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Nourish the Body, Heal the Spirit: A Holistic Guide to Dog Wellness with Kristie Ainsworth from Rawspirit Canine Nutrition · The Natural Dog Mum

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  Hi dog mums, Welcome back to another episode of the Natural
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  Dog Mum podcast. Today we're having a
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  conversation with Christy. She is an advanced cane on
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  nutritionist and she has all sorts of amazing teas and
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  products. She does nutritional consults
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  through her brand Raw Spirit Cane on Nutrition.
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  And we're going to be talking all things gut health and
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  healthy goodness for your dogs. Welcome and thanks for coming.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Thank you. Lovely.
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  Now I would love to hear a little bit about how you got
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  started in the space and what made you wanna get into canine
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  nutrition. Yeah.
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  So it's really evolved over many years.
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  I'm a Labrador breeder and have been for about 25 years now and
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  just feeding the normal things that we had to feed our puppies
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  as, as breeders, different health issues came up and I
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  just, I just didn't feel like we were nourishing our dogs
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  properly. And it ended up being one of my
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  chocolate Labradors. Tarly, who ended up with cancer
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  at the age of 9 after the vaccine, completely normal,
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  before that, completely healthy. And it came out of nowhere and
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  no one could help me. I went to so many vets and it
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  was right through her and we just couldn't do anything about
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  it. So I actually went to Kim Lim to
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  do some alternative medicine. I had cancer when I was 17 as
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  well, so I kind of always been looking alternatively at other
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  things because I had chemotherapy.
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  And that leaves you with deficits, I guess you could say.
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  So, yeah, I went to Kim Lin. She was incredible.
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  She did acupuncture, she did Chinese medicine.
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  And we spoke about diet. And I, I changed highly to raw
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  diet. And although we knew we weren't
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  going to have her forever, we did have this time where she
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  actually became a lot better and she really enjoyed her life.
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  And we had this amazing opportunity to say goodbye in a
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  really nice way. And that kind of was the turning
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  point for me. And I transitioned all my dogs
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  onto raw. So the whole breeding kennel.
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  And we just noticed the most incredible changes almost
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  immediately as well. We didn't have any ear
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  infections. Labradors are prone to ear, ear
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  stuff. Yes.
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  We didn't have any skin issues anymore.
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  Yeah, we didn't have any skin issues.
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  And our fertility just skyrocketed.
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  Interesting. Leaders of 13, you know, it was.
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  Yeah, it was crazy. So, yeah, we just seen the
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  benefits of feeding them all raw.
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  And that just kind of continued until I thought I need to be
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  qualified at what I'm doing. So I went and studied a couple
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  of different courses and plant medicine.
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  And yeah, that's how it all kind of just evolved over time.
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  And then I started collaborating with the pet food shops, which
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  kind of gave me the opportunity to get my products into shops
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  and also start consults. So yeah, it's it's been a
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  journey, but that's how I got here.
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  Lovely. So what sort of products are you
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  selling at the stores at the moment?
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  I know that you've got a balanced raw mix and you've got
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  some other herbal products as well.
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  Yeah, so we, we make raw dog food for adults and puppies,
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  completely balanced and exceeding AFCO standards.
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  It has all the supplements kind of needed.
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  There's Kiefer, there's veggies, there's fruits, there's hemp
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  seeds, tea seeds, cruella, spirulina.
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  Like there's a lot of different, different supplements in there.
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  So it's complete. And I also make supplements on
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  the side as well. So I have a overall health for
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  all ages, a puppy puppy one and also the seniors where there's a
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  bit of natural pain relief, but a lot of support for the joints,
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  brain and skin and, and coat as well.
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  And then I make teas as well. So there's teas for calming,
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  there's teas for digestion detox, probably detox is
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  probably the biggest thing that we need to do at the moment.
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  And then I do a gut reset, which kind of really heals the gut and
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  gets the, the microbiome firing on all cylinders again.
