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Missing Student_s Secret Texts From Pastor Leads to Shocking Discovery_ The Murder of Aniya Mack · The Mind of a Man

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  Speaker 1: When the Kalamazoo police were called out to a student
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  Speaker 1: apartment building on a spring night in 2018, they believed
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  Speaker 1: they were responding to a report like any other. A
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  Speaker 1: Western Michigan University student, 24-year-old Anaya Mack, had been out
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  Speaker 1: of touch with friends for a few days. It was
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  Speaker 1: unusual behavior, though police found no signs of foul play,
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  Speaker 1: just oddities around her home that no one could explain.
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  Speaker 1: That is, until an unexpected encounter outside of her home
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  Speaker 1: that broke the case wide open and uncovered a shocking
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  Speaker 1: secret in the young student's life that no one saw coming.
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  Speaker 1: Hi there, I'm Kevin and welcome to Just Thought Lounge.
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  Speaker 1: Today's case begins with a routine, albeit worrying, police response
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  Speaker 1: to a potential missing persons report. But after that, it
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  Speaker 1: does not unravel in a way anyone is expecting. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take a look. In the early morning hours of Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: June 28th, 2018, officers from the Kalamazoo Police Department responded
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  Speaker 1: to a call at the Hunter Ridge Apartments in West Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: The complex is composed of a multi-story, multi-unit apartment building
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  Speaker 1: with a parking lot. The building is off-campus housing. All
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  Speaker 1: of the residents are local college students. Officers were there
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  Speaker 1: to look for 24-year-old Anaya Mack, a psychology major studying
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  Speaker 1: at Western Michigan University. No one had heard from Anaya
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  Speaker 1: since the previous Sunday. Anaya, as she was known by
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  Speaker 1: those close to her, was a social butterfly, always active
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  Speaker 1: and engaged in a range of activities. In high school,
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  Speaker 1: she was an honor roll student on the Students' Council,
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  Speaker 1: in the Health Occupations Association, the marching band, the concert band,
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  Speaker 1: varsity cheerleading, volleyball, and softball. In college, she still sang
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  Speaker 1: in the church choir and danced with the WMU All
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  Speaker 1: Girls dance group. To be out of contact with so
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  Speaker 1: many friends for even a few hours, certainly several days,
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  Speaker 1: was extremely uncharacteristic of Anaya. Good friend LaQuenta Watson phoned
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  Speaker 1: police in Kalamazoo. She told them that she usually spoke
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  Speaker 1: with Anaya every day. When she hadn't heard from her
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  Speaker 1: after a couple of days, she grew suspicious. Calls went
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  Speaker 1: straight to voicemail. Her suspicions grew when she went to
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  Speaker 1: Anaya's new job at the Great Lakes Alternative Research Center,
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  Speaker 1: where she worked with autistic children. They told her that
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  Speaker 1: Anaya had failed to report to work two days in
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  Speaker 1: a row. She had only landed the position three months
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  Speaker 1: prior and was thrilled to have found the role. There
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  Speaker 1: was no way she would choose to blow off work
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  Speaker 1: unless something serious had occurred. Childhood friend Dominic Thomas met
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  Speaker 1: with police at the apartment building. After speaking with Anaya's mother, Loretta,
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  Speaker 1: in Louisiana, as well as LaQuenta, all three had grown
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  Speaker 1: increasingly concerned over their inability to reach her.
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  Speaker 2: It's unlikely to just not answer the phone, it sounds like.
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  Speaker 3: If anything is going on, I'm pretty much the only
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  Speaker 3: person that she has here besides her family.
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  Speaker 4: But me and her, we have been best friends for.
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  Speaker 3: 24, I'm only 24, but we have been best friends
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  Speaker 3: our entire being, basically.
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  Speaker 5: I got friends like that.
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  Speaker 6: And it was just, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was driving me real crazy that if anything was going on,
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  Speaker 3: she would call me.
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  Speaker 7: If nobody, she would call me.
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  Speaker 3: I know for a fact.
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  Speaker 4: She had any medical issues?
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  Speaker 5: No. No psychological orders?
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  Speaker 8: Did she take any medication for anything?
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  Speaker 4: As of right now, not.
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  Speaker 5: To my knowledge.
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  Speaker 8: Did she ever have any drug abuse issues?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not talking marijuana, so that's almost legal,
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  Speaker 4: but harder stuff than that.
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  Speaker 1: Officers learned that Anaya owned a white 2008 Malibu, which
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  Speaker 1: they spotted in the parking lot without a license plate.
