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Tell Cooper sitting in for Dave Alan. Thank you so much for tuning in
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on this on this Thursday morning on five Live w c HS, the Voice
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of Charleston. Looking to hear from Joe Stevens coming up here in just a
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few minutes that the Wall memorial that's going to have its new permanent home in
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Nitro, that is going to be arriving on scene, or is arriving one
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scene right now. Joe Stevens is scheduled to give us a call this morning
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to give us an update of how that is going on the ground. Just
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for a couple of minutes. We're waiting to hear from Joe from the city
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of Nitro. But joining me in studio this morning, as I promised earlier
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this weekend yesterday, Danny Jones is back with him this one. Danny,
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good morning, how you doing. Good morning. I was this is the
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Vietnam Wall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in Spener probably ten
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twelve years ago and the mayor's we were meeting up there and they bought the
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wall there and Lisa Dully, the lob who ran our believe, she says,
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will you make a speech about the wall? And I said, sery
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will. But in the hour before I had to speak, I didn't have
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anything to do, and I started looking at that wall. I lost it
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and I got up. I couldn't. I couldn't get it together. I
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just couldn't. I was born after just after the Vietnam War ended officially.
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But still I've been to DC, I've seen the wall. I've been to
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many memorials. Um. I don't even have a lot of close family that
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served, but there's just something about it when you go there. It's it's
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the is the it is the weight of history that just lies on you there.
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And we have Joe stevens Now. So let's go ahead and go to
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Joe real quick and and find out what's going on in Nitro. Joe,
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good morning, how you doing this morning? First off, very well,
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the monument is here in Nitro now, the War memorial, Danny, thank
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you so much for your service. You've always been a supporter of the service,
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folks, and we appreciate it. Where is the wall? The wall
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will be criminal place, Danny in the Nitro Wars Museum, which is on
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twentieth three, and it will be erected today and people can start coming see
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it about three or four o'clock this afternoon, and we are open Monday through
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Friday from noon until four and we will be open on Memorial Day. Right
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now, Babe Simmons of the Vietnam Council of West Virginia is speaking. We've
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got about two hundred elementary school students out here. It's just going to be
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it's it's a real important day for the city of Nitro's history. That's outstanding,
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and so there's still time. There's going to be festivities that are going
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on all day to day until you can actually go through its permanent home and
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see it. And it's a new situation after three o'clock or so, but
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the folks wanted to roll down there to see some of the festivities that's it
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taking place before then. There's still plenty of things going on, a lot
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of things going on, but the big thing is the more memorial. We're
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setting it up and getting it and people in about a couple of hours it
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will take and they can start and coming in deserved Dale. Thanks for making
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sure we got the word out about it again. A real, real important
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day in the city of Nitro. And I'll tell you what he's uh,
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elementary school students are very attentive of what's being chatted about. I've got to
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go all right, thanks man, I appreciate it. That's Joe Stevens letting
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us know what's going on with that wa memorial going to to nightro that's a
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that's a neat thing that that's going to have a home there now, unbelievable.
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And there I have two friends on there that how at Tasco with and
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one of them was guy named David Groves and he h was in He was
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in the senior class with Bob Wise. Bob Wise was a senior in high
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school and I was a sophomore. And I remember David Gers like yesterday.
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So we'll open up the phone lines now. Dani's gonna here all hour.
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I don't have anything else planned. Danny has some things that we had talked
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about and we're going to present so or he's going to present a few thoughts
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that we have about some things that are going on currently, how things have
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changed a little bit. You're more than welcome to call in. Open it
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up. Anything you want to talk about this morning, anything that's in state
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or national politics, anything you want to talk to Danny or me about.
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So what's going on on? You've had a lot of stuff on your mind,
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and uh, we're getting I'd like to give you an outlet over here
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every once in a while. What's going on, Danny? Well? First
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thing? This morning? The governor, Oh yes, was on the Hugh
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Hewett Show. And I watched it. It was it was on. I
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could watch it on video and Hugh Hewett is a national talk show. Sees
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was Salem. And I have a buddy that that has an office right beside
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his He's a really smart guy and he worked at the Clinton earned Clinton.
