Latest / Notable Nostalgia / 94. Titanic with special guest Titanicfan97!
Transcript
- 0:00This was a really chaotic episode. We're gonna get a review. Uh,
- 0:03we're gonna get an interview. Yeah. Then I'm Ali, I'm Andy,
- 0:15I'm Jeff, and I'm Ria. And this is notable nostalgia. Hey,
- 0:28what's up, nostalgia nerds. It's me Andy calling you from the time phone.
- 0:33The year nineteen ninety seven, the location, movie theater, the movie
- 0:38Titanic. I went back in time to watch that titan to watch the Titanic
- 0:44on the big screen for the very first time. So while I'm watching the
- 0:48movie, I want you to listen to our interview with Titanic fan Underscore ninety
- 0:53seven. We talk all things Titanic. We talk about the new museum who
- 0:57just opened up in Florida, about being the number one collector in the world
- 1:02of Titanic on VHS. Oh, okay, I gotta go. The movie
- 1:04is about to start. Enjoy your episode, Titanic, Baby, what's going
- 1:15on? Yes, I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I've been yeah,
- 1:21obsessing for a while. I'm I'm just gonna get like break the ice
- 1:25a little bit, to get to know you're real good. Oh. I
- 1:30actually forgot to write questions. But but we'll go with it. So tell
- 1:34us about yourself. So this guy collects VHS is of what's that movie called
- 1:41again, Tanic? How many copies do you have of Titanic? Teven eighty
- 1:51eight copies of my favorite movie of all time? Baby, I love this
- 1:55so much. I love it. When did you start getting into collecting or
- 1:57a passion diving into the Titanic collection? VHS thing September one, nineteen ninety
- 2:06eight. Take the voyage home, That's what they were saying, and that's
- 2:08what I was playing in the VCR, you know what I mean. Titanic
- 2:13releases on VHS nineteen ninety eight, and that's when I got my very first
- 2:16copy. And it's like Pringles, what you pop? You can't stop?
- 2:20Baby, you know what I'm talking about? The hell? Yes, I
- 2:24was excited, but I'm like, I'm exponentially getting more and more excited right
- 2:29now. Yeah, he's collected. He collects Titanic on VHS. That's amazing,
- 2:32that so much. So I saw I saw. Now, this is
- 2:37not a fun part of the story, but Titanic has a really sad is
- 2:39a sad movie pretty much. But I saw an influx of your fans reaching
- 2:46out to you around when that thing imploded, going and visiting the Titanic like
- 2:53that, Like he's like an expert, and I love that. Yeah,
- 2:55Like I love that so much. Okay, so let's see, I just
- 3:00wanted to chitchat pretty much. We invited Joe because the Titanic is notable.
- 3:04We're notable Nostalgia Nineties Retrospective podcast. Titanic was pretty fucking big back then.
- 3:09When you talk about the nineties, very few people are gonna not bring up
- 3:14Titanic like that's that's a staple of the nineties. It grossed two point two
- 3:19six four million dollars billion dollars on in in money, and to put that
- 3:24into perspective, Babies Day Out gross thirty million. It wasn't the same year,
- 3:32but both were pretty notable movies of their time. Sure. Yeah,
- 3:39and then it won a bunch of awards. I don't know how many,
- 3:43a lot. I didn't look it up. Academy Awards. Babies know what
- 3:46I'm talking about. I love that so much. What do they win Academy
- 3:51Awards for? Can you literally name eleven of them? We got Best Director,
- 3:55Best Original Song, Best Original Dramatic Score, Best Costume Design, Our
- 4:00Direction, best sound, best cinematography, best special effects, baby, best
- 4:03visual effects, and best filming. You know what I'm talking about. It's
- 4:08the best picture of all time, nineteen ninety seven Titanic. So I love
- 4:14that JD has so many copies of Titanic on VHS? Like, have you
- 4:19what inspired you to collect them? Was it like did you see somebody was
- 4:24collecting VHS's of like a Bronx tale or like what what was your inspiration?
- 4:32I mean James Cameron, James Cameron, what can I say about the master
- 4:36himself? He is just such an amazing director. And once I saw Titanic
- 4:41on VHS, I knew I had to get as many copies as possible.
- 4:45Once DVDs came out, you saw a lot of these in the thrift stores.
- 4:47So I'm a big thrifter myself, and I saw a bunch of these
- 4:50pretty cheap, and I said, hey, someone's got collect these all.
- 4:54And we are right here, right now on the mission. You know what
- 4:57I'm talking about, trying to get a million copies of my face favorite movie
- 5:00of all time TMB Titanic on VHS? How many times do you watch it?
- 5:05A week? Three day? I'm actually watching it right now it's behind
- 5:12behind my phone. But yes, I am watching Titanic as we speak because
- 5:15I love this movie so much of James Camry. This is like so easy.
- 5:20Are you on Cameo? Oh yeah? Oh nice? Yeah, that's
- 5:26awesome. Like I'll be doing that daily. If do you wish that it
- 5:30didn't end the way it did? Just find Jack Dawson makes it to America.
- 5:35He lives in my house and we watch Titanic every day. I hate
- 5:39I don't want to put him on the spot, But is Jack Dawson there
- 5:42with you right now? He's right here. I'll go get him. Okay,
- 5:46thank you so much? Like he is my literally my favorite celebrity,
- 5:51like he probably he just dethroned Miss Juicy. Oh my god, yes Jack
- 6:00the year. I love it so much. Thank you. I'm gonna I'm
- 6:06gonna remember this for the rest of my life. I have so many things
- 6:10to say because I didn't know he was going to be on the podcast tonight.
- 6:13But so him and Rose Stick stay together and get married or is she
- 6:17not living with you? Guys? Jack Sawson was on Titanic and he lives
- 6:21in my house now. He was so cool in Titanic on VHS. WHOA
- 6:29and you go to comic cons both of you. Oh, yes, we
- 6:32go to conventions. Anytime we see one. We will fly across America if
- 6:36we have to. We just went to Titanic Con in Vegas a few months
- 6:40ago, and it's coming here into Orlando soon. You know what I'm talking
- 6:45about. Oh, yes, Titanic Kern. That's awesome. I don't know
- 6:49they had Titanic cons. I've been to like a Star Trek con before,
- 6:51but next time I like a Titanic is within four hours. I'm gonna go
- 6:56for sure. That's incredible. I have an important question, just ask you
- 7:00j. I guess Jack can answer it too. Do you in your life
- 7:04do you feel a sense of time, Like, oh, I could watch
- 7:08titan It takes me as long to watch Titanic as it does for me to
- 7:11get to like me Mo's house. Well, I have multiple VCRs, so
- 7:17I pop in cassette number one here, cassette number two here, maybe a
- 7:21little further into cassette number one here, and a little further into cassette too
- 7:25over here, So I can watch Titanic all at the same time, all
- 7:28at once, and I can just pretty much watch it pretty instantly you know
- 7:31what I'm talking about. It's Titanic. I mean, do you watch it
- 7:35on DVD? Oh? Yeah, I used to wow DVD, but you
- 7:44know, VHS is really where our heart is. I used to take very
- 7:47very cold showers when I was a kid because of this movie. Oh,
- 7:51because I wanted to see, like can I do it? I didn't know
- 7:55that, like the cold temperature my shower is not the same as the Titanic
- 7:59waters. Have you ever seen the movie the Titanic movie that has Nev Campbell
- 8:07in it, and it's called Blood and Steel? Blood and Steel? No,
- 8:11I have not seen that one. Do you believe that it's is it
- 8:16kind of like when X Men was owned by Fox and now they're re releasing
- 8:20it on Marvel, Like you will you watch it if you had to?
- 8:24I believe James Cameron is the sole provider of any Titanic experience on the big
- 8:30screen. So if it's not James Cameron, take a hike, buddy.
- 8:33You know what I'm talking about. I love it so much, like like
- 8:39I love everything about it. So I was gonna say fun fact about Titanic.
- 8:43The only the one the nineteen ninety seven was it seven? Cool?
- 8:50The actors did the costumes and pretended that they were there. Yeah, in
- 8:58the movie. And I think that everybody showed up for this movie. Oh,
- 9:03like, I think everyone showed up, especially the extras. Like it's
- 9:07hard to like die on screen, Like, I don't know because I haven't
- 9:09done that, but I can imagine it could be intense. And they do
- 9:15a really nice job dying. I don't know what kind of research they did.
- 9:20They probably died. They probably before we get into the movie. Should
- 9:26we do a quick lightning round? Yeah, if that's okay with you?
- 9:30Chief the question, So, Jack, who was your favorite spice girl?
- 9:39You say Titanic? Oh, James Cameron, I like that. Would you
- 9:46rather eat yogurt or pudding? Titanic? Gun dhad? And finally, do
- 9:56you think that Jack Dawson should have been on the board at the end or
- 10:01no? Say this for right now. For the record, he made it
- 10:07to America. My man had to swim away because there was a mean lady
- 10:13on Titanic, and the only way my man can get to America was just
- 10:16you know, dive underneath, pretend to nap. Now he's here in America
- 10:20living the best life of all time, watching Titanic on VHS every single day
- 10:24of our life. That's awesome. And last, little get to know you
- 10:31a question you do voice acting man? Would you play Jack Dawson in an
- 10:41animated version of Titanic any day? You know what I'm talking about, James
- 10:46Camery and call me buddy. I love it so much. Thank you allie.