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  Speaker 1: In a spot nearby was a second, nearly identical vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: That second Malibu had Anaya's plates attached, but was registered
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  Speaker 1: to a man named Gustavo. Both vehicles had two flat tires,
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  Speaker 1: and neither appeared to be drivable. There was a light
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  Speaker 1: on inside her apartment, and it appeared there was a
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  Speaker 1: television on, though no one was answering the door.
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  Speaker 9: Did you hear what I found out about the plates?
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  Speaker 4: Her car, her Malibu.
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  Speaker 6: Over there in the corner, the plates missing off of it.
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  Speaker 4: I found it on another Malibu a.
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  Speaker 7: Couple spots down. It's not registered to her, which is
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  Speaker 7: kind of strange.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody swapped the plates.
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  Speaker 4: On the car?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: There's a white Malibu that comes back to her by
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  Speaker 4: the bin. No plate. The plate that belongs on it
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  Speaker 4: is on another Malibu. A few spots down, another white Malibu.
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  Speaker 7: Somebody else's name.
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  Speaker 5: Gustavo Fella? Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, is this Cora? Cora, this is a 90s best friend.
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  Speaker 3: Are you at home?
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  Speaker 4: Anaya has been missing for two days.
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  Speaker 5: To my understanding.
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  Speaker 8: I drove right over here from Muskegon because I.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, because the police are here as well. Is she
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  Speaker 7: up there?
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  Speaker 5: She's coming here. Okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Dominic told officers that Anaya had some issues in the
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  Speaker 1: past with her boyfriend, 25-year-old Donovan Lewis. Donovan, or Donnie
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  Speaker 1: as friends called him, was a former community college basketball
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  Speaker 1: player and YMCA lifeguard. He had recently returned to Kalamazoo
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  Speaker 1: after a short stay with his brother in Indianapolis. There,
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  Speaker 1: he had interned at a multimedia company, though now that
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  Speaker 1: he had returned to Michigan, Donovan had taken whatever job
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  Speaker 1: he could find. For the last week and a half,
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  Speaker 1: he had been working the night shift as a janitor
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  Speaker 1: at a large local manufacturing firm.
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  Speaker 2: Have there been any issues with him that you know of?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: There's been several occasions that.
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  Speaker 7: They've been back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: I know one time the police was called. Say they
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  Speaker 2: ever escalate the violence, really? He threw water on her
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  Speaker 2: several times. He took off in her car when she
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  Speaker 2: came out. She was getting ready to talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: He brought her arm up in the window and liked to.
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  Speaker 7: Drag her down the street.
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  Speaker 1: When Cora arrived to let the search party into the apartment,
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  Speaker 1: she told officers Lockett and Labretto that it was common
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  Speaker 1: for her and Anaya not to cross paths for days
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  Speaker 1: at a time. They had been assigned as roommates less
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  Speaker 1: than a year earlier, an assignment made by the organizers
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  Speaker 1: of the student building.
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  Speaker 5: When's the last time you were here before? This morning.
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  Speaker 12: I came back from work around like 6 and I
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  Speaker 12: went to the movies.
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  Speaker 5: And I came back here. When's the last time you
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  Speaker 5: saw her? Not before Saturday.
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  Speaker 10: I left home for graduation.
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  Speaker 5: I graduated Saturday. This is her room right here.
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  Speaker 13: But someone was here today because they turned on the
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  Speaker 13: air and they put some clothes in the washer.
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  Speaker 5: So when I was gone, I thought maybe she came.
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  Speaker 4: Have you seen her boyfriend around here?
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  Speaker 6: I haven't seen anybody, honestly.
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  Speaker 13: But I left for the weekend, so I thought maybe
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  Speaker 13: she just went home.
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  Speaker 11: But I really haven't seen her.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing looks out of the ordinary here.
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  Speaker 7: Obviously, boyfriend probably doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 14: Let's say, Lombredo will check mom's, boyfriend's mom's place.
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  Speaker 6: Do we have a number for her boyfriend?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: She probably wanted an I-list too, more for me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's check with the I-list too.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe he's got something. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: If she was going somewhere, she would definitely pack her makeup.
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  Speaker 5: That's the area. This looks like what would be her purse.
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  Speaker 5: A bag that she'd do her hair stuff with. That's here. Like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: There was little sign of Anaya inside. A cursory search
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  Speaker 1: revealed no evidence to suggest that she might be in danger.
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  Speaker 1: But there were oddities. The bathtub in the bathroom used
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  Speaker 1: by Anaya was full of water, as if she had
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  Speaker 1: drawn a bath but never taken it. As Cora noted,
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: someone aside from herself had been in the home. Someone
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  Speaker 1: had turned on the air conditioning unit and started a
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  Speaker 1: load of laundry. In the washer were men's clothes and
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  Speaker 1: two teal bathroom rugs. There were no mats in the
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  Speaker 1: bathroom that Anaya used, the one with the full tub
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  Speaker 1: of water.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, somebody definitely came in today, for sure.