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  And yeah, that's kind of it. Hopefully so you're talking to
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  customers in the stores, they've got multiple locations, so
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  you've got your ear to the ground, so to speak, in terms of
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  issues that are coming up for pet parents.
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  Are there some common themes that you're noticing at the
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  moment, some common problems that that people are struggling
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  with? Yeah, so yeast is the biggest
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  thing. Seeing their dogs come in with
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  skin problems is the biggest. Itchy dogs ears, paws, eyes,
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  everything that's related to yeast, which is the gut.
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  So that's the thing that we have to work on the most.
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  And I think that's the thing that I'm trying to educate the
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  most, is that we need to have a healthy microbiome, healthy gut
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  so that we can support the whole body.
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  Because when that's not functioning, the symptoms that
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  we see are actually the gut telling us that there are issues
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  and that we need to heal that. Absolutely.
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  And the other thing, I think a lot of people don't realise the
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  link obviously, as you've said, between itchy skin and gut
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  health. But like humans, 70% of their
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  immune system lives inside the gut.
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  So it's not just the ear infections and the itchy skin
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  and those sorts of symptoms that you're seeing.
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  If it's left untreated, it can lead to all sorts of disease and
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  and further problems. Absolutely.
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  Chronic inflammation is the biggest thing and that, you
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  know, that comes from the gut. So people, yeah, we need to
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  educate people that, you know, if the gut has not been I looked
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  after or you've got leaky gut happening for a long period of
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  time, you're looking at arthritis, you're looking at
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  other inflammatory, even hormonal issues.
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  Some like Cushing's, all that kind of stuff comes from an
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  unhealthy gut. So in terms of leaky gut, for
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  the uninitiated, what what are some of the most common causes?
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  I I know that a highly processed diet is a big contributor there.
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  Yeah. So definitely they're highly
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  processed foods are the major contributors, but also over
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  vaccinating is having an issue. Anything where we're
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  compromising the immune system. So it's also pesticides, depends
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  on where you're walking your dogs, whether that's sprayed.
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  There's a lot of environmental stuff as well.
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  Dogs, they're walking that on their paws and then they're
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  licking their paws. So there's a lot of a lot of
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  different kind of elements that are all contributing to this.
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  And it's the same for humans. You know, a lot of humans are
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  going through the exact same thing.
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  So chronic inflammation is a big, a big issue in in all
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  areas. Absolutely.
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  Especially when you look at the ingredients panel of your
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  typical bag of processed food. You know, something like a
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  kibble? Sometimes the largest
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  ingredients in the bag are grains and cereals, and they're
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  huge contributors to inflammation in the body, aren't
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  they? Absolutely, carbohydrates are
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  the biggest issue and grains and legumes.
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  People say I've got grain free, but the legumes are full of
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  lectins and they cause a lot of a lot of other issues.
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  They kind of degrade the the gut lining over time as well.
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  So yeah. And it's not what they're meant
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  to eat. We talk about species
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  appropriate. It's not grains, it's not
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  fillers. It's, you know, it's primal food
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  that they would have been eating out in the wild.
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  And that's what we have to think about.
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  And that's how their guts are made to actually digest foods.
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  So they're made to, they have a short digestive system so that
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  they can get this protein and fats in and get them out
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  quickly. And that's something and I think
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  that we've all forgotten. We just think that processed
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  food is the way to go. It's easy.
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  I understand time is a big problem for a lot of people.
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  But when we get back to nature and really teach, teach people
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  or not not teach, but show people that this is what they're
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  supposed to eat, the transformation is really quick
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  and it's amazing. Like people, you will ring me
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  and say, Oh my God, my dog's a different dog.
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  Behaviour has changed, their attitude towards food has
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  changed, their energy levels have changed.
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  They're not itchy anymore. You know, they, they just seem
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  more happy. They're more connected to me.
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  They don't seem to be in as much pain.
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  So they're the benefits are just incredible.
