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Is Patrick Mahomes Now The Goat? + Stu Feiner's Insane Gambling Life · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, you've had to make a couple of calls
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  Speaker 1: over her during your time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I've had to make like forty calls that I
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  Speaker 2: can't tell any of them. That's the only soft one
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  Speaker 2: I can tell. Yeah, I've made a lot of calls.
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  Speaker 1: You can make calls still, I.
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  Speaker 2: Have no choice. I've made a lot of things, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of really disgusting, ugly like holy fuck, like
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  Speaker 2: how did? How can you deliver it yourself? And you
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  Speaker 2: do what you gotta do.
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  Speaker 3: Betting on a game.
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  Speaker 2: No moment's gonna tell us what you can not be
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  Speaker 2: over here.
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  Speaker 1: Just drinking beer.
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  Speaker 2: And making that baby, I'm hanging with the Fellers. He's
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  Speaker 2: busting with the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Bro there it is good after me and ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of Busting with the Boys,
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  Speaker 3: Episode too sixty one. After the Conference Championships. Let's go boys.
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  Speaker 3: We had a hell of a lot of ball today.
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  Speaker 3: We are going to get into the Conference championships. Mitch
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  Speaker 3: is gonna have himself a massive possible redemption day. When
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the twisted Question of the Week presented
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  Speaker 3: by Twister Tee. If you need one of those pipers
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  Speaker 3: in AMBV but don't tuck out right now. But what
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  Speaker 3: else we got? Is there anything else?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we're prepping, We're prepping. Yeah, yeah, we had
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  Speaker 4: Stu Finer, incredible interview. The interviews like two hours and
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  Speaker 4: forty five minutes. Tayla and I collectively probably spoke five minutes,
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  Speaker 4: so two hours and forty minutes of stew Finer. It
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  Speaker 4: is absolutely like you can put yourself in, walk yourself through,
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  Speaker 4: like you're watching.
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  Speaker 3: A movie, yeah, a Mafia movie if you are so good.
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  Speaker 3: So you're watching on YouTube and when Stuke comes on
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  Speaker 3: for two hours and forty five minutes, just close your
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  Speaker 3: eyes and picture in your head. That's all you gotta
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  Speaker 3: do in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: Really, is what's that Rumble?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Rumble or Rumble or if you're on Rumble or YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: YouTube er rumble, do whatever you want, do what you want. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I can't do that.
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  Speaker 4: Hey in the in the and they call the action
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  Speaker 4: like being we uh barstool were We're doing a deal
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  Speaker 4: with the Rumble, big opportunity to show that the boys
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  Speaker 4: move audience. So if you're watching right now, wherever you're
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  Speaker 4: head over download the Rumble app follow busting with the boys.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get these numbers up. We're all starting ground floor
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  Speaker 4: and I love to see the tier ones and everybody
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  Speaker 4: show out. Move over to Rumble and just do it.
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  Speaker 1: For the boys. You don't even just do it for
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  Speaker 1: the boys. Great account, get the follow button busting with
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  Speaker 1: the boys on Rumble.
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  Speaker 4: And that's that's my call to action, because arm and arm, right,
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  Speaker 4: arm and arms, because in two days.
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  Speaker 3: Time, busting with the boys in a contract to your boys.
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  Speaker 3: We are in a contract here. And what better way
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  Speaker 3: to show off what the boys can bring is when
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  Speaker 3: you start from the ground floor on a different platform. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: and that's all up to you, guys. You guys, do
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  Speaker 3: what you want that thing. But let's get right into it. Boys,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk jeffsm.
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  Speaker 1: Oh for today is in Monday. Today is in as
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  Speaker 1: in Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So if you're listening to this right now,
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  Speaker 3: me Eater, the boy and I we went up to Montana.
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  Speaker 3: I know, it's awesome. We went up there with a
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  Speaker 3: couple of the meat eater guys. We went on a
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  Speaker 3: duck hunt. It was we were definitely fish out of
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  Speaker 3: water in a couple of situations.
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  Speaker 1: We did solid no, no, we.
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  Speaker 3: We did well. Now that they have a vlog that's
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  Speaker 3: coming out that'll show all of that. Pretty solid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Steve cal Col's dog, Steve was Steve is truly when
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  Speaker 3: you watch the show alone, he's the he's the victor
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  Speaker 3: every single time. He's the guy that just put things together.
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  Speaker 3: I think we told the story about the beaver, but literally,
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  Speaker 3: like me, Jp Will, we were sitting in his truck
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  Speaker 3: with him like his three kids, watching him essentially put
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  Speaker 3: together traps and all that after.
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  Speaker 4: The hunt, thinking we're going, okay, now we're gonna go
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  Speaker 4: eat some food, like a little hungry, like okay.
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  Speaker 3: Now I haven't eaten yet.
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  Speaker 4: Today it's taking us to finally go eat some food,
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  Speaker 4: stay warm. And all of a sudden he pulls off
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  Speaker 4: into a graveyard and just gets a scent, starts getting
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  Speaker 4: on some beaver scent, like, hey, there's just been this
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  Speaker 4: beaver around here.
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  Speaker 3: Turn some stuff up them and go go check it
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  Speaker 3: out for the boy. On some neighbor stuff, just on
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  Speaker 3: some good neighbor stuff. Parkore is over a fence, yes,
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  Speaker 3: just ripping down. I try to hop the fence. It
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  Speaker 3: hurt the shit out of my knee.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, we'll stay up here, Steve.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fat Boy did back over, but it was it
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  Speaker 3: was an incredible time. I hope you guys turn into
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  Speaker 3: that Meat Eater podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And that I hate.
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  Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed to say this, but I did not know.
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  Speaker 4: I knew that they were big. I did not know
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  Speaker 4: that their brand was what it was great and I
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  Speaker 4: was I was pumped.
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  Speaker 1: They checked me.
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  Speaker 4: I was wearing the wrong gear when I walked in.
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  Speaker 4: Won't shout out because no free shout outs to that
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  Speaker 4: brand because now they're an enemy because you want to
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  Speaker 4: support the Mediator brand, but they check you right when
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  Speaker 4: you walk in.
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  Speaker 1: When we posted our.
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  Speaker 4: Photo that we were doing a collab with Meat Eater,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that night we were talking about the
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  Speaker 4: next day, all of my buddies that were just hitting
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  Speaker 4: me up, saying, oh, you're doing a media collab, like
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  Speaker 4: once they come out, are you actually doing the show
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  Speaker 4: or are you just doing the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I have no clue. They just want to
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  Speaker 1: do a collapse.
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  Speaker 4: So We're just out here ready to go duck hunting,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm feeling kind of bad because I'm like a
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  Speaker 4: once a year fluff kind of hunter, like would love
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  Speaker 4: to get into doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I checked the box. I give it the boys.
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  Speaker 4: We have a good time, but I'm not like a
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  Speaker 4: true through and through a hunter all year round like
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  Speaker 4: a lot of my friends that are hitting me up.
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  Speaker 4: So part of me feels bad that I'm getting to
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  Speaker 4: experience the meat eater collaboration versus them.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't know that they were as massive as
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  Speaker 1: they were, and that's on me. That's on me.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm glad that we are now friends. I loved
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  Speaker 4: I love being out there with them.
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  Speaker 3: The good news is you don't have to shoulder that
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  Speaker 3: burden alone because I definitely had a couple of boys
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  Speaker 3: out and asy Ken Croden and both Cambell to be specific,
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  Speaker 3: that we're like, holy shit, you're doing that. And these
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  Speaker 3: guys are always trying to get tags for this and that,
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  Speaker 3: and they're out every day in the winter time trying
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  Speaker 3: to hunt up at five am, like truly living it.
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  Speaker 3: And we essentially went clamping like we had some man
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  Speaker 3: stuff and we did all the things and all the
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  Speaker 3: real men, we did some man stuff, all the things
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  Speaker 3: that the real men want to do. We kind of
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  Speaker 3: just cut the line and got the deal. So you're
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  Speaker 3: shouldering the burden with that. The story about your hunting guys,
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  Speaker 3: it was a heartbreaker for me when you when they
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  Speaker 3: were talking about how they should go out with the meat.
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  Speaker 1: Eater guys, Yeah, we were.
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  Speaker 4: We were at our annual Texas hunting trip and it
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  Speaker 4: happened in December, and then we're sitting around the fire
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  Speaker 4: and they were talking like, Hey, one of these times
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  Speaker 4: we should go up to Montana and get in touch
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  Speaker 4: with with Steve and see if we can do a
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  Speaker 4: hunt out there. And I'm just thinking, like, yeah, boys,
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  Speaker 4: about that, I think bust. When the boys were going
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  Speaker 4: out there next month, like, oh no shit, they were
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  Speaker 4: like they were awesome about it, but I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: your boys already doing that the least hunter of this
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  Speaker 4: entire crew. And I had an ex teammate, Jake West
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  Speaker 4: shout out Jake Wesh he was a punter in Nebraska,
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  Speaker 4: and he's like, bro, I love everything busting that you
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  Speaker 4: guys do, but this is by far head and shoulders
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  Speaker 4: above the rest.
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  Speaker 3: My most excited collap to see you guys do. It's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be awesome. Yeah. Graham Glasgow, who was just playing
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  Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship last night, texting me and it was like,
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  Speaker 3: Frank Ragnow is in my ear about get like, just
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  Speaker 3: please say something to them about Frank Ragnow.
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  Speaker 4: Frank was in was in the comments when we were
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  Speaker 4: posting this stuff on instagrah because you know Frank, he's
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  Speaker 4: like he's been a fisher. I'm pretty sure I'm guessing
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  Speaker 4: hunter like he's all the stuff out doors blanket statement
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  Speaker 4: that yeah, yeah, he belongs on a place like media
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  Speaker 4: and I believe he has his own YouTube channel and
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  Speaker 4: everything like that. And because we were kind of telling
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  Speaker 4: the media your boys if they're dipping their toes and like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, taking on athletes like obviously in football, there's
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  Speaker 4: so many guys, there's so many outdoorsmen that they could
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  Speaker 4: kind of do something similar they did with us and
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  Speaker 4: kind of just take other guys like you know, Frank
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  Speaker 4: have Frank out host Frank, Yeah, they should have.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was go check that podcast out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be awesome, dude, really excited to see because
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  Speaker 3: they were actually talking about coming down to the South too,
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  Speaker 3: talk about noodling, which you were I'm not gonna speak
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  Speaker 3: for your own emotions, but it wasn't the number one
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  Speaker 3: thing you wanted to do.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes you gotta you gotta draw a line in the
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  Speaker 4: sand and I feel like noodling, Yeah, or the waters,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like noodling, Like sticking your arm in one
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  Speaker 4: of them the mudholes.
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  Speaker 1: Just that doesn't it wouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Be the first time you did it.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, no noodling for your boy. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure I can be talked into about. I truly
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  Speaker 4: am going to be terrified.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta get gritty, dude, pop off one of those
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  Speaker 3: stake teeth and just buy like dive into the culture
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  Speaker 3: of giddy of noodling.
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  Speaker 4: First scary movie of my life and a Conda oh
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  Speaker 4: so good.
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  Speaker 3: And that was where I've at the same time, like
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  Speaker 3: linke Placid came out, right, Yeah, Lake Placid was a
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: few years later, but yes, definitely the same era that say, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that was my biggest fear is snakes. That is my
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  Speaker 3: of all the animals in the Kingdom of Animals, like
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  Speaker 3: that is the number one, Like the serpents, like JP Bible,
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: like they they call it top of the Devil. They
• 8:24
  Speaker 3: talk about serpents, right, like a lot of are we
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  Speaker 3: like letting these things around here? Just wi there's a
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  Speaker 3: guy on Instagram and I hate I don't hate that
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  Speaker 3: we're giving a bunch of shadouts. But there's a guy
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram who goes to the Florida Everglades with his
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  Speaker 3: bare feet. Yeah, Helon loves too. And he's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: look a small little thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah a python. Yeah for me, for me's pythons.
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  Speaker 2: I'll pull him up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. He's on a hunt for a twenty foot python.
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  Speaker 3: He caught like a nineteen one. The one tries to
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  Speaker 3: get him. He does this like acrobatic jump out of the
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  Speaker 3: way and snatches it by like the top of the
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  Speaker 3: head and catches it. Dudes walking through Florida with no
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  Speaker 3: shoes on will so he's like, look at this little
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  Speaker 3: swamp puppy right here. It's just a crocodile three feet
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  Speaker 3: from him.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this swamp puppy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is him, right, this is that's Look at that.
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  Speaker 3: He's in the swamp with his feet like that. Dude,
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  Speaker 3: he's just a.
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  Speaker 1: He's just old testament.
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  Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's a chosen one. Yeah, this kid, look
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  Speaker 3: at him? See that there ship my pants?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Like that to me is like, yo, you're you're reaching
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  Speaker 4: your hand in this hole like anything could be in there.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking snappy. We haven't even gotten into snapping.
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  Speaker 3: Snap and throlls. Take a finger, no problem, dude. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: even look at that. And his dialogue during it too,
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  Speaker 3: is pretty funny because he's so he just plays everything
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  Speaker 3: down so much, but it is. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: wild deal. But yeah, I think if I want we
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  Speaker 3: went out there again, you noodle, Yeah, I would do it.
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  Speaker 1: You were kind of like about it.
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  Speaker 4: I like, I wanted to just stand strong, like, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 4: this is going to be a long uphill I got.
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  Speaker 4: I truly don't think I'll do this unless a couple
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  Speaker 4: of you guys already go, and then I'll stick my
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  Speaker 4: hand in.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of therapy session. Because I know very little about noodling,
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  Speaker 3: but I do know that people have told me if
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  Speaker 3: it's a circle, that's where your catfish is. If it's
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  Speaker 3: an oval, which very similar shapes, I know, if it's
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  Speaker 3: an oval, that's when you're snapping turtle central. That's the
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  Speaker 3: only thing I know about noodling. The idea of being underwater,
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  Speaker 3: holding your breath you're tugging away with this twenty pound
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  Speaker 3: catfish is scary, but I view it the same way
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  Speaker 3: as like, well, comes out of the oval snapping turtle,
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: and I could be totally wrong. Chat hit me up, chat,
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  Speaker 3: let us know. But I will say, like I put
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  Speaker 3: noodling in the same category as skydiving, like sitting here
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  Speaker 3: on this BLUs right now, I say, yes, I do it,
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: but I'm sure once I got to the moment, it'd
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: be shitting bricks type of situation, very nervous type of situation.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: Break your arm too, Yeah, you can break your own
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: phone down the stairs, brother.
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  Speaker 4: Like I guess you could like die, like you can
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  Speaker 4: have like a malfunction in skydiving.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like the skydiving.
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  Speaker 3: The size of that.
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  Speaker 2: Thing, Oh my eighty four pound catfish.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine choking a bear of that thing that is actually
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: bigger than both my child and combined. That's nuts. But
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: he wanted people walk.
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: If you guys noodle say we did ah say, they
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: came down and we did like another media to collaboration
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  Speaker 4: with them doing calf fishing, Like if we backed up,
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  Speaker 4: will we be able to throw one of the boys
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  Speaker 4: in there.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it's the snapping turtle thing that gives me a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of the wies. The oval that juster toe
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  Speaker 5: like an alligator snapping turtle sounds.
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  Speaker 3: See I think that honestly, what it's not the end
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  Speaker 3: of the world to me. A finger your arm, Yes,
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: like you start losing your hand, but just stick with
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: me for a second. You lose a toe, you you
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: lose like to that first knuckle of like a pinky
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: finger or a ring finger. That's kind of cool. It's
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: kind of cool because now you have a story forever
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: with your hands. Say, yo, what's the deal with tom?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he lost that finger. How did it happen? No
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: one's ever really asked him. But now there's a mystique
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  Speaker 3: about you. There's little something different, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But once you get in the conversation like, oh man,
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: so you kind of you do all the outdoors noodly
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  Speaker 4: and you're.
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  Speaker 1: Just like, no been, You say, no, I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: ever since.
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: The lot of their faces, lot of their faces immediately, Yo, bro,
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  Speaker 3: I really do all that. Yeah, I'm actually going on
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  Speaker 3: with the Sharks next week. You're not gonna you're sit
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  Speaker 3: in the air conditioned house. But look at that thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's not just taking a pink no that you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're showing a big boy, a big hawk guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's that deep oval holes.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, that's a lot things doing that thing's giving you
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  Speaker 3: a manny petty. That's not a big deal at all.
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  Speaker 3: Who's that guy that two turned Tony? That his name.
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  Speaker 3: He's got a duck, but he's also got a video
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  Speaker 3: he catches a snapping turtle like rolls one of his
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  Speaker 3: his te's towards it. Remember he snaps it can flies
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  Speaker 3: like a mouse trap.
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  Speaker 4: When we were talking to that Amazonian psychopath in New York.
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  Speaker 3: The waiter, ye yes, bro, that was the most unique conversation,
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  Speaker 3: like NPC type ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he like overheard us. I don't even know we
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  Speaker 1: were talking talking about.
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  Speaker 4: But this guy was talking to saying that you go
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  Speaker 4: to these certain jungles in the world and it's it's
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  Speaker 4: essentially like all the oversized animals you can think of.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I think it was specifically. Yeah, I've heard about that.
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  Speaker 4: There's like monsters, massive anacondas everywhere, like just massive animals.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: This this uh, this shop, this breakfast spot is right
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  Speaker 3: next to barstool hqu in New York.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we went there.
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  Speaker 3: We flew and we grabbed a bike before we went
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  Speaker 3: on the fores and yeah, and we're just sitting there
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  Speaker 3: having a meal and our waiter comes up and starts
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  Speaker 3: having a conversation with us about I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: if we were really talking about it, but he's from
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  Speaker 3: Brazil or someplace in South America where the Amazon forest is,
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  Speaker 3: and he talks about these tribes that are in the
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  Speaker 3: forest that like people go in but they do not
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  Speaker 3: come back out. A waiter in New York and he's
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: talking about anacondas that make like trenches like legit have
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: like there's slithering marks. I don't know what those are called.
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  Speaker 3: Their track marks are legit like seems like eighteen wheelers
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  Speaker 1: That's what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me, uh, Ayahuasca, that's exactly what we're talking because
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: you're talking about how euphoria like how you fork everything
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  Speaker 3: is and you start talking about these jungles and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's another that is another. Yeah, but that you brought
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: up out another thing that I would that Ayahuasca is
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  Speaker 3: when the moment came to do it, I would be
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  Speaker 3: very nervous. What am I gonna find o about myself?
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  Speaker 3: Am I ever going to be the same?
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  Speaker 3: Like I but I think it's very like the idea
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• 14:35
  Speaker 3: ayahuasca is, and then you go walk around and he
• 14:38
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• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you do. You you vomit everywhere. I
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: don't know. I really don't know. But there's there's stories
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: of these these people that farm and Malibu, Malibu, California,
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  Speaker 3: that have like they take you on ayahuasca trips, like
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: they are their guides up there in the hills of Malibu.
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  Speaker 3: I think that'd be kind of typed figure out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Shout out everybody who showed up last night for the
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that was awesome.
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• 17:01
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we wanted to do a little test run on
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  Speaker 4: one of the was just Championship week. I don't think
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: we're not gonna do it after the Super Bowl.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe we could. We wanted to get a
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the boys uh mentioned JP at the shop.
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  Speaker 1: I know I saw that you guys rocking at the shop.
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  Speaker 3: You guys were rock That's that's very cool of you
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• 17:35
  Speaker 1: A little more like yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we wanted to get that test, kind
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  Speaker 4: Obviously games get over way later, so we'll have to
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• 17:47
  Speaker 4: in this day and age. But yes, it could be
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  Speaker 4: on a consistent basis. So shout out everybody who uh
• 17:55
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• 17:58
  Speaker 4: a little bit, chiefs. I mean, it's they're they're inevitable.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're inevitable. And I know Raven fans are still
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: waking up this morning really upset, probably still upset with me.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: You saw you saw my little tweet I posted out
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: about Bubba four one two. I mean, you can tell
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: he makes bad life decisions based on the Maryland tattoo
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: on his chest and his profile picture. Guy was talking
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: all kinds of trash. Hit me again in the DM, saying,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: ha ha, you're gonna try better than that. I don't
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: gotta try much. You gotta love, Yeah, you gotta love
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the fight and I respect it. University of Arizona alum.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if the kids from Arizona, but good
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: for him. Ravens fans, you guys will get there. The
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: issue is is you're in the same conference as the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: baby goat.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And the referees. I'm just saying.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And there was one bat save Flowers fumbled, Say Flowers fumbled,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: but man, he doesn't fumble.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He said.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: If he breaks the plane, you win the game. You
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: you win that game. The penalties that were called, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: there was the conspiracy. Did you guys see week going
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: up to this conspiracy theories about the refs. These refs
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: are that were calling this game, the AFC Championship game
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: apparently do like thirty percent more calls on the home
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: team than any other ref reffing crew. And all of
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the NFL. There was there was legit conspiracy theories going
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: on about this, how the NFL wants needs Travis Kelsey,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: and so this this officiating crew was put in place
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to help guide that. Now you want that, though, yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: what you do want, like the most advantageous for all
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: parties involved is Mahomes, Kelsey Swift. Yeah, there was also
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: a thing I saw on Instagram this morning. Obviously game
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: of my news from Instagram, but who knows if it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: really real or not. NFL the revenue generated since Taylor
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Swift has been introduced into the NFL this year, it's
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: like thirty three million dollars. It might even be three
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three million dollars, Like I forget if
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I'm missing a zero or not. There's no question she's
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: She's also creating jobs like the watch super the tickets to.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: This game.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: She just one is nine thousand dollars. This is not
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the year to not be in the league, buddy. Not
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: that we sell now you can't sell them. For the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: NFL rules, you can't sell. But if you wanted to,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: as players, you get them at a wholesale price and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you're able to handle yourself. Yeah, give him to a
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: family or something. Give to a family member for nine
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars that family member as well off. And uh yeah,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I mean we have a whole live reaction show on
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: this if you guys want to go tune into that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: We had obviously we'll already touched on how many people
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: came and to wash it was, it was awesome. But
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: this game, it's truly just Patrick mahomes.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Many and on the Taylor stop creating jobs like Kyle
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: juice check, how do you see you check? His wife
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: like she's been doing designing all the you know, she
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: designs basically like fang gear for like the women who
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: are supporting their their other on the field, more.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Flowers and that they take jerseys, game warn jerseys and
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: she implements them into jackets, shirts, different clothing apparel.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: And then she made one for Taylor Swift, just to
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: make one on the low leg because obviously she can't
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: sell this stuff because it's licensed and everything else. But
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: you're just wearing it again to support you've seen kittles.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: She obviously Kyle's wife reps it Kittle's repped it.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: She made one for Taylor Swift. She walks to the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: game with this jacket on, with the jersey. She put
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the jersey over the jacket and since then overnight gained
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: like half a million followers. And the NFL, I believe,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: is licensing a deal with her to make that kind
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of gear. That's incredible, dude, isn't that awesome?
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: U Check's wife.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just like like all that, like the arts
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: and crafting of making.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: All this stuff up.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm sure you'll be looking at it on
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: the screen right now. But she kind of does this
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: for a lot of the wives and girlfriends in the NFL,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: just to like do it for fun. But now it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: called win because Taylor Swift wore to a game and now.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: She's got to deal with the NFL to like make
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: this gear.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's only one big loser in this whole Taylor
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Swift saw that on this big cat like she has won.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: She's want everybody's heart. So I think I think at
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: first we were a little kind of peeved, like, hey,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: this is a little too much, because like, let's get
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: back to the game a little bit.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Mich was so pissed off in the beginning.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Was he like, oh, it takes away from the guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: who've been working their whole lives to get on the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: screen after they score a touchdown.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Fayler Swift, it was that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: It was that one time when Pacheco scored and immediately
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: it went to Taylor Swift.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And it was in his hometown too, right, it was.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: In uh when they were playing the Jets. Okay, it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: like the first game she was at, but that part
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: michs lived. But they've gotten better.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: We almost didn't have a podcast that week because Mitch
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: couldn't calm down.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a list. I'm not going to produce
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: this episode.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Like mich Swift though, because the broadcast put her on
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: last night and you can see her in the suite
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: looking at the TV seeing herself in like a real
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: time and you can see your mouth go away, like
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: cause she's like getting annoyed herself being put on the broadcast.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: So did she seems like a I'll just say this,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: she seems like a real one. Dog, thank you for
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: saying that, do you not, Jamie?
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: I don't have I have no idea if she's a
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: real one.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I just you think you could still be theatrics.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: The relationship, Yeah, no, the relationship could be real. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: I just I'm I'm just not the biggest Taylor Swift fan.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: I don't like hater, but I.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Like your music.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: My I think she she puts off, she puts out bangers,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: all that stuff. But it's and I know they're teaching
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: classes about Taylor Swift now in college, like marketing, brand management,
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: like all this stuff, how she blew up. But I
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: just think, like, there's so many more talented people in
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: that industry than Taylor Swift, and it just I don't know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, man, like that's a hater, hater. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: think she makes good music.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: You can have incredibly talented people that don't have the
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: drive to push in the direction she did. Though. Taylor
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: Swift started as a sixteen year old girl seeing Tim
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: McGraw and put it Yeah, put out it out, and
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: then had had the capability and the wherewithalf to pivot
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: from country music and now go into this electric pop
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: star that has taken over the entire world, to project
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: herself into the three comic category in the bank.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Account and going after big label.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know much about that I was okay with.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: This big label created her. That's what I'm saying.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: If you without Screwter Brown, without like that marketing machine,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: does somebody she's a great songwriter, Does somebody with that
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: level of talent make it all the way to the top. Yes,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: they screwed her, but ultimately it went really well for her.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: We're not talking about the top where we're talking about
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: two continental divides clashing together and growing and growing, growing,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: just like Mount Everest. Taylor Swift has taken the top
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: to a new level.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Who's the other who's the other kind? Who's the divide?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: That's that's how Mount Everest got made. The idea is Pangaea,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: and then the two continents came together and slowly pushed
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: themselves up. And every year the the Mount Everest grows
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: like like six feet or six inches something like that,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: but it incrementally gets bigger and bigger every single year.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: That's a great analogy.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Thanks brother, And I'm glad I got to explain it
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: because I know there's somebody that comments, going this guy,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. He just
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: made that whole thing up.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Like I guess that's in the game in the world
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: of like who's the who's the most talented. I'm just
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: saying with the entire microscope on Kelsey and Swift this year,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: being able to kind of like watch her and observe
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: throughout the entire year, like seeing her after the game,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: seeing the way it's all went down, Like seeing the
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: way the families are kind of engaged. It just seems
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: like they have like a true relationship going on.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I don't who knows.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: If it's like the glitz, the glamour, everybody's caught up
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: in the moment, who cares having fun, but they really do,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I mess with she seems like
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: a real one.
