Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 22 January 2026
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
- 0:05Speaker 1: earlier is show with One Root Love where you Live
- 0:09Speaker 1: News Talks.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It'd be good morning to you, welcome to the program.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Coming up
- 0:14Speaker 2: over the next sixty minutes, we've got an election date,
- 0:17Speaker 2: so she's all go, what sort of campaign will it be?
- 0:20Speaker 2: Liam Hare, the political commentator, will join us at about
- 0:23Speaker 2: five minutes time. We've got another green shoot. This time
- 0:26Speaker 2: there are more jobs for builders. We'll tell you more
- 0:27Speaker 2: on that, and of course Trump and Davos. We've got
- 0:30Speaker 2: Mitch mcand joining us for some details of what actually happened,
- 0:33Speaker 2: and an economics professor from Iowa just before the six
- 0:35Speaker 2: o'clock news on the impact, because remember this is still
- 0:38Speaker 2: about the economy. We've got this in correspondence from right
- 0:41Speaker 2: around New Zealand and news as it breaks, and you
- 0:43Speaker 2: can have your say on the text and the text
- 0:45Speaker 2: number is ninety two ninety two, and it's seven minutes
- 0:48Speaker 2: after five the agenda, and it's Thursday, the twenty second
- 0:53Speaker 2: of January, and Trump is coming for Greenland, or as
- 0:56Speaker 2: he likes to call it, a giant piece of ice.
- 1:00Speaker 3: It's the United States alone that can protect this giant
- 1:03Speaker 3: mass of land, this giant piece of ice, develop it
- 1:07Speaker 3: and improve it, and make it so that it's good
- 1:10Speaker 3: for Europe and save for Europe and good for us.
- 1:13Speaker 3: And that's the reason I'm seeking immediate negotiations to once
- 1:17Speaker 3: again discuss the acquisition of Greenland by the United States.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Now, that was part of his math and speech in Dabos.
- 1:23Speaker 2: This speech, by the way, seventy two minutes long, and
- 1:26Speaker 2: in the speech he fired shots in Europe but says
- 1:30Speaker 2: he will not use excessive force to acquire agreement.
- 1:33Speaker 3: What we have gotten out of NATO is nothing except
- 1:40Speaker 3: to protect Europe from the Soviet Union in our Russia.
- 1:43Speaker 3: I mean, we've helped them for so many years. We've
- 1:45Speaker 3: never gotten anything. And all we're asking for is to
- 1:49Speaker 3: get Greenland, including right title and ownership, because you need
- 1:53Speaker 3: the ownership to defend it.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Now, he says he's never got anything. But the only
- 1:57Speaker 2: time Article five has been enacted in the NATO agreement
- 1:59Speaker 2: was when nine to eleven happened, and so that's at
- 2:02Speaker 2: America's behest. Otherwise, there's been no activation of Article five. Meanwhile,
- 2:07Speaker 2: another news and Prince Harry's finished giving evidence against the
- 2:09Speaker 2: publisher of The Daily Mail. He claims journalists knew his
- 2:12Speaker 2: moves when no one should have. He described it as
- 2:15Speaker 2: full blown stalking for the Prince.
- 2:19Speaker 4: And his press privacy mission. This really is the moment
- 2:23Speaker 4: that matters for him. Already, his team have accused associated
- 2:27Speaker 4: newspapers of playing dirty tricks by ending their opening arguments
- 2:33Speaker 4: early yesterday, bringing the Prince to court a day earlier
- 2:37Speaker 4: than had been expected.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And Harry says his long uneasy history with the press
- 2:41Speaker 2: from dianater Meghan is why he's taking them on. It
- 2:44Speaker 2: is nine out to five.
- 2:46Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's
- 2:49Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins and one roof Love where
- 2:54Speaker 1: you Live news talks that'd be.
- 2:55Speaker 2: With all the attention on Greenland and Davos and internet
- 3:00Speaker 2: geopolitics lately, we've forgotten what's happening back here, and I'd
- 3:03Speaker 2: like to talk about wasteful government spending right now. And
- 3:06Speaker 2: when you hear about and when you ask about wasteful
- 3:08Speaker 2: government spending, you get some stock answers. People say, yeh,
- 3:12Speaker 2: this's the Ministry of Women's Affairs that's wasteful. But just
- 3:16Speaker 2: before Christmas Nicolas told us that scrapping the ministry would
- 3:20Speaker 2: save them fifteen million dollars a year.
- 3:22Speaker 5: That's it.
- 3:23Speaker 2: That's not going to change the economy overnight, is it.
- 3:25Speaker 2: But there we go. Then people will say, oh, wasteful
- 3:28Speaker 2: government spending. What about ki we build? What about Auckland's
- 3:30Speaker 2: light rail, what about that cycling bridge over the Waita Matar.
- 3:34Speaker 2: But there again, we never actually spent any real money
- 3:37Speaker 2: on it other than a bit of seed money and
- 3:39Speaker 2: research money, maybe a couple of one hundred million. Because
- 3:41Speaker 2: those pipe dreams never happened, so were they wasteful government spending.
- 3:45Speaker 2: Let me tell you about real wasteful government spending story
- 3:50Speaker 2: that broke today that kai Unger Order is selling turtong
- 3:54Speaker 2: a land that it bought for seventy one million dollars
- 3:57Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one, and it's very likely they're
- 4:00Speaker 2: going to get their money back. The chief executive of Winton,
- 4:04Speaker 2: a guy called Chris Men, told The New Zealand Herald
- 4:07Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two that Kayinger Order had significantly
- 4:10Speaker 2: outbid eleven other experienced developers, including Winton, for the land.
