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Eagles At Crossroads Headed Into Major Week 7 Showdown Vs. Vikings · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on? Everybody? Jeff Mosher,
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan.
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  Speaker 2: It's the middle of the week inside the Birds and
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles and Adam, I gotta say, I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think this is understating it.
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  Speaker 2: This Week seven game coming up against the Minnesota Vikings
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday in Minnesota is somewhat of a cross It
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  Speaker 2: could be somewhat of a crossroads game for this team
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  Speaker 2: coming off two straight losses and all the negativity. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not saying if they lose, the sky is definitely falling,
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  Speaker 2: but it'll feel like that and you will really start
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  Speaker 2: to question.
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  Speaker 1: If the Eagles can get right.
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  Speaker 2: If they can't be right all year and then have
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  Speaker 2: three straight losses, this is a big game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't lost three straights since twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 3: when they lost weeks third. We're talking regular season game
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  Speaker 3: weeks thirteen or fifteen the Niners at home where they
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  Speaker 3: got blown out out. This is the mythst of everything
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  Speaker 3: that the offensive defense completely fell out. Defense was first
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  Speaker 3: than the offense did. Then they got smoked at Dallas
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, we don't need to get in
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  Speaker 3: that Seattle game. That was when it you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is the exposure of Patricia and you know, there was
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  Speaker 3: just an absolute night. It's just a terrible performance.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, you know it.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know fans have been saying for like,
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  Speaker 3: not six weeks, like three or four weeks about the
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  Speaker 3: vibes of twenty three, and I've I've resisted the temptation
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  Speaker 3: to acknowledge it that it's real. I'm with you, guys, certainly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm getting there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the seeds, some seeds are being sown. We try
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  Speaker 1: not to overreact.
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  Speaker 3: In eight years, we've sorry if you're doing it. We
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  Speaker 3: don't go by media narratives or craziness of the fans,
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  Speaker 3: but we're aware of it. And social media. Jeff and
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  Speaker 3: I check. Obviously, I'm starting to because we read the
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  Speaker 3: YouTube comments. We have to clean out the riff raff
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  Speaker 3: in the nonsense. It's another story. We some of these,
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  Speaker 3: some of these and it's funny to see the infighting
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  Speaker 3: between people. Well it's actual.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know both people, whether I agree
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  Speaker 1: with them or not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly, but anyway, Yeah, look I get it.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's look, they are foreign too, But you don't
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  Speaker 3: put a you don't put like you know, jacket over
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  Speaker 3: your head and hide. You have to acknowledge some of
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  Speaker 3: the issues, and the defense is not carry of the
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  Speaker 3: offense anymore. That's out the door. Boy. They got manhandled.
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  Speaker 3: We did on our tape show with Cosel fans slid
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  Speaker 3: you could. It's one of the few times when you
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  Speaker 3: watch television you're actually right when you watch it. You
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  Speaker 3: don't need the cooking tape. They got the kicked out
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  Speaker 3: of them, and wow, that was bad. But you said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this is a game now on the road again. We
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  Speaker 3: know on our Syriani they've been a terrific one of
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  Speaker 3: the best road teams percentage wise of any head coach
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  Speaker 3: in NFL history over the first five years of his career.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, Minnesota's a good team. They're going
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  Speaker 3: to get some of their offensive lineman back. They think
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  Speaker 3: this week they've been decimated by injury. We'll get into
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  Speaker 3: the Carson Wentz situation, which the fascinating YEP talked to
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  Speaker 3: Mike Momola about it, who did our show on WBCB.
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  Speaker 3: We love having Mike and Merrill. Malurice with Mike.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. That was a different kind of Mike and
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  Speaker 1: Merrill that people are used to Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly right. It was phenomenal. I've known Mike Mamula for
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  Speaker 3: a year. For a couple of years, we played golf together,
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  Speaker 3: and I love the guy, and he's he knows his
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  Speaker 3: career better than anyone. So I totally forgot about. One
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  Speaker 3: of the best game of his career was against Kurt Warner.
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  Speaker 1: YEP, two sacks and an iron t.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, Wait, now did you hear the hymn said? Did
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  Speaker 3: you remember that?
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  Speaker 1: I listened to all inside the Birds?
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  Speaker 3: Oh you heard it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't just produce. I'm not just a nice job.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was gonna say, did you actually know that?
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  Speaker 3: So you Joe a camera for a second knows everything.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if Joe knew that.