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He worked at the Nixon Library for years to help President Clinton a prison President
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Nixon. He helped ghost write some of those books. And he was under
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Reagan. He as a very young man. He was in charge of It's
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some big personnel job. But he had the governor on there this morning,
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and uh, he was smitten, you know, and the governor has a
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charm about him, and uh he said, he said, Governor, I
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used to come down to West Virginia and down to Charleston and you'd you'd go
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four ways and you'd run into four Democrats, and now it seems like it's
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the opposite with the Republicans. He said, what made the change, Barack
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Obama, That's what did it. Yeah, that's what did it. You
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and uh he talked about and he talked about Joe Manton. You gotta call.
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Yeah, we do. Let's go ahead, we want to go do
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that. Okay, let's go ahead and get Tom on the line. Who's
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called in this morning to talk to to talk today? Any Tom? Good
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morning? How you doing this morning? Good thing? One, I'm really
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missing his ribs. And second, if he was the governor, what he
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would do about the state police situation? Oh? Interesting question? Okay,
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all right, all right, thank you Tom. I'll get into it.
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Um. I think that first thing the culture the same way I did that
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the Sheriff's department. I put a chief deputy there that had been a State
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treat Police trooper and he was in charge of criminal investigations. And his name
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was Larry Harold. He still with us, and he changed everything with eighteen
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months. The Sheriff's department was a different place. And I think the culture
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starts at the top. I mean, the work is at the bottom,
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but the culture starts at the top, and it can eminate the type of
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leadership you provide is is what you wind up with. I don't know all
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the details of what happened there, but if they had people that were that
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were watching women take showers, yeah, what is that? I mean state
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police First, I think it's a felony, and I mean I don't that's
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a culture. I don't. And this is supposed to be law enforcement.
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I mean, that's like a seedy hotel owner or something. I mean to
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think about that at a state police bar exit. And the primary concern of
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that is is more than substantial enough when you have people that have cameras in
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locker rooms watching women get dressed in shower and things like that, that that
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is bad enough on its own, But to me, it also indicates if
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that was being done, I mean, there's virtually no limit to what else.
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I mean, what else is unknown right now, because I mean that's
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a pretty low moral bar. I mean, that's a pretty low moral bar.
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That means that there's a lot of room for other activity that is,
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you know, equal low, low moral stature. To me, it concerns
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me nobody was running the show. That's what I see in this whole thing.
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So so culture, you'd have to adapt somebody that would help up the
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culture. Yeah, it's it's leadership and it's um there's ways to deal with
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it. It would take a while, but you have to You can't just
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sit in Charleston or you have to be out there, and you have to
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have a strong staff, you know, that is culturally prone to do the
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right thing. Did you want to go back to the justice being? Yeah,
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he said, Uh. He was asking about Joe Manchon and he says,
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I assume you get along with Joe Man. Yeah. I like Joe
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and he's a nice guy. But he's got charm and charisma. But uh,
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and he's one quite a few races here, but he ain't gonna win
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this one, you know. And the problem the governor has and is this
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Club for Growth. They're gonna put ten million dollars in this there, and
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he's against Mooney. So the question becomes this, folks, you really think
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Mooney cares? Do you think Mooney or the Club for Growth give up care
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at all about Virginia? You know, I was sixty years old before West
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Virginia was a twinkle an Alex Mooney's eye. And uh, I just so
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that I'm going to help the governor in the primary. Now if if Joe
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runs, I'll go over there. I think Joe's looking at that president.
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He's looking there's no labels, people pretty hard. I think, well,
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we'll see what And to me anyway, I know Joe hasn't said this,
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but to me anyway, he's been the positioning for this for a while.
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I think, and and maybe Justice getting into the race was sort of his
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because that's a I mean, I know Joe has ultimate confidence in himself,
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and he should. He's a good politician, he's well funded and everything.
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But you know, justics a little different animal than what he's telling This time.
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It's not gonna be like twenty eighteen. This time the Republicans at the
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top of the ticket, and um, the Republican's gonna sweep through West Virginia
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like crazy sou will. You know, let's see what happens. I just
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um, And I don't want him to get mad at me because I really
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do like Joe. I really do consider him a friend. Hope he considers
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me one. So yeah, it is an interesting it'll just be an interesting
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race. It's something that that you want to uh, we want to keep
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our eyes on and that we want to uh and we want to UH,
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we're going to be covering it. That's the bottom minding the primary. That's
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right, We're focusing on the primary and UH and UH it's going to be
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competitive and it's going to be big. I had a political commentator on yesterday,
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Andrew Donaldson, who's UH promoted him Winning Your Own his show, but
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he writes for a couple of national outlets. But he made he lives in
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North Carolina, He's from West Virginia. But he made the point that the
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Club for Growth and the strategy that are going to be deploying it is exactly
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the strategy that the same picks used to get Ted budd Um elected in North
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Carolina because he had a similar type of primary challenge when when he got elected.