- 4:16Speaker 2: They paid heaps. In fact, he said the taxpayers have
- 4:19Speaker 2: paid an absurd amount of money and he would eat
- 4:23Speaker 2: his hat if anyone moved into a house on the
- 4:26Speaker 2: land within four years. Well, here we are four years later,
- 4:30Speaker 2: Chris will not be eating his hat. They're selling the
- 4:33Speaker 2: land because it's excess to needs now. For a while
- 4:35Speaker 2: there it was a common problem. Just asked the band
- 4:38Speaker 2: six sixty who ended up paying much more than they
- 4:40Speaker 2: needed to buy six to sixty Castle Road in to Needin,
- 4:43Speaker 2: which is the fact where they got their name from.
- 4:45Speaker 2: They were in an auction and their main competition was
- 4:47Speaker 2: Kayinger Order using taxpayers money, using your money, and every
- 4:51Speaker 2: time sixty sixty made a bid, oh the taxpayers beat it.
- 4:54Speaker 2: It got to an insane price and eventually six sixty
- 4:58Speaker 2: one and they complained about it. Your aura was wasteful
- 5:01Speaker 2: government spending writ large. The fact that they're selling this
- 5:04Speaker 2: land right now shows you that this government has realized
- 5:06Speaker 2: that they were out of control back then. And so
- 5:09Speaker 2: if you want an example, if you've ever asked about
- 5:11Speaker 2: wasteful government spending and mentioned Kying Order more so than
- 5:15Speaker 2: the rats of minds like the Ministry of Women's.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Affairs, News Talk sivy.
- 5:20Speaker 2: We have an election, ladies, and gentlemen, And it's in November.
- 5:24Speaker 2: I think it's about the latest we've had. It's as
- 5:27Speaker 2: late as you can really go. And so we have
- 5:30Speaker 2: an election campaign. Now, what is going to happen in
- 5:33Speaker 2: this election campaign? What's this election campaign going to be?
- 5:35Speaker 6: Like?
- 5:35Speaker 2: I can tell you right from the start, it's going
- 5:38Speaker 2: to be long. We're going to be talking about this
- 5:43Speaker 2: for the next ten months. But anyway, it's on and
- 5:46Speaker 2: it's all go. So what else might happen over the
- 5:49Speaker 2: next year. We're going to talk to Lim Hare in
- 5:51Speaker 2: just a few moments time political commentator. It's news Talk here.
- 5:54Speaker 2: It is twelve minutes after five.
- 5:56Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth
- 5:59Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room Love
- 6:03Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks, that'd.
- 6:05Speaker 2: Be it's five point fifteen. So the election's coming November seventh,
- 6:09Speaker 2: of course, when some will refuse to go into negotiations
- 6:12Speaker 2: until the final official count lands. He's always done that.
- 6:15Speaker 2: So anyway, by that stage, once we finally get into
- 6:18Speaker 2: some negotiation with something, we're going to be close to Christmas,
- 6:21Speaker 2: if not the New year, before we know who's going
- 6:23Speaker 2: to leave the country for the next three years. So
- 6:25Speaker 2: Liam here is a political commentator, and joins me nout Liam,
- 6:28Speaker 2: long time no speak? How are you? Good morning?
- 6:31Speaker 7: I'm very well, good warning to you.
- 6:33Speaker 2: So first up this this date. I said yesterday, the
- 6:39Speaker 2: government just wants to wait for as many green shoots
- 6:41Speaker 2: as possible. Would you say that's the case.
- 6:44Speaker 7: That's exactly right. It's been the strategy the whole time.
- 6:48Speaker 7: You know, it's been a rough couple of years, and
- 6:50Speaker 7: I can tell you as someone who's got a business
- 6:52Speaker 7: of myself that has been very difficult. Things are turning
- 6:57Speaker 7: it around. There has been a turning of a want
- 7:00Speaker 7: and unemployments predicted to that sort of checking down. So
- 7:04Speaker 7: they are hoping that they can if they have as
- 7:06Speaker 7: much time as possible, that people will start to feel
- 7:09Speaker 7: more and more confident. So it is it's about of
- 7:13Speaker 7: weight as it can be according to you know, recent precedent.
- 7:19Speaker 7: We're much more use to October elections in New Zealand,
- 7:22Speaker 7: recent vintage. But they want to buy as much time
- 7:26Speaker 7: as possible for the economy to improve as much as possible.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But at the same time we keep on
- 7:30Speaker 2: hearing that we will we will get election fatigue and
- 7:33Speaker 2: then that turns voters off and then people can be
- 7:35Speaker 2: bothered because they've had enough of it by the time
- 7:38Speaker 2: we get to November the seventh.
- 7:40Speaker 7: There's always a risk, and the risk is that if
- 7:42Speaker 7: things don't improve, or if the government becomes more unpopular,
- 7:46Speaker 7: there's more time for that popularity or a road. So
- 7:50Speaker 7: I mean, there's no there's no such thing as a
- 7:52Speaker 7: short bet in Baltics, and they are taking a big
- 7:55Speaker 7: bet on the economy improving and that being the main thing,
- 7:58Speaker 7: the main.
- 7:58Speaker 5: Driver of voters.
- 8:00Speaker 2: And we got somebody from Labor at the bump and
- 8:01Speaker 2: going oh. Over this next election, you're going to hear
- 8:03Speaker 2: a lot of disagreements between the coalition parties and I'm thinking, well,
- 8:06Speaker 2: of course you are, because this is the period of
- 8:08Speaker 2: time where they differentiate them differentiate themselves from each other.
