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The Grateful Dead (Pt. 3): What The Epstein Files Tell Us About Bob Weir’s Bohemian Grove Ties and MK Ultra · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. This is a
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Speaker 1: story about the other one, the prep school kid, the
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Speaker 1: bag man, the Devil's right hand. And it's also a
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Speaker 1: story about Satanism, an LSD and the CIA an MK Ultra,
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Speaker 1: about ritual sacrifice and the devils and the details of
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Speaker 1: the Epstein files. And on the grounds of Bohemian Grove,
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Speaker 1: this is a story about The Grateful Dead's Bob Weir,
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Speaker 1: about a man who made great music, unlike that music
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Speaker 1: I played for you at the top of the show.
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Speaker 1: That wasn't great music.
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Speaker 2: That was a.
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Speaker 1: Preset loop for my melotron called boot Scoot and Booty
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Speaker 1: MK one. I played you that loop because I can't
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Speaker 1: afford the rights to the Fate of Ophelia by Taylor Swift.
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Speaker 1: And why would I play you that specific slice of
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Speaker 1: oversaturated Kelsey Cheese.
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Speaker 2: Could I afford it?
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Speaker 1: Because that was the number one song in America on
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Speaker 1: January tenth, twenty twenty six, and that was the day
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Speaker 1: Grateful Dead guitarist Bob Weird died, promptly sending me down
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Speaker 1: the rabbit hole at Bohemian Grove. On this episode, the
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Speaker 1: CIA MK Ultra, nearly a million Dead Satanic Sacrifice LSD
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's files, Bohemian Grove and Bob Weir. I'm Jake
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Speaker 1: Brennan in This This Disgraceland. On January tenth of this year,
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, Grateful Dead, rat Dog and Dead and
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Speaker 1: Company guitarist, singer and songwriter Bob Weir died. The statement
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Speaker 1: from his family says that Bobby, as they call him, quote,
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Speaker 1: transitioned peacefully, surrounded by loved ones after courageously beating cancer
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Speaker 1: as only Bobby could. Unfortunately, he succumbed to underlying lung
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Speaker 1: issues unquote.
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Speaker 2: Bob Weir was.
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Speaker 1: Beloved by his family and by fans from around the globe.
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Speaker 2: He not only helped mold.
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Speaker 1: The sound of one of the most influential and successful
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Speaker 1: rock and roll bands of all time, he also helped
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Speaker 1: create an institution, a Grateful Dead, an institution that built
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Speaker 1: a community that will live on long after the band
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Speaker 1: and its members. The Grateful Dead community is famously unique
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Speaker 1: to the Grateful Dead, and no other band of music
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Speaker 1: history has created or is associated with, anything quite like it.
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Speaker 2: The Deadheads.
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Speaker 1: Aside from the unique fan behavior that define Deadheads, following
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Speaker 1: the band around from town to town tape trading and bootlegging,
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Speaker 1: the parking lot commerce, and the superficial characteristics of dead Heads.
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Speaker 1: The Tide and nouveau hippie style Deadheads are loyal, carrying, curious,
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Speaker 1: and civic minded. They come from all different socioeconomic backgrounds,
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Speaker 1: rich kids, poor kids, stoners and jocks and frat boys
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Speaker 1: and prep school kids like Bob Weir once was. Deadheads
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Speaker 1: are from all over the political spectrum as well, mostly left,
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Speaker 1: but some from the right, and of course libertarians and
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Speaker 1: gonzo extremists that defy categorization. And now, sixty plus years
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Speaker 1: after the group's first show on May fifth, nineteen sixty five,
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Speaker 1: at Magoo's Pizza Parlor in Menlo Park, California, under the
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Speaker 1: name of the Warlocks, the Grateful Dead's fans span generations
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Speaker 1: from great grandparents who saw the band back in the
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Speaker 1: day to teenage fans of the modern day Dead in Company.
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Speaker 1: The single most important element of the Grateful Dead, aside
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Speaker 1: from the music, an improvisational form of Americana that owes
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Speaker 1: as much to Bill Monroe's mandolin as it does to
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Speaker 1: John Coltrane's tenor Sachs. The single most important element besides
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Speaker 1: that music is the Dead Community, and the one element
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Speaker 1: of that community that has remained consistent from the time
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Speaker 1: of the band's first shows as part of Ken Kesey's
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Speaker 1: famed sixties acid Tests until the recent run of Day
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Speaker 1: the End Company shows that the sphere in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: The one element of that community that has remained consistent
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Speaker 1: is the grateful Dead community's commitment to openness, a sense
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Speaker 1: of welcoming born of curiosity and kindness, and compelled by
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Speaker 1: willingness to make the world a better place. Every Deadhead
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Speaker 1: knows that community is the most important thing change if
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Speaker 1: that is indeed the goal, no matter one's own personal beliefs,
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Speaker 1: starts from within and immediately extends to one's surrounding community.
