Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Why the Makerfield by-election could bring down Starmer
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The people living in this quiet corner of England could
- 0:02Speaker 1: play a big role in who becomes the UK's next
- 0:04Speaker 1: Prime ministeros absolute So how did we end up here
- 0:07Speaker 1: and could the plan actually end up backfiring? This is
- 0:10Speaker 1: Makerfield in northwest England is holding a by election and
- 0:13Speaker 1: the stakes couldn't be higher. It's a former mining area
- 0:16Speaker 1: and since the constituency was created in the eighties it's
- 0:19Speaker 1: only ever had a Labour MP in this by election.
- 0:21Speaker 1: There are fourteen candidates overall, and parties including Labor Reform, Conservatives, Libdem's,
- 0:26Speaker 1: Greens and Restore Britain are all canvasing, but the two
- 0:29Speaker 1: main front runners are Labour's Andy Burnham and Reforms Rob Kenyan,
- 0:32Speaker 1: and if Burnham wins, it could potentially open up his
- 0:35Speaker 1: roots to Downing Street. Keep saying bi election, but if
- 0:37Speaker 1: you're not one hundred percent sure how they work, just
- 0:39Speaker 1: sit with me for a sec. So a by election
- 0:41Speaker 1: is a one off vote that happens if an MPC
- 0:43Speaker 1: becomes available in between general elections. It could because the
- 0:46Speaker 1: MPs stepped down, been recalled or even died for example.
- 0:49Speaker 1: They happened fairly often, but we've never seen one like
- 0:51Speaker 1: this before. So the vote here on June the eighteenth
- 0:54Speaker 1: is to replace Labor MP Josh Simons, who stood down
- 0:57Speaker 1: from his seat last month as part of a bigger
- 0:59Speaker 1: plan which could go wrong. But we'll get to dynam inte.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I think people are excited mainly about national issues such
- 1:06Speaker 1: as immigration. I think that's what's getting everybody fired off.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Anyone who's running for it. They've all got the wrong
- 1:13Speaker 2: gender from what I think, so you know how to
- 1:15Speaker 2: advance the career. So I don't really trust it any
- 1:18Speaker 2: even big, big divide between people. This is a lot
- 1:20Speaker 2: of people going around, a lot of signage going around.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Kirs Darmer is under serious pressure from his own Labor
- 1:26Speaker 1: MPs after big election losses in Wales, Scotland and England
- 1:30Speaker 1: in May this year, and there's questions over his appointment
- 1:32Speaker 1: of Lord Mandleson and how much he knew about his
- 1:34Speaker 1: relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Some in his party just think
- 1:37Speaker 1: it'll be better for Labour's chances in the next general
- 1:39Speaker 1: election if somebody else was in charge. One of the
- 1:41Speaker 1: favorites for that role is Andy Burnham, but he isn't
- 1:43Speaker 1: an MP because he currently serves as the mayor of
- 1:45Speaker 1: Greater Manchester and that's what brings us here. For Burnham
- 1:48Speaker 1: to be in with a chance of being Prime Minister,
- 1:50Speaker 1: he'd have to have a seat in Parliament, but there
- 1:52Speaker 1: were none going until now. Enter stage left Labor and
- 1:55Speaker 1: p Josh Simons, who basically took one for the team,
- 1:58Speaker 1: gave up his seat here in Makefield, Andy Burnam could run.
- 2:01Speaker 1: So what do we need to know about the two
- 2:02Speaker 1: front runners? Andy Burnham is one of the most recognizable
- 2:05Speaker 1: figures in the Labor Party, a former cabinet minister under
- 2:07Speaker 1: both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair, and for the last
- 2:10Speaker 1: eight years he's been there of Greater Manchester. He's made
- 2:12Speaker 1: no secret of his ambitions to be Prime minister too.
- 2:15Speaker 1: His main competition here is Rob Kenyan, who has a
- 2:17Speaker 1: very different background, a self employed plumber born in Makerfield,
- 2:20Speaker 1: who doesn't have a long history in politics. Right, let's
- 2:23Speaker 1: see if we can get anyone here to talk to
- 2:24Speaker 1: us about what it's been like. Hello, can we ask
- 2:27Speaker 1: you a couple of good questions?