- 10:52What was your memory of Titanic To get our listener up to speed,
- 10:58Yeah, I mean I never saw it in nineteen ninety seven. Uh.
- 11:01Actually this week was the first time I've ever seen Titanic. That's crazy.
- 11:05Uh. And then but I definitely remember it being out and you know,
- 11:11Celine Dion Heart will go On? I remember growing up here in Portland we
- 11:16had Z one hundred The Morning Zoo and they had their version of my part,
- 11:22will go On and they used that scene where they're spinning, which is
- 11:28all hold on, like let me do it, So that was pretty fun.
- 11:33Yeah, Riyah, What was your first thing about this subject? So
- 11:39my aunt owned the VHS, so I am quite familiar with that, but
- 11:46I don't think I so. I think I was allowed to like watch most
- 11:50of it, but obviously, being growing up the way I did, like,
- 11:54I was not allowed to watch the very mild like nudity scene, and
- 12:01I think we fast forwarded through the non existent sex scene. So yeah,
- 12:07and then, GD, if you had to pitch this movie to somebody who's
- 12:13never seen it, how would you do it? Do you think? Not
- 12:15to put you on the spot, but I'm just curious, what would you
- 12:18say? I would say, do you love James Cameron, I love Jack
- 12:22Dawson, Bill Paxton, Selene beyond Captain Smith. Well, I got the
- 12:26movie for you. It's called Titanic on DHS and it's so cool. That's
- 12:33awesome. So for my So this movie came out in December of nineteen ninety
- 12:37seven, and my birthday is in January. So actually I saw this movie
- 12:41in theaters by myself for my birthday because my mom and my sister didn't want
- 12:46to see it. My dad was in the army at the time. And
- 12:48it was great. I loved it. I loved that movie, and I
- 12:52was really into The Titanic before even seeing it, so's that's why I wanted
- 12:56to see it. And it was just a really cool experience. And I
- 12:58remember that's probably the first like blockbuster, even though it wasn't during the summer
- 13:03that was like the first Blockbuster film that I saw that like wowed me,
- 13:07like the ship, just the see the water everything. I remember thinking like,
- 13:11oh my gosh, this is incredible, Like it felt like you're almost
- 13:15there, you know, for nineteen ninety seven especially, uh. And then
- 13:18I have actually touched the Titanic. Yeah, because in Las Vegas they have
- 13:24the Titanic exhibit. How did you touch it if it's underwater? Well,
- 13:28they brought up a huge piece uh and it's in the Las Vegas Titanic Exhibit.
- 13:33Uh, And I touched it. So you know, that's pretty cool.
- 13:35I've actually actually touched the Titanic. Message seems the big piece, the
- 13:39huge p Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
- 13:41You know. They told me not to touch it, but I'd be touching
- 13:45stuff. Did the Titanic in your timeline? Does the Titanic sink Titanic?
- 13:52There's a lot of conspiracies out there. It really happened, was Jacks and
- 14:00he jumped off and he swam to America. So that's the story I kind
- 14:03of follow. And my man, he's quite the swimmer. I love it
- 14:09so much. What are Jack Dawson's favorite movies or hobbies. He's really good
- 14:16at basketball. Have you ever seen basketball Diaries? Yeah, he's really good
- 14:20at basketball. Does Jack Dawson watch Titanic on VHS? Yeah, we're watching
- 14:26it right now. That's awesome. We watch it every day. He probably
- 14:31gives you behind the scenes gossip. My man's full of knowledge and he's so
- 14:37cool. I love it. So, yeah, let's just see where this
- 14:43goes. And we're thinking maybe we could start with the story and the plot.
- 14:50Yeah, how does everybody feel it? Because anybody listening to this right
- 14:52now, especially being a nineties podcast, other than Ali, I think everybody
- 14:58has seen this movie prior to this week. So instead of doing like a
- 15:01play by play, you know, we thought maybe we would break it down
- 15:03into sections. So we're thinking section one could be story plot, Section two
- 15:07could be cast characters, Section three could be the effects, music, the
- 15:11score, and then four maybe we'll just end with our additional final thoughts.
- 15:16Do you think that everybody knows what this movie's about? Yes, And that's
- 15:22why I think it's such a good story and plot because I think for them
- 15:24to make everybody knows that the Titanic, supposedly, you know, is gonna
- 15:30sink at the end right. So for them to create two characters that we
- 15:33end up caring about, it's wonderful because that's the reason the movie is so
- 15:37great is because we didn't know how it's gonna end in a way. But
- 15:39now we're really focused on these two characters and the story of you know,
- 15:45like a rich woman that's like getting trapped opposed to like a poor poor dude
- 15:48who's like a free soul. Like it's such a good juxtaposition of characters.
- 15:52It's such a good movie. I love this story. I love this plot.
- 15:56Fucking great. I agree you to think of it. Ali Slasharia Alie's
- 16:03like, I have nothing to say about this movie, and I'm like ten
- 16:08out of ten per no notes. I think it's great. I think this
- 16:11story is pretty good. I will say there are a couple like a little
- 16:17bit. I can't tell if like James Cameron is trying to be satirical and
- 16:22kind of be on the nose about how how much privilege in class there was.
- 16:30I mean, I assume he is. I assume he's making a point,
- 16:33but I think overall it was it was good. I don't know if
- 16:37I would I don't know if I would do the same story. I think.
- 16:41So there's there was a made for TV movie that came out a year
- 16:45before, and it kind of had the same like love story plotline. I
- 16:52feel like every Titanic movie has this same sort of like plot line of starcross
- 16:56lovers, like it'd be it'd be cool if it was like a horror movie.
- 17:03I feel like Blood and Steel is probably a horror movie, I hope
- 17:04so oh, and it hasn't have Campbell. But what shocked me and like
- 17:10life, was they came out with Titanic movies like a year or two after
- 17:15the Titanic allegedly sank. Oh. Yeah, I think back then that was
- 17:22a way to get kind of news out and so there was more like not
- 17:26like a news bulletin, but it was like a movie. But that's how
- 17:29they communicate because a lot of people got like updates on Wars by going to
- 17:32the movies. Anyways. But yeah, the whole story with Jack and Dawson,
- 17:37she was pretty much like a morpharratic dream from a magazine. Yeah,
- 17:45I don't know, I have no idea what that means. You looked,
- 17:48but I am so sorry, I have no idea. So, GDI,
- 17:51what do you think of the story and the plot. The story and the
- 17:53plot, all right, So what you said is everyone knows about Titanic.
- 17:59You don't need it just description. And that's exactly what James Cameron thought on
- 18:03Titanic on VHSC the back. There's actually no description of the movie at all
- 18:07besides the eleven Academy Awards, including Best Picture. That's all you needed to
- 18:11know is it had Best Picture, baby, and it did. Oh my
- 18:18gosh. I just want to make sure you're doing okay though on this podcast
- 18:22so far right, like you're having fun Titanic okay, No, I agree,
- 18:29And then if they throw in a little bit of uh, like a
- 18:33body like Jennifer, I'm just sorry. Uh No, I love this movie.
- 18:38They won awards and stuff, but yeah, no, I've had a
- 18:41lot of flaws in it, Like I I don't and I know I should
- 18:45understand. I don't understand the women and children first thing. And I get
- 18:49like we're supposed to be like protective of our women and kids or whatever,
- 18:53but like no, like that's not my fault. Like I got to the
- 18:57boat before you. I don't know, Like I don't know. Earlier you
- 19:02said women couldn't vote back then, so I did say that I don't think
- 19:07they could vote back then, So then you you're you're afraid that it's just
- 19:11gonna be like a lawless country with no voting, no voting, But I
- 19:15don't know. But anyways, that's so off the track, Andy, No,
- 19:19I'm pro women in pro tea. I'm obviously pro Titanic on VHS always.
- 19:23I think that's how you have to watch it is on VHS. So
- 19:27do you you have you have multiple VHS players, like eight VHS players,
- 19:36and they're all playing Titanic on VHS. Is everybody that you live with into
- 19:41Titanic on VHS as much as you have to be? Like I wonder you
- 19:47imagine? Yeah, I'm wondering because it would be like a like a family
- 19:51of superpowers if all of them have a passion. I think that's really cool
- 19:55that you guys could be like the Kardashians of Titanic on VHS. And I
- 19:59love that. What do you what? We're gonna change the subject to,
- 20:03Uh, well, if does anybody else have anything about the story or the
- 20:07plot, because I do, Like I said before, I loved actually,
- 20:10I really enjoyed that the I didn't really think about how it's like a Romeo
- 20:14and Juliet because they don't end up at the end, and that's well,
- 20:17they don't end up at the end, and that's why it's You just feel
- 20:19for it so bad and you keep thinking about it and then you're sad.
- 20:22Then you need to see it again because it's so beautiful. But I don't
- 20:25know, it's just great. I love this fucking movie that they could have
- 20:27been together, right, I don't. No, I don't think so belongs
- 20:33with me exactly. Oh, I love that Jack Dawson so great? And
- 20:41do you name animals after Jack Dawson. Yeah, we have two Jack Dowgson's.
- 20:49Do you appreciate Does Jack Dawson live in the same universe as Leonardo DiCaprio.
