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#55 | Joshua Verduzco · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_00: Corpus Christi Originals back at it again.
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SPEAKER_00: Appreciate y'all for joining.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, coming to you live from the produced Streamlabs studio downtown Corpus Christi, Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, today we have Joshua Verdusco.
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SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
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SPEAKER_06: What's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_06: Thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, how did so?
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SPEAKER_00: How did you feel when I invited you on the show?
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SPEAKER_06: I was like, let's talk.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So we were mentioned you mentioned earlier you like podcasting.
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SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you so you like the art of conversation.
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SPEAKER_06: I love it.
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SPEAKER_06: I love it.
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SPEAKER_06: I've watched so many podcasts, as a lot of people have.
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SPEAKER_06: I think in the end of the day, most humans are uh inherently love to have a conversation.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's what's up.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you always been like that?
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SPEAKER_00: So where you like having conversations with people?
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SPEAKER_06: No.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, in fact, uh, I was a very quiet kid.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, uh, but I would observe a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And I think after so many years of observing, I finally said, okay, I have something to say.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice, nice.
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SPEAKER_00: So I so I guess you had to figure out how to how to converse at that point, too, right?
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SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_06: I used to be terrified of talking.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I like conversation too, man.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I like it so much that people were like, dude, just stop talking, leave me alone.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes I don't know if they want me to talk to them or not.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just test the water.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Just throw something out there and try to figure out if they do want to talk or not.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, it yeah, and that's a great point because oftentimes we're also looking to resonate or connect with people very immediately or quickly.
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SPEAKER_06: And that's what I try to do as well is not everybody's gonna want to talk in the beginning.
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SPEAKER_06: But if I can find something that just sparks that ignites them, then we'll have a conversation for hours.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, assimilator.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what I noticed too.
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SPEAKER_00: Like find something that's similar and just focus on that.
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SPEAKER_06: Look at us.
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SPEAKER_06: As soon as I said podcast, he Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: Which uh uh wanted a shout out to the podcast that you were recently on.
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SPEAKER_00: I forgot what was it?
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SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_00: Charge the line.
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SPEAKER_00: Charge the line, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: With Roger.
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SPEAKER_00: With Roger.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out to them.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hey, he's from Corpus uh, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, UFC Fighter.
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SPEAKER_00: UFC Fighter, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought so.
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SPEAKER_00: Doesn't he have a didn't he have a gym or somewhere in town?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, he does, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh near Flauber Bluff.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: I don't know where he's at now, but I mean we all move, we're always all moving, so yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: But yeah, great guys over there, T and and Roger were great hosts, great podcasters.
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SPEAKER_06: So yeah, um, I'm looking to come go back on their show too as well for a second one.
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SPEAKER_00: And and you're contemplating on starting one yourself.
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SPEAKER_06: I would love to start a podcast.
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SPEAKER_06: I mean, you know how everyone says, uh, you know, for your friend or whoever, hey, we should start a podcast, bro.
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SPEAKER_06: But you know, it's you know, if you want to do it legit in a legit way, I mean, there's a lot of things that you need to learn yourself, you know, from audio to video to et cetera, et cetera, to uploading.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, but if you have that, you know, um you if you're ready for all that, then yeah, absolutely you can do it.
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SPEAKER_06: You can make it happen.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's fun, man.
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SPEAKER_00: I like it.
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SPEAKER_00: I like it.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, welcome to the show, man.
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SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so so people who don't know you, um introduce yourself.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so um, I like to say that I'm just like everyone else, you know, just a person on this earth who um enjoys just the fact that he was born in the United States, born a human, yeah, you know, uh very grateful for everything around me.
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SPEAKER_06: That's the type of outlook I have on life in general.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, I had my share fair share of challenges just like every other human on this earth.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, but I think uh all in all, I'm just grateful for this opportunity and this shot I get at life.
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SPEAKER_00: Nice.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, and um I'll just do a brief little overview.
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SPEAKER_06: I mean, I was homeschooled.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh many people don't know that.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, I was homeschooled from second grade to ninth grade, never went to a public middle school.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, and alongside with my three other brothers, and um had both of my parents and they raised us.
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SPEAKER_06: My mom taught us all the different subjects from those respective grades, and eventually went to high school, Moody High School, shout out to them, uh, graduated in 2009, and uh had zero plans of ever going to college.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, but it wasn't up until I was working at a pawn shop uh in 2009, I was 19 years old, and uh it was Cash America down uh on Port and Airs.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and um I was looking around and I saw my coworkers who had been there for their respective years, 10 years, 20 years, some 30 years, and I asked myself, you know, do I want to be doing this for a long time?
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SPEAKER_06: And I said, No, I think I have other interests outside of this.
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SPEAKER_06: And at the time I was dating this girl and she was going to university, and she said, Hey, you're a smart dude, why don't you consider going to college?
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SPEAKER_06: I was like, Really?
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SPEAKER_06: Okay, I don't know what I want to do.
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SPEAKER_06: And so I thought about it that right.
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SPEAKER_06: I thought about finance, I thought about um, I don't know, science and all the main you know topics or subjects.
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SPEAKER_06: And um, I just say, you know what?
4:45
SPEAKER_06: At the time I was getting really into working out uh at the old uh freedom fitness down Staples, uh where corner bakery is.
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SPEAKER_06: Wow.
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SPEAKER_06: And um I was like, wow, I'll just be like every other meathead and go into kin kinesiology.
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SPEAKER_06: And uh I yeah, I started uh at University of Corpus in 20 uh 11, fall of 2011, and started pursuing some type of degree.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Um and just like everyone else didn't know exactly what I wanted to get into and changed my major several times.
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SPEAKER_06: So all you kids out there who feel like it's the end of the world that you don't know what you're gonna do, I it happens to every single person.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh but eventually something will catch your eye, something will will uh possess you, if you will, and and you'll you'll become interested in it.
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SPEAKER_06: And um that interest in biology or science and uh the human body uh eventually led me to pursuing uh two degrees in nutrition.
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SPEAKER_00: Nice.
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SPEAKER_06: Um I left AMCC to then attend uh Texas AM University of Keynesville.
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SPEAKER_06: Right, and that that's where I completed both of my degrees.
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SPEAKER_00: Both of them.
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SPEAKER_00: So you got the bachelor's in what's in science?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, human science and then master's in human science.
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SPEAKER_00: Dope.
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SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: And they're both in uh so you're a dietitian?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_06: Registered or certified or yeah, no, that that's a great question.
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SPEAKER_06: So it's a registered dietitian, nutritionist.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You were mentioning in the podcast uh I could be a nutritionist, you could be a nutritionist, and everybody would be cool with it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but as a dietitian, you got to be certified, I guess in the state of Texas, right?
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SPEAKER_06: So yeah, the way it works is uh once I complete the um appropriate program at university, then I have to complete an unpaid dietetic internship.
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SPEAKER_06: And that internship uh can vary from anywhere from six months to 12 months.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
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SPEAKER_06: And again, unpaid, and that's exactly what I did.
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SPEAKER_06: In 2018, I did a nine-month unpaid internship, and we had clinical rotations.
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SPEAKER_06: We had clinical rotations, so I went to hospitals, I went to long-term care facilities to provide nutrition services for the patients.
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SPEAKER_06: They also put us in community settings, so I also worked at the food bank for a little bit, uh, as well as food service industry as well.
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SPEAKER_06: So I worked at uh hospital, but inside of the kitchen.
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_06: So uh lots of various aspects within nutrition.
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SPEAKER_06: And uh after I completed the nine-month internship, I was then eligible to take the uh examination for dietitians, and this is nationally recognized.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
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SPEAKER_06: And so um, and a lot of people know this because I did share it back in 2018.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, I failed my first exam.
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SPEAKER_06: Wow, and that was a defeating blow because all throughout my college um career, I did exceptionally well.
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SPEAKER_06: All right, I made the dean list several times over, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: I I was an A and B student.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, so to finally fail at the top of where you're about to get your degree and you know, enter the professional career, I failed.
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SPEAKER_06: Wow, and that was a crushing blow for me at the time at my age and where I was.
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SPEAKER_06: But of course, uh I didn't come all that way just to say, you know, whatever.
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SPEAKER_06: I I I allowed myself to feel.
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SPEAKER_06: I I remember the room got dark and I had my stomach turned and it was an ugly feeling.
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SPEAKER_06: But um, after that, I let that pass and I said, okay, what's the plan?
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SPEAKER_06: Take the test in another 30 days.
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SPEAKER_06: Past it.
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SPEAKER_06: Don't even think about it, don't even remember it.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, but it was it was a great opportunity for me to learn about myself and just some challenges that everybody faces.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man, just just to get to one through one degree is a lot of work.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's a lot of studying.
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SPEAKER_00: I have a degree in music.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, I mean, it's you still gotta do work and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_00: But just that is uh I got to the last semester and I was like, man, I don't want to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: I know you know what I mean.
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SPEAKER_00: Same here.
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SPEAKER_00: You get that feeling, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I mean, how do you overcome that type those types of adversities?
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SPEAKER_00: Have you always been that way?
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SPEAKER_00: Is you know how how do you find yourself doing that?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, that's a great question.
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SPEAKER_06: I think um, again, like I mentioned earlier, um uh instead of telling yourself that you can't feel these things, allow yourself to feel those things.
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SPEAKER_06: Welcome welcome those emotions, whether they're it's anger, whether it's sadness.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh but then after you allow yourself to experience that in an array of emotions, then come back to the plate and and be like, okay, what needs to be done?
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SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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SPEAKER_06: And I think I've been able to do that okay over the last several years.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, so it allow me to freely feel, but then also get back on plan.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, I like that.
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SPEAKER_00: I like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't welcome those emotions so you can so because they're gonna keep coming throughout your life.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so just being able to overcome that adversity, man, that's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you're registered in in the United States.
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SPEAKER_06: So the credential is recognized nationally, but then I'm licensed in the state of Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, yes, okay, so you gotta get both of those.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah right on.
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SPEAKER_00: So and when I think uh dietitian, or actually nobody uses that word.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: It's always what is it?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh nutritionists, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm thinking like people people that go to the gym all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: This you know, gym buffs of gym gym rats, I guess you could call them.
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SPEAKER_00: But would you work with people that are actually uh like sick or have diseases, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Correct, yeah, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So do you do you uh have nutritionist plans for other for like the gym rats, I guess you could say, or do you have you do?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay, yeah, I've I've worked with a variety of um clients, patients, uh people from all walks, from youth all the way to elderly, yeah, all the way from you know, um patients who have this these variety of different diseases to just your average person who wants to look great at the beach.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, right on.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh I want to go back.
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SPEAKER_00: You mentioned homeschool, uh, which are you are you considering homeschooling your your kids?
