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Episode 471 - AI Ads, Doom on a Pregnancy Test & The Death of Trust Online · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the tech Talk Radio Network.
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  Speaker 2: Hey what's up. This is Tom Arnold and you're listening
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  Speaker 2: Hey, how about a copy of Windows? Can I get
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm justin let me. It's
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  Speaker 1: good to see all three of you. Help you're uh
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  Speaker 1: that would be all three of us. Yeah, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say where wait? Where is somebody else we're missing here?
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  Speaker 1: We well, we invited Matt. We thought Matt was going
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  Speaker 1: to be able to join us again this week, but no,
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  Speaker 1: Matt's he has an electrician at his house, so hopefully
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  Speaker 1: he has electricity. That could be the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: don't he does it. Maybe he does it, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't been able to really talk since the big game.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the Super Bowl game took place. What do
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  Speaker 1: you just want to know? What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 2: Not a football fan? So I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of was.
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  Speaker 2: It was on and life went on. There were a
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  Speaker 2: couple of good ads, there were a couple of bad ads.
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  Speaker 2: Hit or miss every year. I wish we could go
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  Speaker 2: back twenty years to when nobody knew what the ads
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  Speaker 2: were going to be. Yeah, exactly, no spoilers, no early releases,
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  Speaker 2: no previews, no, none of that. And you were just
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  Speaker 2: shocked at what came out on TV. And those are
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  Speaker 2: the days of the good Dorito ads. Snickers had good ads.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's just corporate AI slop at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Giredo's always had like great and Budweiser they also had
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  Speaker 1: of course great ads as well. But yeah, it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like what surprised me this year, and I know if
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  Speaker 1: you caught them, but the AI ads which were freaking
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  Speaker 1: people out because there's a lot of them. These were
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  Speaker 1: not ads that utilized AI. Well they did to a
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  Speaker 1: certain extent, but they were ads purporting Okay, we've got
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  Speaker 1: this AI model coming out, We've got this AI model
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  Speaker 1: coming out. These people are there watching a football game.
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  Speaker 1: There was one exception of that. I do. I did
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  Speaker 1: like how Anthropic, which was is the maker of Claude.
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  Speaker 1: I do like how they poked fun at Chad Gpt
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  Speaker 1: with the whole you know, putting ads in AI. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was and that was actually a pretty funny one.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen that one, just look up Claude
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl ad. Those were actually kind of funny. But no,
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  Speaker 1: there was there were countless ads that I saw that
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  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is this is AI. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're they're just they're just going cheap. I mean, first off, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's expensive to put a Super Bowl ad. I think
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  Speaker 1: what was it this year was fifty million dollars for
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  Speaker 1: thirty seconds? They said it was ten million. And then
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  Speaker 1: of course you've got to pay when you have tech
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  Speaker 1: like the duncan Ad you had to pay all those people.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, Jason Alexander and all those you had
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  Speaker 1: to pay all of them the money to be in
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  Speaker 1: the ad. That's not cheap. You don't get around that really.
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  Speaker 2: So it's probably like a fifty to one hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: ad campaign, depending on how much you want to spend
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty to one hundred dollars million, No, one hundred million.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't say a million, you just had fifty to
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  Speaker 1: one hundred. I'm like, a hundred year? Is it is?
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  Speaker 1: This Super Bowl one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? They had TV back then.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta tell you I'm sporting something I found.
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  Speaker 1: You guys do this. You start going through like boxes
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  Speaker 1: of stuff and you say, oh wow, look at that.
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  Speaker 1: I found that. And the old days you used to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get in the old days used to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get like Okay Manday posters and stuff
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  Speaker 1: for like tech companies. I still have Microsoft posters from
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  Speaker 1: going back to you know, Windows ninety eight and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. And I found this shirt. I found four
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  Speaker 1: of them in perfect condition, the old duel Dude, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna you remember the ad campaign, Dude, you're gonna get Adel. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting Adel. Yeah, oh yeah, oh my gosh. I
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  Speaker 1: found four of these shirts. I mean they were perfectly
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  Speaker 1: in a bag put away against you know what I can.
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  Speaker 1: I can certainly I think part with the other ones
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  Speaker 1: that we could all wear them at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: I think, so we're gonna have to do that. And
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  Speaker 1: again I did look on eBay and they are going
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  Speaker 1: for quite a penny penny oh, and really only one
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  Speaker 1: of them has been worn.
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  Speaker 2: And this was it was a fairly well known ad
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  Speaker 2: campaign for Dell. I mean it was every every Dell
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  Speaker 2: commercial had that you know, dude, you're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Do whatever happened to that guy, the dude, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: a Dell guy.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I'll research him in the break and figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: You do the Google feel on that and find out
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  Speaker 1: because that was a that was a great ad campaign.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about ads and that bit.
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  Speaker 2: So you're talking about good eggead campaigns, right. So there
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  Speaker 2: were some bad ad campaigns this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: So the one that stuck out the most was the
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  Speaker 2: ring camera ad. That Oh that actually that surprised everybody.
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  Speaker 2: That fell on everybody. Hey, what's okay? Your dog is missing?
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  Speaker 2: Uh oh, go to the ring app, type in your
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  Speaker 2: dog's name, maybe put a picture in there, and then
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  Speaker 2: hit send. And now it's using AI and it's searching
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  Speaker 2: every camera in your neighborhood for looking for your dog.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody that has it enabled, which if you read about it,
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  Speaker 2: it's enabled by default searching for your dog and it'll
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  Speaker 2: alert you your dog it has been found at so
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  Speaker 2: and so's address. Boo, it's been spotted and you can
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  Speaker 2: go track it down.
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  Speaker 1: They were, you know, they were showing that to tougue
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  Speaker 1: on the heartstrings, not realizing people are going, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us are saying, well, well wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, big brother.
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  Speaker 2: Hold what do you mean my camera can show somebod
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  Speaker 2: else's dog and report their location to them and given
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  Speaker 2: the feed, and like, can they see it live? Can
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  Speaker 2: they just get a picture? Do they get the video?
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  Speaker 2: Can they download it and keep it?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What if it shows something else on my property? That
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be out of left field for them to
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  Speaker 2: announce that had been no mention of it beforehand. I
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  Speaker 2: mean we knew they had been doing something similar to
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  Speaker 2: this with like the Amazon sidewalk piece and some other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you play Ring camera for our listeners
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  Speaker 1: that don't know Ring? I believe it's owned by Amazon
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  Speaker 1: now right, Yes, And they have this feature on Amazon
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people, I think they sign up
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  Speaker 1: they don't even know when they've got a smart device
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  Speaker 1: called sidewalk. A lot of people don't even know that
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  Speaker 1: what's sidewalk is all about.
