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#664 - Prof on Mastering Social Media, Minneapolis Political Climate, Career Growth & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: All right, man, Bootleg cap Podcast Special guests in here
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  Speaker 1: hip hop legend. This guy has been a staple in
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: the underground for years and years and years. Minneapolis is
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  Speaker 1: in the building, Big Minnesota's in the building. He's somehow
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: redefined how old you got to be to have peak
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: hip hop career levels. Prof is in here. First of all,
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: I want to congratulate you because I've been following you
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  Speaker 1: for some years. You are obviously a darling of what
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: we'd like to call the underground kind of boombap subject
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  Speaker 1: culture of you know, certain aspects of hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: Dy.
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  Speaker 1: You have been a touring artist forever, and you have
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  Speaker 1: figured it out a way too.
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  Speaker 3: You have.
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  Speaker 1: Decoded how you can be an artist from your era
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  Speaker 1: and your I guess background of hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: How old are you?
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Thirty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: So, like you know, I grew up listening to fucking
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  Speaker 1: Brother Ali and Rhyme Sayers and all this shit. But
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like those guys, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys in that world that haven't figured out how to
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  Speaker 1: connect with the current landscape of consumption, and I feel
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: like you have mastered all of this hit.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting it wrapped up, starting the old engine, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: riving it up.
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  Speaker 1: And you're bigger than ever. Man, congrats? Has it feel
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  Speaker 1: like obviously you know it's been a you've you've I
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  Speaker 1: mean you just did I saw you did Red Rocks
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  Speaker 1: last year?
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  Speaker 2: Like, where's that?
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: This year?
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  Speaker 2: That was last year? Was it this year? Damn? Last April? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like shit's going well? Man, how you feel?
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: It's wild? Man? On the way over here, I was
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: talking to Mike over there, and I'm like, we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out someone who's had a slower come up
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  Speaker 2: than me, like to get from zero to the peak, right,
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: I would say this is the peak of my career
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  Speaker 2: so far. Yeah, and it's man, it's been a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, like, you know, I've been wrapping since I
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  Speaker 2: was like sixteen, you know, so that's a long fucking time.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, a lot of time. Like I only really
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  Speaker 2: became like a professional rapper and lived off this shit,
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  Speaker 2: you know, six or seven years ago? Really yeah, probably,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there was some slim years. There was about
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: ten years in a row, or maybe seven to ten
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  Speaker 2: years while I was making twenty K, twenty five K,
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  Speaker 2: thirty K, twenty k, fifteen k, whatever. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: was just supplementing with like drug income.
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  Speaker 1: And I was so like when you were like like
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  Speaker 1: the King Gambo era you Gombo, Yeah, you were just
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  Speaker 1: kind of getting getting by.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean look at I mean, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the independent rap game is like it's like if
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: you're if you you have your cycle, and when the
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  Speaker 1: cycle's up, it's like, Okay, the bills don't stop.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: When do you feel like you kind of hit your
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  Speaker 1: stride in like the new media space and like you've
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  Speaker 1: noticed the momentum start to swing in a new way
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was they probably twenty twenty felt good,
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: took a leap, and then I would say maybe twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty to twenty three, well with my last record, Horse,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that that felt good. That charted on the Billboard
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  Speaker 2: charts and we started touring selling out like bigger venues
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  Speaker 2: and theaters and stuff, and that felt that felt good.
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  Speaker 2: So you know a couple of different leaps in the
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  Speaker 2: last Yeah, Powderhorn, Sweets and Horse, both of those were
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  Speaker 2: like a level up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you were like dang, like they're like
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  Speaker 1: like I'm getting all these new fans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was That's weird. It's happening really
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  Speaker 2: fast right now on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, dr TikTok fire. Yeah, you figured out like
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  Speaker 1: these short term reels that are like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's stupid, though, I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: You title them like washed up, oh fire teacher freestyle
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  Speaker 1: like because.
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  Speaker 2: I started not giving a fuck because I so it's
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  Speaker 2: funny because I'm like, man, fuck this shit, it's all clickbait.
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  Speaker 2: So I started saying like just lying like look at this, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and I would just call myself. I'd be like hate
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  Speaker 2: on myself, like look on this ugly you know what
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, so and so, and just make a lie
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  Speaker 2: put it up there and then wrap my ass off
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  Speaker 2: and then you know, you hold someone for three seconds
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  Speaker 2: and they're going all right with it. I'm like, so
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: that was hilarious because I was about to quit that shit.
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  Speaker 2: So then I started saying dumb shit and I think
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  Speaker 2: people understand that, yeah, and it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like and then if you grab somebody
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  Speaker 1: and they're like wait what and then you perform like
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  Speaker 1: you the shit's dope. I never wanted to say.
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  Speaker 2: I never wanted to do the clickbait shit. So when
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  Speaker 2: for so those titles and stuff that I'm doing now
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  Speaker 2: is kind of like making fun of.
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  Speaker 1: The clickbait shit. Yeah, like it's so obviously clickbait.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously fake. You know, can't yeah, I don't. I can't
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  Speaker 2: come up with any examples, but it's definitely stupid.
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  Speaker 1: But people people probably are like, yo, man, did you
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  Speaker 1: really do this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Some people are stupid as hell. Man, the Internet's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What is the craziest? Like a new fan, you feel
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  Speaker 1: like you've met somebody who like, You're like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: you fuck would be like maybe an old lady, maybe
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  Speaker 1: like a fuck I don't know, like, oh, just.
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  Speaker 2: Jelly roll too. I walked in the room and he's
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  Speaker 2: like oh, and I'm like, I'm hello, my name is Prophet.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, no, you're a later I'm like, just that
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  Speaker 2: the whole comedy community, like when we were at you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Netflix is a joke. This all weekend. I'm looking
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: at Wanka over and over again, like what the fuck
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  Speaker 2: is going on? Everyone was like, well, I was in
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  Speaker 2: the back of the comedy store, like I felt like
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  Speaker 2: the pretty girl at prom or like the new girl,
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  Speaker 2: and that everyone was like everyone knewho I was in
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  Speaker 2: a comedy space.
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  Speaker 1: All the comedians, which is it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They were like and I'm like, I've just been
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: you know, putting out music and doing dumb reels and
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  Speaker 2: they think it's you know they I mean obviously you know,
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  Speaker 2: do music, so that might have been something else, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's weird. Man.
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  Speaker 1: You and Jelly Row synonymously kind of had the same
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: come up in the underground, but in different corners of
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: the underground.