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  Absolutely. So when you have a customer
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  who's presenting with a dog with gut issues or or say leaky gut,
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  obviously their day to day diet is the first thing that you're
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  looking at. Are there other other things
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  that you recommend to help heal the damage that's done and help
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  give them that protection that they need?
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  Yeah, absolutely. So there's a couple of ways we
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  go. The first one is healing the
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  gut. So I make a product called Gut
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  Reset, which relines the gut and repopulates the gut as well.
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  A lot of people will just try and transition from dry to raw
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  thinking that that's OK. But if you've got a leaky gut,
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  the raw food isn't going to be digested and the nutrients
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  aren't going to be absorbed. So you've still got the problem.
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  So going back to fix the gut is the biggest one.
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  Our glutamine is probably the key to to healing a gut.
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  And then once we've done that, we need to look at detoxing as
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  well. So if we're talking about
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  something like yeast, yeast actually gives off toxins when
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  it dies off, which makes symptoms look 10 times worse.
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  So we need to use binders which actually bind together with the
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  the toxins that the yeast are giving off and then remove it.
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  Well, with the detox, that's probably the only, the only way
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  that you're actually going to remove yeast is to kill it off
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  and then get it out with the detox and then we get it to a
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  balanced level. You're never going to kill it
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  off completely. That's kind of impossible.
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  But we need it to be a happy balance where it's all balanced
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  in the gut, the microbiome is functioning really well.
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  And that's how we that's how we heal the yeast, the itches stop
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  everything kind of all the symptoms subside.
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  So. Can you give us some examples of
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  maybe a couple of the ingredients that can help with
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  these issues around the gut? Yes, Al glutamine, as I
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  mentioned, is probably the best thing to be putting into a gut.
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  I've seen that heal gastroenteritis or hemoduric
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  gastroenteritis within a day. Things like marshmallow root, SB
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  putting the pro, the probiotics back in.
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  Slippery Elm is another good one.
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  I also put a little bit of milk Thistle just to kind of detox as
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  well. Just kind of clear out the there
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  are toxins that may be sitting in there as well.
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  Yeah. And then with the the detox, I
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  use Cruella for a binder. There's a lot of different
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  things in there as well. But also I use a couple of
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  different things actually kill yeast.
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  So some antifungals and things like that really work well.
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  Excellent. And the, the other really
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  important part to go with that, that I think a lot of pet
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  ironers would not necessarily know when you've got these
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  toxins entering the dog's system, you know, that are not
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  only upsetting the gut, the other problem is even though
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  they're passing these things through the gut, there are still
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  traces that remain and that tends to compound over time.
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  And if it gets, if it gets to such a point, then you can, you
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  know, you can be looking at issues with the liver and
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  possibly the kidneys because their poor little body is
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  working over time to try and rid itself of all of these toxins,
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  but it can't keep up. Essentially, if you're feeding a
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  high process diet, if you're not supporting the gut, you know,
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  chemicals that you might be using around the home, chemicals
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  or not so friendly ingredients in any topical products that
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  you're using, it's all ending up inside the body.
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  And that's another potential consequence health wise.
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  Yeah, I make a detox which is separate to the yeast detox for
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  exactly that reason, especially for dogs that have been on
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  antibiotics and different kind of it's also good to clear,
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  clear out the liver as well. And they say if you've got a
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  healthy liver, you actually won't have any health issues.
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  So we know that detoxing is so important, especially for these
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  guys, which is so exposed to so many different things all the
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  time. Absolutely.
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  And it's not just things that they're eating.
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  I mean, people don't realise the skin is the body's largest organ
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  for them and for us. So even though it might not
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  instantly be inside the body, something that's even they've
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  come into contact with through their paws or through their
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  skin, it's going to be absorbed inside the body and wind up in
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  the bloodstream, you know, And it's just one of those things
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  that I don't think there's a huge amount of awareness about.