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  Speaker 2: So think of it like, say you have an Amazon
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  Speaker 2: enabled device and it can it's its web reaches out
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  Speaker 2: to the side the sidewalk right outside your window, outside
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  Speaker 2: your house, et cetera. Somebody else walking by with the
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  Speaker 2: phone that has the Amazon ab installed can then sniff
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  Speaker 2: that and say, oh, there's an Amazon device use its
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  Speaker 2: data uses to upload to download, et cetera. All just
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  Speaker 2: because there's an Amazon device there, but that was the
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  Speaker 2: Amazon sidewalk. It's using your network, your Internet. It's yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the same thing that happens with UH with
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  Speaker 1: UH Exfinity, correct, If you have Exfinity Internet, you automatically
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  Speaker 1: have a built in hot spot for anybody that's walking
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  Speaker 1: by your house or anywhere within range of your home
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  Speaker 1: can connect to your Wi Fi and not necessarily your WiFi,
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  Speaker 1: but it's using your internet pipe. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how that actually works in terms of if somebody's searching
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  Speaker 1: some stuff that they shouldn't be searching or doing an
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  Speaker 1: illegal activities, it's going to come down on you because
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  Speaker 1: you're the account holder. Yeah, you could turn that off,
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  Speaker 1: but again do they let people know about that?
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  Speaker 2: But why would they? It's in the tos you signed
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  Speaker 2: up for it. Did you read it? No, nobody does.
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  Speaker 2: Squirrel scroll scroll click, Squirrel scroll scroll click. That's what
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  Speaker 2: everybody blows through the terms of service and they know that, right,
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  Speaker 2: they jam stuff into those terms of services that are
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  Speaker 2: not good for the consumer. And unlike other countries that
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  Speaker 2: are not on this continent, we have garbage user protection
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  Speaker 2: loss against that stuff where these types of things in like.
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  Speaker 1: The EU would be seen.
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  Speaker 2: By a judge and thrown out and say you can't
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  Speaker 2: do this, get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: You hear a lot about lawsuits the EU has done
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  Speaker 1: against Google, against Amazon, against some of these big against like.
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  Speaker 2: Big gaming companies that put in loot boxes because it's
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  Speaker 2: gambling targeted towards teenagers, that's illegal.
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  Speaker 1: In the EU. Well, I'm not in the EU, but other.
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  Speaker 2: Some countries in the EU, but like England, here we
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  Speaker 2: don't nobody cares. Parents don't care, kids can gamble, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, we can see where that systemic problem has
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  Speaker 2: brought us.
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  Speaker 1: There was talk this week about a lot of suit.
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  Speaker 1: This show's brought to you by DraftKings. There was a
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  Speaker 1: there was a lawsuit that was talked about this week
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how you guys feel about this
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  Speaker 1: where they're saying that streaming services that stream video YouTube
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  Speaker 1: one of them of course has the about with YouTube shorts.
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  Speaker 1: You're just constantly scrolling Oh my god, my kid is
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  Speaker 1: doing that all the time. Yeah, and YouTube shorts, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: stop watching this slop. Do you want to watch them?
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  Speaker 1: Watch an actual video, like a long form video. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's ten fifteen seconds, twenty seconds, maybe thirty at
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  Speaker 1: the most of just content and he just constantly scrolling
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  Speaker 1: through it. Maybe it's doing one now with reels where
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  Speaker 1: you'll watch a reel and you'll see, oh, I want
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  Speaker 1: to watch this, and you'll get about halfway through and
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  Speaker 1: boom there's an AD and okay, you wait for the
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  Speaker 1: the ad doesn't go away. You can't get back to
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  Speaker 1: that reel to finish it. So you scroll to the
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  Speaker 1: next one, and you scroll to the next one. Snapchat
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  Speaker 1: does it. Of course TikTok does it. But it's gotten
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  Speaker 1: to the point where there the EU said, n this
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  Speaker 1: is this is the wrong way to kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: absorb people in. So they felt that it was important
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  Speaker 1: enough that they had to file quite a big lawsuit
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  Speaker 1: against some of the companies that were doing this. But
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  Speaker 1: nothing in the US about that. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of parents know about the fact that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's built to just scroll next one, next one, next one.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of parents they say, okay, well, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get our kid a device. We want, you know, want
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  Speaker 1: them to be able to and it's true, you want
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  Speaker 1: them to know what is out there, but then again
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  Speaker 1: at what cost? You know, big story this week. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys caught this obviously, Nancy Guthrie's
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  Speaker 1: abduction from her home here in Tucson, Sean. Are you
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  Speaker 1: hearing this story out in Indiana?
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely out here. And I know that it has
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  Speaker 2: some I mean I don't watch a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: news and right now anyways, except the tech news, but
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  Speaker 2: I know that it involves some masked dudes on a
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  Speaker 2: ring cam and some other things and some blood and
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  Speaker 2: an abduction. And but uh, you know Nancy Guthrie's daughter.
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  Speaker 1: There or teared radio justin you you knew you worked
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  Speaker 1: with Savannah when she was just a beat reporter at Kagun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is it's there was so much
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  Speaker 1: AI misdirection that is being done so much at first,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the family when they finally got the video
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  Speaker 1: from from Google and they were able to post that video,
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  Speaker 1: there were people who were using AI to remove the mask.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the guy had that full mask on and
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  Speaker 1: people were thinking, oh, that's the guy. I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: that's an AI creation. What's some what's some a model
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  Speaker 1: thought maybe this guy could look like it's not the
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  Speaker 1: guy the other one. And I was talking with Gloria
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking about it today. I said, how
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  Speaker 1: did they get into the house? I want to know that,
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  Speaker 1: and she will. She opened the door for them, and
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  Speaker 1: I looked at her, I said, why would she open
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  Speaker 1: the door two in the morning. Well, they got video
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  Speaker 1: of her on the doorstep with him, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: that's Ai. That's not him, that's not her. That never happened.