- 8:12Speaker 7: Well, what's been really interesting is that you haven't seen
- 8:15Speaker 7: the minor party collapse that you normally see from a
- 8:19Speaker 7: coalition government or any type of government. Are the MMP
- 8:23Speaker 7: and that is because the Wilson Peters and David Seawall
- 8:27Speaker 7: have been differentiating themselves constantly throughout the last two and
- 8:31Speaker 7: a half years. It's been very difficult for Christopher Luxan
- 8:35Speaker 7: and It's one of the reasons why National hasn't sort
- 8:38Speaker 7: of had the big bounce that governments normally have at
- 8:42Speaker 7: the end of their first term. It's because they have
- 8:46Speaker 7: Muldson and David sea Will have figured out that the
- 8:50Speaker 7: way to continue to maintain their party support while government
- 8:54Speaker 7: is to be as difficult as possible, to be continued
- 8:57Speaker 7: to be bad boys. And I think that this is
- 9:01Speaker 7: the first election where the minor parties of the coalition
- 9:05Speaker 7: are going in was been pretty strong, so if that's true,
- 9:09Speaker 7: but it's been happening already.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And Labor, I mean, what's going to happen with Labor?
- 9:15Speaker 2: I mean they don't want to work with t Pati Mali.
- 9:18Speaker 2: They actually want to destroy to Palti Mari and when
- 9:20Speaker 2: all the seats they do want to work with the Greens,
- 9:23Speaker 2: But in that case will they ever be able to
- 9:25Speaker 2: get enough seats?
- 9:28Speaker 7: This is the big thing for National. If TPM are
- 9:33Speaker 7: quite politically toxic to the most of the voting population
- 9:38Speaker 7: but quite popular with the hardcore of the left, and
- 9:42Speaker 7: that is a classic what we though would call a
- 9:44Speaker 7: wedge in politics. And if National can tie Labour's fate
- 9:51Speaker 7: that are TPM, that is a potential big driver of
- 9:54Speaker 7: votes for National and the same way that the then
- 9:58Speaker 7: unpopularity of the Greens that's changed, so it's been two
- 10:00Speaker 7: thousand and two the Greens require unpopular in the United
- 10:06Speaker 7: Future was able to ride that about sort of a
- 10:10Speaker 7: big big bumps in the polls as National can in
- 10:14Speaker 7: the same way from Time Labor to TPM. That's the
- 10:17Speaker 7: type of thing that might drive centrist voters to National
- 10:21Speaker 7: on the basis that is there any way to keep
- 10:24Speaker 7: TPM out of government. So there's a big f about
- 10:28Speaker 7: this election.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Oh lots of and that's what makes elections fascinating them.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. That's the
- 10:33Speaker 2: here political commentator. So these green shoots that Christopher Luxton
- 10:37Speaker 2: is looking for over the next ten months to strengthen
- 10:39Speaker 2: his election campaign, we've got another one coming out today.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yesterday we had the services sector that was good. Today
- 10:46Speaker 2: we're going to talk about builders. Builder jobs are up
- 10:48Speaker 2: and that's next. It's five nineteen. It's US Talk Tomb.
- 10:53Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day Early
- 10:56Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and One Route Love where you
- 11:00Speaker 1: Live News Talks that'd be It's.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Five twenty one. It appears the confidence is returning to
- 11:05Speaker 2: the construction sector. Seek As released its monthly job report
- 11:08Speaker 2: and builders are the big winner. Job ads for construction
- 11:11Speaker 2: jump three point four percent from November to December. Trades
- 11:14Speaker 2: and engineering saw increases of one point five to two
- 11:17Speaker 2: point six percent compared to last year. There are wait
- 11:20Speaker 2: for this, forty three percent more job ads for builders.
- 11:24Speaker 2: And Malcolm Fleming is the CEO of Certified Builders New Zealand,
- 11:28Speaker 2: a joints here this morning and morning to Malcolm.
- 11:30Speaker 8: Good morning Andrew.
- 11:31Speaker 2: So these jobs are they sort of like one offs
- 11:33Speaker 2: or are they longer term employment contracts showing a longer
- 11:36Speaker 2: term security.
- 11:38Speaker 8: Look those numbers from Secretary encouraging and the whole they've
- 11:43Speaker 8: being reflected on what we're seeing as well. So part
- 11:45Speaker 8: of the membership benefit of these on Certified Builders is
- 11:48Speaker 8: that our members have access to employment agreements and across
- 11:52Speaker 8: January they're running a twenty percent up on what the
- 11:55Speaker 8: twenty twenty five averages were, and given that January is
- 11:59Speaker 8: a typically slow month, those numbers already encouraging.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Where are all the projects that these jobs are coming from.
- 12:06Speaker 8: Right across the country. We've been talking about over the
- 12:09Speaker 8: last couple of years that the likes of the South
- 12:12Speaker 8: Island patches of North Wuld have been sort of been
- 12:14Speaker 8: the top points of construction. We're starting to see this
- 12:18Speaker 8: generally fly across more balanced across the country.
- 12:22Speaker 2: We heard some complaints last year, of course, that the
- 12:24Speaker 2: government stopped a lot of projects on their capex, on
- 12:27Speaker 2: their actual their assey. It's either you know, fixing out
- 12:30Speaker 2: hospitals or building state houses and stuff like that, and
- 12:33Speaker 2: that put a lot of the construction of the industry
- 12:35Speaker 2: and the builders out of a job. Is that starting
- 12:37Speaker 2: to pick up or not.
- 12:39Speaker 8: Yeah, that was really unfortunate, the slow down or the
- 12:42Speaker 8: stoppage of projects that were already in train, and that
- 12:46Speaker 8: affected the industry really badly, about fifteen thousand jobs lost
- 12:51Speaker 8: over across that eighteen months. We're starting to see that
- 12:54Speaker 8: pick up now from central government projects coming onto market,
- 12:58Speaker 8: and we saw snippets of that late last year with
- 13:01Speaker 8: schoolworks coming through, defense housing, the Upper Norkland Live Imports,
- 13:08Speaker 8: naval base, and that's starting to sort of go on
- 13:11Speaker 8: through with hospitals and things. So we're starting to see
- 13:14Speaker 8: those signs. But in general, in terms of homeowners as well,
- 13:17Speaker 8: we're starting to feel more confident about taking on projects
- 13:21Speaker 8: and that confidence hasn't been there for quite sometime.