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And it's this strategy is a well known strategy to to basically just dump
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all that money into to uh for for a business person and unearthing all of
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these uh, these things that are behind the scenes looked. I've had differences
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with the governor, but I mean, who do you think they can control
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the Club for Growth? Why do you think they're picking mooney? You know
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it is what it is, so yeah, that's very true. Danny Jones
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in three zero four, three four five fifty eight fifty eight. No cause
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right now. So we're gonna wait just a moment. And there's a few
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things that we wanted to talk, and I wanted to I've told people at
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nauseam head infinitem to try. If you're a Republican or Democrat for that matter,
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watch the nineteen sixty four Goldwater Sceptance speech, because if you're a Republican,
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with foreign policy, okay. So it is our cause to dispel the foggy
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thinking which avoids hard decisions, in the delusion that a world of conflict will
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somehow mysteriously resolve itself into a world of harmony if we just don't rock the
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So the next one, the next one has to do with with telling the
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truth and and about Democrat years and the difference go ahead. That has been
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during democratic years that our strength to the Tior war has tod still and even
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gone into a planned decline. It has been during democratic years that we have
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weakly stumbled into conflict, timidly refusing to draw our own lines against aggression,
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deceitfully refusing to tell even our own people of our full participation, and tragically
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letting our finest men die on battlefields unmarked by purpose, unmarked by pride?
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Are the prospective victory? Yes yesterday, that was covered young tonight. It
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the rug. We are at war in Vietnam. And yet the president,
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who is the commander in chief of our courses, refuses to say, refuses
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to say, mind you, whether or not the objective over there is victory.
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Secretary of Defense continues to mislead and misinformed the American people. I don't
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enough of us gone by, So that that was that was the truth that
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should have been carried out of that speech, because Johnson wasn't in McNamara.
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They were, they were way, they were way apart from the truth.
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But instead this is what carried the day, this particular clause go on gl
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our Republican isn't so focused and so dedicated, not being made fuzzy and feudal
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by unthinking and stupid labels. I would remind you that extremism and the defense
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of liberty is no vice. That was that applause went on for a while,
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and then after that he said moderation in the pursuit of justice isn't a
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virtue. But the press, that was the speech, extremism and defensive liberty
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is no vice. And they were putting the Republicans were putting up billboards that
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said in your heart, you know he's right, and the Democrats put up
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a billboards said in your guts, you know he's nuts. And that was
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how they painted Goldwater during that campaign. And Rock he was good friends with
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of all people, remember Robin McNeil, McNeil lair not oh yeah, yeah,
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okay, yeah, okay, And he covered Goldwater and they got to
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be friends. But he says, I just couldn't vote for him, and
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uh, two years later he said I shouldn't have voted for him. So
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go ahead. We'll have a little bit more on this a little bit later
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on. But Brian has called him this morning. He has a question of
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comment for Danny as well. Briman, good morning, how are you doing.
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Good morning, gentlemen, how are you doing good. It's amazing that
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we went from Goldwater and extremism and the defensive liberty is not advice to being
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woke. Well, um, the reason the reason I called Danny, you
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said that if Joe got in the race, you would go over there.
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I think we're your words. He's got a couple of visuals that he's got
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to deal with in order to get by the people of West Virginia. One
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is when he started to stand up and give a pause to one of the
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lines in Trump's address, and Schumer glanced at him and set him down while
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he was about halfway up. It was embarrassing. The other is when President
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Biden handed Joe mentioned that pen that he signed that awful bill with, and
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Mansion treated that like somebody had handed him a grenade with the pen pulled.
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He knew exactly what he meant. He tried his best to give that pen
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to Schumer, and Schumer wouldn't take it, and so he had to put
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it in his pocket. He's gonna he's gonna have to answer to some things
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that are just absolutely untruth and thank thank you, thank you, Brian.