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: I think her being a part of the Kelsey family
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: is only gonna have her trend up in my own
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: rankings because their family seems awesome and super down to earth.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Like you saw Jason and Travis kind of talking about
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the first time Jason met her right last week, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like stuff blacked out. Yeah. This.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: But the thing too about Taylor Swift, She's not coming
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: in there with all these designer things like you see
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: so many celebrities.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It's like La rams nice stuff on.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: She had nice stuff on, but she's rocking the clothes,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: she's walking me approach. She has some Customs stuff on,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: but she's still Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs. She's not sitting on
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: her phone at the game. Every time they pan to her,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: she's screaming her face off. She's buying into the culture
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: of the NFL. She's not saying be more like me.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: She's like, let me be more like you. And that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: is a super relatable thing for a person that is
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: the star of all stars right now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Subjective art, right, music is a subjective art. So am
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I like the biggest music Taylor Swift fan? No, it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: not like what I'm in. I'm just not what I'm into.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I'm into that like you know what I'm into. Boys,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you know what I like. But you can at least
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: look at it and appreciate it, because being like the
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: most talented doesn't make you the best.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: JP hates her man, I hate when though the will
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: she makes a Super Bowl dilemma.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: There's like a whole thing because the Swift us to
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: be somewhere right's in Tokyo from the seventh to the
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: tenth on her errors to her so she her last
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: show is like uh starts six pm, seven pm whatever,
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: the tenth Tokyo time, and everyone's already been doing the math,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: like she can make it back. She leaves posts show
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: in Tokyo at eleven pm, which is six am like
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: US time. Vegas time gets back with I want to say,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: like thirteen hours pre kickoff, so she has like a
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: full night's sleep, can make it for the three thirty
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: kick or whatever. So I think if she shows up
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: after being in Tokyo for four days, you gotta just
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: agree that she is a real one.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: She's got all the tools to make it happen. Oh,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: she's got she's got all the resources to make sure
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: she makes.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Everreye Airport and what this is gonna be.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only way this hurts her, The
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: only way it hurts her is if she doesn't make it. Yeah,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: if she doesn't make it to the super Bowl, then
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: we got to sit on this podcast a week later,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: being like the NF.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: On the tarmac, she's sitting on the runway for whatever reason,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: like if the effort's there, like that's.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the tarmac. I need her on that plane. And
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: there better be a fucking weather advisory in Tokyo. That's
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: a hurricane type situation where she just can't get out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: And if you want to double up your viewership there,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: then you just put a camera like this is Taylor Swift,
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: She's sitting on the tarmac walk. You just have that
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: going that Taylor watch going right next to the You.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Need another plane, just like when OJ Simpson was running
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: from the police, Like have a camera on the plane
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the whole time, keeping track of work tailors. She's now
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: halfway through the Atlantic. Right now we go through you
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: through the Pacific right to get back. Yeah, you have
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: to the Pacific. Maybe stop off in Hawaii. I don't
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: know that. I'm not gred at with geography.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: That's off to the chiefs.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: That's off to the chiefs. I was gonna go twist
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the question, but we need to talk of lines. In
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers Biggest stumbled Bag of all Time by
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, I.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Mean thus far. Yeah, I mean you get to the
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: NFC champion, I could not. I mean you can speak
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: to it a little bit being up and then not
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: to like open a wound. But I'm saying like, as
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: a player, I feel like you're sitting there at halftime,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: you know you got two more quarters like, hey, you
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: gotta step on the throw, you gotta keep the you
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: gotta keep the pedal of the metal boys. But you're
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: sitting there like, you know, yo, we're fucking about to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: be going to the super Bowl, like we're fucking doing it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: You're kind of like, you know, people whoever's at home,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the families, they're starting to try to book whatever they can,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: right right, And all of a sudden, that second half happens.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Go fourth on fourth to two. Who's Josh Reynolds? Is
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Josh Reynolds Reynolds? Yeah, Josh drops the ball on fourth
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: and two, which is.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Like, man, why not just take the three points?
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you take the three analytics bite you in the ass, man,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and then the Sparks they go down and score turnover,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: score right, and then they're literally back in a tie
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: ball game going into the fourth quarter.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: The amount of juice that the forty nine ers played
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: with in the second half was uncanny. It was incredible
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: to see the way they were flying around. There was
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: like bullets, missiles flying to the pile when dudes were
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: hung up a little bit like there were multiple times
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: like dudes are getting their heads fucking taken off.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Warner was out there.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: It's a mistinger who's a green light thing, bro j greenlaw.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: He gets that stinger that was now this is in
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the first half, gets the stinger, understands the circumstances. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: gotta get my ass back up there. We've all had stingers.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe one of the worst pains you can deal with
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: for a moment, dude, it is you feel your whole
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: body shutting down. Then like five minutes are like, okay,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm all right, but anytime I move my
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: head a little bit this way, it goes down again like.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: A little zap, right and he they they were.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Flying around like mad dogs. Yeah. Same And then that play, Yeah, Brandon,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: are you which catch? No catch? It doesn't really matter, right,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: there's a fly that's gonna be past interference, so they're
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: gonna get the ball half the distance of the goal
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: in that situation. But that is, truly that's the spark
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: that that play right there is what sent the lines down.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Fucking hell.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Man, Like he didn't have the best stat line, but again,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: like brog makes some of these plays. Man, what's dangerous
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: is Mahomes was like what thirty for thirty nine? I mean,
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: he's just got the fucking look in his eye. That's terrifying.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I just don't do what oh more than.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Back like bro not.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: He had eleven targets and eleven receptions and they played
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: back three or four of us catches that he had insane.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: That ball into the end zone incredible, the one to
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: get the first down. I believe it was on fourth
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: or was it third down? The way he reached up
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: and went he got it. For the life of me,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: cannot understand why he was finding some windows though in
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: that zone coverage looking at the Ravens defense. How are
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: you not? Would you guys call it star double the
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: star star like Travis kill dude. All year long, the
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Kansas City receivers have been liabilities to Darius Darius whatever
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: the hell's name is, Katoni, whatever his fucking name is.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: He's on Instagram live.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: He saw that.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Ship about a team that's gonna go to the super
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Bowl this year. They like and this is no disrespect,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: but they have been liabilities drop balls after drop balls.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: The only guy that is consistent is Travis Kelcey. How
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: are you not double A? He's he's come on and
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: what the last four or five weeks he.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Was pretty good throughout the year. Remember a big cow
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: that was one of the names that you thought was fake.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like he's shown up throughout the year.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: But yeah, they've had they've had drops and big moments.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: They look like the team that's just like you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I mean four out of the last six years they've
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: been to the super Bowl.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: And you can't tell me that uh CMC wasn't concussed
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: after that hit. His head bounced off, just his head
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: bounced off the turf.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: But he's such a fucking dog.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: He's a dog, and he just walks out. He says,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: give me one. I thanks the last times, like, hey,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I hope your heads good, congratulations and he said it
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: just takes back I'm fine.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hell yeah, oh yeah, okay.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Kelsey dude, especially like he didn't have a
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: thousand yard year and was kind of like, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: up and down at times, or an injury late in
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the year. But dude, I mean he acquired he always
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: acquires his infinity stones in the playoffs.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: It feels like that's all that the Chiefs do. Yeah,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: set the record, set the records. I think he blew
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the record out right. He had like five more catches
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: than the record, and he still got another game. If
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: he doesn't retire after this year, I think could be
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: a possibility.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I think he retires.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I think he retires might as well.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: If you win, if you win, if you win.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: And he's made so every fucking commercial. Bro, He's in
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: every commercial, every commercial, dude, every single one. And he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: not bad at them. Everything commercial, the psychic commercial, it's solid.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: He does a good job being mad. He can act.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: But JJ walla saying, hey, be careful because the overexposure
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: JJ wall was talking about. When he became big, he
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: gets all these massive deals, films, five ten commercials in
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: the off season. Next season comes around and every other commercial.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Is him and people.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: It's like the death of overexposure. Like if you get
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: too exposed and people start to get annoyed. I like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Traut's so cool, jjj didn't.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Have Like this is even like usually what happens. This
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: is like the Taylor Swift that happens. A you going
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to start them, we won't say Taylor Swift. Then the
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: next year, after everyone's kind of learned who you are,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: you get over saturated, like you're saying, now, it's like
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: people are finding the NFL for the first time and
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: want to know more and more about Travis. So all
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: these commercials are now like it's even better. It's working
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: in his favor as opposed to being overstatury because we
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: were like, oh, look at his personality. Oh that's adorable.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Oh foot long.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Trail their documentary on Amazon Prime. What Yeah, the Kelsey's
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: that came out.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Like early in the year last year.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: We did it really?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Oh that was last year? Four Yeah, yeah, it covered last.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Year, ma'am. Yeah. And it's crazy that the great like
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: someone who are we probably will eventually be talking about
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: as who's the goat Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes. Patrick
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Mahomes is overshadowed by Travis Kelce right now, that's like
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: an insane all these crazy storylines this year, dude.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Now there are some rumblings out there. I would love
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: your guys have taken the back Patrick Mahomes. He wins
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and you read goat.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Oh people are.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Trying to call for it. You had a great analogy
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: last night or the chat? Did you enter the chat?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: You walk into the room, which is fair, but I.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Think no matter what.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady, oh yeah, I agree with that.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: In the in the head to head, I think even
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: win because I do think I do think Mahomes can
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: beat what is that?
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: How many time have seven? Yeah, I think Mahomes can
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: beat that. Yeah, there was a conversation. I think part
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: of my take had this conversation. Hank was a part
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: of it, and he obviously didn't handle it very well.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: But the conversation he gets seven, Yeah, if he gets seven.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Look at the first six years of Tom Brady's career
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: vers the first six years of Patrick Mahomes. Who now
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: here's the win hold on hunt. Patrick Mahomes has one
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: more win and Tom Brady obviously has one more loss.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady's QBR is like eighty eight point nine. Patrick's
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: in the one hundreds. They're a touchdown to interception ratio,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: completely different. Pat crushes him in that situation. We're talking
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: about the first six years of play, and they both
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: have three super Bowls. If he wins the Super Bowl,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: if they if if right now, just on how you're
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: looking at the past, you're edging to Patrick Mahomes over
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Yeah, but he's got to keep the consistency
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: for another fourteen years.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Like if you look at Brady,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: he does like as far as like in the amount
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: of time. Mahomes is the most gifted quarterback, the best
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: quarterback we've seen in like the short period in this generation.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: But Tom won super Bowls in like three different eras
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: he played twenty four fucking years.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Such a great that's such a great tweet.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Is that right there?
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: It's most postseason QB wins in NFL history. The number
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: one leader Tom Brady with thirty five. The next closest
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: is Joe Montana was sixteen. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes got out
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: to play for a few more years to even get
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: in this conversation.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I dude, But still he's still coming away with the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: hardware at the very end.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: I think Pat has the capability to catch Tom in
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: rings way quicker than it took Tom.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Right because he's in twenty four years and when you
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: look at when they played head to head, he was
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: what was what forty five years old?
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I think he's not even forty five yet. His head. Yeah,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: but you want to talk about unforced situations, like they're
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: not putting to an O. D Ford's on side in
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: that game, no question, Yeah, no question. It's a good argument.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Chief should be stripped.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, dude, talk.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that make very good points, boys, they should.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Be if Pat wins it, there's no goat conversation. He's
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: just entered. He's entered the chat.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because he I mean, it is super impressive.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: The team that we talked about all year along with
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: the that in the with the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs,
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: the way that they're playing right now in the playoffs
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: is like, uh, it's impressive.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's impressive. Who. I don't want to talk about.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Who because we have everybody knows, so I got it's not.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: If there's one team, right, we got the hats in
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: the shop.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Go support your favorite team for the Super Bowl. Here's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs one. I trust me, I hear Taylor. You
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: can hold the Chiefs one or Mitch can in the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: back if you.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: If there's one team that's going to beat the Chiefs,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: it's the forty nine ers.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: But they've got to play four quarters man because they
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: haven't done that in the playoffs.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: They haven't done it. And they can get thrown on.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: They can get ran on, get ran on.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And Pacheco runs like a madman.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Up. I just I posted it this morning, dude, George Kittle,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I will be back here. You will not get the
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: best of me. That to me, this is a redemption
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: of redemption story for George Kittle.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And they're playing the Chiefs who they lost to.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: A few years ago when they were up big.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: They kind of had them too.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did have them.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Fuck.
• 38:33
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  Speaker 3: you just tuning in, maybe you guys, are you heard
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: about this podcast and you jumped on this your first
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: time listening to an episode two sixty one. Mitch Carsley
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: has been in the fucking gutters lately. He's been absolute
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: trash at one of the few jobs he has. When
• 40:00
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  Speaker 4: I do have a question, maybe once have you talked
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: to your family about this? Like all the convos we've
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: given them directly, like have you done a recap with
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: your family based on your tribuna or based on your
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• 40:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they haven't well, Like I said, my dad And
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: I called my dad the other day and he's like
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: did he He answered, well, he actually called me so,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: but he was like, you're like you're good though, right,
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: Like they're not actually gonna do anything with Like you're
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  Speaker 2: Like, no, I'm good.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Oh where's your first mistake?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I was like, I might lose phrase JP, boys love
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  Speaker 4: you don't ever trust this.
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: So actually I might be might we do love your dad,
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: but we do love you. My mom sent me an
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: email of like two hundred and sixty questions that she
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: just copy pasted from the internet.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: She's texted me as shit tone.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Your mom understanding the work that goes into something like
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  Speaker 4: this and basically doing it for you.
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: No, and you can figure that those questions that she
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: sent me I have seen before, and there's a reason
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: I haven't asked any of them because I felt like
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: they were not good.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: But I appreciate the help.
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  Speaker 2: Mom.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you're not using one of your moms.
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: I am not using one of my moms. I am
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: actually using one from my college roommate.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, once again, not a Mitch Carsley product.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay.
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  Speaker 4: He's turned over every stern stone to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: So fair enough?
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  Speaker 3: That's you tell me you you're the If you want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about other things that you're dropping the ball on,
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  Speaker 3: we can talk about We were supposed to get a
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  Speaker 3: dirt by We went to Supercross in the summertime and
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• 42:24
  Speaker 1: We go to Supercross.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: We go to Supercross because Mitch loves super.
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  Speaker 1: C Mitch love supercross, and he brought that idea. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: So we have a couple of supercross guys on there.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: They're outstanding, they're a fun time. We go to it.
• 42:35
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  Speaker 3: your boy grew up with the dirty I was into that.
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  Speaker 3: Broke broke my foot, broke my hand, but my wrist broke,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: put my wrist one time, broke a collar bone. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: had twenty seven broken bones. Not I'm a big tough guy,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Mitch was put on the assignment. Do what Mitch.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know if I was putting on the motorcycle.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: You were putting. You were a put in position. We said, hey, Mitch,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: you handle this. You have the contacts at motocross, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: have the contact talk to them and get this thing done. Hey,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: it's going to be here in August. Hey, it'll be
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: here by December. Hey, it might be here before Christmas.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Get excited to there. Need you to sign this waiver.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Waiver signed. It is now January twenty nine, and while
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: you're watching this, it's the thirtieth and I promise you
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: tomorrow a fucking dirtbike will not be here. So it's
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: January thirtieth and we still don't have that. That being said, Mitch,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: what's your twisted question of the week?
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: All right, switch the question of this week. This one
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: comes from my college roommate, Mike Dietrick. Would you rather
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: suck a dick on live television or have your leg
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: amputated from the hip down?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: It's a good question. Well who you who gave it
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: to you?
• 43:59
  Speaker 7: My college roommate, Mike Didrick.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, shut Mike Didrick, shut up, Mike Ddrick, dude, great question,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Mike. If you're looking Mitch's job, If you're
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: looking for a job, Mike and you know how to produce,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: hit us up, dude. I don't know if you guys
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: were in the same thing at school, at Saskatoon.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Or wherever it was, m Saskatoon.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: You suck a dick on live television, cable.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Live television stream. This is national millions, the most viewed
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: thing the entire decade. Start to finish, Start to finish
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: or get your leg amputated from the head and the
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: hip down. I know my answer, You know your answer.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Gag me, dude, really yeah, take my leg really? Yes?
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Why cause now I'm in a position to write a book,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: be a hero, get one of those cool little tink
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: tink legs put on my and then now I'm in
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: the special Olympics winning the four hundred meters, whipping the
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: hundred meter just absolutely, You're just.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Going to show up and beat these dudes.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it? Oh, the Paralympic's my fault. I
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: might be in both, Dude, I might be the first
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: person to be a dual Olympic guy like that.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: You don't think I'll be able to write a book
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and capitalize on sucking dick.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: You could, but you'd be like the rest of them.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but everybody's like yo, Will had to do what
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: he had to do to save his leg.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, Like some people would
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: they just take that jobs. It's like fifty just the
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: books called fifteen minutes. Yeah, yeah, how I got myself
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: in this position and how I choked myself out to
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: get out?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, like I didn't ready to make a movie
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: about it. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: it's what you're down. You spend five minutes saving your
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: own life basically.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh bro, we all know, dude, probably's.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Probably a couple. Yeah, I mean, you know, come on,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: we don't. We don't got to be tough. Every guy
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: knows that we could, we.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: Could do it or really turned off to what you're
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: saying right now, go ahead, explain just these people are a.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Little dudes know that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Like everybody's like, yo, you think you can have to
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: do a better blow job than your other And it's like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: well yeah, because we know exactly what we.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Want, exactly exactly what you want because you don't have
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: to go that deep. Yeah, just hit the tip, get
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: after that thing pretty hard fast.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: That a glug glug nine thousand.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Just letting you know might change my answer.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Now, So I'm saying they'll be getting that year ten
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: Come on, what does that mean? They'll get the year
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: ten treatment. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what we'll coin it.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: After the job is done.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: They'll almost finish, but then they won't. The glug glug
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: nine thousands. No, no, bro, you don't think I'm getting
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: that thing that completes it. I'm just trying. But you
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: didn't give them your nine.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: No, but I'm saying the glog five everybody how everybody
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: talks about the glug luck nine thousand. It would now
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: be coined the year ten.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I got you. I see what you're saying. Yeah,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: no disrespect, no disrespect. I don't want to Yeah.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Oh now I see what you were saying. Almost if
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I can't finish, I see what you're saying. You motherfucker.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: That's my bad, my bad. Good question to your end,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that was great. I might change my answer.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing?
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: Head, I'm getting my leg amputating because just think, just
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: think the technology and prosthetics nowadays, you damn near have
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: another leg. No, I'm still like.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: There's not like a robotic leg.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Also, when you lose a leg, especially something that takes
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: up probably twenty to twenty five percent of your body,
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: your life expectancy drops significantly.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I love that data. Great point for that argument.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: To live, to live, to live a fruitful life.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, suck to live dude twenty four.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: I said, it's like fifteen minutes or it's you struggling
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: to walk around for the rest of your life.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Not struggling. You might not be struggling and it's up
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: to your hips.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: So an as cheek is gone, oh yeah, but it's
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: also like you you gotta think.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, but also.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Some cleaner to wipe some of the ship off of the.
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: But no, I'm saying like if you're if you do
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: it on live television, that is that is going all
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: over the social media, that is going all over everything,
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: like your your kids will see that. You're gonna be
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: seen like, oh you were the guy that sucked the
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: dude off on live televiitch.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: It'll be so much like yeah, that'll happen momentarily, But
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: that twisted question right there will be the most iconic
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: twisted question of all time because it won't even gonna
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: be about you anymore. It'll be everybody else saying this
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: guy had did what he had to do, and then
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: everybody just arguing about it, making it about their own selves,
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I'll just be sitting
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: back like, hey, I fucking I did what I had
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Save your leg. The life expectancy thing does sway me
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: a little bit, but I got this knee pain right here.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking if you take the leg, if you take
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: the leg, no.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: More knee pain than back with no legs full ill.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Did you guys know he's been around a little bit lately.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: He's been around me even hurting a little bit. He's
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: been up here and they we won't get into it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: So oh god, Jerry Ainsworth, Jerry aans Worth, bro.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, take my leg.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Good question, good question should.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: We get into. I mean we're looking at a three
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: and a half hour podcast now, boys, I do.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Believe that we have like uh yeah, we.
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  Speaker 3: with match cool on my list here.
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Mine was an experience had last night after the forty
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: nine Ers Lions game. But it is when and this
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: is a lost art because cable television is less and
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: less and streaming is king now, But it's when you
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: tune into a movie that just started on cable that's
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: a good one.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: And it was The Day after Tomorrow if you remember
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: that with Jake Jillian Hall.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: No, it's what's his name, the guy who's in parent
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Trap who's the dad and Jake Killenhall. But it's like
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: this huge like geostorm type scenario comes, but not about
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: the movie.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: But it's just when you tune in.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: It's like the first five minutes of a movie, you're like, okay,
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I can trap in. Then I also forgot how awful
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: commercials are on cable TV, like every twelve minutes. Just yes,
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: but that is my shout out, every shout out.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: What's the that's a great movie. What's the movie? I
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: was gonna say, Tom Cruise, he wakes up every day
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: after he's killed. This impossible? Oh I know you're talking
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: about with that. With that, Yes, it's a great movie
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: from Quiet Place a bunch. Oh yeah, yeah, we can
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: just google it right.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But it's more funny.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is more fun to play this game. It's like, uh,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: it's a newer one too, Like yeah, it's really good,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: like years.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's like alien.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, might as well.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: What is it JP as of tomorrow. I wouldn't have
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: got that. I wouldn't have got that. But that's a
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: great movie. I think people still sleep on Tom Cruise.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: You think so.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I think they do because of scientology stuff. People still
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: sleep on them. So he's such an elite actor, he's
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: so good. Scientology thing makes people talk about him even more,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I know. But I feel like because they talk about
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: the scientology thing, it takes away from the how good
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: of an actor he is to some people. Like people
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: don't want to give him as much flowers because they
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: think there's a cookiness that comes along with Tom Cruise.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: There's got to be a cookiness.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: You're that's got to be a little mental.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: You gotta be a little a little off the rocker.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: I think it would be so much fun to be
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: able to do one of those roles. They a cool role,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: you know, not like a broke back Mountain roll, but
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: like a cool like you know, mission impossible type thing. Yeah,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: you know, three hundred Yeah, that'd be sick, Mitch, what
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: with your shout out my shout?
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: I don't know if your shadow goes to the flyovers
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: in football pre game those like especially when you're at
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: the game, like when I think when we were at
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: Notre Dame or whatever, it was just like that just
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: is automatic goosebumps, no matter what. And it doesn't even
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: have to be a sick plane. It's just a plane
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: flying over a stadium. There's like, there's nothing more America.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be like a little small one seventy
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: two ripping by, but you know what the intent is there.
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And like the stealth bomber going over the Rose
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: Bowl like that was insane in.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: The Chiefs game yesterday, Like the best part rise to
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: go over the same commercial?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: What terrorist?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: It's the world we live in now? Jack, You got JP.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Mine goes to.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: Good icebreaker games when you're with all new people. We
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: were in this situation last night. It was a great game.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: It was everybody was in a circle.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Two people are lined up face to face, and on
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: the count of three, they both say the first word
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: that comes to their mind. So say, we'll say one,
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: two three. I say taco, You say football. I have
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: to turn to my person. Now I'm with Mitch. We
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: can't say those two words. We have to think of
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: a word. What word comes to our head when we.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Hear football in taco?
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: Three two one?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tailgate.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: So that's exactly what happened last night, me and Sit
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: and hit it. But it was just like a great
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: We were in a room of people we didn't know
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: and the ice precker just brought everyone together.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: And that's old game. Yeah, it's a good one.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: You never heard of that, that's all. That's awesome. Yeah, Yeah,
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: we were I know who I am. That's a great game.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: But I had a similar situation like that at the
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Chandler's house for New Year's They had a bunch of
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: people over. We didn't know anybody. We knew a couple
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: of people, but we ended up playing where we'll for
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: legit two hours, and I was like the guy obviously
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: doing eight because there's like me and Taylor who knew
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: the game really well. And that really opened it up
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: for everybody. Yeah, they got that kind of nervous you'd
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: only do so many Hey where you're from, how many
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: kids you got? What do you do for a job
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: conversations before you're like, let me just move on. Go
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: sit in the bathroom for ten minutes on my phone.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go take a ship.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, my shoutow, no free shout out is going to
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: be throwing the dad head ahead. My shoutow, no free.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Shout out is when the new dad's out there rep
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: our hats or rep our merch and they post about
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: it when they have a kid on social media, tagging.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Us and everything else. That's not me trying to farm.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: People continue to do it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: But he does fire me up that people like he
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: just became a new dad and then they're like wrapping
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: a hat that either their wife got him or whatever.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: They're sitting there holding their newborn dad juices the boy up.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: So that's my shout out, no free shoutout, and go
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: buy her dad merchant.
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: There's a bunch of new dads at the gym I
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: go to, and I guess it's Garrett. He's just like
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: spreading the good word. And so many guys have dad
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: hats and it fires me up.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: It's like damn, it's like dude.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So like women, anybody that are seeing me, like where
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: this girl dad hat around?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: That?