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  Speaker 1: But so many of these videos get posted that people
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  Speaker 1: think that that's what happened, and that's that's not so. Again,
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  Speaker 1: Ais make it hard for us to trust anything we
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  Speaker 1: see anymore, anything I see online, I'm like, the first
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  Speaker 1: my first thought is is this is this Ai? It's
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous though it really truly is. It's like everything you see,
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  Speaker 1: You're just like, I don't know this is aar and
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  Speaker 1: I but I'm gonna say it's Ai. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: my question is is if there was a video of
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  Speaker 1: this person in front of this lady's house and they
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  Speaker 1: abducted her and there was blood at the front door,
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  Speaker 1: don't you think there would be a video of herb
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  Speaker 1: getting pulled out of the house as well? Well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: thinking there is stuff and I mentioned it last week
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  Speaker 1: on the show. I think there's stuff they're not showing
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  Speaker 1: us because number one, yeah, if they scrubbed the video
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  Speaker 1: for that time, there had to have been a car
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  Speaker 1: that was maybe passing by at that time, and we
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  Speaker 1: talked about that last week. Do they have this part?
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  Speaker 1: Now there's a push. There's a representative here in Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: I believe her name is Alma Hernandez that has issued
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  Speaker 1: a statement saying that she wants streamers to go home.
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  Speaker 1: There are streamers from around the world and around the
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  Speaker 1: country that have parked in front of the Guthrie home
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  Speaker 1: and they're streaming just constantly four to seven, constantly talking
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  Speaker 1: about what has happened, and then lots of false, misladying statements,
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  Speaker 1: even creating some of this AI that is, well, this
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  Speaker 1: person could look like this, here's what our model came
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  Speaker 1: up with. And that's nothing. That does nothing for You're
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  Speaker 1: not helping the investigation, No, not at all. So I
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  Speaker 1: saw something today too. It talked about you know, because
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  Speaker 1: Savannah's Savannah left the Today Show to deal with this
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  Speaker 1: family issue and now they're talking about and again I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much truth it is in this again,
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  Speaker 1: is nobody even trusts the media anymore? Period. But they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about Savanna's considering just leaving the Today Show indefinitely,
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  Speaker 1: just saying I'm done because something about she thought that
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing was because because of her high profile
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  Speaker 1: that made her family a target. I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that The other the other side
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  Speaker 1: of the thing was I've heard stories that this was
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  Speaker 1: a botched robbery, that they just picked a random house
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  Speaker 1: and it ended up being this house, and once they
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  Speaker 1: found out who it was, they were like, oh, and
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  Speaker 1: they didn't know what to do, you know, But like,
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  Speaker 1: it's just so much that's unknown about this. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's scary. I feel for the family, it really do.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm at record time on this at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the week. We don't know how this will play out.
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  Speaker 1: By the end of the week. It changes every day.
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  Speaker 1: So we're just hoping that if there is DNA definitely
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  Speaker 1: on that glove, that they were able to identify somebody
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  Speaker 1: and able to get her home. At least that's the case,
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  Speaker 1: which is interesting, you know, talking about the AI portion
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  Speaker 1: of all of this. We did get a listener question
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  Speaker 1: in from Laura in Tucson, but she says, it seems
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  Speaker 1: everywhere you turn around AI is a subject. My children
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  Speaker 1: are thirteen and fifteen and want to start looking at
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But where should they start or should I
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  Speaker 1: even go in that direction. We have a family computer
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  Speaker 1: that's always a great IDEA family computer that's right there,
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  Speaker 1: so you can see what they're doing on the computer,
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  Speaker 1: so they share time with and I want to get
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  Speaker 1: a feel for it as well. It's good mom, So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's good that they learn it. But for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's uncharted territory. Laura, what would we recommend in this case?
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, if you don't let them experiment,
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  Speaker 1: are they going to be missing out? Or would they
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  Speaker 1: be using the wrong models because somebody said, oh, try
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  Speaker 1: this model. You know, you look at what had happened
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  Speaker 1: with ByteDance and their model that was taking Hollywood celebrities
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  Speaker 1: and pitting them against easer each other and just throwing
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  Speaker 1: out the copyright for motion picture actresses and actors. I'm
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: not sure how I would answer this particular question at
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  Speaker 1: this very second, I'm thinking about it, but let me
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  Speaker 1: give an analogy while I'm thinking about it. All right,
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  Speaker 1: I liken this question to when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 1: when I was about thirteen fifteen, maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 1: older and wanting to do research, and I had to
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: use a encyclopedia, like an actual encyclopedia. Do you remember
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: what those were, oh, the humanity, Yes, the large bookcase
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: filled with like thirty or forty encyclopedias. And then comes
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  Speaker 1: along this wonderful little website called Wikipedia, where I could
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  Speaker 1: just search up anything I wanted and I could find
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  Speaker 1: the content that I needed. This is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: the new Wikipedia in a way, but way more powerful.
