Latest / The D.L. Hughley Show / DLHS Hour 2 | Hair Stylist Refuses to Put Blonde Hair in Child
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It is the dal You can show your twenty twenty
- 0:02Speaker 1: six edition. Take a listen to this.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Tancert going on top of this. It's not too late.
- 0:06Speaker 1: You're not doing yet.
- 0:08Speaker 2: You're not done yet.
- 0:10Speaker 3: I know that I'm not done yet.
- 0:11Speaker 4: I want to shoot.
- 0:12Speaker 1: She's no, I cannot do doublonde. No, she's young, she's
- 0:15Speaker 1: too young. But that's my child and we request blowing.
- 0:19Speaker 4: Why did you bring out to the show for me
- 0:20Speaker 4: to do her hair? Then she's your child, but you
- 0:22Speaker 4: bring out to.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Yes, I'd be okay.
- 0:24Speaker 5: She wants blond in her hair now, I think, and
- 0:31Speaker 5: you don't want to say that is I don't want to.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to play into a stereotype.
- 0:37Speaker 5: But remember a long time, not even a long time
- 0:39Speaker 5: earlier this year, when black women were talking about getting
- 0:41Speaker 5: together and Bannie and boycotting those shops because they felt
- 0:46Speaker 5: that there was an inherent level of disrespect that was
- 0:49Speaker 5: meted out towards.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Them, right yep.
- 0:53Speaker 5: I think this woman, the owner of this shop, personifies
- 0:57Speaker 5: everything that a lot of people were saying about their
- 1:00Speaker 5: energy actions with this particular industry genre. And I think
- 1:07Speaker 5: one of the things you put three things in a situation,
- 1:10Speaker 5: black women, hair and money, and you're gonna have everything
- 1:15Speaker 5: got to be dotted in eyes.
- 1:18Speaker 1: And then you want tips and it's all kinds of stuff.
- 1:20Speaker 1: And then I got to be here, and you know
- 1:23Speaker 1: it's it's just there needs.
- 1:25Speaker 5: To be at least a a level of respect.
- 1:30Speaker 1: And and and and you know, like courteousness.
- 1:35Speaker 5: That you like it shouldn't be like I'm doing something
- 1:38Speaker 5: like and and even though I don't think, I think
- 1:41Speaker 5: she absolutely has the right to decide what she allows
- 1:45Speaker 5: and un shopping with age and all that. Her affect,
- 1:48Speaker 5: the way she spoke, the in her actions, the things
- 1:50Speaker 5: she said, I just get them prisoned.
- 1:52Speaker 1: She when they've done that to a white woman. M. Well,
- 1:56Speaker 1: but I might have done it to anybody I'm anymore.
- 2:01Speaker 5: But I just I don't. It was a little stank attitude.
- 2:05Speaker 5: It was very stinky. And it's the kind of thing
- 2:08Speaker 5: that is exhibited a lot when I've seen people from
- 2:10Speaker 5: here and people from there.
- 2:12Speaker 1: It is a kind of almost a disdain they seem
- 2:15Speaker 1: to have for us. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Sanders,
- 2:21Speaker 1: I do.
- 2:21Speaker 6: I just I have two gripes about it. Number One,
- 2:25Speaker 6: you know, you are in business and the business is braids, right,
- 2:30Speaker 6: and it's to make money. So you know, if I
- 2:33Speaker 6: come in and you see me come in with my daughter,
- 2:36Speaker 6: I booked the appointment beforehand, and I'm pretty sure she
- 2:38Speaker 6: told her it was a kid, because typically you do
- 2:40Speaker 6: that when you book appointments. You know, if you had
- 2:43Speaker 6: some kind of restrictions, you should have said that up front.
- 2:46Speaker 6: The other thing is, I'm not paying you for your opinion.
- 2:49Speaker 6: If you are doing your daughter's hair and you think
- 2:51Speaker 6: that she's too young to have blonde braids or a few,
- 2:54Speaker 6: because her hair is already done.
- 2:56Speaker 4: Basically, she just wants blonde pieces.