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  So far, no. Yeah, absolutely true.
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  If you can look after the liver and keep the keep the liver
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  really strong and really healthy, well then it's doing
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  its job. It's removing all of the toxins
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  in the body, all of the things that should be there.
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  So you've you've got a healthy dog.
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  Yeah, it's like doing something like that every six months I
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  think is a really good, good idea.
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  Even if you know, your dog hasn't been exposed to anything
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  that you know of the the environmental exposure to things
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  is, is always going to be there for them and us.
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  Yeah. So it's it's a good way just
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  keeping on top of things as well.
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  Absolutely. And especially as you mentioned,
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  for any dog that's been on antibiotics or any, any sort of
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  medication really supporting the liver, just just to help it
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  metabolise things so that you haven't got, you know, remnants
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  of these toxins hanging around in the body.
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  It's just so important. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Like for example, flea treatment was found in the cerebral fluid
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  children because they've padded their dog after the they've had
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  the flea treatment on the back of the necks.
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  If you touch it, it's on your, it's in, it's absorbed into you
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  for 30 days, basically, yeah, whether you wash it off or.
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  Not realise how easy it is. And look, it's weed killer.
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  So like if you go to Bunnings and look at look at weed killer,
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  you're going to see the same ingredients.
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  Yeah, it's highly, highly toxic stuff.
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  And it's the same with, you know, even looking at things
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  like medicated shampoos, you know, Maliceb and those sorts of
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  things. It's a risk to you.
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  It's a risk to the kids if they touch the dog when it's just
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  being treated. And it's an absolute health risk
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  to the poor dog because it's absorbing this chemical cocktail
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  through its skin that winds up in the bloodstream.
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  It's horrible stuff but people just don't realise.
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  No, no they don't. So one of the other things that
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  we were talking about off camera that was really, really
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  interesting was about trying to talk to pet owners more about
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  just being aware of their energy, of their moods, of their
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  headspace when they're dealing with their dog.
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  I mean, they're like toddlers. They're little sponges.
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  They so absorb everything. So whatever it is that you might
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  be feeling at a particular time or if there's a lot of stress in
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  the household, your dog could be taking that on and that could be
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  causing problems. That's something you've seen a
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  little bit in your consults, isn't it?
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  Yeah, absolutely. And if we think of ourselves as
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  energetic beings, we're transmitting and you know where
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  we've got energy, our energy systems are working at all
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  times. So anytime I see an anxious dog,
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  I have to speak to the owner about whether they have anxiety
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  or what's going on with them, what's going on for them in the
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  house, what the dog's exposed to like energetically, because that
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  is a major part of what I see. I see some people will, you
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  know, limp into a consult with a bad knee and they'll come in and
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  say, oh, my dog's done a cruciate ligament.
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  And I'm like, yeah, OK, do you see the, can you see the, the
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  link here? And nine times out of 10, sorry,
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  but when you say it, they're like, Oh my God.
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  And they actually can see that there's definitely a spiritual
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  connection between us and our dogs.
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  They're, they're our earth angels.
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  Like they come to us with purpose.
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  And as I say to everyone, you know, you've got this big world
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  around you, but you are their world.
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  You are their purpose. And so they take what they can
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  from you, whether it's anxiety, whether it's pain, whether it's
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  I, I even believe like cancer. I think energetically they can
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  take things from us. And I think learning that, you
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  know, and they'll do that no matter what.
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  It's not that you're giving them that's their, that's their job
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  as, as what they do for you, but you know, working out things
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  that actually release that for them.
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  So finally, I'll always ask what their, their happy place is like
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  where is it? Where what is it makes them just
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  so happy. And they'll wait.
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  It's the beach or it's the water or, you know, it's running and
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  chasing birds or something like that.
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  And then we have to, I have to incorporate that in saying, oh,
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  that's the stuff we've got to do because that's where they're
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  going to release all this energy and that's what's going to keep
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  them them healthy as well. So yeah, definitely the
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  energetic bond between people owner and and dog is, is quite
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  incredible really. Absolutely take it.