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe the fact checking was a little more
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  Speaker 1: intense on Wikipedia. I don't think that you are getting
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  Speaker 1: so many different sources it's hard to get the actual
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  Speaker 1: facts right. I mean, well, yeah, I mean Wikipedia has
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  Speaker 1: gone through a lot of stuff where people are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't trust Wikipedia. Anybody can edit it and it's
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: not always factual, and yeah, I get that. Yeah, it's
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the same thing. That's why I'm kind of likening this
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to Wikipedia, because Wikipedia is not perfect knit. Neither is AI.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I think with just like with any other technology or
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: societal vice, if you will, you just have to have
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: an open, honest conversation with your kids about it. Be open,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: be honest, don't sugarcoat it for them. Tell them there
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: are dangers about using AI, right, There's dangers about using
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: AI to manipulate things. There's dangers about AI to research things.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: You may find out things you don't want to find
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: out you don't you can't unread things unfortunately, Right, So
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: it's just being careful helping your kids navigate the wonders
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: of the Internet and being for them to answer questions
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: like hey, I found this, or hey, groc gave me
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: this prompt back. And it kind of terrified me having
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: those open conversations, making sure your kids can come to
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: you with the answer or the questions they have and
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I may not know them, if you know, my kids
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: aren't old enough to use the Internet, but when they are,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I hope that they can come to me and then
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they say, hey, I have this question about Grock or
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: whatever platform we're using. I may not know the answer,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: but I'll try my best to get the answer for
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: them and then help guide them through the challenges that
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it presents, like not letting them have unfetted access to
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: it like a lot of people are right now, and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: kids using AI to make deep fakes of their friends,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: get their friends in trouble.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Be certain they don't know. That's fun.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: So it's like choices, decisions, consequences. Right, there's this this,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: there's these levels you have to go through with this
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: type of technology with your kids. You have to communicate
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: with your kids. You cannot just let them sit at
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the computer unobated and let them run wild. If you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: see them prompting out, maybe put some safeguards in place.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there are printal guide guidance pieces
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: for this. You know, check up on them, see what
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they're prompting. Encourage conversation about Hey, you guys, were you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: if you're interested in this piece of technology or this
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: avenue of what you're shouting for, great, let's have a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: conversation about that. Or hey, this is kind of scary.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't be searching down this rabbit hole of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: the internet. So that's that's my advice is just be open,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: be honest, be involved with what your kids are doing
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: on the internet, and things are going to turn out just fine.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So, you know, speaking of AI and letting kids use AI,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I we've we've talked about this in the past.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I I've fought the battle of allowing my son Eric
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to play Roadblocks because Roadblocks has a lot of bad
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you know places, dark corners of Roadblocks. There's a lot
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of bad things out there. However, I've lost that battle,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and every one of his friends are playing Roadblocks. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I turned to the parental controls. I turned to AI
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to help me lock down Roadblocks. Yeah, and it's drastically helped,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Like I can allow him to play the certain games
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that his friends play, and I've already vetted these games
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yep, that's that's a that's an
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: okay one you can play. However, he came to me
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: and said, Dad, I want to make my own Roadblocks game.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Can you help me? I said, I can't because I
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: don't know how to use Roadblock Studio. This is this
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: is where people go. It's like you got Roadblocks the game,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and then you've got Roadblock Studio, which is where you
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: can go to create a Roadblocks game. And so every
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: game in Roadblocks is user created. It's created by either
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: individuals or companies really and they put it into the Roadblock.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So Roadblocks is not a game. Roadblocks is a platform
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: made by gamers. And so every game on Roadblocks is
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: included with the game. The game is free to play,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and then when you join a game, there's always going
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to be these you know, like Sean mentioned earlier, these
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: loot boxes and a little bit of gambling esque type
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of things, you know, with with with stuff. But that's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: just the way the world is. But he wanted to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: make a Roadblocks game and I said, I don't know
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: how to do that. Yeah, but I can tell you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: who does. And I told him, I said, if you
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: have a question like how do I make my character
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: move from point A to point B in Roadblock Studio,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I said, use chat gpt or use rock And so
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know what is that. I'm like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's like an assistant. It'll it'll help you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: He used chat gpt. He figured out how to use chattybet.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: And I watch him when he's doing this kind of stuff.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm always looking over his shoulder and I'm monitoring what
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: he's doing. He used chatgypt and he has a fully
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: functioning Roadblocks game. Wow. And I'm when when I'm talking
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: about making a game, I'm talking about actual coding, like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: real Python coding. He would go into Chattybet and say
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: how do I make a sound effect of a sword
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: clinking against another sword? And it would say, all right, yeah,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: do this code. He would just copy the code, put
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it into Roadblock studio and then he would test it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: out and bam, all of a sudden, ding ding d
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the swords would click. Wow, you got it. And it
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was something we didn't have when we were younger. And
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: just because it does so much, again, I still think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: you have to have the guardrails in you still, Like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Sean said, I think you still, But again, I mean,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: how cool is that is? How much time saved too.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I remember having to go to the library. We didn't
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: have encyclopedias. My parents couldn't afford that, so I'd go
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: to Hunting Beach Public Library, you know, and I would
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: search the archives there. Now you know kids like ten
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: years ago doing a decimal system. Oh yeah, look it
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: up on the computer on Wikipedia. And then you've got
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Google to be able to search stuff with. And now
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you've got the engines that not only find it for you,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: will provide more info for you. I mean, I've used
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it in my rate. I used the web, but my
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: radio career used to have books and then you had encyclopedias,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and then you had Wikipedia, and now I've got voice.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I could just ask it and say, hey, tell me
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: about this artist, and it will tell me or about
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a song. On playing it makes me sound like I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Sorry, listeners, actually, relias, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: should probably know this. This is a caveat. Andy is
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: actually sick right now. This is actually what you're hearing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: is an AI rendition of Andy. It we created an
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: AI boy Andy Andy perfect. But yeah, I think your
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: way of doing that and getting him to understand that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it can and he'll maybe, you know, learn how to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: create like he's done. Now, there's other things you could
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: have him fixed the plumbing in the house or you know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: maybe some gardening, yard work. Well you know, speaking of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the speaking of fixing the plumbing, Yeah, I actually, uh
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: are wash our dishwasher. It's it's having this weird squeal
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: when it when it starts to fill up the tub, right,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is causing that? So I went I
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: went to groc and I'm like, hey, what causes a
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: dishwasher to squeal? And it was like, yeah, it's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: failing inlet valve And it's pretty easy to fix. Here's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: how you fix it step one, two, three, four, And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, it'll even give you a link to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: a YouTube video or somebody. And I was like, my
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: response was, can you give me a link to a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: local plumber that works out perfectly? All right, listen, we
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: gotta take a break. We come back with more of