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  Speaker 2: I'm less familiar with his ship. It was I think
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: it wasn't he signed it like a strange no, no.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: Well he did a distro deal, but like back in
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: the day he was like Roland like like he was
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: in the Yellow Wolf Ritz, I know, yellow corner of
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  Speaker 1: the of the White Trash underground rap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I'm saying. Yeah, this ship was
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  Speaker 2: like I would say, like if yeah rapper me and
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: Yellow Wolf, I feel like we're kind of similar, but
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: I was like more along. I never really liked like
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: he was like rap rock. I was like rap blues
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: or like, uh, you know, jazz or something.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the Minnesota Alabama difference, you know, right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what was there a comedian that like like knew who
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: you were? Where you were like, I'm a fan, Like
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy. I fuck with you too. Sure
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  Speaker 1: there's more than one ship.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who. That's a long list. I mean
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  Speaker 2: Tony Hnscliff is like super rooting for me, which is
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: crazy to be like, you know, come to come to
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  Speaker 2: my show and kill Tony Man. Yeah, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: get on stage, come on, you'll go. I'll put you
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  Speaker 2: on after jelly Roll or between a yeah Teddy Swims
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: or whatever. And I'm like I was just like, I'm
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: just gonna soak this in, like, you know, because it
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  Speaker 2: was all unfamiliar.
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  Speaker 1: You got to just go to Austin and be a
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  Speaker 1: guess judge.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I told him i'd do that. Afterwards, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I fuck with that shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's dope man. For people who don't know you are
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Yeah, Minneapolis has this scene that
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  Speaker 1: is like super underrated in the hip hop community. A
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know like Lizzo's roots in Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 1: With her career, I don't think she's from Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 2: Originally, she spent time there with everybody. Yeah, Minneapolis was
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  Speaker 2: really crazy until about twenty twenty when they canceled everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: in the city. But from like twenty ten to twenty twenty,
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: it was one of the best hip hop rap cities,
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  Speaker 2: I would say in the entire world as far as
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: like people getting paychecks off of shit.
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: Dude, such a dope live concert city.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: There must have been like thirty to forty rappers that
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  Speaker 2: were doing it professionally out of that in the city
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  Speaker 2: in that one city. Yeah, Like and I'm like, man,
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: like you could you have that in Atlanta? You know,
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: but they're all blown up in worlds, you know, famous
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  Speaker 2: and shit. But that was like Minneapolis. People were paying
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: like their light bills and shit. You know. Now it's
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: not like that. It's like dead compared to that.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: What was your like correlation with like the whole rhyme Sayers?
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  Speaker 1: Was that stuff that like inspired you watching like atmosphere
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: and like idea inabilities and all those guys kind of.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: The idea was crazy? You know. I was battling, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was on the street corners, like getting drunk and
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: doing that whole thing, because that was like Minneapolis. Shit,
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: if you're on the South Side, like we were doing
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: that before eight Mile came out, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So we were really out there battling and shit, and
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: then Idea went crazy and won that that big ass
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: world famous battle and everything, and so yeah, I was
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: doing that a bunch, and yeah, I was just on
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: the street. I was on the streets making a name
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: for myself doing that kind of shit. But I was,
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: I was. I was on my own ship. Like I
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: was never really backpack rap, you know, never. I never
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: felt like I fit in with that because I was
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: listening to fucking Outcast, you know what I mean, and
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: Goodie Mob and shit, and I was, I was. I was.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: I had ties with Atlanta through like a group called
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: the beat Chefs who was making beats for me, but
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: like you know, killing Mike and all that shit, and
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: you know, I just felt I didn't really like that
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: like hip hop backpack shit because it a lot of
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: times it was like pretentious, you know, and I didn't.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an aspect of that ship that was
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: very pretentious, especially like I kind of feel like, especially
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: out of Minneapolis a little especially.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Sure, and you know, I have moments you know, you
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: don't know hip hop, you ain't shit, like some white
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: kid with telling me that I don't know hip hop
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: and shit, I'm like, man, whatever, man, I'm just so
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: I was doing my own ship, being like more goofy
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: and getting drunk and more like violent weird, you know,
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: like more like mainstream. You know, I like I was
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: fucking with Ludacris and shit, like I love that shit,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't into like I.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Mean you had like walk a Floka on one of
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: your albums. Yeah right, yeah that was that was the ship,
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: which like if in twenty eleven or twelve, like a
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: hip hop head would.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: Be like, yo, fan, hell no what yeah, hell no,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: that's that's what that was. Kind of like my shit, Like, man,
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Would you say growing up? Was there like an album
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: or two or three that like kind of like just
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: made you fall in love?
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Goodie Mobs, Soul Food. Oh he was like that was
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: the number one. Shit, that's the first rap album that
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: I would like memorized everything too, and like I think
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: a common like Water for Chocolate.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I think or like Water for Chocolate is the one
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: that had the light on it, and.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, what's what's that? What's the one after that?
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  Speaker 1: The one after that would have been the one.
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  Speaker 2: No, there's are you.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about resurrection B there's the one that had the
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  Speaker 1: Lauren hillsong where he's rapping about fucking.
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: The This is crazy because I could recite every word
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: to this fucking album and I can't. I can't come
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: up with the title right now. But that was good
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: goodie mob. Soul Food was crazy. You know, that's a
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: type that that's the type of ship that was. Like
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: se Low was you know, melodic too, and I was
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: kind of you know, I was in this some you know,
• 12:15
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• 12:17
  Speaker 2: was my.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Ship shot to see Low stealing and she had a great,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: great hook on the Kanye album. I didn't expect to hear.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he came out at so far
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: with Kanye and I was standing like where I happened
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: to be at. I was just like children and I
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: was just looking around and all I'm like, yo, you
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: know who that is? You know who that is? And
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I think that's I'm like, it's Selo,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: you little mother fucker. Yeah, dust steal a little ship.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: And he just came out with a new Narls Barkley too.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, she has the Selo green Man. That's dope.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: So for you, man, like you got a new record
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: with T Pain that's been dope. The video is incredible.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: That was fun.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Are you because you have this like amazing for visuals
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: and like just aesthetics in general, and I feel like
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: you've always had that. Are you very much like hands
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: on with all of the creative stuff completely?