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir understood and lived this ethos, just as his
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Speaker 1: fellow bandmates Mickey Hart and Bill Kritzman continue to live,
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Speaker 1: and just as Bob's past bandmates Jerry Garcia, Phil lesh
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Speaker 1: Ron Pigpen mccernin, and lyricist Robert Hunter lived before they passed.
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Speaker 1: When Bob Weir died, I thought first of the Dead Community,
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Speaker 1: even before I thought of his bab I wondered, how
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Speaker 1: will the Deadheads take this, this death from The Grateful
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Speaker 1: Dead will most surely spell the end of the band's
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Speaker 1: live output. Somehow remarkably, Dead band members found ways to
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Speaker 1: keep the community together after Jerry Garcia's death in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety five, with touring efforts by Weir's rat dog, Phil
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Speaker 1: Lesh's fill in friends, and most recently, and most successfully
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Speaker 1: with Bob Weir, Mickey Hart and Bill Kurtzman's Dead and Company,
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Speaker 1: a group that's success came in no small part from
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Speaker 1: its collaboration with musician John Mayer. It's hard to see
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Speaker 1: how Dead and Company survives without Bob Weir, and with that,
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Speaker 1: it feels like this may indeed be the end of
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Speaker 1: the long, strange trip for Deadheads. My thoughts then turned
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Speaker 1: to Bob Weir's place in the band, as quote unquote,
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Speaker 1: the other One nestled slyly up Jerry Garcia's sleeve as
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Speaker 1: Jerry's ace, Jerry's rhythm guitarist, his figurative kid brother, the
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Speaker 1: straight man to Jerry's psychedelic captain trips, Jerry's literal bag man. Bobby,
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Speaker 1: the dude from The Grateful Dead, who looks so normal
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Speaker 1: in his polo shirt and jeans that he was the
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Speaker 1: one tasked to carry Jerry's heroin around on tour, And
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Speaker 1: then I thought of Bob Weir, the man his background,
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Speaker 1: an adopted child who never knew his biological parents growing up,
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Speaker 1: who has raised privilege, the son of his adoptive parents
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Speaker 1: in Atherton, California, one of the wealthiest suburbs in the
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Speaker 1: United States, a prep school kid with easy, bronzed good looks,
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Speaker 1: an athletic frame, and old money hair. The polo shirt
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Speaker 1: and cut off jeans gave it all away from me
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Speaker 1: back in the nineteen eighties. And then I thought of
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Speaker 1: Bob's post grateful dead pre dead in company life, in
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Speaker 1: those rumors and the wild conspiracy theories, rumors that once
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Speaker 1: spread quickly became fact.
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Speaker 2: The fact that Bob Weir in his.
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Speaker 1: Later years was part of a different community altogether, a
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Speaker 1: community whose members had vastly different ideas about freedom and
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Speaker 1: kindness and change than deadheads had much different ideas, a community,
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Speaker 1: it can be argued, was responsible for much of the
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Speaker 1: world's death and destruction throughout the twentieth and early twenty
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Speaker 1: first centuries. A community that bonds over not just communal ritual, but,
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Speaker 1: as it's been alleged over communal ritual sacrifice. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about Bob Weir's official membership in the community of Bohemian Grove.
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Speaker 1: The Bohemian Club was started back in eighteen seventy two.
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Speaker 1: Mark Twain was among the club's earliest members, as were
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Speaker 1: Jack London, Ambrose Bierce and other writers, journalists, musicians and artists.
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Speaker 1: As the nineteenth century turned into the twentieth, so too
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Speaker 1: did the Bohemian Club's membership from the arts world to
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Speaker 1: the twin worlds of business and politics. Throughout the twentieth
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Speaker 1: and twenty first century, its members have included every Republican president,
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Speaker 1: with the exception of Donald Trump, not to mention secretaries
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Speaker 1: of State and Defense. You're Henry Kissinger's and Donald Rumsfeld's,
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Speaker 1: Alexander Haigs.