- 13:23Speaker 2: And the other big story from this week is that
- 13:25Speaker 2: Fletcher's sold off their construction arm to a French company
- 13:28Speaker 2: called Vancy. Will will that affect building jobs or will
- 13:33Speaker 2: Vancy just take up what Fletches was already doing well?
- 13:37Speaker 8: Is a really sad story. Were disappointed to see the
- 13:44Speaker 8: loss of the features as a commercial contractor. They haven't
- 13:49Speaker 8: been in the vertical space for a while, that's in
- 13:52Speaker 8: terms of buildings, and I've been sorely missed. And they
- 13:54Speaker 8: had a bad run back in the twenty tens with
- 13:57Speaker 8: three main projects in particular, it didn't go well for them,
- 14:00Speaker 8: Justice Present and christ Church further too and Auckland Commercial Bay,
- 14:03Speaker 8: International Convention Center which is just open. So the expertise
- 14:10Speaker 8: has been sadly missed in that space and I've been
- 14:12Speaker 8: in the storm the horizontal doing the infrastructure. That particular
- 14:17Speaker 8: work will be picked will continue on, just under a
- 14:20Speaker 8: new name. But really sweet to see a real construction
- 14:23Speaker 8: icon like Fleacher out of the commercial.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Absolutely space, Absolutely Malcolm, and I thank you so much
- 14:29Speaker 2: for your time. Malcolm Fleming. Here is a certified build
- 14:31Speaker 2: a CEO. It's news b It's five twenty five.
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- 14:41Speaker 2: News Talks B. I'm becoming more and more impressed with
- 14:46Speaker 2: Mark Carney as time goes on. Mark Carney, of course,
- 14:49Speaker 2: the Canadian Prime Minister wrote a really really great book
- 14:51Speaker 2: of what should I read over something called Values. Anyway.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I said that Mark Canney is very impressive yesday on
- 14:56Speaker 2: the radio, and I got a text It said the
- 14:58Speaker 2: Carne is just Trude over but without Candie, which is
- 15:00Speaker 2: a very snappy one liner fed to my text by
- 15:03Speaker 2: the presidents came and nowhere near the truth. Carney yesterday
- 15:07Speaker 2: gave a speech to Davos that may go down in
- 15:09Speaker 2: history as one of the big ones, will go down
- 15:11Speaker 2: as being era defining. He said, the great powers can
- 15:15Speaker 2: go along alone. They have the size and the money
- 15:18Speaker 2: and the military to do whatever they want. But that
- 15:20Speaker 2: doesn't mean that the middle powers don't exist. He made
- 15:23Speaker 2: a call for countries like Canada and Australia and South
- 15:26Speaker 2: Korea and others to build strategic autonomy and collaborate to
- 15:30Speaker 2: stabilize the global system. Don't worry about the big guys.
- 15:33Speaker 2: The middle guys need to talk together. He argued that
- 15:35Speaker 2: middle powers could no longer rely on great powers to
- 15:38Speaker 2: maintain order. In fact, they appear hell bent on sewing disorder.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Carne framed the moment is a pivot point. Either middle
- 15:46Speaker 2: powers coordinate to build a more resilient, cooperative system, or
- 15:49Speaker 2: the world sides deeper into fragmentation. And then he said
- 15:52Speaker 2: some words that completely freaked out the conspiracy class. He said,
- 15:55Speaker 2: the old error is gone, and it's time to build
- 15:58Speaker 2: a new world order. But his new world order is
- 16:02Speaker 2: not built on power and subjugation and pedophiles and whatever.
- 16:05Speaker 2: His new world order is based on cooperation amongst the
- 16:08Speaker 2: middle nations. He named the rupture. He explained its causes
- 16:12Speaker 2: and argued that the future will be shaped not by
- 16:14Speaker 2: superpowers alone, but by coalitions of capable, mid sized nations.
- 16:19Speaker 2: I thought it was brilliant. You know, Trump's speech for
- 16:22Speaker 2: seventy two minutes was not brilliant. Cannie is the smart
- 16:26Speaker 2: guy who might just win at the end of the movie.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Now we are not a middle power. We're not even
- 16:30Speaker 2: a small power anymore. The world order has changed, and
- 16:34Speaker 2: the way New Zealand used to virtual signal no longer
- 16:37Speaker 2: carries any weight. It's time to find our friends and
- 16:39Speaker 2: maximize our relationships with them, because the elephants are dancing
- 16:44Speaker 2: and us mice need to find a safe place so
- 16:46Speaker 2: we don't get crushed. Five twenty nine. The auroras are
- 16:52Speaker 2: happening at the moment because there's a very big space storm.
- 16:55Speaker 2: What a pity nobody can see it because there's a
- 16:57Speaker 2: very big weather storm right now. Curarently this is the
- 17:00Speaker 2: biggest solar radiation storm since two thousand and three. So
- 17:04Speaker 2: if you've got some clear skies at night, look up
- 17:07Speaker 2: for the space storm hasn't been falling with our power.
- 17:11Speaker 2: But that's good much. We can now in the United
- 17:13Speaker 2: States very shortly to talk about what happened at Darbos
- 17:16Speaker 2: and Lisa Cook, who Trump wants out of the Fed Reserve,
- 17:21Speaker 2: which is a big, big case. We'll talk about that.
- 17:24Speaker 2: We've got news in Sport. Next, you've got early edition.
- 17:26Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
- 17:38Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof love. Where you live used
- 17:42Speaker 1: talk said, be a.