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Man, every single point of the way. It gets kind
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: of like tedious and shit. But if something comes out
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: in an other way and it's we presented and it's
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: just a miss and I do you know, which happens
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: all the time even with my shit, I'm like, that
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: didn't work out the way I wanted it too, But
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: like you know, when people are like, no, I got
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: an idea and then it I just can't have it
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: so that way. So I just I got to have
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: my hands and everything.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is there ever an idea that it's
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: so outlandish that you have to pull it back a
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  Speaker 1: little or be like, Okay, maybe I'm.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Doing that more and more and more. No, because you know,
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm old now, and everybody just,
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: you know, they're like they, Okay, we're gonna film a
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: music video again. Okay, like go fucking crazy, do a
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: backflip off this tree and fucking you know, they eat
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: this pussy out from behind. And I'm just like, you know, nah,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like evolving a little bit.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like too, there's like this narrative
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: that I've seen smart talk about that like music videos,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: ROI isn't worth it anymore, It's not I do. Yeah,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: and you'd be better off spending Let's say you were
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: gonna spend five grand on a music video. Spending five
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: grand and like doing thirty reels.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Or something, Yeah, that would much rather like if if
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: if I had advice for some people coming up, I'd
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: be like, well, first, don't spend shit, just just think
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: of anything creative and just film it with your phone.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, but yeah, music video budgets. I think I
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: filmed one of my last music videos and I'm gonna
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: do it a very long time. But that for a
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: Good Time Boy. That is a single out right now
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: and it's the title track for my record, so it
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: just ties everything up and that the concept on it
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: was just too important for the whole record and the
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: ending of it. You know, I don't really want to
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: give it away, but it meant too much for me. So,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: you know, we just and you know, Mike is, He'll
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: let me do my thing. He's like, we ain't gonna
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: make any money off of this, but let's do it
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: because it's gonna be important. It's important to the art
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: and the whole album, you know. So yeah, we just did.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: We did earlier this week.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: So it was a Good Time Boy. A concept album, no,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: not really, but it is.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit more of like you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: social commentary on like what's going It's it's close to
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: a concept album. It's kind of like, you know, being
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: a trying to remain an optimist in the face of
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: fucking global annihilation and.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Dis yeah, in the face of the world metal, what's
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: going on right now, totalerism and fucking evil shit.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So then that's what it's about, and that the
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: single it's about that. So yeah, I would say, I
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: don't know, what would you say. I wouldn't say it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: a concept album. Really, I feel like, yeah, it's just
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: a scynct world. It's a succinct world. Well.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like when you approach an album, if you're
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: fucking at least if you like give a fuck, every
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: album should have its own world and vibe.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, take a life of its own.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like did the ship you wear, the way the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: colors are, you know, all that shit?
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It also kind of what do you feel like, because
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: like we're talking about what was going on in the
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: world right now, and it feels like, no matter what happens,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis becomes kind of the center point of social commentary.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, Ice really really fucking I really want
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to say fuck you to Nick Shirley because that little
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: fucking autistic fucks video really resulted in this Ice presence.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was kind of a director result
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: at least.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they I don't think Trump fucks with our
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: governor the walls bruh. Yeah, yeah, so and it's just
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Minneapolis doesn't. We don't have a tolerance
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: for that shit ever. Since twenty twenty George Floyd. It's
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: like hairpin trigger shit, And that was just as bad
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: as twenty twenty. I mean that the city didn't burn
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: like it did, but man, like it was a whole
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: new nightmare. It was really an occupation. Like I live
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: on the South Side still and you still heard these
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: whistles and like all these new ways that the neighbors
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: will get together and fight these people. It was bananas.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Terrorizing and like invading just neighborhoods, oh high schools to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: fighting children and shit like that.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: So like no matter, let's say in Minneapolis, eventually no
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: one was fucking with ice. Like it might have started
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: where people are like, yeah, I would like some good
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: reform immigration or whatever. But like but then you got them,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: you know someone it says, maybe like keep the borders closed.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: You got someone sitting on a bus stop with someone
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that they've taken a bus with for the past five years,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and then they see them just fucking get violently just disappeared. Yeah,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: right in front of them. They go, whoa, whoa, don't
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: do that. And it changed, like no one in Minneapolis
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: was fucking with that shit, and there was people, you know,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: we were hiding little. So there's a what we like
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to do a lot in Minneapolis is really popular is
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: immersive Spanish immersion daycares and preschools and shit, So I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: mean super popular. I would say there's more Spanish immersion
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: daycares than normal daycares. So there's like little abuelitas like
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that people care about and that they cared for people's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: our sons and daughters and literally people like many people
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I know sneaking I will eat usk in fucking little
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: hatchbacks and trunks and have them like sit down on
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: the back seat and lay down and shit. Like we
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: were doing shit like that that felt like, I'm not
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: gonna say it felt like fucking Nazi Germany or whatever.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But we were like, what the fuck is going.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Where in America in twenty twenty six. The fact that
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that's even like a reality for any part of the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: country is fucking wild.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And they shot Renee good, shot fucking Alex pretty yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, both of those being on video, I mean obviously.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And then for them to be like, yeah they were,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: you know, But that's the thing is like just just.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Like obviously them losing their life is heartbreaking, but at
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: least it was filmed. Man, at least there were people
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: there to get it on camera, because I really feel
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like it really kind of forced. Like even I was
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: watching one of the Senate hearings with their interview and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the Christy Nome bitch and like the Reportublican people were like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: it's obvious, what's the old dude that sounds like uh
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: he sounds like the dude from fucking uh he sounds
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like fog fog fog Horn Leghorn Kennedy. Senator Kennedy was
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: asking Christy Doom about about He was like, is this
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you said that these were domestic terrorists?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Is? Yeah?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: And she her final words were, that's all good man.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at you. You know what I'm saying.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Bro, Bro, it's just crazy man. I just you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis has that energy, man, and like obviously the George
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Floyd shit is is a whole other thing. Would he
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like like as somebody from Minneapolis. I wonder you met
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Tony Hinchcliffe. Did you see his joke at the roast?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And I'm I'm trying to navigate my relationship with them,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because I like to say
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: crazy shit. You know, I was a battle rapper. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: came up like that was real shit battle rapping as well.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Like but he says that, and I'm really not offended
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: by a lot, But like I understand, like I wouldn't
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: be saying that ship that he's saying, you know what
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I'm saying that Like I was out and this I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: mean I was out in the street marching for George Floyd,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I don't know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think there's like two sides of the coin, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I kind of understand both perspectives. I think like roast
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: comedy has always been the most like drilled out.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, that's what your goal there for to go,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: oh hell no.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And like Tony Hinchcliff's brand of comedy is literally like
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: it's just that, like just psychopath like no one's safe, right,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like, but I also get it where you're