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Speaker 2: And James Bakers.
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Speaker 1: And then there are the pre Silicon Valley titans of industry,
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Speaker 1: your Rockefellers and Forbes. Those with American names that smack
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Speaker 1: of birthright power and with pedigrees that reached back into
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Speaker 1: the finest preparatory at Ivy League schools this country has
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Speaker 1: to offer. Some of them rooted in the secret Skull
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Speaker 1: and Bones Society at Yale from the early twentieth century.
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Speaker 1: The same men who made up the OSS, the Office
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Speaker 1: of Strategic Services, the United States' first centralized intelligence agency,
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Speaker 1: tasked with gathering and analyzing foreign intelligence on America's behalf.
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Speaker 2: During World War Two.
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Speaker 1: After the war, the OSS became the CIA, the Central
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Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency. CIA directors William Casey, John McCone, and George H. W.
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Speaker 1: Bush were all Bohemian Grove members. George H. W. Bush
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Speaker 1: as well as his son w and Rumsfeld and Cheney
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Speaker 1: and Reagan and Casey and kissing Her and Nixon, Nixon
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Speaker 1: and Bob Weird, and they were all part.
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Speaker 2: Of the community at Bohemian Grove.
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Speaker 1: The men who brought you weapons of mass destruction, en
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Speaker 1: ron I Ran Contra, the Crack epidemic, the secret bombing
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Speaker 1: of Cambodia, Watergame Operation Mockingbird MK Ultra, the Gulf of Tonkan,
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Speaker 1: and the assassination of John F.
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Speaker 2: Kennedy.
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Speaker 1: All those dudes, and the dude who brought you Sugar Magnolia,
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Speaker 1: The Grateful Dead's Bob Weir. Bohemian Grove is a twenty
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Speaker 1: seven hundred acre private campground canopied under the giant redwoods
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Speaker 1: of Monte Rio in northern California. The grove is owned
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Speaker 1: by the all male Bohemian Club from nearby San Francisco.
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Speaker 1: Every year at the Bohemian Grove, under tight knit security
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Speaker 1: and in total secrecy, the Bohemian Club hosts a two
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Speaker 1: week camp attended by two thousand of the country's richest, whitest,
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Speaker 1: most powerful men. What these men do each year at
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Speaker 1: this camp has long been the subject of debate among
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Speaker 1: journalists and conspiracy theorists alike, everything from innocent old school
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Speaker 1: fratboy antics to child's sacrifice.
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Speaker 2: At least that's what's alleged, and.
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Speaker 1: The community at the camp is instructed to follow a
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Speaker 1: rule insisting that business talk is strictly prohibited. It's a
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Speaker 1: rule that we know is duly ignored, however, for it
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Speaker 1: was here at Bohemian Grove that the critical planning for
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Speaker 1: the Manhattan Project took place on September fourteenth, nineteen forty two,
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Speaker 1: when physicists Robert Oppenheimer and Ernest Lawrence met with Brigadier
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Speaker 1: General Leslie Groves and Colonel Kenneth Cole to iron out
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Speaker 1: the crucial technical aspects of the development for the atomic bomb.
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Speaker 1: Three years after that meeting at Bohemian Grove, the world's
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Speaker 1: first nuclear weapons were dropped onto Hiroshima and Nagasaki, over
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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people died, and keeping up with the
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Speaker 1: tradition of ignoring the gross community rule prohibiting business talk,
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Speaker 1: it was here at Bohemian Grove in July nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: seven that Richard Nixon kicked off his success uipull nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty eight campaign for president with a lakeside chat to
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Speaker 1: potential donors and supporters, one of them another Grove member,
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Speaker 1: the popular California governor at the time, Ronald Reagan, had
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Speaker 1: pledged to Nixon after hearing his Grove talk to not
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Speaker 1: challenge Nixon's presidential run, and by nineteen seventy three, over
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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand innocent Cambodians would be dead due to
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Speaker 1: President Nixon's secret bombing campaign, and by seventy four, Nixon
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Speaker 1: would resign in disgrace over the federal government's intelligence agency
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Speaker 1: designed Watergate coup d'eta, an historical event of epic proportions,
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Speaker 1: one that would forever destroy the American public's trust in
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Speaker 1: its government. It's easy to imagine a much different world
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Speaker 1: were it not for the decisions made at Bohemian Grove.