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Just compliment like hey, I love that hat, Like where'd
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you get from? Like all the barcelol barstol store, barcel store.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who's the girl dad. Sean Moore, head
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: coach at the University of Michigan. Oh yeah, got a
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: couple headed his way right now, no ship, Oh yeah,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: oh yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: We got to start getting all the dads that come
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: on the but I know we've talked about it. Yeah,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: the dads who come on the bus, we get them
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: to We get them some gear right when they're here,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: maybe even get a little dad story out of them.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: We need to just have a dad segment, yes, just
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: really dive in, like a therapy dad session. Well we'll
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: brainstorm in there.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if you want to vent about your child, if
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: you want to give a shit. Positive doesn't always have
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: to be positive that whatever we want.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: It to be because you know, if you're expressing something
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: that bothers you, there's a bunch of other dads out
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: there feeling the same way. And when they don't feel alone,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: you don't feel alone. And that's how you build community.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: In fatherhood is the highest of highs and lowest of low's.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: We all got to be together.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Speaking of community, my school needs to figure out the
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: wave again. They've really dropped the ball. They went really
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: strong after my couple of weeks of doing the wave
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: and putting on Instagram, They've they've dropped the ball on
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: waving back. It went really good for a while, but
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: now I got dudes in trucks not waving back. And
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I just feel like, if you're going to have a
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: pickup truck, if you're going to own a Shevvy Silverado,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: you've got to know and be aware when the wave
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: is coming in and give it back. It has to
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: be reciprocated. There's a different standard when you're driving a
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: pickup truck. So then we just say that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: You're trying to make the wave a thing.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just not trying to make anything. I'm trying to
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: bring it back. I'm trying to bring back community and
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: that goes into my shadow of free shoutout similar to
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: the boat wave my shoutout, no free shodow is America?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's a cut. Yes, I've been watching that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Literally.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: I caught myself on YouTube tailoring and hit me out
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: the other day because Tale likes to dive into the
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: news and all the scariest respect because someone's got too
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna Apparently there's a whole bunch of
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: people going out of Texas and there's like a civil
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: war on the horizon. We're talking about WW three and
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: all that. Somewhere along the lines of our childhood, we
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: decided that it's not cool to love America. It's like
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: no longer a cool thing to do. And I found
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: myself on YouTube watching highlight videos, the good video different
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: sort of military videos of why people are fighting for
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: the freedoms.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: That we have.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Now, this is not a proud boy situation. It's just
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: me saying we need to regardless of what country you
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: are born in, there needs to be a sense of
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: pride and patriotism, whether you're from Canada, Mexico, Spain, America
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: of I was born here and we might have our
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: flaws goddamn it. I love where I'm from, and these
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: are the reasons why I love it. You don't get
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: in a relationship. You know, Charles got problems. I know
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Taylor's got a couple of things she's got to work on.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I still love her to death. I'm still in a
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: happy marriage. That type of thing. So I'm just saying,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: shout out America, dude, shout at America.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good fandom for America.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one way is there?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Really? Like talks to civil war and she.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Like that allegedly.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Now you know me.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Taylor hit me up with like, hey, what'll we do
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: in a crisis? Like what if we get invaded? I'm like, oh,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: we're the extras of the movie that get ended, Like
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: what are the people running?
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: As blows us up?
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I think that might have been Tailor
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and Taylor.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I got that algorithm going on right now. Yeah, yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: electioneer coming.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: People start getting that algorithm because I saw the tweet
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: talking about the civil war, War War three and I'm
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: just thinking, like.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: What.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Said that? I legit?
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: I send her a video after video. She's on the plane.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: She went to Canada this weekend and I just sent
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: her a bunch of videos of just why we don't
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: have free health care and why, like you're gonna find
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: out why you're gonna find out if you fuck with America.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: And she thinks it's so lame because like obviously from Canada,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: and she's like, you guys just think you're so tough.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: It's like, fucking try us then, because we'll fucking end it, dude,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: And so shout out America. Man, don't actually try us
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: because I would hate that.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: But if you do, we start talking about the ste
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Finer episode.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Kick it off to Stewie. This is a long podcast.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I appreciate shout out everybody who's stuck with this through
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: every minute this episode. You were going to love from
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Sue Finer arguably one of the greatest hustlers of our generation.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: You could also argue maybe connordists of our generation as well.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: He dabbles in bows. You can make your own decision.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: This is an incredible story, Stu. We were blessed to
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: have him on the bus. He told everything. I do
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: feel like he covered everything from start to finish. There's
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: definitely a lot of gaps he can probably fill in
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: that we had questions on at the end, did he
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: kill somebody? Yeah, But at the end of the day,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: this is two hours and forty five minutes of Stu
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: Feirener sharing his story and being an incredible storyteller.
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  Speaker 1: Where to Next this Do Finder episode.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I believe Mitch the producer just told us.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: We are rolling.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: We are Stu.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Find Welcome to bust with the boys.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Glad to have you, dude, Glad to have this.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: It's a pleasure.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: This is a very special treat because you are a
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: very unique individual coming into the barstool world. Getting to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: know you from the outside looking in, you have a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: couple of bumps where you know this stuff with the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: with women and stuff like that, or you're getting to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: know Stu and you're like, yo, who is this fucking
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: whack job a little bit.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: In the very beginning.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: Then you get to know Stu and you see how
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: how much you always show your appreciation and gratitude, which
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: is very real and authentic you. It's like you learn
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: that in per and the way you just embrace, throw compliments,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: do all the things to where you're just like, oh,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Sture's like a fucking awesome, awesome dude. He's just got
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: a little he's got a couple of screws loose every
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: now morning. But this dude, correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: But two for the money.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: The movie, which we'll get into loosely based around your
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: come up in the sports gambling world.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: It wasn't even loosely. I mean the movie does not
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: exist without me. You know, I'm the star of the movie.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you watch that movie, it's all about me.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: It's a disgruntled employee standpoint on him working for me.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: That's the movie. So without me, there is no movie.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Which character are you?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Al Patina?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're al Patina?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Who Who're you start? You want to start from the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: very beginning of my life? You want to go right
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: into this?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Do you want to jump?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Because I have not seen the movie, I'm gonna watch
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: it as soon as this show's movie. I'm gonna watch
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: it tonight.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I like to go.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I like to go.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Let's start.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Early.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Grew up in Long Island, No So.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Brooklyn twenty six sixty two West
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Second Street, in a sixth story apartment building that Fred
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Trump owned, Donald Trump's father and my father. Oddly enough,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Fred was friends with Fred Trump. My father certain times
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: had trouble paying the rent and Fred Wouldlndb's side. So
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: my father had a relationship with Fred Trump when I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: was a little boy and quite interesting. And to live
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: in a sixth story apartment building in Brooklyn was quite interesting.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It was only me and my brother and predominantly Jewish,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: all Jewish, so my friends were Jewish. Well. The school
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I went to was PS two sixteen in Brooklyn, all Jewish.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I was born in Mamamide's Hospital and it was a
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: very interesting, tight knit family group. You know, on the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: sixth floor, you knew everybody trick or treating you trick
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: or treated the sixth floor, then the fifth floor, then
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: the fourth floor, then the third floor. You stayed in
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: your apartment building. Outside of the apartment building would be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: where all the parents hung out just on lounge chairs
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: during the summer and everybody just played on the grass,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: played tackle football, played whiffletball, played kickball. So that was
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: my upbringing in Brooklyn. We were there until March of
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: fourth grade and then we left there and moved to
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Long Island, Farmingdale, Long Island. Really my house was in
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: North Massapequa. We moved into the Viceroy Homes. It was
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: a four hundred and twenty five home area where there
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: was one way in and one way out. And I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: have a lot of scars on me from Brooklyn. My
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: father loved me, loved my brother, loved my mother, no
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: issue about that, but was a Rachel Hollock, very physical
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: physical with me and my brother, physical with my mother.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: And I think that really that made me extremely insecure
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and not trusting inherently anyone because I was, let's see,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: ten years old, nine years old, eight years old, and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I remember my mother screaming in the bedroom. Stewie, call
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: the cops. Your father's hitting me. Meanwhile, I'm fucking nine
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: years old. You know, what are you supposed to do?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: And in those days, so now what do we talk?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I was born in sixty one, so this was probably
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: right around with the Mets one of the world. There
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: was sixty nine sixty eight right around there. And obviously,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: as a young child, you know, you're taught to say nothing.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: You know, you're taught. You know, I was taught at
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: least if things are rough, things are bad, you don't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: say anything. You know, what happens in the house stays
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: in the house. But as I went to therapy when
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I was much older, you know, they taught me that
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: that you know is very abusive and very inappropriate, And
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: it wasn't appropriate for your father to be physical with
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: you and your brother, and for that matter physical but
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: your mother and keeping all that stuff in correct, like
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: you couldn't really like you couldn't, you know, then it
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: wasn't There was no issue to to tell the teacher,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: or to tell anyone for that matter. So we moved
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: to North massa speaker and the first day there was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: a total fucking horror show. Like to this moment, I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: remember it and I feel it like it happened five
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: seconds ago, especially when I talk about it. So father
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: goes to work. It's the first time we own our house.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: We're on like an eighty by one hundred piece of
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: property and a nice house, very nice. We go to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: what's called the Dairy Bond, me, my brother, my mother.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: It was a free standing building and they used to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: sell milk in these glass bottles and iced tea in
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the glass bottles. And also it was almost like a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: very small seven to eleven. You drove in. It was
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: a drive through. You got your stuff donuts, bread, milk,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: iced tea, butter, the essentials. We got back to the
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: house and in the driveway is written the word kike
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: in crab apples, and there's like ten kids opposite my
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: house hiding in the bushes. And first of all, I
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: have no idea what that word needs. My mother sure
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: as fuck does, because she immediately starts crying. So me
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: and my brother are now like what's going on? And
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: then she's like hustling us up to the front door
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: so that we can get in the house. So we
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: don't see what it is. She puts the glass milk
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: down and the glass iced tea down, and in our gutter,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: right in front of the screen door that you have
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: to open to get into the regular door, there's an
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: umbrella hanging there. She opens the screen door and crab
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: apples and rocks come down and smash the ice tees
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: and the milk shouted the bottles. So now me and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: my brother are crying because you know, there's a whole
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: to do. She runs in the house calls my father.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: My father flies home from New York City. He had
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: a place on thirty seventh between seventh and eighth at
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: the time. He worked for a place called Letterama. They
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: made letters and signs, and they had a couple of
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: major accounts. They had Masters Square Garden in HBO, and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: they had a Chase Bank, and they had a couple
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: of other banks that they made every sign for. So
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: every sign at HBO, every sign at Master's Square Garden,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: this company did. And I would go into work with
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: my father and help him, and so on and so forth.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: When I was young, took the train in hold to do.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: My father comes flying home and he's steaming right now.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: And as a kid, me and my brother knew that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: the signals that my father was gonna either hit us,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: or hit my mother or just trash the fucking house
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: was that he would bite down on his lip, and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: you know that was a sign. So and the minute
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: he bit down on his lip, like me and my
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: brother would run into our room in Brooklyn, we had
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: the same room, two beds. In this new house in
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: North Massapeico, we had separate rooms. We'd hide literally in
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the closets under the bed because we knew we were
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: gonna get a fucking beating. So he comes home and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: he's like screaming at my mother as if she did something.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: What happened? Tell me what happened? What happened? She tells them,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: And then he drags me and my brother like like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: a cartoon movie by the back, like like we were cubs,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: and he was like a bear holding us. We went
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: to every single door across the street down our block,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: which was Abbott Street, and then we were surrounded by
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: East Drive and West Drive all these things, and he
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: just started screaming at the parents, saying who did this?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: And of course, now the parents are not confrontational at all.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: They're very you know, like apologetic and So that was
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: March or fourth grade. So obviously, now we're hated in
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the fucking neighborhood, me and my brother a because we're Jews.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: There was no Jews in the fucking neighborhood. I'm talking zero,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: almost like the movies, like you know, christ Killers, you
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: know Caikes, you know dirty Jews, so on and so forth.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: My father explained to us what that word means, and
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: all the kids got punished. So now we're got to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: walk the fucking bus stop. And we were like shunned,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: me and my brother for good fourth grade, fifth grade,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: into the summer of sixth grade, where we hung out
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: with just a very small contingent of Jews and other
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: kids that didn't live in Viceroy that heard what happened
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: but felt bad for us. So we were like short,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: little chubby kids and uh, non athletic at the time.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: So I figured out people pleasing and being nice to people,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: and overly nice would at least get my foot in
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: the door so that people wouldn't piss on me and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: call me a cake and call me a Jew and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: just you know whatever. And in Viceroy in North Massapeakra
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: so we're talking nineteen seventy. There was cliques. There was
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: the little mafia L and M boys where their fathers
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: were in the mafia. Paul Castellano, who was depicted as
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Don Carleone in the movie The Godfather, lived in Massapequa.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: He lived on the water in Massapequa. So every bar
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: there was like little social clubs, Italian social clubs, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: it was a little mafia. Then you had the freaks.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Then you had the kids that were long hair, smoking
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: pot hanging out. Then you had the jocks, and then
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: you had the nerds and the geeks, which were the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: smart kids. They were called at the time of word
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: we do not use anymore, like faggots. We don't use
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: that word. Had nothing to do with sexual preference at all,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: nothing it had to do it. They were smart, they
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: were geeks. They were not like us. They weren't they
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: weren't little L and m's, they weren't jocks, you know,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: and they weren't freaks. They were you know, smarties. So
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: there was clicks, very clicky clicks, and everybody was white.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: There was not really prominently any blacks or any Spanish
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: or any other authenticities. Then. So finally in seventh grade,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: I was watching something on TV. But I had these
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: bodybuilders and I used to get the bodybuilding magazines, and
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I made my father buy me these sand weights. They
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: used to be plastic weights and they were filled with sand.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: So he got me a bench and he got me
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: these sand weights, and I just went to work. You know.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: I went to work, and in seventh grade, from sixth
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: grade to seventh grade, I grew. I went from like
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: four ten to five five. I'm the exact same size
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: right now that I was in seventh grade. So I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: started working out with the weights, and I wanted to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: be cool. So I went to the flea market and
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: you also had the leather jacket group, and those were
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: the coolest group, I thought, because they looked fucking cool
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: in the leather jackets, and they were tough guys.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Say had John Travolta from Greece, kind of literally literally.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: So I got a let the jacket, went into school
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: that Monday, and got my fucking teeth kicked in. I
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: got put headfirst into the fucking lockers, kicked in the balls,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: beat the fuck out of They're like, listen, you fucking kike,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: you you you ain't wearing a fucking leather you ain't
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: wearing this black leather jacket ever. I see this wearing again,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: and you're a fucking dead man. So of course, the
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: next day, I fucking never wore the leather jacket again.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: I went back to the flea market and I exchanged
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: it for a bomber jacket, which was still very cool,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: but getting my ass kicked by the So when we
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: went to school, it was still seventh eighth, ninth grade,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: ninth grade was still in the junior high school. Wasn't
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: in the high school now it's you know now it
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: is it's nineth ten to eleven, twelfth. Then it wasn't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: her seventheighth ninth getting my ass kicked in. You know,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: in my mind, you had a lot of time to think,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: think about it. And I when when the teachers came,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: and when the uh dean came, and when the principal came,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: and when the person who runs detention came. I didn't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: rat no one out. You know, they were like, who
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: did this to you? Show me who did you know?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Like it was show me who did this? You know,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I want to know who did this? And I just
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: shut my fucking mouth because I knew enough from watching
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: movies that my father watched that. You know, like you
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: just don't rat out on people. It was never told
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: to me not to, but you know, I knew how
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: bad I got my ass kicked in, and I figured,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: God forbid if I rated these people out, what would happen?
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: So shut my mouth, woll my bomber jacket. And then
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: probably middle of seventh grade, I started boxing. And in
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: this the area it was called Alan Park, they had
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: a little boxing ring and some guy would come down
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and teach you how to box. And I was super good.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I was great. I would super fast, I was able
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: to get hit in the face not get hurt, and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I was able to punish people. And my father loved boxing.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: My father. I didn't watch college football until I was
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: probably seventeen years old. There was no college football in
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: the house. There was NFL football, and it was a religion.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: On Sunday we did we On Saturday, we did the leaves,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: We cleaned up the outside of the house, we cleaned
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: up the inside of the house, got all the chores
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: outed away. So my father worked Monday through Friday, and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: then on Sunday we watched football. And my father was
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: an Oakland Raider fan and a Minnesota Viking fin. I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: became a Raider fan, my brother became a Viking fan.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: And football being violent at the time, really the object
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: of football was you literally knocked out the best player
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: on the other team by any means. Clothesline, dirty hit
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: after the whistle hit didn't fucking matter. So in my head,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: that's how I thought life was that, you know. So
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: seventh grade and eighth grade gave me a hard time,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: and he was pushing me, and he was pushing me,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: and then one shot I knocked the fucking kid. Alcohol
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: knocked him out fucking cold. I hit him one shot
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: and he was on the fucking unconscious, and I just
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: walked the fuck away. And then his brothers that were
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: in ninth grade came after me. And I literally must
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: have had a hundred fights in seventh grade with the
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: eighth greatest and the ninth gradest, and I held my
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: own against every fucking one of them, and as they
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: chose you out, how crazy it was, I only got respect.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Then I didn't wrap them out that I could held
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: my own. So now all of a sudden, I was
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: making a name for myself. Where if you were going
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: to fucking fight with this fucking guy, you better jump
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: him or you better fucking hit him cheap. So in
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood, the people still didn't weren't coming to my house,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: weren't hanging out with me. They were jocks, they were
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: excellent athletes. They were at a very young age stars.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Whether it was the pl or it was flag football,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: whatever it was. They would hang out like maybe four
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: houses away from me for ten kids with a basketball
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: playing that they wouldn't fucking talk to me. And then
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: one day one of them came over to me and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: just giving me a hard time for no reason. And
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: this kid was known for wearing steel tip boots, so
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: nineteen this is now nineteen seventy three, and somehow he
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: picked a fight with me, and I was crush this kid,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: but he kicked me, first time I've ever seen someone
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: kick in my life, like almost like a Bruce Lee movie.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: He kicked me in my fucking hand and like broke
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: one of my fingers. So then I just jumped them
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and started biting them and like poking them in the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: fucking eye like it was fake wrestling, because she used
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: to watch that fake wrestling, you know. Bruno San Mantino,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Andre the giant, you know back then, and two of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: his friends jumped on me, and at that moment, I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: just went psycho. I fucking held my own against all
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: three of them. And after that moment, everybody in the
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: neighborhood loved me. Everybody in the fucking neighborhood loved me.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: So that's really how I made my bones as stew finder.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Like I was a superstar in the neighbor like so
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: much so that that fight was on let's say a Saturday.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: I went into school one day, my first period. Everybody
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: clapped when I walked in.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Did you end to putt on the leather jacket again?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Never, No, couldn't do it.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: No. I just it was you know, it was one
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: of those things where I, you know, I just didn't
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: need it after that, you know, I wanted to do
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: it to be accepted, and then it just wasn't. And
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: then I looked at these leather jacket because like, they
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: were fucking punks. Be honest with you, they were punks.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Were you somebody looking for fights? More like once you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: took on boxing and then realized you could people's ass seventh.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: Or eighth grade, I beat the fuck out of so
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: many people headfirst into lockers, be senseless after school, you know,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: we meet at this time, be a circle crowd like
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: a movie. It was literally like I was like, let's say,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: if I had one hundred and fourteen fights, I was
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: like one hundred wins fourteen losses. You know, but I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: want to explain. Then when you fought, you would literally
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: say to the person you had enough, give and the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: person would say give and you get up. It wasn't
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: like these things in the late seventies where I wasn't
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: in Long Island where he started carrying knives, started carrying bats.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: There was no rules. You beat the person until they
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: were unconscious. Everyone would jump on and kick them in
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: their face. And everything wasn't like that. It was like
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: a square fight. It was like once the person said
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: it's over, it's over. So that's really how it was.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: And I started getting in trouble in school, obviously in
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: my junior high school. Mister Valentine, he was the dean,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: this low life scumbag, piece of shit cockshaka. I hope
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: he died, and I hope it was violent. Like he
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: got hit by a car and labumpa caught his leg
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: and he was dragged with his face like skin because
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: this is what this piece of shit would do. You
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: would hear this, snow Vona, please come down to the
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Principal's all this So first time, I didn't know what
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: that meant. This guy legally would take a fucking wooden paddle,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: bend me over, hold my hands, and whack me on
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: my ass. Ten times that happened. That didn't stop until
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I was in eleventh grade and they stopped it in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: that school. So what are we talking nineteen seventy seven.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: That went on until do you remember the first time
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: we paddled you?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Fuck yes?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: What was that process like? When it was like, okay,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: bend over?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Were you just like what shit?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I went home to my father and my father said,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: what'd you do? No shit, That's how it used to be.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: That's how it used to be, you know, like authority
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: had all the power over children. Parents would just go
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: with the teachers. It was wild. It was so helpless,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: and so.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Did you deserve some of the paddle beatings at the
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: time in the seventies.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Never deserve a paddle beating from an adult, No, Never,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: Like when I got in trouble in high school, sitting
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: at detention every day. You have no breaks, you have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: no lunch, eat your lunch in there, and you'd go
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: every day and then after school you would go, fine,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: you have to write these ridiculous things.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: You know, you have Simpson on the on the chalkboard. Literally, yeah,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: just do work, just.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: To work, don't look around, don't talk to anybody.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Physical abuse, So, like I learned really quick. I asked
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: other people who were getting padles, what do you do?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Because it fucking hurt. My ass was fucking read as fuck.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: And uh, they said, have a pair of sweatpants in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: your hawker and minute they call your name, run to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: your locker, go to the bathroom, take your pants down,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: put your swimths pants under it, and put your vands
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: back on. It hurts less.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: So that teachers were allowed to paddle at this time,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: literally just for no like, hey, I'm ready to fucking
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: work public lin.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, so this is no holds bar about paddling. I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: think for whatever reason, I'm thinking about a nun with
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: a ruler on the knucklestoe.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Well they did it too, but no, there's a basic
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: public school. Really literally, it was surreal. It was teachers
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: were able to hit you in this class even up
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: until my school, probably eighth grade. They stopped eighth grade
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: physically if you were talking. I was always the class clown.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I was always telling jokes. I was always disruptive, So
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: the teachers would come over to me like behind and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: hit me in the head, like smack me similarly. You
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: see the movies. You know this is not you know,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: it's not uncommon, right, so much so that my son
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I have four sons, thirty four now thirty two, twenty eight,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: twenty four. My oldest UH was valedictorian and went to
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Brown and then got his master's in PhD at Buffalo.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: And before he went to Brown, he did something called
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Teach for America, where you'd go to the worst parts
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: of the country free. He was in Selma, Alabama, and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: he taught children. His class would be like seventy kids,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: predominantly black, twenty fucking desks, so fifty kids would sit
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: on the fucking floor, and they would threaten him and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: they would do all crazy stuff. I remember he kept
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: calling me, going, I gotta get out of here. This
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: is crazy. That the parents would come in and see
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: if my kid gets out a line, you could hit
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: him with the stick you can hit him with an
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: actual stick and that would calm them down. My son's like,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not hitting anybody who's crazy, and me quit. So
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was very prominent physical abuse by people
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: in authority to children. That was their way, that was
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: you know, and a lot of times that was the
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Southern way all the way up till so he graduated
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, so it was going on
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight. That's not that long ago.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: You know, hit him with a I think it was
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: called a twitch. It was like a long stick that
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: you would snap on the person.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: You'd have to be like smaller than with your thumb, right.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: I don't actually know what it was, but I know
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: that they wanted him to use it, and one of
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: the like So he was there like he lasted like
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: a month, and then he went to seven eleven to
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: get a coffee and one of the big students there
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: that was like bigger than him, threatened him and then
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: he said, Dad, I got to come home. So he
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: came home, and then he went to Brown So where
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I grew up. I felt a lot of abuse. I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: felt an outcast and for being a Jew, for not
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: being athletic for not being physical, and thank god I
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: had the ability with the weights. I taught myself how
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: to work out, how to fight, you know, and how
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: to protect myself calm. Ninth grade, it switched on me
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: because it was a big problem because I didn't grow.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: And now all these kids that I kicked their fucking ass,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: they're like double size of me. But I beat him
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: so bad in seventeenth grade that at least they memed
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: that so they didn't touch me. But I knew at
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: that point like I had to find another way. Watching
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: football with my father was a psycho experience because if
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: the Raiders, because I was always a rate of fan
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: with them, Opal Raiders seventy two, seventy three, seventy four,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: seventy five, fucking Steels kept eating us in fluke fashions,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: whether it was the Frank o'haris catch, whether it was
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: just Bradshaw being better than us, whether it was just
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: whatever it took the steel. When the Raiders lost on
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: a Sunday, he would like trash the fucking house and
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: beat me and my brother and my mother. Now, when
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: I say he wouldn't be punching my mother, he would
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: like grab her in our hands and like, just like
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: there no reason he would just be unhinged, as if
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: he bet hundreds or thousands of dollars on the games.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: But he never bet in his life. He was just
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: a rage aholic. He had that passion, he had that energy.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: And I think that's where I get it from. I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: get it from being a performer. I get it from
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: being a people pleaser, being wanting to be liked, going
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: out of my way to be nice to people a
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: because that's the right thing to do. Because I was taught,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I was shown my whole life how people are abusive