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  Speaker 1: Probably knowing the camera, he probably did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably reading in the hotel. But anyway, I couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: Probably he couldn't name the starting quarterback for like the
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  Speaker 2: Lions right now, but he could probably tell you what
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  Speaker 2: happened in nineteen ninety four.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy. So look, as we get into it, we acknowledge
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  Speaker 3: your stuff that we acknowledge. I've got problems from both
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  Speaker 3: sides of the football. You're joking the other day, these
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  Speaker 3: special teams can't carry them anymore with the kickoff returns,
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  Speaker 3: which are horrific. Right, But as we say, when the
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  Speaker 3: kicker and punter are the best part of the football team, yeah, problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, even that is hard to celebrate
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  Speaker 2: because the kick returner and the punt returners have been
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  Speaker 2: so bad. You heard me really go I don't usually
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  Speaker 2: go off, but on my interview with Mike gil on
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  Speaker 2: Football at four on Wednesday, we.
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  Speaker 1: Were talking about how bad the return games have been.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because it's really impacting the team in a
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  Speaker 2: way that a lot of people aren't discussing. And that's
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  Speaker 2: average starting fuel position has been awful, and it's their
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  Speaker 2: own doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like.
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  Speaker 2: These are great punts or anything, or they're just muffing
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  Speaker 2: and botching kickoffs and punt returns, either catching them too
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  Speaker 2: deeply inside the five or or just not catching the ball.
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  Speaker 3: It's bad, all right. So for the people on Britain,
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  Speaker 3: Covey as a kickoff returner. So this is what a
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  Speaker 3: special teams coach told me over the summer. I haven't
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  Speaker 3: really talked much about this so on my travels because
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  Speaker 3: I I'm trying to learn the duel kickoff on what
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  Speaker 3: they look for and just just what they want. And
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  Speaker 3: they want bigger backs, they want running backs. They don't
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  Speaker 3: want receivers back there if they can help it. Kickoff
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  Speaker 3: return right, yes, yes, a good point. Just be clear,
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  Speaker 3: it's a physical return. Now you have to dual returners. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: you want someone who's physical, because what happens is you're
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  Speaker 3: catching it. You know you're you're generally catching it much
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  Speaker 3: farther upfield. Right. The other thing is because they're close
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  Speaker 3: the the the defenders are closer to you want to
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  Speaker 3: be when I'm physical guys there. So the people want
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  Speaker 3: Britain Cobby back there. I'm not saying it can't happen.
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  Speaker 3: It's not ideal. We've called him the crash dummy, that's
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  Speaker 3: what we called him. But he was so good as
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  Speaker 3: a putt returner. Now that gets to my next point.
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  Speaker 3: We don't talk about specials enough. Why the hell is
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  Speaker 3: he not returning special on punts here?
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand him, Xavier Gibson, I mean I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I really and and Stephen, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Bigsby has any.
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  Speaker 2: Punt return, but Johanna and is not getting the job done,
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  Speaker 2: and they have guys who have a track record of
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  Speaker 2: getting the job done, and it just seems very interesting
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  Speaker 2: to me that they're not making that change yet.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I would tell you that now. I also want
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  Speaker 3: to just put this out there. You get roles by
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  Speaker 3: how you perform practice. Okay, generally talking to coaches for
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  Speaker 3: a couple of decades. You can't just give in to
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  Speaker 3: the obvious. If the guy's not doing it, he's not
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  Speaker 3: going to get the role. I get that. But Covey's
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  Speaker 3: done it before and done damn well, we know he's
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  Speaker 3: over the neck injury. That's not the problem. So I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to see I like to see this here. I
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  Speaker 3: like to see him do that. I'm just glad we
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  Speaker 3: addressed this because it's there's things that there are things
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  Speaker 3: that they control. The coaches do that. It's not the
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  Speaker 3: front office's problem. They brought David Gibson and he had
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  Speaker 3: a ball at ball control issue. I had ball security issue.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me with the Jets. That's why I got cut.
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  Speaker 3: The guy could do it and one of the the
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  Speaker 3: next two or three weeks, this has got to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yet another part of the major self scout that they're
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  Speaker 3: going to have after week gate boy, Sirianni, he's got
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  Speaker 3: a laundry list here. Okay, he certainly does way longer
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  Speaker 3: for his self. Scout man it you know how any
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  Speaker 3: kicks the coaches out, taking the coaches out, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be doing that.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So a couple of good things here. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about in this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna get through some transition transactions that are
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  Speaker 2: really important that have happened since we last talked. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get into intel on that. We'll give intel on the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles injury updates. Some good news there which the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: can be happy about, but also some good news for
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  Speaker 2: the Vikings on the injury front that we'll get into
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  Speaker 2: as well. And I would say the best news for
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles, Adam, since Thursday, since they lost their second straight,
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that both the Commanders and the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: lost their game too. So those two teams blew a
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  Speaker 2: really good opportunity to gain a ground on the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: So you never want to lose games.
