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Happy Hour #109: Evolution (SATC S2, Ep. 11) · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm walking to Steph.
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  Speaker 1: I never told your protection of iHeartRadio and we're back
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  Speaker 1: with our Happy Hour edition of Sex in the City,
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  Speaker 1: Viewing of Times, Party Times. I keep messing these intros up,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go with it because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's the spontaneity of it all. And today we're so
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  Speaker 1: excited because we're gonna have collaborator friend all the things
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  Speaker 1: of the show. Joey Yay. Hello. All right now I
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: need to ask, although I know the answer, but you
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  Speaker 1: need to tell our listeners how familiar are you with
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  Speaker 1: Sex in the City. So I'm not super familiar. It
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  Speaker 1: was it was a little, a little before my time,
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  Speaker 1: so just a little. But I know my mom watched it.
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  Speaker 1: I think my sister only my little sisters are there too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I also do. I was. I live
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  Speaker 1: in New York and I went to college in New
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  Speaker 1: York and like all live my momice for ends when
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  Speaker 1: I was moving out to New York. We're like, you
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  Speaker 1: need to watch this, and I was like yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: then I didn't. I will say I have had one
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  Speaker 1: sided beat with Sarah Jessica Parker since I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid because my initials are also s JAP Joey's for
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  Speaker 1: my middle name, and all of the SJAP social media
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  Speaker 1: handles were taking my Sarah Jessica Parker and I was
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  Speaker 1: really mad about that when I was like first getting
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. Um, but yeah, I'm excited excited to watch
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  Speaker 1: I've seen like clips here and there, you know, I like,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to like avoid it, but I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: watch my first full episode of Sex and the City.
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  Speaker 1: When you're in for a treat, and this one is interesting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so go ahead and put a little warning at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: as per usual with all of these episodes, and as
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  Speaker 1: you heard from Joey, yes, their mom watched it, So
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  Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and say that. And with that,
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  Speaker 1: some of the content and topics, of course, is outdated,
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  Speaker 1: and so we're gonna come back and talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we never scart away from the issues
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  Speaker 1: with the show, because we would like to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the good, the bad, and ugly and the wonderful. So
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  Speaker 1: we will definitely address any of those things beforehand. And
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  Speaker 1: as per usual, we have to have a review from
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  Speaker 1: the wonderful Annie Reese. Please give us a quick review
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  Speaker 1: of what has been happening in the world of Sex
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  Speaker 1: in the City. Well, this is so fun because I
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  Speaker 1: too have never seen sex in the City, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: I've been here for all the episodes prior to this,
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  Speaker 1: which there are ninety four episodes Joey just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: and three movies and then another many not mini series anymore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of content. So I've been thinking about this.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like normally I just give a very haphazard
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  Speaker 1: review of the last episode, but I will tell you
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  Speaker 1: it's four friends and they're having high jinks. In the
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  Speaker 1: relationship world in New York, there is usually a club
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  Speaker 1: scene or restaurants in her boat. But you've got Charlotte
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  Speaker 1: who's trying to find the one and just never does
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  Speaker 1: and works in the art world, sort of if you're
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  Speaker 1: like more conservative. I wouldn't say she's like conservative, but
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  Speaker 1: like of them, she wants to get married. She has
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  Speaker 1: dated some interesting characters though, like an actor who really
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  Speaker 1: had no brains recently. And then you've got Samantha, who
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  Speaker 1: is the one that's like, oh, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: have sex, I feel comfortable in my body, like all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. And then you've got Miranda who's sort of
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  Speaker 1: your like single woman in an apartment, has a good
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  Speaker 1: job as a lawyer, but she has met her dude
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  Speaker 1: that people who have seen the show know about Steve,
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  Speaker 1: and they're trying to negotiate like a she banks more
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  Speaker 1: money than him, and that was the whole thing. And
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  Speaker 1: they have different schedules because he's a bartend. There's that
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  Speaker 1: was the whole thing. And then you've got Kerry, who
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  Speaker 1: is your main character, who has met Big, who is
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  Speaker 1: her on and again off again dude. And they've had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conversations around like religion and marriage and
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  Speaker 1: what they want and is he actually a douchebag all
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  Speaker 1: those kinds of things. At the heart of it is
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  Speaker 1: their friendship, the friendship of these four characters. And that's
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  Speaker 1: about where we are is We've got Miranda with Steve
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out money things. They just broke up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they just broke up, but over kind of
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  Speaker 1: money is okay, Charlotte not finding the one, Samantha doing
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  Speaker 1: her thing, and then Carrie was Big and they continue
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  Speaker 1: to have these big relationship conversations. Very nice, what a
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  Speaker 1: good succinct summary. So now you know Joey where we're
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  Speaker 1: at a little bit um because this is a happy hour.