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: like it's like, yeah, that's a certain point in time,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: where's the where's the line? You know what I mean?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I'm not going down that line, no for sure.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: But I think, like I think, I think it seemed
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like everyone on stage at least took it kind of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: except for him. Chelsea Hammler had a little thing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It was I kind of liked it. It was I
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: didn't watch the whole thing, man, I was tired of hell.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: But it was cool. Man.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if you don't like it, like there's always
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: like don't watch it type shit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So you have this touring Canada, supposed to be with
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the Yell Little for Mexican O t h. It ends
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: up being prof. Prof and prof and Wonkah were there.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: That's my ace, man, he helped me out. Like crazy.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I would love to see that tour in the United States,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I like to point out because I think it would
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: go crazy. Yeah, at least two out of three all
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: on the road together, it would go crazy. I don't know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: But what what was it like?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Because you know, you got all these fans that show
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: up in Canada, and now I think Canadian fans probably
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: moved a little bit more grace because they do understand
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: how ridiculous their border is. Yeah, right, And I feel
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like it happens a lot where like artists get blocked and.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: They're just nice like, oh it's okay, Like they all stayed. Yeah,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: so oh great show.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: But that has to be like for you, it's kind
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of like you're like, you know, like Jimmy Butler.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: On the Heat. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying yeah that one,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: that one show in Toronto. I was like, damn, we
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: got like five six hours just the two of us.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, are we gonna get paid?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, are you gonna pay us? I mean
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I probably performed for probably than two hours, but he
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: had an hour djaying hour and a half, so total probably.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I mean we turned that bitch out, dude, that was
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: one of the best.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, VIP for another hour, so I mean showed up.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: We were going. I mean we were going for five
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: to six hours straight and by the end of that
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: everyone was just like that. Man that when we walked
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: off stage, man, like, the titties were out, bras were everywhere. Motherfuckers.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: We had people crying, like it was like it was
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: a super memorable.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: On thousands of shows, I do miss I feel like
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: we we don't see as many titties anymore concerts.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're always a good sign. It's like, you know,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a canary and a coal mine, like so, so when
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the titt's are out, it's good. There's like because there's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: been fights and ship there's you know, when titties are out,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: there's no fights. No, for sure, everyone's cool, Like people
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: are comfy. It's always a good sign of a good show.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Tech nine does the But then, but then sometimes I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: think we've gotten to the point where even like fifteen
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: years ago to tech show, I'm not sure there's the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: tit's you want to see. But even more so, like
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six had a text show, it's.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Like maybe he's probably got the daughters of the Like,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I bet he's got the mother now the daughters, alas
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the moms are still coming. I would be worried to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: like request that and say everybody take out titties. It's like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not worried about the all ages shit.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: it's get weird.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Why the name good Time Boy for the new album?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Oh that's just that's just it just Uh. There was
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a song called bad Time Boy that I released. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: was about to put it on the album, but it
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: got time passed too much. But like there was gonna
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: be this good Time Boy bad Time Boy shit. But
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you know, good Time Boy is just being like I said,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: like trying to remain an optimist and like you see
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: the news like it's okay to shut that ship off
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and fucking kick it with the homies or you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: like I wish we should have give you a link
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to that record. Like the way the way the record
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: ends is uh. It's called Garden of Eden and it's
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a song I've been working on for like six years.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And I made many beats for it and they just
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: weren't They just weren't it, you know, that that idea
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: of being in heaven on earth right now it's like
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: what I've been trying to, like We're in the Garden
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of Eden. And it took a long time. Yeah, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I got it. Worked with a heavy composer, yeah, Adam Conrad.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: We had strings, we had a choir in there, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it was so good that I'm like, Okay, now I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: can really make it powerful and put all these things
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: in there. And the way it ends, you know, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: there's themes of like shame and guilt and then also
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about you know, cancel ate, canceling people, and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: then like how are we gonna heal? And you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it's hard to describe right now, but I couldn't be
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: more proud of that record a because there's fucking bangers
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: on that ship and it's super height in sections. But
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: then be the way I say what I've been wanting
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to say, you know, for a long time now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So so for you is your process? I'm sure each
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: song different, but like, if you have that idea, do
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you already start writing it before you have the music
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: all the way figured out?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's ideas and themes that I've figured out, Like
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: if I go through my phone right now, like I
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: have I write things down before I'm in the studio,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Like rarely am I like you could be. I mean
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: this one, this one's called mostly swaggy, So these are
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: lines that are just mostly swaggy, and I have like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: ten twelve thirty forty pages, and I have one that
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: mostly intellect you know, mostly serious. And then that's that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: even You get in.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: The studio and you at least you have your inspiration
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to pull from, and it makes I'm sure for a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: lot more efficient studio sessions.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not in I'm not in the studio,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'm in my recording yourself. I'm at the crib, I'm
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: engineering myself. So there's no there's no I'm only in
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: there when I'm feeling good. You know.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Do you ever just be like, you know what, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: think I want to book a studio? No, no, nope, no,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I just I've done that a lot.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I've done that, and you get to get with the boys,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: you get fucked up, and then I'm all smoking men
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: dolls and just kicking it. And then they're like, come
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: back in the studio. I'm like, I don't want to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: go back in there, like and then no one gives
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a fuck. Everyone's talking and shit and you party, and
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it's like, oh yeah, we gotta get it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Like, well, we could have just went to Applebee's and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: did the same ship.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Just could have gotten arcandat Applebee's instead of the studio.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, shot us in Narcans,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: saving lives in downtown La daily is the homeless thing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: crazy in Minneapolis. Y'all gotta figured out. No, we do
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: not have it figured out.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You haven't figured out. I was actually I I asked,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: read over here, I go, give me three steps out
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: of nowhere to like solve what are the first three
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: things you'd do to solve homelessness? And I think he said,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: get everybody together, what was what was it? Get them all,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: offer them something and bring him to my house, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: then we did. He didn't figure it out after that.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think it's a lot easier to figure
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that because like Austin figured it out a little bit
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: better than most places. Because I went to Austin. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: went with Freddie Gibbs to Joe Rogan and like we
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: were walking to be out six and bro I was like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I hadn't been Austin like five or six years, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck that whole bridge you've done?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: South by Southwest there's that bridge that separates like east
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and west six and it was like a city under
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the bridge, right, Yeah, it's not like that, nor And
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: then I went back like nine months later, and I guess,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: like a new mayor had gotten elected.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: They probably shipped everybody to New York or something.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Honestly, that wasn't that what the dude was doing?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't know.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I think I think you got to figure out a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: way to understand that there's a lot of people who