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: to people. People are not actually nice inherently. I think
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: it's because of the way they were raised, where their
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: parents were raised where, and it's just generational. They were abused,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: their grandparents abused them, their great grandparents agrees to parents,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: and it's like a chain. You know. That's why they say,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: you know when you got to therapy. I've been in
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: therapy since nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty four, and I
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: was taught this, and you know, they always taught me
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: that I have to let go of my father issues
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: for a man. I was taught you have to you
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: have to deal with your father issues. You have to
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: deal with what happened, and you have to let it go.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: You can't carry around that anger because it's your father.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: And that was very, very hard to do for me.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: You know, to this day, I love my father. I
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: take care of my father. My father's incontinent right now.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: So when he comes to my house, he shits in
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: his pants. It's a fucking mess in my house. No
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: one fucking helps me. I clean that fucking diaper. I
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: clean it up. I put a new fucking diaper on him.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: I clean the fucking mess. Let me go back to
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: watching football. So you know, part of me is like,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: you know, why are you doing this? You know, when
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: you were a little kid, he didn't fucking have your back. Really,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: So when we were watching the Raiders, I watch foot
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: well much differently than other kids down the street because
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I knew if the Raiders didn't win, or if the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings didn't win, which was four fucking Super Bowls,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: there was a fucking problem. It was a real fucking problem.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: So I watched the game. I watched every single play,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: I watched every nuance, I watched everything I m My
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: mother taught me similar to how the Oklahomy has played
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: similar how Pittsburgh Steel has played violence and violent defense
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: and running the ball win super Bowls. So I had that.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: It was almost like going to school for what I
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: eventually became, which was a sports advisor, picking games like
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: I was. Uh So when the Raiders run a super
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Bowl nineteen seventy six, it was John Madden's only Super Bowls,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Kenny stables only super Bowl, you know, Frip Litnikoff, that
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: whole team love Hubbard. I've never seen my father so happy,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: and my goal in life always was to make my
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: father happy. Because of my father's happy, then everybody's happy.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Here is no problems. My mother was the direct opposite.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: My mother was a saint. My mother was the nicest
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: person who met me in life. My mother loved everyone,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: taught me to love everybody unconditionally, taught me to help
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: the less fortunate, taught me to go out of my way.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: It's one of the main reasons I never saved money.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: I could have been a billion a billionaire. I was
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: making million dollars when I was fucking twenty three years old,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: and I was pissing away a million one because I
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: gave it all away. I had a big entourage, had
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: a big friend gathering, and I hung with them. I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: took them to super Bowls. I'd spend fifty thousand dollars
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: on Super Bowls. I went to eighteen Super Bowls. We'd
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: sit in fucking the best seats in the house, best restaurants.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: I picked up the fucking tab and I'd have parties
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: out of my house. And that would be my mother,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: great cook. So she taught me almost like food's love,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I remember when I
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: just said to my mother, I said, Mom, I don't
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: want to go to school tonight, even as a third
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: or fourth grader, fifth grader, sixth grader, would you say, no,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about it. Stay home and we'll play Canasta,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: and we'll play Gin Rummy and we'll play Rummy, and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: I'll make you cheese omelet in the morning, and I'll
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: make tuna fish for lunch, and then we'll have chicken
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: cutlets for dinner. And that would be my fucking day.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: And that's how I bonded with my mother over food.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: So in nineteen eighty, let's speed everything up. A man
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: came on Channel four, which was NBC, and his name
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: was Professor Picks.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: And how old are you at the time? Nineteen eight, okay,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen Professor Picks.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: He came on TV and he was an accountant that
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: created a short form tax form and he made a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: million dollars doing it, and he took the money and
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: put it into computers to pick football winners and stock analysis.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: And he proceeded to talk for fifteen minutes about how
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles Dick the Meal's team. Ron Jawaska was
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. They were the darlings of the fucking world.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, I don't know how they were.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: They were supposed to be a very clean team, did
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: the right thing. Dick the Meal was above the Fray,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: did it right. The Oakland Raiders were dirty and scum
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: and they had ex criminals work for them, and you know,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: they didn't give a fuck. They just wanted to win
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: at any cost. And he proceeded to tell me and
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: my father, never forget it, fifteen minutes how the Philadelphia
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Eagles were going to crush the Oakland Raiders were a
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: full point favorite at the time, so it's not like
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: he had, you know, some wild thought. Fucking odds makers
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: said it, and me and my father will watch in
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: this jerk off like fucking clueless moron, an expert, you know,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: explain how that's gonna happen. We said, there is no
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: way that's happening. No prayer in no world. And everybody
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: in my town, the fathers of the kids, also loved
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. Everybody was Eagles. Eagles. Radist killed them. We
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: knew the raiders were gonna kill them. We were high
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: five and me and my father, I said, pop, because
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: it's really weird. Because growing up Jewish, there was a
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: lot of pressure that my mother wanted to be a
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: doctor or a lay Those are my fucking choices, you know.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know why, but that's how it was. And
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: I said to my listen, I'm not really smart enough
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: to be adopted, and I don't have the patience to
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: be a lawyer. I can't study. I just can't do it.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I don't have the patience. I'm out I had. Add
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I had, but I just could
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: not study. If it came to me immediately, I could
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: do it. Science. I was great at math, I was
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: great at English. Sold studies in twelfth grade is probably
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: on a sixth grade level. I got on my SATs
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: in tenth grade. I got a five point fifty Math
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: three ninety English out of eight hundred and eight sixteen hundred.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Three ninety English is about as bad as you could be.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: It's almost illiterate. Five fifty is basically average for there.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: So that blew me going to any college. My mother
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: wanted me to go to the best college. You know,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: my mother pumped me up, so did my father that
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: They always pumped me up and my brother up. They
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: loved us. But it wasn't real, you know what I mean, like,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: keep it real. It's not real. It's one of those
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: parents that said you could do anything. That's I guess
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: you could, but I didn't and I wasn't. So I
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: said to my father, listen. Bottom line is I want
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: to go into this fucking business. If this jerk on
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: can be this wrong or this not being abusive, this
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: expert that got the time on NBC the Friday before
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl prime time, that spot costs gazillion dollars
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: because I can't even imagine, and you got it for free.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: If he could be so wrong, Let's go into the business.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Because my father always taught me defense, running violence, underdogs
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: whome advantage toward from my father, like nineteen seventy seven.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm sixteen years old. He's pounding into my head. Now.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Now gambling is legal now everybody, you know, you teach
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: your kid this. If you want to gamble, you would
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: teach your kids what I'm But then you know, there
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: was no kids gambling. It was only legal in Nevada.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: There was one hundred book makers on Long Island in
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: mass speak, in Farmido, in secret, all the towns, they're
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: all mafia. It was all mafia. It's the only book
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: makers at the time. Mafia, mafia, mafia. And they didn't
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: let kids bet. They didn't let little kids bet. They
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: didn't let kids who are under really twenty one bet.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: You could bet, but you'd have to post money up
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: and the limits then were very, very small. They wouldn't
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: let you get in trouble because they knew you can't pay.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: And then if you found the place that allowed you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: to have credit, you know, they knew you weren't. They
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: knew you couldn't pay if you got in trouble, or
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: certain players that had what's called a sheet where you
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: would work for the book maker, you would get the customers,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: and you would be almost called a half sheet. So
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of the losses during a week, that's your money.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: If the people won, you would run a negative. You
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: would run a negative until you got into the positive.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people took shots. They said, fucking
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: everybody could bet with me, and if you went bad,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: you just can't bet anymore until you pay. So that's
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: what they would do. So I said, I'm going into
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: this business. Now. The problem is this. When I went
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: into the business, I could not get a merchant number
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: to accept payment. Because when I went to a bank
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: and I said, listen, I'm gonna I have an expertise
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: picking winners on football games, they looked at me like
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: I had two heads. They said, okay, but if you
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: were living in Nevada, that's fine because it's linging on
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: the bottom. But it's not legal anywhere, so we're not
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: going to allow you to have a merchant number on
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: an illegal business. That's not happening. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: but I'm not the bookmaker. I'm not taking the bet.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: They're like, but where's the point of purchase. Customer doing
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: betting illegally, We're not letting it so how I used
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: how I got a merchant number, my first merchant number,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: because I had to say I was selling sports appower,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: and then I would able to charge the cart. The
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: second problem was nobody would allow you to advertise, nobody
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: unless you were specifically in the state of Nevada. So
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: then what I would have to do is I bought
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated customerless and we just randomly Me and this
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: guy that was twenty three years older than me. My
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: father let me fifteen hundred and he put fifteen hundred in.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: We had two desks together, maybe the size of this bus,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: with a bathroom, and we would just sit there on
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: the telephone and fucking call thousands of people a day. Hi,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: how you doing? Do you bet?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Hi?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: How you doing? Do you bet? And of course ninnercent
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: didn't bet. They're like, where'd you get my number from?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: And you get my number from? When you get you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: know the you know, it was like crazy, you know,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: And the good thing was that you couldn't block someone,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like if I had your
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: fucking number, I had your number, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: I'll call you three.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: In the final number.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: It's over, right, it's literally fucking over.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I give you my number, and you
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: won't he keeps. He sends me NBA pix literally every
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: fucking day.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you could run, but you can't hide.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: So then all of a sudden, I started seeing these
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: little one by one ads in newspapers. So then we
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: were doing so well picking, Like in the early eighties,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm talking I would hit eight out of ten every
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: fucking week. So remember now, all you had was a
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Saturday slate, a Sunday slate, no late Sunday game, and
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: the Monday. That's it. You had three days, and we
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: pound away for those three days, but against the grain,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: against the public, better defense, home teams, home underdogs, more
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: violent teams, cover and one outright. Also, when I picked
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: the winners, they would direct opposite of what everyone else picked.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: The public picked, the gamblers picked. So not only when
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: I won, I got your fucking attention, because like, let's
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: say I gave you the better team and they were
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: laying seven, they won, they were betting that without me.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: And in the eighties up until probably I would say
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two when ultro sports books just started, everybody
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: bet the favorites. Because when you bet a game. You
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: don't want to be uncomfortable. You don't want to be like,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: you don't want to be so nervous before the game
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: starts that you could get blown out. You want to
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: be on the comfortable side. You don't want to be uncomfortable.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: So my system was like fucking gold. It was absolutely gold.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: So I started running these little one by one ads
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: saying I know more than you call me. And the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: first name of my first company was Profit Line Sports
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: pro PHGT. And we had this like profit with like
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: a fucking wizard's hat and a computer at the time,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: like you know, like it was like, you know, it
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: was state of the art, and we had a good
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: artist and we put this little ad and my phone
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: rang off the fucking hook within three months. Within three months,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: we wrote a quarter of million dollars. First year in
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: Bizzy wrote one point three million, with our overhead being
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: sixty thousand plus our bloodswat and tears. We were fucking
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: off to the races. Yeah, we went from So I said,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: this bus the three thousand square feet in twelve months,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: I got forty people worker for me. Now now I'm
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: writing three million dollars twenty two years old fucking killing,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: absolutely killing. All of a sudden, I get a lawsuit
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: in the mail and it says that I'm being sued
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: because not one of my customers, but a gambler sued
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: everybody in Nevada that had a license. Because at the time,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: I went to lawyers and I said, I don't want
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: to be I don't want to go to jail because
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: the common theme of what I did is no matter
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: how I told or who I told, what I did
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: for a living, They're like, you're a book maker. I'm
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: not a book maker. I never took a bet in
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: my life, never ever, ever. I didn't want to go
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: to jail. Two things I never did was sell coke
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: and be a book maker because I could not stand
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: being in jail, Like I couldn't last a fucking day.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: You know. I saw those movies You drop the soap,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: some guy's gonna fuck up your ass. I would rather
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: kill myself. I'd rather die. I would not you know,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: not happening. And those are the main things that I
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: figured to go to jail for not doing. So we
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: had to get a license in Nevada at the time
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: to sell pecks. Okay, this guy loses like four hundred
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Gambling was never one of my customers. But
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: he gets a lawyer ensues every person that has a
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: license in Nevada. He killed his wife to get the
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: insurance money game.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: No shit, So now he caught, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, this.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: Was his defense. He killed her, he got the money
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: because then, like then, the insurance company's paid immediately. Scams
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: used to work like that in these seventies, in the eighties. Now,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: of course not. Now, they fucking investigate, They don't give
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: you a dollar, They wait you out. You know, there's
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: no time frame in the money. You know, they'll wait
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: you out to make sure it's not fraudulent. Then, you know,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: scams will run every fucking day like this, whatever is
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: fires whatever. You know, you know you got paid by
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: the insurance companies. The scam were able to beat them
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: senseless for you know, good sixties, seventies, eighties, maybe going
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: back to the fifties anyway, So I guess this fucking lawyer.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: Lawyer says, well, you're gonna have to go to Nevada.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: I go, I'm never going to Nevada where you got
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: to testify. I never testified. Find out how much money
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: it's going to cost to settle, So ninety people paid
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: the guy seven thousand to just settle. I did nothing wrong.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with anything at the pay
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: seven grand. But at the time I had a lucrative business.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: Fuck it, let's go. Then I caught a major, major
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: break because ESPN in nineteen eighty four all of a
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: sudden allowed me to advertise. So they had a they
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: had like a TV guide of everything that was on
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: HBO and all the major channels, and I was able
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: to buy the inside front cover for profit line.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Sports of the TV guide, like the TV guide.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: Yes to me, like forty thousand dollars. I wrote like
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: a million six off of it. Then they then they
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: said in March of nineteen eighty four, you could run
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: national commercials a thirty second commercial. I had to make
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: story boards and pitch it to these fucking executives. It
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: was fucking amazy. It was like great, I bought a
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: suit and I looked like a shlub because you know,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I was like a giant fact. I was like two
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty pounds at the time, so no matter
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: what I wanted and look good. So I walked in there,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: but I could sell, and I could pitch, and I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: was not afraid of anything. I was not afraid of failing.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: I was not afraid of no. Your job started when
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: the customer said no. In tenth grade, I worked for
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: a place that sold unsold airtime for radio stations. Radio
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: stations had so much airtime they needed someone to fill it.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: So my boss taught me how to sell. Just randomly
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: make shit up and set and I was able to sell,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: so I knew how to sell. Then I sold. In
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: eleventh grade, I sold maintenance chemicals, office supplies, and we'd
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: call these people that needed like cowmnua and you know
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: older granules and you know fertilizer, and I knew how
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: to sell and that skill set, you know, he taught me.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: Your job starts when the customer says no, and then
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: your job starts when the customer says, never call me again.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: It hangs up on you. You call the guy right
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: fucking back on redial, and you go listen to you, motherfucker.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the fuck you are, but you
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: better give me fucking respect, because I come down to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: your fucking door and smash your fucking face and piece
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: of shit, and guy'd be like whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: you know, because like you know, like I got him now,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: I got his phone number. I just threaten the fucking
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: guy unless he's a made guy or he's a mafia
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: guy's with someone he doesn't know who I am from
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: New York. I'm talking like, you know whatever. So I
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: got the fucking guy, and then he would have roll over.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: I would send him like a fucking four oh one
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: a dayoa fucking test like some fucking testament filament, fucking
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: phishing reel. Or I'd sell them or I'd give them gifts.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: And I was great at it. I was fucking great.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: So so when I sold these people, they said, yes,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. So we ran sixty thirty second commercials
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: in March saying our profit line sports is a number
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: one sports analyst in the world. We played the game
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: one hundred times in a computer and we decide what
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: statistics and analysts work. Call us now. And of course
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: I had a big sales force and they were really abused.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: So so HBO cuts off immediately and they stopped using
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: national commercial. You could not buy a national commercial after
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: I did that, because they were like holy fuck, this
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: guy just wrecked our fucking business. It was such a
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: bad name because I was so abusive with the people,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: because we sold, you know, we sold hard, like super
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: fucking hard. You know, a guy would hang up, We'd
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: call again, guy hang up, call again, you know, like
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: you know what they made do not calls, and they
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: made these lists of what I used to do to people.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I get it, but you know it took me twenty
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: years to do it. But I did, you know, I
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: was doing in the eighties. So then all of a sudden,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: USA today, a national newspaper allowed us to fucket advertise
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: and it was the craziest thing I've I'd run a
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: basic ad, you know, I'd run a little ad, and
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: then there was like twenty little ads. So then I said,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: how do I get rid of this competition? I ran
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: a half page add and then somebody ran a quarter
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: page add so then I ran a full fucking page
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: At sixty thousand dollars in nineteen eighty four. We have
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: a freestanding building that we're on the second floor, six
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: on nine Route one O nine in West Babylon. The
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: building is still there. Oddly enough, when Jenks came to
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: my house, for the first time. That works with tank
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: I took him for six hours and I showed him
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: every building I owned, every place I went to, and
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: he was floored. So you walk into this building and
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: on the left side there was this little office, tiny office,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: smaller than this, and it was these two guys and
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: their job. What they did was supply strippers for strip
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: clubs on Long Island. And this is like eighty three
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: and strippers and strip clubs in the eighties. They were
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: like crackers, you know what I mean. They were disgusting,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: very thin, no tits, gross girls, but they were doing
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: it for the money. He would send them up to
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: my office and we just fucked the fuck shit out
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: of them, you know whatever. We didn't give a fuck
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: at the time, twenty you know, you'd suck anything. What
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: you know, then just do what you gotta do. All
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, one day, this fucking guy in a
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: fucking gazillion dollar suit with gazillion dollar jewelry, he is
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: in the office. They come here. He goes, Yeah, Joey Bang,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: I just got out of jail, did seventeen years. I
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: killed five people. He goes, My two guys here, say
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: you're a fucking guy. You're a fucking erner. You're a
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: fucking jew reclay stewarded jew. You're a fucking earner. He goes,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: I want to do business now, my partner, I'm twenty two,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: he's forty three. Here's Italian also, and he hated this guy.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: He says, the guy is a fucking criminal. Guy's a
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: fucking loser. And my partner once we started making money. See,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: my father taught me when I made money, don't show
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: you make money, don't don't dress like you make money,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: don't do anything reverse with this guy. This guy's in
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: his forties already. He wants to show his dick. You know,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: he's fucking everything that walks. He's going to these p
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: W p beatings parents for our partners. He was single
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: and he was taking down god, uh fucking fifteen girl
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: crazy PW. And he goes, but I hate your hard
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: he's not your own me respect. I'm like, well, listen, listen,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: I'm showing your respect, Joe. I don't want no fucking
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: problems here, like whatever. So they he starts having a
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: card game downstairs, and we were writing at the time
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: about five million bucks on a board that you wrote it.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: The minute guy makes a sale, we like we used
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: to sell, like we used to call a person up
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: and go listen. Our package is one point five million,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: but all I need from you now is one hundred
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand, and you owe me one million, three
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand, and I'll work that off picking the winners.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: And some people go, okay, that works. Think about that. Okay,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: that works. I got one hundred and fifty grand sale.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: So we were just killing. We were killing. This guy
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: has a card game and one of my and one
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: of my managers starts playing in the car game and
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: this guy, Jo says, I hate that fucking guy, Tony
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: Upstairs's partner. I love the fucking jew but I hate
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: the partner. I'm gonna fucking make a move. I'm gonna
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: send one of my guys up there. So he sends
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: this Lucabrotzi guy up to my office and Joe says
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: to me, Stewart, I want you to fucking give him
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: a job. What am I supposed to say? I said, yes, okay,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: no problem. This fucking I couldn't even talk. He was
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: not there to pitch, he was there to to look
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: and I was stupid enough to not take the board down.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: So he told Joey everything. So I get into work
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: on a Saturday about ten minutes late, and my partner
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: was fucking beat the fuck at him. He had a
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: two pay ripped off. His whole face was bloody. He goes,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: fucking Joey, fucking send someone here to beat me up.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: I go, how do you know it's Joey? He goes,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: what are you talking about? We know it was Joey
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: because the day before we fired this Lucabrotzi guy and
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: it was a real hold to do, even getting him
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: out of the office. So then my partner now has
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: this fucking idea because I went back to my father,
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: and my father was friends with my uncle who worked
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: for the FBI, and he took pictures. He said, get
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: out of the business. What are you fucking crazy, it's
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: mafia business. Get out of the fucking business. You got
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: a fucking issue here. What are you gonna do? You
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: fuck get out of the fucking business. Do something else,
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: anything else, Just kick the fuck out. I said, I'm
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: not getting the fuck out. I make a lot of
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: money here. So my partner says he knows a friend
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: that's in the mafia. He goes to the friend. Friend
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: comes to the office. Friend says, Tony, you come with
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: me to Brooklyn. I'm gonna drive to Brooklyn and we're
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: gonna meet this guy Rocco. Classic. So in Brooklyn, Rocco
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: has like a fucking an apartment in Bensonhurst, but in
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: the basement there's like fucking twenty TVs. And he sits
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: down and he tells. My partner goes, Tony, what this
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: guy joe He's gonna do is fucking kill you and
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: take your fuck moses. That's how it works. So you're
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: with me now, I'll protect you. So on the way home,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: the people in the car ask Tony what his addresses? Oh, maddress,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: and he thought that was weird, so he gives him
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: a fake address. Okay, Tony comes back and says, it
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: was really fucking weird. I don't know what to do.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: But this guy Joey, they said he's gonna kill gonna
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: kill us. I said, guy loves me. He's not gonna
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: kill me, because well, what the fuck is gonna kill me?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: It's the same as killing you, right, I said, yeah, Yeah,
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: we're in this together. I'm not I'm not fucking bailing
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: out of you. The next day, same situation. I get
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: to work like fifteen minutes late, and they beat the
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: fuck out of my partner and this time they wreck
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: the whole office. Two people. But the problem was one
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: of the guys said to him like a Dodo, and
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: I know where you fucking live. You're at this, so
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: we're gonna come to your fucking house if you don't
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: give us the money, because what they were asking for
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: was forty percent of our gross money. Before we wrote
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: we give them forty percent and then we're good. So
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: now he knows it's them because they gave the fake address.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: So he's now different, two different gangs coming at him now.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: So, by the way, quick pen your buddy, your partner
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: has to stop showing up to work on time since
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: I'm showing a burlernutes like fifty minutes, like, don't pitch
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: your feating at all.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: So so now we've got a real fucking problem. That
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: a five million dollar business. Now, in those days, the
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: big customers paid us in cash. They would put one
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in a fed Ex, and
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: certain weeks we had three four hundred thousand dollars in cash,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: just on which. Of course, you know we're blowing the money.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to Atlantic City. I couldn't lose the money
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: quick enough. I couldn't buy enough coke. I couldn't give
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: it away to my friends. I couldn't wait to go
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: to sporting events, paying top dollar shows. Everything restaurants. Walk
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: in La Cirque, La Perigord, laburnadn matred d. Here's a
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: thousand fucking I want that table. We weren't even dressed.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: You got it, mister fine. I tip everybody two hundred.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: I'd spend ten thousand. La Cirque, La Perigord, Laburnadin, all
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: the top restaurants in you know, in New York's Park Steakhouse,
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: every one of them, Smith Lenski's, every fucking one of them.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: They knew me because I fucking, you know whatever, I
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: bought my way in. You know, I didn't have the rep,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: but I did want to get think of a flying fuck.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: They treated me better than they would have treated Paul Newman,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: A big star. Didn't matter. So my uncle says, if
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: you're not going to get out of business, you got
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: to call security. From here. You gotta get guards so
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: my father. It was the greatest because my father is
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: an army veteran too towards to Germany, and he was
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: a complete side guy. Complete. He comes there with his
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: friends and they bullet proof every one of my windows
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: with this plexiglass that was bulletproof. He puts starters in
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: all of our cars so that we could start the
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: car from the top of the office, because he says,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: that's what they do. They're gonna blow the car, and like,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: you know's whatever, this is nut. We sleep at the office.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: We get two security cars on guns walk around with
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: us everywhere we go. For two weeks, they build a wall.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: Now where to get into my office, you have to buzz.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: There's a guy sitting there with a shotgun in full view.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: They buzz you in under odd desks. Everyone shotguns unlimited ammunition.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: I never shot a shotgun in my life. Nine even
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: half the people there. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: if we had to shoot it, there's no way I
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: would have had to take in a shotgun. I thought
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: about it in my head. I would take shotgun and
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: bee person with it. I'm not that right, literally, there's
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: no way. And Sandy at the time is working for me,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: Her father is working for me, Her sister in law
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: is working for me, her brother in law is running
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: the business. So this is like a psycho family operation. Here.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: There is a serious fucking situation and we're making too
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: much money. Like you know, I'm like, it's too easy money.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: And I'm picking fucking winners left and night too, mind you,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: I'm picking fucking every winner every Super Bowl. I catch
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: every Monday Night underdog, I catch every Sunday Underdog. I'm like,
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: fucking unconscious. People can't wait for me to give the
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: picks out. Yeah, fuck, I'm giving to pick out on Tuesday.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: Because I saw the games already, I was able to
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: click immediately. They're flying a Vegas with a one hundred grand,
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand. They're borrowing money from Shylocks
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: at two to three points a week, taking that money
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: going to Vegas to beout the games. Because I was
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: that good at that time, so I had a major following.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: I was number one in the country, in the fucking country.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: So then.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, after about six days, one of
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: the guys sitting there at the door with the he goes,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: you can't live like this guys, listen, I'm gonna send
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: someone to your office. They'll solve this fucking problem. So
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: I said, good. This guy comes in with a fucking cigarette,
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: just like a pure fucking movie. Me and my partner
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: behind our desks. This guy goes, I'll solve your problem.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: Solve your problem. Twenty five thousand. What twenty five thousand,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: we'll give it that to you right now. No, no, no,
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 2: twenty five thousand for life. Every year, and once a
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: year you go to a Christmas party and you give
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: the boss five grand I'm like, we're in. We're in now.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: Most people said to us, most people that I went
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: to after I did the deal, they said, listen, the
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: same as the other two. They're gonna take over your
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: fucking business, you stupid fucking jew. Are you crazy? What
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: are you doing? It's gonna go so bad, so quick.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, oh, like we just I had to piss so
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: bad ahead, but don't tell you.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm out. We're literally gonna sit in silence. Yeah,
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: oh god, I'm.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: Never a bo dull moment.
• 2:01:49
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• 2:01:54
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I think it's one of those deals where
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: there we don't have Yeah, let's jump back in.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll lose any moment of thought.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: You're right, you're right doing this?