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  Speaker 7: Because when I.
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  Speaker 5: Left today, it wasn't on.
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  Speaker 6: Does her boyfriend ever come over here and do any.
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  Speaker 5: Laundry or anything?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they always do laundry together.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So, it's not like I have to go in there.
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  Speaker 5: Does he have a key? Nah. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: Like, somebody was here because I don't think he has
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  Speaker 6: a key. Usually, if he's coming, like, we'll leave.
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  Speaker 7: The, I'll leave the door unlocked.
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  Speaker 5: Like, if I know he's here or, like, she'll leave
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  Speaker 5: the door unlocked. I don't think she's going to hurt him.
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  Speaker 1: Many of Anaya's personal belongings that she would have with
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  Speaker 1: her to travel were located in her bedroom. There was
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  Speaker 1: also the unexplained situation with the two Malibus she had
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  Speaker 1: been driving. Neither appeared to be roadworthy. If Anaya had
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  Speaker 1: voluntarily left home, how was she traveling?
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  Speaker 4: I think this is a little fishy.
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  Speaker 8: This is the only person we haven't talked to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the wife is.
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  Speaker 5: She's going to end up calling in the morning.
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  Speaker 7: I hope so.
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  Speaker 4: Where the.
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  Speaker 8: Hell has she been at, though? Both of her cars
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  Speaker 8: are here. Boyfriend has no car. Her best friend, her parents,
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  Speaker 8: her god sister, her pastor, she's at work.
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  Speaker 16: And from what other people have said, has the boyfriend
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  Speaker 16: been around her the last couple days?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he claims he hasn't seen her since Sunday either.
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  Speaker 5: What about talking to her?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to get that from him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so she's been missing since Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the last time I.
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  Speaker 6: Saw her.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 1: Officers left the apartment with different impressions of the severity
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  Speaker 1: of the situation. They had failed to find any obvious
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  Speaker 1: signs of foul play, but there was a lot that
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  Speaker 1: was not right about the situation.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think this is an actual.
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  Speaker 14: An actual?
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  Speaker 5: Like, an actual missing person?
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  Speaker 14: Well, nobody knows where she's at right now, so she's missing.
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  Speaker 15: Like, okay, well, I mean, like.
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  Speaker 14: Do I think that she's in danger?
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 11: Okay.
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  Speaker 14: We've got nothing to lead us to believe that she's
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  Speaker 14: in danger other than the fact that her boyfriend was
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  Speaker 14: an asshole at one point.
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  Speaker 6: Is that just a dispute that you were talking about,
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  Speaker 6: or like a DB?
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  Speaker 5: Uh... DB, but they didn't find it.
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  Speaker 6: Who's... There's still somebody coming and going.
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  Speaker 9: From the apartment.
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  Speaker 5: That's the weird part.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: But, like, roommate hasn't seen her in almost a week
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  Speaker 17: and doesn't think anything of it.
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Lewis had been unreachable. What they knew from Donovan
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  Speaker 1: had been relayed to them via Anaya's friends who had
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  Speaker 1: spoken with him. Both Dominic and LaQuenta said that Donovan
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  Speaker 1: had also been trying to reach Anaya unsuccessfully since Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Officer Labretto tracked down an address for his mother's home,
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  Speaker 1: which was subsequently visited. No one came to the door.
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  Speaker 1: After failing to locate Donovan at his mother's home, Anaya's
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  Speaker 1: good friend and god sister, Laquenda, contacted Officer Lockett once again.
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  Speaker 1: This time, she informed him that she knew Donovan was
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  Speaker 1: finishing his janitorial shift at Stryker, the medical equipment company,
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  Speaker 1: at 3.30 a.m. He would be returning to Anaya's apartment.
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  Speaker 1: Officers Adai and Lockett returned to the Hunter Ridge Apartments
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  Speaker 1: once more that night to seek him out. Cora and
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  Speaker 1: Dominic had left. There was no answer at the door.
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  Speaker 18: I guess we'll wait outside for a little bit, see
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  Speaker 18: if he shows up. I just feel like he'd be
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  Speaker 18: a little bit more concerned if your girlfriend's going to
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  Speaker 18: send out anything.
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  Speaker 4: Just the one person who hasn't talked to us at
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  Speaker 4: all yet. So this is the other thing I thought
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  Speaker 4: was weird, but I think it's just complete fraud. That
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  Speaker 4: down here, the white.