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  Speaker 1: We maybe may or may not be drinking on some cocktails.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody drinking anything special? What you got? Annie? Red wine?
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  Speaker 1: Every time? Every time? I am keeping it low key
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  Speaker 1: with my bubbly water, very bubbled it. Maybe the head
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  Speaker 1: water that we recently were given. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: about you. I was originally flat at having red wine.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm still on my coffee from this morning, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to it. Finishing my coffee right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm drinking coffee. Yes, little peak behind the curtains. It's
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  Speaker 1: not exactly happy our time for us, but you know
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  Speaker 1: we're pretending right any times happy hour if you want
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  Speaker 1: it to be h And just as a reminder, if
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: you know, just a reminder if you are drinking as
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  Speaker 1: you're listening to this episode or whatever you're doing, be responsible. Technically,
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  Speaker 1: those Streaks that we've talked about are not a current
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  Speaker 1: sponsor for this episode, though they may be sponsors throughout
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  Speaker 1: who knows. Hey, So the title of this episode and
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  Speaker 1: this is my favorite part, we're gonna give it to uh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you get I'll tell you the episode and
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  Speaker 1: then Joey, you can either take it or give it
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  Speaker 1: to Annie first for the prediction, I'll let you decide.
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  Speaker 1: But the title of this episode of season two, episode
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  Speaker 1: eleven is evolution. So anybody want to take a guess? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm right. Have just given our conversation earlier,
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  Speaker 1: because I know there is I think about one of them,
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  Speaker 1: like quote, becoming a lesbian at one point or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is it, but I again
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  Speaker 1: using that in quotational rights. I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: yeah a terminology, but maybe it's that episode. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not totally sure. I feel like there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: some like queerness though, Okay, this is my guess, right,
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Annie always add in they go to
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  Speaker 1: a club, go to the club, to right, probably probably
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  Speaker 1: after the club post club. Okay, I feel like it's Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there's gotta be something about sort of
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  Speaker 1: oh no, this is what happens to me, Joey, I
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  Speaker 1: always get my head back. Okay. I think it's gotta
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  Speaker 1: be you know, evolving outside of relationships to the next
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  Speaker 1: relationship and or discussion and about how we have evolved
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  Speaker 1: in the terms of relationships and what we think is
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  Speaker 1: a good relationship, bad relationship, or something else. Mm I
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  Speaker 1: bet there'll be something with yeah, Rand and Steve and
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  Speaker 1: just to talk about, like what do we even want?
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  Speaker 1: What do we even want in this world? I like
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  Speaker 1: the desperation towards the end in your prediction here, Annie like,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a great question. What do we want? We want? Wow? Y'all? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you guys hit it all over the place. I will say,
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  Speaker 1: they are definitely elements to what you're saying. Joey any Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're passing. I think, Okay, we'll get into that at
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  Speaker 1: the end. But yeah, let's go ahead. Let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and start this episod. Actually I'm going off it. Are
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  Speaker 1: you trying to have a baby? No? No? I yes,
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  Speaker 1: I sort of jumped the gun going on in the
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  Speaker 1: first place because Steve, the guy that I went on
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  Speaker 1: it for the first real relationship I've had in years,
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  Speaker 1: is over. And I don't need a daily reminder that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not having sex. So that's the story with the pill.