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Look appreciate Brian. I'll be seventy three this summer and today, by the
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way, marks twenty nine years of fighting the urge to consume alcohol twenty nine
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years. But thank you, And but I told Joe about that. But
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I'm at the time in my life where a friendship means more to me,
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and being true to myself means more to me. So if I'm poor Joe
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Mansion, it won't be because I'm against anybody else. And if if more
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capital than run the governor's race, I may go to Huntington. I'm not
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sure about that one yet, but we'll find out. What's interesting, even
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on Brian's critique there is there wasn't really anything policy based on that. It
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was a look that Schumer gave him. And then this thing with the Inflation
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Reduction Act. And I would be interested in a legitimate bait, not among
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politicians, but maybe among West Virginian citizens about the Inflation Reduction Act, because
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there is movement in this state that a lot of people have been taking credit
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for that is attributed a lot to what went on there. It would be
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an interesting discussion. But the optics, yeah, of course, optics,
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of course are are searing into one to mine and because again you can't do
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that anymore, that optic of him with Schumer Pelosi, the people he caucus
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with. Yeah, is is a killer. It's a loser, But that's
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that doesn't that doesn't mean I have to be betray my friendship with him,
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and I did it in twenty and eighteen. He barely got through. Here's
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kind of what I what I wonder about this. There's a lot of people
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that talk about Jim Justice running for governor on the national stage, and you
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mentioned it as well, that he has um no idea what's coming for him
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because the national people are gonna get involved with this. Locally, nobody here
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has cared about any of this stuff that's attached to the to governor Justice.
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They don't care about his debts, they don't care about slow paying build they
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don't care about any of that stuff. They've elected him overwhelmingly each time.
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They don't care about that at all. I just kind of think that the
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people to vote for Mansion are the same way. They know that he caucuses
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with Democrats, they know that Schumer's gonna occasionally handle hand him the pen.
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They know that this isn't new about Joe now. The cultures knew that that
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we have in politics now. But I don't know. I know that it's
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bad optically, but it's bad optically for the people that already don't like Mansion.
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The people that we get text for all the time on the Hobbies text
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line that caused him a communist Democrat or whatever. Those are the people the
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optics are bad for. They're not going to put for him anyway. The
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people in the Canall County Democrats. They had their office on the corner of
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Courrier and Dune Bursary and it was just a few few doors down for me.
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And I got to know a lot of those people, and they're very
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good people. And I'm sorry, Senator Sellings, yea, i'd beat.
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But there's also the purity police on the Democrats side. Oh yeah, and
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they don't care. They don't, they don't. They wouldn't vote for Joe
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Mansion for nothing. And that's on the left. Yeah. Now on the
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right, he's got people like me, they're friends. But I'm not seeing
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it. I'm just not seeing a day a lot. I mean, I'll
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be there with him, you know, better than me. I'm just I
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think that it's that a lot of these people, I mean, what baggage
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does Joe have that people don't know about? I just don't think there is
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anything. They've been waiting. Yeah, yeah, now that's true. That's
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true. There's for people that's been waiting for it. And and and frankly,
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as much as they're friend of mees um with the Justice and Mansion,
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the Justice are one of those people that's been waiting for a shot. He
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said that he got along wail with Joe, but but but that it's I
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think they're friend of Me's I think they're friend of me. He's not gonna
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yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah, I think that's about right.
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I think we have a call on line. Is it Joe from Charleston?
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It's Jim from I'm sorry, Jim, go ahead, Jim. What's what
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do you have for Danny Well? He helped me out a lot, and
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I like Danny a lot, and I'm I'm wondering what what's your reaction to
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my question regarding the media and its influence in politics on like the local level
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and then the national level. You need to talk about optics and another caller
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mentioned two instances where Mansion, you know, showed some not two positive optics
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and it's how the optics are treated. What do you think Danny Well locally,
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I think we're okay media wise. I think that first thing, nobody
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does better than this news crew in this building. But I think that channel
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I'm partial Channel eight, but Markers is over at thirteen, and I mean
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Channel three, I think they're fine. I don't dave any problem nationally.
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You know, there was a book written about nineteen seventy named The Left Leaning
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Antenna and it was written by a guy named Joseph Keiley, and he describes
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how the antenna leans left and on one thing he attributed to is the concentration
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of the media in big urban areas. And these people hang out together,
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they drink together, they sleep with each other. I mean, these are
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people that are are in the same fraternity and they look at things the same
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to get out well. And Roger Ailes from more In, Ohio, which
26:34
is where Hugh Hewitt is from. Um, he wanted to do something different
26:40
and that's why Fox News came along. He wasn't looking so much for a
26:42
conservative bent. He was looking more for a mid middle of the America bent.