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  Speaker 2: But certainly the NFC East still for the Eagles are
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  Speaker 2: still in good position now as long as they can
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  Speaker 2: get themselves on track. Let's talk about though, the difficulty
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  Speaker 2: in that in some of the transactions. The big one
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  Speaker 2: was on Monday, Darius Smith just abruptly announces on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: that he's calling it quits. And this is not a
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  Speaker 2: good thing in development for the Eagles. They were already
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  Speaker 2: thin at the edge position and he was playing well.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a third part of this that's really going
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  Speaker 2: to hurt them that I'll get into in a second,
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  Speaker 2: but just the initial announcement and the depth issues.
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  Speaker 1: Are really going to be difficult for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Here. I was stunned because players generally retire three times, okay,
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  Speaker 3: right after the season's over, yep, okay, right before the draft,
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  Speaker 3: which teams hate. They wanted this done, like if they
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  Speaker 3: know a big time Sometimes when a big time player
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  Speaker 3: retires suddenly when they don't expect it or they're thinking
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  Speaker 3: about it, but they don't the club thinks the guy's
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  Speaker 3: not going to retire and he changed his mind. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that transit, or he does it right after the draft
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  Speaker 3: and they didn't address it before the draft or right
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  Speaker 3: for training camps, the classic one because guys they just
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  Speaker 3: don't want to go through it anymore. They're done, right,
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  Speaker 3: This is crazy now now I would I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 3: one thing though, that happened, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: this had anything to do with it, but I've looked around,
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  Speaker 3: but I haven't gotten. I haven't got a hard confirm
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  Speaker 3: on it. No one I got. I just didn't get
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  Speaker 3: it like I thought I might get it. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the snap counts, not only that,
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  Speaker 3: not only did he play less than than Heli, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't start. He didn't play a lot right last week.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know if that had anything to do
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  Speaker 3: with it, but that was odd to me. It's odd.
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  Speaker 2: It was so strange because all they've done is talk
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  Speaker 2: about how well he's played, given that he wasn't with
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  Speaker 2: him in OTAs, wasn't with him in training camp, got
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  Speaker 2: in there, made the immediate impact, and then he played
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  Speaker 2: fewer snaps and yeah, still never really got clarity on that.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Ojelari played a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe that's because they thought against his old team
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  Speaker 2: he'd be fired up.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, but it was very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: But Adam Nolan Smith, all right, this guy is still
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  Speaker 2: weeks away. You know, they're they're talking about after the
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  Speaker 2: buye hopefully for the Packers game.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so now you got four.
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  Speaker 3: Gotten that by the way, that's that's that's optimistic, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: to be fair, that's scenario. He's already had one setback
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  Speaker 3: after the surgery, so this is not good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I actually, uh, for those who read me on Philly Voice,
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  Speaker 2: I did an interview on Wednesday with a doctor.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: We have a relationship with Trinity Health. We talked to
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  Speaker 1: doctors about injuries.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the doctors can only speak on injuries, not
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  Speaker 2: the exact player, right, they don't. But you know, I
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  Speaker 2: did ask him about the history of because it happened
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  Speaker 2: to Brandon Graham twice and now Smith had the repair
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  Speaker 2: and now a reaggravation a strain. What does that mean
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  Speaker 2: for him for this year in his future? And he
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  Speaker 2: did say, if you have multiple injuries here and you
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  Speaker 2: have a repair and then you follow up with a strain,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like you're I think his words where it's
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  Speaker 2: not yeah, kevlar, you know, you're like, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a damage, good arm there, and
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  Speaker 2: so he'll probably be in a brace when he comes back.
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  Speaker 2: And then the the concept or the notion that he
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  Speaker 2: might re enjoy it again. If he's not, if he's
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  Speaker 2: taking a beating on, it could happen. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's not you don't start fresh. With some injuries, you
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  Speaker 2: heal up. You get a bruise, you heal up, you're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're you're prone to having a bruise again.
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  Speaker 2: But with tears, you heal up. And we saw Brandon Graham.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's easier if you don't give it enough time,
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  Speaker 2: or if you continue to have contact in that area
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  Speaker 2: to reaggravate.
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  Speaker 1: So you have.
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  Speaker 2: To you have to hope that A they can hold
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  Speaker 2: the fort down here until Nolan Smith gets back, and
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  Speaker 2: then b when he does get back, he's impactful with
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  Speaker 2: the brace on, and that he doesn't have any other aggravations.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very tough deal. It's you just don't know,
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  Speaker 3: and aggravating a previous injury is a to deal. You
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  Speaker 3: just don't know what to expect right and it's they're
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  Speaker 3: in a dire straits right now. Just to be clear
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  Speaker 3: and what we'll talk more about the trade deadline. It's
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  Speaker 3: not till the fourth. We know some teams may trade soon.