- 21:00Okay, that's cool. I just wanted to make sure, like,
- 21:03I know how you feel about Growing Pains. You know the movie of Growing
- 21:07Pains or show Growing Pains. It's not Titanic. No, that has a
- 21:14very young Jack Dawson. That was like maybe his first gig when he got
- 21:17to America, and then oh he got to America, got with JD and
- 21:22went to go on Growing Pains. I like that. Yeah, No,
- 21:26I think that's good on story. Yeah, who's your favorite character? JD
- 21:33from Titanic Jack Dawson, my man. But there's also Molly Brown who shined
- 21:38him like shine them up like a new Penny. We got Captain Smith,
- 21:42we got Bill Paxton, you know what I'm talking about. It's so beautiful.
- 21:47And of course Selene Dion when she enters the mix. I love that
- 21:49scene so much, Selene. I love this the character characters in the cast.
- 21:59I don't know if they could have done anybody better, especially at that
- 22:02time, because, like I said, a little bit Ago Leo up and
- 22:04coming gorgeous of course, like fucking beautiful. I love Rose. I think
- 22:10she is great, beautiful, those two. I think their chemistry on stage
- 22:14or on that stage, on the screen together is undeniable. I think those
- 22:18two are so good together. And I think it was great casting everybody,
- 22:22Billy Zane being kind of like a pos you know, wonderful graageous too,
- 22:27Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I mean everybody was great. But this is
- 22:33where I kind of wanted to get into the wardrobe a little bit. Yeah,
- 22:37James Cameron did amazing research for this movie, and I think having somebody
- 22:42that did such good, you know, wardrobe research would help the people feel
- 22:48like they actually are in that time era. So when Rose, when you
- 22:52first see Rose, when she's getting out of that vehicle, what she's wearing.
- 22:55There is a magazine from Paris from nineteen twelve and is she got released
- 23:00in January of nineteen twelve, and it's almost identical to what Rose is wearing.
- 23:06It's incredible. So the wardrobe itself, I think should be a character
- 23:10within itself, including Titanic. I think the Titanic is a character within the
- 23:14movie because it showed how beautiful it was, the sadness of when it was
- 23:18sinking. It's just the Yeah, I don't think we can talk about characters
- 23:22without talking about the wardrobe because it's perfect. And the Titanic itself, No,
- 23:27I agree about the wardrobe. Well, even just little things like before
- 23:33the dinner party, they're all wearing like all the women wearing long elbow gloves,
- 23:37but then while they're actually eating, the gloves are off because that's what
- 23:40they did at that time. So just those little details where you don't realize
- 23:44how perfect it is makes the movie. It just brings you in the movie.
- 23:48It's just so fucking good. What did you think of JD of the
- 23:52wardrobe of the movie Titanic on VHS. Jack Dawson and no suspenders. You
- 23:56gotta be kidding me. But when he takes those boots off, my goodness,
- 24:02it's one boot off, two boot off, and he goes, I'm
- 24:06Jack Dawson and I'm so cool, and he was Jack Dawson and he was
- 24:10so cool. Oh, I love the way he looked at that movie.
- 24:14I've actually seen that with the suspender suit, because a few months ago I
- 24:18went to the Leonardo da Vinci exhibit in Portland, and then I made a
- 24:22joke on the way. I'm like, that'd be funny if I accidentally went
- 24:26to the Leonardo DiCaprio exhibit. They had a James Cameron exhibit going on at
- 24:30the same time they had the da Vinci exhibit, so I got to see
- 24:33all their real clothes and I was like, oh, my gosh, I
- 24:36didn't realize Jack Dawson's quite a bit shorter than I am. They actually had
- 24:40a Jack Dawson exhibit. Well, they had a James Cameron exhibit which and
- 24:42they talked a lot about Titanic, and they had Roses dress, they had
- 24:47Jack Dawson's clothes. They had pieces from the Titanic there. It's really it
- 24:49was really cool. But wait, so it was a James Cameron exhibit.
- 24:53H but not just a Titanic movie exhibit because it seems like the same thing.
- 24:59No, it's about how he went down, you know. Uh,
- 25:02to see the title, it's about Titanic and other things that James Carmen.
- 25:06James Cameron, he did Terminator and stuff. Oh okay, so they talked
- 25:10about Terminator a little bit. It was mainly I just don't get it,
- 25:14like, be about Titanic, not about the Terminator. Fucking amaze. Terminator
- 25:19two. Terminator two the best, one of the best movies of all time,
- 25:23but also definitely the best sequel of all time. Okay, I heard
- 25:27Terminator two was good. But imagine if they put Jack Dawson in as Arnold.
- 25:32Would you be Oh, you would love that. I love that for
- 25:37you. James Cameron. Okay, classic John Connor, Jack Dawson, Jake
- 25:45solely James Cameron. What's going on right now? Yeah? I love that.
- 25:49Yeah, James Cameron. He I he made movies. Uh, Ellie,
- 25:57yeah, Uh, what do you have to say about that about James
- 26:03Cameron made movies. I think the cast, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
- 26:07trying to stand on point there, I guess I was disappointed. I
- 26:12think the casting is good. I was disappointing the character development. I just
- 26:18for how long this movie is. I don't think they did, like really
- 26:21any character development or making me care about these characters. Jack Oh, I
- 26:29liked Jack Dawson. Okay, I would never send him in your presence.
- 26:38What do you have to say? What's that, Jeff? Say something to
- 26:44Jack Dawson, like I apologize to Jack Dawson, Ali said, Alie likes
- 26:48Jack Dawson, Just make it, but like not talking to him directly?
- 26:52Is he went from sleeping under a bridge having dinner with those fine folks on
- 26:59first class dinner. That's quite the development, I get. Yeah, and
- 27:04just like so free, I really felt like there was not a lot of
- 27:08character development on like anybody, like you have Kathy Bates in this film and
- 27:12she's barely used. You know that their backgrounds are too simple and like it's
- 27:18not like something you haven't seen before in films, And so their backgrounds were
- 27:22the ocean, though there's not much has changed. I'm with you, Uh
- 27:26it was just water. I didn't really care about any of these characters,
- 27:30because I don't feel like they did anything to like really make me care.
- 27:33If you're gonna if you're gonna break up with somebody, don't break up with
- 27:37them in the car, like for Rose in this timeline. In this reality,
- 27:44like Rose decided to break up with her fiance on a cruise ship.
- 27:48She can't get away, Like that's the timing, lady, timing. That
- 27:53wasn't cool. She should have stayed with him, got married, got got
- 27:56some pop some babies out, took a lot of his money, slowly give
- 28:00him some like I don't know, some kind of opoid that he passes away,
- 28:04take the money, and then go live like a baller for like six
- 28:07months with Jack Dawson. But I understand. But in the real world,
- 28:11Jack Dawson is living with jd in a Titanic room. I don't think JD's
- 28:18Yeah, does Jack Dawson leave the Titanic room during the day or just for
- 28:23events? Mostly just for events, But yeah, my man holds it down
- 28:29because someone's gonna watch all this Titanic on DHS. The only thing I had
- 28:33to say, like with Rose especially, I was just really taken away from
- 28:37caring about her because she just she's gonna kill herself because she doesn't like her
- 28:41like her fiance. Like that's I was just like, it felt really like
- 28:45kind of childish and just like grow up. Well, she's seventeen in this
- 28:48movie. Well she looks mid twenty. That's because she developed differently. He
- 28:53was like two when she filmed this, But she's supposed to be playing a
- 28:57seventeen year old. They make that clear in the very beginning. That is
- 29:02a really important scene though, too. And I think that's maybe why she
- 29:03fell in love with Jack Dawston, because when he goes you can jump in
- 29:07if you want, but I'm gonna have to jump in with you. That
- 29:10might have been the first time she was actually able to make her own decision
- 29:12on something with her mom being sete. That's so true, Andy, I'll
- 29:15just cut you off to tell you. But also when I was watching,
- 29:18I was thinking, like the things he's saying to her, he doesn't know
- 29:22her mindset right now. That could have jumped because he was kind of like
- 29:27like like you know, spitting around. Yeah, that's true. So and
- 29:32then I have to say work ethic of I don't know what topic we're on
- 29:36right now, but work ethic, the butler guy or the handyman. To
- 29:41Billy Zane, he is his job, but he knows that he's going down
- 29:45in the Titanic, and he does not he's willing to kill. Well,
- 29:48I guess me and Rio would kill for Billy Zane? Am I right?
- 29:52Real whistle? Yes, he is gorgeous. I wish that he wasn't bad.
- 29:56Yeah, No, that's one thing with the character. I'm not at
- 29:59like just because Billy's a and I felt like it was pretty good, uh
- 30:03bad guy alone. I don't know if they really needed a henchman, but
- 30:06I do think a good bad guy Bully always needs to have a henchman.
- 30:08But it just seemed like an extra character, just to have an extra character.
- 30:11If you're gonna make Billies ain't bad, just make him like full bad.
