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O'Brien & Doug S5:E4 [December 9, 2021 The BEST decade of music] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_06: Yo, yo, this is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_06: Why don't you be down in the basement with a little friend?
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm O'Brien.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm Jenny Breck.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not James Doug.
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SPEAKER_02: Season five, episode four.
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SPEAKER_02: Four.
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SPEAKER_02: Four.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been four.
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SPEAKER_02: We are back live in the fun dungeon.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm back in the fun dungeon.
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SPEAKER_00: After three, four weeks now.
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SPEAKER_02: It's uh it looks the same.
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SPEAKER_02: If you well, it's a little cut a little more cluttered.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a little cluttered and discombobulated because this is it looks like a hobo's been living in it.
1:17
SPEAKER_02: This was my this was my home.
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SPEAKER_00: It was your home.
1:21
SPEAKER_02: If you missed the uh the last episode, uh it was revealed that I had COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um this was this was your it was it was the not the fun dungeon, it was the COVID dungeon.
1:30
SPEAKER_02: It was the not so fun dungeon, that's for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And so there's still I got I got all the bottles out of here.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh I had like uh all kinds of water bottles and gator eight bottles and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_02: So I got all those out of there.
1:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, it's still it's still kind of it's still kind of a mess.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I went back to work uh last week and I just, you know, when I get home from work, I'm still extremely tired in so I just kind of crash.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh and I have full intentions of of of helping with housework or coming down here and cleaning the fun dungeon for when you come over.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I just I just I I'm feeling pretty good right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh but um after I get home from school because I work with kids all day.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just beat.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
2:14
SPEAKER_02: So I crash.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: I I you know, because we've both worked in education.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So I think that's a lot of people that have never worked in education don't realize.
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SPEAKER_00: They think, oh, that's such a cushy job, all you do is hang out with kids.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's like, heck no, dude.
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SPEAKER_08: No.
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SPEAKER_00: That's it's rough, man.
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SPEAKER_00: It takes a lot, it drains you mentally more than anything, I think.
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SPEAKER_02: You want to talk about uh the people that are the most underpaid, uh, I I think uh American military and teachers.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that it you know, people don't realize I gotta get your summers off.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you don't.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a myth.
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SPEAKER_00: That is a myth.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're you're constant, it's a constant uh, you know, is you're you know, you're constantly taking classes and you gotta do this and you gotta do that, and you gotta get certified for this and that.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's just like it's a constant grind.
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SPEAKER_00: It sure is.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe you're not you're not at the school teaching actively, but yeah, you're still working, man.
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SPEAKER_02: And you're dealing with different things every day.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, different behaviors, different um attitudes, different um just things that come up.
3:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I were, you know, I worked in special ed.
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SPEAKER_02: Which is a high burnout rate.
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SPEAKER_00: It is a high burnout rate, and I never realized why until I did it.
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SPEAKER_00: Until I did it.
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SPEAKER_00: I went, yeah, I get it, man, because there's no like typical day.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, the kid that was doing great yesterday is gonna have a complete melt, you know, meltdown to it's just like you don't know what's coming.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: And some really I mean, it's it's it's it's the most frustrating job you'll ever have, but it's also it can be the most rewarding job you can ever have.
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SPEAKER_02: I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep, you know, I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: And and I do it because I love the kids.
3:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, the kids are uh I'm working with elementary kids and they're just they're really fun.
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SPEAKER_00: My favorite, my favorite, my favorite memory of when I was working, I was working with a kid named Steve, and uh I was teaching him about uh he had to do something on the three branches of the federal government.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So I was explaining to him how they all work and what they all do, and you know, because that's my forte, that's what my degree is in.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, and he's just looking at me, he's just staring at me.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm gonna say, you know, in my brain, I'm like, I went completely over this kid's head.
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SPEAKER_08: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So then he looks at me and he goes, You know, Mr.
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SPEAKER_00: Coggite, you're smarter than you look.
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SPEAKER_00: And he didn't mean it that way, he meant it like you're really smart, right?
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SPEAKER_00: But the way he said it, and as soon as he said it, his eyes got really big.
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SPEAKER_00: He was like, No, that's not what I mean.
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SPEAKER_00: And by that time, I am laughing my head.
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SPEAKER_00: I almost fell out of my seat.
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SPEAKER_00: I was laughing so hard.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And I missed that kid.
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SPEAKER_00: I he passed away a few years ago.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, did he?
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's too bad.
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SPEAKER_00: Just a freak accident or a surgery.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but he was the sweetest kid, and I still love it.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh it's my all-time favorite memory of working at the uh with kids.
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SPEAKER_02: So Yeah, it's it's it's pretty great.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I d yesterday I had a I was helping with this one kid uh prepare for a test and it was multiplication and division.
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SPEAKER_02: And admittedly, he's he's a a challenging kid, behavior-wise, and just I don't I don't think I don't I don't know the whole history, but there's there's some some baggage there.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: And and so I'm working with him and he's a bright kid, but he tries to get away with stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep so I'll be like, so um what's uh so what's eight times four?
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SPEAKER_02: Twenty-seven.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh nope, try again.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh 52.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, are you just like throwing numbers out?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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unknown: No.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: No, what's what's eight times four?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh 75.
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SPEAKER_08: And you can't help but laugh.
5:49
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I know, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, no, listen, bud.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, eight times, and then we had to we worked it out, you know, and he finally, he finally got it because I I made him start from the bottom and work up.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh, but it you know, it's little things like that.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, I just love it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like but sometimes like a backfire because you laugh, they'll just milk it.
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SPEAKER_02: And they do.
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SPEAKER_02: And they do.
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SPEAKER_02: But I, you know, I am that's one of the reasons.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I see I I build relationships with kids.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, and that's one of the things that I like the most about teaching.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, but it's also there's a drawback to it because um that while they like you and respect you, they think they can get things over on you, exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, all the time.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm a pushover, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Big time.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's I I gotta work on that.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: That's there are worse things to be, man.
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SPEAKER_02: That's true.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh so it's good to be back in the fun dungeon.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh bleep, bleep, bleep.
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SPEAKER_00: What are you laughing at, pig boy?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh see, usually I do that to you and you called me out on it.
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SPEAKER_02: I know, I gotcha.
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SPEAKER_02: I gotcha.
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unknown: I gotcha.
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SPEAKER_02: So um I wanted to talk about because uh we last week we talked about uh the Beatles um documentary.
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SPEAKER_02: Get back.
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SPEAKER_02: Get back.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh did you watch the whole thing now?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So I started to uh well, let me back up.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't haven't watched it yet.
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SPEAKER_02: Any of it?
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I w I was going to on Sunday afternoon.
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SPEAKER_02: Um because I went to I I went to um my daughter's Sunday school because the parent has to go for the sacraments class, and so so I was sitting there and the teacher of the Sunday school, uh his name's John, he's he starts talking to me about it because he knows I'm into music because I'm gonna do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: He says, Have you seen the Beatles documentary?
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, No, I haven't yet.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been I've been waiting to f you know wanting to find the time to do it.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, My buddy's been telling me all about it, and and he was so he starts talking about it.