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  Speaker 3: Eagles are looking for edge help. Okay, so so is
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  Speaker 3: like twenty teams. Yeah, just looking into this, like there's
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  Speaker 3: so many teams on edge rushers. It's just I always say,
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  Speaker 3: is if if everybody watching those you and I know
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  Speaker 3: that they need edge rush help in a big way,
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  Speaker 3: the corners way bigger opposite Mitchell, like, that's that's the
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  Speaker 3: Mount rushmorev needs of the Eagles. That second is edge
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the most popular positions in in the
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  Speaker 3: National Footballague. So yeah, it's just just be careful getting
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  Speaker 3: your hopes up to all. I'm not saying they're not
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  Speaker 3: going to get somebody. Just just just we'll see. I
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: try not to I try it because people like to
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  Speaker 3: quote us. You said they were gonna I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that just relax a little bit. Well
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  Speaker 3: if we if we hear stuff about who it might be,
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  Speaker 3: Like people mentioned Bradley Chubb. That's the most obvious one,
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  Speaker 3: by the way. It's a great guy, high character, thirty
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  Speaker 3: years old, good player, he's doing well for the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: He's healthy, he's in the back nine of his career.
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  Speaker 3: He's a good guy to acquire. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 3: because everybody knows who needs an che rush. There can
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  Speaker 3: be a lot of teams in on him.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: So if hegals don't get him, don't be so heartbroken.
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  Speaker 3: How he knows what he's doing. The guy, why is
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  Speaker 3: he the best GM? We We've had our criticisms of
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  Speaker 3: him when it's been warranted because he gets it. He's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna he's not gonna put his head and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we're good with these guys are Antoine Powellriland's never playing
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  Speaker 3: in an NFL game. He knows they're not good enough,
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  Speaker 3: right right, Just he's on it, trust me.
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  Speaker 1: So Chubb would be good if you could get him.
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  Speaker 1: For another reason that I was going to get into
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  Speaker 1: with losing.
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  Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith, so Zadarius Smith was not only probably their
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  Speaker 2: most productive pass rush over the last three weeks, but
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  Speaker 2: by far their most their biggest guy at six four,
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  Speaker 2: two seventy and right now, without him, you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: a two hundred and twenty six pound two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty three pound uh jay Alex Hunt a two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and forty pound uh as he's o Jealari right and
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  Speaker 2: if Patrick Johnson gets in, he's about two forty five.
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  Speaker 2: So I did the average year, you're about two forty
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  Speaker 2: two and a half on the edges as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: last year when you had two hundred and sixty five
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  Speaker 2: pound Josh Sweat two hundred and sixty five pound Brandon Graham.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys were both good duel though they could play
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  Speaker 2: the run.
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  Speaker 3: Wedding was always good against the run. In fact, I
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  Speaker 3: remember him playing their base defense occasionally when he was young,
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  Speaker 3: in first couple of years. That's the way they got
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  Speaker 3: him on the field. He started as actually a run defender, yep,
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  Speaker 3: and he became a dual player. But and the other
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: thing is, let's not forget the Jene plays in the
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  Speaker 3: box like Bill Hamm is an added in defender against
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: the run. And we've put it out with the tape.
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  Speaker 3: He he gets moved sometimes and there they have run defense.
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  Speaker 3: Another one of our surprises. We didn't see happening there.
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  Speaker 3: We knew o Jilari be an issue. I mean, not
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  Speaker 3: ojelari a moro jum against the run that was not
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  Speaker 3: a s but and Carter being hurt that's obviously a problem.
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  Speaker 3: But it's this run defense, man, I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: much better it's going to get. This is this is
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Vic knew this, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think the coaches knew this. But the defense now is
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  Speaker 3: not carrying the offense anymore. And on your point, this
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: is a big week for this football team.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, sure, and you know I know that Vic sort
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: of teased or with the Kobe back, maybe you can
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: play John Campbell a little bit more on the edges.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Well guess what he asked that?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he's two hundred and thirty five pounds, So
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're not getting yourself any bigger on the edges.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Like two thirty five? Was he only two thirty five?