- 2:28Speaker 2: I can ask you some very quick.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Questions about the area, no worries. Could I ask you
- 2:34Speaker 1: some quick questions about the area. Are you aware of
- 2:36Speaker 1: the upcoming election? Yeah? Aren't we all?
- 2:39Speaker 2: Does it affects us?
- 2:40Speaker 1: All? Of course, it affects us. The all political landscapes
- 2:43Speaker 1: got to change. It's not about right or left, or
- 2:48Speaker 1: it's about what's right and wrong. What has it been
- 2:50Speaker 1: like recently since this by election was announced? Chaos?
- 2:54Speaker 2: Chaos absolutely may have the national focus has been on
- 2:58Speaker 2: us for a while now to go announced, what.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Honest set, Not a lot of gimmicks.
- 3:04Speaker 2: I just want tell us what you can and can't do,
- 3:06Speaker 2: but don't tell promises things that you're not going to deliver.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Not many people want to talk to us. They seem
- 3:11Speaker 1: pretty sick of media attention already. But ironically we met
- 3:14Speaker 1: a guy who's traveled all the way from Europe to
- 3:16Speaker 1: report on this by election.
- 3:18Speaker 2: You're at the BBC.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard the BBC. So you're a Norwegian reporter?
- 3:22Speaker 2: Yes, i am, I am, and I'm here to follow
- 3:24Speaker 2: the by election. This is a global story.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I met with a Japanese team down the roads. But
- 3:30Speaker 1: why are the stake so high? Well, Andy Burnham is
- 3:33Speaker 1: not just competing for this one seat. He's basically fighting
- 3:35Speaker 1: to prove that he's a guy who can help labor
- 3:37Speaker 1: beat reform, and that could backfire. Reform of gained big
- 3:41Speaker 1: momentum in places like Makeerfield recently and taking votes off
- 3:44Speaker 1: of Labor and the Conservatives. They've gone support on things
- 3:47Speaker 1: like immigration, cost of living and distrust in politics, so
- 3:50Speaker 1: make Afield is a risky place for Labor to run.
- 3:52Speaker 1: In the last general election in twenty twenty four, this
- 3:55Speaker 1: was how the constituency voted just over forty five percent
- 3:58Speaker 1: Labor and thirty one point eight percent for Reform. That's
- 4:01Speaker 1: pretty tight, but it might be exactly the gamble Labour
- 4:03Speaker 1: want to take.
- 4:04Speaker 2: This constituency has been a safe Labour seat for decades
- 4:07Speaker 2: and it's in a part of the country, the northwest
- 4:08Speaker 2: of England, that has traditionally been a bit of a
- 4:11Speaker 2: Labour heartland. Is also the sort of constituency that Nigel
- 4:14Speaker 2: Faraj's party needs to win if he is to become
- 4:17Speaker 2: the next Prime Minister. For Andy Burnham, the Labour candidate
- 4:20Speaker 2: a mayor of Greater Manchester. This is also a big
- 4:22Speaker 2: opportunity to prove he has a way to beat reform
- 4:26Speaker 2: because the challenge that Nigel Faraja's party poses the Labor
- 4:29Speaker 2: Party is one of their biggest challenges looking ahead to
- 4:33Speaker 2: the next general election. This whole contest is intensely awkward
- 4:36Speaker 2: for Kis Starmer because it could end with him being
- 4:40Speaker 2: challenged as leader of the Labor Party. It means that yes,
- 4:43Speaker 2: Labour are backing Andy Burnham as their candidate, but him
- 4:46Speaker 2: running for this election could end up with their leader
- 4:50Speaker 2: Kiirstarmer being challenged at the end of it.
- 4:52Speaker 1: We'll be back here next week once the election results
- 4:54Speaker 1: are in to explain what happens next, what it means
- 4:56Speaker 1: for Makefield and for the rest of the UK. But
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- 5:01Speaker 1: Here's a full list of candidates who are running.