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SPEAKER_02: And then the one of the dads that I'm sitting next to, um he starts he he hasn't watched it, but he knows like words to all these Beatles songs.
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SPEAKER_02: And he's I'm f gonna be 48 next week.
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SPEAKER_02: He is probably 34.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean he's he's younger, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And he might even be he might even be 29, he might even be still in his twenties.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh this father I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but he knows all the words to all these Beatles songs, and he brought up a pretty cool point.
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SPEAKER_02: Um so before I get to that point, I started to watch it Sunday afternoon.
8:20
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna do the dishes.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh my wife had taken the kids somewhere else in the afternoon, so I was home alone.
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SPEAKER_02: Football was on, uh, and I was like, oh, I'm gonna try and watch this.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: So I got my iPad uh out by the kitchen sink and I start filling up the sink and I start watching the documentary.
8:37
SPEAKER_02: And I got through to when they first because the whole beginning part is like a recap of the Beatles.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And um when they finally get to this uh rehearsal studio, this warehouse or whatever, and they're complaining about it, you know how it's like, I don't like the sound in here, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_02: That's as far as I got because I got so weak and tired that I couldn't even do the dishes.
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SPEAKER_02: So I went and laid down, turned on some football.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: My wife came home and she's like, What happened to the dishes?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm sorry, I couldn't do this.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um, so I didn't get to watch it, but I watched a little bit of it.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: And the reason I bring it up is because this other dad um he he uh said something, and then John, the teacher, agreed with him, and I agreed with him too.
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SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if we've ever talked about it.
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SPEAKER_02: Um he said uh I I I think that music, the the best music came from the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Like the best, like if you if you like 60 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and on, he said that the most uh where the horizons were broadened the most was in the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I th I I kind of agree with that.
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SPEAKER_02: Um and then John Bonner said the same thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And then this other lady, this mom that sits next to me, she's from Scotland, she says, all of her children, that's all they listen to, is the Bee Gees, the Beatles, all stuff from well from the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Not the not the 60s Bee Gees, but the 70s Bee Gees.
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SPEAKER_02: Um I mean you had because you had disco, you had um singer-songwriter James Taylor stuff, yeah, you had hard rock like Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, yeah, Van Halen.
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SPEAKER_02: Van Halen, um you had Boston, yeah.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: Um and you had you had soft rock like America, Bread, Christopher Cross, right?
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SPEAKER_02: And so as I'm thinking about this, I'm like, wow, I mean, I love the 60s.
10:55
SPEAKER_02: I love the 50s.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: The 50s was was an and I'm I want to get your take on this.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: The 50s was uh like here's the drawing board, we're gonna do it this way, and then just do it that way from that point on.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of the 50s music, although it's great, it was written by the same people.
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SPEAKER_02: Right, and it sounds the same.
11:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And not that that's bad because it's all great.
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SPEAKER_02: 60s, kind of the same thing, uh to a to a degree, but there was a lot more, especially with the Beatles, branching out.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, like Well, I think the Beatles were the catalyst for that.
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SPEAKER_02: I agree.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you had the Brill Building songwriters, Neil Diamond, Carol King, and Paul Anko, and it was it was formulaic, but it was pop music and it was catchy.
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SPEAKER_02: Motown, you had Motown.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, right, which the Beatles were all fans of.
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SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: And so that's how the Beatles started, listening to the Brill Building songwriters and and the Buddy Hollies and and the Everly Brothers from the 50s.
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SPEAKER_02: And they started building their catalog, but they were learning from those people in the 60s.
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SPEAKER_02: And then when they decided, well, we're not gonna tour anymore because nobody's listening, we're just gonna record.
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SPEAKER_02: That's when they went and there was no limits.
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SPEAKER_02: And you're right, I think they were the catalysts in the late 60s and early 70s, because the the last one was like 70, right?
12:21
SPEAKER_02: Was 1970?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I think Abbey Road came out in 70.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um and then McCartney's first solo album was like 71.
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SPEAKER_02: It was shortly after that.
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SPEAKER_02: So and then you had the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I'm gonna shut up in a second.
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SPEAKER_02: And then you had the 80s, which was a lot like the 70s, but with different technology.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was more computer-driven.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um the synth sound and so the eighties every every decade kind of has uh their formulaic music.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh 90s was grunge and and you know, things like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but and then the 2000s, I don't even know what to say about the 2000s and on.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's it it's just it's like the universe, it's expanding at such a rate that he just nobody can keep up anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I started excuse me, I started to think about what what this dad was was talking about.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think he may be right.
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SPEAKER_02: I think the 70s, I gotta take a drink of tea here.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_03: COVID.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like people like, Kobe! You got COVID!
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SPEAKER_02: Um you know, I think because I don't listen to a lot of 70s.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean I I do when you probably listen to more of it than you think.
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SPEAKER_02: That's true, because I listen to Sirius XM.
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SPEAKER_02: So I listen to I listen to Classic Rewind, which has some stuff from the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I listen to uh uh Yacht Rock, which obviously eighties.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Um I listen to um um Aussie's uh Boneyard, which which is a lot of that is uh hard rock from like Deep Purple and and and Black Sabbath and stuff like that, which is the 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Um so I I that's the only time that I think I really listen to it, but I because I listen to a lot of 80s, I listen to um 60s, you know, and and and and whatnot.
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SPEAKER_02: But you're right, I d I probably hear more 70s than I think I hear.
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SPEAKER_02: Um but if you listen to the classic rock stations, that's all they're playing is 70s.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: 70s and 80s.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: You know?
14:43
SPEAKER_02: Um but what is your take on that?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, well, uh if you had to pick, and this is popular music, this isn't jazz, this isn't blues, yeah, anything like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I mean uh jazz and blues had their breakout artists in the 70s as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Well I wouldn't I wouldn't say that.
15:04
SPEAKER_00: Well, Muddy Waters was still going in the 70s.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, they've been still going, but they jazz and blues are like a different vein.
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SPEAKER_02: I agree.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, because I mean jazz is I mean, both of them have been around for decades before they even became popular.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, before I mean the earli one of the earliest recordings of blues is, you know, like Robert Johnson back in 1932, 33.
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SPEAKER_02: 33, 34, something.
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SPEAKER_00: I think I think it I think he recorded just before he died, and then they're playing his music after, and then they didn't know he passed away.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: Right.
15:40
SPEAKER_00: They were like, oh, we gotta find this guy, and he's like, Oh, he's already dead too late, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: So I mean they went on this different main, but but when you get into like you know, when you started talking about the 50s, they're doing this all formulaic stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, they're going back on what people were doing in the 30s and the 40s.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, with the uh, you know, the you know, the the that swing, that big band.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the uptown.
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SPEAKER_02: The roaring twenties or the yeah, yeah, swinging up.
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SPEAKER_00: So they're taking their they're taking their cues off of that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: They're they're making it their own.
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SPEAKER_00: They're and they're trying to make it, you know, they're making a formulaic, but they're trying to make it more pop, you know, more, you know, make it for more for the kids.
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SPEAKER_00: That continued into the 60s, but then the Beatles go, ah, screw that.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: We've got to do our own thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: So they were doing it up to a certain they were writing their own stuff and they were making pop music to a certain degree.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: But when they stopped touring and they just recorded, that's when thing ever that was the uh like I said, that was the catalyst.