- 30:15I guess I don't know, but you know, Fan was handsome for
- 30:18an older gentleman, I think, wasn't he? And teenage meeting Na Turtles
- 30:22too? Is that the same person? I'm thinking? I don't remember because
- 30:25the main copy he knows how many different vhs is do you have that aren't
- 30:30Titanic? That aren't Titanic? By James Cameron yeah, do you have I
- 30:37have turtles, like real turtles or movies. Okay, you don't have any
- 30:45turtles or lizards or anything. Jack Dogson's and Jack Dawson. I love it
- 30:53so much. Okay, yeah, Ria say something I don't know. I
- 31:03wasn't. Uh, it's interesting because so I made. I don't remember what
- 31:07year it was, like twenty ten. Whenever they re released this in the
- 31:12theaters. I saw it. I took my friend and I maybe him watch
- 31:18it, and he hates me forever for that. But like I think,
- 31:22the more I watch it, the more I like. The less I like
- 31:26these characters. Like I, I don't know, I feel like there's nothing
- 31:34too like about Rose, Like she's kind of a selfish brat, and I
- 31:40don't think she I don't know. She just doesn't show any like character growth
- 31:47for me, and like believe, I don't believe that she's reformed or that
- 31:51she's like a better person. I mean, she lets him die on like
- 31:53she could have made room on that board, so she didn't change at all.
- 31:56And then when she dies, she's just surrounded by pictures of herself that,
- 32:05you know, like she's just like in her room, around her bed
- 32:07are just pictures of her. Wait, you forgot that. At one point
- 32:10Rose takes off her shoes. So that's character growth right there. But like
- 32:19and it's also it's she's also a really shitty person because like that diamond was
- 32:23worth more than any that she your kids or yeah, give it to your
- 32:28kids. Yeah yeah, auction it off for charity, do something with it.
- 32:32But then in the end she's just like you give that scene where she's
- 32:39like giggling and like what is this? Yeah, I hated that scene a
- 32:44lot. She might have had like a mental illness or something, but I
- 32:49don't know she I don't know what I was gonna say, but I just
- 32:53think it was it was great. I did like the dynamic between Bill Paxton
- 33:00and his and the other guy, the the guy on the boat. Yeah,
- 33:07I wrote down, I'm like, this is exactly him and Philip symour
- 33:15Hoffman and Twister, like even to the thing, even to the same where
- 33:17he's like you're the best, who's the best, And I'm like, that's
- 33:21so that was like lifted from Twister. Although Bill Paxson's hair in this look
- 33:25whatever they did for him in this it's terrible. Yeah, that was so
- 33:32so in your in the In the real life, Jack Dawson exists in the
- 33:37same world that James Cameron exists. So I forget what I was gonna say,
- 33:45But they're both so cool. They are so like, does what's James
- 33:51camp Like? What does Jack appreciate about James Cameron? Do you think?
- 33:54I mean, it's the big j c You know what I'm talking about,
- 33:58the big James Cameron. He made Titanic on VHS the greatest movie of all
- 34:02time. Without James Cameron, there is no Jack Dawson. Without Jack Dawson,
- 34:06there is no me, you know what I mean. It's it's very
- 34:09complicated, that is titic that's so fun, Like it's so bizarre, like
- 34:14awesome and beautiful how the world is in the universes, Like if the Titanic
- 34:19didn't happen, James Cameron wouldn't have made Titanic and we wouldn't have been talking
- 34:24about Titanic on our podcast with the Titanic fan that has so many vhs is
- 34:31how many do you have again? Twenty seven eighty eight copies under the belt.
- 34:37So what would we be doing right now? Like this this is where
- 34:40life has brought us. All five of us would probably be doing a Terminator
- 34:46to podcast. Now, my sister was so obsessed with this movie because she
- 34:51was like a Leonardo DiCaprio Jack Dawson fan, and but she was more into
- 34:55Battery Boys whatever. But I like my sister. I shared this you before.
- 35:00But my sister recently moved to Ohio, so wait for me to stay
- 35:05connected to her. Is she has a Kroger out there, so I'm assuming
- 35:07she goes to Kroger. I use her points for fuel nice and I send
- 35:14her child like children's books that are like suggestive about like you know, Polly's
- 35:19Beaver needs a haircut, like those kind of ones. And then finally the
- 35:22recent when I started doing and this is me telling her because she listens,
- 35:28is I've been giving out her information to religious organizations. And she's an atheist
- 35:36and she has like she's very like against people like soliciting at her house.
- 35:40So I've been giving religious organizations her information, not like her social Security number,
- 35:45but like yeah, yeah, so I hope Jesse's enjoying that. I
- 35:50feel bad for like the missionaries or whatever that come out to her house because
- 35:52she's she's a nightmare with that. But but yeah, hey Jesse, jad,
- 35:57can you say ahead to my sister. She's a fan of you.
- 36:00And the Titanic on VHS. Hey, Titanic on BHS. I hope you're
- 36:06watching it on VHS the way James Cameron intended it. I know, I
- 36:09am so. Another point of another great part of this movie, especially for
- 36:15nineteen ninety seven, I think, was the effects, the music and the
- 36:17score. It's wonderful. How does everybody feel about those? Does the do
- 36:22the effects still hold up in twenty twenty four? JD What do you think?
- 36:28James Cameron is a master at the craft? You know what it is,
- 36:31my man? I mean, it still looks good, especially on VHS
- 36:35to the day. You know what I'm talking about, James. Yes,
- 36:39when I watched this now, it still looks pretty good. You can tell
- 36:43it's kind of dated, but I don't. It doesn't take me out of
- 36:45the movie like some movies from the nineties. I would say it looks vintage.
- 36:50Oh, there we go, vintage. My spouse, Jeremy, what's
- 36:53up? He thought that Rose at the end was the real life Rose when
- 37:00he was a kid. Oh I see yeah? And I was like,
- 37:05nah, bro. But James Cameron is married to the one that had sexual
- 37:08tension with Bill Paxton. That's his real life wife. Did not know that,
- 37:12yeah, his first wife or second wife, probably because he's in Hollywood,
- 37:15but it was Linda Hamilton. Really yeah, weird. Ali Ria,
- 37:20how do you feel about effects music or Gore? I don't know. I
- 37:28I think it does definitely looks dated, Like when the people are like falling
- 37:32off the boat, I'm just like, oh, come on, now,
- 37:35do you want to They kind of look like gingerbread men to me, I
- 37:42agree with I'm sorry, I agree with Riha. I wish it would have
- 37:46been gorier. Agreed, like I didn't see any guts, blood whatever,
- 37:52Like I agree, I mean drowning. How much blood and guts is there
- 37:57going to be? Well? Have you impaled yourself on the propeller? That's
- 38:00true? Yeah, yeah, a whole script. I think that, Like
- 38:09I personally, I love the score, like that is one of the best
- 38:14scores like ever James Horner. Yes, yes, yes, I had like
- 38:20the music book for how to play it on the piano and like I played
- 38:22the ship out of that and I love the Irish jigs. I love all
- 38:27the Irish music that's featured in the movie. So yeah, I think I
- 38:32think the effects are dated, but I think it's not. It doesn't detract,
- 38:37like I don't feel like it's so bad that it's like pixelated, like
- 38:40I can't not watch it. It's just that it does look dated, but
- 38:45I mean it is dated. I'm glad they went with like primarily a score
- 38:52throughout, and I think that there was like debate and if they would actually
- 38:55feature any songs that did have words so then so then like that My Heart
- 39:00Will Go On was kind of like a last like a last minute, last
- 39:02minute add on to the thing, which proved to be successful. Great.
- 39:07It's one of the most beautiful songs. I think all that song has one
- 39:09more Grammys and Lana del Ray oh yeah. I don't know if I think
- 39:14that song is so beautiful because of the movie or if it's just a great
- 39:16song. But I can't, you know, think of that song without the
- 39:19movie. Of course. Celine Dion's amazing. Are you a fan of slindon
- 39:22JD Oh? Yes, I have a signature by Celine Dion on my wall
- 39:28right now. I love me some CD on CD Selene be on CV.
- 39:32That's awesome. That's okay, really quick? Can I plug your like?
- 39:37If listeners want to send you copies of Titanic on DVD you advertise on VHS?
- 39:45Yeah, yeah, where can they find you? In all socials?
- 39:50You know what it is. If it's out there, I'm on there,
- 39:53So what they would type in like Titanic Guy, Titanic fan ninety seven,
- 39:59I love that. I love that, Ali, how about you? What
- 40:00about what about the effects? Yeah? I thought the effects were good.
- 40:05Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's obviously some scenes that Rea mentioned,
- 40:08just like it's just part of the era, which doesn't you know. I'm
- 40:14finding as we do this nostalgia podcast and rewatch stuff like even the bad CGI
- 40:17doesn't necessarily bother me that much when I watch them, And honestly, I
- 40:22find a lot of the times I find myself very impressed with how well CGI
- 40:25is in that era. Sometimes too so I thought the effects are good everything,
- 40:31like all the scenes where there were waters flooding in certain places, and
- 40:37you know the obviously those panic scenes are are well done. And then the
- 40:42score great, I agree with, Like the Irish jig stuff. I'm sure
- 40:46whoever you know, James Horner really took into consideration, like the era and
- 40:52then like what people on the boat would have heard and that kind of stuff.