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Well that's what it is listed size.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe who knows, But the point is
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: he's not two seventy like they're they're used to having.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: So it does feel like right now the Eagles are
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: trying to put it all together with a bunch of
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: situational pass rushers and not somebody built for to be
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: a three down edge rusher as Jill's still developing. So
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: that is obviously an issue going into the Vikings game.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: And look with Ojlari, Look the first game that he started,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: he looked really good. Right, In fact, the first time
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: he played, he looked really good. Excuse me, look really good.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Played forty percent of snaps. He went from zero to
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: forty percent of snaps. Understand. He was signed here to
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: be a situational pass rush okay, or as they call DPR,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: designated pass rusher. He's on a starter, like, you can't
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: have this, but they only have four guys left. Patrick Johnson, Okay,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: who's really if you have your brothers is only playing
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: the special teams. But they have who they have. He's
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: got to play at a great train of camp. But
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: we've seen this before from him, and he's just not
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: a great pass rusher. Okay, he's the fourth right now.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Oh is He's explosive, but he's smaller. Okay, that's a problem.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: He's smaller, and you look at the Oja Lari is
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: having to start. I mean, that's just not what you want.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: But I mean, hopefully for the Eagle's sake, they've they
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: make moves next week. The other thing I mentioned this
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: on Monday, they the only player they worked They actually
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: worked two players out, the kid Titus Leo who they signed,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: will get to him in a minute, and they worked
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: out Drake Jackson, who signed with the former second rounder
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: who was pretty much injured his whole career with the Niners.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: He signed with the Commandos, so acknowledging again, well he
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: should they should look at him anyway. Why wouldn't know
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: he's out there? He was on a workout tour. But
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: bottom line is, man, their paper fin at a bunch
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: of positions and it's it's going to be harder and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: harder for them to hold this up. They're good. How
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: he's again got to do something soon? Right? All right?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: The practice squad moves you were referring to, they release
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: running back Audric Estime.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: We hardly knew.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Ye never really had an opportunity. Uh, wide receiver Javon Baker.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: He was with the Patriots, right, and then they brought
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: him in was at.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: The Yeah he's a fourth rounder, right, I believe without
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: looking at South Florida.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I believe you're right on that. Yep.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he can run good size. But they they, the Patriots,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I know for fact, did not want him. It's kind
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: of weird. They they they kind of like realized they
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: they've been trying to trade Kyle Duggar. After they did,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: It's crazy. They extended his contract and then decided that
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: we don't like him anymore. So they're trying to trade him.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: You know, every time a new regime comes in. You
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: see that, you see that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, but but Elliott Wolf it was his
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: decision that he was there last year. They extended him
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: in April of twenty twenty four.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm saying with Rabel. Rabel may not
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: have liked it. Maybe not.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know. It's just weird. And Baker
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: the stat they didn't like him at all for I understand,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and you mentioned estimate. Yeah, I mean, now on the
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Eagles sixty nine man roster, uh, they they have four
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: running backs and they're all in the fifty three. They
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: don't have one in the practic card, which is fine.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: You The number we were given is teams need to
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: have you need to have four, right, four running backs,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So they have four, yep, So they're fine there. They
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: don't need anyone else. So good because if you look
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: at the practically, oh my god, they don't have any
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: running backs. It's okay, they have four in their fifty
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: three bigsby binggs. But yes, that guy, yeah, he's there,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: four all.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Right, And of course Eli Rix they once again this
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: is still I wouldn't be surprised if Rix was back
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: in a week or two.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They're doing roster They've been doing roster tango, practice squad
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: roster tango with Rix for quite a bit. And then
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they signed two guys and three. Sorry, we had a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: little bit of a joke. One's a tight end Jahem Bell.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Now he was with the Dolphins. I thought he was.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: He was with a team before that.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: All was drafted in the seventh round last year and cut.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: He's a former receiver in high school. He's undered. He's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: he's a slightly bigger weight wise than Grants, and I
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: think he's he's sort of built like an h back
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: six two to forty ish. Then not Leo Titus Titus
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Leo to Matt Leo. No, No, Titus Leo played for
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that football powerhouse, Wagner.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Wagner in Staten Island.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah, I think he's actually from Stanton.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I just Alan knew this guy. Stout had to know
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: this guy. He knew maybe he knew somewhere.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Not Leo Titus. Yeah, he worked out from Tuesday. They
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: signed him. Good for him, Uh, developmental. He was a
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: six round pick. I believe the Colts so you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll take a look at him, and he's back.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Tariq Castro Fields from your school, Penn State. Uh so
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: he's back on the practice squad. So yeah, he boy,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Craster Fields is man. They like, he's got good size,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: but it wouldn't be funn if he actually played this week.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: It'd be funny.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be funny for Eagles fans,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I got it all right.
• 20:33
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• 20:36
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  Speaker 2: reports were out there observing that Landon Dickerson, Quinna Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: Limited, Quinya, Mitchell limited. But Carter, this is big to me.