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SPEAKER_02: Because they were experimenting.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they they could, you know, they weren't they didn't have to tour, they didn't all they could all they had to do was write and record.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, you got plenty of time to do whatever you I mean, they spent how I mean they would spend months and months on one song.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Just just recording and trying different things.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, when you get to the 70s, they've kind of perfected these techniques and they're like, oh yeah, the technology keeps getting better.
17:01
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: So now all these all the hey, well, the Beatles this, let's try, oh hey, what the what was that?
17:06
SPEAKER_08: Right.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, so it just kept expanding.
17:08
SPEAKER_00: And then the 80s come along, more technology, more expansion.
17:11
SPEAKER_08: Right.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: 90s come along, more expansion.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just it's just like I said, it's like the universe, it just keeps expanding, and people just can't, you can't like like now you can't pigeonhole you know music.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: It's true.
17:23
SPEAKER_02: And because we talk we've talked about this before, too, people don't listen to uh music the same way that they used to.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, we don't even listen to music the same way.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Not really.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: And and maybe bands like them, or maybe bands that are lumped into the into that, you know that we started off, well, you know, like you know, my first record, I I think I've said this before, was the 19 uh was the jump 45.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
17:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, that was my first rock well, it was one of my first rock records.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
17:58
SPEAKER_00: I ever got when I was a kid.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: I think mine was Brian Adams, wasn't it?
18:01
SPEAKER_02: Reckless.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: I think.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: So I got that.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: And of course, you know, you're like, whoa, you know.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: Because I was listening to my my parents, like they had the Beach Boys, they had uh Johnny Horton, who wasn't a rock guy, but he was a you know, it was more like a folk singer.
18:13
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
18:14
SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, I was listening to stuff like that, Charlie Daniels band.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, stuff like I was that's the stuff I was listening to.
18:20
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Until I discovered Van Halen.
18:22
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: And then when I discovered Van Halen, of course, you discover I started, you know, listening to more of the Harry, you know, like Motley Crue, Dawkins.
18:28
SPEAKER_08: Yep.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: And then that led me into Metallica.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: I got my first Metallica, you know, the Injustice for All.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: And then that was just like, whoa, I'm listening to Satan music now, you know.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: So for me it was it was Brian Adams Reckless, and and right around that same time was Michael Jackson's thriller.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: And I had the I had the whole the full LP, you know, the fold-out LP of a Michael Jackson's thriller and in Chicago.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, I was big into Chicago as well.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: And you know, um then I got into I think you got me into Chicago.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I think uh and and then like you, I discovered Van Halen.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: Um and it was it was that was the the rest of my life right there.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: It was Van Halen.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: I think you know, I can you know, my you know, like I got into Van Halen, but the first album I ever bought on my own was 84.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: No.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: No?
19:18
SPEAKER_02: No, it was Tears for Fears.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Tears for Fears.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: That was the first album I ever bought myself.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because Van Halen was a gift.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it was like a Christmas present or a birthday present, I can't remember which.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: But the first rock rec you know, record of rock music I ever got myself, it was a cassette, it was Tears for Fears.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Songs from the Big Chair.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: Songs from the Big Chair, yeah.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: I was just gonna say.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: Um But I but I I can say that Van Halen was was the jumping off point for my you know No pun intended.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: I just got that.
19:50
SPEAKER_02: You might as well jump.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: Might as well jump.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Jump.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, but you know, I mean, like I said, I was listening to the Beach Boys, but I was listening to this early 60s, right?
19:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, because it was the it was the endless summer compilation.
20:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
20:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't want to talk about it.
20:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got that too.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I found it, I actually found it at KMH and I was like, whoa, I've been listening to this album for years, man.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I was pretty excited.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: And that was and that was the also the record that I discovered harmonies.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: I can't sing harmonies very well.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you can.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, I can, but I can but I really can't do it all anyway.
20:22
SPEAKER_00: But uh but that's when I discovered harmonies.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: There was like, oh yeah, this guy's singing this part, this guy's singing this part, this guy's singing this part, they all go together.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: Oh, as a kid, that like blows your mind.
20:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I mean?
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
20:34
SPEAKER_00: But Van Halen was definitely my jumping off point into rock.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
20:39
SPEAKER_02: So let's go back to this then, because if you take out if you take out the nostalgia aspect of it, because we all have our preferences.
20:50
SPEAKER_02: Right.
20:51
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean I love stuff from the eighties just because it was one of my favorite times of my life was when I was a kid and it was doing fun stuff and listening to music.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: And so so the eighties, as a songwriter, I like a certain, you know, era or certain style of music.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Um but and and I again, this is subjective, but what this dad said was he thinks the music in the 70s and and we listen to Professor of Rock every once in a while, or we watch Professor of Rock.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I like that guy.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: He, Adam Reeder is is the guy's name, I think he attests that the eighties had had the best music.
21:35
SPEAKER_02: I think he's I think if I remember right, John Mayer was speaking at Oxford University in England.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: And I think he said the same thing.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: He said the music in the eighties was more sophisticated.
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: Because you know, you had certain, you know, uh point and counterpoint in in in the music, and there was there was differ different movements and different in and competing melodies and there was just more stuff uh in in a lot of the music and so he I think he also says like the 80s was the best era of music but again he's close to our age yeah and it could be a nostalgia thing yeah so if you had to strip away uh all subjectivity and and kind of look at it analytically is there a best era best decade of music is there one can you strip away the subjectivity I don't think you really can I I think I I don't think you can be uh you know um not subjective right I mean because uh every every decade has its own thing I mean I could see the 70s things because that's when a lot of people were just like you know there was different things blowing up I don't think punk came out in the 70s right disco came out in the 70s you know hard rock was still you know Van Halen made rock cool again right you know um you know but there was also you know jazz was still going the blues were still going in the 70s I mean they've they've been the two constants throughout history right you know plus this you know and I think you know the Americana um like John Hyatt type sunger songwriters they came out of the blues and jazz vein you know what I'm saying in the 70s in the 70s yeah yeah that's when they came into their own because it was like it was expanding it wasn't just like you know you know Warner Brothers is putting this out and you know MCA is putting this out and Capitol is putting this out it was like hey we can do whatever we want now right you know it was it was just that period of like let's do whatever we want you know that was the 70s I mean it was the age of swingers it was you know come on I mean so the music had to go the same way you just sounded like uh um John Madden Oh my god he's got mud in his jersey that means there's less mud on the field sorry I had to point that out that's funny um yeah I when you run for you go faster uh I um yeah I I agree uh every decade had its its thing that the seventies had a lot I mean it was an amalgamation of styles because people were trying different things.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I mean that was really what the seventies were about was just like experimentation.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: And you but you could could you say the same thing about the eighties because you had New Wave you had rap music that was just coming on right?