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  Speaker 1: And I know the concept of the pill is a
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  Speaker 1: little different, like I got on a ulate my system essentially, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: oh god, I'm not having sex? Do you just want
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  Speaker 1: to yes or no, that's it. I don't even know why.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: With big I think it's best to walk softly and
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: carry a big purse. Yes, she shouldn't leave anything there.
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  Speaker 1: It's important to remain a creature of mystery. So talking
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  Speaker 1: about leaving things behind at your partner's house to stake territory, which,
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: by the way, is a new TikTok trend, maybe not new,
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  Speaker 1: a TikTok trend in which women who have stayed and
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  Speaker 1: maybe even an over one night stand will leave things
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  Speaker 1: just in case they are having a relationship in light
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  Speaker 1: about it and the other person can find it to
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  Speaker 1: know that they were there. So what you're telling, how interesting?
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  Speaker 1: But this is different obviously prove I've heard about it
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  Speaker 1: more in terms of that's how you get the invite back.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you lea so many different things this, this
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  Speaker 1: route has evolved in itself. It sounds like she's doing
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  Speaker 1: it to stak territory. Then it's become something else altogether.
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  Speaker 1: Then I want a T shirt that says I dated
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  Speaker 1: a bartender and all I got was this lousy ovary.
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  Speaker 1: It is funny hearing them talk about it. Or she's
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  Speaker 1: like the sperm has to jump over it. This sounds
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  Speaker 1: like me as a kid trying to explore. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's personal stuff, but I would be like great,
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  Speaker 1: like less of a chance I can get partner Like
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  Speaker 1: that sounds amazing. We're held different generation. Shut that down.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately shut it down. He must be a gay straight
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  Speaker 1: man because he has Charlotte out for a second day,
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  Speaker 1: unless he's a straight gay man in denial. But so,
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte is now seeing a gay straight man who has
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: great taste in fashion and also well quote unquote her
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  Speaker 1: or kill sir, nicer version. Wait. So is the implication though,
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  Speaker 1: that he's closeted and he's trying to be straight or
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's the opposite, in which he just feels more
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  Speaker 1: able to be effeminate but is straight. That's the question. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Imagining Samantha with a broken heart was almost more confusing
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  Speaker 1: to Charlotte than a French kiss from a gay man
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  Speaker 1: ancient history. They just really in this And also as
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  Speaker 1: a reminder, sex in the City really did not have spectrums.
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  Speaker 1: They were hard line you're gay straight, and there was
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  Speaker 1: not even like bisexuality. They didn't literally there's a line
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  Speaker 1: later in episode saying that she didn't believe in that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's kind of this whole conversation of like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I've definitely seen that clip for then I
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  Speaker 1: thought about it. I don't know, it's just just it's
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  Speaker 1: so funny, like the just the conversation that has changed
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  Speaker 1: so much because I'm bisexual and I'm like I I'm
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  Speaker 1: like most I don't know. I feel like most of
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  Speaker 1: my friends are somewhere on the spectrum, ay right, I
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it's just the people I'm around, but
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense. Of course, like I as the older,
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely have grown with that because it to me,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was anything but the binary. But
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  Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, yeah, that doesn't make sense. It
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  Speaker 1: really doesn't make sense in me. Yeah, I will say
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  Speaker 1: I think because I remember being in like high school,
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  Speaker 1: and I was still like I don't know, Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I didn't Bisexuality wasn't like a thing people
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  Speaker 1: talked about until like I was in my late teens,
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  Speaker 1: which is still, you know, pretty young. I love that. Still, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely growth. Do you want me to leave socks here? Well?