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SPEAKER_06: I don't know yet.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, yeah, I I I don't know enough about the landscape.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh I hear things all the time, right?
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SPEAKER_06: Um public school, this, that, and then private schools, and then there's uh you know science and technology, those are good ones.
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SPEAKER_06: Like I I don't know enough about that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: It's pretty lax in the state of Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh actually, it's there's not a lot of constraints.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's actually very interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: I I asked you that because you're you're in my my daughter's being homeschooled.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: So then you said you were homeschooled up until high school, which and then you said it was a culture shock.
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SPEAKER_00: It was okay, because you're always with your your unit at home, and then you go to high school.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, how much of a culture shock was it for you?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so I think again, what helped me uh from initially as a freshman in high school was that I had joined the football team.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah so I merely was assimilated to some type of group, and that made me feel good.
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SPEAKER_06: I felt like okay, I knew some people, and I'm part of this club or group, which is the football team.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and so that did help the transition.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, but even then I was just so used to my parents, so used to my brothers, to when now I started interacting with all of these peers, these other kids my age, and hearing how they talked, seeing how they behaved, you know, not that I was any better, it's just I didn't know anything, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh or a whole lot.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, and so I think from that sense, like I mentioned earlier off uh the chat that uh I was just observing.
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SPEAKER_06: And so, you know, if someone were to speak to me, I'd I'd come up with some replies.
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SPEAKER_06: But other than that, you know, I just observed a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: You feel like you were like on a different level, I guess, with your peers?
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SPEAKER_00: Like, no, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I I would think that because when you're I think you would learn more when you're with your parents as opposed to being with your peers.
12:39
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I see what you mean.
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SPEAKER_00: You see what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, I didn't I don't think I was really thinking that at the time because I was still, you know, a young kid.
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SPEAKER_06: Right, right.
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SPEAKER_06: And I was like, okay, do I look good?
12:49
SPEAKER_06: You know, is is there am I gonna be attractive to girls?
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SPEAKER_06: Like, right, you have that mindset that you you you fall into when you're in that type of environment.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, and maybe that's probably not a good thing, you know, because to your point, maybe my parents were instilling all these things, these values, these paths that they wanted us to take, but then the the public school system is just I realized very quickly, it's like, oh, this is just about hooking up and you know, yeah, just getting distracted, basically.
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SPEAKER_06: Exactly, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh, not that they're setting it up that way, but it's just I don't know, it's just that's how it works, I guess.
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SPEAKER_06: And so I will say from that standpoint, I started to get distracted uh in public school versus homeschooled, obviously.
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SPEAKER_06: It only makes sense.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you're there with your parents and they want the best for you, and then you go into this public school system where you have very little monitoring um and you're kind of fending for yourself, which is still good.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: I'll I'll say that because I didn't need to learn how to socialize.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: Of course, yes.
13:49
SPEAKER_06: And so from that aspect, I think it it well, it did help me.
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SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I agree to that too.
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SPEAKER_00: And we even having my daughter, I'm like, she's gotta get around her peers.
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SPEAKER_00: She can't just be around us all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's gotta learn how to be herself among her peers.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Which because like I I was diagnosed ADD, ADHD, or whatever.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: And I and I understand that uh it a little bit more nowadays, and I look back, I'm like, this is why this happened, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I'm socially awkward too, I don't get social cues and all this stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: As you can imagine, a kid, a young kid doesn't get those cues.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: Kids can automatically just get alright, cast them out, you know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: Or bully them.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh the the topic of bullying, that man, that's uh it's interesting you bring that up.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: Um I guess there's really no safe place for bullying because they say safe space or whatever, right?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: So bullying it's gonna happen.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: So I guess like you said, uh learning to how to uh I guess have those adversities to help you.
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SPEAKER_00: So what would you teach your kid?
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SPEAKER_00: Like if somebody is bullying them, like how how would you teach them to handle that?
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SPEAKER_06: Uh first of all, I don't know yet.
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SPEAKER_06: But if I had to make some something up right now on the top of my head, based on my values and my beliefs and everything that I've learned so far in life, I guess it would be uh kind of find the source of why this person is doing those particular things.
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SPEAKER_06: Um I mean it it just depends on if they're being physical or not or just verbally.
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SPEAKER_06: So it's a lot of context, but I guess I want I would want my child to be curious about why that person is doing it rather than combative or reactive.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
15:33
SPEAKER_06: Um and just in a sense, feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the bully that they're having to display these outbursts and these uh derogatory comments to everyone around them and just be like, oh, that's that's interesting, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: Maybe ask them a question.
15:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, what what what's what's causing you to do this?
15:52
SPEAKER_06: Obviously, that's in a perfect scenario.
15:55
SPEAKER_06: I mean, when you're you know going combat with a bully straight on.
15:59
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_06: It just you know, you would contact somebody who who's a um a parent or a authority in that facility and then go from there.
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SPEAKER_06: But yeah, yeah, I I would just teach them like, hey, look, you know, um don't don't fall while in fear when someone comes to you, you know, stand up for yourself and and speak clearly and concisely.
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SPEAKER_06: So I would just teach them how to speak, essentially.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and equip like it's kind of along the lines of qu equipping them to you know, this can happen, because it's not you, this person can have this or whatever.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: That's interesting that you bring that up because both there's two people involved in that transaction.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I mean you're coming from another place.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: Hi Francesca on YouTube.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, that's awesome, man.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: So Moody Trojans in the house?
16:45
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
16:45
SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
16:47
SPEAKER_00: That's a thought, dude.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I've had several people on here.
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SPEAKER_00: Moody, like a handful, like they're all moody people, man.
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SPEAKER_04: Yep.
16:55
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, what's going on over there at Moody, man?
16:57
SPEAKER_00: What's in the water?
16:58
SPEAKER_00: You guys are there's a lot of us.
16:59
SPEAKER_00: Did I tell you that?
17:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there is.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: There is.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's another guy.
17:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, he makes uh cleats for for athletes and stuff like that.
17:07
SPEAKER_00: He's from the Moody area too.
17:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: And it's all like uh, and you said you have side hustles, and yeah, a lot of y'all have side hustles.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: So what are you working on now?
17:15
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so so currently my my side hustle would be uh basically media, specifically photography and videography.
17:23
SPEAKER_06: Um, a little bit of nutrition consulting, um, but primarily uh media at this time.
17:29
SPEAKER_00: So why is that?
17:30
SPEAKER_00: What what what what why'd you decide to do that?
17:32
SPEAKER_06: Uh but I'll tell you exactly why.
17:34
SPEAKER_06: So when I was a child, I was very, very interested in the creative um space.
17:40
SPEAKER_06: So I would love to draw, paint, um, build Legos, puzzles.
17:46
SPEAKER_06: Uh my grandma had these uh 3D puzzles where you would build up.
17:50
SPEAKER_06: Uh but there were puzzles, there were castles.
17:53
SPEAKER_06: And I just loved every time I go to my grandma's, I'd be like, Grandma, do you got that castle?
17:58
SPEAKER_06: And I would just build it.
17:59
SPEAKER_06: And I loved building things and seeing things come up out of from my mind to creating something and uh played the drums as well in church.
18:11
SPEAKER_06: I did that for a couple of years when I was a kid.
18:13
SPEAKER_06: Um so again, I had uh this creative spark to me and uh it kind of left me as I started to pursue academics and put it away for a long time.
18:25
SPEAKER_06: And when I during the pandemic uh in 2020, I had some time to kind of think about life.
18:32
SPEAKER_06: I think everybody did at that point.
18:35
SPEAKER_06: And um I just started watching some YouTube videos about photography and purchased uh Canon Rebel T7i on Facebook Marketplace.
18:45
SPEAKER_06: It was my first camera uh and fell in love with it.
18:48
SPEAKER_06: I l again, it was the same kind of creative itch where I had an idea in my head and then I could actually create it, and that was in the form of photography and visuals and videography.
19:01
SPEAKER_00: Nice, that's awesome.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, creativity is is big because you can stick to academics for a while, but then you just want to be creative.
19:08
SPEAKER_00: Like I find myself, yeah, I find myself at work, it's very monotonous doing the same thing over and over, and I have like a journal and I'll just draw stuff, just doodle, you know what I mean, to get that out.
19:18
SPEAKER_00: You gotta get it out somehow.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I like that.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Do you find like whenever you're being creative, do you do you intertwine the two, like academics?
19:26
SPEAKER_00: Because you're you're a dietitian, but do you is there some way that you intertwine that, I guess, in your in your practice?
19:32
SPEAKER_06: Oh absolutely, yeah.
19:33
SPEAKER_06: I'm glad you brought that up because now that you mention it, um, first of all, real quick, I used to doodle in church all the time and get in trouble free.
19:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
19:42
SPEAKER_06: Um but so basically, every time I would look at some sort of uh handout, um, maybe it was for work and it was already created by the company.
19:56
SPEAKER_06: Um maybe it was patient education about nutrition or foods or something like that.
20:01
SPEAKER_06: I would look at it and be like, I could do it better.
20:04
SPEAKER_06: And so I would create my own handouts, my own content, my own ways of thinking because I just felt, and it wasn't more of like I'm better than everyone else, it's more of I want to put my spin on it.
20:17
SPEAKER_06: And I feel that it's gonna be able to resonate with that patient or client even better.
20:22
SPEAKER_06: And so maybe that that's where the creative side comes into things is where I come into some situation and I ask myself, how can I make it better?
20:32
SPEAKER_06: And not because I have to fix things, it's mainly because I just enjoy the process right of making something better.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: And so I think that's where do you get that a lot where people are like uh they they think that, oh, he thinks he's better than everybody.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess we get that in our culture, don't we?
20:47
SPEAKER_00: Sure, yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: Some people are like, oh, he thinks he's better because he's got a degree or he's doing that.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Do you get that?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Do you feel like you get that from people?
20:55
SPEAKER_06: Uh I have, uh in especially in a management position.
20:59
SPEAKER_06: Uh, but again, it's I I don't know if it was a management position itself.
21:04
SPEAKER_06: Um maybe uh the fact that I needed to learn more how to conversate peer-to-peer versus just how I normally conversate.
21:13
SPEAKER_06: And these were things that all my general manager taught me as well when I was in a first-time management position, which I welcome.
21:20
SPEAKER_06: Um, so uh from time to time, yes, but then also I I'm careful not to be so hard on myself when people give me that feedback because they might be uh just projecting, projecting their own insecurities and projecting their own, you know, uh dissatisfaction with their own lives, and I just feel for them rather than get upset with them.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right on.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: I I get that too sometimes.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: I I guess because I've hyper focused on stuff and I just want to do the best that I can at it.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: And some I get that from people like I'm just like, dude, I this is just how I do it.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
21:52
SPEAKER_00: I hyper focus on stuff and I get uh good at it, and and I can see how some people can get insecure and be like.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Even feel like risk of them losing their job or something because you're doing it better than them, you know?
22:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, lots of that, yes.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh speech check says uh that's just insecurity uh on on YouTube.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, for sure.
22:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: So you got your creative, your creative uh outlet going on the side, uh, and you just recently got out of debt, right?
22:19
SPEAKER_06: I did, but then I jumped right back in.
22:21
SPEAKER_06: Oh, wow.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: How'd you do that?
22:22
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
22:23
SPEAKER_06: I'll tell you why.
22:25
SPEAKER_06: Um, so when you saw that post uh maybe almost a year ago, uh I was very excited, right?
22:31
SPEAKER_06: I worked my butt off to get toward that point.
22:34
SPEAKER_06: But I'm not gonna lie, as soon as like not even two days, I was like, this is boring.
22:41
SPEAKER_06: And I'm like, there's nothing to work to strive towards.
22:45
SPEAKER_06: And obviously, I'm just being silly there.
22:48
SPEAKER_06: Obviously, investments and all that stuff, right?
22:50
SPEAKER_06: Um, but I guess maybe the conditioning over the years is like, well, this is so it feels so unnatural.
22:57
SPEAKER_06: So let me just jump right back in the the debt pool.
23:00
SPEAKER_06: Uh literally, right?
23:02
SPEAKER_06: And uh I did, you know, it's just at the time I was still enjoying my life, you know.
23:07
SPEAKER_06: Uh I went and bought a Corvette C8, you know, just everything that I I've actually had never done when I was like 21 to like 28.
23:18
SPEAKER_06: Right.
23:19
SPEAKER_06: So my my you know, the 20s where you're just like buying your your favorite sports car and you're just spending all your money on your clothes, that happened to me like two years ago.
23:29
SPEAKER_06: So it was just the timing and the phase of my life, and I don't give myself a hard time for it, but at the same time, you know, I learned a lot though during that time where I was able to pay off all my debt.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what's some so what are some of the things you learned in that case?
23:43
SPEAKER_06: Um, the biggest thing would be make more money.
23:47
SPEAKER_06: And that as as much as it sucks to hear that, um, that will always override everything.
23:54
SPEAKER_06: Now we can get into the, you know, we can get into okay, you gotta save, which I agree a hundred percent.
24:00
SPEAKER_06: But then again, it's like, well, why don't you just that that's like a band-aid, right?
24:05
SPEAKER_06: Saving.
24:05
SPEAKER_06: Because the ultimate route is okay, if you prefer this type of lifestyle because your spending is always high, right?
24:12
SPEAKER_06: Then find a way to compensate that by making a little bit more money.
24:16
SPEAKER_00: Nice, nice.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: So so is that so is that another reason why the side hustle, or yes, I think it's gonna be another reason.
24:24
SPEAKER_06: Because I enjoy I enjoy a certain lifestyle.
24:26
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
24:26
SPEAKER_06: Um, and I I'm just like, well, then what needs to be done?
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Right on, right on.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so when so you and you just recently got engaged, is that one of the topics that y'all would talk about talk about?
24:37
SPEAKER_00: I guess finances when you're looking for a partner or whatever?
24:41
SPEAKER_00: Is that one of the things y'all talk about?
24:42
SPEAKER_06: So uh previous to um the angel that was sent from heaven, my fiance um you better say that.
24:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I mean it.
24:52
SPEAKER_06: And so shout out to my fiance and uh um our expecting our little baby.
24:58
SPEAKER_06: It's it's gonna be a baby girl we found out just recently.
25:00
SPEAKER_06: Congrats.
25:01
SPEAKER_06: Um, thank you.
25:02
SPEAKER_06: And so, anyways, uh with her, yes, absolutely.
25:05
SPEAKER_06: And that's how that's what even kind of made a stronger case for me to say this is the one.
25:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because she was already um having those types of serious conversations.
25:15
SPEAKER_06: And to most people, especially in the modern dating world, it's a turnoff, right?
25:20
SPEAKER_06: Like, why are you talking about that?
25:21
SPEAKER_06: You know, like we're just trying to have a good time, right?
25:23
SPEAKER_06: But to me, it was attractive as hell.
25:25
SPEAKER_06: I was like, Yes, let's talk about family values, beliefs, finances.
25:31
SPEAKER_06: Because in the end, you're trying to set yourself up for the rest of your life with someone that's in front of you.
25:36
SPEAKER_06: And so um, I think that was a great, yeah.
25:39
SPEAKER_06: We did, in fact, talk about all those things.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you said, not a lot of people think towards that.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and we were talking about earlier, too, that, or even she was mentioning that you know, that's the number one problem, number one reason reason why marriages fight.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: Yes, is finances.
25:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, she's been in the finance industry for about up towards the seven years, and so that's all she would see when she would see couples and uh just people come in and their stories, and so she learned a lot being in the industry and being a loan officer.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, for sure.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've been trying to get because uh I I'd follow the Dave Ramsey plan, right?
26:16
SPEAKER_00: And then I of course I get out of debt and I'm trying not to go back into debt, but there's the argument, oh, you need a credit score to get a house, right?
26:22
SPEAKER_06: Sure.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: So I'm trying to get some loan officers on here that do manual underwriting.
26:26
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if it's possible because some people were like, it's not possible, you need your credit score or whatever.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: But I just want to get some loan officers to be like, yes, it is possible.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
26:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I and I think it's some loan officers don't want to do the work, maybe maybe.
26:39
SPEAKER_06: I wouldn't know, but I'm pretty sure Sierra, my fiance could direct us in the right direction.
26:44
SPEAKER_06: So that's cool.
26:45
SPEAKER_06: Get ready, babe.
26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: We might have you on next.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
26:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, so okay, so we got the creative thing out of the way.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: You got you're doing that, and you you mentioned you wanted to, or you've been um getting into the barber industry.
26:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: Why why so?
27:01
SPEAKER_00: Why why that industry?
27:03
SPEAKER_06: Um, I think uh well the the funny thing, the irony of all this is that I'm losing hair.
27:11
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, exactly.
27:14
SPEAKER_06: So it's the eighth so we're getting older now.
27:17
SPEAKER_06: Um, but yeah, for the outside of just you know having hair to be proud about, it was just more the fact that I met some really, really interesting people within the barber industry in the last year, year and a half.
27:30
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
27:31
SPEAKER_06: And so just by default, just by the mere connection um to those individuals, and I'll name one of them right now.
27:38
SPEAKER_06: His name is Manuel Garcia, um, who has made an impact on my life and you know, uh just the things that he's uh shared with me about his life and his growth and where he wants to go.
27:50
SPEAKER_06: Um basically he's the owner of a uh barber um studio, a barber shop.
27:54
SPEAKER_06: It's called uh first class barber studio.
27:56
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so shout out to them, shout out to me uh Manny and all his team there.
28:00
SPEAKER_06: Um, but that was really the kind of the entry point for me in terms of focusing my media uh with barbers.
28:08
SPEAKER_06: Right now, I will say really quickly um that I I it's not just exclusively barbers, like I still will take on a variety of different projects.
28:16
SPEAKER_06: Right.
28:17
SPEAKER_06: This is a plug for myself, by the way.
28:18
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
28:18
SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, weddings, uh, you know, just uh any type of uh project I'll still take on.
28:24
SPEAKER_06: But it this is kind of a like a I'm personally interested in.
28:28
SPEAKER_06: And um the main part of this pursuing the barber industry is because I feel like barbers are very, very interesting themselves.
28:37
SPEAKER_06: You know, the the fact that they've chosen to pursue this path of you know cutting hair and everything that surrounds that and all the stories that they have on how they got into cutting hair has been pretty interesting to me, at least personally.
28:52
SPEAKER_06: And so when I started to uh talk to barbers and figure out, put them on a camera and and uh just ask them, hey, share your story.
29:02
SPEAKER_06: Um, I I think I want to hear more, and that keeps leading me on to meeting more interesting uh individuals who who cut hair for a living.
29:09
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, definitely.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to that community, man.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: There's it's there's obviously a lot of content around there.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: I look on TikTok and like some of my it's the like the for you page barbers, they just show up.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Like, man, there's an industry going on this.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, definitely, man.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: And they hear stories from their clients too, you know.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
29:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's some of them are even like uh like their like therapists, I want to say, like, quote unquote, because they're like counseling them or whatever, you know, just it depending that they want to take that route.
29:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and I think it's uh uh and any any person in the service industry, right?
29:44
SPEAKER_06: Whether it's a hairstylist, whether it's a barber, whether it's a personal trainer, whether it's a therapist.
29:48
SPEAKER_06: I mean, these are all individuals who are you know providing that service and uh with to humans, and they're getting to have that conversation, that dialogue with them, and you we're all finding out that each one of us are very interesting people out here.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's an interesting word that you mentioned, service.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of us are in service.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, do you like well that so the people like in your dietitian, do you call it a practice?
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Or do you call it a um yeah, you can call it a practice.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: So in your dietitian, so in your field, um, the people that you treat, do you treat you call it treat?
30:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you say.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: The people that you talk to, are they your clo like do they come to you or are they like suggested to you?
30:31
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
30:32
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, so I actually work at a dialysis center.
30:34
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
30:35
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
30:35
SPEAKER_06: So it's basically uh the company's called Davida, and um it's essentially a center where patients come to get um their kidneys filtered uh because their kill kidneys no longer work.
30:47
SPEAKER_06: Oh and they uh most patients will attend the dialysis center three times a week, every week for the rest of their lives.
30:56
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
30:56
SPEAKER_06: Um and unless they're able to have the fortunate opportunity to get a kidney transplant, uh whether that's through a live donor or through um you know someone who uh you know they have inventory of kidneys, basically.
31:12
SPEAKER_06: And so um essentially I'm there you know Monday through Friday, and I work with these you know patients on a daily basis.
31:20
SPEAKER_06: So I I see them every day, basically.
31:23
SPEAKER_06: And um in that situation or in that context, um essentially building rapport with them, you know, indefinitely.
31:30
SPEAKER_06: Um and I have conversations with them, you know, I learn about them and their families and their beliefs and their values, and and um it's a perfect conversation to have, is that I believe that's the best approach when it comes to providing some type of service or some type of plan, whether it's a nutrition plan or exercise plan, uh is first uh just uh seeing them as just another person and having a regular conversation instead of saying you need to, you must, you have to eat this way and these foods, they're gonna tune you out so quick because in uh reality uh humans don't like to be told what to do.