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• 23:23
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• 23:25
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• 23:27
  Speaker 1: So very big right there.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: That's huge. It's absolutely huge that Carter says he's playing. Now,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I know it's not his call. I mean, he's got
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to get cleared medically, but the fact that he took
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: starters reps almost all of them on Wednesday. That's huge,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: which means Unlessie has a setback, he's playing. But that's
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: something would have to happen. I unfortate. I've seen this before.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: The guy works full of feeling good, something happens overnight,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: we're too sore, and they knack off Thursday. Like, if
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: he's limited Thursday, I'm gonna be a little bit concerned. Now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I will so tell you. Sometimes clubs this is their plan.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Let's see how you're doing Wednesday, let's back off Thursday.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: But more often than not, it is a concern. If
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: he's limited Thursday today, which is today, we'll see what happens.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And Jordan Davis says, this is new. He's added with
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: his shoulder injury, but he took all the rep he
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: took all his normal reps. Zach Boughd has a new injury.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: It's a finger injury. He took all his reps. He's
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: ready to go Quinna now, now just be careful on Wednesday.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I'm very happy that he You should be eagle fans
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: should be happy. And for fantasy, like if you're if
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you're if your player who had a hamstering injury on
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Sunday is out there Wednesday. Even if he's very limited,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: it tells you, hey, it's not going to be a
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: long term injury. It's short term, and there was a
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: chance he plays. The fact that he's out there gives
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you some hope. Now it's a hamstering injury. Couldn't come
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: back last week. He's going to have to have a
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: full practice by Friday. The chances I'm playing are next
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: to none. If he doesn't have a full practice, it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: it almost is like one hundred percent if he doesn't
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: have a full practice. With players who don't practice fully
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: with a hamster injury, they just don't play right. You
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: have to see him open it up in practice, not
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: in a walk through on a Saturday in this case.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But hey, there's hope. At least he worked, so there's
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: some hope.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And by the way, good point about that, this was
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: definitely a practice on Wednesday.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It was not an estimation from a walkthrough.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: They were out on the practice field doing their thing,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: so that's always good. Greg Calcaterras field dealing with the oblique.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: He was the only one that did not practice.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, first of all, going back to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Carter very, I think it's a really good sign that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: he was able to practice full on Wednesday, as opposed
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to with a.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Heel like that.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I thought I suspected he would start off limited and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: then you get the test the next day to see
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: how that work, how your injury responded. But the fact
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that he went straight to full is pretty good. Now
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: they still have to see the response today, and like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you said, there could be a setback, but showed that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: he's been feeling pretty good over the last few days
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: in whatever he's been doing to get out on the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: field and be able to fully practice.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I've metioned this before on Michigan MC shannon
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: hand did such a phenomenal job. This is because for
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: those of us who played fantasy, they used to say
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Shanahan would play with the injury report, but and they
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: actually got nailed for it. They got they got fined
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: many years ago when he was with Denver. But what
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Mike said was, look when he would deal with the
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: media and he he he was actually pretty good with
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the stuff. But then when he'd say, hey, yeah, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: think this guy will plan, he wouldn't play. You gotta
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: understand if the guy's a setback, it's not my fault.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, as of now, I leieve he'll play,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: but if the guy's a setback, it's not his fault
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: if he has one. If he has a setback, So
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: you gotta be careful with that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Right right. So that's that's a pretty good look right
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: there for the Eagles.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've got we'll we'll get we'll cover it
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: more on the inside the Birds pregame show, which will
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: come out Saturday morning, six.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Six am, get ready, right and early.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Man and I then we'll know how the rest of
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the week shaped up for Landon Dickerson and Quinnon Mitchell,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: and then we'll be able to really fully see if
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the Eagles are gonna be a close to full strength
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: as they possibly can. And I think you would feel
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: a lot better if Dickerson and Mitchell were practicing in
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: full by Friday and.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Their availability would be there for the game.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Let's switch gears here and talk about a Minnesota Vikings
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: team that has been battling injuries all year long, but
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: they're getting a little healthier at some really important positions
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: offensive line, quarterback, few on defense.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go through that, Adam.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, the big one for them is JJ McCarthy,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: who was limited in practice. You know he's trying to
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: work his way back. He is he in the window
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: or did he never go on ir fis.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: He never went on IRAQ was like he had a
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: mild high ankle sprain, as I understand it. So, okay,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: here's the thing, and we'll look at the practice reports
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: as the week progresses. Unless he takes a majority of
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: the one team, he's not gonna You're not doing that
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: a young player, who right, You just don't. You don't,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You don't. Don't give the guy deference if he's not
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a veteran, you just don't. I just know how coaches
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: think he is their future quarterback. They love him. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: know he didn't play well before he got hurt, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: he's a guy that looked great in training camp, his
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: final two weeks of training camp. I was told last
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: before he tourist Petella, plus the Raider game where he
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: got hurt, he was phenomenal. See, people forget about that stuff.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: They look at what training camp uneven this year and
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: he missed obviously all of last year, never played in
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: the regular season. But he's got talent. Now. Kevin O'Connell's
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: done a phenomenal job with this kid. You and I know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: team's a game of three. They don't like a lot
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: of two. Didn't like him, yep, but we'll see. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Wentz looked phenomenal against Cleveland, up and down against Pittsburgh.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: First game he played was a Cincinnati. He didn't have
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to do anything. They were I think they won ten. Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: but we'll see what happens this week.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think you and I have seen this