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  Speaker 3: Car, is actually hers.
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  Speaker 7: But they're both on flats.
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  Speaker 4: So those cars have not moved recently.
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  Speaker 12: What the fuck?
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  Speaker 4: I know, this is a weird one, I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 5: That person that you're talking to, what is that?
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  Speaker 4: That's her god sister, like her other best female friend.
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  Speaker 7: The guy she hates?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, sick.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I tried to speak to mom. I got to call
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  Speaker 4: mom back.
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  Speaker 5: Apparently she just called me back.
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  Speaker 4: Her other male best friend who I think he used
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  Speaker 4: to know.
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  Speaker 6: On the other side of the fence.
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  Speaker 4: He hasn't seen her or heard from her.
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  Speaker 8: Her roommate hasn't seen her or heard from her since
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  Speaker 8: Friday because she was out of town all weekend.
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  Speaker 15: What about.
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  Speaker 6: You got any friends for this suspect?
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  Speaker 5: The boy?
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  Speaker 4: We haven't got that far yet to get into his friends.
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  Speaker 16: The officers were standing in front of their cruiser.
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  Speaker 7: And discussing their concerns over the case.
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  Speaker 8: When things took an unexpected turn.
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  Speaker 1: A man wearing a black t-shirt, khaki shorts, and a
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  Speaker 1: backpack approached them from the front left side of the
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  Speaker 1: cruiser in the dark.
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  Speaker 4: What's, uh, what's going on, sir? Take a year and
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk about it on the way. Just tell me now.
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  Speaker 4: I'll kill my girlfriend.
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  Speaker 11: 6-1-0-6-2.
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  Speaker 4: Will you come to the apartment, please?
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  Speaker 7: Where is she? Her old boyfriend.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: He's reporting a 10-35. Where is she?
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  Speaker 14: Creek.
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  Speaker 10: Where at?
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  Speaker 3: Right here.
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  Speaker 11: Dispassed.
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  Speaker 4: You got any weapons on you, John? I don't have anything, sir.
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  Speaker 5: You can get Pat down in a moment.
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  Speaker 12: Alright, I've got to read some stuff to you real quick, okay?
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  Speaker 12: You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say
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  Speaker 12: can and will be used against you in the court
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  Speaker 12: of law. You have the right to talk to the
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  Speaker 12: lawyer and have him or her present with you before
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  Speaker 12: or during any questioning.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me from the beginning what's going on. Hey, give
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  Speaker 4: me one second, okay?
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  Speaker 7: Six, let me see.
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  Speaker 18: When I got back to town.
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  Speaker 7: About a week ago, or three weeks ago, on the 16th,
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  Speaker 7: I found out I.
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  Speaker 5: Went to her home, and.
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  Speaker 17: I found out they were messing around.
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  Speaker 5: I tried to get over it.
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  Speaker 4: I told her, it's okay.
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  Speaker 5: I understand what you did.
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  Speaker 6: I respect that you took care of yourself.
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  Speaker 5: And we moved forward.
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  Speaker 14: And we had a great couple weeks.
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  Speaker 5: And at least Sunday, we had an argument. Because I
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  Speaker 5: just moved back.
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  Speaker 14: So I didn't have a job.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have any money. The week before... Saturday, or maybe.
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  Speaker 6: Two weeks, I don't know, she told.
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  Speaker 5: Me, you know, you're not doing enough.
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  Speaker 14: I told her I could call my dad, ask for
• 17:19
  Speaker 14: some help, whatever, and she just raised some cash and
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  Speaker 14: told me all this shit, told me everything about me.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Saturday, Sunday came.
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  Speaker 4: Let's have a seat in the back.
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  Speaker 7: My car will put that.
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  Speaker 11: Yep.
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  Speaker 9: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, sit tight, okay? Donovan Lewis was happy to keep talking,
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  Speaker 4: though officers preferred to.
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  Speaker 7: Have detectives assigned before they took the interview any further.
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  Speaker 4: As they placed Donovan formally under arrest and in the
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  Speaker 4: back of a cruiser, he continued to provide scattered details.
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  Speaker 1: Officer Libretto arrived back on scene to find that the
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  Speaker 1: case that seemed to be only a possible missing person's
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  Speaker 1: minutes earlier was now a homicide.
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  Speaker 16: So that took.
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  Speaker 4: A twist.
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  Speaker 1: Officer Lockett was now the point of contact. He drove
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  Speaker 1: Donovan to the station and continued to make small talk
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  Speaker 1: with him while they awaited the arrival of detectives.
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  Speaker 7: So stay where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: When Lockett got Donovan talking, the 25-year-old made some surprising accusations.