- 17:43Speaker 9: Nice sun kiss can a little resculena. You're just like this,
- 17:48Speaker 9: holding like the purbos.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Understand Yes, summer is an.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Over good morning. She's just seeing summers and over Yet
- 17:58Speaker 2: she's right because summer hasn't even started. Let's be honest
- 18:03Speaker 2: about it. I've got a text here. We're camping on
- 18:05Speaker 2: the Coromanda of the eighties, washed out and came home
- 18:07Speaker 2: three years in a row. It's a bastard of a place.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Haven't been back in forty years. As you go back,
- 18:11Speaker 2: but don't go back in January. I said this yesterday.
- 18:13Speaker 2: If you noticed it. Every January we have a tropical storm.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Then February and March comes along, long clear period. So
- 18:20Speaker 2: if you've got anybody coming from overseas, tell them don't
- 18:22Speaker 2: come in January. Don't come Christmas, come in February. Now,
- 18:25Speaker 2: the text thru says that Cardi is good, but he's
- 18:27Speaker 2: not saying anything that's not fairly obvious. True, but it's
- 18:30Speaker 2: the way he says it. He's a very good writer.
- 18:33Speaker 2: But also who else is saying it? No one else
- 18:35Speaker 2: is saying it. Everybody thinks that when you've got something
- 18:39Speaker 2: like the current American administration, you have to fight fire
- 18:42Speaker 2: with fire. We'll do a tariffs against their tariffs. But
- 18:45Speaker 2: Carnie's talking about a work around. He's talking about saying, Okay,
- 18:48Speaker 2: just let the big elephants just do their thing and
- 18:52Speaker 2: we've just got to do a workaround and work together.
- 18:54Speaker 2: So at least he is one person saying this sort
- 18:57Speaker 2: of stuff. And finally John O. Riddler, the live Ocean
- 19:01Speaker 2: swimm and the guy who's going all the way from
- 19:02Speaker 2: Northen to Wellington, a one thousand miles swim to raise
- 19:06Speaker 2: awareness about how dirty our seas have become and how
- 19:10Speaker 2: threatened the life in there is. Of course he's paused
- 19:13Speaker 2: his swim, he's paused himself and he's just off to
- 19:16Speaker 2: Ta Kaka. He's already swim in an awfully long way,
- 19:20Speaker 2: really quite quickly. But his camp yesterday reported that he
- 19:23Speaker 2: may start up the swim again today because the conditions
- 19:26Speaker 2: are easing. And we'll keep you in touch with John
- 19:28Speaker 2: Riddler as he heads to Wellington. It is twenty two
- 19:30Speaker 2: to six z be I'm trying to go around the
- 19:34Speaker 2: country to Duaneedin. First. Callum Proctor, Good morning to you morning, Andrew.
- 19:39Speaker 2: We've got a central Otago track closing for most of
- 19:41Speaker 2: the year.
- 19:43Speaker 8: Here.
- 19:43Speaker 10: This is part of the Frankton Track, popular walking and
- 19:47Speaker 10: cycling tracks being shut while a new wastewater pipe's being installed.
- 19:51Speaker 10: It's part of the Queenstown Cycle trail network, so this
- 19:55Speaker 10: will be a blow for a lot of people. The
- 19:57Speaker 10: Queenstown Lakes SISTERCT Council's laying this pipe in Queenstown and
- 20:00Speaker 10: Franklin's strength and its wastewater resilience also to cut over
- 20:04Speaker 10: flow risk and support population growth. The council says the
- 20:07Speaker 10: track will remain closed until November. It'll briefly reopen for
- 20:10Speaker 10: the Queenstown Marathon weekend, then shut again in early December.
- 20:14Speaker 10: They do say the projects expected to finish earlier than
- 20:16Speaker 10: initially planned, six months earlier in fact, and it's essential
- 20:19Speaker 10: for the region's long term nets. How's your weather, Heavy
- 20:23Speaker 10: showers for Queenstound twenty one to need and rain easing
- 20:26Speaker 10: today at eighteen.
- 20:27Speaker 2: It'd be nice if you have some clear sky so
- 20:28Speaker 2: you can see this aurora. But thank you so much.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Callum Claire Sherwood from Christuge, good morning to you. Good morning,
- 20:34Speaker 2: So christ Jug has some Australians visiting.
- 20:37Speaker 11: Well, So we hope christ Church gen Z's new campaign
- 20:40Speaker 11: it's named Made for It is putting the spotlight on
- 20:43Speaker 11: our upgraded infrastructure and the busy event calendar where we're
- 20:47Speaker 11: quickly filling up aiming to lure travelers, specifically from Australia's
- 20:51Speaker 11: East coast. This is anchored by the opening of our
- 20:54Speaker 11: new stadium. Of course, we're counting down to April. We've
- 20:56Speaker 11: got marketing general manager for christ Church gen Z, Steve
- 20:59Speaker 11: Mackie Hanson, saying attracting more Ossie's has been a long
- 21:04Speaker 11: been a top priority here. He says, that's where the
- 21:06Speaker 11: market is and they're more likely to travel here. Macki
- 21:09Speaker 11: Hanson says it's also a priority for Central government and
- 21:12Speaker 11: they've received five hundred thousand dollars from the Events Boost
- 21:16Speaker 11: Fund to target Eastern Australians. Christ Church g and Z
- 21:19Speaker 11: wants to see hotels, restaurants, shops and attractions filled with
- 21:23Speaker 11: Ossie visitors ultimately spending money here.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Because your weather so beautiful. How is it today?
- 21:28Speaker 11: Oh sad to say, rain heavy falls easing by evening
- 21:32Speaker 11: but will remain overcast, strong northeasterlies to go with it.