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: enough to know and like, if you have a veteran
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: back of black Carson who's a full participant on Wednesday,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: he was dealing with the shoulder full a young shoulder,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: left shoulder, right, and you have a young kid like
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: McCarthy who's just in his first year as a starter
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and he's limited Wednesday, it almost already arrow points to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. There would have to be you would have
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to see McCarthy tape, in my opinion to give it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: just I'm reporting opinion here right. McCarthy is not by
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: by Thursday. I mean, at least a full participant in practice.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's gonna go out there and play.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's got to have practices.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know a time where the backup took the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: majority of the reps and the the the the rook
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: you know, the first form or first of the first
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: round pick. Oh, they love him, gets limited reps and
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: he starts. It just doesn't happen like it's not smart football.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: So I'd be stunned if that happened. But you gotta
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: see what happens today, which is Thursday. Let's say he
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: racts to that. But the good Now, their offensive line
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: has been incredibly banged up. As I go through their
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: injury report.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So I know Brian O'Neill was a was a big
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: injury for them, right, he was limited on Wednesday.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, so let me go through their offensive
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: line because they got all sorts of problems. So Donovan Jackson,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: their outstanding rookie, the first round pick out of Ohio State,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: he's a risk injury. He missed their last game. He
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: needs to get fully cleared, yet he has not. Brian
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: O'Neill has a knee injury. He got hurt before the buye.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: He's got to get through. But he's practicing that. That's good.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Blake Cashman, who's one of their inside backers, he's going
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: to play. Barn a setback, he's a hamstering. They feel
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: like he's gonna be able to play. Michael Jurgens, who
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: is backing up Ryan Kelly. Ryan Kelly's on iri HA
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: two concussions this year. Unfortunately, he's an I are Michael Jurgens,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: his backup didn't play the last game. Jurgens. Uh. Barring
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: something unforeseen, he's going to play.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: There's no relation to Cam there, right, he's a center
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: as well, right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Is Michael Jurgens. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: But the big one on defense is Andrew van a
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: v k avg excuse me, Andrew Van Ginkle, with a
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: neck injury. Started working this week. They got to see
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: him get through it. Yeah, that's where that so their
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: offensive that as you said, you're right, it's a good
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: thing that some of these guys are working, but they
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: still don't know yet. They got to get through practice
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But no relation between Michael Jurgens and Cam Jurgens
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: despite having the same last name and playing the same position.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: He didn't go to Nebraska, didn't no, no wake forest.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: But you're right, some these are not definites like Van
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yinkle and Donovan Jackson. But the fact that they were
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: out at the practice field on Wednesday and able to
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: do something gives them sort of the arrow pointing in
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: the right direction. Correct, And I think the Vikings are
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: a completely I don't want to say completely different, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: they're so much better of a team if Jackson, O'Neil
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: and Van Yinkle play as I mean, they're already better,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: but yeah, they're almost a completely that's a good offensive
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: line when it's healthy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Their big issue for them will get more into this
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: in the pregame shows. They're not very good at corner.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I know that Isaiah Rodgers has played well. He's made
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: a big lot of big splash plays. Yeah, he's a
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: feisty guy. The great for the Eagles in his role.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: It took a nice job. But they have a beatable secondary.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean the Eagles will beat them. But I'm just
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: telling you that that the word around the league is
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Greg actually co sell back this up. He watches more
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: tape than when we know. Greg does not disagree with that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: He he feels like that's the secondary you can get.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: But you gotta get him. You got to protect right
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: only that you gotta be able to run the ball.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: We'll get into that in the pregame show. Let me
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: ask this question before you get out of here, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: you talked about it, you know, we talked about to
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: start the show like kind of where they're at here
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: and your crossroads game. It's a great way to say it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And you know where I'm at. I just said, I'm
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: almost to the point where this is looking a little
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: bit like twenty three. Where are you at with this
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: football team right now? I mean they are foreign too,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: but what are you are? They? Are they systematic symptomatics?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: He's made the rest of the league. Well, no one's
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm caught.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm like a lot of people where I'm
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: caught in between.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: There's too much talent on this team.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: To be doing as poorly as they're doing, especially on
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: offense where everybody came back except for one player. However,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: there are some unavoidable issues with the offensive line, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: it's overall health and strength that complicate the talent that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: they have, because, as we know, everything starts for the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Eagles with their offensive line and run game. And it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: not like we have a small sample. Now we have
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a third of the season in which they just have
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: not been able to forget run the ball explosively. They
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: haven't been able to run the ball effectively. And you know,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: if you look at their rankings on first down, at
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: them yards per game on first down, they're twenty eighth
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: yards per play, twenty ninth EPA per play on first down,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: twenty second EPA per rush, twentieth. Past percentage on first
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: down is forty five percent. Last year was thirty seven.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So they for a thoser saying they run the ball
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: on first down too much, not anymore. It felt like
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: their way in the first two weeks, but they have
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: come out throwing because of their run game issues, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that hasn't worked for them either. So I see a
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: team that's stuck in a rut right now, trying to
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: find its identity. And we all expect that it'll come
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: because of the talent they have, But if that offensive
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: line doesn't get better, I think it's going to be
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: more of a struggle than we think.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't listen. I've asked you this, I've asked Andrew this.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have offensive line being a problem on
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: my egos, So.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't And that's that's the point when I went
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: to train and camp, what do we miss? Like? What look?