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: want to be homeless.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so complex.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It is a very complex issue. And once it gets
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: past a certain threshold of the amount of people, it
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: feels like a fad, like I don't.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, I don't I'd like to think that we
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: definitely have money for these things because we got money
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: for crazy wars for no reason.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: And shit, we have enough money to blow up children
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and Iran.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people stop caring because maybe it's useless. I don't know,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: you know, I just think for me, what I would
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: try to do is start before that shit and provide
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: a decent way to live for people. You know what
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think uh. I think Zorn Mandani's doing such
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a great job in New York. I hope these motherfuckers
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: are paying attention this full balance balance.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I saw that he's a balance A budget was thirteen billion.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Then he just did and then he did. He did
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a whole fucking Instagram just saying this is how we
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: did it, exactly how he did it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I know. I was like, I've never seen anything like
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that in my life.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how why did this guy have to be
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: born in Uganda? He can't be the president he's from Uganda.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: This is he's from Uganda.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: He was born in Uganda.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Damn what what's ethnicity is he?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think he's Indian, but I know he being born
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: in Uganda. Yeah, yeah, brus getting he's got it together.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I haven't been paying much attention, but then
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I just saw that Instagram when I was blown away.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Do you feel as a white rapper? Because I feel
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: like the last five or six years things have been
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a little weird because I feel like Joe Biden was
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: such a horrible president that like it kind of a
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: lot of people kind of politically just kind of felt
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: like we're in no man's land because we watched the left,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you know, fund and allow Baby Niello to go crazy
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: and is in Gaza, and then there was this election
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and the podcast Bruhs was kind of normalizing Trump and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, So like being a white rapper, I feel like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you know, do you and you're also from Minneapolis, so
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like and you're politically charged, dude, So for you, like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: do you feel like it's more like this is just
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: who you are? Like you want to make sure you are,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you know, speaking out against shit or and if so,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: is there like a pocket of your fan base that
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you noticed that maybe just discovered you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: That doesn't know I'm like, what the fuck do you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: think that might think.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Like, ah, fuck, I thought this was Tom McDonald.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, you know, I don't. I don't know, man,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: It's so it's so confusing. Bro. I'm at the age
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: right now where I'm like, damn fguring out. I don't
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: know shit, you know, I'm just trying to I used to,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: like ten years ago, I was online going back and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: forth with the motherfucker. Oh man, me too, Bro, I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: can't you know, I don't know. Honestly, I'm just trying
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to fucking get money so I can protect the people
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: closest to me right now.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know what else to do.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna grab a fucking AK forty
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: seven and charge the White House or something like. So,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's confusing. I'm just kind of putting
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: seeing which way the wind is blowing, and just trying
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: to like take care of my own really.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like the white Rapper thing at least
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is kind of like a like I feel like ten
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: years ago it was like one guy at a time
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: could be hot.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Like it was like all right, Macklamore tagging g easy,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: all right, tagging.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Jack Harlowe only one at a time.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm yellow If tagging MGK bro. I'm so old.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna be like the second white rapper.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Eminem, then it's me. Then I saw
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: like Yellowolf, like fuck this guy man, and then like yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: one at a time or whatever. But now I don't know,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And now there's like this like weird just it's anything.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: There's so much weird shit going on, like wrap anything
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: that goes kind of viral. Now they're on rolling loud,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: white kid like fifteen year old white kids jumping around.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know what the fuck?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, I went down the net spend rabbit
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: hole recently. There's a guy named net spend who's very popular.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: He's had one of the biggest sets of rolling out.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: He's a little white dude. He looks like a he
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: looks like a like Christina Aguilar's daughter or something.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: He looks like her daughter.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I was like no, So I was like, all right, well,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like I.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Saw, like, you know, a lot of the blocks saying
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: net spend had the best set of the day or whatever.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I was driving the
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: other day and I threw his shit on and I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: was just like fuck man like, and.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'm old. I don't want to.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be the old head Haydn like
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: because that happened to me. And I was like, man,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: fuck them, you know that's why I'm not But I'm like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: it's horrible. But I'm also saying I'm old. I don't
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: know what's going on anymore, but I'm looking for them
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: to uh perform or hit a no or do some
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: some something skilled or something that requires talent or maybe yeh,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: show me a lot of emotion and then show me
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: some dynamics.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Like I thought Sex was like a perfect guy who
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, he showed emotion.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I thought he was talented. Yes, yeah, yeah, this new
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: shit good example.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Have you heard it too?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Slimy? It sounds familiar, dude, But I think what they're
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: doing is just seeing anybody goes viral and then there
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the labels are stepping in and just.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: It's kind of finding him and then just it's reminding
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: me of like twenty sixteen seventeen all over again, where
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like anybody who like was going viral. Was kind of
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: like getting signed, even if you were like, I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: know what's happening now, man, dude, I, by the way,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: no shots are too slimey. I'd love to have you
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: on the podcast because you look like a villain from
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the Incrediblest movie. But I just found this dude recently.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: His music.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know what's you gotta hear the vocals.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like music.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You know what that could be? Could that be like
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: scream death metal? Just like it sounds like my kids
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: want to go crazy.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: It sounds like too solid state, hard drives malfunctioning. Will fuck?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: That sounded like too bad. That sounds like the radios
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: were going two separate songs. I don't know what's going on.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I just feel like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you know what, I've gotten to the point where I
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that I am old, and I like
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: my hip hop to sound like music, and my music
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to sound like there was a.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Lot of energy in there though, and.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot of energy. And he looks he's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a cool looking kid. I'm sure he's a fun hang.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You know, he's got a he he's probably a fun hang.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on the podcast. I just
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: want to know what his his engineer's vocal. It looks
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: like I want to know what what do we got
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: turned on on the on the pro tools on that boot.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that was.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know what is your at home setup for
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: when you record? What is your mic set up?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Norman eighty seven? Okay, And there's some mother shit that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: some other people like help me out with. I like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I got a compressor, Yeah, I got compressors.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I got to talk. You get the Bluetooth tip probably
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: yeah it's a giant blue but you know.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I'll just you know, Mahmie Dylan and then like uh
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: stop house affiliate. And then like Greeves is a kind
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: of a nerd who helped me once I they tell
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: me like what to put in there, I'm like, make
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the setting exactly what I want, and like I don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: want to have to touch this shit again because I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: don't like to nerd out on that ship. I do
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: not like to learn things or nothing, like I know
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the least of them all possible to make the sound,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to get the sounds I want record things? How I
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: want it. Yeah, you know, and I don't want to
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: know anything else.