- 2:58Speaker 6: If you're doing your own daughter's hair, you can have
- 3:00Speaker 6: whatever opinion you want to and you don't have to
- 3:02Speaker 6: do her hair. But what you're not going to do
- 3:05Speaker 6: is tell me what I can and what I can't
- 3:07Speaker 6: do with my daughter's hair. After you sat and you've
- 3:10Speaker 6: already basically completed the braid, and I'm giving my permission.
- 3:14Speaker 6: So it's not like my daughter came in on her
- 3:16Speaker 6: own and you said, you know what, I need your
- 3:18Speaker 6: mom's permission. I'm standing here and I'm telling you this
- 3:21Speaker 6: is what my.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Daughter look crazy in front of my child. You make
- 3:24Speaker 1: me look right in front of my child, period, and
- 3:26Speaker 1: you have you're very dismissive of that.
- 3:30Speaker 5: Yeah, it's attitude, and it's the only kind of attitude
- 3:35Speaker 5: that people seem to exhibit.
- 3:37Speaker 3: You have.
- 3:37Speaker 5: When you have that attitude, you clearly do not respect
- 3:40Speaker 5: or you have a disdain for the people you're dealing with.
- 3:43Speaker 5: You cannot exhibit the attitude unless that were the case.
- 3:47Speaker 5: Chewing gum and telling somebody what they're gonna do and
- 3:49Speaker 5: not do, even though I believe in it, she had
- 3:51Speaker 5: a right to do it.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Now, who do you think was right? The proprietor of
- 3:55Speaker 1: the customer? Who do you think was right? Skip? What
- 3:57Speaker 1: do you think?
- 3:58Speaker 4: I mean? The customer should always give the one.
- 4:00Speaker 7: Now, if I was gonna lead exactly what they paid for, Yeah,
- 4:03Speaker 7: but I was gonna lean a lot of times. Now
- 4:05Speaker 7: I'm the ball guy talking about hair. But usually when
- 4:07Speaker 7: I've seen women, they usually hey, this is what I
- 4:10Speaker 7: want done coming in when they're making an appointment, and
- 4:12Speaker 7: a lot of it.
- 4:13Speaker 4: If you go in and say I want to perm
- 4:14Speaker 4: but then I wanted naturally.
- 4:16Speaker 7: You know, I think she should have discussed, Hey, I'm
- 4:18Speaker 7: bringing my little girl in and this is what she's
- 4:20Speaker 7: gonna want and I want to do that. And she
- 4:21Speaker 7: could have told you before she got her hands deep
- 4:23Speaker 7: in her hair that she would or would not do that.
- 4:26Speaker 4: I just you know that well.
- 4:27Speaker 6: But I think in this particular case, though, you could
- 4:30Speaker 6: tell the girl got what she wanted because her hair
- 4:32Speaker 6: was just about done. But if you look off in
- 4:34Speaker 6: the background, you could see another young lady getting her
- 4:37Speaker 6: hair done, and it's all blonde. Now a little girl
- 4:39Speaker 6: could have And as women, we do this all the time.
- 4:42Speaker 6: We have a change of heart while we're getting our
- 4:44Speaker 6: hair done. And as a woman who gets her hair
- 4:47Speaker 6: done often you can have a conversation and you I
- 4:50Speaker 6: don't like this. This is too tight. Can you add this?
- 4:52Speaker 6: I didn't want it that way. You have the right
- 4:54Speaker 6: to make all of those changes as long as you're
- 4:56Speaker 6: still in the process of getting your hair done. And
- 4:59Speaker 6: it looked to me like the little girl said, you
- 5:01Speaker 6: know what, I wouldn't mind having some of that blonde hair,
- 5:04Speaker 6: and probably told her And she wasn't finished either way,
- 5:08Speaker 6: whether the mom or the little girl. The lady was
- 5:11Speaker 6: not finished braiding her hair. All she was asking for
- 5:14Speaker 6: was a few pieces to be added in. And you
- 5:17Speaker 6: are well within your rights to ask that, and anybody
- 5:20Speaker 6: who goes to a hairshop and gets their hair done,
- 5:23Speaker 6: you know that to be the case. Clearly, the woman
- 5:26Speaker 6: had an issue with the fact that she didn't want
- 5:28Speaker 6: to do it because she thought the little girl.
- 5:30Speaker 4: Was too young.