32:13
SPEAKER_06: And uh in the space of nutrition, since I've been doing this for a long time now, we often think we like to be told what to do.
32:20
SPEAKER_06: Just give me a diet plan so I can follow it.
32:24
SPEAKER_06: But deep down inside, uh you don't want me telling you to eat a chicken breast and asparagus at three o'clock, you know, as your fourth meal.
32:32
SPEAKER_06: You really don't.
32:33
SPEAKER_06: You think you do, but you don't.
32:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
32:35
SPEAKER_06: You want me to help you build the skills necessary to manage your meals across time because we're the average person who lives to be around 82 years old is going to eat approximately 89,642 meals in their lifetime.
32:53
SPEAKER_06: That's a that's the biggest meal plan I would ever have to put together for somebody.
32:59
SPEAKER_06: So my point is, is I'll use the old adage, which is um, you know, instead of giving a man a fish, you're gonna teach him how to fish so he can fish for the rest of his life and provide for himself and his family.
33:12
SPEAKER_06: And that's essentially the core of what my how I like to approach food eating in someone's body is let me let me help you, let me teach you the skills necessary rather than just tell you.
33:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: So you get to the it seems like you get to the root of the problem.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: Actually, to talk to the person, see what and you mentioned too in the podcast, like you see what they're going through.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: There's there's a deeper issue for some for a lot of them too.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Is there a a common issue that you find among your your patients or your clients?
33:43
SPEAKER_06: Um uh in in what context?
33:46
SPEAKER_06: Like um I guess uh the common problem that most people have.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like um, I guess because you get a lot of Hispanics, I imagine.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: Right?
33:56
SPEAKER_00: And a lot of us are diabetic, obese.
34:00
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
34:00
SPEAKER_00: So when you get to know them, do you like figure out like, oh, this is why they're like that?
34:06
SPEAKER_00: Because I remember growing up and my uh aunts and uncles are like, you gotta eat all your food.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
34:14
SPEAKER_00: That that's one thing.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: So is that like something like that?
34:16
SPEAKER_00: No, that's those types of things that that you see common in your Yeah.
34:20
SPEAKER_06: So that would be under the aspect of culture, okay, as you just mentioned.
34:24
SPEAKER_06: Yes, and so uh we know that culture plays a huge role in terms of uh why we do the things that we do, uh, whether it's food to traditions to um, you know, the things that we choose to consume, whether it's television, it everything basically culture drives all of the all of those behaviors and those that decision making.
34:47
SPEAKER_06: Right.
34:47
SPEAKER_06: So, me as a practitioner, as a clinician, I just I take note of that.
34:53
SPEAKER_06: That's it.
34:53
SPEAKER_06: I don't really speak upon it uh because at the end of the day, um, I want to encourage or empower them rather than say I'm gonna take your culture away.
35:03
SPEAKER_06: And I never want to do that, at least my approach.
35:06
SPEAKER_06: There's others who out there say they'll slap them on the hand and say, put that tortilla down for the rest of your life.
35:11
SPEAKER_06: I I don't that's not my approach and never will be.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: So there's so our dietitians that do do that type of stuff.
35:17
SPEAKER_06: Correct, yes.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, so you're trying to avoid that.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: So how do you so in deal in talking in terms of service, how do you find yourself dealing with uh not dealing with, but approaching people that I guess once you get to that point where you do try to tell them about nutrition or whatever, and they decide still not to do it, how do you how do you keep an a what type of attitude do you keep in terms of service?
35:42
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
35:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
35:44
SPEAKER_06: Um I let them continue doing it because it's not a matter of me wanting for them, it's a matter of them wanting it for themselves.
35:56
SPEAKER_06: Now, I will always be here as a soundboard, as a uh person uh who can provide resources, but I learned that early um probably in the middle of my career so far, because early on I was that dietitian.
36:10
SPEAKER_06: I was like, no, like this is good for you, and you need to listen to me.
36:14
SPEAKER_06: And you know, um it doesn't matter how you feel, or this or that, and it got me nowhere.
36:20
SPEAKER_06: I I never saw those people again.
36:22
SPEAKER_06: They went back to their the their ways of managing their life, and uh it didn't get nowhere.
36:28
SPEAKER_06: Um, but rather I started to learn a little bit more about human behavior, um psychology, um, cognitive behavior therapy, and that kind of opened my eyes to be more of an understanding dietitian, uh, someone who's really listening to a person rather than just ready to talk over them.
36:49
SPEAKER_06: And we learned this.
36:50
SPEAKER_06: Uh, we we were actually taught this uh in our uh in dietitian um in the dietitian field.
36:56
SPEAKER_06: It's called motivational interviewing.
36:59
SPEAKER_06: You can look it up, and there's lots of books and courses and programs on this, but essentially it it it teaches dietitians to speak less, let the client be at the forefront of their therapy, and we're just merely there to guide them and be a resource to them.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: I love that, and that's awesome.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: It's a totally different approach.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: I suggest you do this, you do that.
37:20
SPEAKER_06: Oh, absolutely.
37:21
SPEAKER_06: Because people, yeah, that's the old school way, yeah.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Of course, and people and and old school way too.
37:26
SPEAKER_00: If you don't do it, this is what's gonna happen.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
37:29
SPEAKER_00: People are feared, we're feared into it, but it's more like no, this you gotta actually think about this and and actually make a change.
37:36
SPEAKER_00: So you have seen some results in in the way in the change in how you approach it.
37:40
SPEAKER_06: Yes, absolutely.
37:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because we we get to the root of the problem, or at least we get close to it.
37:47
SPEAKER_06: Um, a lot of times, uh, for example, I had this um consulting patient who came to me, he was a refinery work a refinery worker.
37:56
SPEAKER_06: And uh the reason he came to me was the initial scare.
37:59
SPEAKER_06: His doctor told him that he had elevated A1C, which for those who don't know, uh A1C is basically a three-month average of your blood sugars.
38:08
SPEAKER_06: Well, and if that A1C is a certain number, usually doctors like to see it less than a 6.5.
38:14
SPEAKER_06: Um, and if it's around a seven or higher, then they kind of with other parameters they'll diagnose you as someone who has diabetes.
38:23
SPEAKER_06: So he was scared.
38:24
SPEAKER_06: So he had an emotion, right?
38:26
SPEAKER_06: And he comes to me and he says, Hey, tell me what to eat.
38:30
SPEAKER_06: I want to avoid having full-blown diabetes.
38:33
SPEAKER_06: I have kids, I have a family, um, just please tell me what to eat.
38:38
SPEAKER_06: And of course, I see where he's coming from.
38:41
SPEAKER_06: I I and I know he wants me to tell him to eat so he avoid what to eat, so he avoids these consequences that the doctor told him.
38:51
SPEAKER_06: And I could easily just type up a meal plan and give it to him, and he can go follow it.
38:58
SPEAKER_06: But I've seen this over and over again.
39:00
SPEAKER_06: He'll do it for two weeks, but then the fear will decline and he'll forget about it, and life hits him again, and he goes back to the ways that he was before, and we got nowhere, and it probably got worse.
39:15
SPEAKER_06: So I learned that over time, and I and I and that's the easy way, easy way out, too.
39:20
SPEAKER_06: I can uh Google something, print it out.
39:22
SPEAKER_06: Here you go, bro.
39:23
SPEAKER_06: Uh 150 bucks.
39:25
SPEAKER_06: Done within 30 minutes.
39:27
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
39:28
SPEAKER_06: But I already know, and uh, I guess that's where my ethics come in to some degree.
39:33
SPEAKER_06: I'm not perfect either, but um, I I'll spend some time with him.
39:37
SPEAKER_06: I say, hey, look, you know, and if I need to charge, you know, more because he's gonna stay with me longer, and I let them know from the outset, then I'm gonna do that too.
39:45
SPEAKER_06: So we both win in the end, right?
39:47
SPEAKER_06: You know, he's paying for my service and my time, and I'm gonna provide him with high quality service as well in return.
39:52
SPEAKER_06: Nice.
39:53
SPEAKER_06: Um, so, anyways, he was concerned.
39:55
SPEAKER_06: So the first thing I said was, how's your activity level?
40:00
SPEAKER_06: Um, because in the end, activity will actually give a lot of people more room for error when it comes to their food choices.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
40:09
SPEAKER_06: And I think that's not spoken enough about and positioned in that way, right?
40:16
SPEAKER_06: And so it does not mean a lot of people will hear this message and they'll think, oh, well, I guess I could just exercise and then eat Taco Bell and McDonald's and Skittles for the rest of my life.
40:27
SPEAKER_06: And the person is joking, I get it.
40:30
SPEAKER_06: Uh, and that's okay.
40:31
SPEAKER_00: Maybe if you're an athlete.
40:33
SPEAKER_06: Yes, uh, maybe if you're uh DJ Metcalf from the Seattle Seahawks, his diet is crazy.
40:37
SPEAKER_06: Look it up.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of Marshawn Lynch, how's he?
40:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
40:42
SPEAKER_06: Well, and there's something to it.
40:44
SPEAKER_06: So actually, you know, whenever I get into conversations, because I love uh conversations, topics about food nutrition, I could talk about it all day, every day.
40:53
SPEAKER_06: And think about professional athletes and specifically offensive linemen from the NFL.
41:02
SPEAKER_06: Those guys are huge, they're huge, right?
41:04
SPEAKER_06: They're six foot five, six foot seven, six foot two, they're over 300 pounds.
41:10
SPEAKER_06: But why don't they have diabetes?
41:13
SPEAKER_06: Why don't they have cardiovascular?
41:14
SPEAKER_06: That is interesting.
41:15
SPEAKER_06: Here's why their activity level the fact that they are constantly moving and exercising, their body is utilizing all of that food that is coming in regardless of the quality, whether it's McDonald's or Skittles or fish or asparagus, it's all gonna utilize that and put it in the right places.
41:38
SPEAKER_06: We talked about uh, well, I talked about this, right?
41:41
SPEAKER_06: And it isn't up until those offensive linemen or athletes retire, then they start seeing all those diseases, right?
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Because they stopped the activity.
41:53
SPEAKER_06: Yes, yes, and we could think about it uh in our own lives when we stopped high school, right?
41:58
SPEAKER_06: When we left high school or we left college, what happened?
42:02
SPEAKER_06: The freshman 15, right?
42:04
SPEAKER_06: We gained all the pounds after high school.
42:06
SPEAKER_06: You have your high school reunion, you're like, bro, what happened?
42:10
SPEAKER_06: And it's the same idea, right?
42:12
SPEAKER_06: Our activity levels have declined so much, you know, once we enter adulthood and we have all these responsibilities, and even more so now with the stress of the economy.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: Stress of the economy, bro.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: So so is it hard?
42:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's hard to buy food, you're saying uh in that regard?
42:29
SPEAKER_06: Well, I would say it's it's hard to pursue more leisure-like activities, okay, like walking, like exercising, like because we're so focused on trying to make money to pay for our food, right?
42:41
SPEAKER_06: To your point, and to just support our family.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
42:45
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, yeah, activity.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's awesome.
42:48
SPEAKER_00: So when a person so I guess the I guess diet comes in if you have less activity as opposed to those football players or whatever, you still do a little bit of activity, but you you can eat bad, but not all the time.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: So that's where a good diet comes in.
43:02
SPEAKER_06: Uh it can, and and I take issue with the terminology of good diet, bad diet.
43:07
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
43:08
SPEAKER_06: Um, only because it kind of trains or conditions people to again remember how many meals we're gonna have, uh, the average person?
43:16
SPEAKER_06: Right.
43:16
SPEAKER_06: 89,000.
43:18
SPEAKER_06: Oh, sure.
43:18
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
43:19
SPEAKER_06: 600 meals.
43:20
SPEAKER_06: And this is if the the standard person lives to 82 years old, they're having three meals a day, that's how many meals they're gonna have.
43:26
SPEAKER_06: Almost 90,000 meals, okay, right?
43:28
SPEAKER_06: Their entire lifespan.
43:29
SPEAKER_06: And so here's here's why this is important and why I believe it's important is because ever all those entire 90,000 meals that you're gonna have your entire life, you're about to have the most uh anxious and disturbing and um regretful experience 90,000 times because you were taught that you only need to eat clean.
43:53
SPEAKER_06: You were taught that those there are bad foods and good foods.
43:57
SPEAKER_06: And every time you sit down to enjoy quote unquote.
44:00
SPEAKER_06: Bad food, you're gonna have a negative experience.
44:02
SPEAKER_06: You're gonna have a negative outlook about yourself, about the way you look.
44:07
SPEAKER_06: And so I don't I don't agree with having this idea of good and bad foods.
44:11
SPEAKER_06: The position that I take, because then people are gonna say, Well, Josh, then what is good food?
44:16
SPEAKER_06: What is bad food?
44:17
SPEAKER_06: Yes, help us.
44:18
SPEAKER_06: And I say, You made it this far.
44:22
SPEAKER_06: Right?
44:23
SPEAKER_06: You made it this far eating the meals that you've enjoyed and the quantities that you have enjoyed, and you're not dead, you're still alive.
44:31
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
44:32
SPEAKER_06: So all we need to do now is take a look, pause for a second, and start paying attention.
44:38
SPEAKER_06: Start paying attention now closely to what is down at your plate.
44:43
SPEAKER_06: And not in a judgmental way, not me or nor you.
44:48
SPEAKER_06: What's going on here?
44:49
SPEAKER_06: Am I having, you know, the second portion?
44:52
SPEAKER_06: You know, am I having a calorie beverage versus a non-calorie beverage or just water?
44:58
SPEAKER_06: Am I having that snack at 11 p.m.?
45:01
SPEAKER_06: Start to just pause for a second and pay attention to what you're actually doing.
45:06
SPEAKER_06: And the a great way I like to describe this is we walk in rooms every day, right?
45:13
SPEAKER_06: Various different rooms.
45:14
SPEAKER_06: We just walked into a room today.
45:16
SPEAKER_06: And we do this mindlessly.
45:20
SPEAKER_06: We walk into our work, which is a room, we walk into our home, which is a room.
45:25
SPEAKER_06: We don't think about it.
45:26
SPEAKER_06: We don't think about what's in the room, we don't think about the smells of the room, we don't think anything.
45:30
SPEAKER_06: We just walk into rooms, okay?
45:32
SPEAKER_06: So now what if I placed you in an escape room?
45:36
SPEAKER_06: That room becomes your dungeon.
45:39
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
45:39
SPEAKER_06: Now you're so curious about the room, right?
45:42
SPEAKER_06: You're looking at every detail, every crevice, because you're trying to find clues and keys to get the hell out of the escape room.
45:49
SPEAKER_06: Have you ever been in an escape room before?
45:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I don't think so.
45:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they have something corpus.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: Seriously, wow.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: No kidding.
45:55
SPEAKER_06: And they're theme-based too.
45:57
SPEAKER_06: So it could be like uh pirate or Caribbean theme, and you have to open these chests and figure out these things.
46:03
SPEAKER_06: Like a quest, like a quest trying to get out.
46:05
SPEAKER_06: Okay, okay.
46:06
SPEAKER_06: So the example I just gave is that we mindlessly enter rooms all day, but as soon as I put you in the right context and tell you you have to find clues in order to escape this room, this room becomes a vast and interesting adventure.
46:19
SPEAKER_06: It's the same thing with food and how humans eat.
46:22
SPEAKER_06: Every day we are mindlessly eating meals because we have to.
46:25
SPEAKER_06: It's a conditional need.
46:26
SPEAKER_06: Right.
46:27
SPEAKER_06: If we don't eat, we die.
46:28
SPEAKER_06: We're eating in various quantities, we're eating some plant foods, we're eating some animal foods, we're eating large meals, we're eating smaller meals, we're eating very high calorie meals, we're very low calorie meals, we're drinking this, we're drinking that.
46:41
SPEAKER_06: All just we're just getting it done.
46:43
SPEAKER_06: We're getting the job done.
46:44
SPEAKER_06: We're getting the job done right.
46:45
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
46:46
SPEAKER_06: But it isn't until I come in the picture and I help a client or patient, I say, hey, look, let's pay attention.
46:51
SPEAKER_06: That's it.
46:52
SPEAKER_06: They call it an observer effect.
46:54
SPEAKER_06: So now the fact that you're paying attention, guess what happens?
46:57
SPEAKER_06: Behavior changes happen instantaneously.
47:01
SPEAKER_06: Because now you're gonna go look at your dinner tonight and you're gonna be like, What am I eating?
47:05
SPEAKER_00: What's in here?
47:06
SPEAKER_06: And not necessarily the point of like there's something toxic in there.
47:09
SPEAKER_06: I don't believe that either.
47:11
SPEAKER_06: It's more of did I come to my meal hungry?
47:15
SPEAKER_06: Am I enjoying what I'm eating?
47:17
SPEAKER_06: And did I leave comfortably?
47:20
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
47:21
SPEAKER_06: It's more of those kind of ponderings than is this healthy?
47:25
SPEAKER_06: Is this un no, not at all?
47:27
SPEAKER_06: It's more of just get curious with how you're eating versus I'm not, I'm not personally my approach, I'm not crazy about what people eat.
47:34
SPEAKER_06: I'm more concerned with and how to fix what, sorry, not what they're eating, but how they're eating.
47:41
SPEAKER_06: That's more of my concern.
47:42
SPEAKER_06: Chaotic and impulsive.
47:44
SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, their approach to their food and eating and their body.
47:48
SPEAKER_06: Though that's what I'm most concerned with because once someone solves how they fix how they're eating, usually the what they eat kind of resolves itself on its own.
47:59
SPEAKER_06: And I've learned a lot of these things from Dr.
48:00
SPEAKER_06: Cashey, and I want to make sure I give him credit.
48:02
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
48:03
SPEAKER_06: So shout out to him.
48:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
48:04
SPEAKER_06: Um, but I I really have uh implemented that in my practice and my approach, and I think it's a great tool, and it helps a lot of people uh in the long run.
48:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's awesome.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: Man, uh shout out to uh Garza on TikTok.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining, man.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, yeah, so you're mentioning this stuff.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: It's interesting to me because I'm thinking like, okay, we have to change our the way you're the way you're describing this, like I have to change my outlook on it because I've been hearing the food pyramid, you know what I mean, since I was a young kid.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: If there's a food pyramid or whatever, you you're supposed to eat this, supposed to eat greens, you can't eat this, you can't eat that.
48:40
SPEAKER_00: So we have to like undo that and just I guess get to the fundamental level of it.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Which and and before, like I guess back in the day, you what do we eat?
48:50
SPEAKER_00: We ate plants and fish and just the basic stuff, right?
48:54
SPEAKER_00: And and nowadays there's like a bunch of there's processed food everywhere.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
48:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, what are your thoughts on that?
49:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, so you're saying so I could eat processed food and it's still, I guess, don't look at it like good or bad.
49:07
SPEAKER_06: Correct.
49:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's gonna be very, very difficult for a list.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: It's weird to me.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, this is weird, you know.
49:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then thinking that too, I'm thinking, okay, because I I I I I do a full body workout with kettlebells once once a week at least.
49:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to I'm working, I'm working toward getting twice a week.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but um, but even at that, I'm like, okay, say say I was doing that, you know, five times a week or whatever.
49:34
SPEAKER_00: And and say if a person does eat bad or whatever, I do you have to look at, I don't know.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm still thinking at thinking of it at this mindset.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Like, do you have to look at it like calories, nutrients?
49:45
SPEAKER_06: Sure.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
49:46
SPEAKER_00: Do you do you get to that level?
49:48
SPEAKER_00: Does a person get to that level?
49:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, once they do start changing that.
49:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
49:51
SPEAKER_06: So I guess let's start with what it by me say sharing all this newfound information to you, what did it immediately do?
50:00
SPEAKER_00: Did it did it in a sense well tell me instead of me as well it made it made me like look at it from your kind of from your perspective, not so much like good and bad, but like actually look at it, like what's going on, like what are you actually doing?
50:16
SPEAKER_06: You know, did you feel less pressured?
50:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah yeah, yeah, because yes, and when if somebody is like telling me go and here, go and do this, because when I watch nutrition videos, that's it seems like they're doing like, oh, you have to do this, you have to do that.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: Don't eat donuts, don't eat pizza, eat this and that.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: But the way you're approaching it is like you know, think about it, you know, sit back, observe, like you're saying.
50:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's how it made me feel.
50:41
SPEAKER_06: Which is the point because um what we've uh basically created was individuals who are anxious, they feel guilty, um, they're stressed, all from something that is actually a conditional need to human existence, which is to eat food.
51:02
SPEAKER_06: And so we've basically destroyed the gratifying experience of food, and now we've turned it into this you must, you need to, you have to, or else you're gonna explode with cancer.
51:15
SPEAKER_06: You're gonna, you know, just develop diabetes tomorrow.
51:19
SPEAKER_06: And it was never the food, it was our behaviors that evolved through our environmental changes, uh, in terms of like urbanization, civilization.
51:31
SPEAKER_06: Um, and I will admit, yes, food companies as well, you know, creating these very, very tasty foods that are higher calorie, that are lower nutrient.
51:39
SPEAKER_06: Um, and as a result, we're now consuming more food, more calories, more energy, okay, and we're moving less.