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• 36:12
  Speaker 1: like Rhyme saiers ever try to sign you or anything?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I was signed?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: You were signed? A rhyme says, Okay, I feel like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: anybody at a Minnesota has had a stint at Rhyme savers.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I sold any Moss. Yeah yeah, I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: sold out a big outdoor venue at like four thousand
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: CAP a long time ago. And then that's when they
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: called me. They were like, hey, yeah, can't get some
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: of that money you want to share?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I had a conversation with ev Evidence Uh
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: just released his last album, Rhyme Sais, and he was like, look, man,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: like the independence is cool, but he's like, Rhyme Sais
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: they got like they got they got it figured out,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, He's like I'm not saying they
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: got their formula. They got their formula and they're like, uh,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you know, independent powerhouses.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I wish they never got rid of that festival because
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that festival was kind of like the last because Rock
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the Bells and pay Dues went away.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: They I think they lost their ass and then they.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well because I think they had Jacob.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: They can't they can't compete with like the fucking pockets
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of you know, Coachella.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also like a weird part of the country
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to ask everyone to come to.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a short flight. I don't know, it's in
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the middle of it. A lot of things.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about your Timberwolves? Man, are you
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: guys gonna get over there?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And it's hurt bro?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Like he is, he's playing like he's hurt.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't made ones fast twitch move since he
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: hurt his knee. Like he's not the same.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's hard to get over Wenby too.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: The Wemby dude is a fucking problem dog.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't I don't know the fucking We've had
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a time of like let's go, let's go Western Coffs
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: finals back to back years like let's do this, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: then no one's fucking with the Thunder all their draft
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: picks I hate. Then the Spurs, I'm like, God damn,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: it'sbout to be them.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I'm a Sun's fan, and I'm like, everything's just pointless
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: for the next like seven years, Like I don't even
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: know what to do. Like the Thunder, they're never gonna
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: have to worry about the second Apron because every time
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: their players get it, they're just gonna trade them and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna keep They drafted a J. Mitchell, Who
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the fuck is a J.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Mitchell?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Then this fucking douchebag and Philly trades them McCain for
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: fucking peanuts. Bro, he's just gonna trade lout Dort. They're like, oh, yeah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: we can't.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Pay you forever.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And then the fucking the Spurs. Dylan Harper looks.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Like, oh man, sh yeah, he's so good. Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I think you guys just gotta figure out, like eventually,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you just gotta like get off of like Rudy go
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Bear's contract. I love Rudy, by the way.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: His plus minus is still crazy during the regular During
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the regular season, Rudy's worth a lot of wins, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But but he's been getting cooked. We
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: have this, uh Joanne. He he looks like he could
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: like and as long as if is super healthy in
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the in the postseason, he can go off.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just not hav I think Julius I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: was a little inconsistent.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: He's a great player, and I like him on our team,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: but I don't think he's a number two. I don't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: think he'd be a number two option on like a
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: championship caliber team. He could be if he was our
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: third best player, fourth best player.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Problem is you trade a cat for him, who's your
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: second best player?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Cat had to go anyways because of the money. Yeah, So,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I mean I think we got a really good haul
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: for Kat. It was him. Who else? We get Dante?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I think there was a pick too.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: So I mean I didn't like the trade, but like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: after a while, you're like, are you optimistic? I'm rooting
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings this year, and because listen, I'm a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Cardinals fan. So you guys got you guys got my
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: little lf over there.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw he threw three picks in practice the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I'm not optimistic, not optimistic.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Anything's better than fucking J. J. McCarthy.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: We'll see he was he was injured two. I don't
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: think he you know, we'll see. I'll give I'll give
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: JJ another year. It's a true it's a competition. What
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: if he wins out over your guy?
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: He won't. Kyler's a beast.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Kyler beast.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: He's a beast beast. And I think you guys got
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to I think you guys have my you guys have
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: my favorite coach. Once I watched that Quarterbacks on Netflix
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and I saw the way him and Kirk Cousins were
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: working together, I was like, I fuck with this guy.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we like him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's solid. Talk to me man, like, uh, you
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: work with Tea Pain on this this record? Yeah, you
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: pitch the idea to Pain.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: H huh he's in hum Oh yeah, no doubt. He
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: didn't have no yeah, yeah, we needed something to do
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: my My original idea for the music video was just
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: way too expensive and extravagant. I wanted to like, have
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: it just come. Oh, let me pray for him now
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: over a ice stout lake with a whole cut in
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and I kicked some dude into the.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Whole very Minnesota.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: It was just you know, it was a lot. It
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: was way too expensive. So my idea is, like, what
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: would be interesting can we do just on one fucking
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: white psych?
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Or well I think it was on green screen. Yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: it's like damn all right, So I think that was
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: the most we could do. I don't really like, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: uh music video shot on green screens and ship, But
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: for that concept, I think it was the best concept
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: we could do that to have him in and out,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: have me in and out and just had some fun.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah you get whoever did that video, kudos to them.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me and uh and Thomas Axment. We just
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: we bet we've had twenty five videos straight in a row.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Are you having edit or are.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: You just giving him the ideas? Like no, no change
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: his changes? Like are you capable of like using final
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: cutting ship if I've.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Edited a last video? I mean, I'm familiar with that ship,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: but he had he did, he does his.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Cap cut ship is changed in the game dog, Yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: fucking cook a whole goddamn joint up on your phone?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: You shoot music video right now?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Who are your goats?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: What is your like you know, top four or five
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: mcs that you I mean, And I'm not talking about.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Who you think ever publicly said your favorite?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: How about your your favorites. I don't want to say
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: who you think is because I think Jay Z now
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: damn man, like your personal favorites like I got Pusher
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Tea in Freddy Gabs extremely high on my list.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Young Thug is up there for me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: You know, I think as far as like goats like
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: jay Z, Eminem, I mean, Eminem changed my ship when
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: he came out with those No one was talking like that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: He just lit up my mind all the these these syllables,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: these drastic you know, yeah subject matter. So yeah, I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's I don't really have like a lot
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: of new cats coming up. I like Anderson Park Like,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I like I like that he's super musicality like that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and so like I like to put that into my work.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you listening to? Like outside of hip hop?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Is there?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: What's your go to?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Like almost to all types of shit? I got. I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: got back into Queens of the Stone Age. I'm working
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: out to them right now. So I but other than that,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I really don't fuck with like rock too much like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: contemporary rock. I'm listening to a lot of jazz, a
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: lot of old jazz like Coltrane, you know, Miles Davis
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: and shit like that. Like I listen to all types
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: of shit.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I just been on like seventies rock lately. I know
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: what it is like lately because I've been smoking a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: lot of Fiah, a lot of shrooms, Vibe seventy Rooms
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and Floyd one of these nights. You know what I'm saying,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Like Eagles, You know what I mean?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is that what you listen to? Mostly? Like you
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: listening to like these young rappers? Would you go to
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: his Spotify and then like give it a play.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I'll show you what I'm listening to. What was I
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: listening to yesterday? J Cole's album I'm Still Bump right now?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: The last song I was listening to his DMX looked
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: through My Eyes. One of my favorite DMX songs ever, Coyote.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard of Coyote. They got
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: a new album, Statics Selected. They're from La two Brothers.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: They're incredible. Samar Sin is dope. Have you heard her?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Hmmm?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Samaras Sinuh, Kanye's Bully and I like the new Isaiah
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Shot album.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I haven't heard that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I got to listen to his ship really good. Uh yeah,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: see yeah, yeah. I mean I'm still listening to mostly rap.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: But if I'm like just cruising, you know who?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I like sung little? Have you heard? He's uh? I
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: would consider like rock or like blues jazz, whatever. I
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: don't know, I like some little Yeah. Do you.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Like growing up in Minneapolis in the music scene. Do
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: you ever have any sort of run ins with Prince
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: at all?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: No, you don't run in. You don't run into Prince.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Like there's stories where like if he makes a decision,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: he'll he'll pull up and he'll like he kind of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: hit his assistance would go and be like, hey, you
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: three need to the dorm and you need to lay
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: down on your stomachs and and Prince will walk out.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: You needed to hold an umbrella over and he will
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: walk on top of you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Were you ever at one of these events where he
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: decided to bestow his presence, No, no, no, I felt
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: like he was kind of doing like the Chappelle thing
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: there for a little out there where you'd be like, yo, Prince,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: he did like some random show.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would hear, yeah, murmurings of that kind of ship.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: But then do you do you like just have to
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: be a Prince fan growing up in Minneapolis? Like are
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: you just like yo man princes?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think I mean publicly, you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: can't really like diss him and shit like that. But
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: like no one's going, hey, no one's force feeding you Prince.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Love Prince, but you were a prince Michael Jackson guy
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: both both. Did you see Michael the movie?