24:50
SPEAKER_00: Well I mean late seventies late seventies rap started coming out right but I mean it was like the eighties but the 80s made it it got exploded in the 80s.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Yep um and and you also had in the 80s you had um you you still had the singer-songwriter stuff yeah um but you also had hairband you you also had th uh metal you said Metallica came out in the 80s well no well I mean their first album was what eighty one that's what I mean yeah yeah something like that so I mean you had like Thrash basically but they but they came out of the British new wave of of heavy metal that came out you know in the which was in the 70s was in the 70s right so and Def Leopard was actually they came out of that was actually in that fold and a lot of people don't know that but they came out the the new wave of um British heavy metal yeah um yeah that's what I meant to say yeah and it was um on through the night and and high and dry was the 80s but on through the night was like 79 79 something like that something like that.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: But I mean I don't know I not that we have to say there was a better decade.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't I just I think it's just oh you know whatever whatever's most you know most nostalgic for you that's that's the decade you're you can't you can't strip away the nostalgia can you I mean that's that's so intertwined with music nostalgia because you know at a certain point we became our parents when we said they just I mean they don't make music like they used to yeah I say that all the time and I remember my parents saying I mean I remember playing Van Halen for my dad and my dad was like what is that what the hell is this crap?
26:25
SPEAKER_00: You know I don't I don't want nobody does that screaming and I'm like you know some good music play Apache 65 and now I you know I you know people put this stuff they put it online and I'm like what the hell's this crap what is this I can crap a better song than this I'm like sometimes holy crap I'm my father it's true you know and and to um and I we used to laugh at my dad because every time we played music for my dad he'd be like what is this what is this listen to this this is good stuff in other words the exact time and now we're just like yeah my boys now I get my dad my boys at least um so so my kids are kind of uh just all over the place so so a l uh my oldest daughter who not to get off on a tangent but I was thinking about this over the weekend uh because my youngest says oh at this uh the Sunday school thing they had to put like you know who's your trusted adult let's let's some trusted adults you know and it was dad mom and and her older sister was one right and I not to get off but uh my oldest is an adult.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah she's she's a grown up and I I don't know when the hell that happened.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: I think I think she's more grown up than we are.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: I think she is too anyway so to get back to that so she likes to listen to a lot of um pop stuff she listens to Christian music you know my my oldest boy believe it or not and I think I've asked you this do you th can you guess what kind of music he's into?
28:08
SPEAKER_02: I think we've talked about this.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: Have we?
28:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah I really don't know.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: You don't know my oldest boy, although he likes a lot of the newer stuff too but he uh listens to Sinatra Buble.
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Really?
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah I never would have guessed that yeah and I I mean it was just like that's he'll walk around like uh when he was here he's in college now but he'd walk around the house singing that stuff right it just and and if you get in his car and you turn on his his uh you know radio or whatever that's what he's listening to is like Michael Boobley.
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Really?
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah I I wouldn't have guessed that uh which is cool yeah um and uh so my uh my other um my eighth grader he listens to a lot of the newer stuff that sounds like the they're crying you know like um what's the guy's name James something I don't know a lot of these new a lot of this new music is just kind of sad and um so he listens to that but he also likes um my stuff The Beatles Deaf Leopard um Bon Jovi Which side is this this is the eighth grader oh okay number three number three um so he'll like he'll put his playlist but my boys listen to the radio when they go to bed at night yeah and my sixth grader likes Q96.1 and everything that's on there um Olivia Rodrigo um just um what's the I can't see I don't even know any of these I I don't even listen to that anymore radioactive radioactive he listens to all the new stuff and um my music is just you know crap right and my youngest she just kind of listens to whatever but it's it's interesting to me how and I try to expose them to like the Beatles and the Beach Boys and and stuff like that because I have my whole record collections up in the living room right on the floor you know because every once in a while I'll put a record on.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: And um I don't know I just it's interesting to me uh the way people listen to music today.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: And we've and and maybe we've talked this to death uh but I think about it a lot.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah my my you know my you know when I I grew up listening to country because that's what my parents listened to.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: Right.
30:48
SPEAKER_00: You know but it was that 70s country that was really cool country.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: I grew up hating country.
30:54
SPEAKER_00: See I I I I I enjoyed it until I discovered my own music.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: Right.
30:59
SPEAKER_00: Then I and then I was like oh but I'm still I still like that old 70s country.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: You know uh Wayland and Willie Wayland and Willie and Crystal Gay like you said Charlie Daniels I you know I always loved Charlie Daniels band.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: See always see no I grew up my my mother listened to that stuff but she also listened to um uh country in the eighties which was Glenn Campbell and um um I don't know Steve Warner you know and things like that.
31:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah um Oak Ridge Boys Oakridge Boys yeah um I hated it because she listened to it all the time right and I just I I I I had to go and find my own music like you said.
31:39
SPEAKER_02: So I found my my own music and I find and I know you don't find this but as I've gotten older I've gotten into country music because I like the stories and and some of the instrumentation and just stuff like that.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean I love Whalen now.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: Whalen and Willie and all those those guys.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: I love all that stuff now um and I love uh Texas country music and I love country music from the uh eighties and nineties Restless Heart Sawyer Brown yeah and maybe that's because it was when I was in high school you know Garth Brooks obviously right um George Strait George Strait more than Garth Brooks but um you know I love all that stuff and I never thought I would and it's just it's interesting but I th I think you like it from a singer songwriter.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Well I think that's probably true.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: Because you like you said you like the story songs.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: And yeah and you know that's what country music is great for is well it used to be yeah it's true is for is for storytelling.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah you know a lot of the great country songs were always story you know right great story songs.
32:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah you know what I mean they all had they all had that that's a bit we should do uh something we should talk about sometime uh is um songs with stories oh yeah uh that would actually would that would be a good one let's let's log that the boundary let me write that down okay okay good but seriously I mean it's just it's interesting how our our tastes change as we as we get older.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah I think it's just you know you're you're you're always gonna go back to what you first your first love.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Right you know and then you can hear then you can hear other stuff but then you can hear like like just an example um I can't remember why I was listening to it recently but um Europe's second album Out of This World is what it was called it was the one the follow-up to the final countdown.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: Right and it was completely different than the final countdown right it was it was very I think the record company must have said let's let's get some hits oh probably because that's what it was all about back then.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Right um but I hadn't heard it and I remember really liking it when it came out this must be 89 88 yeah I'd say late 80s yeah yeah um and they had a couple of hits off of it superstitious I'm not superstitious um but I for some reason I can't remember maybe I found it or I don't know I don't know what it was when I was listening to it and I'm just like this is really good.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: The words are terrible you know the the lyrics are terrible but and I don't even know why I went off on this tangent but it brought me back to when I had first heard it and I started to think why don't I listen to this anymore?
34:48
SPEAKER_02: You know A probably because there's so much music out there.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah you know I know people that like my brother uh they have this artist this artist and this artist and you know if they hear other music they're like that's interesting but it's not this.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:09
SPEAKER_02: No yeah no you know so um I just think it's I I don't know why I don't listen to that album anymore.