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: tech talk Radio. We got more listener questions. So big
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: news Apple, there you go. Justin Apple's got something coming
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: down a pike. We'll talk about that and more. I'm
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor, I'm Seonda wear It.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Find a link to Justin's plumber on our Facebook page.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin. Let me find us on the web
• 24:31
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• 24:34
  Speaker 1: now back to tech talk Radio.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to tech talk Radio. We got another listener question.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I know we just answered one of the last segments,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: but this one is right up my alley.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Question is from Susan and Green Valley. I missed some
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: of the old computer games I used to play. You
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: mentioned a website where I might find some of them.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I never had an Xboxer PlayStation. I played on Windows
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: ninety five. Where can I find these?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: So Susan, right up your alley, because this is the
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: era where I grew up playing on was Windows ninety five,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Windows ninety eight XP, you know the gambit. The platform
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that I use currently is called Good Old Games go
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: og dot com. It's a platform you can go on
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and they've done digital remasters of a lot of really
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: good classic games, all the Apergy games, all the Sierra
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Games games you never thought you would see again. Now
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: obviously it's not all of them, but it's a lot.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: They had the tomb Raider games on there, didn't.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: They correct, Yeah, they have the tomb Raider games on there.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Those also just got remastered and re released. If you're
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: looking for more further back than Windows ninety five, the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Internet archive is a great place to start.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we play them on there.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can actually run them in your browser
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: running Doss box. So if you want to play some
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of these older doss games, I mean there's thousands of
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: these games, right. Internet archive is a great place.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: How do you get to there? You just to go
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to Internet.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Archives that are good, or google Doss games Internet archives.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: The benefit of GG is that you can get the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: downloaders for the games and their DRM free meaning you
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: don't need to be running their platform to run it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna search for an internet connection to run it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You can download the games, put it on a flash drive,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: store it, install it, uninstalled it at your own at
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: your own free will. And that's the benefit of GGS.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You can get some of that DRM free stuff.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not con steamed, but this way you also.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Correct you own it. You own in a world where
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: digital ownership is is not a priority for a lot
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: of companies. This is this is kind of a shining
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: gem in the sand.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: The next piece of this, and this is this is
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: important because this happened last week. Who here, I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: both of you played it. Diablo two.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, relate it. Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Last week Blizzard held a Diablo thirtieth anniver free like
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a show piece, and they were showing off the new
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: class for Diablo four. Ah, this Warlock. It's the rate
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: of the Warlock. It's gonna be great. Also available for
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Diablo More and Diablo two. Wait wait, wait, hold on, wait,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: yeah what Diablo two. And they're like, oh, yeah, by
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the way, you can now play this Warlock in Diablo two,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: brand new class. It's twenty twenty six drop a brand
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: new class for Diablo two, and it's available right now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: They're literally in the thing. They're like, it's available right now.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: How would you have if you didn't have Diabolo two installed?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: How would you get it? So?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: You can buy it from Blizzard and it's now available
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: on Steam.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Oh look at that, that's go.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: It's no longer just available from Blizzard from the Blizzard launcher.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It's also available on Steam. It gave some other quality
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: of life updates, some extra hard hardened character towards the end,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a couple extra bonus featured things at the end. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: it's the first class announced for Diablo two well playable
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: in Diablo two since Lord of Destruction was released in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: two thousand and two.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Wow. Twenty four years. Twenty wow, that's as long as
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it's taken a rock Star to make GTA six, which gt.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It just got pushed back again. Yeah, so not no
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: longer November, so we'll see when GTA six comes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: That.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That was kind of one of the memes going around
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the Reddit forums, right was, oh man, we got a
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: new class in Diablo two before we got GTA six.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so g og Internet Archive, you know you're
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: gonna go waste some time. It's gonna be great now.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to call it wasting time,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: because if it's if you're enjoying yourself, it's not really
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: wasting time. Go get some nostalgia and if you're into
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll pitch this one again too, right, if
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you're into the Nintenda sixty four, the Analog three D,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the mod Retro M sixty four is coming out soon too,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So that's another version of A sixty four made by
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a separate company that's making another hardware in Nintendo sixty four.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: It's interesting to take a step back into the games
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: before the Internet, before they were all tied into being
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: able to use the Internet to find your way, being
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: able to use the Internet to get items, spend money,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: et cetera. Adventuring RPGs that actually make you.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Adventuring games are so much fun.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Until you go back and shut yourself off from the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Internet and play some of these, you don't realize how
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: much of that is missing from current games.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: All right, let me let me ask you guys, all right,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: what was better Diablo World of Warcraft?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, those are those are two completely separate platforms. Right,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I mean you can't you can't take you can't take
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Diablo two as an ARPG action adventure RPG, and World
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: of Warcraft, which is massively online MMO massively multiplay online game.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: There are two completely separate platforms, right, ones a hack
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: and Slash dungeon grinder, dungeon you know, dungeon Crawler.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: The other one is.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: An open world MMO that you play. That is, there's
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: an expected level of community involvement. Right. I liked them both.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I've spent probably equal amounts of time in both worlds.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: You're locked into a basement, all right, you're there. You're
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to be there for a week. You're stuck. You've got
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: two games in the shelves, Diablo, World of Warcraft. Which
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: one are you playing? You can only play one Diablo Diablo. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I mean speaking of World of Warcraft, I mean it's gone.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: They I have not played that in many, many, many years.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I know, Sean, you have played World of Warcraft more recently. Yeah,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I keep up on it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I've got coworkers that keep playing it. I've got co
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: workers that are playing it now.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I've got friends are playing gotten really really bad.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: It's not bad. It's just not it's not what it
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: was when they've introduced.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: The designing your own house, so they're basically turning the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Hoard into the SIMS.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah. With the release of Midnight, which is
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the most recent expansion for World of Warcraft and the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: last of the of the of the War Within saga,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they introduced player housing. Yeah, meaning your character can have
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a house and you can design it with job and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: some house probably just like SIMS, but you can design
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: it with in game elements from around as the world
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: of Azrath right and next to.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: A battlefield with SIMS a b off the war this
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: is it's horrible, but.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Anyway, so the content is still there, you know, it
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: still hasn't really lost its feel. It's still an MMO.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: It's just in a weird place. It's the gaming world
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: is in a weird place, right, So it's like, this
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: is the last expansion. This is the last expansion in
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: this three tiers saga called The War Within, and then
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: they're gonna move forward. So we'll see because they actually
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: have a BlizzCon this year twenty twenty six, so hopefully