51:49
SPEAKER_06: What does that set up set us up for?
51:51
SPEAKER_06: That sets us up for these diseases that we are talking about, which is type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, high blood pressure.
51:59
SPEAKER_06: And that is not a result of the actual food within it of itself, it's actually from the behaviors surrounding all everything.
52:07
SPEAKER_06: The intake the intake.
52:09
SPEAKER_06: Um, the um let me tell you this.
52:13
SPEAKER_06: So, one apple is about 80 calories on average, 80 calories, right?
52:18
SPEAKER_06: So, think of an apple, and you're eating an apple.
52:20
SPEAKER_06: You had to chew it, it has some water in it, there's fiber around the skin.
52:26
SPEAKER_06: Um you're you're having to work, right?
52:29
SPEAKER_06: Right.
52:30
SPEAKER_06: 80 calories.
52:32
SPEAKER_06: Now take a Reese's peanut butter cup, just one that's 110 calories.
52:39
SPEAKER_06: You don't have to work for it.
52:40
SPEAKER_06: It tasted amazing.
52:42
SPEAKER_06: There was no chewing involved, it was just melting in your mouth.
52:46
SPEAKER_06: So, what we have here now is we have food that is so high in calorie, and you want more of it, versus the plant foods, the whole foods that man, you have to work for it.
52:58
SPEAKER_06: If someone comes to me and they tell me, Josh, I'm hungry, I'm gonna say, eat an apple.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:02
SPEAKER_06: And I still hungry, eat a second apple.
53:04
SPEAKER_06: After the second apple, no one's really hungry, and they're their jaws hurting, they're tired of eating.
53:10
SPEAKER_06: So, and it's not again, it's not the individual foods themselves, it's the energy content contained within the food that eventually, if ate in excess for years with a combination of low physical activity, with a combination of poor sleep habits, and maybe not moderating drug and alcohol use.
53:32
SPEAKER_06: Well, yes, something bad is going to happen.
53:35
SPEAKER_06: But those are all things we can do.
53:37
SPEAKER_06: There's something we could do about it.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: Right, right, right.
53:39
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, man, my thought I turned my phone off here.
53:41
SPEAKER_06: No, you're good.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, no, definitely.
53:44
SPEAKER_00: Um uh yeah, that that's awesome what you're talking about.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, that's a definitely a lot to think about.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: It is, and it seems like um there's more consumption, there's more intake, we're eating more, there's stress eating, and I agree, like even like the food companies too, they want you to eat more because you pay more money.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yeah.
54:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, stuff like that.
54:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and even I was thinking about um we don't want to cook a meal, we'd rather eat it.
54:12
SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
54:13
SPEAKER_06: I look at H E B now, it's filled with chopped-up fruits and vegetables.
54:18
SPEAKER_06: And um and we talked about this with Roger on his podcast, Charge of the Line, of this idea of um uh whole foods being more expensive than fast food, but it's a convenience factor that has been included to where prices of fruits and vegetables have gone up.
54:38
SPEAKER_06: You still buy whole produce, it's relatively cheap still.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: Right.
54:43
SPEAKER_06: Granted, everything has gotten expensive, of course, yeah.
54:46
SPEAKER_06: But it's the chopped apples, it's the cut-up fruits, the cut up vegetables that have that margin that's super high.
54:54
SPEAKER_06: So, yes, that is expensive, but get your knife out, move your body a little bit more, yeah, cut up your vegetables, it's still cheaper.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: Even like cook it, cook your cook your lunch.
55:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
55:04
SPEAKER_00: I yeah, I remember we were when we got on the budget, we were doing lunches, so we had to make our lunch and stuff.
55:09
SPEAKER_00: And that that in itself would save was as money saver for us.
55:13
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, that's awesome.
55:14
SPEAKER_00: So you're real big into so talking, speaking of activity, uh, you're real big into walking.
55:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
55:20
SPEAKER_00: So what's the power, the power of walking in your eyes?
55:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so the the reason I like to frame it this way is because it's the easiest thing for anyone to do, right?
55:31
SPEAKER_06: Given that they have the ability to do so.
55:34
SPEAKER_06: And so it's easily accessible, you don't need anything, you just literally get up off of your chair and go for a walk.
55:40
SPEAKER_06: Now, some people will, my mother especially will say, Well, I don't live in a safe neighborhood.
55:45
SPEAKER_06: It's like, well, mother, I'm working on to get you out of that neighborhood.
55:48
SPEAKER_06: No.
55:49
SPEAKER_06: Um, but but yes, the reason I enjoy walking so much is because uh we do it every day, right?
55:56
SPEAKER_06: Whether you want to or not, you're gonna walk.
55:59
SPEAKER_06: And I love that idea, and it's such an empowering message because it's all I'm really trying to share with people is if you were to wear your fitness a fitness tracker or use your cell phone, there's a health app on your in your in most cell phones, and you'll see steps, and you'll see that you've accumulated a number of steps within any given day.
56:22
SPEAKER_06: And then you'll see that you can have you'll have an average of steps.
56:25
SPEAKER_06: And all I encourage is hey, try to be your best average.
56:31
SPEAKER_06: So, say if someone walked 3,000 steps on a Monday, try to get 3,500 on Tuesday.
56:38
SPEAKER_06: Any increase in activity, physical activity, is only going to be beneficial to your body, to your health, and how you even manage and direct food that you eat.
56:49
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: So, so along with being a dietitian, your the physical activity is part of that.
56:55
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely 100%.
56:57
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
56:57
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
56:59
SPEAKER_00: I was listening to Eric Franco's podcast.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he still has it, but you were saying that uh he was saying, like, yeah, I people would ask him about what to eat, and he's like, I don't know, I'm I I can show you how to do how to work out or whatever.
57:12
SPEAKER_00: But on your end, you're like, walking is good, and then also eating, you know what I mean, both sides of the of the story.
57:19
SPEAKER_00: So walking is huge, and it's like you said, you don't have to, you don't even have to have a membership anywhere, you don't have to have weights or nothing.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: So it's easy it's one of the easiest forms of activity.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
57:29
SPEAKER_06: Okay, and and make it yours, you know.
57:31
SPEAKER_06: Uh if you want to include it as a family activity, you know, if you want to um, you know, obviously walk your dog, you know, like there are many opportunities for you to take advantage of something so simple.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, so so how uh so a lot of us are glued to the phone all the time, and it's uh some of them some of us are glued to it like all day.
57:54
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
57:54
SPEAKER_00: Would you say that that that aspect has an effect on somebody being physically active?
58:01
SPEAKER_06: Uh yes, I I I would assume so.
58:04
SPEAKER_06: Uh mainly for the fact that most of the time we are scrolling on social media or just working, we're sitting down.
58:10
SPEAKER_06: Um and I've strived to incorporate this in my own life is anytime I catch myself um scrolling for longer than 10 minutes, mindlessly, that's the key point there.
58:24
SPEAKER_06: Um, I would prefer to get up and go for a walk while I'm doing that.
58:28
SPEAKER_00: Nice.
58:29
SPEAKER_00: So you mindlessly, what do you mean that's the key point?
58:31
SPEAKER_06: Uh well, it's because at a certain point you're gonna have to be sitting down to do actual your work or your obligations or ride or do this.
58:40
SPEAKER_00: Gotcha, you know, like waste kind of wasting time, I think.
58:42
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
58:43
SPEAKER_06: And that's kind of like the I guess the encouragement there is like, look, it when they say, Oh, I don't have time to exercise, well, there it is right in your face.
58:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, my good friend Dr.
58:57
SPEAKER_00: Gentry told me the best workout is the one you'll do.
59:00
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
59:01
SPEAKER_06: I agree with that 100%.
59:02
SPEAKER_00: Definitely wow.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so the power of walking snacks, that's one one topic we mentioned in the Instagram when we were messaging.
59:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, what's up with that?
59:10
SPEAKER_06: Okay, so what is a snack?
59:13
SPEAKER_06: It's a sexually attractive person.
59:17
SPEAKER_06: No, so the the actual definition of a snack, shout out to my fiance again.
59:23
SPEAKER_06: Uh she's a snack.
59:25
SPEAKER_06: But the actual definition of of a snack is a small amount of food in between meals, right?
59:32
SPEAKER_06: No shit.
59:34
SPEAKER_06: But it's usually categorized as something that's less than 200 calories, at least that's what's in textbooks and whatnot.
59:43
SPEAKER_06: Right?
59:44
SPEAKER_06: It's like what's logical explanation what a snack for what a and not only that, nowadays it's like where can you find a snack that's less than 200 calories?
59:53
SPEAKER_06: These snacks are ridiculous.
59:54
SPEAKER_06: You look on social media and Instagram now.
59:56
SPEAKER_06: Oh my god.
59:57
SPEAKER_00: An apple's not considered a snack, even though it is.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_06: So so yes, we'll start with some definitions.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_06: I love definitions.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_06: Um, but I guess if I had to share my thoughts or my ideas about snacks and snacking, is number one, it's not physiologically required.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_06: Meaning you're not gonna die if you don't have a snack.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_06: The body does not care for snacks, it does not need snacks.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_06: It's what humans enjoy.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_06: Snacks are great, snacks are gratifying, they're fun, they're they're in wonderful packages.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_06: Um, and so again, this is in my opinion and what I've seen, it's more uh of marketing than anything.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_06: And it's a way for us to spend a little bit more and to consume more.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_06: Now, they could care less whether companies they can could uh care less if we buy the snack and we eat it or not.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_06: All they care about is whether we purchased it or not.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_06: So that's where then I throw it back on the responsibility of us as an individual, as a consumer, is well, you still can have that, but let's manage it.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_06: Let's manage it.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_06: Now let's not over-consume these snacks.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_06: Interesting.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_06: And so most oftentimes I prefer that most people focus on meals rather than snacks.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_06: Because all that really snacks is gonna do is snacks also provide energy, calories.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_06: So all you're really doing is adding more calorie intake than necessary.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_06: That's the point of my whole idea about snacks.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_06: And so if you can create a little bit more filling, a little bit more gratifying meals, larger meals, there's no need for snacks.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_06: Now, if you want to enjoy it on a Sunday because you're with your family, 100% rock on, go for it.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_06: But then again, if we're having a conversation about managing your weight, managing preventing certain diseases, then yes, we're gonna look at snacking as a tool, as something that we could utilize when necessary, when it's appropriate.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_00: It's almost like a luxury just snacking.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_06: Pretty much.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's a great way to explain it.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because yeah, it's like a luxury, and we we do it stressfully too sometimes.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_00: I know I do, uh, but just having to snack.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_00: So you're so you're uh uh so meals that's the big thing.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_00: And is these is it like three meals a day, like we're always taught, or what do you think?