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  Speaker 1: Never mind what I want? What do you want? I
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. Let's save an hour. Why don't you just
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  Speaker 1: tell me what I want? No? Really in your mind? Terrible,
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  Speaker 1: terrible in relationship. It is funny how much if this
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  Speaker 1: is about how we don't really communicate well in relationships though,
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  Speaker 1: And there's all these games we play, like power games,
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  Speaker 1: and what is that. I have my place, you have yours.
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  Speaker 1: We're together when we want to be, and we're apart
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  Speaker 1: one we want to be like Woody and Mia really bad,
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  Speaker 1: really bad, take really bad. That was like a gut
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  Speaker 1: right Wait what did he say? She said, like Woody
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  Speaker 1: and Mia before Sunni, which is the adopted Do you
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  Speaker 1: know the story of what you No? I don't think so?
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Yeahs too. I was like, yeah before the adopted daughter. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I will say I did. I also would have
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: subscribed to the whole Separate but Together conversation. I loved
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: that aspect in my relationship previously. Don't get me wrong,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I love living with them now, but like there was
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: the safety in knowing it. I had my own space
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  Speaker 1: that I had to take care of, and they had
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: their home space that they had to take care of.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: But because we were our neighbors, like I lived upstairs
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: he lived downstairs. It was a beautiful setup. So I
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  Speaker 1: loved that. There's something true. Totally support that. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that. I mean, if I left the hair
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  Speaker 1: dryer at somebody's place, I'd have to get another hair dryer.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to their apartment every time they use
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the hair dryer. You as a minimalist for certain things, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, are you n I don't know, short hair,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have as much makeup for all that I
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: think carried us. But right, just like umpires all the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: things obviously, and she can afford it for some reason. Yeah,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden it hit me that if the
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  Speaker 1: other ovary shuts down, I'm out of business. So I've
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: started taking hormones and now I'm actually considering freezing my eggs.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Freezing your eggs, yeah, you know, like a fertility savings account.
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  Speaker 1: I think it would take the pressure off I will say,
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  Speaker 1: as getting older, and I'm like, I still don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I had thought about should I freeze eggs? But
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: then I'm like, I don't think so that's a good idea.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: What is all this reproductive technology doing for us? I mean,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: do we want desperate women having babies? At fifty. Maybe
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: some people aren't supposed appropriate. Maybe this is the world's
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: way of weeding out the week, sweating out on a
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  Speaker 1: date exactly designer sperm and he simulated wounds. Here's a
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: good idea. Why don't we just eliminate men all together? Yeah? Man,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: who's doing crop rotation on his forehead? A little quickly,
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  Speaker 1: I've been in this with the dude before, too. We
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  Speaker 1: get of Yes, I'm like, sure, I didn't you get
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: a crop rotation is talking about natural selection and you're like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: wait what just people? Yeah. Also, it should be totally
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: cool to just have a conversation about your horribones, not
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: have someone freak out good morning, good morning, sleepy something smment.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I really need to know if war women who have
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: had like one night stands or sleep women actually end
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: up wearing the dude's shirt the next day, because I'm like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: when do you judge a picture? What point? Yeah? What point?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Who does has done this? Unless it's on purpose? Because
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you like, right, like when you start stealing your partners
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: stuff or are you borrowing it? Yeah? Sure borrowing tell
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: my partner that I don't think that his name is
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: big so much so the origination of that is that
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the first episode, second episode, first episode of the show,
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  Speaker 1: Sam knew him as the next big real estate person
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and like the next big rich dude. So they talk
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: most of the times in references to like nicknames. So
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  Speaker 1: that stuck for him unfortunately, because yeah, it's not great,
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  Speaker 1: but he may be the only dude that it has
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  Speaker 1: a nickname, because that's how when I was dating, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: would never give him a name. They would have some
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: type of nickname until like we were more official. Okay,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: yeah that makes sense. Yeah, So like it could be
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just because so much of dating and I was like
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: online dating, I was just like, oh, yeah, that hinge person. Yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like the tender person. Yeah, I'll talk to my friends
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: about exactly. I think the tender person was one. Um.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think I called one. The musician, I called one
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like like so many different what was he. I still
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was telling me the truth, because
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: he told me he was something a capital investment dude,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and I was like, what does that mean. I still
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: think he might have been lying to be fair, because
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: he was like, I have a BMW, but it's in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the shop, and I was like, yeah, there's so many
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: things that I'm like this doesn't this doesn't head up.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, there you go. So Annie, you did talk
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  Speaker 1: about evolving in their life. So I'll give you a thing.
