
  removing management as well. Trying to lean out the company
• 49:51
  to save money. So, Whether or not we can
• 49:57
  convince him that the Worldcraft needs to be paid more as a moot
• 50:00
  point. Because when we don't have
• 50:02
  contract carriers, I want to run these are out.
• 50:05
  And we aren't getting people to be hired in here.
• 50:07
  He definitely can't turn around and bring in scab labor to
• 50:12
  replace us. He's going to have to work with
• 50:15
  us, whether he likes it or not. Even with the Wells Fargo
• 50:21
  report, which literally was the dumbest piece of paper I've ever
• 50:26
  written I've ever read. Talking about how we can sell
• 50:31
  off to FedEx and UPS FedEx and UPS already have their systems
• 50:35
  all leaned out the way they want them to.
• 50:37
  They don't want to pick up the rural craft.
• 50:41
  It's unprofitable to them. That's why we deliver their
• 50:44
  stuff in rural area. so, If he thinks he's going to try and
• 50:49
  privatize the Postal Service, he's going to have a very
• 50:51
  difficult time doing it especially for the value that
• 50:55
  the Worldcraft brings to The Postal Service.
• 50:58
  But that's just my opinion and I think that as long as we put
• 51:01
  pressure on him where we show him the value we bring we don't
• 51:07
  just stand there and protest like whiny kids.
• 51:10
  We actually show value for the rural craft.
• 51:13
  We have a possibility of making changes with this man but unless
• 51:19
  something else changes we're going to have to work with with
• 51:22
  him. To get through it.
• 51:26
  Now, the only stipulation that I'll point out there, James that
• 51:30
  this gentleman has served on board.
• 51:35
  Is not served in the industry per se.
• 51:38
  Okay, he hasn't worked his way up through waste management or
• 51:44
  FedEx. He's, you know.
• 51:48
  He's a paper pusher. Okay, that's exactly what he is.
• 51:51
  And that is a dangerous position.
• 51:56
  To be in control of the post office.
• 51:59
  Because he's going to be looking at the numbers.
• 52:01
  Just like these idiots in District do every day for
• 52:04
  stationary events. Miss scans, you know, all the
• 52:09
  little, you know, bulshit items they can possibly, you know,
• 52:12
  wean against us. I've got a guy on EP who took
• 52:17
  over my route because he wore an earbud.
• 52:23
  To work. EP for earbud.
• 52:29
  Now, I don't know about anybody else, but when I get up in the
• 52:32
  morning, I go down stairs. I go to the coffee pot, pick up
• 52:36
  the pot, that port and the cup, I take it into the kitchen.
• 52:40
  When my sugar and creamer is a mixing together, I put the cap
• 52:44
  on, go outside with my phone and check all my messages and phone
• 52:48
  calls and stuff. It up you, my shower, get
• 52:53
  dressed and everything comes down stairs.
• 52:55
  I pulled my Bluetooth in my ear, my phone on my pocket and I go
• 52:58
  out the door. Doing that for, you know, years.
• 53:03
  Just like, you know, earbuds people who have been doing it
• 53:06
  for years, it's second nature to them.
• 53:09
  You're going to eat piece somebody with 16 years of
• 53:12
  carrying experience over an earbud.
• 53:19
  Why? Well, because okay, we can hire
• 53:22
  somebody to come in there cheaper and do the job because
• 53:25
  he's a table one person. the problems that is that you can't
• 53:31
  hire anybody right now. Westchester has 18 routes to
• 53:38
  which are vacant as of February 27th, have not been posted and
• 53:43
  the local area Steward has not filed a grievance yet. somebody
• 53:49
  questioned the fact that well there were up for adjustments
• 53:53
  right now it doesn't matter. The route is still going to
• 53:56
  remain intact no matter what it's going to be either an
• 54:01
  overburden route if you don't get it done or it'll be a 43k.
• 54:04
  If you do get it done, but the route will still be there.
• 54:07
  Therefore the posting should still be put into effect because
• 54:12
  management, did not ask for an extension on posting it.
• 54:17
  That's another grievable offense.
• 54:22
  But you can hire people right now, Westchester down to two
• 54:26
  subs on two, hold downs. And one PTF for 18 routes, And
• 54:33
  everybody's being forced in to do.
• 54:38
  They're drop days except for the former ADR asking piece of shit.
• 54:43
  Who's now facilitating route adjustments.
• 54:53
  Are you gonna get these imaginary people from where you
• 54:56
  going to get these imaginary vehicles from because they're
• 54:58
  short of vehicles? And where are you going to hire
• 55:01
  these imaginary people who are going to come in and buy a p o
• 55:04
  v? You know, if they don't have a
• 55:07
  mom like Kristen going out there, helping them find the
• 55:09
  vehicle and the conversion kits and a mechanic that willing to
• 55:13
  help you out, get it done. Because not everybody has a
• 55:16
  Christian in their back pocket to help him out.