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  Speaker 1: He explained that after going through his girlfriend's phone, he
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: discovered inappropriate text messages from her pastor. He believed that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the two were friends. physically involved. He further claimed that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: since Anaya had been struggling financially, that she had been
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: blackmailing the pastor while Donovan was out of state. The
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  Speaker 1: pastor had been paying her rent, her phone bill, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: given her the second Malibu to drive.
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  Speaker 4: What's been going on?
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Just had a rough week.
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  Speaker 6: Last week, the car had to pass through the laundry.
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  Speaker 5: Back tire went flat. Oh, is that why? It was
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: a slow week, so we had to keep refilling it
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and refilling it. And on Sunday, we found the lighthouse.
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: She wanted to go to church. She went outside. The
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: front tire was flat.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: Hmm.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Think somebody's doing anything? The car's just old and the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: tires are bad or what?
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know, Doug. Whatever she's got
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: going on with the car. Oh. And when she got
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: the car, she told me, and I can't, I can't
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: even pick her up. She told me, you know, She
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: got a new car. We got a new car.
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: From the church.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Recently, she told me. I kind.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Of told her I want to have her sit down
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: with him because.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: He ended up picking her.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Up and.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Apparently threatened her.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: The pastor threatened her?
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Over the car?
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: Why?
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Because she was using him. She told him she would
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: tell him. An argument had broken.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Out at Aniyah's apartment that Sunday.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Prompted in part by the ongoing tensions caused by her
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: relationship with her pastor, Strick Strickland, of the Second Baptist Church.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: The pastor, who was married, was also the local president
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: of the NAACP. Anaya began attending his church at the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: beginning of that year.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: And I went to her farm. She'd tussle with me
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: about her farm. She died on her farm. Kind of
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: got in my good.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: A few positions with all her fingers in her hands
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: and saw that it was a passenger, saw what he said,
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: and she kind of just gave up. Gave up the phone.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: And the whole time she was laughing.
• 22:56
  Speaker 19: Grinning.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: And she gave up the phone, she was grinning and laughing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Because she knew, okay, if I do make.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: That accusation, Upon the arrival of detectives, Donovan Lewis offered
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a full written confession to the murder. Donovan wrote that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Anais Malibu had continued to get flat tires. The pastor
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: had paid to have the tires mended at least once.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Strickland then offered her the second Malibu, which he claimed
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to own, for her use. It, too, began getting flats
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and became unserviceable. The pastor began coming by the apartment
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: more and more frequently to collect Anaya. Earlier in the year,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: she had taken an all-expense-paid trip with him and other
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: choir members to the pastor's native Mississippi. According to Donovan,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Anaya had admitted to him that she was using the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: relationship as leverage. After threatening to expose their relationship to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: his wife and others, Donovan claimed that Strickland had threatened Anaya.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Around the same time he dropped off the Malibu for
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: her to drive, she had allegedly said that the pastor
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: made it clear that he was willing to hurt her.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: That Sunday, Donovan had been drinking. Anaya was running a bath.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: He claimed to be drunk and exhausted from lack of sleep.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: having stayed up all night going through her phone. One
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: text from Pastor Strickland in particular had him incensed. The
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: two began to argue. Anaya told him that she wanted
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: him to leave, for good. She got out one of
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: his suitcases and began packing his belongings into it. That
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is when Donovan said he struck her, rendering her unconscious.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He said that he then went into the kitchen, got
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a large knife, and returned to the bedroom, and slit
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: her throat, and stabbed her. He admitted that he then
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: put a garbage bag over her head and put her
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: into the suitcase. He placed the suitcase in a dumpster
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: outside of the visitor parking. The next day, in the dark,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: he retrieved it. Driving his mother's van, he drove out
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to Comstock Creek on East Main past Sprinkle Road. He
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: left Anaya in a deep stream off of the creek,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: weighing the suitcase down with mud so it would sink
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: toward the bottom of the water.
• 25:36
  Speaker 13: She walks into a room, and you know it's night. Like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: all eyes are on night. Like, it's just always been
• 25:43
  Speaker 13: like that. She was supposed to start summer school yesterday,
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: and it's just, like, heartbreaking to hear, like, how it happened.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: She didn't deserve it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 13: I always said if something happened to me, I don't
• 25:55
  Speaker 13: want everybody to be sad. I don't want nobody to
• 25:57
  Speaker 13: wear black. I want everybody to be in bright colors.
• 26:01
  Speaker 13: Trust me, I've been crying, but that ain't what she want.