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: I saw him as eleven or twelve one team, They
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: still are probably going to be in that frame. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: and how you get there to that record? I just
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: didn't see well, I just didn't see it. I just
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: did miss blocking. By the way, past pro has actually
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: been mostly pretty good. It'tually block atrocious.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: We didn't.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I would say we didn't miss that much because we
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: did say we did talk about tooth struggles a camp,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: whether it was at center snapping or even at left guard,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: you could see that that was an issue.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Jurgens was hard to tell. He was in and out.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: He had maintenance days.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're not gonna It's really hard at training
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: camp to watch plays and see if his fluidity and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: his angle blocking is there.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'm really baffled by my lot. I missing some blocks lately.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: That's not but he was dealing now that I think
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: about it, he was dealing with something a camp, something
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: in the.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Mid section area. We were grabbed.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: He obviously played through and he's not been on the
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: injury report, but those of us were there every day
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: saw every once in a while he looked like something
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't right.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But I don't even think that's the issue. I just
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: it's just not that play.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: The way is and maybe at some point we should
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: expect that Lane Johnson's gonna look more like just an
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: above average tackle instead of a Hall of fame one.
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  Speaker 3: Let me add one more thing to that. This this
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: idea that Barclay is not playing well is just not true.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he could do.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, is he as good just on his
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: own as he was lest you're probably not. Probably no.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: But he was one of the best running backs in
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: NFL history last season. Okay, yeah, it was incredible. The
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: line was incredible. Okay, one of the best performance we've
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: ever seen by an offensive line. But he's having to
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: make you. I think you actually pointed this out one
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: of the weeks and it was right on because it
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: just happened the first two runs that he had, which
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  Speaker 3: were explosive runs. Yep, we're not blocked the right way
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: that they should have been blocked, correct, and he this
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: is just hard to understand and hard to believe. But
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: you can't predict guys to regress like this. Now. When
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  Speaker 3: I say that, it doesn't mean that they're gonna start
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: feeling better physically. There's clearly something wrong physically with a
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: bunch of these guys or not there's something off with them, right,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: there's just it's just a and I know Jordan my
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Lot has talked about this on a show on w IP.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: There seems to be a blocked they're just a little
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: bit hair off, yep, And that's actually real. But why
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: but why is it happening every week?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: It's a great question, and you know that I would
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: really I only I want to see Saquan break one now,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: not only you know, to see like to verify what
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: we think is real about this team, but also I
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: want to get some next gen stats on what his
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: fastest mph that he can reach. But unfortunately, you're not
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: going to get one on a six yard run or
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: even in the eleven yard run where he has to
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: make the jump cut by himself, because you know that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: there might be some telltale information there. But The only
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: analytics that really tell a story right now on Saquon
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: are the fact that he has hit and contacted far
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: sooner after the handoff than he was last year.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was among he was the.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Leader in yards before contact last year, and now he's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: among the worst.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I mean he's getting hit almost immediately.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I mean when you're when you when you go from
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: three point nine was the number and now he's he
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: wasn't last Look, he was at one seven mm hmm.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: That just Folks don't understand how bit that's like. It's
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: like going from let's say a great receiver average eighteen
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: yards than the next season average ten and he's healthy,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with him. What the hell's going on here?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: They can't get the ball down field, you know whatever
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: for whatever, you could pick any receiver that struggled like that. Yep,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: it's because it's the quarterback or the offensive whatever the case.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe this it's the offensive line. It's just there's no
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: way we would have anyone would have known. There's no reporter,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: what the practice would know this?
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: This is crazy, right we really yeah, you don't know
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: until we always say that too with line play, you
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: don't know until some preseason games, but then really when
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: you get into it in September, when they're in uniform,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: when they're in pads all every single day, you know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: every game.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Obviously, and really going through it, well
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: That is the big question, and we will get more answers,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I'm sure on Sunday that's going to do it for
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: this episode of Inside the Birds, the Leading Podcast and
• 41:24
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• 41:27
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