- 40:54Oh sad. And then the only thing that bothered me was how often
- 40:59they played that at Is it a flute in the in the My Heart Will
- 41:04Go On? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, It's like how often they
- 41:07played that little flute jit like melody. It was kind of frustrating because I
- 41:13thought it was used too much. And then it's like a met millhouse on
- 41:16the episode, like when did they get the fireworks factory? And like when
- 41:20are they gonna play song I wanted? Yeah, So like back then at
- 41:25that time, if you would go to like stores, there would be like
- 41:30those CDs like in yeah or whatever. We pushed a little button in place
- 41:32a little bit of like dolphins sounds like. So people that were into this
- 41:37movie back then, like a little bit older people that had spending money,
- 41:40they were like fucking obsessed with like that kind of shit, So they probably
- 41:45loved the flute, like basic people love flutes. Lightful JD. Did you
- 41:53have like a favorite portion of the soundtrack? Oh, Saline Deone actually have
- 42:00the largest collection of Titanic on soundtrack right here. This is aighty one copies
- 42:06of the soundtrack on TV and cassette. So yes, we are very very
- 42:10passionate about James Horner and Selindian. Do you sell merchandise like that's sure to
- 42:21say. I love t on v that's Titanic on VHS. I love that
- 42:24so much. Absolutely yeah, because like, regardless if people I hate to
- 42:30say this, but some people might not love Titanic, but I think you're
- 42:36talking crazy. But here's the or they might not be super passionate about it,
- 42:39but here's the thing that can unite. I think all people, on
- 42:45whatever political beliefs you are, whatever kind of vibe you want, everybody likes
- 42:50Titanic on VHS. Guy, at least this dude, at least everyone can
- 42:54love JD. And that's the thing that's what can solve everything. Anyways,
- 43:02So I'll start with additional and final thoughts. So for me, I don't
- 43:07think this movie is great just because it has a nostalgia factor of me seeing
- 43:09it in the theaters by myself. Oddly enough, I remember my mom dropping
- 43:14her two nine. It came out ninety seven, so no, I just
- 43:16turned ten. It was for my tenth birthday because it came out in ninety
- 43:20seven, but my tenth birthday was nineteen ninety eight January tenth, So I
- 43:24saw it for my birthday. Yeah, yeah, same, but yeah,
- 43:30there was a lot of people in the theater too. And I remember I
- 43:30was a kid. I always wanted to sit up right up front, so
- 43:34I wasn't the front fucking roll like an idiot. But anyways, I don't
- 43:38think this movie holds so dear to my heart just because I saw it as
- 43:42a kid. I think now if I saw it, I think the storyline
- 43:45is good enough to make me watch the whole movie and care about these characters,
- 43:51and the fact that I'm a huge Titanic fan, you know, I
- 43:53just like the Titanic in general, just the whole story. I love it.
- 43:57And one of the crazy things too, the Titanic was discuss in nineteen
- 44:00eighty five, so this movie was being made eleven years after they discovered it,
- 44:05which is crazy to me, just that time period. And I think
- 44:08another reason why the Titanic holds so dear in so many people's hearts and everybody
- 44:13thinks about this is because we didn't really have internet back then. I mean,
- 44:16yeah, there's a little bit of internet, but so this is one
- 44:20of the stories that you hear about because it was such a worldwide event that
- 44:24people cared about it because everybody knew about the story, So I don't know,
- 44:30just my whole life, I've always been super infatuated with The Titanic.
- 44:34It's wonderful and oh by the way, but my final thoughts on this movie,
- 44:37I would give it ten Jack Dawson's that's awesome. Hell yeah, this
- 44:44movie I really got into Downton Abbey. And that's how they start the series
- 44:50with, not with the movie Titanic, but with the story of titan Oh.
- 44:53Really, that's the first beat of the show. Is the Titanic.
- 44:59That impact did the storyline for the characters. But anyways, nonetheless, this
- 45:05movie, what was the topic? I think it was great, Like it
- 45:09was a movie that was like big and then it was like really good.
- 45:13But I still don't think I'm a big fan of Rose to slash Kate Winslet.
- 45:19Originally it was supposed to be Claire Danes, did you alreaty talk about
- 45:22this? But she just did Romeo and Juliet with with Jack Dawson and she
- 45:28didn't want to, like, I don't know, something vibe in there,
- 45:31and yeah she was in Homeland clar Danes and Terminator three not I don't think
- 45:37James Cameron was involved in Terminator three. What do you think, JD.
- 45:40No, Nope, it didn't have that spice that the other two have.
- 45:45AnyWho, So, yeah, do I hate Kate Winslet, I yes,
- 45:51I do, and I just I would rather have Claire Danes be everything to
- 46:00the world as Kate Winslet is. But whatever, But she was in Homeland,
- 46:05and I think that I don't think Homeland would have happened without nine to
- 46:07eleven. But anyways, so I give Titanic. I'm gonna say one hundred
- 46:17and nine or one thy nineteen, one hundred and twelve stars out of one
- 46:22hundred and thousand a night, one nine hundred and twelve stars. Nice.
- 46:28I love that. It's a perfect score. That's when it happened the Titanic.
- 46:32Anyways, Hey, Ali, do you have any final thoughts on Titanic
- 46:36or just thoughts in general? Sure, I feel like Kate Winslets was great
- 46:43and is amazing and everything she does, and it was it was bullshit that
- 46:49she was fat shamed for her role in this. I didn't remember that,
- 46:52No, not you, No, but I remember that. Yeah, I
- 46:57love that you. I said, if something terrible happening to somebody and you
- 47:01were like that that wasn't me anyways. No, it's it's bullshit. She's
- 47:07fucking beautiful and gorgeous, and so I hate that that happened. Overall.
- 47:16I'm like, I don't have nostalgia for this movie. I've never seen a
- 47:22James Cameron film I like, and I just I didn't love. I really
- 47:29didn't like it. I'm sorry. I felt I wanted to be more invested
- 47:32in the characters. I was upset that, like the cast is as good
- 47:36as it is, and I don't I don't get to see more Kathy Bates
- 47:39or Billy Zaane and like see more character development. And I really really disliked
- 47:45the modern day portion of this film. I think that sucks. I really
- 47:52think that sucked. I think it really fucked up the film for me.
- 47:54I think the goal was I think the goal is to take You're going back,
- 48:01and this is obvious, You're going back with older Rose, and that's
- 48:06the point of view. Like when X Men and animated series starts, you
- 48:08said, I don't I really don't like Israel said, like, Rose's character
- 48:13is not great, Like I'm not invested in Rose's characters, so I'm not
- 48:15invested in this old lady either. Yeah, like the three of us at
- 48:20least hate King Winsley. We get it. I love Kate Winsley. Actually
- 48:23I love k too. Yeah, especially you love her eternal Sunshine amazing.
- 48:29You love her as much as Kathy Kathy Bates. No, you're a girl.
- 48:34You love her as much as your kids. Is that what you're saying?
- 48:37You said it, not me? Okay, what starts? Yeah?
- 48:42Continue, Alie. So that's all that's all, miss say. I'm sorry
- 48:45I didn't like it more. I wish, I wish I got the hype
- 48:47and everything. But well, next time it comes out, I'm sorry,
- 48:51Ali. When it comes out in theaters for the next time, can we
- 48:53go see it? Maybe that'll change you a little bit, maybe, JD.
- 48:57Do you have a preference on how you watch Itanic on VHS? That's
- 49:02the only way there we go. That's the issue that Ali had. I
- 49:06think Ali watch it on VHS, yeah, instead of the Paramount Plus.
- 49:13Yeah, please go. I love that Ali. Ali's sick. But they
- 49:19sound like the Verge of Tears, like it's an emotional interview. Well,
- 49:23especially when I'm sorry to like it more. I was like, it's okay,
- 49:27I think it's amazing. My voice is really cracked for this. I
- 49:32had to do a stand up set last night with this voice. It was
- 49:36really bad. I don't know how many? How many? What would you
- 49:38rate this movie? Alie, Oh, I need to rate it? I
- 49:43would It's like it's it's like a J A C on the Jack Dawson scale.
- 49:52Jack. Yeah, it's like a Jack out of Jack Dawson. It
- 49:58would have been cool if they would have done it like as a rom com
- 50:00because rom coms are really big back then. Yeah, and just done like
- 50:05she's not gonna go jump off, but she like slips and like falls on
- 50:07the ground and then there's like a yeah, that's so great. But yeah,
- 50:13things were terrifying back in the in the tens. I wouldn't even like
- 50:16to like be a grown up in the eighties, Like no Internet, what
- 50:20the are you gonna play video games? Yeah? But after you watch Titanic
- 50:24VHS? Yeah, how would you watch how would you watch Titango VHS?
- 50:28Real? What about you? How do you feel about this movie? And
- 50:30you're rating? I would say, I don't know. I think it's losing
- 50:36its luster for me the more I watch it. But I think I'm also
- 50:42I really love this sounds terrible. I really love when it's sinking. I
- 50:46think that is where the like the good cinematography is. I feel like that's
- 50:52a lot of where the good, really, really the good acting happens.
- 50:57I think watching the captain like just be like, Okay, that's it,
- 51:04I'm done, you know, and just go into hit into the captain's quarters.
- 51:07I just think like there was a lot of emotion put into those scenes,
- 51:13and I really really appreciated it. So like kind of I'm at the
- 51:15point where I'm like, let's just fast forward to when this starts sinking.
- 51:20Well, like the old couple, that's a real couple. The people,
- 51:23like the kids everything when they're when it's sinking and you can hear the music
- 51:27in the background. If you don't, right, I'm just gonna say it
- 51:30right now, you're a monster. There we go. I said it.
- 51:32I'm not taking it back. I think it's important to watch the whole thing.
- 51:36But like I'm into four play, so I think that's the you know,
- 51:40but I get it. So the sinking gets you ready to go huh
- 51:43yeah. JD. What's your overall feelings about the movie and what would you
- 51:47rate it. I'm more of like a set number one kind of guy.