• 26:04
  Speaker 13: She want us to be as happy as possible and
• 26:08
  Speaker 13: give her the best home going we can.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Investigators questioned some details provided by Donovan. In particular, they
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: expressed some doubt over how the murder transpired based on
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the lack of blood in the apartment. Responding officers failed
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to identify any signs that a stabbing had taken place.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Upon closer inspection, however, small but identifiable stains were discovered
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in the hallway, on the edge of Anaya's bed, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: on the bedroom carpet. Cleaning products already inside the unit
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: have been used to clean other surfaces. Donovan had disposed
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of a mattress cover in the apartment dumpster, which had
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: already been collected by the time law enforcement reached it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: He had placed the bath mats in the washing machine
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and disposed of his own clothing at his mother's home.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Anaya's personal belongings, her purse, ID, and bank cards were
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: thrown away in a bin near to his workplace. Only
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: portions of this evidence was ever recovered. The physical evidence
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was not the only aspect of his story that the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: detectives sought to verify. Pastor Strickland told the Kalamazoo police
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that Anaya Mack was simply a member of his congregation
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and the church choir. He was not having a relationship
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: with her. Indeed, when pressed by detectives, Donovan conceded that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Anaya had never actually admitted to an affair with the pastor,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: only that she was allegedly manipulating him for financial gain.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Strickland stated that Anaya had recently traveled with him to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Mississippi for a choir trip. While she was there, she
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: met a young man with whom she was interested and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they started a relationship. He stated that since she had
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: a boyfriend in Kalamazoo, she was hiding the relationship with
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the young man in Mississippi. According to Pastor Strickland, Anaya
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was doing this by hiding this young man's contact info
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: in her phone under his name. He stated she did
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: this so if her boyfriend saw the phone, he would
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: think it was the pastor contacting her and would not
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: be suspicious. Roughly a month after the pastor gave his
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: statement to police, he contacted them once again. He wanted
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the 2008 white Malibu returned to him. The issue was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that he seemed unable to prove that it was properly purchased.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Strickland claimed that the car was his wife's, Jasmineique's, vehicle.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He had purchased it from a man, presumably named Gustavo,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: but had no title or bill of sale.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Hello, I'm looking to speak with Pastor Strickland.
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: This is E.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Hi there.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: This is Sergeant Charles Trepp at Kalamazoo Public Safety. How
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: are you doing today?
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: I'm doing great.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: How about you, sir?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Not too bad, sir.
• 28:46
  Speaker 17: I got a voicemail message from Chief Boyce and saying
• 28:49
  Speaker 17: that you had some questions about an automobile. Yes, sir.
• 28:53
  Speaker 15: One of the automobiles that was taken related to the
• 28:57
  Speaker 15: Anaya Mack murder.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
• 29:00
  Speaker 15: One of those vehicles belonged to my wife.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 29:05
  Speaker 15: And we are trying to recover it. We had actually
• 29:10
  Speaker 15: misplaced prior to going out of town. And Anaya had
• 29:17
  Speaker 15: reached out to us while we were out of town
• 29:18
  Speaker 15: and told us that she had found the title. And
• 29:21
  Speaker 15: that the title was supposed to be in the console,
• 29:24
  Speaker 15: which I had looked in the console, I know, 20 times.
• 29:28
  Speaker 12: But anyway, she.
• 29:28
  Speaker 15: Said that the title was folded up really small. So
• 29:33
  Speaker 15: I'm thinking that this is gonna be the car that
• 29:35
  Speaker 15: you all find. It's the one that doesn't have any
• 29:38
  Speaker 15: tinted windows or any rims on it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: It's just factory.
• 29:42
  Speaker 15: In the console, you should find I'm hoping that she
• 29:45
  Speaker 15: didn't take it out or put it anywhere. You should
• 29:49
  Speaker 15: find the title in the console. Ownership of the car
• 29:53
  Speaker 15: was never proven, and it was not returned.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: To the pastor.
• 29:56
  Speaker 15: This would be the least of the pastor's issues, however,
• 29:59
  Speaker 15: when later that year, he was accused by three teenagers
• 30:03
  Speaker 15: in his church of sexual assault.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: He and his wife stood accused of using their positions
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: in the church and at a local school to coerce
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: teens into their bed. One victim reported feeling unable to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: refuse the pastor's advances because he really needed the use
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of the car that the pastor was lending him.
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: Pastor Strickland is here.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: He hasn't gone anywhere. He's been here throughout this.
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: He remains pastor at Second Baptist.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Three different things. Magne teens for.
• 30:46
  Speaker 19: Sex, CSC, and pandering.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Can Mr. Strickland or can someone respond to this?