• 55:21
  Know the carrier did not get an l o w.
• 55:24
  They were EP. It litter warning is not
• 55:31
  required when you EP somebody. The things that they're eating
• 55:38
  out when doing these. Trout.
• 55:43
  Inspection bulshit. Christian, it was so bad.
• 55:49
  That. One of the supervisors.
• 55:53
  Paul carrier and said, I don't have this carrier's number.
• 55:57
  Can you call him and tell him they're looking for him?
• 56:03
  So well, how do you know? Well, they called me and asked
• 56:05
  for his location. He called the supervisor looking
• 56:08
  for this, carry his location. before the other carrier could
• 56:13
  warn him, they got their I'm not saying that's intentional, but
• 56:21
  it sounds like it's intentional. Now and and the human aspect on
• 56:27
  it, here's a guy with three kids one's going to college and next
• 56:31
  year better put that on hold. Yeah, I just had my right along
• 56:37
  my year, Annual Ride, Along with the supervisor, and it was a
• 56:42
  latest day of the week, and, of course, got done quickly.
• 56:46
  You know, didn't have much male didn't have much packages.
• 56:49
  And, of course, the supervisor sitting back there, bored out of
• 56:51
  her. Mind passing up packages from
• 56:53
  the back for me. Which wasn't an accurate
• 56:56
  reflection of reloading time that it takes me to do things.
• 57:00
  but, I pass a flying colors and of course, get back to the
• 57:04
  office and When the next day came I said hey can I get my
• 57:09
  4584 on that one now? forgot to print it out for me,
• 57:13
  like, she's supposed to So got my 4584.
• 57:17
  I've got the other sticks that I've had with them.
• 57:20
  Following me around in their own cars.
• 57:23
  You know, so, but it shouldn't be like this.
• 57:26
  We shouldn't be constantly monitored and micro-managed.
• 57:31
  I can understand the job requirement to do safety
• 57:33
  observations. I can understand doing the
• 57:36
  Annual Ride Along. But they are doing so many of
• 57:40
  them. My question is, is It actually
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  saving the post office money doing.
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  No. Games I I was driving on Lenape
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  Road, delivering one day. And I saw this red Ford Taurus
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  coming up behind me. And I recognized the New York
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  plates because he had the old golden blue New York plates on
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  there. I knew that knew the supervisor.
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  It was driving it. I'm driving along, you know,
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  pretty busy road. Got my four ways on.
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  And I, you know, go up and I service three boxes in the row.
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  They go past me, turn right on Forest Drive, which I have to
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  turn on to as I approached Forest Drive to put my turn
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  signal on. Come up when I pull up behind
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  me, here's the postmaster, getting out of the vehicle.
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  And you know, of course I curb my wheels, turn the vehicle off,
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  put the brake on and I said, what's up?
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  He didn't use your turn signal to reenter reentry the traffic
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  lane there. I said, oh, first of all, I was
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  completely off the road. That says, second of all, you
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  may need to turn on Forest Road before I left the boxes.
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  So you couldn't have possibly seen whether I did or didn't,
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  there was no traffic coming up and forth since you couldn't see
• 59:05
  it, I did use my turn signal. But that was the kind of shit
• 59:12
  that they would harass you with. Unfortunately, you know, in in
• 59:16
  dealing with somebody like me, I'm armed to the teeth before
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  you even get out of the damn car.
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  Oh, you know, Skip back into car and go back to the office where
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  you belong. All right, anything else?
• 59:33
  I'm gonna raise her space Speed Racer.
• 59:35
  Yes, you're right, because I have a six-year Steward to calls
• 59:39
  me up at least once a week. All right, any anything else.
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  Guys for tonight. Or are we good?
• 59:49
  Wine this down? I'm good.
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  I'm good. All right, you're final word,
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  Sir James. You know, we're in the middle of
• 1:00:01
  these ratification meetings. And always take everything you
• 1:00:06
  hear with a green assault. Whether it comes from the
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  national board. or from us or from your buddy case, mate next
• 1:00:14
  to you, Take everything with a grain of salt.
• 1:00:19
  Do your own research. And see if it's worth it for
• 1:00:23
  you. I know that calculating out the
• 1:00:26
  wage increases that I'm going to get with this initial agreement
• 1:00:30
  with my self-only health insurance.
• 1:00:36
  I'm still going to be four dollars Less in my paycheck.
• 1:00:42
  After the tentative agreement is path, due to the increase
• 1:00:47
  Healthcare cost between last year and this year.