35:17
SPEAKER_00: Well like you said I mean there's just so much of it out there now that you know and it's so much more of it's available.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: You know because it I mean you literally you can think of a artist or a song and you can just go beep beep beep on your phone and there you have it.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Yep you know it's not like you had to go to you know the store and buy the cassette or the C D you know and had to wait for it.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
35:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: Same thing happened that that happened last night.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: My boys were telling me they're getting ready for this um band concert and they were playing this they're playing this song that and it had they had this other name for it.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: And I can't remember what the name of it was um but he's like it goes da da da da da hey da da da da da da da da I said that's rock and roll by Gary Glitter.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: They're like no it's not it's this you know title or whatever.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: I said it's rock and roll by Gary Glitter.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: No it's not it's this okay Mr Mr So and so I'm not gonna say who gave us this music and it's got this title on it.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: And so I went to my phone and I looked up on YouTube Gary Glitter rock and roll part two 70s my friend 70s so I mean you're right I mean just pull it up yeah just pull it up and listen literally just right there man so so anyway let's uh let's do the Comic Crossing song of the week the week and um I think if you remember last week I had picked two songs one of them I didn't like very much.
36:52
SPEAKER_02: So you said play the one you like.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so let's let's play the one you don't like and it's not that I don't like it um I don't I like the idea of the song and I just uh I don't like the recording and the performance you know but you that's that's my modus operanda.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: I was about to say how's that different from anything else we've ever done exactly cousin Larry has been giving me some really really good compliments about my songs.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: He seen he sends me private messages and he said what the last one he said to me was actually it was about the um uh when it comes down last week's um yeah podcast and he said how are you not famous and I was like you're sweet that's why that's why he's my cousin Larry yeah he's awesome um so this song and you may not even remember this song but you're you are playing on it um that doesn't mean I remember it this is a song called Playing by Heart.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah I know this you do know the song I do so this was uh I think if I remember right um a guy goes into a bar he's in a he's sad and because of of a bad relationship or something and he sees this lonely piano over in the corner so he goes and sits at this piano and starts playing and um some someone requests a song or something like that and or I can't remember all the words but it's something like uh I'm playing by heart.
38:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: You know I'm this is coming from my heart.
38:31
SPEAKER_00: So that's why you know it's I I don't know why I always picture a Billy Joel type Yeah I think I was I think that's what I was going for.
38:37
SPEAKER_00: Maybe yeah.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: It's not uh and I like the music and I like some most of the words it's just the performance.
38:47
SPEAKER_00: Well I and the recording.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: The recording is not good I will give you that.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: So you know but you know considering what we had at the time yeah it's the best we could do.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: So uh let's just get to it.
38:59
SPEAKER_03: So this is uh the Comedy Crossing song of the week this is playing by heart it was Friday night I was sitting there trying not to pay the hours you sit by didn't know I had to piano look too long too in the corner piano I was playing I'm playing I think we should say uh we should point out that because there's terrible bass playing in there that's just you and I I'm I'm playing the I wasn't playing the bass no no I was I was playing the bass yeah um so I just didn't want Shane to get you know lumped into that no shane would Shane did would deny it.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah he would if that's not me on bass case not it not it that's not me uh so that's the Comic Crossing song of the week which again I dig the song but I don't dig the song.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: You know I mean I get it I think done right it it would be pretty cool.
43:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah I bet if we redid it redid it and changed a couple of things here and there and yeah I think I think it'd be alright I definitely it definitely has potential.
43:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so because you know we're gonna get right on that new album.
43:42
SPEAKER_00: The one we've been talking about since we made the last.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Which was twenty ten.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah was it now twenty twenty one now?
43:48
SPEAKER_00: Yes eleven years almost the in end of the twenty twenty one.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: So it's almost twelve years.
43:51
SPEAKER_00: Almost twelve years.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Well I mean we're we're slow starters.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean what can I say?
43:56
SPEAKER_00: We have enough m material for like four albums.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean Well, we're just pacing ourselves.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, we don't want to I mean you don't want to just rush into these things.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
44:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think twelve years is good time between albums.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: We're just experimenting with that decade.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're just we're like, well, we can't start now.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean, stuff's going on.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, you know, Australia's on the verge of collapse and Germany's, you know, coming back, you know.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I'm just waiting for the next Hitler to show up.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, just like they're here.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: They're they're just, you know, they're hiding.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: We just can't.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, I I just can't see I I I can't work under these conditions.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: Just this is just not it, just can't happen, man.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, we'll we'll just we'll give it another 10 years, see what happens.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean because it's 2021, so we can't start this decade.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: We'd have to wait till 2030.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I mean, who wants to start now?
44:52
SPEAKER_00: Right.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, just you know.
44:54
SPEAKER_02: Right.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I I I gotta find my drum set.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: It's on the trailer.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: In my driveway.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's where it is.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, actually, you have my drum set.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: You have three drumsets, don't you?
45:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, I have I have two, and then I have an electronic one.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: But you don't consider that a drum set?
45:15
SPEAKER_00: Uh not not as such.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: Not not as being okay.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: As a drummer, you can't look at an electronic drum set and go, there's my kit.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
45:28
SPEAKER_00: You just can't do it.
45:31
SPEAKER_00: Now, if if if it was Neil Peart, he could do it.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: Right.
45:35
SPEAKER_00: He he he could legitimize, because he did.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: He used he used an acoustic kick and he used an electric kit.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Alex Van Halen.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: Alex Van Halen.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:44
SPEAKER_00: They can legitimize using electronic kicks because they they they they can rock them.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: Right.
45:51
SPEAKER_00: Mine.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: If if if if if Neil Peart, God rest his soul, was here right now and he looked at my electronic kit, he would probably kick me straight straight square in the ball.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: And say, do better drummer.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: You know?
46:09
SPEAKER_00: He'd be like, you know.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: But he's Canadian.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: He probably wouldn't do that.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's a nice.
46:14
SPEAKER_02: He'd say do better drummer, eh?
46:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he yeah, he'd be like, hey, take off.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: Do you play your electric kit?
46:20
SPEAKER_00: Honestly, no.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Really?
46:23
SPEAKER_00: No.
46:23
SPEAKER_00: I think the only reason I bought it was because I had this vision that I was going to I could, you know, practice anywhere.
46:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I really can't because the action is not the same as an acoustic kit.
46:38
SPEAKER_02: Right.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: You know?
46:40
SPEAKER_00: When you hit it, you might get the snare sound at the same time as you hit it.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: You might not.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: Right.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: That's the cre that's the and now if I had a high-end electronic kit, it would probably be a different story.
46:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: But this is kind of a mid-low rangey kit.
46:55
SPEAKER_08: Okay.
46:56
SPEAKER_08: Right.
46:56
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, at best, it's just something to beat on.
47:01
SPEAKER_00: And you can you you can play pre, you know, it has different settings for different sounding drums, which is kind of cool.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
47:08
unknown: Yep.
47:08
SPEAKER_00: But as making your primary kit as a as a drummer, I just can't do it.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: It it just it just feels wrong.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: It would be like you, you playing an Elmo guitar.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
47:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: So I just it just I just can't legitimize it.
47:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like having it, I like having the option of it being there.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
47:26
SPEAKER_00: But I just can't go, oh yeah, guys, I'm gonna shop you.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: I got my kit with me.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: You want to jam?
47:31
SPEAKER_00: And I I you know, I pull this out and be like, um just a second, let me plug the speakers in.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: I gotta connect the snare to the to the to the thingy.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: Everybody'll be like, you can leave now.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: We don't like you anymore.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Right.