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: No, no, and no.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Not guilty, not guilty, not guilty. Didn't do it, didn't
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: do it, didn't do it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 18: Given your role at the church, is it typical for
• 31:02
  Speaker 18: you to give teens, boys in the community money?
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Well, there are a lot of programs through the church
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: that help kids out.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But does Pastor Strickland personally give kids money himself?
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: I don't know of any situation where that has happened.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: The Michigan State Police investigation into Strickland and his wife
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: found that the alleged assaults took place between January and
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: May 2018. Text messages and screenshots of photographs taken from
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the victim's cell phones supported their claims against Strickland. In
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: February 2023, a plea agreement was reached. He admitted to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: using a vehicle to solicit prostitution. The pastor was sentenced
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to one year in prison.
• 32:01
  Speaker 17: During that time within the county, did you knowingly offer
• 32:04
  Speaker 17: to sell transportation services to TH and or TJ that
• 32:09
  Speaker 17: facilitated travel for the purpose of engaging in what would
• 32:12
  Speaker 17: be a violation of the laws governing prostitution?
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: In a lengthy sentencing statement, the pastor continued to deny
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: his guilt, explaining that accepting the plea was simply in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the best interest of his family.
• 32:28
  Speaker 20: I'm not here today to be pious and to pretend
• 32:33
  Speaker 20: as though I am innocent and without fault.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: However, I am not guilty of what I was accused of.
• 32:39
  Speaker 20: I am glad that the 10 most.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Heinous charges were dismissed.
• 32:46
  Speaker 20: And eventually, the prosecutors, with their backs against the wall,
• 32:51
  Speaker 20: made a deal that I believe was too good of
• 32:57
  Speaker 20: a deal to put my family through the risk of going.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: Through a trial.
• 33:02
  Speaker 20: I know that they'll use their imps in the media
• 33:06
  Speaker 20: to try to pretend that they've won in some way,
• 33:08
  Speaker 20: or that this is some win for the prosecutor's office.
• 33:11
  Speaker 20: This is not a win for the prosecutor's office, and
• 33:13
  Speaker 20: it's certainly not a win for the cause of justice.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Donovan Lewis agreed to lead Kalamazoo police to the location
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: at Comstock Creek where he had left Anaya.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: It's a little bit sloped right there.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Now did you, Donovan, did you have her on this.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: Side of the guard real quick? In a suitcase or.
• 33:45
  Speaker 19: Did you bring her all the way down?
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: All the way down.
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: All the way down here?
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you wheel her in the suitcase all.
• 33:49
  Speaker 19: The way down here?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: Can you park back up by where the SUV is?
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: Where the white truck is?
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: And how do you.
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: Get her in the water?
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: You just threw her in the suitcase into the water.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, and this is the right spot?
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: Okay, where do you want these guys to go?
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Straight.
• 34:11
  Speaker 17: Straight down?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Switch sides so the sun's not making a problem.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: An accomplished swimmer, Donovan had taken Anaya in the suitcase
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: further down the creek and into the deeper, muddy water.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Searchers were unable to wade into the stream and instead
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: took a rescue boat.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: We're on camera, guys.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: Yep, we're on camera.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: Where are we headed? Right in there.
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: Well, I don't think we're going to get in there. Okay,
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: we're on camera.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: We're on camera.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: All right. Are we.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Going to be able to get this thing back there, Terry?
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: We're looking to try to somehow get the rope you
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: got in there. You're going to try to get it out.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: Here's the rope bag.
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: Tie that off on the boat.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Oh, that's a problem. At 0920 hours, we have connected
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: to the.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Suitcase. Evidence.
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Would you want to get it closer?
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Did you guys open confirm already?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Was that recorded?
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's recorded.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: It just buzzed, but it was just a four minute
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: buzz or whatever.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Now when we get out, do we want to think
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: of it off in the back?
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: So we're not backing up the screen?
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Did it stick?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I think all the way out and then probably hand
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the rope back through some of them back.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: All right, we're almost.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Back up in the stream. See that tag.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: Is loose sitting on top of there.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: It's just laying there.
• 35:59
  Speaker 10: Tag?
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: What tag?
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: The luggage tag.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Oh, okay. Okay.
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: John, you want to fish?
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Can you get that, Mark? You got it? And
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: then I'll.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: After recovering the suitcase from the water, investigators continued to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: search the small channel for the murder weapon, the black-handled
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: butcher knife that Donovan had used. He stated that he
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: had stuck it into the side of the creek very
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: close to the suitcase. After removing several feet of vegetation, however,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: searchers were still unable to locate it. The recovery had
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: been successful nonetheless. Anaya's family was able to lay her
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to rest.