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Uh uh, I don't think Michael or Prince was very
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: well rounded, thoughtful, nice people.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Well I tend to believe that Michael Jackson fuck kids,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm like absolutely, Hey, at the very least, he
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: spent the night with unaccompanied children in his bedroom.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: So that's a wrap, that's all we need.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: And he built a theme park in his backyard and.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: They found a grip of child porn when they raided
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: his house.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: And I he was tongue punching little dudes.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Buttholes, oh yeah, they all had the same thing about like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: yeah we saw that documentary. We don't really know.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: So they filmed the uh this little this empty building
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: directly next door, same tenant or same or they turned
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: they painted this whole building next door yellow and turned
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it into like a nineteen seventies or eighties Tower Records
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: for like three days, so we couldn't like, for.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: The movie it was shot right there next door.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, Tower Records is just this empty autopart store
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: next door. Oh damn, remember they like shut they shut
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: down the front of the fucking studio. We couldn't like
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: have anybody come in and out.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: It was like, damn, that's cool. Do you see that?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: You see the movie?
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: No?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: No, I honestly I'm I'm like, my wife hates the
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: fact that I am. She went and saw it with
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: my son, and my son's like, oh uh dad uh,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: I want to get this Michael Jackson shirt. And my
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: wife is so mad at me because I was like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson would have loved you, son, No, because my
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: son's twelve, And I was like, you know, he fucked
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the kids, and my son he's on TikTok, you know.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: So I my wife was like, why would you ruin
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: that for him? I'm like, well he was at he
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: was a fucking creep. Yeah, and were whitewashing Joe Jackson
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: like he wasn't a fucking abusive dad who beat his
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: kid in the being a child molester man.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Everyone had everyone had stories like that, like everyone was
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: fucked up.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Only now are people trying to.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Jackson is currently walking around with the head Man.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I've seen some good memes on him lately.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: What are we doing all right? Who else is on
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the album?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Well Ship forty? Uh? That Mexican t two Chains the.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Big Dog Records on the album with You and two
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Chains in ot.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Ot Pete and Bos them old folks from Wow, the
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: dudes from Ireland England? Yeah?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Are they from England?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: The two like old Bruhs?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? How do you get them?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know? Management? Maybe mutual connection.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, they're fucking awesome.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They fucking killed that ship too, dude.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think people write for them?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know. I don't want to. I
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to. I don't know, I don't I don't wanna.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna assume. I like to obviously.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I just like their whole thing.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Just assume that they're writing.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's just so good And I'm like, Yo, who was there?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: I want to meet the bru behind the Bruhs.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Don't nobody that age know those slang.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, I'm like, I just want to shake the guy's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: hand who's behind the guys and be like yo, I
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if those guys were like best friends already
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and they're like, look, I got an idea, Like where
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: about that? I'm let me show you how to get
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you guys want some fucking pussy. I know you guys
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: are eighty We got viagroin now let me. I'm gonna
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: get y'all lit. And the guy probably owns like all
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: of it, Like whoever is the guy behind? The guy
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: is running it out even if.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: They don't, even if they don't bro like, they are
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: on pace, they got the they're hitting trips.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: It sounds so good.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sound like they've been doing it for eighty years.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Have you met him?
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: No, but they are open to a music video.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: That's what you gotta get on. You gotta get on
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the plane for that's that's where you have to do
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the video.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: I know. But if I'm over there, I got a
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: tour because this dude's been in my Instagram every single
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: day for the almost nine hundred days, every single post,
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: posting every day till you come to the UK day
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: eight hundred and seventy eight right now and he and
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: he is every day.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: He's said in a comment, m h all right, you
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: got the old Bruhs on there, forty.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Chain ot ot oh yeah, John Ray, Local Cat just
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: a real quick appearance. T Pain. Yeah. Man, we got
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: some great features on it. What a great album, Yes, yeah, yeah,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: it's it's a really good album. That's the best album
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I've ever made. I think it's one of the best.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I think it would be one of the best records
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: of the year. Comes out June twenty sixth, and if
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you buy a CD the lowest point of entry, I
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: will sign it and you can get a piece of history. Bro.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: We have a chance to have the number one rap
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: record in the entire world. It's selling like that. Wow, yeah,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: that's awesome.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And like basically you know what I love. I love
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: like you know when I when you see the homies
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: drop and like you'll I'm I like any anytime any
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: of my friends drop, I was like, like, all right,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: where they end up on SoundScan, you know, but I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: just love to see the units actually sold, be like crazy. Yeah,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: jelly Roll was number two the week he dropped, or
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you know, he beat Rod Wave, but he was battling
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: with rod Wave because rod Wave streams like fucking crazy.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: But Jelly Row's sow like one hundred and five thousand
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: physical units.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Oh that shit don't happen.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, and I'm like, yo, like that's crazy,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Like you know, like I.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Think the only reason I'm doing so many units is
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: they can have a free signature of like a moment
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: in time that history, so all my fans will get
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: that shit.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: So how long have you been like like has the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: pre orders been available? Because that's the other thing, like
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: you're giving yourself like a runway to like.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, order the album. I still want discovery. I
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: still want people to discover me and shit, so I'm
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: not like so big I can just drop out of
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: nowhere and have that, like do work for me.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Are the vinyls already done? No?
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: But they're close.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. People fuck up. They'll be like Yo, vinyls,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: don't worry, guys, Vinyls will be out six months because
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: we're a last minute with all these Yeah.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I wish he would do that. I'm like, man,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: let's just go now, Like this record is taking so long.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: There's old songs on this record. But it's like me
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: and him working on everything and he wants to do
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: it the right way business wise, and I want to
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: do it the right way artistically. That you know, it
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: just takes a while.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: How do you end up doing a song with Kevin Gates?