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  Speaker 1: They do mention Steve kind of, but not a lot.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't go to a club. I'm sorry. They did
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: not go to a club. Oh yeah, actually they did.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They did go to a club. Yeah, you're right. I forgot.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the dominic isn't that club? You're right, So
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: there is a club scene, so I'll give you that.
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  Speaker 1: There's definitely queer reference in like not being very evolved
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  Speaker 1: in it, I guess at this point. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: I will give both of y'all points. I'll give you
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  Speaker 1: a tie. Y'all did good. Y'all did good? Yeah you did.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I think the mystery was the whole like, yeah, the
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: metrosexual dude coming into play, which is hilarious because that's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: so gone. That term is gone now, right, Like that's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the smest when I'm very good friend who is a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: straight man who regularly refers to himself as metrosexual, and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I make fun of him about it all the time,
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  Speaker 1: and he's the only person I know that uses that,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Like I've heard in the past, like ten years the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: word metrosexual. Yeah, yeah, it's not. Do they do it
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  Speaker 1: seriously or jokingly? He says it seriously every time. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I stop, but um yeah, he's also very very straight.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. I feel like, yeah, but I do think
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  Speaker 1: like effeminate quote unquote, like straight man is becoming more
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  Speaker 1: like normalized, you know, and like definitely through the like
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like the whole TikTok like thing and
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: all of that. Um yeah again, I'm also like, I'm
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a queer person who is mostly friends with queer people,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it's a different conversation. I don't know.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I definitely like like I can't imagine any of my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: like your girlfriends being like, yeah, I'm not gonna date
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: this guy because he like acted to a feminine or two.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a plus, Like that's why, Oh,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: he's like more in touch with this emotion, right, Like
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: he gets like more you know, traditionally feminine things like
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: fashion or all of that. Like I feel like that's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a plus. Yeah, but I don't know. I love a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: man who cooks. I love a man who can have
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: a conversation about feminism. That's wonderful. Yeah, legitimately and understanding it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That's why I think K dramas are a big hit
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: right now because they are all about the sensitive man
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: slash some other things. But they do definitely are like
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: one of the lines and some of them was like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: it's okay to cry. They keep saying that to each
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: other though. I think it's interesting, but there you go.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about your first experience in watching
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the full episode of Sex and the City, Joey, that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was fun? I definitely was not. I I feel like
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm so used to like the really long after and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: drawn out to shows out It's like, this is fun,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: just kind of quick. But yeah, I definitely it was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: an interesting experience. Was was expecting a lot of that
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: like nineties, like forty percent of the way there with
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the sexual liberation. But yeah, it was good. It's fun.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I know there's I should have asked my My little
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: sister likes the show too, and I know there's like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: one because everybody's always like I'm a like Miranda or Samantha.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: There's one that she says reminds her of me. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: cannot remember when it was, though, I definitely want to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: know now, so know that. I'm like, I feel like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I haven't Miranda maybe right, it's Miranda's the lawyer. Yes,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so she's a very straightforward sure, like no holes barred
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: type of person who, let you know, very very uh
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: they are for her friends and very loyal for sure.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So that sounds like very blunt. Yeah, but I'm definitely
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: gonna ask after those. Yeah, you should report No, definitely.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'll let you guys know. We've had to
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: do it. We should wait. Oh, we should have made
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: you do a quiz that we've done that before. We
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: should have made you do a quiz beforehand. We'll send
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you one after the fact. We'll get we'll do a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: short back. It's not going to be ever on and yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: in my realization, this episode was released before you were born.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So when was it? Nineteen ninety nine? Okay, I was
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: born at ninety nine. Okay, you were born. Wait, what
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: is your birthday? We don't know your birthday. You don't
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: have to announced it over a birth episode. Well, I'm
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: then cancer. It's in July. Okay, So, okay, you were
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: born right before the release of this episode. Yeah, because