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  Taking on those emotions or absorbing the stress in their
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  home environment can actually manifest itself in in physical
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  illness, for example, there's a lot of stress in the home
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  environment. How that they can they can end
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  up even with gut issues just because of the tension.
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  Yeah. I mean, I mean, I, I know from,
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  I know from myself whenever I would get stressed, even as a
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  little kid, I would end up with a shit tummy.
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  Me too. And I think, I think it, I think
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  at times, I mean especially if you've got a dog that is a
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  little bit more anxious, I think that can be that can be quite
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  unsettling and even contribute to the problem as well.
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  Absolutely. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Gut issues are definitely caused by stress, whether it be like
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  from their owners or just the environment that they're in.
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  Or at least a contributor. I mean, there might be something
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  physical going on as well, but if there's stress in the
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  environment as well, it's absolutely going to going to
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  exacerbate the situation. Yeah, yeah.
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  And an anxious dog will always have gut issues when they come
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  in. That's that's it just goes hand
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  in hand. Yeah.
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  And if we think of the the gut as a as the second brain, it
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  makes perfect sense that the two are connected.
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  Yeah, absolutely. I was talking to a a dog trainer
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  recently who really focuses a lot on diet, not a, not a
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  nutritionist or or a naturopathic trainer.
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  And people were always sort of surprised and wondering why he
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  was asking questions about diet just because, I mean, with any
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  dog, whether anxiety is an issue or not, there can there can be
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  such such a close relationship between what you're feeding,
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  what you're putting into them and even their behaviour, their
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  ability to focus, their ability to concentrate and to take
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  commands, their ability to be open to communication.
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  I don't think people quite realise how strong that
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  relationship is. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And if you think about children as well these days, like there's
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  a lot of ADHD out there and a lot of different mental health
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  concerns and you know, what are these kids eating?
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  There's definitely there's definitely a direct link.
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  Yeah, I mean, you, you take a, you know, a young child who's
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  who's just had McDonald's or had red cordial or had lollies, you
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  know, they're, they're on a sugar high and they're climbing
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  the walls. Same with your pets.
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  It's the same with the dog. If you feed them, you know,
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  highly processed foods, you're going to, Yeah, you're going to
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  see a difference in the. That's exactly it.
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  So the Cuba is carbohydrates, which turns into sugars, and
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  they have these highs, they have these big peaks, and then they
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  have these big come downs as well.
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  Yeah. Which can also lead to things
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  like moodiness, the quality, concentrating, all of those
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  sorts of things. My dogs don't have any
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  particular behavioural issues, but I noticed even years ago
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  when I first transitioned them to raw, they were quieter, they
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  were more settled and they listened better.
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  Yeah, just because. Satisfied because.
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  Clean. Yeah, and they're getting the
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  nutrients that their body needs. Yeah, Yeah, absolutely.
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  I mean, they weren't particularly acting out or
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  particularly naughty. They were pretty good.
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  The occasional case of selective hearing, nothing major, but and
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  I wasn't expecting it. That was a, that was a nice side
• 20:11
  effect of transitioning them to raw that I hadn't even expected.
• 20:16
  They were. They just seemed calmer and more
• 20:19
  settled and more like you. Cool, whatever.
• 20:23
  Yeah, yeah, Their bodies, their bodies are satisfied with the
• 20:26
  nutrients they're getting. They don't have to kind of act
• 20:28
  out or reach out to try and get what they they're looking for.
• 20:32
  Yeah. And it's it's it's the biggest
• 20:36
  thing a lot of people will comment on is how happy their
• 20:39
  dogs get at food time. So they've, they've always eaten
• 20:41
  food and they've given it a kibble, but now, you know,
• 20:44
  they're jumping on the bench, you know, wanting the food or
• 20:47
  they're doing the food dance or they're, you know, they just
• 20:49
  light up at at food time. And like that for me is really
• 20:52
  exciting. And it's a beautiful thing that
• 20:55
  they get to be excited about having their bodies.