- 51:52I love the Jack Dawson scenes where he's playing poker, he's the king of
- 51:54the world, he's dancing, he's at the first class dinner. I mean
- 51:58the speech come on of making each day count. I work my way from
- 52:01place to place, you know, tramp steamers and such. But I won
- 52:06my ticket on Titanic here at a lucky handed poker, a very lucky hand.
- 52:12All life is a game of luck. A real man makes his own
- 52:15luck. Gotcha right, doesn't hm? And do you find that sort of
- 52:21rootless existence appealing? Do you? Well, yes, ma'am, I do.
- 52:29I mean, got everything I need right here with me, got the
- 52:31air in my lungs, and a few blank sheets of paper. I mean,
- 52:36I love waking up in the morning, not knowing what's gonna happen,
- 52:38or who I'm gonna meet, where I'm gonna wind up. Just the other
- 52:44night, I was sleeping under a bridge, and now here I am on
- 52:46the grandest ship in the world, having champagne with you find people, I
- 52:50don't pick some of I figure life's a gift and I don't intend on wasting
- 52:54it. You never know what hand. You're gonna get dealt next. You
- 53:00learned to take life as it comes at you. Boy, you go count
- 53:05to make each day count well, said Jack. Yeah. Jack Dawson hits
- 53:10it hard, gets set number one. But yeah, obviously this movie changed
- 53:15my life. Obviously around me, I have so much Titanic and so much
- 53:17support for my community from Titanic, going to Titanic conventions, meeting everyone who
- 53:22just loves Titanics, titan the acts, and it's just so fun. I
- 53:27love this movie. I give it a nineteen ninety seven out of ten because
- 53:30that's the year it came out. And James Cameron, if you're listening,
- 53:32buddy, pick up the phone. I'm trying to talk. Yeah. No,
- 53:37he's probably not listening to this. No, it might be O.
- 53:43No. I think my last question for you, every time you watch Cassette
- 53:50one, do you always have to watch Cassette two? Or do you start
- 53:52over with Cassette one and just sometimes you just play that a couple times in
- 53:55a row. Yeah. People don't like to hear this, but because Set
- 54:00number one, I will rewind it and watch it again. I love that
- 54:04one so much, Thank you so much. I think we're gonna let you
- 54:07go, but thank you. I oh what and I have some questions?
- 54:12Oh yeah, let's do that real okay? Oh yeah yeah. So JD,
- 54:19have you ever done a live stream of you watching Titanic and so your
- 54:22fans can watch how you interact, how you react to the movie in real
- 54:25time. Yeah. So every Tuesday we do Titanic Tuesday where I celebrate Titanic
- 54:30on VHS on TikTok and we watch Titanic for the wholes set number one.
- 54:35Okay, I love that. Okay, if you had to choose, So
- 54:40Sophie's choice situation, are you picking Jack Dawson or James Cammy, don't tell
- 54:49James, but Jack Dawson's coming home with me? All right? Is there
- 54:55a copy out of the twenty eight hundred plus copies that you own that is
- 55:00your personal favorite? Yeah? I can get it, right, Quicks,
- 55:04Oh, I like that. I'm talking. This is the screen or of
- 55:07Titanic on HS made in nineteen ninety, seventy year before the actual release of
- 55:12Titanic on VHS, and this is how it won the eleven Academy Awards.
- 55:15They sent this puppy out and oh so beautiful. That's amazing. That is
- 55:21cool. Do you watch that one often? Never watched it? It's sacred.
- 55:25Yeah, yeah, yeah special. You save that like a bottle of
- 55:29fine wine for a special monumental day. Oh yeah, that's awesome. Uh.
- 55:35Your my next question, are you upset that Avatar made more money than
- 55:38Titanic? It was different times. We have more people on the Earth now
- 55:43there's more ways to stream movies and that brings them more income. I think
- 55:46it's unfair to say that, but Titanic at the time very impressive. Yeah.
- 55:52So Titanic with the same amount of release that Avatar gets it out,
- 55:57it out sells Avatar by a mile, I assume. Yeah, if it
- 56:02was on you know, today's standards, for sure. Okay, my last
- 56:07question, how long does it take to rewind Titanic on VHS? Nice?
- 56:14We can go for about five to six minutes sometimes depending on the VCR,
- 56:16but around five minutes. Okay, all right, Wow, that's all the
- 56:22questions I had. Thank you for answering my question. An amazing question.
- 56:25Yeah, that was such a good question. Actually, yeah, that's great.
- 56:29Do you have any any final thoughts? Jd Uh If you're out there
- 56:34and you want to watch Titanic for the first time, or maybe for the
- 56:37tenth time. Watch it on VHS, the only way to watch Titanic.
- 56:42I love that so much. And where can our listeners find you again?
- 56:45I'm on all social media's under Titanic Fan ninety seven. That's the year the
- 56:50movie came out, and of course I am a big Titanic fan. I
- 56:54can tell that. And please say good night to Jack Dawson. If he's
- 56:59asleep right now, he probably has a busy day tomorrow watching stuff. Oh
- 57:04there he is, Thank you, Jack, my man, my man,
- 57:08my man. Can you see him right now? Yeah, he has Jack
- 57:12Dawson with him. I just wanted to say to you, like, thank
- 57:14you so much for being on this podcast, Like I've been following you for
- 57:16a long time, and the Jeff's like, hey, I invited the Titanic
- 57:21Fan. I'm like, are you kidding me? I didn't know that,
- 57:22Jeff and I followed you. I was like, are you kidding me?
- 57:27I've sent your videos to so many people. It's wonderful. I love the
- 57:30enthusiasm. I love when people are passionate about anything and you're always like super
- 57:35funny, just great, and thank you so much for taking time out and
- 57:37being with us tonight. It was awesome, Like, I love how passionate
- 57:40we do it. For James Cameron, yeah, but I love that you
- 57:44do provide a lot like a people happiness and I think that's so great like
- 57:49in today's world that like you and Jack Dawson with the help of James Cameron
- 57:52obviously. Oh and then really quick too, I'm sorry before you leave.
- 57:57Is there a po box that we could send videos to or would we find
- 58:00the information on your socials? It's on all my socials under the bio.
- 58:05You'll find it right there. It's super easy. And I love collecting all
- 58:07those beautiful Titanics on DHS. Do you have a goal in mind? One
- 58:13million? One million? When we're so close almost a three thousand right now,
- 58:16But if you get to a million, I don't foresee you being stopping
- 58:20at that point. Oh there's no stopping stop, there's no stopping dreams.
- 58:25Yeah, unthinkable, unsingable ship. I love it. Well, thank you
- 58:29so much for joining us. We really appreciate I really appreciate it, both
- 58:32of you. Thank you, thank you so much. Oh yeah, thank
- 58:36you all right, have a good night. Can you say Jack Dawson again
- 58:38for me? Jacked aaucin. I love it. I love it. All
- 58:44right, good night. We'll never let go, never let go, never
- 58:47let all right, bye bye. All right. So before we end the
- 58:57episode, we just want to give one one big thank you again to JD
- 59:00for coming out Titanic. Make sure you follow him. He's super funny,
- 59:04super great, and don't be stingy. Just send him Titanic on VHS.
- 59:09Yeah all right, because we're gonna be sending some because he's so great.
- 59:13If your grandma needs to decide between insulin or sending him VHS, do the
- 59:17VHS. Yeah, push her downstairs and uh send the VHS. But before
- 59:22we leave, we want to do that's so good. We wanted to do
- 59:25a retro reboot. That's the past. It's time to recast. It's retro.
- 59:37So number one is Cal. Who you have for Cal? Yeah you
- 59:43go first, you got this. I had Nicholas Holt. Oh, okay,
- 59:46all right and nobody So like, I went and I did some I
- 59:52did some real research on this, y'all, and I looked for people who
- 1:00:00wore under thirty. So Nicholas Holt, that is him. I think he
- 1:00:05looks like a has been Yeah, yeah, he's been in mad Max for
- 1:00:09Your Road, Warm Bodies Cage. He plays uh Pennywise. No, oh,
- 1:00:17he's Peter in The Great which is an amazing Hulu series. I cannot
- 1:00:23recommend that enough that got canceled, but it's great. Yeah, he was
- 1:00:30also in the menu, so anyway. Yeah, I think he is a
- 1:00:34good like Billy Zaanish type character, so obviously as good as Billy Zaye,
- 1:00:40but I don't think he'd good what Hey, hey, who did you have
- 1:00:50for Cal? For Cal? Okay, you're all gonna hate my choice,
- 1:00:53yep, sure are, but it'll make a little more sense when we get
- 1:00:58to Rose. Okay, okay, My my choice for Cal is Hwan McGregor.