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: this was done in August of nineteen ninety Okay, so
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the yearn and I was going to college, it's okay, gosh,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I definitely it is funny to watch stuff that's said
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, it was like right before everything
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: that's super super gentrified. I was like, oh my god,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine like being like I don't I don't
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: think I know anybody who lives in Chelsea that's very
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: very expensive. Now, well, it's so funny. Is like I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: think people want you to watch it to see as
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: if like it's going to be a setup for your life.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: You're like, there's no way, to hell anyone lives this
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: life unless you are already rich, like you are born
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: rich and probably a part of a family that has
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: lived and has owned property in New York for the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: past hundred years. You're not gonna ask that life. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, they have set all their apartments. They
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: have like an actual like like I'm in my bedroom
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: right now, and everything is very like you can see
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: my bedroom frame right now, because it's it's very compact.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I guess Carrie's department is probably the most because you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: see the bedroom in the like the living room is connected,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's not separate. And then they have a bathroom in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: a kitchen, but still it was like, still, that's that's expensive,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: because I think she lives in a brownstone or something.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: You're like, nah, that's not a definitely thing for the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: people who were just starting out. But yeah. There was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: so much in this episode about evolution and growing, which
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: is quite funny because as we look back on it,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it is very outdated and what they think is being
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: evolved between the trope we let's let's name all the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: tropes I was in there. Obviously the effeminate man being
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: gay versus also the women having to hurry up and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: save their eggs or they're gonna be useless. What else?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: What else? What are the other tropes we saw on
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: those There's so many good ones. Believing the shirt yeah,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the shirt, yeah, the territorial markets the thing, I feel
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: like that's always and yeah, but also the inability to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: communicate so therefore you do things passive aggressively. Yeah. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: feel like the there was kind of a vibe with
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Miranda the because she's the like business oriented one. She's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: having this trouble with the lads of your wary um
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: where she's being punished for like putting her job first.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I've punished, but like the conversation being, oh, you put
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: your job first, here's the cost, which you know, there's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: a there's a legitimate conversation you can have about that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But it felt much more like, I guess I'll date this.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: It implied douchebag that's been harassing her for would have
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a baby, to possibly have a baby, which should possibly
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: have a baby. It's a whole thing throughout I will
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: say eventually, I'm just saying, Okay, let maybe you think
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: of I don't know if you guys watched like New
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Girl at all, they had like a similar arc in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that with one of the characters. It was very odd,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and then she turned out to be able to have
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: tons of babies. Yeah, yeah, definitely not at that point
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: in my life yet. But I'm just very It's it's interesting.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I His reaction though, is definitely like I feel like
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that's I don't. I also maybe this is me being
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: not even not interacting with straight mud as much, but
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm not that's not as shocking
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: any bore to be like, oh, like some people freeze
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: their eggs or like some people, you know, there's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: lot of modern medicine is great, Right, there's lots of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: alternatives for you, because I get the whole like wanting
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to be a relationship to have a kid. But at
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, whenever this sort of trope
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: comes up, it was like the same with me, girl,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, why I don't even look into like
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just getting a sperm downer, Like like that's never part
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of the conversation. It's like, if you want kids, it's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: always coming and has to come with the man or
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: show like I don't know. Yeah, right, it was interesting.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: It was it would It's definitely interesting. And at Lisa
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: couple them because the conversation starts out with a lesbian
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: couple going to treatment because they wanted to they want
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a baby, and then all that stuff and like you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you only have a certain amount of time, let me