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: No, okay, all right, cool, go ahead.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, So now he says this is the plan because
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: they know that Tony, my partner, is not with anybody
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: because they smacked myund They asked him if he was
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: with anybody? He said no, Then he reached out to
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: a second place, which smacked him around. So both places, no,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: he's not with anybody. So here's the plan. The guy goes, listen,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna bring my
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: guy back here because the guy that we met was
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: not the guy.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: The one that you're gonna pay twenty five for life.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: Correct, okay, correct. So he brings his buddy, and his
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: buddy says to me, this is what we're gonna do.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: We're downstairs right fuck me now, okay, And here's what
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: the story is. You've been with me since seventh grade.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: You had a problem selling tickets, and I solved the problem,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: and you fucking with me. And it's on record, and
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: it's on order, and I put it on order. I said, listen,
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: why can't you go down without me? He goes, don't
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: worry about it. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm just
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: gonna talk to him with we know this shit. We've
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: done this before. I'm like, okay. And the things I
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: did in the late in tenth, eleventh, twelfth grade is
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: I sold concert tickets. I got the first five rows
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: for every show at the NASA Coliseum, Madison Square Garden,
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: all of Jersey, all of CONNECTI all Philadelphia, I in
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: I think eleventh grade. Me and Sandy bought Seventh Throw
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: Center for Genesis at Madison Square Garden for the then
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: there were three tour Gabriel left. It was the first
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: album they came out without Peter Gabriel. Don't know if
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: you're familiar with Genesis, Phil Collins and whatever. So and
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: that was our favorite album. And as it turns out,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 2: follow You, Follow Me was our wedding song. So we
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: paid this guy forty dollars each. I didn't have the
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: money at the time. She paid. I paid Dutch and
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: we said Seventh Throw Center. We meet this guy, and
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: this guy says to me, I need you to bring
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: down people to wait online for me. It's either the
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: night before we wait online from like eight at night
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: until the show goes on sale, or six o'clock in
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: the morning. You have people online, and then we filtered
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: people in where you are. I said, okay, So I
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 2: sold concert tickets and I sold pot only two things
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: I ever did in high school and my first three
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: years of college. I went to NASA Community College right
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: cross the Colosseum.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: So I.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: Was very popular and very valuable because if you wanted
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: to see a fucking show, you had to go through me. Now,
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: none of my money, I didn't use any of my
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: money for anything. This guy would give me the money
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: pay each person either a first five roer cent a
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: ticket for free, or one hundred bucks. So I sold
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: concert tickets and we had a lot of wars with
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: people because there would be people sitting online for a
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: day ease and we would just literally I got football
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: players to work for me. We would literally there would
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: be like a list of like six hundred people that
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: have been there for four days. I would literally walk
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: up to the line, let me see the list. They
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: go yes to sign here, take the list with a
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: bit the fuck up, and then my football players would
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: literally take these metal like barricades and squish them against
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: the wall. We would filter like forty people in front,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 2: and then we put the barricade back and we go,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: what the fuck you want to do? You want to
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: fucking let's go? You want to fucking go? And a
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: couple of times they beat this living fuck out of people,
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: like literally like like should have gone to jail, shit,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: left them for dead. But then you know they were scared,
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: so they didn't call the cops. So this guy says, listen,
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: here's the deal. I helped you when you're having problems.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: You're fucking with me, you've been with fucking me. I said, okay,
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: but I don't want to go downstairs hereuse you gotta
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: come down. It'll be very mellow. So I go down
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: with this guy and the other guy stays upstairs, and
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: he literally the second he walked in, just threatens the
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: fuck out of this guy. He's like, oh, to fuck
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: you think you are. You're making a move on him.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: He's fucking with me. Check on record, he's on fucking record.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: He's fucking with me. Who the fuck are you? And
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: then this guy's like, oh, whoa, whoa. I didn't know
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: what you know, And that's how it went down. I
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: didn't know how am I supposed to know.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 7: I didn't know.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: I hate his fucking partner, disrespect me. He doesn't say
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 2: hello to me, this and that, and I'm literally sitting
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: there thinking I'm getting shot. I'm literally getting shot here
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: because he has a gun with him, he has a
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: gun on him. I know the other guy has a gun.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: He's already killed people. He's been he just got out
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: of jail, and I'm sitting there like like, I swear
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: to God, my heart has never beat so fucking fast.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: But he backed down, back down, So then that really
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: gave me the license. Now to just have a license
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: is deal? A licensee? Just go my It was my
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: dream come true, Like I could do whatever the fuck
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: I want. And if I got a beef, this guy's
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 2: gonna fucking come and fucking tell you to fuck yourself,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: because it's on record that I'm with him. And his
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: guy was like fucking like like a big guy, like,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: oh he on like three fucking bars and queens two
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: bars in New York. And every time I met that guy,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: I was always super scared because he was always making
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: a move on me. He's like, what can we do
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: to make money? What can we do to make money?
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 2: Like he didn't like physically make something happen, But every
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: time it's a come on, can't you cut me in?
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: What's the story? What's the deal? And I just kept
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: him in the arms distance. I never was late with
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: the money. I always went to the the Christmas parties
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: and he'd be like, you know, he'd introduce me to
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: everybody like, this is a this is a barry thy things,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: just gotta jail killing five people. He only has five
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: things because he fucking got his hand cut off and
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: fucking jail and be like, this is a fucking jew.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: Stewart a jew. He's a fucking ern it for us.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: That's how they introduced, Like Hi, how you doing. And
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: this went on for like three years. Then all of
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: a sudden, the guy that was the first guy that
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: we met that wasn't involved with mafia says he needs
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: a job, let's come work with me. And for some
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: reason I unconditionally trusted it. I did not think anything
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 2: bad would happen, and it did it. This guy became
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: my best salesman, he became one of my managers and
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: has my back to this fucking second. So my partner
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: did not like this guy. He didn't like him, didn't
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: trust him. So he opens his own office, takes half
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: my crew were still partners, and goes like to hounds
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: down the road, builds a state of the art office
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: and he's doubling what I write, doubling me. Can't figure out.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: How well, all of a sudden, was it a bad
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: breakup with you? Too.
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: No, no, because he would never rob for me. There
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: was no robbing about First of all, I'm close enough
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: to this guy. Can't rob me because this guy fucking
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: you know you can't. You know he knows it, but
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: he just wanted to be the guy and he didn't
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: like the situation. Okay, fine, he goes to this place
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: and he's doubling my business. I can't figure out how.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: So what he's doing is just banging people's credit cards.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: He's randomly just fucking hitting him. Guy would pay two
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: fifty for a week and then say no, I want
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: to stop, and he'd have like two hundred of these people.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: He would just hit their cards for two fifty every single.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: Day, every day, even if they didn't want it.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: They had no idea, how about this? How about this?
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: Only fifty percent of the money charged back? Only fifty
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: percent charge back. People didn't even look at their credit card,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: they just paid it. It was like surreal. Eventually we
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: lost all merchant gums. And I said, you're fucking that's ridiculous.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: How have you been doing this? You know you know
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: how to sell, fucking sell. We make enough money selling you, scumbag,
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: I said, we're fucking done, and he went a separate way,
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: and then I kept my people and I did not
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: hire any of the people that were with him back,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: just fucked them because they with scams in it. With
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: these I'm like, how didn't you tip me off? You
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: know this, that's a fucking felony. You're going to jail
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: for what you just did. Thank god, I had enough
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: money that I paid every single charge back, so even
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: though they knew it was crazy, I paid it back.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: And they were embarrassed that they were so vulnerable that
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: they could be whacked out for tens of you know,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars in theory you didn't catch it.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: Sandy was working at the time before she became my
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: full time bookkeeper at Bank of America, I think it
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 2: was Bank of America, and the FBI comes to her
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: house fund and out comes in her fucking door and
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: starts grilling her about used to work at the bank.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: What happened here? Your boyfriend just you know, you had
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: two million in chargebacks? What you know? Would you know
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: were you on the inside and her mother going out
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: with her four years at the top of my mother goes, listen,
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of my fucking house. You don't
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: listen to you don't talk to my fucking door to
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: go fuck yourself. You got something to fucking say, get
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: me a give me a fucking warming, otherwise go fuck
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: yourself and throw them out. And they never came back.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: So I could have been in a lot of trouble
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: because you know, in other words, that I was still
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 2: half partners with this guy at the time when all
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: these stratege backs came in. I made it good and
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: then that was it. So I escaped a very very
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: big problem with that. And then from that point forward
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: it taught me. So taught me to be squeaky clean
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: with credit cards. Like squeaky clean, there was no bullshit.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: You know, you never overcharged a card like in those days.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: People would say, put it on the card and would
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: get the code. They go, STU, hold the code, and
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send you cash at the end of the
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: week because they got paid in cash. Those days. It
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: was cash. Everything was cash. There was no checks, there's
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: no nothing else. There was no PayPal, there was no zell.
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: It was you know, fucking you got paid in cash
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: with a book maker and you paid whatever you were
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: doing in cash and he kept what he would do
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: also when you were when he still with me at
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 2: the time, if they didn't pay after five days and
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: we'd have like eighteen thousand on the wall because we'd
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: have the customers like their sheets on the wall, he
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: would go put her all through. And at the time
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: I was okay with that because the deal was you're
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: paying cash, you owe me the money. If you don't
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: have the cash, then I'm putting the credit card through
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: because I don't have your money. And then and then,
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: so I should have seen the riding on the wall
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: that when he went on his own, he was just
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: gonna randomly just go wild, and that's what he did.
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: And eventually he just went totally out of business. Everybody
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: left him totally out of business. So now we're in
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: let's see nineteen eighty eight. I get married to Sandy.
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 2: On my honeymoon, I go Italy for two weeks, cruise
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: two weeks, come back, and I say, got to buy
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: a building. Gott I buy a building. So I buy
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: my first building. It was a freestanding, four thousand square
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: foot building. I pay three hundred and sixty thousand for
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 2: the building. Right now, the building I sold in nineteen
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: ninety five for like six sixty it's worth two point
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: seven million. I fuck, I want to throw up. But anyway,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: so we buy this building. Now we're absolutely killing. And
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine was the eighty eight I bought
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 2: the building, eighty eight I got married. Eighty nine we
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: did our first show. It was called the Sports Advisors.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 2: We got this idea to go to MERV Griffin's resorts.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: We pitched MERV Griffin's like second in command guy. He
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: gave us a five thousand square foot suite at MERV
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: Griffin's Resorts. It was called the Griffins Suite through Nerve
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: State with a fucking elevator, five thousand square feet. In
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, mind you and Butler. Unlimited food, unlimited everything.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: They'd fly us from the airport which is in Farmingdale
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 2: to Atlantic City. We would hang out on a Monday night,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: film the show on Tuesday, go home Tuesday night. And
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: Jim Klack was the host, and he was a lineman
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and he was great at what
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: he did. He was great, similar to you guys played
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: the game, but could talk like a fucking professional analyst,
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: you know, very glib amazing told stories. You know, his
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: body count was two thousands, so we always bragged about too,
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: how many women he fucked, which was two thousand. I said,
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: how is that possibly? Goll I got a twelve go fucking.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: It was bossible. I was fucking for women to night.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, great, that's great. And that was the
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: first year we did the show and sports nineteen ninety.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 2: I was partners with a couple of people the first
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 2: year and nineteen ninety I went on my own nineteen
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 2: ninety it was the first year I did nine hundred
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: numbers where people would pay me to speak to me
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: and speak live, and my business was high end tickets.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: We could get a million dollars out of a customer.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: We would just take half of his winnings. And when
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: we went on a roll, they were happy because on
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: their own they got annihilated, like when people's when people bet,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: the misconception is that when you bet, when you actually bet,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: forget about picking anybody could pick. When you actually bet
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: your fucking money and you get your teeth kicked in
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: two weeks in a row, then you get your teeth
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: kicked in three weeks in a row. Then the fourth way,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: you chase everything because you want to make up for
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: the money, and you get your fucking ass kicked into
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: fourth week, you're like, I got fucking problems. Then you
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: normally start borrowing money is in eighties and nineties to
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: pay what you can't pay, and then you're betting. You
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: reach out for help. So people at that time would
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 2: pay me anything to win, because because when people bet
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: you don't hit fifty percent, you don't hit forty percent,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: you hit twenty percent, you get fucking annihilated. You know,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: as Dave would tell you, as Big Cat would tell you,
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, you lose a lot of fucking money, a
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: lot of money.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: And so.
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the craze, the big crave was
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers. Sex phones were on nine hundred numbers
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: where you would pay anywhere between five dollars to twenty
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: five dollars to listen to the girl's talk on a record,
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: a message or live. Dean Warwick did the Psychic Friends
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 2: Network and they were writing hundreds of millions dollars orf
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers. It would be paid like five dollars
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: per minute. And then sports started getting off the wall
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: with nine hundred numbers, and I was always scared because
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's a ten dollar number, a twenty five
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: dollar number, and a fifty dollar number. That's how I started.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how can I ever bump the people? Well,
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: ps the first day I ran my ad on the
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: TV show. First day on the twenty five dollar number,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: I wrote thirty thousand dollars first day, and then I
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: bumped the twenty five dollar number to the fifty dollar number,
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: which wroughte another thirty thousand dollars. So I was riding
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: like sixty thousand a week on nine hundred numbers. All
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: my salesman were super scared right now because like they
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: knew at that moment, I don't need that. This is
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: much clean of business. I just put a three minute,
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: four minute analysis on a record. A message gets fucking
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 2: hit to the nine hundred number, and you're fucking golden.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: So we were writing. We wrote like eight million dollars.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: We wrote four million, six million, eight million, back to
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: back to back, and the show is just absolutely murdering.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: It was all off the TV show and this is
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: you going so low.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm alone right now. All my fucking money, all
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: my money, so I'm like, this is nuts, this is
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: I got the world by the bulls. And then all
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, this fucking scumbag rupert murder Channel five,
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 2: Fox five says, I want to get into the NFL game.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: I want to fucking take the NFL. Should the NFL
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: programming from CBS? And he makes an absurd offer and
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: takes it from CBS and he puts it on Fox five.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. He has no sports channels. I'm
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: in like every sports channel in the country Thursday night,
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: Friday night, Saturday morning, Sunday morning, I'm in like sixty
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 2: sports channels. We have a budget of like one hundred
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars a week. He buys all the
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 2: sports channels and throws me off.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 3: Do you not like you?
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: No, he needed it for his NFL program and at
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: the time ninety three is when he started, he bought
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 2: them all ninety three, threw me off, and then in
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 2: ninety four he actually had it where he owned the
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 2: NFL programming. There's nothing I could do. Nothing I could
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: do because the NFL at the time, gambling was like taboo.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: You couldn't even say that, you know, like think about it,
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: now it's you know ninety four. It was like, you know,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: no way. So then I started scramming. So then I
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 2: had to retake back the nine eight hundred business and
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 2: try to make it go live. And the Internet was
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: just a thought. We went to like ten separate seminars
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: on the Internet, and the Internet was like the most
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: obscure thing. You would go to this fucking meeting and
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: now it's like you live on it. But then people
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: would talk about we have these we have a way
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: that throughout the world, we have this thing that it's
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be there and everybody's going to be there. So major, major,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: big players dumped so much money into the Internet. In
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 2: ninety five, lost their fucking dick. Ninety six, they chased
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: it again, got murdered ninety seven, got murdered ninety eight.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: It blew up. So these people who were on the
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: balls of their ass almost bankrupt, became millionaires. And I
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: was not ready for I could not understand it. I
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: didn't have the skill set at the time. In nineteen
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: ninety and ninety one, I advertised on score phones. I
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 2: advertised in two hundred score phones in two hundred different cities.
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 2: They gave scores odds lines, injury Reports, weather reports. They
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 2: also jammed nine hundred numbers in it, and I would
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: have the first thirty seconds, going, Hi, Folcus is Steve
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: Fineman right now? I have the lock of the year.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: I have a game that can't lose. I have a
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 2: game you can bet your children's eyes on. Called me
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: now at eight hundred, and that was I was able
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: to soften the blow of losing all my TV networks
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: to Rupert Murdock. So I still had my show, but
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: my budget went from one hundred and fifty thousand to
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: thirty thousand. I was in very select networks and not
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: the biggest ones. But I was on Scorephones. I was
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 2: doing good, doing good enough. So in nineteen ninety three,
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: the person that owned the score phones, he loses like
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 2: four million dollars gambling in like four months in Vegas.
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: He just went on the worst fucking you know, full
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: tilt end. Ever, he says to me, still, I want
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 2: to sell you the business, Like, why would you hold
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 2: me your businesses, it's a fucking great business. I'm paying
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: you a million to a year. You're fucking He goes,
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: I got in trouble. So we come to an agreement.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: Four million dollars, put a million down, finance three million. Fine.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: It's a steal. It's fucking like stealing money, and say
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: no to it. I worked as a landscaper for William Schwindler.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: He was the co founder of Grumman Aerospace. He was
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: partners with Leroy Grumman. They built all the fighter planes
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: in World War Two. He was the engineer. His claim
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: to fame was in the movie Apollo thirteen worth Gary
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: Sonice and Tom Hanks when they were stuck up in
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: the fucking air. There's a scene in the movie with
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 2: his two big tables and this guy comes in and
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: throw a shit on the table and says, you're the
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: smartest people in the world. They're gonna come through the
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: atmosphere and burn the fuck up. We need to figure
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: out how to save them, and you're the smartest people
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: to figure it out. This guy saved them. When they landed.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: In real life, they drove right to his fucking house
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: which is now my house, and thanked him. Vice presidents
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: were in my basement during World War Two while he
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: was building the fucking fighter planes to fight the fucking Germans. Okay,
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 2: so I when we got caught swimming in his pool
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: in sixth grade, and instead of him giving us hard time,
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: he goes, next year, will hire you. So he hired
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: me and my brother and like four friends. Oh lasted
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: like four months because we ran around. We did nothing this.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 2: We worked for this guy Bill and we were in
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: this greenhouse on the property of a seven point eight acres.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: It was absolutely fucking incredible. It was a one point
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: eight acre side field. It was three point two acres
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: in the back and we were on two point five
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: eight acres. He had a nineteen hundred square foot nineteen
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 2: thirty six English tutor. He had a barn, he had
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: a tool shed, he had a chicken coop, horse stables,
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: twenty by sixty in the ground pool next to the pool,
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: men's bathroom, men show, women's bathroom, women's shower. Three million
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: dollars in trees, psycho fucking trees, maple trees, oak trees,
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: in human It was like you were at a fucking arboreator.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: The house was take your breath away. We worked there
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: four months, got fired and I told the guy day one,
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: I said, when you die, I want to buy your house.
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 2: Fucking guy dies, said, I buy his fucking house. Nineteen
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: ninety So in nineteen ninety four, the way I got
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: the million dollars was my house is on a two
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: point five acre piece that it's one acre zoning. The
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 2: one point eighty cassade field next to me is one
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: acre zoning. The back three point two acres is seventy
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: by one hundred zoning. So I built eleven houses. I built,
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 2: I made a cul de sac, I got the roads approved,
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 2: I put the roads in, I put the sewers in,
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: I plotted the land out named after my oldest son,
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: Sean Michael, and I flipped it and I took that money,
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: bought the score phones. Score phones were fucking killing. Nine
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: hundred numbers were killing. I have the eight hundred numbers,
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 2: even though I lost the TV show, which would have
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: made me probably a twenty thirty fifty million dollar a
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: year guy, because it was just growing, growing, grown, because
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: the TV show is just off the fucking wall. It
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: was the only show. It's the only fucking show. And
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 2: that's where I built my reputations being so and being
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: entertaining and screaming, yelling because I knew that gamblers gambling
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: in reality is only and only should be for the
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: rich to have fun and lose money. Gambling equates to
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: losing money. Gambling equates to having fun and losing money.
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 2: There is no winning. You could say, stew somebody wins.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody wins. They've never won, they never will win. Two
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: types of gamblers. A gamble who says he's a winner,
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 2: he's a lawyer, and he's a loser, or just a
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: straight up gambler that's just a loser. So that's the
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: reality of gambling since the beginning of fucking time. Now
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: DraftKings FanDuel me, barstool you anyone that's not what we say,
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: We fucking get on that. We gave a hunt, We
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: give one hundred percent to be entertaining, to be funny,
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: to be enjoyable, to take you out of your miserable,
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: scumbag fucking life that sucks cock and you can escape.
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: But the reality is, eventually gambling is gonna ruin everything.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: Gambling being legal is gonna ruin children, It's gonna ruin everyone.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: It takes. It teaches you such bad habits, and God
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: forbid you win early, and you win quick, and you
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: got a bankload of money. That's the worst fucking thing
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 2: that could happen The best thing it can happen is
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: you gamble and you go in hard and you get
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: your fucking teeth king kicked in. So then you learn
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: I love gambling. I'm gonna gamble forever. Let's take a
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: couple of zero so for what I'm gonna play. So
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with gambling every fucking day. Nothing wrong
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 2: with it. I suggest it. Do it, but be irresponsible
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 2: because you're never winning, and it's going to ruin your life.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 2: Not only will it ruin your life, it will ruin
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 2: how you go about every decision in your life, whether
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 2: it's how you treat people, whether it's women, whether it's business.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: He goes gambling is quick fix, quick fix. Wow, in
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 2: two hours, I get a bug a boatload of money.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: But that's not how life works. Well, Stu, I'm going
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 2: to study, Stu. I had this said, Listen, gambling is
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 2: for the rich to have fun and lose money. And
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: that's it, and that's the rule. So right, nineteen ninety
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: seven was my biggest year. I write eight million, Live
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: with people. From my first building, which was four thousand
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: square feet, I flip it into a second building which
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 2: is now eight thousand square feet.
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: So perfect perfect sitting duck for the Internet to take
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: you down.
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Dump all my money into the building state of
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: the art, rocking and rolling. The Internet comes and wrecks
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: me because now people can charge one dollar for what
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 2: I'm charging one million, because now the Internet is the
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 2: wild West. They're just lying about their record, They're just
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: lying about that past performance, and I can't compete because
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: they're doing national TV. I can't lie. People think I lie.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: I can't lie. What are you talking about? I'm in
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 2: front of you every day now. Certain times when I
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: get my teeth kicked in, I do not go on
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: and go I got my teeth kicked in. That's about
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: the only thing I do that could be looked at
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: as manipulative. But I can't lie. I've never lied about
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: a record. I don't lie about jack shit. What happens
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: is I get a bill in the mail from eight
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 2: and ten. How the nine hundred numbers worked is aight,
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: and T pays you ninety days after the money comes in,
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: and then they wait in another twenty days. So let's
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: say I write it money in septem I do not
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: get the September money October, November, December. I get middle
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: of January, they hold twenty five percent for chargebacks twenty
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: five percent, and then they take six percent for their fee.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: How about this chargebacks were seventy five percent? No shit,
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: They did not have the ability to block payphons. So
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: how about a payphone and a fucking bar. Everybody's called
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: my nine hundred numbers. We don't know it. Eighte and
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: t's paying me. They loost like forty million dollars in
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: a day, and they almost went out of business at
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: and T and I got a fucking monster bill. I
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: owed them like gazillion dollars and I had to pay
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 2: it because I was personal on that. So the Internet
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: and that wiped me the fucking I was done. I
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: had a shot to be a billionaire, one hundred million
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: dollar guy with ten million a year coming in me,
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 2: fucking living large, going to Atlantic City every fucking day,
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 2: hanging with Donald Trump, hanging with Marlon Maples when he
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: was fucking around on his first wife, fucking Marla. I
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 2: was right there, tried to fuck us. She said, no,
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't actually say I want to fuck you,
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: but I like was flirting, and she fucking looked at
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: me like, come on, please, and went fucking Donald Donald
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 2: was when Donald opened his casino. I was one of
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: his top guys there. Got one hundred thousand dollars current
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 2: line lost in thirty minutes, got another hundred thirty minutes.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: He had a executive room where he had the high roller,
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: where he had the restaurant. This restaurant coach Arizade, and
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: right from the high roll, you walked right into the
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: fucking restaurant. And the way Donald made all his money
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: at the casinos. His plan was to buy the casino
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: and run it into the ground and bankrupt it and
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: rebuy it back from the bank at ten cents on
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: the dollar. Because he knew that he had them buy
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 2: the balls. He did it like seven different times. Brilliant,
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: brilliant fucking move. I mean ruthless. I mean people who
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 2: invested with him got teeth kicked in. But he didn't
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: because he knew the law. So he played the game.
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: So he was first to give me what anyone that
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: was a high roller, unlimited rooms. I was able to
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: get seven eight rooms for all my friends. I was
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: able to get free food, rooming board. I was drinking
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: ten bottles of crystal a night, free limos, free plane free.
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 2: So that's how I rolled. So the Internet and the
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 2: nine hundreds destroyed me. Now I got a real bad
• 2:33:29
  Speaker 2: name for myself because they did it like that. I
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: kept screaming that I could win, and I could win,
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 2: and I could win. I'm guaranteeing winners. So I said,
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: let me do this. Let me get professional athletes to
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 2: work for me, and they'll be the face of my companies,
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 2: and then we'll have a crazy sales force selling hard
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: under them. It's got to be a home run. So
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: I get bum Phillips, I get Craig Morton, and I
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: get Truck Knox. All three are work for me. I
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: think at the Patra margin thirty five thousand, immediately laid
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: it that immediately. Truck Knox immediately gives me the money
• 2:34:14
  Speaker 2: back within a week because he said the NFL will
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: not allow him ever into the Hall of Fame if
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 2: I do this. Because this is like in the nineties,
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 2: like this is not now. Now everyone has it, so
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: they were useless. No one gave a fuck about Craig Mooreton.
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: They didn't care that he took the Giants to the
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 2: Zoop Bowl. He would played Giants Super Bowl, Bronco Super Bowl,
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: you know, took two different teams heatdn't. They didn't give
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 2: a fuck. They did not care about bum Phillips. I
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: caught a bad break, which was a good break for
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: their family, bad break for me. Wade Phillips becomes like
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos or the Buffalo Bills,
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 2: one of the two at the time. So then I'm
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: running half page adds. One of my companies was named
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: in side information Sports. So it was a Monday night game,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: Colts are playing. I think the Bills. I think it
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 2: was the Bills. Can I say it was the weekend
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving? And I say, listen, I've got inside information
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 2: on this game. Bumb Phillips spoke to Wade Phillips and
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: gave me the game. It's a lock, it's fixed, bet
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 2: everything you want on it. So and no one call
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: spent like literally a quarter of a million dollars advertising
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: the game one hundred and something to this bozo, does
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: it work? The deal with Craig Morton said, I don't
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 2: give a fuck about the NFL. They fucked me. They
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: didn't give me health insurance. He really railroaded me. Fuck
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: the NFL. He let me say anything. He didn't give
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: a fuck. Hung out with him and his wife in
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 2: the city. We went to plays. We were very close.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 2: Bomb Phillips, on the other hand, you know, he was
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 2: pretty straight up. You know, Houston had a big reputation,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 2: very stand up guy. Great guy met him and his wife.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: They came here. We partied. David the fucking best. You
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: cannot drink as much as bum Phillips, like like we were.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: He literally drank like six hundred dollars worth of liquor
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: in front of us, like it was crazy. You know,
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: I had like a big Christmas party. This guy did
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 2: not stop drinking and you couldn't even tell it was drunk.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: Like he wore big cowboy, had boots the whole cake
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: at The greatest guy of the deal with bum Phillips
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 2: is his wife is excuse me. His daughter was a
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 2: hotshot lawyer. So before I ran the AD, I would
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: have to send her the AD, fax it to her.
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: She would click it, send the facts back. I'd put
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: it there as documentition. Go this one time, I said,
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm getting killed here. I'm gonna take a shot.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: I did it. Okay, six o'clock in the morning.
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: This is where you said this game's lockets fixed this. Yeah,
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: put your house on it.
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, six o'clock in the morning. Three weeks later, get
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 2: a knock on the door. Hi, how you doing. You've
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: been served? NFL served me with papers this fucking thick.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 2: It was like a foot fucking high suing me because
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 2: not allowed to do that. Can't do that, you're you know,
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: the integrity of the game is on. Now, how does
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: this fucking kids do finer? You know, have a link?