- 5:31Speaker 6: Even when you have restaurants and they say no shoes,
- 5:33Speaker 6: no shirt, no service, they're letting you know in advance
- 5:36Speaker 6: what we will and what we won't do. This girl
- 5:38Speaker 6: by the number braid she has. I know that little
- 5:40Speaker 6: girl been in that chair for about three or four hours.
- 5:43Speaker 6: I know that for sure because I get my hair
- 5:44Speaker 6: braided a lot. So you wait till now, until you're
- 5:47Speaker 6: almost finished that. Oh I'm not going to put ad
- 5:49Speaker 6: blonde to it that young and get out, but you
- 5:53Speaker 6: could do that. She wasn't finished.
- 5:57Speaker 4: But I actually agree you should be able to get
- 5:59Speaker 4: what you gottad.
- 6:00Speaker 5: I'm not going to have this conversation continue with a
- 6:02Speaker 5: ball dude and get blind here.
- 6:06Speaker 6: And I got blonde raids right now, so shut up.
- 6:08Speaker 1: I know that's what I said. That's what I said.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Who is right the customer? The customer, as you say,
- 6:13Speaker 5: is always right, or the propriety.
- 6:15Speaker 2: We're gonna go to the phones if that parent feels
- 6:18Speaker 2: that her daughter wants blond hair dependent on dage appropriate this,
- 6:24Speaker 2: then that's what the actual proprietor should have done. She
- 6:27Speaker 2: should not have given her attitude. There are a lot
- 6:30Speaker 2: of us out here who are paying for things, but
- 6:32Speaker 2: a lot of us will say, Okay, what do you
- 6:34Speaker 2: think if my daughter gets this in her hair, and
- 6:37Speaker 2: then we that's when we ask for their opinion. But
- 6:40Speaker 2: if she says, okay, I'd like a little blonde in
- 6:43Speaker 2: her hair, then put her a little streak in hand,
- 6:46Speaker 2: be happy about it, and just charging and keep coming.
- 6:49Speaker 8: I just feel like people.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Are allowed for moves and values.
- 6:53Speaker 8: I get that the lady's tone was a little condescending,
- 6:58Speaker 8: but I would we take my daughter somewhere where they
- 7:02Speaker 8: didn't have as many morals and values, where she could
- 7:05Speaker 8: get the blonde hair put in her hair. So I
- 7:09Speaker 8: just think you can't force it upon anybody. It's their discretion.
- 7:13Speaker 8: So I think she could have changed her tone a
- 7:16Speaker 8: little bit. It was a little harsh to say, how.
- 7:20Speaker 3: Old are you?
- 7:21Speaker 9: You know?
- 7:22Speaker 8: But at the same time, just take your daughter somewhere
- 7:26Speaker 8: where you would be happy to getting the service and
- 7:28Speaker 8: they would be as well happy to do it.
- 7:32Speaker 3: So I think the beauty salon.
- 7:33Speaker 10: In person should just you know, be quiet and do
- 7:36Speaker 10: your job.
- 7:37Speaker 11: It could have been a situation where a parent.
- 7:39Speaker 12: Or guardian and a child had some type of agreement,
- 7:42Speaker 12: you know, maybe the all a's or something, and it
- 7:45Speaker 12: was agreed upon. So if I do your job.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Then it's gonna need to voice opinion.
- 7:49Speaker 12: Is that's what the parent and a child agreed on.
- 7:53Speaker 11: I think the silence is ripe for doing that because
- 7:56Speaker 11: at the end of the day, if the child's parents
- 7:58Speaker 11: are strong enough to hold the color or chemical, then
- 8:02Speaker 11: the silas is that that's all. Her name is on
- 8:04Speaker 11: the line for that, her reputation to be on the
- 8:06Speaker 11: line for that. So I get like people saying, oh, well,
- 8:10Speaker 11: I want to I want whatever I want, what I'm
- 8:13Speaker 11: paying for. But at the end of the day, you know,
- 8:16Speaker 11: all stylists you know aren't going to do that, aren't.
- 8:18Speaker 13: Going to do that.
- 8:19Speaker 11: Their name is assad to that, so they have to
- 8:21Speaker 11: take that take consideration as well. They have the right
- 8:24Speaker 11: to refuse service to anyone.