• 36:43
  Speaker 19: To other people, being about other people, was her legacy
• 36:47
  Speaker 19: and is her legacy.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: And that's what we want people to focus on.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: You got a lot of love for everybody.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:53
  Speaker 13: Oh, God.
• 36:55
  Speaker 19: My Naya was a person about other people. Naya was about,
• 36:59
  Speaker 19: you know, mental health awareness.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: She was about autism research. She loved kids.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Three days before Donovan Lewis was meant to stand trial
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for first-degree murder, He was in the recreation yard at
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the Kalamazoo County Jail playing soccer with a handful of
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: fellow inmates. After about 30 minutes of recreation time, he
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: abruptly stopped kicking a soccer ball and bolted towards the fence.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Donovan scaled two 15-foot walls, climbed over security fences, one
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: topped with barbed wire and the other topped with razor wire.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: He then scaled a third fence separating the jail from
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the business loop. He was captured just over a half
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: an hour later.
• 37:45
  Speaker 11: It appears that he was able to just find a
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: spot and get over it without injuring himself. The first
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: level is a barbed wire fence. The second level is
• 37:54
  Speaker 11: razor wire. The person in custody was able to get over.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Both of those.
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: Then they went over the barbed wire fence that contains
• 38:03
  Speaker 11: the business loop of I-94. And the jail jumpsuit was
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: found approximately 100 yards south of that spot.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Donovan later claimed that he was not trying to avoid
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: punishment for the murder. He said that he feared for
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: his family, whom he claimed had been receiving death threats.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: No evidence for this assertion was put forward. He pleaded
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: guilty to the escape. Anaya's family was keen to avoid
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: the trauma of a trial, and so in late 2018,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the state agreed to offer Donovan Lewis a plea deal
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: for second-degree murder.
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: I can imagine.
• 38:45
  Speaker 14: That I've caused.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: I don't even know the beginning.
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: I just want to say sorry to the family.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: That's all.
• 38:57
  Speaker 17: When I sentenced you, Mr.
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: Lewis, I balanced the principles of punishment, rehabilitation, protection of society,
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: as well as deterrence. Particularly, you being cooperative, taking full responsibility,
• 39:07
  Speaker 9: not minimizing your role in this and expressing a level
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: of remorse, a decent education. There are a lot of
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: good things here that you had developed over your life, Mr. Lewis,
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: and you threw all of that out the window back
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: on June 24th. Niamac didn't deserve any of these things.
• 39:25
  Speaker 9: She didn't deserve to be hit to begin with. She
• 39:28
  Speaker 9: didn't deserve to be... put unconscious. She didn't deserve to
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: be stabbed and murdered. And her body didn't deserve to
• 39:35
  Speaker 9: be treated less than garbage.
• 39:38
  Speaker 17: And all of that happened because of you, nobody else.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Donovan Lewis was sentenced to 25 to 40 years in prison.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He was given an additional 17 months to four years
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: for his escape from the county jail.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: How do you feel now with the sentence?
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: I feel good because my sister is okay with the sentence,
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: and so I'm okay with it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: You spoke about forgiveness, not wanting to take pain for pain,
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: but hoping that he can live with what he's done.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Can you talk about that? He had to live with
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: it for the rest of his life. Whether he was
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: sincere with what he said in court or not, He
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: has to live with it. And I hope he can.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: And I mean that. I haven't forgiven him.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: My sister, I haven't.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: And in time, I'm sure I will.
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: But not now.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: I'm not ready.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: And talk about Anaya.
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: Because I remember when the story broke, everyone had beautiful
• 40:33
  Speaker 11: things to say about her.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Clearly, she was one of the most loving people.
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  Speaker 14: She loved a monster.
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  Speaker 13: So that says a lot about her personality and her
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  Speaker 13: as a person.
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  Speaker 9: I will.
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  Speaker 3: Keep your secrets.
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  Speaker 15: Just think of me and the pages in your.
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  Speaker 1: Diary Strickland served his brief sentence for the single felony
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  Speaker 1: count of offering transportation services for engaging in prostitution. It
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  Speaker 1: seems that he is now going by the name Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Floyd Strickland. and is a pastor at the Galilee Baptist
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  Speaker 1: Church in Mount Olive, Mississippi. And that was the tragic
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: case of Anaya Mack. Thank you for joining me, and
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  Speaker 1: a special thanks to Toyobong Osuji, LisaStar13, BonjourVu2, Don Harmoning,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and Ace Clark for joining our members lounge. I'm Kevin,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: this is Just Thought Lounge, and I'll see you in
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the next one.
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  Speaker 13: Watch him on the run, but it's not a race
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  Speaker 13: Really hard to disappear, proof without a trace