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: Would bump Phillips and if and I would have never
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 2: said that. But now Wade Phillips was coaching a professional team.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: I think it was the Bills, and uh, they fucking
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: sued me. So now, oh my god, I'm in real trouble.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm in really fucking trouble. So I get
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: the number one lawyer at the time in New York,
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty five dollars an hour. Every time
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 2: I called him, he builled per minute. So if I
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: just wanted to talk to him, and I kept talking
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: to him because I didn't want to go to jail,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 2: and it looked like I was fucking dead talk to him.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 2: So we went in. We had this meeting and the
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 2: meeting was this guy, the lawyer was supposed to talk
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: to them. We were going to negotiate. Well, I just
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 2: walked into the me and I said, listen. I literally
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 2: pulled my hands down. I said, listen, I got a
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: six inch dick. I say, I have a ten inch dick,
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 2: but it's six. And I just told them everything, and
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: I just pleaded my fucking case and they said, okay.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: They said, you're never allowed to hire NFL players ever again.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 2: We want retractions times three of what you spent on
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 2: the ads. So they had a copy of like every ad.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: So let's say, I mean, I think the exact number
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: was like one hundred and sixty grand I had to
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: spend triple them in retractions every week running Inside Information.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: Sports has never spoken away, Phillips has never spoken about
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: Phillips has nothing to do with this. And it fucking
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 2: wiped me. So a combination of the Internet, combination of
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: nine hundred numbers, combination of the lawsuit really fucking whacked me.
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: So from nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and six,
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm a suicide. I did not pay
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 2: my mortgage for seven years out of eight years I
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 2: was in foreclosure. Of four years, I had no fucking money.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't have enough money to buy fucking gatory or
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: bottled water. I used to take a fucking thing and
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 2: put water on the tap, fill it up and give
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: it and bring it to my kids. And meanwhile I'm
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 2: walking around like everything's great, because part of the game,
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: part of business, part of confidence is that you've got
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 2: to walk around, Hey, everything's great, doing great, grinding it
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 2: out great. And every day I'd be on the phone
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 2: eighteen hours a day, calling people up, eighteen hours a day,
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 2: just grinding, grinding, grinding, grinded. Now, thank god, I still
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 2: use my system, and it grinded enough. When is out
• 2:40:05
  Speaker 2: where I got hot? I got hot for two, three,
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 2: four months in a row, and it would be enough
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: to make a living, to stay alive. So I was in.
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 2: I was didn't pay my mortgage, didn't pay nobody for
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 2: four months. I borrowed like like three million from mafia
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 2: on the street because I had a great reputation, saying
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: like three points a week. That's nine thousand a week
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 2: in like just fig nothing comes off the top. I
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 2: borrowed like from two million dollars from every friend I
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 2: haven't met my life and in nineteen ninety seven, which
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 2: was my best year at me and Sandy, we made
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 2: two point four million on the books. I didn't pay tax,
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: and then I didn't pay taxes ninety eight and where
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 2: I'm probably made like four hundred grand, four hundred brand.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 2: He was in a seven million dollar hole. Went to
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 2: some tax attorneys and they said, Stu, you gotta go back.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 2: You gotta wipe everyone out. I can't wipe people out.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: These are all my friends, my best friends, my mother,
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: my father, my grandmother. You know, I borrowed from everyone.
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. And then I just somehow, like
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: battle testing got fucking hot, and from two thousand and
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: five to two thousand and eleven, I hit it every
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 2: fucking penny because you got hot every fucking penny, grinded
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: it out, beat the board twenty twelve, figured out the
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 2: internet twenty and thirteen. I put free games on the
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 2: internet twelve thirteen, fourteen, and I hit a solid sixty
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 2: two percent in every fucking sport, in every fucking sport
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Back two thousand and sixteen, Big Cat and
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 2: PFT just start their ascension and they're doing funny things
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: at barstool and they run an ad where they imitate me.
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 2: Big Cat imitates one of my old commercials. PFT imitates
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: one of my commercials, and they use my actual eight
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: hundred number, my actual number. Wolves of my phone's light
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: up and I write, like fourteen thousand dollars out of
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 2: the blue. I have no idea. And then all of
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 2: a sudden, my son's friends said, you Ron Barstool, You're
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 2: on barstool. You're like, who the fuck is barstool? The
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 2: weirdest thing. My neighbor who bought my one point eight
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 2: eight is sidefield. They sold it to one person. They
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 2: built a beautiful house. I held on to two point
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 2: five eight eight is nineteen ninety three, like a probably
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 2: a million three into the house in the pool, made
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 2: forty three hundred screen forty three hundred square feet, minted
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 2: it out, fixed everything up, state of the art whatever.
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 2: He's a he's an orthodontist. Ria, Maria, you know barstool.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 2: Ria mother worked works for him. She worked for him
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 2: for thirty years. And so Ria now says I can
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: get a hold of stew So they bring me to
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: the office. The first time that I met Deportnoy in
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the old office, you know, in in
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: New York. And he comes down and he's in a
• 2:43:39
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  Speaker 2: on and unassuming. I had no fucking idea. He comes
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 2: right up to me a stew he doing I'm a
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 2: big fan, and I said thank you. I thought he
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 2: was like the garbage man. I thought he was like, like,
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 2: who the fuck you? I have no idea. I couldn't
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: really figure. I couldn't tell because I wasn't really familiar.
• 2:44:00
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• 2:44:17
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• 2:44:20
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• 2:44:23
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• 2:44:26
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• 2:44:29
  Speaker 2: and dresses me up red tie, you know, exact suit,
• 2:44:32
  Speaker 2: white shirt, and I scream and yet like I'm I'm
• 2:44:36
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  Speaker 2: Blow up. Everyone fucking loves me. I go against Larry
• 2:44:46
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• 2:44:50
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• 2:44:53
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• 2:44:55
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• 2:45:03
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• 2:45:07
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• 2:45:11
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• 2:45:15
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  Speaker 3: It was unassuming seeing Dave so just had no idea
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  Speaker 3: who he was.
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  Speaker 2: He left, and then and then someone that I took
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 2: with me there to go up says, they go, God
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 2: bless you. They said, do you realize that was fucking day?
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't I? Like, oh my god, No, I had no idea.
• 2:47:39
  Speaker 2: What a fucking the biggest loser ever. I think he
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 2: held it against me for the rest of his life,
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 2: you know, not that he gets. He doesn't really care. Yeah,
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 2: you know, he's not like that. But I was embarrassed.
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 2: I would have definitely thought about it by a totally
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 2: different way. I would have pitched myself. I would have said,
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 2: can we do dinner? You know something, you know whatever,
• 2:47:57
  Speaker 2: But that was it because like they you like, I'm
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 2: your biggest fan.
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's crazy.
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 3: Him and his dadd used to watch you.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 2: Him his dad and his uncle.
• 2:48:06
  Speaker 3: That's wild.
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons that Barstool's sports exists is because
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: of me. Because first of all, he had his father
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: was a lawyer, so he had what we would call
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: he yidisha cup. He could speak like the wind. Neighbors
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 2: thought that through his father in reality, and he had
• 2:48:24
  Speaker 2: the biggest set of wolves in the fucking world, Like
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 2: no one has a bigger set of wolves in him.
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 2: And he's and he's brilliant. Like people think he's just
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 2: some fucking Dodo. He's the smartest fucking guy in the
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: room all the time. Every time, like you know, he's
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 2: painted in the corner is like some misogynistic fucking you
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 2: know wha That is so not true. He goes he
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 2: can go against any CEO in the world, any lawyer,
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 2: and he holds his own. He knows the law.
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 3: He knows the law, and he knows how to like
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 3: how to catch you when you're saying certain things and
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 3: you're like gets one around you.
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 2: You're dead.
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 3: He just figures it out. He's the greenly smart doesn't
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 3: he doesn't even have.
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 2: Credit, No, not at all. He's the greatest counter puncher ever,
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 2: greatest counter yeah, counterpuncher, yeah, ye ever ever, ever, he
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't start the fight, he'll end the fight.
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. When you're when you're talking about meeting all
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 3: these guys, all these made dudes who are like in
• 2:49:15
  Speaker 3: the mafia and all that. What ended up happened to
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 3: these cats because he had to pay twenty five thousand
• 2:49:19
  Speaker 3: dollars for this.
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 1: That was that was the question. A you're still paying it.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 2: So what happened was this? When I told you that
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 2: the guy came to work for me, he became my
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 2: best salesman, he ran the place the main guy died.
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 3: And that was it, really and that was fucking it.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 3: How many years did you have to pay?
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 2: A decade? Yeah, yeah, a decade basically ball protection. And
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 2: what would happen was I was one of the worst
• 2:49:50
  Speaker 2: gamblers you ever started in your life, Like I would
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 2: like the minute, like when I went on Pardon My
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 2: take the first time with Big Cat the Ft and Hank,
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: you know, they would degenerate gambles. They were fucking firing,
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 2: they were betting everything they owned. They were just going
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 2: and I said, listen, guys, the only way to make
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 2: money is to bet one game a week. They were like,
• 2:50:09
  Speaker 2: one game a week, we bet ten games a day.
• 2:50:11
  Speaker 2: I go, oh, there's no way for you to ever
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 2: make money. You know, one game a week is the way.
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 2: So I know that from experience, because I would lock
• 2:50:21
  Speaker 2: into a week and I'd have one best bet Saturday,
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 2: one best bet Sunday, and that should be it. But
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 2: the minute I called in that one bet, I would
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 2: be a I would be like, all right, give me this,
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 2: give me this, give me this. All of a sudden,
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 2: thirty bets similar to what they do and get murdered.
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 2: My number one play would always win. Everything else would lose.
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 2: You come out even no, I just get I get killed.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I get killed even worse.
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 1: So then I get shocked in.
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 2: Then I get shut off from bookmakers, and I'd got
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 2: another bookmaker, and I just kept running debts up, major debts,
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 2: And then what would happen is we'd have to go
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 2: to a sit down and they don't know with anyone.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 2: So I'd walk in and they'd be like, don't fucking
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 2: tell me he's with you because then they're not allowed
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 2: to take my action. They literally, so I walked away
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 2: from a good million handbocks of losing that you goes,
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 2: I was working.
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 1: Which people, my people, here's the third round, like the
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 1: final round, the final month guy.
• 2:51:28
  Speaker 4: Question number two, can't lie? Said the game was fixed?
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 4: Book it Buffalo bills right?
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not served.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: But you never necessarily answered the question if you had
• 2:51:40
  Speaker 1: the inside.
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 2: If you had an inside track, they knew I did it.
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: So you essentially lied about having the conversation with bum Phillips.
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 3: But you said earlier you don't lie at all.
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 8: Oh no, I definitely lied that were there NDAs involved
• 2:51:53
  Speaker 8: with this legal meaning you had to sign NDAs if
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 8: it were to ever be brought up again, say a
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 8: bus with the boys, you have one hundred percent.
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 1: You have to say no, I never talked to bump
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: Phillips one.
• 2:52:03
  Speaker 2: Hundred percent because you're no.
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 6: No.
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 2: Well, they didn't ask that. They just said I'm never
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 2: allowed to have NFL players work for me and use
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 2: them as the face of my company.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 1: How many NFL players would bet with you? You see?
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 2: You see then they would go on to assume names
• 2:52:23
  Speaker 2: because you would go to jail. So I don't actually know.
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 1: But that you were aware of. You don't have to
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 1: say names, but a lot.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 2: Of hockey players like Ken Daniko. He called me out
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 2: of the blue. He called me the year they won
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup closer from the Pittsburgh Penman locker room, like,
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 2: how the fuck you're not fucking Candanico? What are you
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 2: talking about? I said, you're gonna know you're playing in
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 2: two hours. He goes, yeah, I know, I'm calling from
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 2: the locker room. Went on an insane role with the guy,
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 2: one of my four million bucks, major fucking role, major role.
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 1: Betting on games with him, like him, involved, like him, him,
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 1: playing the game, like his team.
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 2: No, never hockey, football, okay, got he would be.
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 3: He would pay you to get the picks and then
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 3: he would go back.
• 2:53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, never hockey.
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 2: We never spoke about hockey, but he gave me and
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 2: my brother tickets. We went to every home game that year.
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 2: I sat next to his wife and his sister for
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 2: the championship game when they clinched, they were they won
• 2:53:16
  Speaker 2: the They won two games in Detroit and then game
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 2: three and four, the Stanley Cup was at home, and
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 2: we sat next to his wife and his uh sister.
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 2: We weren't allowed to tell who we were. Was the
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 2: most crazy thing ever hanging out with that, he goes,
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't say boom y army yager in the nineties.
• 2:53:36
  Speaker 2: It was a big bet and it loost like a
• 2:53:39
  Speaker 2: million bucks?
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: Or were he what did he do?
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 2: He was one of the greatest players that literally one
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 2: of the greatest hockey players.
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: Not as much of a hockey.
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 2: Hockey came wearing, all right, Hockey came to me a lot.
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of hockey players hockeys.
• 2:53:56
  Speaker 3: Hockey players are djens, for sure.
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 4: Right, But NFL players come to you not that literally
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 4: none literally, not one that I could drop a name.
• 2:54:08
  Speaker 2: Basketball, not one that I could drop it.
• 2:54:10
  Speaker 1: How about Fosketball?
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 2: Not one that I could drop a name.
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 1: Not that yet, I mean if you literally have none? No,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 1: what about referees?
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 2: Never never like that. There was never anything like that.
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was never some shoeless Joe Jackson type stuff
• 2:54:25
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 1: Now Never.
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 2: I was never like involved with that. I don't think.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think it actually even existed that I know of, Like,
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 2: you know, like I was not like like I never
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 2: knew about it. Like there was an Arizona college basketball
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 2: betting scandal that one of my cousins best friends was
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 2: there in Arizona and his roommate was doing the fixing,
• 2:54:44
  Speaker 2: and they called me and told me this. But two
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 2: of the three games they gave me lost, So I
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 2: was like, you're a fraud. Eight months later it all
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 2: came out he was fucking telling the truth. They threw
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 2: the game. But I, you know, like in other words,
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 2: I never trusted it. Like everybody wanted to be a handicapper.
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to have an opinion, and they would call
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 2: me and they wanted to work with me picking games.
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 2: But I knew they had no idea. You know, they
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 2: were clueless. There's you know, they didn't know what the
• 2:55:10
  Speaker 2: fuck they were doing. You know, they didn't know what
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 2: they were doing. Like I ran a couple like I
• 2:55:16
  Speaker 2: ran in Let me think, how is in the eighties?
• 2:55:20
  Speaker 2: Probably I was. I ran double strip ads in the
• 2:55:25
  Speaker 2: New York Daily News and the Boston Herald, and I
• 2:55:29
  Speaker 2: spent like twenty five a week, twelve five each paper.
• 2:55:32
  Speaker 2: So you'd open up the paper and they would have
• 2:55:34
  Speaker 2: all the analysis of the sports games and I would
• 2:55:38
  Speaker 2: run a strip ad at the bottom, and that would
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 2: fucking do amazing for me, absolutely amazing. And Rick Riley
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrator came to came to me and he
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 2: wrote about me, and he'd fucking annihilated me. Oh my god,
• 2:55:58
  Speaker 2: Like that was the last time I've spoke to like,
• 2:56:00
  Speaker 2: you know when you hear these stories, I said, one thing,
• 2:56:03
  Speaker 2: we ated a Mottos and Amityvillet great meal was me,
• 2:56:06
  Speaker 2: him and Sandy. And then when it came out, the
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 2: appsolutely destroyed me. What happened was one of their customer.
• 2:56:17
  Speaker 2: They paid me as a customer and I hit like
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 2: forty percent. I was cold. They caught me for like
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 2: a three of me. I got fucking terrible and they
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 2: destroyed me in the Sports Illustrated destroyed me. Then also
• 2:56:31
  Speaker 2: I got fined by the Daily News ten thousand Department
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 2: of Consumer Affairs. I think it was eighty late eighties,
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 2: maybe ninety. They hit me with a fine because I
• 2:56:43
  Speaker 2: was too aggressive with my ads. The person who wrote
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 2: the ads to me. First week, I went seven, and
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 2: so I posted last week seven and zero. Now my
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 2: advertising agent next week put two weeks ago seven. I
• 2:57:00
  Speaker 2: didn't go seven or no that week, but it was posted,
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 2: so they immediately took the fucking ad down and finally
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 2: like ten thousand dollars. So people to this day, like
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 2: when they write bad about me, they say, STU, fine,
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 2: it was fine ten thousand dollars in the department because
• 2:57:16
  Speaker 2: it was like nineteen ninety what do we We're in
• 2:57:19
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four right now. But you know, so there
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 2: was certain things that I ran the company and certain
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 2: things that like salesmen, uh, salesman said that you know,
• 2:57:30
  Speaker 2: I would say, keep it clean, walk the line, but
• 2:57:33
  Speaker 2: they went over the line. So in reality, when you
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 2: say did I lie? Were there things I did wrong?
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 2: I'm responsible? So yes, I didn't do things wrong, certain
• 2:57:43
  Speaker 2: things not premeditated, not on a daily basis, but it
• 2:57:46
  Speaker 2: was fucking done.
• 2:57:48
  Speaker 4: The and you almost just understood that the line was
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 4: always going to be crossing in some way, and you
• 2:57:52
  Speaker 4: more g s be like, I don't want to hear
• 2:57:54
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 2:57:54
  Speaker 2: Correct, you know what I'm saying, You know, keep it
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 2: as clean as possible, but you know, whatever, you do
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 2: what you gotta do. The when Rick Riley wrote about me,
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I caught the worst break fucking possible. So
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 2: let's say it was in Sports Illustrate A big deal
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 2: the cover of that issue that I was in was
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 2: the one that Magic Johnson got aides, So it was
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 2: their biggest yeah fucking issue ever.
• 2:58:25
  Speaker 3: So like everybody read it, everybody fucking read it.
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about that now?
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 3: And knowing like it's you know, people have those like
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 3: shots and you look at that as part of like
• 2:58:34
  Speaker 3: your reputation.
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 2: You know something. I'm in a whoores business. I'm in
• 2:58:40
  Speaker 2: a ninety nine percent of the people that are in
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 2: my business of scumbag's, low lives and thieves. From day one,
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 2: they lie. From day one, they double saw I games,
• 2:58:50
  Speaker 2: they get half one side half another. From day one,
• 2:58:53
  Speaker 2: they book make They say, I know the book maker.
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 2: I'm good like. They'll say, can you bet one hundred
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 2: thousand on this game? No, I can only be ten thousand.
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 2: They'll give a number, which is them sitting right next
• 2:59:08
  Speaker 2: to themselves, the book maker. They change their voice, they
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 2: pick up the phone. They go, yeah, what the fuck
• 2:59:14
  Speaker 2: you want? Who fuck sent you? Fuck you? Yeah, yeah,
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 2: you want to bet one hundred thousand games? Send me
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 2: a quarter of a million? Yeah you got you got
• 2:59:23
  Speaker 2: a quote a million credit. You can bet up to
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 2: a quarter of a million. They send them money and
• 2:59:27
  Speaker 2: then they either lose, they give them a game for
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 2: the whole amount, and if they win the game, the
• 2:59:34
  Speaker 2: phone on it gets disconnected, and so does this guy's
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 2: phonema get disconnected. If they lose the game, it's a
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 2: wash and they just stole them on. So I've never
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 2: done any of that.
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 1: I don't do that.
• 2:59:47
  Speaker 2: So compare it to ninety nine point nine percent of
• 2:59:49
  Speaker 2: people in my industry, even when I was rolling in
• 2:59:52
  Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties. Like, let's say I've been squeaky,
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 2: squeaky clean since Squeaky Clean two thousand and one. Squeaky
• 3:00:06
  Speaker 2: you know, there is never because it's because the only
• 3:00:08
  Speaker 2: person you're dealing with is either me or my son Alex.
• 3:00:11
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's literally, it's the only people you'll ever
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 2: speak to. And uh, I never did that.
• 3:00:19
  Speaker 4: So basically like you're in a scumbag game, but you're
• 3:00:21
  Speaker 4: as you try to be as as good as possible
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 4: in this correct exactly exactly.
• 3:00:25
  Speaker 1: Oh he's a good scumbag.
• 3:00:27
  Speaker 2: But when I'm talking the eighties and night right now, now,
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 2: you go to jail, right, you go to jail. You
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 2: can't do that.
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 4: You know, there's no you've had the ability to like
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 4: hustle and sell and you know, manipulate the brain into
• 3:00:42
  Speaker 4: being able to sell, like get your product across?
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 1: Would me trust me?
• 3:00:46
  Speaker 2: Like I like? In other words, two years ago on
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 2: Barstool Sports devices, you know had I won the overall
• 3:00:52
  Speaker 2: record and I was fifteen wins, four losses, two ties
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 2: on my mortilocks. People set me money every week that
• 3:00:59
  Speaker 2: I know ever heard of that. I don't even know
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 2: who they are saying, Stu, I love you. I bet
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 2: your mortal wiz, Stu I want. I went in like
• 3:01:05
  Speaker 2: nine in a row, like and I was yelling about
• 3:01:08
  Speaker 2: it like so this year I was nine nine and
• 3:01:12
  Speaker 2: one on the Mortal Wocks, I mean not horrific, but
• 3:01:15
  Speaker 2: like on the overall games, I was fucking terrible, you know,
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 2: like forty terrible because uh, it just didn't work for me,
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 2: like like I told, like on Barcelo Sports Advices, the
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 2: public one sucker money one teams that had injuries. I
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 2: like the teams with the injuries. I like the inferior team.
• 3:01:37
  Speaker 2: I like the dog shit team. I like the team
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 2: that cannot win. I'm gonna be on that team. This
• 3:01:43
  Speaker 2: year didn't win. This year I looked like a full
• 3:01:46
  Speaker 2: certain times because the next day, I go, didn't you
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 2: know there was five injuries here? Didn't you know the quarterback?
• 3:01:52
  Speaker 2: You know whatever, But normally that worked for me. So
• 3:01:56
  Speaker 2: I've been doing this so long, Like I tease about it,
• 3:01:59
  Speaker 2: but I'm got. I measured my success by the decade,
• 3:02:02
  Speaker 2: not the week, month of year. You know, I didn't
• 3:02:05
  Speaker 2: roll off a turn up truck and all of a
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 2: sudden I'm stu finer, you know. Like in other words,
• 3:02:08
  Speaker 2: you know, people don't pay me millions of dollars a
• 3:02:10
  Speaker 2: year because I'm a fucking jerk off. They pay me
• 3:02:13
  Speaker 2: because they know in not only are their sons have
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 2: made money with me, but their fathers have made money
• 3:02:19
  Speaker 2: with me, and it could be going back to their grandfathers.
• 3:02:23
  Speaker 2: I have three generations. He's put on a masterclass, right
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 2: and have fucking gone through with me. Yeah, So in
• 3:02:29
  Speaker 2: other words, fuck yeah, it wasn't my best football year.
• 3:02:31
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's not gonna be my best basketball
• 3:02:33
  Speaker 2: year upcoming. But for I, you know, I did not
• 3:02:37
  Speaker 2: have a winning year. You know, I'm not afraid of that,
• 3:02:40
  Speaker 2: you know, doing this since nineteen eighty, not afraid of that,
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 2: not afraid of that. I've been fucking my my dick
• 3:02:46
  Speaker 2: has been on the line for forty four fucking years.
• 3:02:50
  Speaker 3: When you start betting, like how big of it would
• 3:02:53
  Speaker 3: your units get in your peak when you would go betting.
• 3:02:56
  Speaker 2: One hundred hundred and fifty thousand game. Really yeah, yeah,
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 2: getting my dick kicked, getting fucking hammered.
• 3:03:05
  Speaker 3: Why whenever you talk to a season gambler, it's always
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 3: like negative town, Like Big Cat Dave, all those guys
• 3:03:11
  Speaker 3: are like negative about gambler, But you still fucking do
• 3:03:13
  Speaker 3: it every day.
• 3:03:14
  Speaker 2: Well, because it's first of all, it's very competitive, like
• 3:03:19
  Speaker 2: like we spoke like I don't know if we were rolling,
• 3:03:21
  Speaker 2: but we spoke about Dave. Dave is one of the
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 2: smartest humans that have ever wonkeucking Earth. Dave has a
• 3:03:28
  Speaker 2: yiddishire cup, which you know means that he's so glib.
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 2: He could talk on any subject whether he knows anything
• 3:03:33
  Speaker 2: about it or not. Balls of Stone. His father was
• 3:03:37
  Speaker 2: a lawyer. He thinks like a lawyer. He thinks analytically.
• 3:03:41
  Speaker 2: He thinks he wants to back you into a corner.
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 2: See you can make a mistake and then he's the
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 2: greatest counter puncher ever. But the motherfucker is so competitive.
• 3:03:52
  Speaker 2: He got extremely lucky being born in Massachusetts. He caught
• 3:03:56
  Speaker 2: six fucking Super Bowls, he caught the Celtics Championships, he
• 3:04:01
  Speaker 2: caught the Boston Bruins Championships, he caught the Boston Red
• 3:04:07
  Speaker 2: Sox from jerkoffs and perennial losers to being arguably winning
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 2: the most fucking World Series in any team since two
• 3:04:17
  Speaker 2: thousand and four. So, in other words, he has so
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 2: much winning under his belt, and that motherfucker is so
• 3:04:23
  Speaker 2: competitive and the hardest thing in the world to do
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 2: is win money game. Big Cat big win. Very smart.
• 3:04:30
  Speaker 2: He looks like you know, plays the dummy role, plays
• 3:04:33
  Speaker 2: like Amadodo. You know that motherfucker is super smart. He
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 2: has a photographic memory. He knows everything about everything. He
• 3:04:40
  Speaker 2: never says he doesn't know unless he knows it, and
• 3:04:42
  Speaker 2: he fucking knows it. It's like, pft. Those guys are
• 3:04:45
  Speaker 2: scary smart. You think they just you know, two swinging dicks.
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 2: It's the reason that fucking you know they write three
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand a week on fucking Pardon Might
• 3:04:52
  Speaker 2: Take It's in on one podcast in the fucking world.
• 3:04:54
  Speaker 2: There's a reason that they're so fucking great. Big Cat
• 3:05:00
  Speaker 2: so competitive, hates to fucking lose. Hates to lose. It's
• 3:05:05
  Speaker 2: a detriment to anybody in life. I hate to fucking lose.
• 3:05:12
  Speaker 2: If I'm walking in an airport with Sandy and I
• 3:05:15
  Speaker 2: don't like the fucking person to my right, I'm going
• 3:05:17
  Speaker 2: on that fucking escalator before that. I don't give a
• 3:05:20
  Speaker 2: fuck if they're eighty years old, if they're fucking limping,
• 3:05:23
  Speaker 2: if they're crippled, if they're in a wheelchair, I just
• 3:05:26
  Speaker 2: fucking competitive. I'm fucking cutting them fucking off. It's a detriment.