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: they're going to announce what is going to be the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: next major step for all franchises. But here's when Diablo Diablo.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: To everybody's surprise, the Diablo franchise has been driving Blizzard.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Which Nope.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: If you would have told me six years ago that
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the Diablo franchise would have been driving Blizzard, I would
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: have said, you're crazy.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: See Andy, here's where you made your mistake. Well mentioned
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: World of Warcraft and Diablo in the same sentence. Now,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Sean is never going to shut up.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I won't. I won't. I'm very passionate about these two platforms.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: If you guys are watching his video right now, eighties
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: over here, like wrapping up, Sean, let's go, let's go.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: All right, So I remember, like we're talking about gamings,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and we were kind of wax and poetic here. There
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was some great games that came out. I mean we
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: all so many times you talk to somebody to go
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Doom or you know, Castle Wolfenstein. You know they were great.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of us, you know that would
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: started gaming. That was like the fun, right, But there
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was two games that I played and I absolutely loved.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: One of them was called Rayman, all right, and if
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you remember Rayman, the other was Monkey Island. I don't know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I don't even remember.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Why shoot Larry? Well Lee, I never got My parents
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: would not let me play leisure Sute Larry. Come on,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I was a kid when Lisiashut Larry came out. You
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: were already an adult. I wasn't allowed to play it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You were an adult. No, I wasn't at that time.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: When did Leisure Suit Larry came up? Come out Xbox?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It was an Xbox game.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So maybe my wife wouldn't let me play it. Maybe
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that I was gonna say, you're dude, you're old enough
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to be my dad. I'm sorry, but you had you
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: had plenty about Unless you're talking to your like seventy
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: five years mom, can I play this? She's like, you're
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: thirty years old? Figure it out? All right? Here's here's
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the good news. Rayman is coming out with this thirtieth
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: anniversary edition. If you liked playing Rayman. The thirtieth Anniversary
• 33:56
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• 34:00
  Speaker 1: on Switch, PS five, PC and Steam.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So you mentioned Doom. I want to just there is
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a great corner of the Internet that it's called will
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It Run Doom?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really, where developers, people technologically minded people try and
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: run Doom. No matter what if it can run one
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: frame a second, one frame every two minutes, whatever, if
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: it can process Doom and you can play Doom in
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: some capacity. People have run it on pregnancy tests, they've
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: run them on Tomagachi's, they've run them on.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Subway ties, we've actually run them. There was a post
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what game it was, but somebody got
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Doomed to run on a virtual computer inside of another game.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: So you'll play the game and then you would walk
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: into your house and there was a desktop computer on
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: in side this game, and you could sit down on
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: this virtual computer and you could play Doom. So you're
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: playing Doom. It's like inception, like you're playing a computer
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: game within a computer game.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but there's a corner of the Internet where
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: just people tried to make Doom run on literally anything.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Well, pregnancy test, that's pretty far out there. Somebody got
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to run on an air fryer, an air fryer, yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: there was somebody that got to run on an air fryer. Yeah,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: because it had like an LCD display and they were
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: able to hack it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You don't realize how much like how much memory is
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: in these things to run these little ESPs or whatever.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: It's way more than what some computers back then had.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: They ran Doom.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. A couple of years ago,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: I tried out the Revolution toaster. Yeah, if you guys
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: remember that one, and I think it's still out there.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But it's a it's a toaster that has an LED
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: screen and you could do the settings all there on
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the screen, the whole bit. But I think it could
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: play videos. You could probably get Tom to run on
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: one of those fridges. Then I can run Doom on
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: my fridge. Right now, I've got the Samsung with the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: whole big old landscape or portrait style screen on it. Yeah,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you got to try it and then send us a screenshot. Oh,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I swear to God,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Eric would never leave the fridge. Why, okay, I want
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to share some sad news for you. Go to break
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he Deki Sato, the father of Stega hardware, has passed
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: away at the age of seventy seven. He worked from
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Sega from seventy one to the early two thousands. He'd
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: help develop the Sega Arcade Games home consoles, the SG
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: one thousand to the Genesis to the Saturn and one
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of my favorites. I had this one, the Dreamcast. Yeah,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the Dreamcast was way ahead of its time. It was
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: way ahead of its time. Yeah it was. I mean
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it was the first one that had online capable play.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I mean you would connect a telephone cord into it
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and use a dial up internet service to connect to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the Internet. Yeah, I had a Dreamcast. I bought the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Dreamcast on launch day and I loved it. I mean,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: crazy Taxi, Sonic, oh, Crazy, a couple other ones. I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: hurt exact the top of my head. Wow, crazy Taxi.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I remember that. That was great, Crazy Taxi. Yeah. But
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: now I've actually had the uh, the honor of going
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: because I used to live in Japan, So I've had
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the honor of going to Sega's headquarters and and seeing,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you know, the museum there, and and reading about this guy,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and just realizing how important he was to video games
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that we now know today. If it wasn't for him,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: we may not have ever had a home console because
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Nintendo wasn't even really in the game at that time.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Sega Sega was big. Sega made all of these old
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: school arcade machines and and like Pachinko, gambling machines and
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: things like that, and this guy came in said, why
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: not we put this in homes? Why can't we put
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: this homes? And so then he designed this alongside the
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: same time that Nintendo was considering to do the same
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: type of thing. Nintendo beat him to the market. Sega
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: was shortly there, right behind them, and it was a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: complete You know, back in the day it was Sega
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: versus Nintendo. It wasn't. It wasn't Sega versus Nintendo versus Sony.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Sony didn't even exist in the video game market at
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the time. As a fun fact, the Sony PlayStation was
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: birthed because Nintendo had a contract with Sony to develop
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: a CD ROM attachment for the Nintendo console, and at
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: the last minute, Nintendo pulled out and said, Nope, We're
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: not going to do it, and Sony was like, well, heck,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: we already have all the technology here. Let's just make
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: our own console. And therefore the PlayStation was born. Wow,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a break. We come back
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: with more of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Sean de Weird, and I'm Justin Lemmy. Find us on
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: x at tech Talk Radio. We'll wear it back and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: now back to tech talk Radio. We have another listener question. Hi, guys,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: where's the girl you had on the show a while ago?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: You mean Matt oh whoa whoa come over there and
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: poke you in the eye. Well, you know, Matt's not
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: here to defend himself, so he can. Yeah whatever, No,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: you talking about Amanda? Amanda.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Every time we reached out to Amanda, she's just so busy,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: right with all the education stuff that she's doing. She
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: got voted into like the top forty under forty educators.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like tech teachers.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And she's just doing so much good for her Like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: she's doing so many good things and it's just a time.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She It was always fun having her on the show,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and she had a good sense of humor and she
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: had a mouth. Though I'd have to do more editing,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: so sorry, Amanda.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys thought I there's a lot.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Roger continues, He says, I love the show.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks back, where Justin talked about getting
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a power wall, I wondered, though I've heard stories about