- 1:01:01I love MacGregor thought, yeah, me too. Nothwan? Did you
- 1:01:07say win? Ali? I love? Though I like that, Andy says,
- 1:01:14just says, I think it's human. Well, Rhea says, how
- 1:01:16could you think that it was human? I thought I was wrong. I
- 1:01:21thought it was Hwan. After Ali said that, because Alex doesn't make too
- 1:01:23many mistakes, I'm saying it wrong for twenty bar really quick. When I
- 1:01:29do, I don't do voices of all of you, but when I do
- 1:01:31voices of you, I make Ali British. That's funny, like like I
- 1:01:37have like a frasier kind of like like a distinct like or like a distinguished,
- 1:01:40distinguished person because I'm smart. Yeah, I heard people were glasses and
- 1:01:45they all sound British. Yeah. If Poulepot was around, he would kill
- 1:01:51three of us. Is Poulpot? What you know is Cambodia, he killed
- 1:01:57two thirds of the population. Oh I should know that. It's anyways,
- 1:02:00he would kill people. He didn't like intellectuals and he thought having glasses was
- 1:02:02a sign of being smart, so he killed everybody that wore glasses. Was
- 1:02:06that the Rwanda? No, no, no, it's a Cameron Ruths from
- 1:02:14like the seventies. He died in the nineties. Okay, so my cow
- 1:02:16is one of my favorite actors. I love this person so much. And
- 1:02:21I just saw a movie called Don't Worry Dear, and he's in it,
- 1:02:23and he played a bad guy. I never seen him play a bad guy
- 1:02:25before, but Chris Pine. I think Chris Pine is so attractive, And
- 1:02:30after seeing that movie of a Don't Worry Darling, I was like, he
- 1:02:35can play an asshole and I think he would be great and anything he's in
- 1:02:39I think it's great. And I think Billy Zane is super attractive, so
- 1:02:44I think one of the people that could rival his attractiveness is Chris Pine.
- 1:02:47I love that choice too. Everyone's so far doing really good on this.
- 1:02:52Both of us, well, the three of you have gone, oh shit,
- 1:02:54sorry, I've I've had some wine. Oh so my numbers? Oh
- 1:03:01yeah, Ali said you, and Alix said Hughan McGregor, and then Rhea
- 1:03:07said Nick Holt, Yeah he was in Okay. So mine is somebody that
- 1:03:15has a such of Madonna's wild style is Candice Canberrat from Full House. Yeah,
- 1:03:24like stay with me. I feel like she has a typical, like
- 1:03:30a charming demeanor about herself, but she's very like has evil tendencies. And
- 1:03:36I think that her taking on maybe a role that's outside of full House could
- 1:03:42be really good for her to change her opinions on people. So I think
- 1:03:46it could be good because I do love full House and I watched Fuller House
- 1:03:50and I watch her Hallmark for I don't go up to the baby gay super
- 1:03:52gay bashy thing, but I watched her on Hallmark and stuff. No they
- 1:03:59started high, what so you're so fucking high? But she used to be
- 1:04:05on Hallmark, but they were too gay friendly for her. So then she
- 1:04:09bounced. So I just I don't know. Cann came and Brave Man.
- 1:04:11She's cool, all right. Next one is Rose. Oh sorry, so
- 1:04:19for a Rose I did and Jewelry Rice. She was in the mayor of
- 1:04:24East Town. Okay. Oh yes, yes, Oh my gosh, you're
- 1:04:30winning right now, thank you. Yeah. I think she'd be I think
- 1:04:33she would just be great. I think she's beautiful and she has that sort
- 1:04:36of younger look. And yeah, and since she has Kate Winslet seal of
- 1:04:44approval. Oh, they're remaking Titanic. Yeah, no, she's in.
- 1:04:50She's in a show with Kate Winslet. Oh okay, because yeah, they
- 1:04:55can't make a sequel. It's called Tutanic. That's pretty good. That's pretty
- 1:05:00good that it's a comedy or a really sad story about Titanic. Though,
- 1:05:04is you know there's waterproof areas in the Titanic. So for weeks after the
- 1:05:10Titanic saying people were petitioning like the government, but all like American you know,
- 1:05:15all of them to be like, hey you can go down. They
- 1:05:17might still be alive. How sad is that because a lot of people thought
- 1:05:20their family members are still alive in those waterproof things, and they're like they
- 1:05:25won't be. But that's so sad because so many people weren't found. They
- 1:05:29found about three hundred bodies altogether, and fifteen hundred died, so anyway,
- 1:05:32but they couldn't if we can barely get down there ourselves and they didn't know
- 1:05:36where it was either. Yeah they yeah, I mean, yeah, it's
- 1:05:41kim possible. Nice Okay, nice guys. I love the nice guys.
- 1:05:45That's why I love that movie. I think it's so fucking funny. Okay,
- 1:05:48Ali, who was your Rose? Okay, so my my Rose?
- 1:05:57So I missed the she was supposed to be seventeen. Obviously they're faked people,
- 1:06:03so in my situation, they're not children. But for my Rose,
- 1:06:10it would be Mary Elizabeth Winstead and and I picked Qun McGregor because they date
- 1:06:16in real life. They've also acted together in several roles and I think they're
- 1:06:21really fun, fun, dynamic, and after seeing Birds of Prey, Ewan
- 1:06:26McGregor is like so good at being a dick. Yeah, so I think
- 1:06:30you'd fit cal great. And then Mary Elizabeth Winsted is like fucking studying gorgeous,
- 1:06:34amazing actress. Be great. He replaced Bros. I thought you were
- 1:06:40talking about Michelle Dockery for a second. I don't know who that is.
- 1:06:43She's Mary from Mammy. Oh, oh my god. I love her.
- 1:06:46I love Mary like I love her. She is the perfect I know who.
- 1:06:51That's a complex character. Okay, Andy, So I chose I might.
- 1:06:57I'm probably gonna say her last name wrong, Kara Delavigny, Delavingi,
- 1:07:05DeLavigne. Is that how you's saying. I don't know her said last name?
- 1:07:09Uh? But I think she can play somebody who's really meek, and
- 1:07:12she can also play someone who's really powerful. So I think that's kind of
- 1:07:14the dynamic between with Rose is. I think she at the beginning, she's
- 1:07:17kind of meat because she's trapped, but then later on the movie she becomes
- 1:07:23strong and breaks away. So and it's funny that you brought a Birds of
- 1:07:26Prey because I was thinking the suicide Squad when she plays really scared and then
- 1:07:30when she plays really tough, you know. So yeah, Kara Devil delived
- 1:07:33in it. Yeah, I think delvine Yeah, so that's what I got
- 1:07:38for Rose. I think Rose would be a good poison Ivy. Yeah,
- 1:07:44like if they went like more like would be a good do you mean Kate
- 1:07:46Winslow or do you mean a Rose would be a good Poison? No?
- 1:07:50I think how how DC movies are leading are getting out of the campy and
- 1:07:55getting more dark and real. She would be an interesting choice for Poison Ivy.
- 1:08:04Yeah, and Kiss from a Rose was a song for Batman Forever Seal
- 1:08:12coincidence. I don't know, Okay, my Rose is Nev Campbell Nev like
- 1:08:21I want her to be in a Titanic movie that isn't Blood and Steel.
- 1:08:27I'm not dissonant. I haven't seen it yet, but can you see that
- 1:08:30poster so far? Well, well, Billy Zane's not on the poster,
- 1:08:32but the scenes with Cameron Canvas Candace Cameron Beret is like going off on whoever
- 1:08:38the actress. I just said, Okay, so that's my Rose. Wait,
- 1:08:44so Rose and Cal they're gay? Then yeah, I'm making Candace Cameron
- 1:08:49Beret gay because she's gonna have a come to share moment and like turn out
- 1:08:55to be like pro gay. So then is Jazz? I was like,
- 1:08:59I'm just jacko jack is okay? Riha who drum roll? Who's your Jack
- 1:09:08Jack is Tom Holland, Oh, sure, that's a good you know,
- 1:09:12that's a really good one. That one makes sense. I didn't even think
- 1:09:15about that. That's a good one for so Tom Holland, Nick Holt and
- 1:09:20Rice. Yeah, so far, I'm like in yours is I'm watching that,
- 1:09:26I know because I picked good Can I know what I'm doing? All
- 1:09:30right, Allie, so far is winning. But she's the only one that's
- 1:09:32finished. So picking Jack Dawson. Yeah, Jack Dawson, Jack Dollson,
- 1:09:38Baby my Jack Dawson will be Sir sha Nan, who is that? What's
- 1:09:45the lady bird? Little Women? Uh, Timothy Chalamagne, I just saw
- 1:09:54that movie. Yeah, wait, you're picking an actor from Little Women and
- 1:09:59not till it Isham Sharonan. Yeah yeah it's Irish s a Oh I are
- 1:10:10okay, I see it now. Yeah, that's that's wonderful for sure.
- 1:10:14So lesbian action between Mary Elizabeth win Said and Sir Ronan, Oh her yeah
- 1:10:19cool, just pretty free. No, we should be Jack. Yeah,
- 1:10:26I fucking love that. Look at us being like we're representing our our uh
- 1:10:30P flag or whatever like LGBT right here. I love this. Yeah,
- 1:10:33uh huh okay and that's so great. Andy is Kenzie scale, so it
- 1:10:41might be a little more than that. Okay, Andy, go so for
- 1:10:45Jack, I got uh said the last name again. I don't know why
- 1:10:48I don't know these two's last names. Barry Cogan, he was the main
- 1:10:53character from Saltburn. I think he's I think he's attractive, but in a
- 1:10:57different way, and I think, oh no, I don't know. I
- 1:11:00don't think he's hideous. I think he's attractive, but I think he's like
- 1:11:04in the so in some of his movies, he doesn't look that attractive.