• 20:58
  They. Think it's Christmas every day?
• 20:59
  They. Do yeah.
• 21:01
  And that and that's the thing. You isn't just about putting
• 21:04
  food in their mouth. There's so many different
• 21:06
  aspects to it. You know, we have to nourish
• 21:08
  their mind, body and spirit. And when we're doing that,
• 21:11
  that's when we have healthy dogs, and that's that like that.
• 21:13
  Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So if you could leave our
• 21:18
  listeners and our viewers with a piece of advice, what's what's
• 21:23
  something that you really want more pet parents to know or to
• 21:27
  think about? Yeah.
• 21:29
  I think, I think the the takeaway would have to be that
• 21:33
  there is a spiritual connection between you and your dog.
• 21:36
  And when you understand that and you are connected to your dog,
• 21:39
  their communication just becomes available.
• 21:42
  You actually can understand, you can read your dog and they can
• 21:45
  do the same as well. And I think when we think about
• 21:47
  nutrition, thinking about it as a whole, not just, as I said,
• 21:51
  putting the food in their mouth, but making sure that they are
• 21:55
  spiritually taken care of, which means, you know, giving them
• 21:58
  love. All dogs need is food and love
• 22:00
  and a little bit of exercise. But yeah, making sure that we're
• 22:03
  taking care and nurturing their mind, body and spirit, and also
• 22:07
  that we have the opportunity to heal and help them and nourish
• 22:12
  them in every bowl of food that we give them.
• 22:14
  So when we think like that and you're trying to create a food
• 22:18
  bowl and what we're trying to do is basically recreate a body in
• 22:22
  the bowl. When we think about it that way
• 22:24
  holistically, we get to really play a major role in the
• 22:29
  longevity of our dogs. So the control is actually in
• 22:33
  our hands. I think that's probably the
• 22:35
  biggest thing And, and that's why I'm here.
• 22:36
  I'm here to support people and kind of guide them so that they
• 22:40
  feel they feel like they can do it without worrying.
• 22:42
  So a lot of people are worried about raw feeding and and not
• 22:46
  doing it right, but that's what we're here for and the benefits
• 22:50
  are just, they're quite incredible to be honest.
• 22:52
  Absolutely. And the right, the range in
• 22:54
  store makes it so easy if you if you want to do things yourself,
• 22:59
  you can pick and choose your proteins and your components.
• 23:02
  If you time for like me, you can buy something that's completely
• 23:06
  balanced that has the fruit and the veggies and the extras in it
• 23:09
  with the with the protein that you're after and you literally
• 23:13
  just pick it, pick it up and take it home.
• 23:15
  You can serve it raw, you can lock you cook it if that agrees
• 23:19
  with your dog. More.
• 23:22
  And seven locations around Victoria makes it to that makes
• 23:26
  it. That's what's so exciting about
• 23:29
  the pet food shops is that, and that's why I aligned so well
• 23:32
  with them is because they're there to help.
• 23:34
  So you know that everyone in there can help you if you do
• 23:37
  have questions. But the the variety like you
• 23:40
  can, you know, the proteins are amazing.
• 23:42
  There's so many different kinds of proteins, so many different
• 23:45
  kinds of bones. If your dog can't eat, you know,
• 23:47
  beef bones, there's kangaroo bones, there's duck bones,
• 23:50
  there's chicken bones. We've got the softer stuff if
• 23:53
  you need it. So there's just a massive array
• 23:56
  to choose from, and that's what's so exciting.
• 23:58
  Absolutely. I mean, I went past the Ballarat
• 24:01
  store last week because I was in the area and I picked, I'd like
• 24:05
  to pick up a few extra goodies while I'm there to pop in the
• 24:08
  freezer. They had goat mints, they had
• 24:11
  rabbit. They had a manner of things that
• 24:13
  you just cannot get anywhere. Where I live, the baby's got
• 24:17
  duck wings. They've never had a duck wing in
• 24:20
  their life and nearly went crazy.