• 1:00:52
  That's a big no starter for me. but, Some people may see.
• 1:00:58
  Oh, we're going to get back paid to help cover that up and ask
• 1:01:01
  good for them. But do your own research and the
• 1:01:06
  only thing I asked you to do. Is vote on it.
• 1:01:12
  I don't care if you vote Yes or vote.
• 1:01:15
  No. All I care about is that you use
• 1:01:18
  your voice and you vote. Now, I'm planning on going into
• 1:01:23
  my office and letting them know that For their.
• 1:01:27
  National delegate palette, and for their gratification ballot,
• 1:01:34
  I will personally put this postage on their envelope for
• 1:01:37
  them. To mail it back.
• 1:01:40
  Because I believe. That vote matters.
• 1:01:45
  Every single person. Deserves to vote that can vote.
• 1:01:53
  This is a turning point for our Union.
• 1:01:56
  Where it's time for us to step up.
• 1:01:59
  Speak out. And show everybody.
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  We're All in This Together. Bill.
• 1:02:07
  Well, James. Hit a chord there.
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  In regards the losing money, despite the increase is because
• 1:02:16
  of the cost of the health insurance.
• 1:02:19
  And you got to remember, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:02:21
  This is just the cost of the premium.
• 1:02:23
  This is not the cost of the deductibles.
• 1:02:25
  This is not the reduction in coverage services.
• 1:02:28
  This is not the the total mouth for your family deductible for
• 1:02:33
  the year. As well as the other increases
• 1:02:36
  for, you know, the cost of living. and if you're in a POV
• 1:02:41
  and you have a foreign POV right now, I'll let you write know
• 1:02:47
  right now. My son's getting an engine
• 1:02:49
  replacing. The Subaru.
• 1:02:50
  Subaru WRX, it's 8500, it was 6,800.
• 1:02:57
  Two months ago. But now the tariffs are going
• 1:03:01
  into effect, it's 8,500. So the four dollars is miniscule
• 1:03:07
  in what you're actually losing. You have to make up your own
• 1:03:12
  decisions and James is right. I don't care if you vote.
• 1:03:15
  Yes, I don't care if you vote for.
• 1:03:16
  No, I need you to vote exercise, your right to vote.
• 1:03:21
  This is just like an election for a political party.
• 1:03:24
  If you don't vote, you have nothing to complain about.
• 1:03:30
  If you don't exercise the rights given to you by people who have
• 1:03:34
  laid their lives. Now your political ability to
• 1:03:39
  vote in or out individuals according to their agenda for
• 1:03:48
  the country. This is the same thing.
• 1:03:50
  This is an agenda for our craft. and if you don't vote, Nobody's
• 1:03:57
  gonna care. Nobody's gonna listen to you.
• 1:04:00
  And many times you know I had non-union members complain about
• 1:04:04
  this that and I would say to them join the union.
• 1:04:07
  All know I'm not getting anything from my money and shut
• 1:04:10
  up because you don't have the right to bitch if you're not
• 1:04:13
  willing to participate. If you don't put it in the
• 1:04:18
  scanner, it doesn't go in your wallet if you're not in the
• 1:04:21
  Union. Can't change the situation for
• 1:04:25
  the better. So be involved, get involved.
• 1:04:30
  In the union so that your voice is heard.
• 1:04:35
  Assistant. Thanks guys.
• 1:04:38
  Yeah, excuse me, everybody have a good week.
• 1:04:43
  Be safe, it's been two weeks. Do everything you do
• 1:04:48
  professionally, efficiently, and make sure you get your ass home
• 1:04:52
  to your loved ones because you are the most important delivery
• 1:04:54
  of the day. Thank you Kristen.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, as the guy said, you know, right, officiation ballots are
• 1:05:05
  coming to a mailbox near you as well, as if you haven't already
• 1:05:10
  received your State's national delegate ballots, those should
• 1:05:13
  be arriving shortly as well. So, please just, I mean the most
• 1:05:20
  simplest. Thing that you can do is to
• 1:05:24
  vote, you know, both of them. Ratification is a simple.
• 1:05:28
  Yes, or no, that's your personal choice.
• 1:05:32
  But please just just vote. I mean, that all I can say on
• 1:05:36
  that, that's the bare minimum. You can, you can do as I see it
• 1:05:40
  to be active. Is to vote.
• 1:05:47
  And then note guys, stay safe out there, everybody, stay
• 1:05:51
  hydrated. I know whether it's still kind
• 1:05:54
  of weird and might not get the woods up and down up and down,
• 1:05:56
  but some areas are getting hot, some areas are still not so hot
• 1:06:01
  like I am So, on that note guys, stay safe and we'll see you back
• 1:06:07
  next week.