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Another very random?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Oh Jet, that's dude. You know Adam Straul, I know
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the name, I don't know. He was with us? And
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: where do we last see each other? On stage?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Dilated People's in Phoenix at a reggae festival.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Boom, Holy shit, your fucking rain man over here? There
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: was forty seven people on stage backstage for.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Was that weird reggae festival? I think was last year
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: with Dilated?
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were watching with kleiefand yeah yeah, yeah,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: yah uh. He was there with us, so I think
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: he's yeah, it was just it was just some business shit.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: But is it?
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Are you still like super down to like pay for
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: a feature at this point or is most of the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: stuff you're doing like yo, I like, well.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: It depends. I like I love to pay someone, to
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: be able to pay someone too, like to show them
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: my appreciation. So yeah, I don't know. I mean, if
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: it's a homie. We're gonna make like an album together,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: like a three song EP for a song EP. Well
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: just all right, let's go half and half or whatever.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: But you know, like I'm I'll take I'll take bride
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: and being able to be like what would you like?
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And then you know, also I feel like to like
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: it's a good look to have you on a song.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: It's like, yo, come into this world.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah it'll be it'll be good for you. Yeah, O
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: t keep on being like damn, man, I didn't know
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: like what I was stepping into. And he's very uh
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: appreciative of being on a big dog too.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: So do you have anybody who you would want to
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: do like a little banger of an EP with at
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: this point that you haven't worked with yet? Oh?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tons, I don't know. A little bang that's it.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: That's within like really you know, like I don't know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like you and yellowf would be a funny
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: p mmmm.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah I funk with that.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: We I mean, we just spent a month together, a
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: couple of whites rapping.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might get too powerful, man, I don't know,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: remind me too much.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: You got to bring the South and the North together.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Just there's two pockets of rap fans just coming together.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Here forming like Vultron, the ultimate white rap record.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: That'd be dope, though.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with them. I've already made a couple
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: of songs with them. We could throw that on there already.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: We made some old joints. Have you ever heard anything
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: song me and him? We got a couple from way
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: back in the day.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you guys, you guys already have that relationship?
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Was a do you feel like when it comes to
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: hip hop? Is would you consider like slug like the
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: goat of Minneapolis when it comes to the rap?
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Shit? Nah?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Who is the goat?
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Me?
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: You? Yeah?
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough? I respect it. Yeah? What about like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: because there's so many other underappreciated guys, I feel like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Adam Minneapolis. Who do you feel like the doesn't get
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: enough flowers? Like nationally?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Well? Shit, probably the north Side right now. There's so
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: many out of the north Side right now, black rappers
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: out the north side of Minneapolis. Yeah, killing it. I
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: just wish there was more, Like I don't know, I
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: don't know how to get it done anymore. But there's
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: fucking John Ray's going crazy, Prince Riley's dope. Man, I
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: don't want to miss anybody now. Now I'm just gonna
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: go off the slope and everyone's gonna be like, you
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: didn't say me, Pete will yet. Man, there's so many,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: but there's a lot of underappreciated rappers out of the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: North side of Minneapolis right now.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Is the vibe between Saint Paul and Minneapolis like super different?
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I lived in Tampa and they have Saint Petersburg and
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Tampa and it's very different. It's like there's like each
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: each side has got its own thing going, you know
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people, Twins cities for real, there ain't ship to
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: do like life and Saint Paul's like sleepier got their
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: ship together a little bit more like I don't know,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: like Minneapolis is like the rock star number one and
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Saint Paul.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Is like I spent a weekend there. I only went once.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I almost started working at GO ninety five to three.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeahs was on there. It was when Peter
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Parker first launched the station. Oh yeah, and uh they
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: had a cool thing going, and I think like the
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: brothers who owned the Twins owned the stations. So like
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: we got them doing the interview and they're like, hey,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you want to walk across the street to the Twins game?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean they're like no that
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think to understand. Like we're like we we're
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: like technically employees of the Twins. Like over here, like
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: buzzing into the That was a.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Cool gig bro like that was a great place. They
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: spent a lot of money on that. That was a
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: pole lad whoever owns the Twins.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: And pole Ax, Yeah, such a great station too. They
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: were playing something, they were doing it.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And they gave uh pete like power to play a
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: lot of things. Are doing it the right way? Yeah,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: and then but it was just like radio which was dying.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah anyways, so even their deep pocketed asses couldn't do nothing.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: That's how I got put on the Lizzo. I was
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: in town and like, what's her DJ's name, Sophia Sophia
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Harris was telling me like, yeah, she was like a
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: DJ for a Lizzo And I was like, I don't
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: know who that is. And I was like, oh, she's lit.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: But this was like twenty fuck twenty.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Sixteen, fifteen sixteen, seventeen something like that, something like that.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: What a time an All right, So the new album's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: coming out in June. Yeah, June twenty sixth, and uh yeah,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: got a lot of videos in the can. They're all
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: done now, man, we have I'm sitting on fucking content.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I could fucking I'm gonna go move to Vietnam and
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you're still gonna be seeing me. I have a buddy
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: named Eric le Rock currently in Vietnam.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I fuck with Vietnam heavy. I spent eighteen days in Vietnam.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Did you I heard it's very cheap.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I love the food, really good food. Day eighteen days.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: What were you up to where it? Just like I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: just want to get it like because people will like
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: literally go there and just unplug from the world.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's the place I will when I travel. I
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: don't want to go back to no place because the
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: earth is too big. Of course, I go back to Vietnam.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Was it what's the name of that beach town? I
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: heard the Psycho vibe. There's like a beach city there
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that's popular. I forget what it's called, but it's it's
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: it's it's sexy, bro like And I heard.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: You get like Hanoi Saigon they like to all the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: locals still called Saigon and what it's hoped you in.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite country you've been to.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: America?
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you were born here.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm not really that well traveled.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, never did Thailand.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: No, I just it was just Vietnam. I would do
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: a little Cambodia Thailand type of loop.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Thailand is the most coolest dynamic country I've ever been to.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I think Vietnam is like people compare a lot, but
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I think Vietnam doesn't have like the traffic yet.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you could go to Bangkok and it's like
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: being in New York City. But then if you go
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to Puquet, it's like Vegas fucked Hawaii. Yeah, it's wild
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: out there, but what there's like elephants and ship.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah Vegas fucked Hawaii with elephants, say.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy. Well, listen, the new album is coming, man,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up. Glad. We finally got to
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: make it happen.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Tour Coming, Tour coming, Yeah, we announced it a little
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: lead up tour to a big show, a grand finale
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. It'll be this year's Red Rocks ten thousand
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: cap venue in Minneapolis. Yea, dude, that's fucking awesome at
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the Armory November seventh. You might have to move it
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: to the Target Center if you sell out.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see you guys Links fans over there.
• 58:42
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys got rings there. Yeah, I love you guys,
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