- 21:35Speaker 11: The high is eighteen.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Max told Joints me from Wellington. Good morning, Max, Good
- 21:39Speaker 2: morning your emergency department at crisis Point.
- 21:42Speaker 5: Yeah, Wellington Hospital. It feels like everyone has a horror
- 21:45Speaker 5: story about having to go to this ed it's always
- 21:48Speaker 5: ranked among the worst in the country for wait times.
- 21:51Speaker 5: Apparently now it's almost a given. The demand is outstripping
- 21:55Speaker 5: staff on duty the number of available beds. They call
- 21:59Speaker 5: this their code. Only about half of patients are being
- 22:02Speaker 5: treated and moved on within six hours, only about half.
- 22:07Speaker 5: About ten people a day leave Wellington Hospital's ED without
- 22:10Speaker 5: being treated at all. It is a crisis. It was
- 22:13Speaker 5: a labor that retrieved these latest figures to make a point.
- 22:16Speaker 5: Health Minister Simeon Brown agrees. He says Wellington's ED had
- 22:20Speaker 5: unacceptable wait times and is among the worst performing in
- 22:23Speaker 5: the country, if not the worst. There has been additional
- 22:26Speaker 5: funding set aside by the government for Wellington. It doesn't
- 22:28Speaker 5: seem to be making much of an impact yet, but
- 22:31Speaker 5: Simeon Brown says wait and see. The hospital says wait
- 22:34Speaker 5: and see. I think it's fair to say a lot
- 22:35Speaker 5: of people in this city won't go to ED unless
- 22:37Speaker 5: they're dying or have a limb dangling from where it's
- 22:40Speaker 5: supposed to be.
- 22:41Speaker 2: All right, how's you weather?
- 22:43Speaker 5: Periods of rain and gusty Win twenty one the high.
- 22:46Speaker 2: And I thank you so much Mixtell for your marvelous
- 22:48Speaker 2: language and painting. Such a picture. And now now we're
- 22:51Speaker 2: joined by neither written man who from Auckland. Good morning
- 22:53Speaker 2: to you dangling got me, yeah exactly. Now you've become
- 22:56Speaker 2: the weather and flooding experts. What's happening the weather?
- 23:00Speaker 12: Okay, look, we know that the states of emergency across
- 23:03Speaker 12: the Gisban district. They're still in place. Bay of Plenty, Coramandel,
- 23:07Speaker 12: fung at A, thousands of people without power currently now
- 23:11Speaker 12: in the Gisban district, State Highway thirty five that's completely closed.
- 23:15Speaker 12: Bay of Plenty, State Highway two closed in several sections
- 23:18Speaker 12: now this is between Todunga and Pidor and in Thiams Coramandel.
- 23:22Speaker 12: We've got that extensive flooding again closing, you know, like
- 23:25Speaker 12: large sections of State Highway twenty five now south of Todunga.
- 23:30Speaker 12: Several people are stuck in cars in floodwaters on white
- 23:33Speaker 12: Or Road and in Whitecuttle. State Highway one is closed
- 23:36Speaker 12: now that's between Tito and Tukotor. That's due to multiple
- 23:40Speaker 12: fallen trees. So yes, still not good, but that worst
- 23:43Speaker 12: of the weather is over today. It's still going to
- 23:46Speaker 12: be raining showers hopefully peter.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Round over the mid sol from the poside of an adventure.
- 23:51Speaker 2: There's got to be a morning after if we can
- 23:53Speaker 2: make it through the storm.
- 23:54Speaker 12: Sing it baby?
- 23:55Speaker 2: Do I need to ask you about the weather?
- 23:58Speaker 12: Rain tropical? Do you know it's currently twenty twenty one
- 24:03Speaker 12: degrees so it's like you're sitting in Fiji. But look
- 24:06Speaker 12: that rain will lease to showers today in Auckland.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Very good stuff, New stalzb It is now seventeen to six.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Just want to mention a couple of people. First, Jack
- 24:13Speaker 2: Oliver Hood. Now Jack is a thirty seven year old
- 24:18Speaker 2: UK com barrister who drowned at Hahey Beach in the
- 24:20Speaker 2: corimandal earlier this week. And Jack was very respected. He
- 24:23Speaker 2: worked on major criminal appeals like the Mark Lundey case
- 24:26Speaker 2: and the Gael Maloney case, and also represented LEGO in
- 24:29Speaker 2: a trademark dispute with Zero. He is a shining star
- 24:32Speaker 2: of the legal profession, not only because he was a
- 24:34Speaker 2: very good lawyer, but because he was one of our
- 24:36Speaker 2: up and coming academics. And here's the thing about Jack,
- 24:38Speaker 2: this is why I'm mentioning him. I knew him, I
- 24:40Speaker 2: met him, but I met him when he was a
- 24:42Speaker 2: kid because he was the son of Doug Hood, and
- 24:46Speaker 2: Doug Hood was a big figure in the Flying Nun scene.
- 24:48Speaker 2: He started learning tours. He brought out artists like New
- 24:51Speaker 2: Water and Billy Bragg. Now Doug pass last September. And
- 24:55Speaker 2: now his son Jack Oliver Hood, very smart, very lovely kid,
- 24:59Speaker 2: thirty seven year y old now has gone as well.
- 25:01Speaker 2: So it's a double tragedy for that family in one year.
- 25:04Speaker 2: And I wish you all the best. And the other
- 25:05Speaker 2: person to mention is Rob Hurst. And Rob was the
- 25:08Speaker 2: drummer for Midnight Oil. He formed the bare back of
- 25:11Speaker 2: the seventies. When you think of Midnight Oil, you think
- 25:13Speaker 2: of Peter Garrett. But Rob was the real driving force,
- 25:15Speaker 2: big fighter for the environment and most of all an
- 25:18Speaker 2: extraordinary drummer. And did you know that Pete Townsend from
- 25:21Speaker 2: the Who once said that after Keith Moon, Rob was
- 25:24Speaker 2: the greatest drummer in rock and just after Midnight Oil
- 25:27Speaker 2: called it a day. Three years ago he found out
- 25:29Speaker 2: he had pancreatic cancer, which he finally succumbed to Rob Hurst,
- 25:33Speaker 2: great drummer, good bloke, Rest in peace.