- 1:11:09I think it's the characters he's playing. But then if you just like google
- 1:11:12him, you see him like on the Red Carpet, and you're like,
- 1:11:14oh, okay, So I think but he's a different type of attractive than
- 1:11:16Leo was. But I think Barry and Kara together would be dynamite because I
- 1:11:21think they're both good actors. And I think he did really good in Saltburn,
- 1:11:29and I would hope that in the Titanic scene you see his dick flopping
- 1:11:31around everywhere. Damn it, here's the thing he's damn it. He sort
- 1:11:36of like, can't kill damn it. I think that movies need to have
- 1:11:46more unique looking actors playing. Yeah, like I don't need to watch I
- 1:11:53don't know who's Joel Crowe like that kind of beauty on everything. She's beautiful,
- 1:11:58so Barrys, Okay, my general is fucking gorgeous. Like if she
- 1:12:06was are you kidding me? If she was an office manager? Like A
- 1:12:11like A, no's just in general. She's so beautiful. She works you
- 1:12:18like if you go to the chiropractor, she's the one who's married to the
- 1:12:21chiropractor doctor. Like, yeah, she's gorgeous. He's a white mid white
- 1:12:28woman mid. No way, anybody that can date is top tier's armstrong.
- 1:12:34He won the n B A. Yeah, we'll go that round. There's
- 1:12:40something new with the ball. Jesus, I think you know. I'm just
- 1:12:48sending you a picture right now. Fucking girl, Oh my god, she
- 1:12:54is so beautiful, her hair, her skin, her voice. She was
- 1:12:58about the lil the like if you go if you can go time Machine,
- 1:13:06if you go to time Machine and you go to Lilith Fair, you're gonna
- 1:13:10be like, she's sucking awesome. No, she's not gay, she's I
- 1:13:14don't you know how many guys I check out that on a daily basis they're
- 1:13:16not gay. I don't think, though she seems like she was kind of.
- 1:13:23Yeah, she hung out with Paula Cole and Sarah McLaughlin and Jewel.
- 1:13:27Yeah, I think that too, got in on the end of that.
- 1:13:31Okay, No, was a diva so diva divas did not have Sheryl Crow.
- 1:13:40Okay, it doesn't matter. My point is there's two types of artists
- 1:13:43in the nineties. There's Lilith Fair and there's divas. Divas are Aretha Franklin
- 1:13:46in the nineties, Mariah Carey, Celine h Gloria Stefan. Okay, okay,
- 1:13:57wait, wait, wait, wait, one more question, Ali,
- 1:13:58Is is a glory as Stefan? A diva like official diva, like the
- 1:14:02VH one diva? Yes? Are you just saying in general like diva?
- 1:14:09Both? Is she star power diva? And was she a part of the
- 1:14:11VH one divos? I don't think she was part of the VH one divas.
- 1:14:15And no, she's like a one hit wonder. Yeah, you're gonna
- 1:14:18put her in the same boat as Aretha Franklin. No, no, no,
- 1:14:21no, what is she was the queen Diva? She is the Queen
- 1:14:25Diva. Sidebar I'm obsessed, like like obsessed, like like creepy Jack Dawson,
- 1:14:29obsessed with the divas. Oh and I've Gloria. Someone was a diva
- 1:14:36on the on the Diva's Live and she was on the second year. I'll
- 1:14:40take this out to you, but before you leave, can I show you
- 1:14:42an Aretha Franklin live performance. That's my favorite thing of all time. Are
- 1:14:45you doing it? No, I'm not gonna sing it. Oh okay,
- 1:14:50my number one pick or my number one pick? Okay, my Jack Dawson
- 1:14:55pick. I'm going out there because I'm thinking I'm getting older, time to
- 1:15:00reinvent myself. I think I'm gonna get into filmmaking and being in movies.
- 1:15:05So I'm gonna cast myself. That's yeah. I'm going with Jeff Keller and
- 1:15:11then my co stars Nef Campbell, which will totally make sense. And then
- 1:15:16and then my scenes. Oh wait, I'm Jack not Rose. Okay,
- 1:15:20If I'm Jack, then my scenes, Oh no, I want to be
- 1:15:24Rose. Fuck that I'm Rose now? But then who's Campbell? Yeah?
- 1:15:29But then Jack is played by a girl though, but then Jack's a girl
- 1:15:31though. Anyways, Okay, so yes, let's do wrong, Let's do
- 1:15:41the bonus round Bonus round. Who would play Molly Keithy Bates? Who would
- 1:15:46play Molly Kathy Bates? I went with Kristin Chenow with oh oh yeah,
- 1:15:53okay, I think she is just I think she has that Southern like sass
- 1:16:00and charm and she can sing like like not that male brown saying, but
- 1:16:05like I just feel like she's so she would just be great at being like
- 1:16:10bless your heart. Mm hmm. Your cast is fucking five stars. Well
- 1:16:16done, Allie. Who is your Kathy Bates? I didn't pick one.
- 1:16:21I don't remember. I think we're doing Kathy Bates and I don't know.
- 1:16:26I can't think of it. Okay, question, all right, I'll go.
- 1:16:29Next tent I got for my Kathy Bates is going to be Tyler Perry
- 1:16:33as Media Hello, just that character though, as Kathy Baits, not as
- 1:16:44Molly toown brown Town, but just as Kathy Bass. Tyler Perry play be
- 1:16:48playing Medea playing Kathy Baits. Look you get it. You know what?
- 1:17:00Actually, who who would play Molly? And mine is Ady Bryant because I
- 1:17:02love a She's so amazing. Yeah for sure, I love that so much.
- 1:17:09You know who I would choose? She that would be because Mollie's kind
- 1:17:15of the comic. Really, she has a couple of biers here and there,
- 1:17:17and oh she was amazing. Like, I agree with Ali's earlier statement.
- 1:17:21I feel like this was primo primo Kathy Bates time, Like this came
- 1:17:26out after Misery and Fright Green Tomatoes and like that she was already a nominated
- 1:17:32Yeah, win, a winner. I'm like Jana Darryl ray So, No,
- 1:17:38I agree, these are really great ones. I love this, Thank
- 1:17:40you anything else we wanted to chat about. No, I was not high
- 1:17:49enough for this fucking episode. Chaotic. It was very an experimental episode.
- 1:17:58No, I say, like it was such a monumental film of the nineties,
- 1:18:02so it'd may be definitely blinders not to mention it much on the podcast.
- 1:18:08So does anyone have any him to promote. I'll go first. I
- 1:18:12just want to, Oh, you go ahead. Sorry, I just want
- 1:18:14to apologize everybody, because if you were excited to like hear about Idea the
- 1:18:21actual film, am I a discussion? Damn? Yeah? I know it
- 1:18:30was crazy. Was a really chaotic episode. We're going to get a review.
- 1:18:33Huh, We're going to get a review. Yeah, I love it
- 1:18:38about I don't know. It's fine as long as we talk about it.
- 1:18:43What they're talking about is exactly what that's that's the point. Like if who's
- 1:18:46listening to everyone, who's everyone's listening to this has seen the movie. I
- 1:19:00I do think we have to do a separate episode where we actually put an
- 1:19:02effort into reviewing the movie Titanic in nineteen ninety seven. I think we sidebar.
- 1:19:09I think we do another episode where we review this episode. That's not
- 1:19:13bad idea. Oh yeah, yeah, So I just wanted to promote the
- 1:19:16Averagers just got done with season one. It's a lot of fun that all
- 1:19:21rhymed that was not by on purpose, So check that out. And then
- 1:19:27I also just really want to promote a Titanic fan underscore ninety seven. Like
- 1:19:31I said earlier, I didn't know Jeff and I were both following this person.
- 1:19:34I've been following him for like a year and a half or something,
- 1:19:36and I love all his videos. Like Jeff said earlier, always makes you
- 1:19:41laugh. Send him some God Damn Titanic on VHS. Yeah, but I
- 1:19:46learned, and I didn't know. I know that he's anto Titanic, so
- 1:19:49I did my research there. Yeah, you did I killed me? Okay,
- 1:19:57Ali, do you having him to promote? No, you don't know.
- 1:20:01I don't want people who listen to me in this episode find me elsewhere.
- 1:20:06This is not me at a hundreds. If you want to look at
- 1:20:10pictures of my dog, you can look at my dog, Gus Gus.
- 1:20:13He's a Chihuahua. I take pictures of him. Nothing special, but it's
- 1:20:15also the super special team at gus Gas underscore the dog on Instagram, and
- 1:20:21that's pretty much it. I'm gonna probably like not get super blazed before this
- 1:20:29maybe, but maybe this is a good episode to do that too. Get
- 1:20:32blazed before what before you take a picture of your dog? Okay, we've
- 1:20:40already recorded that. If you're listening to this, stop what you're doing,
- 1:20:45rewind it and get blazed makes yeah, okay, we do anything to say
- 1:20:53no. All right? Well, and uh, until next time. I'm
- 1:20:58Jeff, I'm a Dawson, I'm Alikammy, Henri. We'll see you next
- 1:21:04time. On Notable Nostalgia the Nicholas Cage of podcasts, Let's say that Notable
- 1:21:14Nostalgia is a production of Big Door Prize Media. You can find us links
- 1:21:17to our social pages and other podcasts on the network at Bigdoor Prize dot com
- 1:21:23slash podcasts. This podcast is produced by me Ali and edited by both myself
- 1:21:28and Andy. Our logo was created by Aaronughock of uglyhawk dot com. If
- 1:21:32you can share with a friend or leave us review so more folks can find
- 1:21:35us. Thanks for listening Big Door, Big Prizemedia