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: tell you this, but like it had to be a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: couple committed, a couple before they even had that conversation.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, CC who is the character goes into
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: like a dating spree, matchups free to find her perfect mate.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's interesting. But I know, we
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: haven't talked much about this. This didn't really get brought
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: up here, but the fact that with this anti reproductive
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: healthcare movement, it does push back on seagacy as well
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: as IVF treatments and such as that a little bit
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a lot more than you would think, and it could
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: affect the laws. There's a lot of laws possibly undermining
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: any of those things in the future. But again, this
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is where we go a little dark. I go there,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: but there's yeah, there's a whole lot of stuff that's
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: not that we have to think on. But yeah, in
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: this episode, it meant turning into really bad choice of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: men in order to be able to be a full woman.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I guess it's the idea. Yeah, And we've talked about
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this before, Joey, but a lot of times at the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: end of these it's it's kind of what would seem
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: like a frivolous thing in a lot of ways, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: it was very important when it came out, and like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: obviously we've come a long way, but well we'll talk
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: about the damn meaning of life at the end of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: these sometimes, like we're still having these conversations, just kind
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: of differently more evolved. You might say, oh, yeah, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm totally I'm totally been critical of this,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: but also I like I totally respect how this show
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I like had such a big impact on like it
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: was one of the first shows I like really talked
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: about sex and sectuality for like women, right women, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the fact that they had choices. Yeah, that's that would
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: begin a whole new conversation of like living. Of course,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's very privileged people who are having these choices, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that's a different conversation in itself. But yeah, it's like
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: having a moment of free in knowing that just because
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: you do like sex doesn't make you a bad person,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and just because it doesn't mean marriage, which is not
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. This is the quite a beginning, especially
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in the nineties, after all the sitcoms were differently like
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the Wholesome Family sitcoms, and then you had this on HBO.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, I definitely did a lot of markers.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Is it still problematic, yes, yes, yes, and we have
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to talk about that. But it did open some doors
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: for sure in this topic and conversation. Yeah, yeah, you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: should come back, Joey. I'm so fun. I have seen
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: it and it's just fun to be like, look at
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: this nineties Like I usually I'm the one that's like,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: look at that Godzilla nineteen ninety eight poster. Here's a
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: hard two and it's only gonna keep growing. And I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: so excited that you are able to come on. Joey.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: We definitely need you to back be back on. We
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: need Christina back on. We haven't had Maya yet. You
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gotta have them. Maybe we should do as a whoping panel.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much of them a mess fun,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: but it would be a whole thing. Christina's like, I'll
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: never edit this Elber. That's just for our own benefit.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: We never published it. It's just take it out having fun.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Kind of my excuse. But yes, thank you for coming on.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed it as Yeah I did. I did. Yeah,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I would totally totally come out of God for they
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: got a winner. Yes, well I'm gonna say I got
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a gold star for this one. You too, Joey, thank you, Yes,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: as always, thanks for joining us, Joey. Where can listens
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: fine too? Yeah, you can find me on Instagram or
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• 32:57
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• 33:01
  Speaker 1: told you on TikTok. Yeah, I'm also there. Yes, Joey
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: has been very kind and help us start that then
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: run it, and we have not forgotten about bringing a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: listener on. We promised we're keeping your names. They're in there.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: This was actually Joey was helping us test our technology,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: so thanks for that as well. But yes, yes, don't worry.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: That is coming in the meantime. If you would like
• 33:26
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• 33:28
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• 33:30
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• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a book coming out. Look that up. Thanks as always
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: too our superproducer Christina, our executive producer Maya, and to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Joey for all of your help. Yes, thank y'all, and
• 33:52
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• 33:54
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