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: colder tempts and electric vehicles, has that been an issue? Thanks,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and keep up the great work. And that's Roger from Tucson.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: So Roger, yeah, I did end up getting the power
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: wall fully installed. It is operational. I have it signed
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: off by the energy company, so we are using it.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: They actually put the photo in the video cast, so
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I was able to put that in there. So it's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: pretty cool you could see it. Yeah, yeah, definitely, and
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: the power wall works great. Definitely love it. To your
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: question there, Roger, yes, there is issues with colder temperatures. Now,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I live in Denver. I would expect that Denver would
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: usually be cold this time of year, but we have
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: had an unseasonably warm winter. I think we've gotten a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: total of a quarter inch of snow. Otherwise it's been
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: abound sixty five seventy degrees year. I mean this whole
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: this whole season, like every day is like seventy degrees.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I mean people are gone playing golf every day. But
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to answer your question, yes, colder temps electric vehicles. It
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: does cause a range issue on electric vehicles. If your
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: vehicle is too cold, it takes the battery pack longer
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: to warm up, and therefore you do get a decreased
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: mileage on your electric vehicle. Also, you know electric vehicles
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: are extremely heavy. My Tesla model why is over a
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: ton and it's just a small little car. Yeah, but
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: it's the battery pack. So it's a very very heavy car,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: which you would think, oh, great, heavy car is great
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: on snow, great on ice. No, no, no it's not.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Especially the Teslas are not that great on snow and
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: ice because they have the automatic braking. It's a one
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: pedal system. I mean, yes, there is a brake pedal.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: What it's a one pedal driving system. You mean there's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: not like accelerator break. No, there is an accelerator and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: is a break, but you don't need to break. As
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: soon as you let up on the accelerator, the break
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: automatic he kicks in. Oh, and it slows the car down,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: which is great for normal driving. It is pooh your
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: pants when it's iced out, because the one thing you
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: do not want to do on ice is slam on
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the brakes. Right, So when I let off the accelerator
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and it's icy, the car just starts sliding and fish
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: tailing and the butt comes out and I'm like, oh
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: my god, I'm going to die. Yeah, but yeah, when
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: the colder tempts, yeah, of course it takes but now
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that doesn't affect the power wall. I don't believe, because
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that thing always has electricity pulsing through it, and electricity
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: by default just generates heat, so that battery pack is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: always going to mean warm. It's a good question because
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I think for any of us that have run like
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I have the Neft storebell or cameras in other parts
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that are run off battery wise, I don't know if
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: they have this problem they're Sean, but when they're battery
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you'll tend to go through your battery a lot faster
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: when it's colder, yes, or even when it's super hot
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: like we get here. Yeah, So yeah, that can affect
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: a battery life. Yeah, it does. It definitely does. I mean, uh, Sean,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you mean you have a lunch a lot of wisecams.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I know that my Nest doorbell cam. It used to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: be back in the day when I had it, the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Google Nest doorbell cam, when it was super cold out,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: it would say, hey, the Nest cam is offline because
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it's just too darn cold.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: So I would take this whole temperature thing a different
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: little bit of a different direction, right, So upgrading our
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: camper battery to a lithium liium lithium iron phosphate battery,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: so another type of lithium chemistry for battery. They do
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: have cold concerns. This is like below zero sub sub
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: zero temperatures where the lithium ions moves slower, so they
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: can't charge at the higher voltage because it can damage
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: if you're providing too much voltage, it can damage the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: lithium plating, which is irreversible in those types of batteries.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: So the recommendation is you either keep it in a
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: contained inside like a battery container that has air moving
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: around to keep it from getting cold, or you just
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: get it a solar charger, a chargee whether it's solar
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: charger or DC to DC charging that can do low
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: temperature cutoff so it doesn't charge when it's too cold
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: because you just don't want to damage your battery.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and I've had that with the Tesla, the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Tesla model Y car that I have in the past years,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: when it has been cold and I've plugged it in
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: to go charge. One thing, first off, it won't start
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: charging right away. It'll actually warm the battery pack of
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the car, now, not the car itself, not the interior
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: cabin of the vehicle. But it does warm the battery pack.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And I've experienced this firsthand using a supercharger, which charges
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: way faster than a home charger. And I remember being
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: at a supercharger when it was approximately I don't know
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: about fifteen to twenty degrees fahrenheit, and I remember seeing
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: steam come out of the bottom of the car, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I thought my car was on fire. Oh man, But
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: that was just the That was the car itself warming
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: up the battery packs and sending hot air into the
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: battery packs, and then it would vent out the sides
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and it looked like the car was on fire. But
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: that's just steam from that. So the car will warm
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: itself up, the car will warm the battery packs up,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: excuse me, and then it will begin to charge. Same
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: thing goes for if I have it parked in the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: garage overnight and I plug it in go to bed.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I would wake up and it's like, wow, it's
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: only forty five percent charged. Why, well, because low temperature
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: cutof got it. Yeah. Now, is it true? You don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: have For those who don't know, I've never looked at Tesla,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you don't have a actual battery like we have in
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: our cars. You take that battery out, take it a
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: wal Mart. We do. There is a twelve volt battery
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: as well. But isn't the entire bottom of the vehicle
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of battery. Yes, how that works. That's the drive train,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that is your engine. That battery that's underneath your car,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and it does take up the entire base the bottom
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: of the car, that is your engine. You do still
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: have a twelve volt battery.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I would love to fight any radio that could take
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: four hundred volts or whatever that battery puts out. No,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: you have you still have to have a d C
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: to DC conversion. Right, The battery is obviously going to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: get power from the battery at a much lower voltage.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: So you're able to pick up AM radio from Helsinki, right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: is that the right?
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: No, that's the thing. Yeah, So I don't have an
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: AM radio in the Tesla. The Tesla does not have
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: AM radio because it interferes well, I'm sorry, the battery
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: interferes with the ability to pick up AM radio stations.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: So they do not have an AM radio in Tesla's yep.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: All right, So you're we're we're kind of giky, right,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: we kind of like Star Wars kind of sort of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: do you like Star Wars? Did you see there you're
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: gathering a Dell T shirt? You were like the nerd king.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: All right, so there is And I don't know if
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you and and you know your son or you know Sean,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: you and your I want to do this with my grandkid.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: But do Lego? And Lego's become like super popular recently,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and I don't know what, it's always been popular.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It's always been popular.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like the price for Lego. I remember,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you go out, you buy some Legos and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you build something and it's cool. Now the Star Wars
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Most Wanted campaign because this new movie that's going to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: be coming out, Mandalorian and Grogu. They've got a Star
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Wars Razorcrest building set. But it's gonna go for one
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks. That's nothing, dude. There's a millennium
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: falcon that goes for a thousand. No, there's not really, yes,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: look it up.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Look up, okay, look up? Yeahs now, just give me
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a minute.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go go.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Look up, go look up. The Lord of the Rings