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Speaker 1: If only the community followed its number one rule prohibiting
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Speaker 1: business talk, and the rule is there for a reason.
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Speaker 1: Grove members attend their yearly retreat in part to shed
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Speaker 1: the stress that accompanies their high power positions as masters
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Speaker 1: of the universe. The Grove community is serious about the
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Speaker 1: concept of care and bose a motto nicked from William
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Speaker 1: Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream that says weaving spiders come
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Speaker 1: not here, which is loosely translated to mean leave all
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Speaker 1: your scheming and power brokering and bullshit networking at the
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Speaker 1: gate so we can blow off steam and escape the
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Speaker 1: pressures of running the world for a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: to signal the community's seriousness about this concept of quote
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Speaker 1: unquote care, i e. Giving too much of a fuck
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Speaker 1: about your job when it isn't your time to give
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Speaker 1: a fuck. The opening ceremony for every Bohemian Grove yearly
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Speaker 1: retreat is the signature cremation of Care, an event where
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Speaker 1: masked robed members emerge from the woods looking every bit
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Speaker 1: the part of eyes wide shut extras to promptly take
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Speaker 1: part in the burning of a massive human effigy under
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Speaker 1: the intense watchful eyes of a thirty foot concrete statue.
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Speaker 2: Of an owl.
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Speaker 1: The human effigy is named Dull Care, and its theatrical
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Speaker 1: burning is meant to represent the unburdening of community members's
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Speaker 1: everyday pressures and professional burdens. Now, I like to imagine
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir at opening night of the Bohemian Grove re Tree,
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Speaker 1: glancing upon the burning embers of Dull Care and relinquishing
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Speaker 1: all his past frustrations with Jerry Garcia being forced to
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Speaker 1: carry Jerry's heroin to manage his early nineties decline, the
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Speaker 1: parking lot violence, dead and gone deadheads. Jerry's refusal to
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Speaker 1: take any responsibility for any of it is clinging to
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Speaker 1: a juvenile definition of adolescent freedom, one that resulted in
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Speaker 1: unnecessary deadhead mayhem, Jerry's own version of impowered obstinates that
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Speaker 1: was ironically much like that of a man Bob Weir
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Speaker 1: was now sharing a cabin with Donald Rumsfeld. That's right,
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir and Donald Rumsfeld not only were at Bohemian
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Speaker 1: Grove at the same time, but were part of the
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Speaker 1: same camp, eating, sleeping, and socializing together as members of
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote Hillbillies camp. What exactly did the Grateful
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Speaker 1: Dead's Bob Weir and the architect of the Iraq War,
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Speaker 1: George W. Bush's Donald Rumsfeld get up to together at
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove. Was it simple fraternizing or was it something
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Speaker 1: much darker?
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this. We're We're, We're.
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Speaker 1: Said to happen at Bohemian Grove, But the straightest explanation
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Speaker 1: depicts Grove activities as basically a much larger, more posh
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Speaker 1: ivy league frat party from a bygone era, less animal
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Speaker 1: house and more skull and bones. Grove members group themselves
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Speaker 1: together into camps. There's the aforementioned Hillbillies, whose members not
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Speaker 1: only include Bob Weir and Donald Rumsfeld, but George H. W.
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Speaker 1: Bush and Walter Cronkite. Grateful Dead member Mickey Hart, like
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir, was said to also be a Grove member
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Speaker 1: and a member of the Hillbillies, though I found conflicting
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Speaker 1: information listing Mickey as being part of the Rattlers. There's
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Speaker 1: also Camp Mandalay, known as the pre Eminent Camp. Some
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Speaker 1: of Mandalay's famous past members include Kissinger and Reagan's Secretary
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Speaker 1: of State George Schultz. And there's the Caveman Camp. I guess,
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Speaker 1: unsurprisingly this is the camp that housed Nixon, and the
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Speaker 1: Nest camp was populated by Reagan and fellow actor Eddie
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Speaker 1: Albert from Green Acres. Clint Eastwood from neighboring Carmel took
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Speaker 1: a bunk in the Roaring Camp, while industry titans like
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Speaker 1: the Rockefellers and Morgan's betted down in the stowaway camp.
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Speaker 1: These camps the Hillbillies, the Rattlers, etc. They're also the entertainment.