- 8:27Speaker 14: First of all, I don't think it was an African woman.
- 8:29Speaker 14: I think it was a Caribbean woman. But the nationality
- 8:32Speaker 14: has nothing to do with it. It was an immoral decision,
- 8:36Speaker 14: and the owner of the shop has every right to
- 8:39Speaker 14: say I'm not doing that. So yes, that's her child,
- 8:43Speaker 14: but she has the right as the owner that she's
- 8:45Speaker 14: not going to do that.
- 8:46Speaker 3: What's next?
- 8:46Speaker 1: Piercings, bongs?
- 8:50Speaker 2: Did you need anything you want?
- 8:53Speaker 6: What color do you want?
- 8:55Speaker 13: Blood?
- 8:57Speaker 10: I'm the Sallas.
- 8:58Speaker 6: Do you think we can ask with.
- 9:00Speaker 3: The hair color? No?
- 9:02Speaker 12: No, no, no, no no, no, no, no no no.
- 9:04Speaker 10: Who's right was going write the fous I'm a hairdresser
- 9:08Speaker 10: of forty one years. This is my forty first. I
- 9:11Speaker 10: don't color children's hair, never have, never will, and I
- 9:16Speaker 10: have turned down children in middle school getting color. I
- 9:21Speaker 10: don't do them either. My customers trust my opinion and
- 9:26Speaker 10: I do class of customers. I don't do that low
- 9:31Speaker 10: class looking hair. And I've been doing it forty one
- 9:34Speaker 10: years and my work is published in a major hair
- 9:38Speaker 10: book that is circulated over the world.
- 9:41Speaker 3: It was a situation that just came out recently where
- 9:44Speaker 3: a little boy wore skirt the school and the people
- 9:48Speaker 3: sent them home. I'm just trying to figure out the
- 9:50Speaker 3: difference between going and getting the hair done and somebody
- 9:53Speaker 3: refusing and a little boy wearing a skirt the school
- 9:56Speaker 3: and getting sent home to me as the same ideology
- 9:59Speaker 3: behind it, because at the end of the day, they're
- 10:01Speaker 3: both finding what the child is wearing inappropriate or refusing service.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Per se.
- 10:08Speaker 12: Well, I think the halfstyllars had more color sys than
- 10:11Speaker 12: the mama head. That's ridiculous, want to put color? And
- 10:14Speaker 12: the eight year old head, what's the purpose? And school
- 10:17Speaker 12: should allow that to happen. To know where you went
- 10:19Speaker 12: to schools, that's probably the elementary school age. She shouldn't
- 10:23Speaker 12: going to elementary school with blood as her hair. That's ridiculous.
- 10:26Speaker 12: As a mom, never ever eight years old, that's a
- 10:30Speaker 12: bit ridiculous.
- 10:31Speaker 3: My.
- 10:32Speaker 5: Even though I'm watching a specific situation, I think the
- 10:35Speaker 5: overall situation and the thing that really struck me the
- 10:39Speaker 5: most was the level of disdain and animist that she
- 10:43Speaker 5: permeated for her before one word was said, I just
- 10:48Speaker 5: I just if I if somebody had had that level
- 10:52Speaker 5: of aloofness or standofficeness or snowdiness.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I walked out, Yeah, and it just permeates. And it
- 11:01Speaker 1: cannot be.
- 11:03Speaker 5: It cannot be even he's judging by some of the comments,
- 11:05Speaker 5: it can't be just an imagined thing, because that woman pretty.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Much embodies everything I've ever heard about this scenario.
- 11:14Speaker 6: Right, But that's what I'm saying. When you think about
- 11:16Speaker 6: the amount. Do you know how much money it costs
- 11:18Speaker 6: to get your hair braided?
- 11:19Speaker 1: Does anybody know accident as I do.
- 11:22Speaker 6: It's very, very expensive to get your hair braided. And
- 11:25Speaker 6: depending on what you get, whether you get Mermaid braids
- 11:28Speaker 6: or you get bread, it costs a lot of money.