• 3:05:31
  Speaker 2: I don't like to lose. So gamblers, especially successful men
• 3:05:38
  Speaker 2: and women who have either inherited money through death, accident, luck,
• 3:05:44
  Speaker 2: who have built their businesses up from nothing and now
• 3:05:46
  Speaker 2: are worth thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions Dave's case, hundreds
• 3:05:52
  Speaker 2: of millions. They don't back down. They don't fucking that
• 3:05:57
  Speaker 2: in any walk of life. They don't back down. Gambling
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 2: is unbeatable. That doesn't mean that these competitive people that
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 2: own seventy car lots and I'm making two million a week,
• 3:06:12
  Speaker 2: they go teammates playing Team b HO A fuck. Am
• 3:06:15
  Speaker 2: I not gonna be able to figure this fucking out.
• 3:06:18
  Speaker 2: I got a fifty percent shot. They don't realize, they don't.
• 3:06:21
  Speaker 2: They don't realize they don't. And that's really what it is.
• 3:06:25
  Speaker 2: I had a pamphlet that in nineteen ninety two, I
• 3:06:34
  Speaker 2: was sending a quarter of a million dollar, quarter of
• 3:06:36
  Speaker 2: a million pamphlets out every two weeks that gave the
• 3:06:41
  Speaker 2: schedule rotation of the games. It was called the Vegas Rotation.
• 3:06:46
  Speaker 2: The reason the schedule was critical if you're a gambler,
• 3:06:49
  Speaker 2: is I sent it to bookmakers, and then bookmakers sent
• 3:06:54
  Speaker 2: it to their clients because like on a Saturday, or
• 3:06:57
  Speaker 2: like on a Sunday, there's no fucking internet. How do
• 3:07:00
  Speaker 2: you know this? How do you know the schedule of
• 3:07:02
  Speaker 2: the games? So if you called the bookmaker in the
• 3:07:05
  Speaker 2: old days, eighties and nineties, is what you would hear.
• 3:07:08
  Speaker 2: I would go, uh stew one thirty one, all right,
• 3:07:11
  Speaker 2: ste lines of six Patriots of seven Steelers, A four,
• 3:07:16
  Speaker 2: uh nix the six and they would read it right
• 3:07:19
  Speaker 2: in a fucking row at the speed of light. Unless
• 3:07:21
  Speaker 2: you have the schedule, which was called the Las Vegas rotation,
• 3:07:25
  Speaker 2: you're fucking dead. You have no idea. So you would
• 3:07:28
  Speaker 2: have to write the lines in the book. So I
• 3:07:31
  Speaker 2: had the book, so I used to inundate the advertising
• 3:07:35
  Speaker 2: with my nine hundred numbers and my eight hundred ads.
• 3:07:40
  Speaker 2: So offshore sports books were opened in nineteen ninety. First time,
• 3:07:49
  Speaker 2: first time you could bet orf sure, first time you
• 3:07:53
  Speaker 2: had any shot. Besides local bookmakers, the only place that
• 3:07:58
  Speaker 2: you could advertise nationwide would be an Orferra sports bok
• 3:08:01
  Speaker 2: Dave Buden opened a place in Panama called s d
• 3:08:10
  Speaker 2: B Global and it and it stood in it UH.
• 3:08:15
  Speaker 2: The initials were for here. Dave Steve Budden Okay opened
• 3:08:20
  Speaker 2: a place in Panama, and Panamanian government stole four million
• 3:08:25
  Speaker 2: dollars from him, put a gun in his fucking head
• 3:08:27
  Speaker 2: and said get the fuck out of town. And they
• 3:08:29
  Speaker 2: just robbed his fucking money. They literally said we're not
• 3:08:32
  Speaker 2: letting you. Just get the fuck out. They moved to
• 3:08:35
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica. They're about to go out of business in
• 3:08:39
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica because they cannot figure out how to advertise
• 3:08:43
  Speaker 2: the newspapers, the TV will not allow ads. In the
• 3:08:47
  Speaker 2: United States. I put a half page ad for Budden
• 3:08:54
  Speaker 2: in my pamphlet and he wrote fourteen million dollars the
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 2: first year off of my end. The offshore of sportsbook
• 3:09:03
  Speaker 2: business was started by me was started by me. What
• 3:09:08
  Speaker 2: do you mean by started by you, there would have
• 3:09:11
  Speaker 2: been no offshore fucking sportsbook business. Because he was the
• 3:09:13
  Speaker 2: first person there got thrown out of Panama, so everybody
• 3:09:16
  Speaker 2: heard about it. They were not going over there. And
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 2: then he went to Costa Rica and he was the
• 3:09:21
  Speaker 2: first and he was the first big business. He was
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 2: the first sports book, the number one sports book where
• 3:09:26
  Speaker 2: people in this country.
• 3:09:28
  Speaker 1: He basically got connected with him, called him.
• 3:09:31
  Speaker 2: For illegally can send money offshore and you couldet and
• 3:09:36
  Speaker 2: that was the first big offsho of sports book. So
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 2: I used to make money on advertised. I advertised for him,
• 3:09:42
  Speaker 2: and he also advertised on my score phones. So I
• 3:09:45
  Speaker 2: was like the first to really push your show of
• 3:09:48
  Speaker 2: sports books. I was the first to get it off
• 3:09:51
  Speaker 2: the fucking ground and then eventually became like mainstream. But
• 3:09:55
  Speaker 2: then he eventually got arrested and he had to he
• 3:09:59
  Speaker 2: had to sell us everything, and you know, he didn't
• 3:10:01
  Speaker 2: go to jail, but he had to pay like some
• 3:10:03
  Speaker 2: exorbit like four million dollar fine and then he eventually,
• 3:10:07
  Speaker 2: uh he passed away. He was a good guy.
• 3:10:10
  Speaker 1: Did you know he was going down?
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 2: Uh No, he called me one day because because he
• 3:10:15
  Speaker 2: said he goes he because he used to have his
• 3:10:21
  Speaker 2: lawyers told him it was legal as long as he
• 3:10:24
  Speaker 2: followed the money laundering laws. You weren't allowed to money launder.
• 3:10:30
  Speaker 2: He thought it was legal. So all the money he made,
• 3:10:33
  Speaker 2: the way he got caught was he paid taxes on
• 3:10:35
  Speaker 2: it back into this country, lived in Miami, paid taxes
• 3:10:40
  Speaker 2: on it, made like ten million back to back ten million,
• 3:10:43
  Speaker 2: ten million, and then they arrested him because you weren't
• 3:10:45
  Speaker 2: allowed to be a book maker.
• 3:10:47
  Speaker 3: You literally weren't allowed to be a book So he
• 3:10:49
  Speaker 3: was actually trying to do it the right way.
• 3:10:51
  Speaker 2: I got said he and he got fucking nailed. If
• 3:10:54
  Speaker 2: he left all the money in Coustorc, they wouldn't even
• 3:10:56
  Speaker 2: fucking know he brought it back and paid taxes on it.
• 3:11:00
  Speaker 3: That's fucking nuts with a two for the money. Yes,
• 3:11:04
  Speaker 3: So how does is what process of how you?
• 3:11:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get to know that, Okay. So during my
• 3:11:10
  Speaker 2: nine hundred number reign from nineteen ninety to ninety five,
• 3:11:14
  Speaker 2: I had a lot of people that work for me
• 3:11:18
  Speaker 2: that were quality score phone announcers and good enough handicappers
• 3:11:25
  Speaker 2: that they fed these nine hundred numbers. One of the
• 3:11:30
  Speaker 2: kids that work for me, Brandon link.
• 3:11:34
  Speaker 1: Link l I n K.
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 2: He worked for me, and he was my top guy.
• 3:11:40
  Speaker 2: I had a nine hundred eighty six oh thirty to ten,
• 3:11:43
  Speaker 2: and then I had a nine hundred and eighty six
• 3:11:45
  Speaker 2: H three L three H. So I had a twenty
• 3:11:47
  Speaker 2: five dollar number that wrote three million dollars a year,
• 3:11:50
  Speaker 2: and then I had a fifty dollar number that I
• 3:11:52
  Speaker 2: bumped to that wrote two million dollars a year. He
• 3:11:55
  Speaker 2: wrote about two and a half million. Then I had
• 3:11:58
  Speaker 2: like another eight people work for me that wrote like
• 3:12:01
  Speaker 2: two million combined. So he was the best of the rest,
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 2: not me, because I was too finer, and I won
• 3:12:10
  Speaker 2: a lot at that time, Thank god, he went into
• 3:12:16
  Speaker 2: a horrific losing streak. I'm talking ten percent for nine months.
• 3:12:26
  Speaker 2: So I said, Brandon, you're a great salesman, you have
• 3:12:30
  Speaker 2: a great articulate voice. I'm gonna have my brother in
• 3:12:35
  Speaker 2: law give you the games and you're gonna feed them
• 3:12:39
  Speaker 2: on your numbers. And that worked for about three months,
• 3:12:45
  Speaker 2: and then when the business quadrupled because Kevin was winning,
• 3:12:51
  Speaker 2: Brandon lost his fucking mind. So had what a a
• 3:12:55
  Speaker 2: Porsie time nine hundred king on license plates role. So
• 3:13:01
  Speaker 2: one day come to the office and he was like
• 3:13:04
  Speaker 2: my best buddy. People hated him because he hung with me.
• 3:13:08
  Speaker 2: He went every day, he hung with me, went to
• 3:13:10
  Speaker 2: all the sporting events with me, went to Super Bowls,
• 3:13:14
  Speaker 2: went to Broadway, ate out to dinner every day. At
• 3:13:19
  Speaker 2: my house, the salesman upstairs were on the phone pounding away.
• 3:13:25
  Speaker 2: So downstairs we have two satellites and five TVs in
• 3:13:27
  Speaker 2: my office. In nineteen eighty seven, think about that. Nineteen
• 3:13:31
  Speaker 2: eighty seven, Bars didn't even have it. I had two
• 3:13:33
  Speaker 2: satellites on the roof. To get the NFC games, you
• 3:13:35
  Speaker 2: had to have one satellite. To get the APEC games,
• 3:13:37
  Speaker 2: you had to have another. And I was way ahead
• 3:13:40
  Speaker 2: of my time, state of the art. So he would
• 3:13:42
  Speaker 2: literally hang out with me and watch the games. And
• 3:13:45
  Speaker 2: he was best friends with my brother, and they would
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 2: fuck whores and they would do a lot of things.
• 3:13:50
  Speaker 2: So he gets pissed and he writes this long letter
• 3:13:55
  Speaker 2: to me, and he gives me the Rowles back and says, listen,
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 2: I was fucking bullshit, made you a ton of fucking money.
• 3:14:03
  Speaker 2: How is your boy? You fucked me? Blah blah, leaves
• 3:14:07
  Speaker 2: me goat that was nineteen ninety five, goes to like Australia,
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 2: for two weeks, then comes back and he's both broke.
• 3:14:21
  Speaker 2: He caties at the River Era Country Club. I'm trying
• 3:14:27
  Speaker 2: to get ahold of them. Can't find him, no matter
• 3:14:30
  Speaker 2: what I do. Can't find the fucking guy. Can't get
• 3:14:32
  Speaker 2: a whole of them. Detectives, friends, given fifty grand cash.
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 2: Find this fucking guy. I want him to come back
• 3:14:39
  Speaker 2: to work for me, because he left me in ninety five.
• 3:14:42
  Speaker 2: He set up someone to take over his spot, and
• 3:14:48
  Speaker 2: ninety five I wrote eleven million, ninety six, fourteen million,
• 3:14:54
  Speaker 2: ninety seven to sixteen million. So in the letter, he says,
• 3:14:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not fucking you. You're well set to go on
• 3:14:59
  Speaker 2: your You're never gonna miss me, but I can't work
• 3:15:03
  Speaker 2: for you no more. And he was right, but now
• 3:15:06
  Speaker 2: I'm killing It's all like, let me get a hold
• 3:15:08
  Speaker 2: of this fune. Yeah I can't find him, and yeah,
• 3:15:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't even make this fuck it up.
• 3:15:16
  Speaker 2: So I have like two hundred and twenty film part
• 3:15:19
  Speaker 2: time people working for me. It's before the Internet killed me.
• 3:15:22
  Speaker 2: It's before the nine hundred numbers went in the toilet,
• 3:15:24
  Speaker 2: seventy five percent chargebacks, before I had to borrow money
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 2: and go into bankrupt not bankruptcy, but you know, destitute
• 3:15:29
  Speaker 2: for seven years and can't paid a mortgage. Why do
• 3:15:33
  Speaker 2: My salesman comes down and goes, you're not gonna believe this.
• 3:15:37
  Speaker 2: My cousin owns a security firm an Arizona and to
• 3:15:42
  Speaker 2: keep proparazzis away from stars. And Dustin Hoffman and Renee
• 3:15:47
  Speaker 2: Russo are riding horses in Arizona at the Grand Canyon
• 3:15:51
  Speaker 2: and they over hear Dustin open say, I'm playing this
• 3:15:54
  Speaker 2: Jewish guy Stu Finer in New York in a movie
• 3:15:58
  Speaker 2: instead a salesman. Don't be a fa Get the fuck here,
• 3:16:00
  Speaker 2: you jerk off. What are you out of your fucking you?
• 3:16:02
  Speaker 1: Do you? I mean?
• 3:16:02
  Speaker 2: Are you fucking Is this a joke? He goes. I
• 3:16:06
  Speaker 2: swear to fucking God. Renee Russeo's husband, Danny Gilroy wrote
• 3:16:11
  Speaker 2: the screenplay, and I swear to God there's no mistake here.
• 3:16:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, get me fucking Danny Gilroy's number. Guy gets
• 3:16:20
  Speaker 2: me Danny Gilroy's number, called Danny Gilroy on the phone.
• 3:16:23
  Speaker 2: Rene Russo's husband, I go listen to you, low life cocksucker, motherfucker.
• 3:16:27
  Speaker 2: I'll fuck your wife on fucking National TV. Who the
• 3:16:32
  Speaker 2: fuck you to play to fucking write a movie about
• 3:16:34
  Speaker 2: fucking me. I'll sue your cocksucking balls and I hang
• 3:16:37
  Speaker 2: up the phone. Leave my number. Call me. I am,
• 3:16:41
  Speaker 2: I am telling you. One minute later, Brandon calls me
• 3:16:46
  Speaker 2: after two years, can't find a kid still, What are
• 3:16:49
  Speaker 2: you doing? You can't threaten Danny Gilroy. You're gonna blow
• 3:16:53
  Speaker 2: the whole thing up. Blow what thing up? Asshole? And
• 3:16:56
  Speaker 2: he tells me the whole story. He Caddiedne. He caddied
• 3:17:01
  Speaker 2: Danny Gilroy Renee Russo's husband, and Dustin Hoffman at the
• 3:17:06
  Speaker 2: River Over a country club. He lined Danny Gilroy up
• 3:17:09
  Speaker 2: for a fifty foot pot that he sang. Dustin Hoffman
• 3:17:14
  Speaker 2: on the spot gave him twenty thousand dollars because during
• 3:17:17
  Speaker 2: the eighteen Holes, he pitched his story about him working
• 3:17:21
  Speaker 2: for me. I go, well, listen, there's no fucking way
• 3:17:26
  Speaker 2: you're gonna do this without me. He goes, I'll come
• 3:17:28
  Speaker 2: back to work for you and we'll make it happen.
• 3:17:33
  Speaker 2: He came back to work for me as if he
• 3:17:35
  Speaker 2: never stopped, became a superstar again working for me. Sits
• 3:17:41
  Speaker 2: on Dustin Hoffman's desk ninety eight, ninety nine, two thousand
• 3:17:46
  Speaker 2: and two thousand and one, hands it back, says, I
• 3:17:49
  Speaker 2: can't do the project. Danny Gilroy, Renee Russo, Shop the
• 3:17:53
  Speaker 2: fucking thing two thousand and two, three four, two thousand
• 3:17:57
  Speaker 2: and five. Jim Robinson that owned Morgan Creek Production, Last
• 3:18:04
  Speaker 2: House on the Box finally says, let's do the movie,
• 3:18:06
  Speaker 2: and they got Dustin Hoffman. They out totally out. They
• 3:18:10
  Speaker 2: got al Pacino to play me, Matthew McConaughey to play Brandon,
• 3:18:14
  Speaker 2: Renee Russo to play Sandy, Jeremy Piven to play my
• 3:18:19
  Speaker 2: brother in law, Kevin Duffy that ran the fucking place,
• 3:18:22
  Speaker 2: and the customer that we took for a ton of
• 3:18:25
  Speaker 2: money was a mon de sante. And in the movie,
• 3:18:29
  Speaker 2: they made me sign off all the rights and everything.
• 3:18:32
  Speaker 2: The sports advisors in that movie al Pacina, Matthew McConaughey,
• 3:18:35
  Speaker 2: and Jeremy Pipper on my TV show, So two weeks
• 3:18:40
  Speaker 2: before the movie fucking airs all the sudden, Brandon says, fuck,
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 2: you're not letting me in al Pacina. Wasn't you what
• 3:18:52
  Speaker 2: do you mean? It was? It me? It's my movie.
• 3:18:54
  Speaker 2: I fucking signed off. This is my fucking TV show.
• 3:18:57
  Speaker 2: He does not let me do all the interviews that
• 3:18:59
  Speaker 2: he does. At the time, I went partners with Dave
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 2: Boudin's son, Steve Budden. He became a total drug addict,
• 3:19:08
  Speaker 2: lost all his fucking money, and he was some entitled
• 3:19:11
  Speaker 2: fucking scumbag. Really, the worst of the worst, to your face,
• 3:19:15
  Speaker 2: would hug you, kiss you, and then try to fuck
• 3:19:17
  Speaker 2: your wife behind your back. You know, the biggest thief ever,
• 3:19:20
  Speaker 2: which is most of the time what happens when the
• 3:19:22
  Speaker 2: father has money or your family has money, and then
• 3:19:25
  Speaker 2: the son is just fucking you know, he's married into
• 3:19:28
  Speaker 2: it and like he thinks he's nick Shock, he's got
• 3:19:30
  Speaker 2: his father whatever to do whatever. And it wasn't all
• 3:19:35
  Speaker 2: ugly with Steve Buden because he got sportsbook dot Com
• 3:19:39
  Speaker 2: and sports dot Com. He got million dollar deals for
• 3:19:43
  Speaker 2: me to advertise on my score phones. When I bought
• 3:19:46
  Speaker 2: the scorephones from Jerry McConn. That went bad. So it
• 3:19:51
  Speaker 2: isn't like all bad. He didn't fuck me totally, but
• 3:19:53
  Speaker 2: he eventually fucked me. So and then he goes into
• 3:19:58
  Speaker 2: business where Brandon and Fox Brandon because he says to me, STU,
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 2: don't worry about it. We set up a website for Brandon.
• 3:20:06
  Speaker 2: We changed Brandon's name to Brandon Lang dot com. And
• 3:20:09
  Speaker 2: at the time, I went into the Internet and I
• 3:20:11
  Speaker 2: started doing really good with websites. So Steve comes to
• 3:20:15
  Speaker 2: me and says, let's split Brandon run. We're gonna take
• 3:20:19
  Speaker 2: every customer that advertises and pays Brandon Lang, and we're
• 3:20:24
  Speaker 2: gonna just push a bit to stewfinder dot com and
• 3:20:26
  Speaker 2: all these other websites we own. So we use Brandon's
• 3:20:29
  Speaker 2: site as a lost leader Brandon Avenue, and we took
• 3:20:31
  Speaker 2: all the customers. So I made like six million dollars
• 3:20:34
  Speaker 2: off of it and forever. Eventually Brandon came around, and
• 3:20:38
  Speaker 2: eventually Steve wrote a book and said, yeah, of course,
• 3:20:41
  Speaker 2: Apputuna was find It And the movie was a scruntled
• 3:20:44
  Speaker 2: employees standpoint on work of for Sue. You know, that
• 3:20:48
  Speaker 2: was fucking what happened with the movie. So that's the
• 3:20:51
  Speaker 2: whole movie story in a nutshellan Well, I'm gonna watch
• 3:20:55
  Speaker 2: that night.
• 3:20:55
  Speaker 4: God, it's a good one because basically it's because it's
• 3:20:58
  Speaker 4: Brandon Lang in the movie, right. Brandon Link is Brandon Lang, right,
• 3:21:02
  Speaker 4: and it's it feels like the hiccup of him going
• 3:21:07
  Speaker 4: on this dry spell and then your brother in law
• 3:21:10
  Speaker 4: making forcing him to give brand into the picks and
• 3:21:12
  Speaker 4: he had to do and then you you know, hit
• 3:21:14
  Speaker 4: it big and he got pissed off and left. They
• 3:21:16
  Speaker 4: more so made it about getting too close with the family,
• 3:21:19
  Speaker 4: getting closer to your wife, you thinking that the cheating
• 3:21:21
  Speaker 4: things going on. And then that's why he writes a letter,
• 3:21:23
  Speaker 4: gives the role X back and all the watch and
• 3:21:25
  Speaker 4: everything else, because it's like, hey, we're we're both going
• 3:21:28
  Speaker 4: down a bad way. Al Pacino's going down a bad way,
• 3:21:31
  Speaker 4: trying to do private you know, all this stuff. Not
• 3:21:33
  Speaker 4: trying to like ruin the movie, but correct, it's really
• 3:21:37
  Speaker 4: it's awesome.
• 3:21:37
  Speaker 1: You'll really like it.
• 3:21:38
  Speaker 2: The scene in the movie in the restaurant, that restaurant,
• 3:21:44
  Speaker 2: what I think he fucks Jamie King I think her name.
• 3:21:46
  Speaker 1: Is where al Pacino sets that up? No, no, no, no, no, no, he.
• 3:21:53
  Speaker 2: Fucked this girl in in this restaurant. Well, I don't
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 2: remember how it was played in the movie.
• 3:21:57
  Speaker 4: Where at where in the movie Brandon thinks it's him
• 3:22:00
  Speaker 4: gaming her up, But really al Pacino said that.
• 3:22:02
  Speaker 2: Up right, Okay, what really happened? It was it was
• 3:22:05
  Speaker 2: a restaurant called Nanny Ilvalletto sixty first between lex and Park. Yeah,
• 3:22:10
  Speaker 2: the two restaurants we ran in is that restaurant and
• 3:22:12
  Speaker 2: Smith Lenski's. We went there almost every night with twenty people.
• 3:22:17
  Speaker 2: I'm spending like sixty eight thousand a night on dinner,
• 3:22:21
  Speaker 2: like because I had unlimited money and I didn't have
• 3:22:24
  Speaker 2: the Yeah, I was never good with saving it. And
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 2: I live like I'm gonna die tomorrow. It's how I
• 3:22:29
  Speaker 2: do it. It's not a great way to be it's
• 3:22:31
  Speaker 2: not a great way to be married to me or
• 3:22:33
  Speaker 2: whatever of financial advisors, but that's how I do it.
• 3:22:35
  Speaker 2: So you know, like if I died at thirty, I
• 3:22:38
  Speaker 2: had a great life. So I'm living like I'm gonna
• 3:22:40
  Speaker 2: be sixty three. January thirty first, same birthday's PFT day
• 3:22:45
  Speaker 2: before Big Cats January thirtieth. And then Craig Cotton is
• 3:22:49
  Speaker 2: January thirty first, and Josh whatever that Josh the uh
• 3:22:53
  Speaker 2: who's the kid that does BFF with Josh Richards is
• 3:22:56
  Speaker 2: January thirty first. His birthday's the same as Oz too.
• 3:22:59
  Speaker 2: But so I got sick. I got thirty three years
• 3:23:02
  Speaker 2: of a role that I never thought I was gonna happen.
• 3:23:04
  Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna die at thirty because I
• 3:23:06
  Speaker 2: just had the perfect life. You know, I could deal
• 3:23:09
  Speaker 2: with losing money gambling, I could deal with the sit downs,
• 3:23:11
  Speaker 2: I could deal with all the craziness because I just
• 3:23:14
  Speaker 2: had so much fun, you know what I mean, Like,
• 3:23:16
  Speaker 2: no one had as much fun. You couldn't have as
• 3:23:18
  Speaker 2: much fun as I did. You couldn't bring an entourage
• 3:23:22
  Speaker 2: forever everywhere every night, like I hit the super Bowl
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 2: every night for almost thirty fucking years. But Brandon, what
• 3:23:33
  Speaker 2: was the point with that?
• 3:23:34
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I just I was just saying it looked
• 3:23:36
  Speaker 4: like some of the Hollywood they made it more about
• 3:23:38
  Speaker 4: the white situation than the other words.
• 3:23:40
  Speaker 2: The movie is specifically seventy percent fake, thirty percentury, like
• 3:23:46
  Speaker 2: every Hollywood movie. But it really is how Brandon felt,
• 3:23:50
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He is a disgruntled employees
• 3:23:54
  Speaker 2: standpoint on him working.
• 3:23:57
  Speaker 1: For me, on him thinking he's coming up, he's the
• 3:23:59
  Speaker 1: real one. He's at her, but the.
• 3:24:02
  Speaker 2: Games from him away. That was his only contention. Nothing else, YEA,
• 3:24:07
  Speaker 2: my only like. And then he used to like Brandon
• 3:24:11
  Speaker 2: used to get food for the office upstairs, which he
• 3:24:14
  Speaker 2: thought was beneath him. So one day we get a
• 3:24:19
  Speaker 2: tcby order and Brandon is getting the order, and my
• 3:24:22
  Speaker 2: brother comes down and says, Kevin Wan should go upstairs
• 3:24:25
  Speaker 2: and get the order. And Brandon was like, fucking get
• 3:24:30
  Speaker 2: the order, and what my brother cracks him across the
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 2: face and moves his nose from here to here. He
• 3:24:37
  Speaker 2: still has problems with his nose. So of course we
• 3:24:39
  Speaker 2: go to the hospital. The doctors are going, you got
• 3:24:43
  Speaker 2: to soothe this fucking guy right now. You could put
• 3:24:46
  Speaker 2: him in jail. This you're gonna problemse here for the
• 3:24:48
  Speaker 2: rest of your life. You're gonna eat surgery, You're not
• 3:24:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to breathe right. And I'm listen to this,
• 3:24:53
  Speaker 2: and I fucking call my guy up. I said, you
• 3:24:57
  Speaker 2: better get to this fucking place quick because we've got
• 3:24:59
  Speaker 2: an issue here. So he tells Brandon on the fucking table,
• 3:25:04
  Speaker 2: you fucking you've broken nose, the last fucking problem you're
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 2: gonna fucking have. Thank God, because my brother would have
• 3:25:11
  Speaker 2: gone to jail definitely.