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Speaker 1: In addition to the cremation of care and the lakeside talks,
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove programming includes plays and performances staged by different
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Speaker 1: camp members, often in drag, a tradition dating back to
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Speaker 1: early Ivy League fraternizing and one that prompted President Richard
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Speaker 1: Nixon to say about Bohemian Grove that it's quote the
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Speaker 1: most faggy, goddamn thing you could ever imagine unquote. However,
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Speaker 1: some claim that there's more than frat party antics at
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Speaker 1: the core of Bohemian Grove traditions, and that the drag
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Speaker 1: performances are part of an overall luciferian subversion of American morals,
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Speaker 1: one that is best represented by the massive thirty foot
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Speaker 1: owl statue that presides over the creation of care effigy burning,
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Speaker 1: which it's alleged, isn't about cleansing one's connection to the
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Speaker 1: pressures of the real world, but is instead a sacrifice
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Speaker 1: offered to the Babylonian deity Molick, who watches over the
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Speaker 1: evil deeds of Bohemian Grove attendees. Conspiracy theorists claim that
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove isn't a community, but is instead a secret
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Speaker 1: religion in disguise, one that planned the new world order
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Speaker 1: as we've experienced it over the past century plus through
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Speaker 1: a series of malevolent deeds executed by compromised world leaders,
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Speaker 1: honeytrapped through local prostitution rings and massive orgies into pulling
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Speaker 1: off some of the most dastardly murderous shit in global history,
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Speaker 1: all because well.
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Speaker 2: You know, Satan. I guess.
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Speaker 1: It's February twenty twenty and the world is freaking out
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Speaker 1: right now over the redacted release of a trove of
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Speaker 1: government files related to a more recent power player, the
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Speaker 1: disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. The files paint a picture of
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Speaker 1: a modern day master of the Universe up to all
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Speaker 1: kinds of secret evil behavior. It appears, And I say
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Speaker 1: this in all seriousness. It appears in an almost indisputable
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Speaker 1: way that Jeffrey Epstein was speaking in code about what
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Speaker 1: is presumed to be sex with prostitutes and underage girls
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Speaker 1: and getting chummy with some of the most powerful men
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Speaker 1: and women in the world after I repeat, after he
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Speaker 1: was convicted in two thousand and eight of procuring a
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Speaker 1: child for prostitution and for soliciting prostitution. Epstein's post conviction
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Speaker 1: conversations with other Masters of the Universe include an exchange
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Speaker 1: with President Barack Obama's former Treasury secretary and president of
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Speaker 1: Harvard Universe City, Larry Summers, where to discuss one of
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Speaker 1: summers is Epstein related female relationships. There are conversations with
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants co owner Steve Tish referencing a
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Speaker 1: quote unquote Ukrainian girl of an unknown age, and another
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Speaker 1: email with a Dubai sultan.
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Speaker 2: A literal torture video is discussed.
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Speaker 1: Barclay's CEO Jess Staley speaks with Epstein about quote unquote
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Speaker 1: Disney princesses alleged code for young women, and former Obama
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Speaker 1: General consul and Goldman Sachs attorney Katherine Rumler is in
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Speaker 1: numerous emails with Epstein, seeking career advice and flirting with
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Speaker 1: the convicted sex offender while thanking him for numerous luxury
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Speaker 1: gifts that he showered upon her. The files also proved
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Speaker 1: that the current US Commerce Secretary under President Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik, maintained a long standing relationship with his neighbor
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, one that he lied to the public about
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Speaker 1: just a few months ago, a relationship that included a
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Speaker 1: trip to Epstein Island with his wife and children, again
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Speaker 1: after Epstein was proven to be a convicted child sex offender. Now,
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Speaker 1: these are the verifiable, indisputable facts from the Epstein files,
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Speaker 1: not the conjecture. The conjecture is nuts, like the coded
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Speaker 1: conversations about pizza and grape soda and jerky, whatever the
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Speaker 1: hell those are in reference to, or the fact that
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Speaker 1: on December sixth, twenty eighteen, the same day that Epstein
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Speaker 1: found out that the Southern District of New York was
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Speaker 1: renewing its federal investigation into his behavior, Epstein himself ordered
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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty gallons of sulfuric acid, a powerful
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Speaker 1: dehydrating agent known for breaking down organic materials like human.
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Speaker 2: Skin and bone.