26:48
I mean, I read this before he got in trouble. So what
26:52
happened as far as that goes, Because it's not middle, it's not a
26:55
close. No, it's um it got worse because if we talk about if
27:00
we talk about left leaning on the national political level, there's no question that
27:03
conservatives have carved out their own bubble, their own media, and they participate
27:07
and live within that, just as equally Fox is the conservative station and News
27:14
Mix n I mean, all of these live and kind of pretend worlds,
27:18
just like MSNBC lives in the pretend Trump the Arrangement world. I mean,
27:21
these are these are fantasy worlds. That's their brand, though, that's all
27:25
those people, that's their brand. News Max has about one hundred thousand people
27:27
watching them. Yeah, I know, but but they're crazy, they are.
27:32
But Fox, like they had the night everybody got a big deal about
27:37
Tucker Carlson. He had three million listeners. When Bill O'Reilly left with no
27:42
commercials because even the Pillar Guide dumped him, he had four million listeners.
27:48
These platforms are not going to last. And all you have to do is
27:52
look at the age of the people in the in the ratings that are watching
27:56
them, the key demographic and you know this better than I am, what
28:02
twenty five to fifty four or something like that. They don't get any they
28:06
get very little of it. Those those kind of programs. Look at the
28:08
commercials that they air, and those are the demo that you get. People
28:11
are looking to go to platforms. And one who's been very successful to Megan
28:17
Kelly. You know, she's on YouTube and she's got her own talk show
28:21
in other places, and that's what people are looking for. That's why Joe
28:26
Rogan so successful. People are looking for platforms. This guy that comes on
28:30
here at noon every day, he's pushing all the different aspects of his platform.
28:36
You know, he's not my favorite, but but anyway, that's what's
28:41
going to happen. Let me say this just in that space, and I'll
28:44
say something kind about about Rush Um because I liked Rush, and I just
28:48
want to say the one thing that from beginning to end that I could always
28:52
count one for rushing them ball is he loved radio. He loved radio,
28:57
and every not everybody that's in that space actually loves radio. Rush. I
29:00
loved radio, and I love radio, and you love radio. And Rush
29:06
got fired from six different radio stations. Still loved it, and just listening
29:10
to radio is having fun. Yea, and the guys on the air were
29:12
having fun. But I'm telling you now and This is very important. These
29:17
platforms are not gonna last. Radio will last? Radio will last? I
29:22
agree with you, and they will be the platforms that will. And by
29:26
the way, that AM stuff out on none not Now, what's up?
29:32
They've changed it? Oh, they they've already. Ford has already said they're
29:36
gonna put as you know, people don't. Everybody talks about the you know,
29:41
the the natural resources with their lobbying groups and everybody with their the lobbrary
29:45
groups, National Association of Broadcasters or no or no whimps when it comes to
29:48
that sort of things. And we have the facts on our side. What
29:49
are you gonna do with E S? If you get rid of AM radios?
29:52
What are you gonna do with E s? The emergency alert system is
29:55
built on the AM signal. What do you gonna do with it? You
29:56
can't take it out of the cars. You can't. You just can't.
30:00
Yeah, Yeah, So we're gonna be there. It may be in a
30:00
different delivery system. There's things that we have in the in the works here
30:03
to make sure that we're always going to be relevant and on top of the
30:07
things there. But you're not getting rid of AM. Ready, those late
30:08
night talk shows I don't care what's side they're on. MSNBC's about half commie,
30:14
and then you've got Fox who's I did stay up and watch Trey Gallery
30:18
last night interview Ron de Santis. It was very good, very interesting to
30:22
Santa's needed to have some spec because his Twitter thing was at a disaster.
30:26
Well, but that wasn't his fault. No, it wasn't. It wasn't,
30:29
but it was a disaster though. I Mean. The one thing I
30:32
like about him, and I'm not taking sides, I like the fact that
30:37
he's the only one of all these candidates that has any military experience. Usually
30:42
all of them had it all four President Roosevelt's kids had a tide of the
30:48
I'm talking about FDR had a tide of the military. I don't I don't
30:51
get this. Yeah, it's not it's not at all something that has looked
30:55
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30:56
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the phone lines right now. Joe this time has called in from Charleston.
34:32
Has a question or comment for Danny. Joe, good morning, how you
34:35
doing this morning? Good morning guys, Danny had heard you on the radio
34:37
for a while. Thank you. Just a couple of first things put out
34:42
of the way, Danny. Congratulations cleaning sober and thank you for your service.