- 11:30Speaker 6: Give me what I want. Well, what's a thousand dollars
- 11:34Speaker 6: right there? Because I can tell the mom is getting
- 11:35Speaker 6: their hair done too, that's a thousand and twelve hundred
- 11:38Speaker 6: dollars right there.
- 11:39Speaker 4: Give me what I want? Yeah, well it wasn't the
- 11:43Speaker 4: Lego's favorite, ind I'd say something, But.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Now that boy trade is listen with life is like
- 11:58Speaker 1: an XPEC you graduate? My life after the ya my feet,
- 12:06Speaker 1: my feet.
- 12:07Speaker 13: My feet, I love my hands speechee, I love my handpe.
- 12:19Speaker 1: What's good job?
- 12:19Speaker 4: This is that?
- 12:20Speaker 15: With tray back game?
- 12:21Speaker 13: When none of episode in my life after the yard
- 12:24Speaker 13: and inside. Look at HBC graduates, like like so many
- 12:29Speaker 13: other college graduates, I know, getting employed is priority number one.
- 12:33Speaker 13: Right now, we're all running around like chickens. What I
- 12:36Speaker 13: hate is cot off trying to find a job.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And I've been feeling that pressure, especially for my parents.
- 12:42Speaker 13: Every chance my father gets to talk to me about
- 12:46Speaker 13: a job, he does it.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Hey, are you looking for a job? You getting a job?
- 12:51Speaker 5: Oh?
- 12:51Speaker 13: Mess around, go get hired.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Let's don't do it like yeah.
- 12:54Speaker 13: He's been shoving that out my throat.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Pause, and I feel it. I feel the urgency pop.
- 13:00Speaker 13: And you know, that's why we got out here this
- 13:03Speaker 13: week and we started working because my papa was in
- 13:06Speaker 13: town in Atlanta this week not only to just help
- 13:09Speaker 13: me move.
- 13:09Speaker 15: Out my apartment, but also to drag me along to
- 13:14Speaker 15: this Urban Warning convention that happens every year where all
- 13:18Speaker 15: the labels come into town and they present the new artists.
- 13:22Speaker 1: They're trying to push.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Forward all that good stuff.
- 13:25Speaker 9: So with that in mind, me I've been out here
- 13:29Speaker 9: just networking like a mug, will you know, getting myself
- 13:33Speaker 9: introduced to the right people, broadening my network.
- 13:36Speaker 1: It's cool as hell, man.
- 13:38Speaker 13: I got some real cool and important people in my
- 13:41Speaker 13: phone that are messing with your boy right now. And
- 13:44Speaker 13: now you know, I'm trying to find they got a
- 13:46Speaker 13: position for me and all that good stuff so I
- 13:49Speaker 13: can make some money. But outside of all the networking.
- 13:52Speaker 13: It's just been a cool ass experience.
- 13:54Speaker 7: Man.
- 13:55Speaker 4: I got to meet Ludacris today.
- 13:58Speaker 13: Yesterday we were at another meeting and dude running It
- 14:01Speaker 13: got Kanye on the phone.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Yay yeasy. It was cool as hell to hear one
- 14:07Speaker 1: of the Ghats on the phone. It really just opened
- 14:11Speaker 1: my eyes to all the cool stuff that people do
- 14:14Speaker 1: in this industry.
- 14:15Speaker 13: Doing this business, and my pops say it all the time.
- 14:19Speaker 13: He was trying to keep me out of the music business,
- 14:22Speaker 13: but it's hard not to gravitate towards it when you
- 14:25Speaker 13: see your father do amazing things with it.
- 14:28Speaker 1: My dad worked his ass off in this industry and
- 14:31Speaker 1: it paid.
- 14:32Speaker 13: Off, like I never had a struggle for anything, and
- 14:36Speaker 13: he was able to pay for my college off of
- 14:38Speaker 13: this stuff he did working in music. So with that
- 14:42Speaker 13: in mind, I'm like, God, why wouldn't I try to
- 14:45Speaker 13: do the same and more? You know. Anyways, that's all
- 14:49Speaker 13: I got for you all today till next time. There's
- 14:51Speaker 13: been that boy stripe and this has been my life
- 14:53Speaker 13: after the yard and it's I look at the HBCU
- 14:56Speaker 13: graduate's life