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Speaker 1: What was up with that or the claim in the
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Speaker 1: files by one alleged victim, who states that at the
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Speaker 1: age of sixteen, she was used as a human incubator
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Speaker 1: and impregnated by someone from Epstein's inner circle in an
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Speaker 1: attempt to create a superior being, and that upon giving
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Speaker 1: birth to that child, the baby was allegedly immediately taken
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Speaker 1: from her by epstein partner in crime, Gallaine Maxwell, and
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Speaker 1: then the baby was never seen or heard from again.
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Speaker 1: In fact, the baby was referred to in the past tense,
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Speaker 1: and the alleged implication, if we're to believe the victim,
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Speaker 1: is that the baby was sacrificed, and the teen accuser
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Speaker 1: states that hours after she gave birth, she heard Maxwell
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Speaker 1: say that the baby was beautiful. Was now. Perhaps there
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Speaker 1: are legitimate explanations for all of this. Perhaps the conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theorists are doing what conspiracy theorists do best, taking bits
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Speaker 1: of information and well theorizing.
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Speaker 2: I sincerely hope so.
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Speaker 1: Or perhaps comedian Tim Dillon put it best when he said,
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Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing here, maybe the Bohemian girl rituals were innocent,
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Speaker 1: but maybe one dude watching the cremation of care was
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Speaker 1: likeal this figurative sacrificial bullshit. Let's sacrifice some real babies,
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Speaker 1: and maybe that dude ended up in Epstein's circle, and
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Speaker 1: maybe the human effigy wasn't enough for the likes of
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein's Masters of the Universe. Maybe the worst behavior
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Speaker 1: from the Epstein Files is just the natural outgrowth of
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Speaker 1: Bohemian growth.
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Speaker 2: I hope not. I do not want to believe that.
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Speaker 1: In fact, as of right now, I don't believe it
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Speaker 1: to date, as I write this on February seventeenth, twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, there's nothing in the Epstein files that proves
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Speaker 1: child's sacrifice. All that's been proven so far is the
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Speaker 1: criminal and questionable behavior of a few women and a
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Speaker 1: lot of rich and powerful men, many of them nerds
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Speaker 1: like Bill Gates, who I'm guessing never got laid in
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Speaker 1: high school or college. And these nerds who found themselves
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Speaker 1: with loads of power as adults and the means to
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Speaker 1: behave in truly disgusting ways. Yes, and there's a corollarya
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Speaker 1: with Bohemian grove, but it's less disgraceful and I believe
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Speaker 1: more innocent. Despite claims of child sacrifice and Satanic rituals,
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove was, I believe, just a bunch of former
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Speaker 1: Ivy League tryhards who chose hard work overplay as adolescents
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Speaker 1: and responded as adults by going into the woods for
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks out of the year so that
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Speaker 1: they could behave like the irresponsible kids that they were
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Speaker 1: never allowed to be. But it still begs the question
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Speaker 1: what the hell was Bob Weird doing there. Unlike his
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Speaker 1: Grateful Dead band members, and much like most of his
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Speaker 1: Bohemian Grove community members, Bob Weir was a prep school kid,
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Speaker 1: and similar to most dead Heads, Bob Weir was a
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Speaker 1: curious and open minded individual. Bob were centered his life
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Speaker 1: around the concept of community. There was the Grateful Dead community,
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Speaker 1: and there was the community he lived in in northern California,
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Speaker 1: a community with political, social, and environmental causes Bob We're
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Speaker 1: supported throughout his life. In a mid AUT's interview with
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Speaker 1: the local paper, Weir said quote, I believe in community everything.
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Speaker 1: I practiced that in my life. In a given year,
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Speaker 1: probably twenty percent of the gigs I play are benefits.
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Speaker 2: I walk the talk. I work for the community, and
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Speaker 2: the community works for me.
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Speaker 1: It's been that way for forty some years now and
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Speaker 1: it hasn't let me down. I think that what we
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Speaker 1: discovered in the sixties is that unity culture is a
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Speaker 1: really good paradigm unquote. With that community focused thinking at
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Speaker 1: the center of his life, alongside the obvious principles of
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Speaker 1: openness and curiosity, it's very easy for me to understand
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Speaker 1: why Bob Weir was a member of not just the
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Speaker 1: Deadhead community, but of the local Bohemian Grove community as well.