47:47
SPEAKER_00: Go away.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: All right.
47:49
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47:51
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49:19
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49:21
SPEAKER_02: Are you ready to uh cover those eyes?
49:24
SPEAKER_02: You have to cover them now because I can't just walk out of the screen.
49:28
SPEAKER_02: We're not on Zoom.
49:28
SPEAKER_00: I know, that's so difficult.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
49:33
SPEAKER_02: You can just close your eyes.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: I trust you.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: I'll do this.
49:38
unknown: Okay.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: La fee! Tama the opera is there.
49:44
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49:46
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49:53
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49:55
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49:56
SPEAKER_02: Aliens.
49:57
SPEAKER_02: Let me move this.
50:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if we've done this artist before.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: We've done so many.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of Phantom of the Opera.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: Did you know did you in that movie that came out like 15 years ago with uh Gerald Butler and uh Patrick Wilson and Emmy Rose?
50:32
SPEAKER_02: I didn't see it.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: It was really good.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: But I didn't was it Phantom of the Opera?
50:36
SPEAKER_00: It was Phantom of the Opera.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh Gerard Butler played the Phantom.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: Um Did you know that Patrick Wilson?
50:43
SPEAKER_00: He he he grew up as a Broadway singer.
50:47
SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that either.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've seen him in like a bunch of stuff.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: Like he was in that reboot of the A-Team, he was the bad guy.
50:54
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
50:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, stuff like that.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: I've seen him a bunch of stuff.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: He's actually a really, really super good singer.
50:58
SPEAKER_02: No, I didn't know that.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: But Minnie Driver was in it.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: She's a good singer too.
51:03
SPEAKER_00: But they she can't sing opera, so they had to dub an opera singer in for her.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: Really?
51:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: But Andrew Lloyd Weber wrote a song for that movie, and she sings it at the end.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: She's great, great singer.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: She is a great singer.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:19
SPEAKER_00: But she just can't sing opera.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: Right.
51:20
SPEAKER_02: It's like a she's a whole other she's got like a smoky singer singer-songwriter.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: She's really good.
51:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: And then Amy Ross.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: You know how old old she was when she made that movie?
51:29
SPEAKER_02: No.
51:29
SPEAKER_00: 17.
51:30
SPEAKER_00: How long ago was it?
51:32
SPEAKER_00: 2004.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: Well.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: She was 16 when she got the part and was 17 when they filmed it.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: I thought so too.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: And she's an amazing singer.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
51:42
SPEAKER_00: So.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know her that well.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: She's really cute and she really sings can sing well.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: Is she Emmy Ross?
51:51
SPEAKER_02: She's not the one that was in the shameless.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: I have no idea because I lost track of her.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: She was in Phantom and that's all I know.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: So anyway.
52:01
SPEAKER_00: Don't ask me anything else.
52:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I have an album.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I forgot what it was.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: We're doing climbing the wall of two.
52:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, that's right.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh so.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: You gotta say the words.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, uh begin the qu begin the questions.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: Let the guessing begin.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: Let the guessing begin.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
52:19
SPEAKER_00: Um is it a solo or a band?
52:21
SPEAKER_00: Solo.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: Solo.
52:23
SPEAKER_00: Is it a man or a woman?
52:26
SPEAKER_00: A man.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: Solo man.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: Solo man.
52:30
SPEAKER_00: I'm solo man! Um genre.
52:38
SPEAKER_02: He's a genre bender.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: Um we're talking about this album?
52:50
SPEAKER_02: In general.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say pop.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: He's a pop guy.
52:54
SPEAKER_00: What's his height of popularity?
52:56
SPEAKER_00: Mid-2000s.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: Mid-2000s.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh interesting.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man, I might have made up I may have thrown you when I said pop.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Maybe.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: Blues.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: Is he pop or blues?
53:11
SPEAKER_02: Blues pop.
53:12
SPEAKER_00: Blues pop.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: Is that a thing?
53:14
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't even make sense.
53:15
SPEAKER_00: Is that a thing?
53:16
SPEAKER_00: Blues pop.
53:17
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
53:18
SPEAKER_00: Is it John Mayer?
53:19
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
53:23
SPEAKER_00: That's the only person I can think of that would be even close to being blues and pop.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: Right, exactly.
53:29
SPEAKER_02: So John Mayer.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: I have a love-hate relationship with John Mayer.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: I do too, yeah.
53:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, he came out with uh what was it um uh uh no s uh his first hit, no such thing?
53:43
SPEAKER_02: No.
53:45
SPEAKER_02: Like his very first hit his very first hit.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't know.
53:47
SPEAKER_02: It was very pomp.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: I thought his first hit was Your Body is a Wonderland.
53:51
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
53:53
SPEAKER_02: No, that's that's when I first heard of him.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: Um he had a I think it's no such thing.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, he had a couple albums uh under his belt, two or three albums under his belt.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh and they were very pop.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: And then he did this.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh, the continuum album.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, that's a great album.
54:16
SPEAKER_02: Which is uh completely sold me on John Mayer.
54:19
SPEAKER_02: Then he did like a like um I think he did another pop album after I I have to look at his discography.
54:25
SPEAKER_02: But I think he did another pop album after this, and then he went a complete lift turn and did a complete blues album with the John Mayer trio.
54:31
SPEAKER_02: Right.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: Um I love the John Mayer trio.
54:34
SPEAKER_02: I do too, yeah.
54:35
SPEAKER_02: Pinot Palladino.
54:36
SPEAKER_02: Pinot Paladino and Steve Jordan.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
54:38
SPEAKER_00: How can you go wrong?
54:40
SPEAKER_00: Um is continuum one with believe on it?
54:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
54:44
SPEAKER_00: That or belief.
54:45
SPEAKER_00: Is it believe or belief?
54:46
SPEAKER_02: Belief.
54:46
SPEAKER_00: That is such a good song.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: It is an amazing song.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: He's doing pizza care.
54:51
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
54:52
SPEAKER_02: This was his first big hit.
54:54
SPEAKER_02: And it's called No Such Thing.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
55:00
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the real world.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: Is that that one?
55:02
SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
55:03
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
55:06
SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the real world.
55:08
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
55:10
SPEAKER_02: And I liked it.
55:11
SPEAKER_02: It's a good song.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: It's a good song.
55:13
SPEAKER_02: It's very pop.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
55:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, I compared him when he first came out to uh almost like a Dave Matthews.
55:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh poppier, obviously, Dave Matthews.
55:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: But uh, but you know, like he played an acoustic guitar.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:30
SPEAKER_04: And then again, it was good.
55:45
SPEAKER_02: And then you Your Body is a Waterland, I think, was on that same album, um, the first album that he did.
55:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then he came out with something like Didn't he get didn't the heavier alb Heavier Things album after that?
55:59
SPEAKER_02: Heavier Things, yes.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: So he had um, well, this one.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: Um there was a song called Clarity, which was a big hit.
56:06
SPEAKER_00: That was a good song.
56:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was the that was the song the album with daughters on it.
56:11
SPEAKER_02: And this one, Bigger Than My Body.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: Bigger Than My Body, yes.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: Again, pop.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, totally, yeah.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: Right?