- 25:37Speaker 7: All right.
- 25:37Speaker 2: On the way McCann from the United States of America,
- 25:40Speaker 2: And in fact we'll go to Iowa to talk about
- 25:42Speaker 2: the economy of the world. Right now, it's News Talk ZB.
- 25:45Speaker 1: International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
- 25:49Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business thirteen.
- 25:51Speaker 2: To stick to the abouted States, we go. Mitch mcchanical
- 25:54Speaker 2: bought it to here. Good morning, Andrew, how are you
- 25:56Speaker 2: very well? The much anticipated Trump speeched That's what did
- 26:00Speaker 2: he say?
- 26:01Speaker 13: Yeah, he gave a very long speech at the World
- 26:04Speaker 13: Economic Forum this swarum this morning. He covered a wide
- 26:06Speaker 13: range of topics, as he often does, but there were
- 26:08Speaker 13: a few key headlines from that speech. Andrew, if we
- 26:12Speaker 13: look at Greenland first, he said Denmark should be giving
- 26:15Speaker 13: Greenland to the United States and that no other country
- 26:18Speaker 13: can secure it. But he also said that he would
- 26:22Speaker 13: not be using force. Now, this is something that many
- 26:25Speaker 13: NATO countries have been concerned about in recent days, whether
- 26:27Speaker 13: the US would simply fly in with the military equipment.
- 26:31Speaker 13: He said that won't be happening. But if they don't
- 26:33Speaker 13: acquire or they don't get given Greenland, the USA will
- 26:37Speaker 13: certainly remember it. He also had some policy he announced
- 26:41Speaker 13: around capping credit card interest rates here in the US,
- 26:44Speaker 13: and he also said he made some news where he
- 26:46Speaker 13: said there'll be prosecutions for the twenty twenty election, which
- 26:49Speaker 13: he is still six years later saying was stolen. So
- 26:53Speaker 13: some prosecutions coming there. It's fair to say he's likely
- 26:56Speaker 13: to have a frosty reception in Switzerland. He also chose
- 26:59Speaker 13: to take aim other leaders like Mark Carney and Emmanuel
- 27:02Speaker 13: Macron of France.
- 27:04Speaker 2: All right, Meanwhile, there's fires burning back in the mainland
- 27:06Speaker 2: of the United States as well, with a very big
- 27:09Speaker 2: court case about the power of the president over the
- 27:12Speaker 2: Federal Reserve. This is featuring Lisa Cook. What's happening there.
- 27:16Speaker 13: Yeah, that's right. The Supreme Court is hearing arguments on
- 27:19Speaker 13: Donald Trump's attempts to fire one of the Federal Reserve
- 27:22Speaker 13: governors today, Lisa Cook. Now, Donald Trump has had a
- 27:24Speaker 13: problem with the Fed for many months now because they
- 27:27Speaker 13: haven't been lowering interest ratets as fast and as often
- 27:31Speaker 13: as he would like. So he's trying to fire one
- 27:33Speaker 13: of the governors. But the pretext to this is he
- 27:35Speaker 13: saying that she's committed mortgage fraud on a number of
- 27:38Speaker 13: her properties. He's not firing her because of anything she's
- 27:42Speaker 13: done on the Board of Governors, according to Donald Trump. Instead,
- 27:46Speaker 13: he's using this as mortgage fraud. So that's going to
- 27:49Speaker 13: the Supreme Court today, and it's an incredibly important case
- 27:53Speaker 13: for presidential power in this country. We're not going to
- 27:55Speaker 13: get a result today, but they are hearing arguments in
- 27:58Speaker 13: Washington at the moment. Me, my, you're a bit chilly,
- 28:03Speaker 13: are we what? I woke up this morning? It was
- 28:04Speaker 13: minus eleven degrees here in New York. America's National Weather
- 28:08Speaker 13: Service has imposed winter storm watchers for much of the
- 28:11Speaker 13: country around twenty states in the coming days. ACU Weathers
- 28:15Speaker 13: is potentially hundreds of thousands of people may go without
- 28:18Speaker 13: power and heat for days. Andrew. Earlier this week there
- 28:22Speaker 13: was a piloup because of white out conditions in Michigan,
- 28:25Speaker 13: involving more than one hundred vehicles.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I've seen some remarkable videos on social media
- 28:30Speaker 2: of cars cascading downhills on Black Eyes as a tragedy.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Mitchell mccamb from the United States of America, thank you
- 28:37Speaker 2: so much for your time today.
- 28:38Speaker 13: Thanks, Andrew the best.
- 28:39Speaker 2: It is ten to six, zibby. So obviously it's a
- 28:44Speaker 2: big story of the world at the moment, with the
- 28:45Speaker 2: President of the United States coming after Greenland saying he
- 28:48Speaker 2: will not use excessive force.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Now I'm seeking immediate negotiations to once again discuss the
- 28:54Speaker 3: acquisition of Greenland by the United States. We probably won't
- 28:58Speaker 3: get anything unless.
- 28:59Speaker 2: They just I to use excessive.
- 29:01Speaker 3: Strength and force, where we would be frankly unstoppable.
- 29:05Speaker 8: But I won't do that.
- 29:08Speaker 9: I don't have to use force.
- 29:08Speaker 3: I don't want to use force.
- 29:09Speaker 8: I won't use force.
- 29:11Speaker 9: All the United.