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: minaced Tirith one they're about to release. It stands like
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: four and a half feet tall.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look up all the Lord of the Rings, the
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Riven Dell. One's like thirty nine hundred pieces.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: That's just that. The boggles my mind. I saw the story.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I've saw one hundred and fifty bucks.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I've been buying Lego so like, I've been buying Legos
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and not building them for the sole purpose of having
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Max like when I had kids, to let my kids
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: build them. Right, Max now thinks that every day he
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: can come downstairs and open a new box of Legos
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: because I have so many that I've not opened. He's like, oh,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I just go open it. Just we can just build
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a new one today, right Dad.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they mix all the parts. Then you
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: mix all the parts together, and now you can never
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: build that actual Legos set. Wow. Like, so Eric has
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Legos too. My next door neighbor actually
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: has his basement is completely Legos, shelves, bins, His maintenance
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: closet is full of Legos. He has over a million
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: dollars in Legos in his house. So it's amazing.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: If you want, if I'm just gonna recommend a couple
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: of things for somebody who maybe you have a big
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: bit of Legos you don't what to deal with, right right,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: you can download the Lego app okay, and then if
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: you think, oh I had this set or look it
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: up on the app, there's the instruction tells you what
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: pieces you need, how many of each one you need.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Then you can build that one to search through the
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: bin figure it out. Or if you want to find
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: a community driven piece, bricklink right, Brickmaker. There's a handful
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: of really good websites out there. You have a set
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that you've built on your own, you want to upload
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: it for to see if Lego will build it or
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: make it. The community is driving that people will have
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: getting people get Lego sets created by Lego all the time.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: They're not the you know, the IP ones like Disney
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: or Marvel and that stuff like that. But there's a
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: lot of community driven Legos out there and it's all
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: just based off people that love Lego.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: At this point, I'm gonna buy some Lego pieces and say, here, August,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: this is a wall. I've just built a wall out
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: of Lego. This is what you have. And every time there's.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: A spaceship out of like six pieces and runs around
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the house flying it around like a space ship. It's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: it's amazing every time we look like a spaceship.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: But it is every time that Eric and I sit
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: down to build legos, I always end up building just
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the most basic four wall house. That's what I would do.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like all random bricks, and like one wall
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: is like seven blocks longer than the other wall. But
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't care whatever. All right, we gonna
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: take another quick break. We come back with more of
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: tech Talk Radio. We will let you know about the
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: big Apple announcement coming up. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm seand Weird,
• 50:37
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  Speaker 1: back and now fact to tech Talk Radio. So Apple
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  Speaker 1: made an announcement this week. They've got something coming up,
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  Speaker 1: called it a Special Apple Experience, and you're expected to
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  Speaker 1: announce some new products. I don't you know, anytime any
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  Speaker 1: of these companies, whether it be any of the computer
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  Speaker 1: manu factors or anything, you kind of wonder, Okay, what
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  Speaker 1: is it. Apple's announcements are usually pretty big. They're expected
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  Speaker 1: to announce the iPhone seventeen e Wait, hold on, so
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  Speaker 1: now they're just going to like putting letters behind the
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  Speaker 1: number because they can't come up with anything better than that.
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  Speaker 1: You can't call it the eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they stopped calling them the scs because people started
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  Speaker 2: referred to as the super cheaps.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know how they're they're doing this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at the same time, Samsung is announced THEIRS
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  Speaker 1: that is coming out MacBook Pro with M five. The
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  Speaker 1: M five chips are supposed to be pretty amazing. I'll
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  Speaker 1: give them that.
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  Speaker 2: The M five tips are gonna be great. It's just
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  Speaker 2: weird to think that we're already phasing out M one
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  Speaker 2: and M two chips already. It feels like they just
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  Speaker 2: been now and now it's like, oh, you have an
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  Speaker 2: M one that's garbage. It might not even be supported
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  Speaker 2: by the newest.
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  Speaker 1: Version of Adobe.
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  Speaker 2: Like what were that far already? Where the the Apple
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  Speaker 2: silicon chips are already getting out paced by themselves. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to keep it like, hey, this is fresh. Especially,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people have been a little angry at Microsoft,
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  Speaker 1: angry at Windows Microslop. There has been and it just
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  Speaker 1: it never seems to They've got one bug that comes
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  Speaker 1: out and then another one comes comes back. So they've
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  Speaker 1: they've got to keep getting the products out there so
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  Speaker 1: people will go, oh, I'll tell I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, I've still to tell you guys this. There is
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  Speaker 2: a big Linux momentum coming. Like, yes, Linux shares are
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  Speaker 2: up four or five percent from where they were three
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  Speaker 2: years ago. Yeah, and you're seeing you know, Goog, we
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  Speaker 2: just talked about this a couple of us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of segments ago. They are building a Linux
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  Speaker 2: first platform for their for for Gog, meaning it'll be
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  Speaker 2: a Linux driven platform so that you can get these
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  Speaker 2: games on Linux.
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  Speaker 1: I read ed Bott had an article uh a zd
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  Speaker 1: net and in the article he said, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: he was able to migrate. They were able to get
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  Speaker 1: over to Linux just to give it a try. The
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  Speaker 1: one thing he was missing from that is Microsoft Hello,
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  Speaker 1: which is a different way to log in that apparently
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  Speaker 1: is not available on Linux yet or at least the
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  Speaker 1: builds that he was doing. And he said he kind
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  Speaker 1: of liked that. So I think anybody who moves from
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  Speaker 1: Windows to Linux is gonna miss something. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, right, I mean, you have to think about
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  Speaker 2: it from the ecosystem that you grew up in right,
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  Speaker 2: I like the iPhone experience. Okay, I'm sure I could
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  Speaker 2: get used to and enjoy and find a love the
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  Speaker 2: Android experience. But I know and I'm comfortable with the
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  Speaker 2: iOS experience. So everybody's gonna hate something or feel like
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  Speaker 2: they have to give up something when moving to a
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  Speaker 2: new platform. Nobody likes change. That's just the root of
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  Speaker 2: it is that you're moving to a new platform. You
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  Speaker 2: don't like change. You don't want to adapt because adapting something,
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  Speaker 2: especially in a business sense, adapting something to a new platform,
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  Speaker 2: costs money and time. Just not a lot of companies
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  Speaker 2: want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So when I told Justin, okay, so I bought this iPhone,
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  Speaker 1: not iPhone, that this this Google Pixel nine, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pro and I'm not sure if I like it. And
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  Speaker 1: Justin you were the one who tell me, hang in there,
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  Speaker 1: just keep trying this and try that. And I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I still have an iPhone, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: use it as a business line, which never rings, thank
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  Speaker 1: you people. But the Android has been actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: I've been liking it. Yeah. And the same thing was
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  Speaker 1: my wife. My wife had an iPhone and I was like, nope,
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  Speaker 1: we're not getting another iPhone. You're getting an Android. She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want an Android. I don't want to switch
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Sean said. She switched. Took her a
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  Speaker 1: couple of months and now she's like, I love Android.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say that you weren't
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  Speaker 1: sure you wanted to keep the wife. That's well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: at the time, start to think of my choices, I thought,
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  Speaker 1: just hang in there, they're okay. Wife's great. All right,
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  Speaker 1: well listen. That wraps up this week's show. We love
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