56:17
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: And then I don't want to say that Well, I'm gonna say it.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Um the first s single from Continuum, which is the album that we picked, um, wasn't Pomp, because it was.
56:33
SPEAKER_02: Which was this one.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: But it just seemed to have a lot more soul to it.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was just waiting for the world to change.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: It's Pomp.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: But it's got it's got like an RB feel to it.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: It does.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know what I mean?
56:55
SPEAKER_02: And I heard that and I was like, oh, okay.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: Man of friends.
57:03
SPEAKER_02: I think it's funny that we mentioned John Mayer when we were talking about music earlier.
57:08
SPEAKER_02: You know how he spoke at Oxford University.
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
57:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, he's saying what the best decade was.
57:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right, right.
57:16
SPEAKER_05: Just feel like we don't have the feet to rise above and feed it.
57:21
SPEAKER_05: So we keep away and waited.
57:24
SPEAKER_05: Waiting on a way, okay.
57:25
SPEAKER_02: So this whole album, um, continuum is just full of soulful bluesy uh pop R and B.
57:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: Um the uh I could I could I mean I love all of the songs on this album.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: Every single one.
57:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:53
SPEAKER_02: Um I wanted to play a little bit of this.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: Right?
58:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean it's I don't know, trust myself with loving you.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
58:09
SPEAKER_02: And this is kind of.
58:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, his first couple albums, you knew he was a good guitar player.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: But when this one came out and he played all these leads, you were like, whoa, he could really.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
58:25
SPEAKER_00: That you know, guys and girls dig.
58:28
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
58:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, although there's a song on his first album called Neon, which was kind of I actually like that song.
58:37
SPEAKER_02: Virtuosic.
58:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: I like that song.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: Me too.
58:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I could listen to this, you know.
59:08
SPEAKER_05: I don't stress myself.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
59:14
SPEAKER_00: This is the one that you mentioned.
59:15
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love this song.
59:16
SPEAKER_00: This is my this is my favorite song on the album.
59:18
SPEAKER_02: I think I would agree.
59:20
SPEAKER_00: I just love that.
59:23
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a dark song.
59:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, it is a dark song, but it's the lyrics, some of the lyrics in this are it's like punching underwater.
59:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
59:42
SPEAKER_07: Changing the mattress.
59:50
SPEAKER_07: Really count, ever break your record out.
59:59
SPEAKER_07: Oh, everyone for me.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_02: Just wanna get it to the course.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_07: Oh, everyone for me.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I won't get to the chorus.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: I was about to say he goes through a couple versions.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_02: But this is I mean No, I gotta get to the chorus.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_02: Let's see if I can forward.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_06: Where never gonna stop the world?
1:00:45
SPEAKER_06: Where never gonna be this beef, what's bad.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so and then you've got the big hit Gravity came off of this album.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I mean there was a there was a couple of other, you know, every song on this album is good.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_02: And I and I could listen to this album over and over.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: But again, I haven't listened to it in a long time.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: Um I and it's just because there's so much out there to listen to.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Um and then Mayer did the the whole John Mayer trio album, which was amazing.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I loved that.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: It was very bluesy, so good.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: And then he went and he made a bunch of folk albums which weren't as great.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, they had some gems on them, but overall they were kind of like, meh, after, you know.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Because it all started to sound the same after, you know, for me anyway.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_02: And um, so I mentioned it was a love hate um thing with John Mayer.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: Um he's extremely talented.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: He's charismatic.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_02: He's funny.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's very funny.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_00: Um the John Mayer show?
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: So hilarious.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_02: He's kind of a douchebag sometimes.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he gambit, yeah.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_00: I think it's I think it's an uh, you know, it's an ego it's an ego thing.
1:01:56
SPEAKER_02: Is it or do you think it's just um No, I think it's an ego thing.
1:02:00
unknown: Yeah.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_00: I really do.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, I can I I can play guitar and write songs, I'm a funny guy.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm the man.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: I dated Jessica Simpson, Taylor Swift, you know.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, you know, he's really I think it's just an ego thing, really.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_02: Um uh his newest album, uh did we go over his newest album?
1:02:19
SPEAKER_02: We did.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_02: I thought I thought we did.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_00: Because you were saying how it sounded like uh it was straight out of the 80s.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: And and he did it on purpose.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: And it's actually it was it was pretty cool.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: So we have done John Mayer before.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_00: Um we just talked about that.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_00: I think we're talking about new music, two new albums coming out.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, that's probably what it was.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_02: But if you do not have if you excuse me, if you even like John Mayer a little bit, and you and you don't have continuum, do yourself a favor and get continuum because what was that live album that had like it started off with like it was started off with just him.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_00: And then it went to the trio, yeah, and then it went to like everybody, and he and he gave different songs to like, you know.
1:02:58
SPEAKER_02: I have it.
1:02:59
SPEAKER_02: I have it too, and I can't think of the name.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to think of the name of it.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was from a a song.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_02: But I can't remember.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't remember either.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_02: Um I think continuum is his best album.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: As far as studio albums, yeah.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: I think continuum is his best studio albums.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_02: I gotta look that up now, because that's gonna drive me nuts.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it's oh, where the light is.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's it.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_00: That get that album.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, where the Where the Light Is is so many.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_02: It's like live in Los Angeles or something like that.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_00: Because like it's it just starts off with him and another, I think another guy.
1:03:32
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_00: And then he goes to the trio.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_00: Because it's it's broken up in like three parts.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, the him, the trio, and then the full band, everybody, you know, the planet.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it is.
1:03:45
SPEAKER_02: So, um, but yeah, so our album of the week is uh John Mayer's continuum.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, and if you're a John Mayer fan, continue to go get it.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: Yes, do that.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_00: Continuum to go get it.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_00: Continue.
1:03:58
SPEAKER_00: That was stupid, Doug.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_00: Jesus.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_00: Be better, be a better podcaster.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_00: That's so weird to call myself a podcaster.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_02: I know it is weird because this isn't really a podcast.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: This is like this is like a radio show.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_00: This is morally, yeah.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_00: This is more than just like uh we're having a conversation, let's record it.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and let everybody hear it.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and people that listen to it, I'm sorry.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: We apologize.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_00: We should start every show with a disclaimer.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_00: What you're about to hear is gonna suck.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_00: Enjoy.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_00: If you proceed, it's on you.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: Actually, that's a good idea.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_02: Don't say we didn't warn you.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: That's a good idea, actually.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh all right, that's it.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: Season five, episode four.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_00: Boah.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh, in the books.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_02: So um we'll uh we'll be back.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_02: I think uh and I'll try and clean up a little bit more for you, Doug.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_00: But I I don't I I don't know.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_00: I know you don't honestly, it doesn't look any different to me.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_00: It really doesn't really matter to take that.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_00: No, really just the only thing that's different is this mattress.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_00: It's the only thing that's throwing me off.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, it just looks it's it's the fun dungeon.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, so it's just this mattress has been throwing me off.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_00: I've been staring at it the whole time, and I'm just like it's a it's a crib mattress.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this is what I slept on.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_00: I know that's that it's amazing to me because it's like half your height.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_02: Well and it because it's all I had.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: I understand.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_02: I tried to sleep on the couch that you're sitting on.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_00: No, you can't sleep.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is a comfortable couch that's a love seat on.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a love seat, right?