1:02:22
SPEAKER_06: Well, I like to say where I've I've adopted this, adopted this approach when it comes to having meals throughout a day is they call it a uh Dr.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_06: Cashey calls it a milestone method.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_06: So within a given day, you're gonna have several opportunities to ingest a meal.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_06: Okay, right?
1:02:44
SPEAKER_06: And that's different for everyone.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_06: And that's why I kind of say, hey, look, what's your schedule like?
1:02:51
SPEAKER_06: You wake up, you get ready for work, you go to work, you have a lunch or a designated meal break, you get out of work, you do some sort of activity, whether it's picking up your child from school or going to the gym or whatever the case may be, getting a haircut, and then you get home and then you go to bed.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_06: All those junction points are up feeding opportunities.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_06: And so now instead of me saying, Oh, you need to be eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner because that's what society has said, right?
1:03:18
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying all those opportunities that are closely pertaining to you and you alone, insert two to three meals.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_06: That's it.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_06: Nice.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_06: And you are a professional in your own life, you know your schedule because you you deal with it every single day.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_06: So I give that flexibility, that freedom to that person and say, insert the meals that you feel most confident that you could stick to, that you would like to stick to consistently.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_06: Because there is something to be said about meal timing and having the same meals around the same time from just more of a biological standpoint.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_06: So it'll help with digestion, using the restroom, going to sleep.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_06: Um, that that there is something to that to have your meal timing like on a on a clockwork basis.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_06: But I don't even like to use clocks.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_06: So you so for example, if I'm telling someone, I never tell someone you need to eat at 12 or you need at three.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_06: Again, it's I base it off the junction points to their life.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Person to person, person basis.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh so do you it do you pr do you suggest or advise activity first and then eat or for eat first and then activity, or how how did how how does that come about?
1:04:32
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, um, in the end, as boring of a response as it's going to be, it's it's the one that that you can actually implement and incorporate on a sus in a sustainable manner.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I gotcha.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_00: So you we have all this knowledge, we have all this stuff, but if you don't actually apply it, it's not gonna work.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, so that's cool.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_00: Gotcha.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_00: Helsing on Twitch, appreciate you, man.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_00: I love this conversation.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh just recently I've been considering my health personally.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh like like for years, I just stopped working out after high school and all that stuff.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_00: And then I have two kids, and then I got a wife.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, I want to go long.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_00: I want to live a little bit longer, and I know that being healthy, being more active.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_00: And and that that post that you put about it, can an obese person be healthy?
1:05:18
SPEAKER_00: I was like, wow, that's this is very interesting.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_00: Need to be more active and then take a look at my you know, my eating habits and stuff like that.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_00: So this is helpful for me.
1:05:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_06: And you're not alone because um I never want this idea to be out there that I'm this perfect, organic, clean eating person and uh exercising two a day's.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_06: Uh no, I'm far from that.
1:05:43
SPEAKER_06: I'm just like you, man.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_06: In fact, the last six months I've went from exercising regularly to almost next to nothing.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
1:05:53
SPEAKER_06: And uh that's for me to to to deal and uh to manage and to figure out on my own.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_06: And I don't give myself a hard time for it either, including myself.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_06: But I just look for opportunities and and discussion with my fiance now and how we want to incorporate that.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_06: So it's more uh it's almost like you're you're you're talking about finances.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_06: Uh think of it that way, and hopefully the audience can can hear this as well.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_06: Start having conversations with your significant other about physical activity as if it was finances.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_06: When are we gonna schedule time for this?
1:06:29
SPEAKER_06: Uh uh what activities do we enjoy?
1:06:32
SPEAKER_06: It doesn't have to be like um you're just dreading it.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_06: Like make it fun, make it something that you can be sus it could be sustainable.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_00: Right on.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_00: And then even to even to get to the point where it's like, okay, we're gonna die 100% chance.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know what I mean?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_00: Our kids are not gonna be with us, you know.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_00: Think about that too.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_00: And I think I don't know, we don't have a will, but I think we need to get one, you know what I mean, as far as and I think our our culture doesn't think about that at all either.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, barbecue plates sell when somebody dies and stuff like that.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_00: So we get into that.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, that's I appreciate you coming on the show.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_00: Is there anything else you want to show, share?
1:07:09
SPEAKER_06: Um, I I can go for another hour, but we'll save it for another time.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right on.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so I just want to make sure.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_00: So we talked about what is health, power walking snacks, good versus bad food, alcohol.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_00: A lot of people consume alcohol.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so what's that?
1:07:23
SPEAKER_00: Let's we could talk about that um before we take off, if you don't mind.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_06: Um, I guess my I let me tell you this.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_06: Everything I've shared today, I have biases, right?
1:07:34
SPEAKER_06: Um, biases are not bad, um, but we should be aware of them.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_06: And so my I guess my focus when I'm uh sharing information, I'm helping clients and patients alike is what are they doing?
1:07:50
SPEAKER_06: What are they currently doing?
1:07:51
SPEAKER_06: Bringing that awareness to them.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_06: What are they willing to do, and what can they manage across time?
1:07:57
SPEAKER_06: That's all my concern is.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_06: And so outside of that, I'm merely just sharing these this information, uh sharing being a resource to everyone, and they have every obligation and every um decision to make for themselves and the people that they love.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_06: So that's more of a disclaimer there.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, man, that's awesome.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, I guess we got we've all got biases.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_00: I try not to be biased on the on the podcast as well, you know, just have different types of people on.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_00: Try to stay neutral.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and sometimes I find myself, I really don't want that person.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_00: I don't really don't want to interview that sure.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_00: But then I'm like, I want to be biased, I want to be unbiased.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I hear you on that.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_00: Well, Joe Rogan's really good at that.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh man, for sure.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he he's one of the I I don't listen to him a lot, but he definitely his style of interviewing is is kind of what I find that I relate to.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I like talking to people.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_06: Well, I think what he does well is he's always curious.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_06: Yes, instead of getting a combative or reactive, he's just like, oh, that's interesting you think that way.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_06: Tell me more about that.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he makes it so easy for them to just talk and in G three hours.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_00: How do you do a podcast for three hours?
1:09:02
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:09:03
SPEAKER_06: So, so back to your question about alcohol, is that you're gonna have a variety of different organizations out there say their piece about alcohol.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_06: So, for example, the World Uh Health Organization, they say that no amount of alcohol is healthy and is just completely harmful.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_06: And then you're gonna have another organization or society say that if you're a man and you decide to drink in a given day, what's healthy is up to two drinks for a man.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_06: For a woman, it's up to one drink for a woman.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_06: Now, I've read this before, and most people think, oh, that's two drinks a day.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_06: But they didn't say that.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_06: They actually said if you choose to drink on any given day, it's up to one drink.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_06: So they're basically saying, we're not saying daily, don't start this as a new lifestyle.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_06: We're saying the day, any given day that you choose to drink, it's up to two.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_06: So party's over.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_06: And so I I take more of that approach is look, alcohol causes all sorts of problems.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_06: If that was never you, right on, man, keep it up.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_06: You don't need it.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_06: It's a toxic, it's a toxin to the body.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_06: But if someone uh just uh incorporates it and is able to manage it from a health standpoint, I just say stick to that rule, which is anytime you do decide to crack one open, man, just keep it very minimal.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_00: So you so since you're I I want I keep going.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_00: This is like the the I can keep going too.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_00: This is the Hispanic goodbye, like three or four or five times.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I love it.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_00: I love it, yeah.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we could do it a few more times.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, right.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_00: So so as a certified nationwide and through Texas, is there stuff that you can and cannot say?
1:11:00
SPEAKER_06: Um uh aside from any like legal stuff, right?
1:11:04
SPEAKER_06: No, no, I could pretty much provide everything under the sun in the scope of my practice.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's cool.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_00: I was thinking that, and then too, because I I I know your your upbringing is religious.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_00: Do you ever bring associate put that?
1:11:21
SPEAKER_00: I guess associate that not associate, but bring that into your practice, you know what I'm saying?
1:11:26
SPEAKER_06: Um not necessarily, but we are uh trained as dietitians to be culturally competent and culturally aware of others, of our clients and our patients for sure.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right on.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, did we talk about weight management?
1:11:43
SPEAKER_06: No, we didn't.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's talk about that.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_00: What's what's going on there?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_00: So, weight management, when I think of that as managing your weight, obviously.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_06: Yes, yeah.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_06: And so I guess this would be more of my approach.
1:11:54
SPEAKER_06: If someone comes to me or there's people in the audience who, Josh, how can I lose weight?
1:12:00
SPEAKER_06: How can I gain weight?
1:12:01
SPEAKER_06: How can I just manage my weight?
1:12:03
SPEAKER_06: I clumped that all under weight management.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_06: And again, you can also look at it if you'd like as finance, managing your finances, managing your relationship.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_06: When I present it that way, it's more of it takes that pressure or that negative connotation or attitude towards you're going on a diet.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_06: It's more like, no, we're just trying to manage like everything else we have going on in our life.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:12:29
SPEAKER_06: And so my typical approach for someone who's wanting to manage their weight is we start with you've made it this far.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:12:39
SPEAKER_06: Because there's all this pressure, all this pressure all the time.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_06: And people get to a certain weight for a variety of different reasons.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_06: Reasons that I couldn't sit here and just name if I was just meeting them.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:12:51
SPEAKER_06: Or list.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_06: And there, and there's no judgment to it.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_06: It's hey, we're here in this situation, and you you're aware about it, and you would like to make some changes, which is amazing.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_06: Amazing.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_06: So let's start with that.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_06: You made you made it this far.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_06: So great job.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_06: So what can we focus on first?
1:13:09
SPEAKER_06: And uh I like to focus, at least in my approach, is let's figure out what is enough for you.
1:13:18
SPEAKER_06: And what does that mean?
1:13:19
SPEAKER_06: Well, it's enough food for what you need in your desired direction.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_06: And there are somebody thinking, Well, how much is that?
1:13:28
SPEAKER_06: And I said, We're gonna learn.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_06: So up to this point, you've been eating again, a variety of different meals, a variety of different foods in the ways that you like.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_06: Um, and at various times.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_06: So now let's pay attention.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:13:44
SPEAKER_06: And so that's my first uh phase or my first level when I'm working with somebody.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_06: Is this this first five to seven days, this week one, we're just gonna pay attention.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_06: You're gonna start to again look down at what you're eating, not in a judgmental way, just curious.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_06: A curious way.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_06: Then you're gonna either write down, take a picture, put in your notes what you ate.
1:14:08
SPEAKER_06: And you're gonna report that back to me.
1:14:10
SPEAKER_06: And you're gonna talk about were you hungry before you arrived to that meal?