• 3:25:14
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, you've had to make a couple of calls
• 3:25:16
  Speaker 1: over your during your time.
• 3:25:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've had to make like forty calls that I
• 3:25:19
  Speaker 2: can't tell any of them. That's the only soft one
• 3:25:21
  Speaker 2: I can tell. Yeah, I've made a lot of calls.
• 3:25:23
  Speaker 1: You can make calls till I have no choice.
• 3:25:26
  Speaker 2: I've made a lot of things, yeah, a lot of
• 3:25:28
  Speaker 2: really disgusting, ugly like holy fuck, Like how how can
• 3:25:32
  Speaker 2: you deliver it yourself? And you do what you gotta do?
• 3:25:35
  Speaker 2: You know, certain ship gets scary. You know, I put
• 3:25:38
  Speaker 2: myself in some bad spots. But it is what it is,
• 3:25:44
  Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is.
• 3:25:46
  Speaker 1: A line, right, how do you feel like you're your outlook?
• 3:25:50
  Speaker 4: You know, principles, philosophy, whatever's changed since those times were
• 3:25:54
  Speaker 4: all of this stuff basically.
• 3:25:56
  Speaker 2: Like in other words, I haven't insane attitude of gratitude.
• 3:26:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because the way you are like embracing the positivity,
• 3:26:06
  Speaker 4: the way that people understand Stu Finer in the barstool
• 3:26:08
  Speaker 4: sports world. It also sounds like it's a very different
• 3:26:11
  Speaker 4: Stufiner that is in this world of gambling, the mafias,
• 3:26:15
  Speaker 4: the everything else.
• 3:26:15
  Speaker 1: Like I've had, I've had.
• 3:26:16
  Speaker 2: Twenty years, almost thirty years removed from that. Think about
• 3:26:23
  Speaker 2: that most of the stoolies, most of my peers weren't
• 3:26:28
  Speaker 2: even born yet. Well, we're young, Like I'm the oldest stoolie.
• 3:26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be sixty three. You know, I don't Act
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 2: sixty three, Act like I'm fucking twenty three. But so
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 2: I have an extreme attitude of gratitude. I have insane
• 3:26:43
  Speaker 2: wisdom due to failure after failure after failure. To never
• 3:26:48
  Speaker 2: lose your enthusiasm. You know, I have an overall scope
• 3:26:51
  Speaker 2: on gambling where kids call me all the time that
• 3:26:56
  Speaker 2: like my business is the hardest business in the world,
• 3:27:00
  Speaker 2: because it is it. Like I ever get people, STU,
• 3:27:04
  Speaker 2: I want to pay you never gambled in my life.
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 2: This is the first time. Let's go. I never get that.
• 3:27:11
  Speaker 2: Never I get train wrecks. STU. I'm stuck Xyz, STU.
• 3:27:19
  Speaker 2: I got murdered at a min a really bad spot. STU.
• 3:27:23
  Speaker 3: I lost money.
• 3:27:25
  Speaker 2: I did not have my first thing, I say to them,
• 3:27:28
  Speaker 2: which is so counter productive for my businesses. Hey, listen,
• 3:27:33
  Speaker 2: gamblings for the rich stout fund lose money. I mean,
• 3:27:36
  Speaker 2: you're fucking a psycho. How about going to gambles anonymous,
• 3:27:39
  Speaker 2: don't ruin your fucking life. I don't need your money now.
• 3:27:42
  Speaker 2: I went to said that when I was in my twenties,
• 3:27:45
  Speaker 2: and I say it for the last fifteen years. So
• 3:27:49
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to dig someone out of a hole and
• 3:27:52
  Speaker 2: they're putting me in a spot that I gonna win
• 3:27:56
  Speaker 2: right fucking now, and that's impossible. That's impossible. There's no
• 3:28:03
  Speaker 2: way to help someone. If all I ever did was
• 3:28:07
  Speaker 2: get someone from scratch, I could manage a bankroll. I
• 3:28:11
  Speaker 2: can understand the whole thing. I got a shot. I
• 3:28:14
  Speaker 2: got no shot. These people are already destroyed. They're hammered
• 3:28:18
  Speaker 2: because people on their own think they could win, and
• 3:28:21
  Speaker 2: then people chase thinking they could win. Then they're gonna
• 3:28:24
  Speaker 2: ask their dog, their mother, their father, the banker who
• 3:28:28
  Speaker 2: they like, and they're gonna bet those games. Then they're
• 3:28:30
  Speaker 2: gonna watch some fucking jerkwof shows and they're gonna get
• 3:28:34
  Speaker 2: hammered again. You can't go on any sports channel right
• 3:28:38
  Speaker 2: now and not get a handicapper or an analyst that's
• 3:28:43
  Speaker 2: played the game that's literally staring at you telling you
• 3:28:48
  Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. Now, he's not telling you to bet
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 2: on it, but he's so confident in his analysis that
• 3:28:55
  Speaker 2: you do bet on it, and then you get hammered,
• 3:28:57
  Speaker 2: and then they fucking come to me gonna do I mean,
• 3:29:01
  Speaker 2: you're already dead. So it's a really tough tough business. Now,
• 3:29:07
  Speaker 2: I do get people who have unlimited money, trust fund people,
• 3:29:13
  Speaker 2: people that are responsible. I do get them. But that's
• 3:29:18
  Speaker 2: like twenty percent of my business. Eighty percent of my
• 3:29:21
  Speaker 2: business is train wrecks that I pray to God I
• 3:29:27
  Speaker 2: can get hot tonight for the guy because half of
• 3:29:31
  Speaker 2: the people go, listen, I got one shot, I got this.
• 3:29:34
  Speaker 2: I'm dead if you don't win, and I'm losing for
• 3:29:38
  Speaker 2: that guy forty percent. I'm losing for that situation, guaranteed
• 3:29:42
  Speaker 2: forty percent of a time, guaranteed sixty percent is insane winning.
• 3:29:48
  Speaker 2: That's inhuman winning. Now you're put in a position where
• 3:29:52
  Speaker 2: you're in a fucking out you have to win. So
• 3:29:54
  Speaker 2: it's a really tough business. So my point of my attitude, dude,
• 3:30:00
  Speaker 2: is that my experience being on this earth so long.
• 3:30:04
  Speaker 2: I'm a father afore, I'm a husband being. You know,
• 3:30:08
  Speaker 2: no matter what I performatively talk about my body count
• 3:30:11
  Speaker 2: and who I you know, I'm married to the same
• 3:30:13
  Speaker 2: fucking girl a ten years of the day. I got
• 3:30:15
  Speaker 2: no prenuptial I am not a fucking really good looking
• 3:30:18
  Speaker 2: at all. I don't have a big dick. I do
• 3:30:21
  Speaker 2: eat ass and and eat pussy. I'm great at it.
• 3:30:23
  Speaker 2: But you know, nobody's going, Wow, I'm gonna fuck that guy.
• 3:30:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm with one person. You know what I mean,
• 3:30:28
  Speaker 2: I'm really that's who I am. You know, I'm a father,
• 3:30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm a husband, and I have a lot of knowledge
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 2: because of my failures and my psycho bad experiences, so
• 3:30:39
  Speaker 2: that most people's life suck. That's the cold, hard reality
• 3:30:45
  Speaker 2: of life. Life is. Life is very hard, very difficult.
• 3:30:51
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 3:30:54
  Speaker 2: Painful. So what I try to do is give a
• 3:30:57
  Speaker 2: little brevity to gambling, brevity to life, be super nice
• 3:31:03
  Speaker 2: to people. I help the less fortunate. I do so
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 2: much that I will no one will ever know, including
• 3:31:11
  Speaker 2: my wife, what I do for people because I was
• 3:31:13
  Speaker 2: taught in the overt is anonymous rooms when I went there,
• 3:31:16
  Speaker 2: because I was two sixty two and I got down
• 3:31:19
  Speaker 2: to one thirty nine because of the rooms, they taught
• 3:31:21
  Speaker 2: me what to do. They taught me. I'm eating over
• 3:31:23
  Speaker 2: my feelings and problems of feelings, so that I know
• 3:31:29
  Speaker 2: how hard life is and that most people do not
• 3:31:34
  Speaker 2: ever catch breaks. Most people have an unsatisfied life. So
• 3:31:40
  Speaker 2: I try to tell people to be great, take no
• 3:31:42
  Speaker 2: shit from no one. You can do it. But like
• 3:31:45
  Speaker 2: in other words, the reason I was successful, first of all,
• 3:31:49
  Speaker 2: I was with the same girl. She's my bookkeeper. Her
• 3:31:51
  Speaker 2: father worked for me, her brother in law work for me,
• 3:31:54
  Speaker 2: her two sisters work for me. So I was married
• 3:31:56
  Speaker 2: into that right, that's number one. And they helped me tremendously.
• 3:32:00
  Speaker 2: So I didn't stray like I could have. Like she's
• 3:32:03
  Speaker 2: been with me to all the sporting events, she's been
• 3:32:05
  Speaker 2: with me to all the craziness. She's there. That is invaluable.
• 3:32:09
  Speaker 2: That's number one. Otherwise I would have crashed and burned.
• 3:32:11
  Speaker 2: No to ways about it. It's not a fucking you know,
• 3:32:14
  Speaker 2: I would have had babies and I would have got sued,
• 3:32:16
  Speaker 2: who knows whatever. But the point is that I was
• 3:32:22
  Speaker 2: taught that you have to help the less fortunate and
• 3:32:26
  Speaker 2: never get found out you can't. You can't say I
• 3:32:29
  Speaker 2: did this for someone look at me, because it doesn't count.
• 3:32:34
  Speaker 2: It doesn't count. So your my plight in life, my
• 3:32:39
  Speaker 2: reality of life is that I fucking am I want
• 3:32:43
  Speaker 2: to treat the garbage man the same way I'll treat
• 3:32:45
  Speaker 2: I walk into that fucking barstool, New York office, first
• 3:32:50
  Speaker 2: New York office, second, Chicago, I say hello to everyone,
• 3:32:54
  Speaker 2: I look everyone in the eye, I shake everyone's hand.
• 3:32:57
  Speaker 2: I don't remember half of their fucking names. But I
• 3:33:00
  Speaker 2: make sure that I say hello and I look at
• 3:33:02
  Speaker 2: me on and they know that I am real and
• 3:33:09
  Speaker 2: they can rely on me, because, as you know, you
• 3:33:13
  Speaker 2: guys get the world by the bulls. You were gifted
• 3:33:15
  Speaker 2: with such intelligence, you can articulate, you have insane social skills,
• 3:33:22
  Speaker 2: you have an insane reputation, and you were phenomenal athletes.
• 3:33:27
  Speaker 2: No one has that, you know, no one really has that.
• 3:33:30
  Speaker 2: That's why you are who you guys are. You know,
• 3:33:32
  Speaker 2: I got the ability. I bounced back from tragedy and
• 3:33:36
  Speaker 2: circumstances that should have taken me out so many times.
• 3:33:39
  Speaker 2: If I made the wrong step certain times, if I
• 3:33:42
  Speaker 2: went like certain times, I was late to certain situations
• 3:33:47
  Speaker 2: that fourteen people died. I should have been there. I
• 3:33:51
  Speaker 2: was not there. I could have been smacked around with
• 3:33:54
  Speaker 2: my partners when mafia came after, I was not there.
• 3:33:58
  Speaker 2: I got sued by the NFL. That could have gone
• 3:34:01
  Speaker 2: so bad and so wrong. I went bankrupt, not bankrupt,
• 3:34:06
  Speaker 2: but I was balls broke. I didn't pay my mortgage
• 3:34:08
  Speaker 2: for four years. They didn't come after me. Somehow I
• 3:34:11
  Speaker 2: was able to just constantly talk on the phone every
• 3:34:13
  Speaker 2: month to the people. I'm gonna make it happen. I'm
• 3:34:15
  Speaker 2: not gonna beat you. I'm living here and i'm you know,
• 3:34:18
  Speaker 2: playing the game. Outwardly, everything's okay. Inwardly, I'm fucking dying.
• 3:34:22
  Speaker 2: Then I got a fucking modification and on my mortgage
• 3:34:27
  Speaker 2: and I went there the next month for another three
• 3:34:30
  Speaker 2: fucking years, and I was able to pull it off.
• 3:34:33
  Speaker 2: So I had a six hundred and fifty thousand dollars mortgage.
• 3:34:35
  Speaker 2: They put like a million one on Twitter. It was
• 3:34:38
  Speaker 2: like a million seven. Right now, I owe like twelve
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 2: payments left. I own the fucking house. Take a two
• 3:34:44
  Speaker 2: million dollar house? Can I get it? I don't know how.
• 3:34:47
  Speaker 2: So the point is that you have to believe in
• 3:34:50
  Speaker 2: yourself unconditionally. You can't rely on no one. You really can't.
• 3:34:55
  Speaker 2: Let people say it's great to have good friends and
• 3:34:58
  Speaker 2: people to help you, Yes, but no, it has to
• 3:35:02
  Speaker 2: come from you. You have to make your own life.
• 3:35:07
  Speaker 2: You have to make your own success. You have to
• 3:35:10
  Speaker 2: do it because there's so many fucking opportunities out there
• 3:35:13
  Speaker 2: right now, especially with the Internet, you could reach the world.
• 3:35:16
  Speaker 2: You got a good idea, it's easier than ever right now.
• 3:35:19
  Speaker 2: But you still have to have the bulls to do it,
• 3:35:21
  Speaker 2: and you have to be able to deal with the
• 3:35:24
  Speaker 2: people that come after you say your low life, say
• 3:35:26
  Speaker 2: you're a scum big the better you do. Listen, people
• 3:35:30
  Speaker 2: hate people that are successful. They really are. It's nuts,
• 3:35:34
  Speaker 2: it's fucking crazy, you know. Like people say, don't read
• 3:35:37
  Speaker 2: the comments, Dave and Big Cat and PFT first time
• 3:35:40
  Speaker 2: I met him, don't read comments. I read every fucking comment,
• 3:35:44
  Speaker 2: every comment. I delete any fucking person that that fucking
• 3:35:48
  Speaker 2: is a scumbig, I hide it and I delete it.
• 3:35:52
  Speaker 2: Every comment, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, every fucking comment. I've never
• 3:35:59
  Speaker 2: not read a comment because you're not gonna piss on
• 3:36:02
  Speaker 2: me in my fucking house, and my social media is
• 3:36:04
  Speaker 2: my fucking house. I worked hard at that, you know
• 3:36:07
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm sixty three fucking years old. No
• 3:36:10
  Speaker 2: one's ever said, hey, s too fine is the greatest
• 3:36:12
  Speaker 2: guy ever, you know, like barstool loves me and that stuff.
• 3:36:15
  Speaker 2: But no newspapers, no media fucking ESPN never picked me up.
• 3:36:20
  Speaker 2: Fox never picked me up, No media outlever picked me up,
• 3:36:24
  Speaker 2: No newspaper picked me up. As matter of fact, they
• 3:36:27
  Speaker 2: tried to put me in my grave. So, in other words,
• 3:36:30
  Speaker 2: I've dealt with a lot of adversary, but I'm not
• 3:36:32
  Speaker 2: gonna read about it. You're gonna piss on me on
• 3:36:35
  Speaker 2: my fucking on my social that's my backyard, that's my life.
• 3:36:38
  Speaker 2: I built that up. I got one hundred and seventy
• 3:36:41
  Speaker 2: thousand fucking followers on Twitter, and my Twitter has been
• 3:36:44
  Speaker 2: taken down three fucking times, and I've been shadowed. I
• 3:36:47
  Speaker 2: was the ultimate shadow band. They shadow banned me, they
• 3:36:51
  Speaker 2: created the word to shadow band me. My Instagram has
• 3:36:53
  Speaker 2: been taken down twice. I got one hundred and thirty
• 3:36:55
  Speaker 2: five thousand followers on Instagram. Those are hard numbers, you
• 3:36:59
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Because I'm not deportingly I think
• 3:37:02
  Speaker 2: I am, but I'm not. I'm not fucking big cat,
• 3:37:04
  Speaker 2: not pft. I'm not you. I'm not you. You know
• 3:37:07
  Speaker 2: what I mean. I'm really not. But I bring enough
• 3:37:09
  Speaker 2: to the table that every day I work hard, every day.
• 3:37:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody knows what I eat, what I do, when I
• 3:37:15
  Speaker 2: take a shit, when I fuck my wife. And that's
• 3:37:18
  Speaker 2: my game. So my point is that you don't rely
• 3:37:23
  Speaker 2: on nobody. You want something to happen, you fucking do it.
• 3:37:26
  Speaker 2: It's the barstool way. Barstol ain't gonna do shit for you.
• 3:37:29
  Speaker 2: They're really not. You could work the forever and be
• 3:37:32
  Speaker 2: a nobody and make no money. What did Brianna do? Brianna?
• 3:37:36
  Speaker 2: Literally I remember it like it was fucking yesterday. She
• 3:37:39
  Speaker 2: was some scared little fucking intern, and I went out
• 3:37:42
  Speaker 2: of my way. I mean, obviously because she was beautiful,
• 3:37:44
  Speaker 2: but just I mean, but she doesn't look like she
• 3:37:47
  Speaker 2: did then now, you know. But I went out of
• 3:37:50
  Speaker 2: my way to say, hey, Leke, you're gonna fucking be great.
• 3:37:51
  Speaker 2: You give it one hundred percent, fucking two hundred percent,
• 3:37:55
  Speaker 2: like anytime, like for example, people would walk into that office,
• 3:37:57
  Speaker 2: and I watched it. It really told me, fucking crazy, Brianna,
• 3:38:01
  Speaker 2: can I take a picture with you? Meanwhile, Grace is
• 3:38:03
  Speaker 2: sitting right at the fucking desk next to her, and
• 3:38:07
  Speaker 2: Grace never blinked. I watched a couple times she put
• 3:38:09
  Speaker 2: her head her head down because you know, like she
• 3:38:12
  Speaker 2: didn't get the buzz. Any time I took a picture
• 3:38:15
  Speaker 2: of Brianna, I said, fucking Grace, come in the picture.
• 3:38:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm aware, but again I'm sixty two years old.
• 3:38:21
  Speaker 2: To be aware like that, you have to see a lot.
• 3:38:24
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot, so you know my message would be,
• 3:38:28
  Speaker 2: like my model, My MO is to fucking you rely
• 3:38:31
  Speaker 2: on yourself. You trust yourself. No one's better than you.
• 3:38:35
  Speaker 2: My point that I was talking about when I started
• 3:38:37
  Speaker 2: the business, me and saying, we worked nineteen hours a
• 3:38:42
  Speaker 2: day for over fifteen years, seven days a week. There
• 3:38:48
  Speaker 2: was no difference. I did not go to people's weddings.
• 3:38:51
  Speaker 2: I did not go to people's birthday parties. I did
• 3:38:54
  Speaker 2: not go to backyard barbecues. I fucking worked like an animal.
• 3:38:59
  Speaker 2: So I know how it is to work. And you
• 3:39:02
  Speaker 2: have to sacrifice, and the sacrifice is painful, and the
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 2: sacrifice is deep, and you're going to lose friends and
• 3:39:10
  Speaker 2: you're gonna lose friend tips. But to be successful, that's
• 3:39:13
  Speaker 2: the presure back. That is similar to pricere pay and
• 3:39:17
  Speaker 2: and people hate. Jealousy is crazy. It's fucking crazy. The
• 3:39:21
  Speaker 2: better you do, the more people hate you. Well said,
• 3:39:25
  Speaker 2: you know it's it's so that's my amo. Fuck man,
• 3:39:30
  Speaker 2: it was great after you me and you probably put
• 3:39:32
  Speaker 2: it in. There's two thirty eight right now. We probably
• 3:39:33
  Speaker 2: put an eight minutes total.
• 3:39:35
  Speaker 1: Always might be I.
• 3:39:35
  Speaker 3: Think that would the under on that. Yeah, yeah, say
• 3:39:38
  Speaker 3: maybe we thought for five minutes. It's incredible to hear
• 3:39:41
  Speaker 3: your story and it's.
• 3:39:42
  Speaker 2: Incredible at list. I'm so blessed, I really am.
• 3:39:44
  Speaker 1: It means I know there's a lot of gaps and
• 3:39:47
  Speaker 1: you go on and on and on.
• 3:39:48
  Speaker 2: I can speak for another five you, no question, but
• 3:39:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like.
• 3:39:50
  Speaker 1: We've got a good front to back cover.
• 3:39:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 3:39:52
  Speaker 2: And it was really and it can come back anytime.
• 3:39:55
  Speaker 3: I remember meeting you and then now I didn't know
• 3:39:58
  Speaker 3: obviously your background and all that, and will kind of
• 3:40:00
  Speaker 3: film me in it was back in New York, and
• 3:40:02
  Speaker 3: then obviously seeing you on Barstool Sports Advisors in the
• 3:40:05
  Speaker 3: top dog energy. It's incredible to see you turn on
• 3:40:08
  Speaker 3: the energy and also the gratitude. You're a very genuine
• 3:40:10
  Speaker 3: person's it's very nice to finally get to know you
• 3:40:13
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 3:40:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 3:40:14
  Speaker 1: This is awesome.
• 3:40:15
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 3:40:15
  Speaker 1: So the show was called initially The Sports Advisor.
• 3:40:18
  Speaker 2: These Sports Advisors, and Dave said, I want to rebrand it.
• 3:40:22
  Speaker 1: And you're the guy to deal with because we want
• 3:40:24
  Speaker 1: to bring back all that.
• 3:40:25
  Speaker 2: I want to bring back your show, you know, and
• 3:40:27
  Speaker 2: he said, and he literally said to me, my son
• 3:40:29
  Speaker 2: was still pissed to this fucking day. He said, what
• 3:40:32
  Speaker 2: do you need? You know, meaning, how much money?
• 3:40:35
  Speaker 3: What do you need?
• 3:40:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, fucking Dave, can I run two commercials
• 3:40:38
  Speaker 2: on the show like I used to? He goes, Yeah,
• 3:40:40
  Speaker 2: he goes, That's all I fucking need because I'll make
• 3:40:43
  Speaker 2: my own money. Like it's probably a bad move. I
• 3:40:46
  Speaker 2: probably should have hit him for a salary, and then
• 3:40:49
  Speaker 2: I would have probably got a couple million dollars worth
• 3:40:50
  Speaker 2: of penstock. And you know I missed out on that
• 3:40:55
  Speaker 2: because I'm not shocked like that. I'm just not, you know,
• 3:40:58
  Speaker 2: I you know, I'm a quick to make a decision.
• 3:41:01
  Speaker 2: But I was so grateful, you know too, I'm like,
• 3:41:06
  Speaker 2: fucking Dave fort Noy just fucking called me. I gotta
• 3:41:10
  Speaker 2: respect that, you know what I mean? And if I
• 3:41:14
  Speaker 2: can't make my own way off of that, then I'm
• 3:41:17
  Speaker 2: not too funny, you know. Then what the fuck I've
• 3:41:20
  Speaker 2: been talking about my whole life, you know what I mean? So,
• 3:41:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, so I got you guys the book. Bet
• 3:41:25
  Speaker 2: you I can okay, This book, you know, tells the
• 3:41:28
  Speaker 2: whole story. And then guys, I got two more here
• 3:41:30
  Speaker 2: for you guys too, And then I got Then I
• 3:41:33
  Speaker 2: got the cum towel, which is a fabulous piece of merchandise.
• 3:41:38
  Speaker 2: Hello mister, Hello, Hello, Hello. And it's a great read.
• 3:41:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you take a ship and that book will
• 3:41:45
  Speaker 2: be you know, an hour and a half. You got
• 3:41:47
  Speaker 2: the whole fucking book under your under your belt. And
• 3:41:49
  Speaker 2: then most of the time, you know, because you guys
• 3:41:51
  Speaker 2: love gambling and love the roller coaster. It's a great story.
• 3:41:54
  Speaker 2: You'll read it twice. It's just fucking great, you know.
• 3:41:57
  Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of things I didn't talk
• 3:41:59
  Speaker 2: about that are in the book. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 3:42:02
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want to bring up. But you
• 3:42:04
  Speaker 2: know it's in the book. It's black and white. Everything
• 3:42:06
  Speaker 2: going to happen is black and white.
• 3:42:08
  Speaker 1: Read.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate you, ma'am.
• 3:42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good read.
• 3:42:10
  Speaker 1: Speciate Uh yeah. You sharing all this with this my pleasure.
• 3:42:13
  Speaker 1: Do you have fun on busting with the boys the best?
• 3:42:15
  Speaker 2: This is the fucking best.
• 3:42:17
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 3:42:17
  Speaker 1: So pumped.
• 3:42:18
  Speaker 4: I remember listening to your episode on spint and Chicklets
• 3:42:21
  Speaker 4: actually and shut by the way, shut out the boys
• 3:42:22
  Speaker 4: for these jerseys. We just did a sambagger and a
• 3:42:25
  Speaker 4: podcast with them. Um, but I saw your interview on
• 3:42:29
  Speaker 4: Spin Chicklets. I was like, this dude's a fucking riot.
• 3:42:32
  Speaker 2: Those guys are the best. I fucking love them and
• 3:42:34
  Speaker 2: they love me. I love them. I mean, the grinders
• 3:42:37
  Speaker 2: the greatest. They fucking worked. They dick off, no issue,
• 3:42:41
  Speaker 2: no two ways about it.
• 3:42:42
  Speaker 3: Look the only way to be successful, right, There's no
• 3:42:44
  Speaker 3: other way.
• 3:42:45
  Speaker 2: To do it. Otherwise everyone be successful. People are not
• 3:42:48
  Speaker 2: willing to work seven days a week, twenty four hours
• 3:42:50
  Speaker 2: a day.
• 3:42:51
  Speaker 3: They really not.
• 3:42:52
  Speaker 2: And there's only way to do it. It's just not
• 3:42:54
  Speaker 2: and go work for someone and deal with it. True.
• 3:42:59
  Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, phenomenal podcast stars, thank you, Big Hooks,
• 3:43:02
  Speaker 3: Tony Kisses.
• 3:43:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good, okay, Yeah, that was awesome