34:47
Buddy, Yes, sir, A couple comments there about you know,
34:54
left right, leaning, Joe's going this way and Moony's at I like to
35:01
think of myself as a conservative, middle of road West Virginia and little right
35:07
of little right of center. Yeah maybe, I mean. The thing of
35:12
it is, I'm a very libertarian. I believe in everybody having their own
35:16
rights. And if somebody wants to do something and it doesn't tread on me,
35:21
I think of Patrick Henry. I may not agree with what you say,
35:23
but I'll defend with my wife. You're right to say you would have
35:27
liked gold Rutter because he was the ultimate conservative libertarian. Go ahead, go
35:30
out with your commentary. But the thing of it is, when we look
35:34
at things that's affecting West Virginia, and I think Joe has really alienated himself
35:38
from West Virginia. He's going to have a hard hurdle to come over there.
35:43
But my family is mixed, and I look at things hitting everybody across
35:47
the big picture in DC and the swamps it's up there. And just because
35:52
the color of my skin or to uncolour my skin, I'm not a racist,
35:57
but because I'm like, have my guns, I'm not a mass murderer.
36:01
Okay. And but if a woman wants to have something done. That's
36:07
her right. But I believe in the Bible, and I believe I'm not
36:09
going to push my issues on them. But I think I think the thing
36:14
that people are missing is and the silent majority. And I think that's one
36:20
of the things that Trump hit on. I like America. I mean,
36:24
Danny, you served, you signed that contract to put your life on the
36:29
line, and you swore an oath to the Constitution to America, and you're
36:34
a You're a great American. And people these to quit bash in America because
36:38
of America, And that's just it. We're not a bad country. If
36:43
we were a bad country, we wouldn't have millions coming across the borders trying
36:46
to get in here. All right, Well, Joe, that's that's good.
36:50
Thank you very much for calling the show this morning. Um, let's
36:52
can we do those others sound Yeah, yeah, I know you want to
36:54
get to Let me try to make the transition here. You heard Goldwater early
37:00
now from sixty four to nineteen eighty, Like George Will said, we didn't
37:07
really lose the election to sixty four. We just finally counted the votes in
37:12
nineteen eighty. But the change that was made to the Republican Party came in
37:16
with Reagan. He bought the religious right and it started at this great gathering
37:23
of these evangelicals and their lead speaker was Ronald Reagan. So play that James
37:30
Robinson was the one that introduced him, and he was a firebrand. Then
37:36
he's in his eighties. Now let's listen to that first sound bite. If
37:42
the righteous, the pro family, the moral, the biblical, the godly,
37:50
the hard working and the decent individuals in this country stay out of politics,
37:57
who on this earth does that leave to make the policies under which you
38:01
and I live and struggle to survive. So um, Then he talked a
38:09
bit. Now, if you go to his website, the speech is on
38:13
here. I'm going to give you the part they cut out. They took
38:15
this out of the speech. Interesting, yeah, and because he talked about
38:20
the different people that had carved out their place and did did we want to
38:24
let them beat us go? And the perverse and the liberals and let us
38:30
and the communist coming on the cause it's it's Heinberg people to come out of
38:36
the calls. He must. So Reagan was there and at the end of
38:45
both of those those uh that he got a standing ovation. Plus behind him,
38:52
you had all the Jerry Folwell and and um Reverend Kennedy from down in
38:57
Fort Lauderdale. He was there and he's passed them. My father used to
39:00
watch him on television, but he was That's when it changed. That's when
39:10
I believe that's when it changed, and Reagan made this happen. You remember
39:15
seventy six. It didn't happen because I think kind of started with Jesse Helms
39:21
of all people, because he helped Reagan in seventy six. Reagan almost beat
39:25
an incomebent president in eighty he had to think pretty well sewn up, and
39:31
he bought all these folks in here, Richard Vigory, who was an analyst
39:37
and a Republican person that kind of handicapped all these things. He said,
39:42
Goldwater's carve out of that conservative libertarian would have never been a majority. It
39:51
was only when they added the religious right that they made a majority. And
39:58
it's still loosely there today. Now there's a lot of libertarians, like myself,
40:01
they're a little uncomfortable with that. I feel that that the marriage of
40:07
politics and religion has made politics more or made religion more political, and not
40:13
politics more religious. Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't argue with
40:16
that, but I have you know, I have a lot of friend they
40:19
were texting with me. They're very rare religious people. And I have one
40:23
well known friend that he uh, he texted me and he says he couldn't
40:29
vote for Trump again. He voted for and twice he couldn't do it again.