• 24:22
  Even fresh snap frozen sardines. Most dogs never get sardines
• 24:26
  unless they're in a tin, which is, which is fine if you, you
• 24:30
  know, if you're avoiding the the oils and you're going for
• 24:33
  something in spring water, that's fine.
• 24:35
  But to be able to get them fresh, you can just see while
• 24:39
  the look on their little faces and the eyeballs popping, you
• 24:43
  know? Yeah.
• 24:46
  Such a sensory experience for them.
• 24:48
  They've never had fresh sardines in their life and they couldn't
• 24:51
  get them down past enough. Yeah, that's why I love the
• 24:53
  easy. Future and it's not expensive,
• 24:55
  you know. Exactly.
• 24:57
  Yeah. And my blends that I make, I've,
• 24:59
  I've got the opportunity with these guys to do goat.
• 25:02
  There's a goat blend, there's a venison blend, there's a Roux
• 25:04
  blend and a beef blend. So like the variety is there.
• 25:07
  If you have skin issues, then goat is a great option.
• 25:11
  We've really tried to tailor it so that we can help absolutely
• 25:13
  everybody. Yeah.
• 25:14
  Oh, it's, it's absolutely fantastic having that variety.
• 25:18
  I mean, not only is it good just to get it in rotation, so
• 25:21
  they're getting a variety of proteins and all the different
• 25:24
  nutrients, having that flexibility there.
• 25:27
  I mean, I feed my guys a base of a base of chicken because my
• 25:31
  boys got a sensitive tum tum chronic anxiety.
• 25:34
  But then what I do is every couple of days I will add
• 25:38
  something else in there. So it might be Roux on this day,
• 25:41
  it might be a venison bone, it might be a bit of dark.
• 25:44
  I've, I've worked out now over time how much a variety I can
• 25:48
  give him without upsetting his tummy.
• 25:50
  And then we just have a day in between where we just stick to
• 25:53
  what he knows, chicken, Turkey, fish, you know, to give his
• 25:58
  tummy a little bit of a break. But they're loving it, yeah.
• 26:01
  Yeah, yeah. They love the variety and that
• 26:03
  and that's key to to raw feeding is, you know, you can balance
• 26:06
  over time unless it's a puppy, but as an adult you can balance
• 26:10
  over time and give them that variety.
• 26:12
  So it's, yeah, it's great. Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:15
  Well, thank you so much for coming on.
• 26:17
  It's been so lovely chatting with you and we need to get you
• 26:20
  back because there's so much more we can talk about.
• 26:22
  There is yes, no. Thank you for having.
• 26:25
  Me anytime, anytime. Let's see that squishy again.
• 26:29
  Are they down at your feet? Yes, they are.
• 26:31
  Let me grab one. Do you have a look to say,
• 26:33
  darling, look at you? Is that the little boy or the
• 26:37
  little girl? This is the boy.
• 26:39
  The face on him. My man, you are the George
• 26:42
  Clooney of puppies. Yes, you are.
• 26:45
  I'm going to call you George Clooney.
• 26:48
  Yes, I am. You is so handsome.
• 26:51
  Honey, honey, you're not happy. Taste beautiful.
• 26:55
  No, because. When I'm awake, it's food time.
• 26:58
  Yeah, of course I'm sleeping, pooping or it's time to eat.
• 27:03
  Exactly. Thank you for saying hello,
• 27:07
  Sebastian. It's very nice to meet your
• 27:10
  body. Oh, you're going to snuggle with
• 27:12
  grandma now. OK.
• 27:15
  Don't want my milk. He's my milk.
• 27:17
  He's still snipping. He's making me puppy sick, he
• 27:20
  really is.