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir's comments about his affiliation with Bohemian Grove, however,
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Speaker 1: were vague, and I believe intentionally so, in keeping with
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Speaker 1: the secretive wishes of the community. But that doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that his intentions were nefarious, despite some of the malevolent
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Speaker 1: outcomes spawning from the retreat. There are a couple of
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Speaker 1: reasons I believe Bob Weir became a member of Bohemian Grove,
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Speaker 1: one obvious and one not so much. The obvious reason
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Speaker 1: is that, given Weir's background of privilege, he was experienced
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Speaker 1: enough to know that change can sometimes only happen from
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Speaker 1: within existing power structures, and given the societal change for
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Speaker 1: the better for Bob Weir was part of his principled
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Speaker 1: outlook on life. Weir understood that he was in a
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Speaker 1: unique position to make a difference. All he had to
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Speaker 1: do was Donna robe and duck into the woods and
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Speaker 1: pound biers with Don Rumsfeld and others once a year
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Speaker 1: to make his case. And what's better bitching about the
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Speaker 1: Iraq War to your friends you can't do anything about it,
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Speaker 1: or making your case directly to the Secretary of Defense.
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Speaker 1: The other reason I believe is LSD, more specifically the
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Speaker 1: origins of LSD. If you've listened to the first Disgrace
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Speaker 1: Land episode on The Grateful Dead, you'll hear all about
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Speaker 1: how the band was unwittingly used by the CIA to
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Speaker 1: indirectly spread the use of LSD throughout American culture in
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Speaker 1: the late sixties. This was in part the result of
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Speaker 1: the CIA's MK Ultra program. Bob Weir was well aware
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Speaker 1: that this program was designed by many of the men
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Speaker 1: who were part of the Bohemian Grove community. In twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: I released My Grateful Dead episode of Disgrace Slam, and
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Speaker 1: a few days later was contacted by Grateful Dead publicist
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Speaker 1: and biographer Dennis McNally, author of the definitive biography of
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Speaker 1: the band. A long strange trip. Dennis explained to me
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Speaker 1: that he and grateful dead lyricist Robert Hunter had some
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Speaker 1: questions for me based on what I'd researched and wrote
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Speaker 1: part of my thesis in that episode. Was a grateful
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Speaker 1: dead manager and soundman. Augustus Olesley Stanley IID aka Bear
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Speaker 1: aka Bear Owsley, himself an LSD chemist and distributor, was
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Speaker 1: an actual CIA operative. Owsley was the son of an
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Speaker 1: FTC attorney and grandson of a US senator, the exact
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Speaker 1: type of young man the.
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Speaker 2: CIA would choose to turn.
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Speaker 1: I didn't prove my thesis, but I think I came
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Speaker 1: pretty close based on what McNally told me Hunter believed
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Speaker 1: before he died later that year. Robert Hunter, the grateful
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Speaker 1: dead lyricist, never believed Bear Owsley's claimed that Bear learned
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Speaker 1: everything he needed to know about the recipe for processing
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Speaker 1: LSD from what Bear pulled from the books he found
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Speaker 1: in the UC Berkeley Library, because Robert Hunter apparently dove
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Speaker 1: into the stacks at the UC Berkeley Library himself, and
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Speaker 1: what he found out was that the scientific information on
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Speaker 1: LSD processing that the UC Berkeley Library held was not
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Speaker 1: part of the library until after Bear Osley made his
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Speaker 1: first batch in nineteen sixty five. So where did Bear
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Speaker 1: get the recipe? And what I'm saying is the LSD
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Speaker 1: processing information wasn't there. I mean it was, but it
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Speaker 1: wasn't there until after Osley made his first batch. Therefore,
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Speaker 1: it was theorized that perhaps Osley received his recipe from
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Speaker 1: the CIA, and perhaps Bear Osley had a deeper relationship
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Speaker 1: with the secret organization, whose members, including many of its directors,
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Speaker 1: were frequent attendees of Bohemian Grove, the same Bohemian Grove
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Speaker 1: Bob Weir was inexplicably a member of. Perhaps part of
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Speaker 1: the reason Bob was a Bohemian Grove member was to
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Speaker 1: uncover the truth about his former manager's relationship, if any,
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Speaker 1: to the CIA, from actual members of the CIA who
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Speaker 1: he attended Bohemian Grove with. Or perhaps Bob Weir was
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Speaker 1: just living in accordance with his principles to affect change
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Speaker 1: in the community as best he could, in this case
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Speaker 1: from the inside among power players, he found himself in
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Speaker 1: the unique position to not just entertain, but to himself influence.
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Speaker 1: Either way, neither reason is a disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan,
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