40:31
Here's one of the things that's weird. And I remember this time.
40:34
I was a young man, of course, but I remember this time.
40:36
I'm going to my church. I grew up Baptist, and I remember as
40:39
a child the sea change of messages always being um, your home faith,
40:47
um, you bullwark your family at home, you teach how to pray,
40:51
you teach how to respect you. You know, basically the ten Commandments,
40:53
the Bible, biblical living. You chat at your home, shouldered your shoulder
40:58
exactly. Um. And then when it came to the school thing, my
41:01
church anyway, was a strong proponent of keeping religion out of school. Now
41:05
this might say, I don't mean this to defend anybody, but hey,
41:07
I grew up Southern Baptist. So what was said that from time to time,
41:10
You don't know if that school teachers at Presbyterian. Well, when when
41:14
I went to Rember, I was born in nineteen fifty, so through great
41:17
school, we said the Lord's Prayer when we got there and didn't think a
41:23
thing about it. And then Madeline Murray O'Hare came along and she challenged it
41:30
and prevailed. And I'll tell you something. As somebody that wants to speak
41:35
about the separation of church and state, she was a very poor spokesman.
41:39
She was evil, she was mean, and she finally somebody killed her.
41:45
I mean the kidnapped her and killed her. She was just she was on
41:47
with Donahue and it's just she was so much. I just don't see how
41:52
The easiest argument, isn't it that we're a country full of religions. If
41:55
you and our constitution says you have to treat each one of them equally,
42:00
Yeah, how could you possibly give proper equal uh distribution of each of those
42:06
religions if you put it into a school set, you cannot. That's why
42:08
that's at home and you remove that stuff from the school so the so the
42:12
family can teach how you want. If you if you listen to this speech
42:16
about James with James Robinson, he does not agree with what you do.
42:21
I know, No, no, no, no, they don't because and
42:23
frankly, the religious right reads religion as Christian, not as all religions.
42:28
It's Christian, they don't. They don't want the muslim to have equal rights
42:31
with the Christians. They don't want the Buddhists to have equal rights with Christians.
42:35
I think the Jews are okay, aren't they Maybe, but a lot
42:38
of Jews abortion is a part of there is a part of what they do,
42:42
though, feel that that's their religious lighten this thing up. Yeah,
42:46
yeah, yeah, sure. Goldwater was half Jewish. Yeah. And in
42:52
Phoenix where he grew up, you know, he played a little golf and
42:54
there was a country club that wouldn't allow Jews in the country club, and
43:00
so he went there and he says, I'm half Jewish. Gonna blame nin
43:02
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Cooper. Thinks a ton for listening this morning and for interacting. Got a
46:07
couple of text messages. Let me get through these. We'll get back to
46:09
Danny Jones in just a moment. Danny is here with us this morning.
46:13
Text message Cooper, this is for Danny, Coop. Danny needs to look
46:16
at who the best conservative candidate is instead of who his best friend is.
46:21
Mansion is very charismatic individual but follows the damaging left wing ideology of Democrats.
46:25
Well, when you get to be my you'll you'll understand that friendship means more
46:30
than politics. And I have told Joe, and I've said it on this
46:36
air, probably to his detriment. I don't see how he can pull it
46:39
off. That doesn't mean I desert my friends. I'm sorry. Just like
46:44
if if, if they put that Attorney general to be the Republican candidate,
46:47
I'm going to be for Steve Williams if we just get two votes, if
46:52
he runs, or I don't know what's going to happen over on that side.
46:53
But you don't know what a fine person he is, Steve, absolutely,
46:59
Look, you cannot imagine what a decent person. By the way,
47:02
Bryant, let me tell you some you. I had a picture on my
47:07
Facebook of me and Joe and Mike Tobin. Mike Toby used to work for
47:15
Channel three over here. He and I used to New Stories together. Now
47:16
he's with Fox, and he was in my restaurant and there was three of
47:20
us talking there, and I set up hanging out with the big dogs,
47:23
and then Brian had to get negative about it and start bad. You know,
47:29
back off Bryant, you know, get a life. I mean not
47:34
everything's about politics. Get a friend that's a Democrat, geez. But from
47:39
the three or four six one zero on the text line as well, the
47:42
core Republican Party is Christian fundamentalism and nationalism. You'll do what we believe in
47:46
what we say the core Democratic Party as individual freedom. It's your fundamental right
47:51
to live how you want unless it harms others. These things osculates. The
47:54
libertarian position of living your life seems to be the most popular thing that the
47:59
libertary roll out. They've never really get their stuff together as a party.