- 29:11Speaker 3: States is asking for is a place called Greenland.
- 29:15Speaker 2: And University of Iowa economics professor and Villamill joins me
- 29:18Speaker 2: now from the United statescon good morning to you, and
- 29:21Speaker 2: good morning. This is an economic forum, and this is
- 29:24Speaker 2: what it's not about geopolitics and land grabs as such.
- 29:28Speaker 2: But we are looking at a tariff war between Europe
- 29:31Speaker 2: and America. Now, how real is that threatened? How do
- 29:34Speaker 2: you expect the EU to react?
- 29:37Speaker 6: Uh, the tariff war is extremely concerning. You could do
- 29:41Speaker 6: a lot of economic damage to.
- 29:44Speaker 9: The world.
- 29:45Speaker 6: And that's what happens when you have a a you know,
- 29:54Speaker 6: global taraf So so I'm quite concerned about it.
- 29:59Speaker 2: All right, How would it affect the Americans? I mean,
- 30:03Speaker 2: if the you went through with this, could the UA's
- 30:05Speaker 2: economy take the hit that they're talking about in Europe?
- 30:10Speaker 6: Yes, both sides will though I mean, that's the problem
- 30:13Speaker 6: with tariffs. Everybody loses, so it's not something that we
- 30:18Speaker 6: should be doing. It is encouraging today to hear that
- 30:21Speaker 6: President Trump said he won't take Greenland by force, but
- 30:25Speaker 6: there are a lot of other tools on both sides,
- 30:30Speaker 6: meaning tariffs. You know, how did this most recent iteration start.
- 30:37Speaker 6: Trump promise to put tariffs on eight European countries currently
- 30:45Speaker 6: at ten percent until February first, and then ratcheting up
- 30:50Speaker 6: to twenty five percent. So that will be huge for
- 30:54Speaker 6: those countries. They had to react, and they now have
- 31:00Speaker 6: a tool that they can use in order. It's called
- 31:05Speaker 6: the europe Anti Coercion Instrument where they can reply.
- 31:11Speaker 2: So okay, So the United States markets rebounded after the
- 31:17Speaker 2: prison said he wouldn't use force to acquire Greenland, And
- 31:20Speaker 2: it shows you just how powerful his words are.
- 31:22Speaker 9: Doesn't it to not extend how powerful his words are,
- 31:26Speaker 9: but to an even larger extent, how powerful international capital
- 31:32Speaker 9: markets are.
- 31:34Speaker 6: President Trump has said that he is basically all powerful
- 31:39Speaker 6: and he is only limited by you know, kind of.
- 31:42Speaker 9: His own.
- 31:44Speaker 12: His own views.
- 31:46Speaker 9: That's not true.
- 31:48Speaker 6: The US has a big debt and deficit, and it
- 31:52Speaker 6: needs to finance that debt. And deficit, and what we
- 31:57Speaker 6: saw yesterday. The reason that markets decl is because interest
- 32:02Speaker 6: rates went up. And President Trump is not sensitive to
- 32:07Speaker 6: a lot of things. He is sensitive to market and
- 32:12Speaker 6: when the markets.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely he is sensitive to markets. Out I've been
- 32:15Speaker 2: in a little University of Iowa economics professor I thank
- 32:18Speaker 2: you for your time today. It is six minutes to.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Six on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition
- 32:26Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live
- 32:29Speaker 1: News Talk said, be.
- 32:31Speaker 2: It's time for me to go and head out into
- 32:33Speaker 2: the light to drizzle, which that the rain was persistent
- 32:37Speaker 2: all day yesterday was really was quite incredible. Happens every January,
- 32:40Speaker 2: doesn't we get a tropical storm? And Mike Hoskins with
- 32:43Speaker 2: us Morning Morning.
- 32:44Speaker 14: Quick question, is our Trump's words really all powerful? Or
- 32:49Speaker 14: are we just thick? Because honestly, did you, honestly, heart
- 32:54Speaker 14: of hearts, believe he was ever going to invade Greenland? No,
- 32:59Speaker 14: of course not.
- 33:00Speaker 7: So.
- 33:00Speaker 14: Therefore, given he's been around for well, forget the other
- 33:03Speaker 14: four years, an entire year for a second time round,
- 33:06Speaker 14: and given he uses the same trick literally every time,
- 33:09Speaker 14: why are we still falling for the same He's just
- 33:13Speaker 14: the metal with us.
- 33:13Speaker 2: He just hears stuff. You know, Carne wrote a speech
- 33:17Speaker 2: which I'm really Late's speech was seventy two minutes long.
- 33:21Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there was nothing written down by it.
- 33:23Speaker 2: He just throws out some words, watches the reaction, and
- 33:26Speaker 2: then decides what to do next.
- 33:28Speaker 14: Yeah, he was never invaded in Greenland. It'll all work
- 33:30Speaker 14: out well, it'll eventually in some way shape or form,
- 33:33Speaker 14: because at the basis of everything he says is a
- 33:36Speaker 14: seed of common sense, and that is that Greenland needs
- 33:38Speaker 14: a bit of a look at in terms of security.
- 33:40Speaker 14: Everyone agrees with that, no one disagrees with that. Then
- 33:42Speaker 14: all the hyperbole comes in. Everyone out NATO.
- 33:45Speaker 2: NATO has spent some money.
- 33:46Speaker 14: That's the weirdest thing, isn't it. Anyway, we'll have more
- 33:48Speaker 14: on that. Tony Brown's with us this morning. By the way,
- 33:50Speaker 14: you all black coach.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Okay, you know something that nobody else knows. But that's
- 33:55Speaker 2: your show, and I thank you so much. Make Asking
- 33:58Speaker 2: next and News is Spot a few others time. My
- 34:00Speaker 2: thanks to producer Kinsey.
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