1:05:35
SPEAKER_00: But it is not a sleeping anything.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: And I actually unless you fall asleep sitting up.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: I actually did that a couple of times when I had COVID, and it was you know, I woke up the next morning and it was painful.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I bet.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: But it was also painful, you know, waking up from this.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_02: I had my my daughter's gymnastics mat down here as well that I started.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_00: Dude, I was surprised you didn't like the pellet the pellets over there in the corner, you just pile those up and just sleep on those probably might have been more comfortable.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_00: Of course you got the wood pile over there.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: That might have been, you know.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: But it was.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_02: Anyway.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: So we'll uh we'll wrap it up and we'll uh we'll have season five, episode five next week.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: Next week.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_00: Maybe we'll get a guest.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we should have a guest.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_00: We'll try and get a guest.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_00: Let's get somebody on top to I don't care who.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_00: Let's get somebody.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_00: Let's just find somebody or you know what?
1:06:24
SPEAKER_00: What?
1:06:24
SPEAKER_00: Let's find somebody.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_00: Let's just randomly ask somebody.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_00: Hey, you want to be on our podcast?
1:06:28
SPEAKER_00: Anybody that we know or somebody that we don't know?
1:06:30
SPEAKER_00: It should be somebody we know because otherwise they'd be well, I don't I don't know.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_00: I have a better chance of success of them saying yes.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, good point.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's not like we can just go on Facebook and just like scroll down a bunch of names, just be like, that guy.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_02: We could.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean we could, but I mean they're gonna be like, hey, you want to be on a podcast?
1:06:47
SPEAKER_00: Um, who are you?
1:06:49
SPEAKER_00: We're just two guys in northern Maine.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_00: I live my name's my name's my name's Joe Biden.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't have time to be on your podcast.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm a busy man.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm busy.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_00: I got stuff to do.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_00: Why don't you get Kamala to do it?
1:07:04
SPEAKER_00: She's not doing anything.
1:07:05
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't seem to be too busy.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: Why don't you get her?
1:07:09
SPEAKER_00: We have to be war whispering now.
1:07:11
unknown: That's the political part.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_00: That's why I changed my voice.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they won't know it's me.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe we'll ask him when he's done being president, Joe Biden.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_00: I just I would just I would really just like to have a conversation with the guy just to see what he's actually like.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:07:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know if we actually get him.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't because he's been a politician so long.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_00: And when you're 40 something years.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, once you've been a politician for that long, you you're not you're a real person.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_00: You're not a real person anymore.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_00: You're just like whoever you have to be to get their vote.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_00: It's true.
1:07:47
SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't care.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: It's the same thing.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_02: Same thing.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_00: I don't, you're not a real person anymore.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_00: You're just a politician.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_00: You're a politician, especially that long.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're talking decades.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't, you know.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, I just I don't know if we'd ever get the real like Joe Biden.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_00: Hey, can we talk to Joe Biden?
1:08:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll see if he's a real war.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_00: He's kind of busy.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_00: I know he's busy.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_00: I know he's he's the president, man.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_00: But come on.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_00: We want to talk at him.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_00: But I don't know.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_00: Let's find some.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: You know who won't even let the press corps talk to him.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
1:08:22
SPEAKER_00: I bet I wonder if we could talk to Obama.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_00: He seems like a pretty interesting guy.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_00: He seems like a nice guy.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_02: You know who I guarantee you we can talk to.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_02: Who?
1:08:33
SPEAKER_02: Trump.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_02: It's a podcast and he can talk.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh and maybe 25 people will.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if I could handle it though.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I don't think it's it.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't, I couldn't, I don't know if I could do that, man.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't think I could.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_00: I could take, you know, he's like arsenic.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_00: You can take him in small doses.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's so true.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_00: But I, you know, but other than that, I don't really want to talk.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_00: I'd like to talk to somebody like interesting, you know, somebody yeah, I don't, you know, outside of music.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of people in music.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_00: Morgan Freeman.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_00: Love to talk to Morgan Freeman.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_00: That'd be cool.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_00: That would be an amazing conversation, wouldn't it?
1:09:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_00: Because you're like, wow.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_02: Denzel Washington.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_02: Talking to God.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_02: Denzel Washington.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_00: I bet that would be an amazing conversation.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_02: I think I've come to the conclusion that Denzel Washington is my favorite actor.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_00: He's awesome.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_02: He's at least in my top five.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_00: Easy, man.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_00: He can play anything.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't care what he is.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_00: You know who would be cool to talk to?
1:09:31
SPEAKER_00: Anna Kendrick.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she, well, she's from Maine.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_00: I know.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_00: Why don't we get a hold of her?
1:09:36
SPEAKER_00: Maybe, you know, she'd be.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_00: You say we.
1:09:39
SPEAKER_00: You mean me?
1:09:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I could try.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_00: I'll give it a shot.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I'm doing, but hey, I'll just be like, yeah.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I'm doing.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a creeper or anything.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_02: Michael Sweet from Striper didn't answer me.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he didn't?
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's too bad.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_02: But he just had like uh didn't he just have some sort of surgery?
1:09:59
SPEAKER_02: Eye surgery, yeah.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_02: Because he had to detach retines or something.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's a busy guy, man.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_00: Plus that you know they have a documentary coming out.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_02: I know they had a Kickstarter.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_02: That uh they raised over 200 grand.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_00: Something like that.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be like a full-length documentary.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll watch that.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_00: Heck yeah, man.
1:10:14
SPEAKER_00: Love Striper.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_00: Me too.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I think she'd be cool to talk to.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_00: Well, then reach out to her.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, yeah.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna let I'm gonna put you on that.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_00: See what I can do.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_00: Do it.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_00: Don't I don't guarantee that it's gonna happen.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_00: I don't guarantee anything's gonna happen.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_02: Even the ones that I reach out to.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you know, hey.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_02: That's okay though.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_00: That's what we do here.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_02: We just, you know, if we we're big dreamers.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_02: We don't if we don't get real celebrities on, we have our friends on.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_00: They're real celebrities.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_02: Local.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_00: Toss they're uh my friends are celebrities, man.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_00: They're awesome, yeah.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're in my own mind.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_00: In your own mind, and that's all that matters.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_00: Whatever happens up here, awesome.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: All right, that's it.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: Season five, episode four.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, I forgot.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we gotta wrap it up.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_00: We were trying to end it, weren't we?
1:11:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_00: And I did nothing.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_00: Alright, I'm O'Brien! Yeah.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: Bye, everybody!
1:11:09
SPEAKER_00: I don't want it to end.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_00: Because if I say my name, it means it's over.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna say it.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: Doug!
1:11:18
SPEAKER_00: No, I have to say it.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_00: It's over.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_00: No, I have to say it, so if I don't say it, it's not over.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_08: Uh-huh.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_08: I was scared to see here.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_00: I have the button.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_00: I know you can press it anytime.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_00: Like in the middle of this time.
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1:11:51
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1:11:53
SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_08: This is fun though, isn't it?