1:14:14
SPEAKER_06: Um, did you leave overly filled, feeling like you were gonna just explode, or did you feel did you leave satisfied and complete?
1:14:22
SPEAKER_06: Um, how often did you eat?
1:14:24
SPEAKER_06: What times were you eating?
1:14:26
SPEAKER_06: This is now a discovery.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_06: This is now uh day one of building your skills for a lifetime, right?
1:14:32
SPEAKER_06: And so we first try to figure out how much we were eating.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_06: Okay, and once we manage that, we can move on to level two.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_06: Level two is now patterns, eating patterns.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_06: And again, I'm adopting a lot of this stuff from Dr.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_06: Cashey because I truly believe in it, and I feel like it really sets somebody up to build the skills necessary for food eating in their body forever.
1:14:53
SPEAKER_06: And so the second one again is patterns.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_06: So, what does pattern mean?
1:14:57
SPEAKER_06: It's basically what we talked about earlier, those the any given day, your milestone and your junction points of how often or when are you eating?
1:15:07
SPEAKER_06: And when I say when, I don't mean time, like we talked about previously.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_06: I don't mean 12 o'clock, I don't mean eight o'clock, and that's what people think, right?
1:15:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_06: When I say time, I just mean was it before work or after work?
1:15:17
SPEAKER_06: Was it during your meal break?
1:15:18
SPEAKER_06: Was it after?
1:15:19
SPEAKER_06: Was it after you picked up your kids and y'all all ate that was dinner time for you?
1:15:24
SPEAKER_06: I don't care about if it was six, seven, or eight.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_06: Why?
1:15:26
SPEAKER_06: Because everyone has different dinner times.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_06: You might have six p.m.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_06: dinner, the next person over might have seven p.m.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_06: dinner.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_06: So there's no right dinner time from a clock standpoint, but there is when the family gets together to eat that last meal of the day.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:15:42
SPEAKER_06: That's dinner time for y'all.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_06: And so then we discover that and we try our best to strive for consistency within that pattern.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_06: Right?
1:15:52
SPEAKER_06: Can we well we've act we actually do already.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_06: We do a good job of our eating patterns.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_06: But if I identify in a patient or client that their meal patterns are chaotic, they're eating at this time and then that time, but the next day it's at a completely different time because obviously I have to use time to help with initially.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_06: Uh, but we notice it's chaotic, then we want to get a little bit more uh focused in on well, how can we set ourselves up to be a little bit more structured?
1:16:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_06: How can we have a little bit more structured feedings?
1:16:24
SPEAKER_00: So in dealing with weight management, having that structure helps.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_00: It helps, definitely.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_06: Yes, because again, what it helps with on a more sciencey way, it helps regulate your appetite.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_06: It helps help you, it helps you go to sleep at the end of the day.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_06: It has to do with a thing called circadian rhythms.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_06: Um so your body adapts to it?
1:16:43
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_06: Okay, to put it any other way, your body will adapt and adjust to it.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that's what you want in terms of meeting.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
1:16:51
SPEAKER_06: That's what you want because it's gonna help with a lot of other things as a side effect, like appetite, like um looking forward to your meal, getting hungry at certain times.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_06: Think about animals, dogs.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_06: They come to their meals, and I'm not saying that we need to turn into them or act like them.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
1:17:08
SPEAKER_06: But again, you came to me with a problem, and we're trying to solve it.
1:17:13
SPEAKER_06: So here are some tools or solutions.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_06: It doesn't mean that it's the right one, but we're gonna experiment.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_06: We're gonna experiment together, and you're gonna test it, and you're gonna come back to me, and we're gonna talk about it, and then we're gonna go back to the drawing board until we get it right.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_00: Nice, man, that's awesome.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, I've heard that too somewhere to keep a not like a schedule, but but like you're saying, uh set times that you do have meal plans.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_06: And we do that already.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_00: Yes, oh yeah, definitely.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_00: Especially like even in school, in the school system, breakfast, lunch, yeah, get home and eat.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_00: Esteban, appreciate you on YouTube.
1:17:44
SPEAKER_00: Hello, Corpus, he says.
1:17:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, so when I think of weight management too, I'm thinking of like like uh people not look not liking the way they look.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely, right?
1:17:55
SPEAKER_00: It's a perception like, man, I don't look what I I don't like the way I look.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
1:18:00
SPEAKER_00: That's where that's the base of where it starts.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh and not so we don't necessarily look at it like I need to lose weight for health.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:18:11
SPEAKER_00: Do you see that?
1:18:12
SPEAKER_00: Or I mean do you think there's a a discrepancy between those two?
1:18:15
SPEAKER_06: Or no, I see it more as it's still the same problem someone's trying to solve.
1:18:18
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:18:20
SPEAKER_06: And uh if it's actually interfering with them uh on a psychological level, I'll refer out.
1:18:25
SPEAKER_00: As far as like them not the way they look, or what do you mean?
1:18:29
SPEAKER_06: Uh causing harm to themselves, things of that nature.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, I I would send them to the psychologist or say, hey, you know, have you seen somebody?
1:18:36
SPEAKER_06: Things of that nature, just to put the disclaimer out there.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no, right on.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but but I I understand what you're saying, which is um, you know, usually it's to change your body composition or the way you look for health, or for just because you want to feel better, you want to have confidence, you want to look great at the beach.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_06: And again, those are the problem is still the same, the weight management, regardless.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_06: And the cool thing is that someone who comes to me who wants to look better at the beach, by default, they're still gonna improve their health, right?
1:19:07
SPEAKER_06: So I don't even need to talk about that.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_00: So in losing weight, you're you're improving your health, correct, essentially, which is what I guess to longevity, yeah, whatever, all those positive things from from health.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's awesome.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_00: Weight management.
1:19:21
SPEAKER_00: All right, cool.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_00: So I think we cover everything here.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh, what is health, the power of walking, snacks, good food, and bad food.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_00: We kind of touched on that.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: Touched about it briefly.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so the talk about it.
1:19:32
SPEAKER_00: So you don't like so you don't you don't like to call it good or bad, right?
1:19:36
SPEAKER_06: It sets people up for uh feelings of anxiety, guilt, pressure, uh, all unnecessary.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_00: And then they start feeling bad about themselves.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_06: Correct.
1:19:46
SPEAKER_06: Every time.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_06: Man, yeah.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_00: What man, that sucks.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that is.
1:19:50
SPEAKER_06: That does it's 90,000 times.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_06: It sucks.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, like I find myself doing that all the time.
1:19:56
SPEAKER_00: Like, man, I just had a freaking breakfast on a bun.
1:19:58
SPEAKER_00: Yep, you know what I mean?
1:19:59
SPEAKER_00: Or I just had a you know, two tacos.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and man, that's crazy.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_00: If we could flip that, correct, I think we would be a society be more happier.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't you think?
1:20:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, things are already tough, yeah.
1:20:12
SPEAKER_06: And that's the approach I I take as a dietitian.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_06: Things are already difficult.
1:20:15
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, why on earth, as a clinician or a dietitian, would I make things harder and more difficult for and frustrating for people?
1:20:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so I'm gonna break that cycle as a nutritionist and I'm gonna actually help people.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's cool, man.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like your attitude on that.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
1:20:31
SPEAKER_00: I I I I really like this interview, it's been helpful for me.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, awesome.
1:20:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, definitely.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for coming on.
1:20:37
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I guess we're coming to an end.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh, is there anything that you're working on currently that you want us to know about or you want to plug in?
1:20:43
SPEAKER_06: Sure.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_06: Um, I am currently working on a four-week course.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_06: I sound so cringe when I say that.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_00: A course just in itself.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_06: Yes, exactly.
1:20:54
SPEAKER_06: I try to figure out another word, but boot camp.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_06: There you go.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_06: Boot camp course, uh educational program.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_06: Uh but, anyways, uh, four lessons, if you will, to help people of uh manage their weight or whatever they would like in the realm of food eating in their body.
1:21:11
SPEAKER_06: Basically, this was kind of uh some certain things were kind of a tease or a preview to what I'm currently working on.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_06: And the idea, again, is to bring my approach that I've adopted and I've learned throughout the years uh across many uh individuals and professionals and packaging that and and putting a spin on it and helping people build the skills necessary for them to manage their food eating in their body.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_00: Right on, right on.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_06: So I'm working on that.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_06: Uh obviously, there'll be some there will be signs.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's that's definitely a uh like a hustle for especially for on time online content creators.
1:21:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh so I've and I see your posts on Instagram and stuff, I'm like, dude, this dude's he's actually out there trying to do it, you know what I mean?
1:21:59
SPEAKER_00: Do you so how do you find yourself doing that on social media like for like I guess marketing?
1:22:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what you call it.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_00: How do you find yourself doing that?
1:22:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh what do you mean like like just marketing your your your brand, I guess it's because it seems like that's what you're working on towards.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like you have a brand.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_06: You we could call it a personal brand, yeah.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:22:17
SPEAKER_00: So you're working toward that.
1:22:18
SPEAKER_00: That's pretty cool.
1:22:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was just wondering what you just getting your thoughts on that.
1:22:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because I have a brand as well, and I'm trying to figure stuff out too.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_00: And we're doing a really good job.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_00: And we mentioned AI earlier, you know what I mean?
1:22:29
SPEAKER_00: And I mentioned that in several other podcasts.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_00: It's something that I bring up.
1:22:32
SPEAKER_00: Uh some people have good thoughts, some people have bad thoughts about it, you know.
1:22:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I appreciate that, man.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks for coming on.
1:22:39
SPEAKER_00: So there's the the what are we on the third goodbye already?
1:22:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_00: All right, man.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, if nothing else, how do we find you online?
1:22:46
SPEAKER_00: What are your tags?
1:22:47
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so on Instagram, my personal account is going to be JJV.
1:22:52
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Jed I.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
1:22:54
SPEAKER_06: Are you into Star Wars?
1:22:55
SPEAKER_06: It's my middle name.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_06: Oh no, okay, okay, okay.
1:22:57
SPEAKER_06: So J Jed I V everywhere?
1:22:59
SPEAKER_06: Uh just for Instagram.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_00: For Instagram, okay.
1:23:02
SPEAKER_00: And you got a YouTube channel as well?
1:23:03
SPEAKER_06: Uh, YouTube channel I do with my fiance.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_06: We recently started that.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_06: Nice.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_06: Uh, it's JSV1.
1:23:09
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_00: You'll find them there, you guys.
1:23:11
SPEAKER_00: Appreciate y'all.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_00: Uh, if nothing else, man, we'll say goodbye.
1:23:14
SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you for having me.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_00: Yes, sir.
1:23:16
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1:23:17
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1:23:20
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1:23:30
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