48:02
Um, And because that's the most popular aspect. You have Conservatives that try
48:07
to take a bite out of where the party of personal freedoms, and you
48:09
have Democrats that I try to take a bite out of where the party of
48:12
personal freedoms. There isn't a party of personal freedoms right now. I'm sorry,
48:15
it doesn't exist. Libertarians would be against gun control Democrats or for it.
48:20
Libertarians would be for the pro choice autonomy. Sure, yeah, So
48:27
that that's the difference, and it's consistency. Actually, I mean, yeah,
48:30
I mean, if you'd start talking about that type of thing. But
48:34
I I just uh, I you know, I just enjoy I'm just trying
48:39
to enjoy my life. I love politics. I love watching it. I
48:44
mean, and I love moving the players around and handicapping the races and and
48:49
it's, um, it's a lot of fun. I enjoy coming over here
48:52
and talking to you guys. And right now, let me tell you.
48:54
You don't believe who I'm drilling down on now. Oh yeah, I always
48:58
love these who is it? Um, Philip Seymour Hoffman okay, and Truman
49:01
Capo man Man that is uh. Truman Cappode is endlessly fascinating, well,
49:07
just a fascinating individual. He was he was He was a guy that I
49:14
mean, according to Hoffin, he could look in the Eyeline Hoffan didn't know
49:17
him. I didn't know him, but he was. He said to do
49:22
his voice for that movie was a lot more complicated than what you think.
49:27
So you got a little feminine touch and you got a high pitched voice because
49:30
he was very gay. But it didn't more, it didn't come that easy.
49:34
It was very hard for him to do. Him to do Capodi,
49:37
and he struggled with it. You know, he struggled. It was hard
49:40
for him. And uh and you know, I get so upset that he
49:49
was taken away from us. We had a when I owned a bookstore in
49:52
Michigan, we had we would donate some of our We had this area in
49:55
the bike that was we caught of the tea room. But it has some
49:58
chairs and stuff like Okay, we would let book club use it from time
50:00
to time after hours so they could go back there and have their meetings and
50:02
stuff. And one of the book clubs that we gave the time to did
50:06
a series on Truman Compodi's books. I think they did two of them,
50:08
and then they would have a discussion and stuff like that. And I was
50:12
I wasn't part of the book club, but I would always be there putting
50:14
stuff inventory away or doing whatever. But I was. I learned more just
50:17
about eavesdropping when their group and I went back and read a bunch of books.
50:21
I'd read, um, what the Hell's Angels book? I think previously,
50:24
and then I read more after after after that went in Just a great
50:28
writer number one, and then when you learn about his life, just a
50:30
fascinating person. He was Truman Campodi was. He had a on this book
50:37
in cold Blood. He wanted the thing over with so he could finish the
50:42
book. I e. He wanted them did right, I mean, I
50:47
mean and he did not watch the execution like the movie said he did,
50:52
but he uh And I don't think he fell in love with the Perry guy
50:57
or whatever it was. But he did get into Perry, the the darker
51:01
one, you know, the one that actually did the murder at the behest
51:05
of the other guy, And he got into his head, you know,
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and he was able to get him to tell stuff that he wouldn't do.
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It was a gift and Capodi was a very interesting character. And if you're
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a Republican conservative, our our type, you probably wouldn't want to dig into
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this stuff. I'm also into Marlon Brando because of what he said about acting.
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We're all actors. Yeah, I'm a different person on the radio than
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I am in my apartment or when I'm down there working out. We're all
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actors, he said. When the salesman goes out and approach to somebody,
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they're they're acting. So anyway, that's the good stuff, everybody. We'll
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have Danny back soon. Last tax that came in. Let's see from the
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three through A four, three eight nine. Reason why all these WV Dems
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have become Republicans, it is because machines took over my jobs and unions lost
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their base. Yeah, I mean it might be a part of it.
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I don't know. Thanks for calling in this morning. Really appreciate all of
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the interaction in the comments, and appreciate Danny Jones coming in. Of course.
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Coming up next is going to be Happy Kircheville and talk Line at the
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Derek Dennis. Time is running out to raise the dead limit before the federal
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government goes into default. Already Fitch Credit Ratings putting the government on a negative
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without a deal by next week, the Treasury Department warns the federal government may
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indeed default for the first time. Negotiators back at the White House racing to
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