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4/7/26: Trump Threatens Iranian Civilization, US Strikes Kharg Island, Trump Trashes US Allies · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 1: the Pound. It's great to see you, Ryan Man. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a while, our let some times it's a broad show,
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  Speaker 1: been too long. A lot has happened, a lot has happened,
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  Speaker 1: and of course we find ourselves on the precipice of
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  Speaker 1: potentially one of the most important days in modern history,
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  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump doubling down on his timeline. He gave
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  Speaker 1: a press conference at the White House yesterday. We watched
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  Speaker 1: all of it, so don't have to. We pulled some
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  Speaker 1: of the highlight low lights, whatever you want to call them,
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  Speaker 1: including the deadline for striking. We also have breaking news
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  Speaker 1: as of this morning the United States military conducting strikes
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  Speaker 1: all across carg Island. And Ryan, you have been on
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  Speaker 1: top of the case of some major energy infrastructure hits
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  Speaker 1: that happened in Saudi Arabia overnight, which the Western press
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  Speaker 1: is completely ignoring, but highly significant.
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  Speaker 3: So you're going to dig down into all of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's not good if you like the economy and
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  Speaker 4: having income, right, not good?
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  Speaker 1: All right, So that's that. And then we have Professor
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  Speaker 1: John Meiersheimer. He's going to stop by. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: tell us and obviously give us a reaction only through
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  Speaker 1: the Donald Trump press conference, but the deadline about what
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  Speaker 1: it would mean to wipe out energy power plans where
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  Speaker 1: America stands in the globe. Then Ryan and I have
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  Speaker 1: a very fun story for everybody. So yesterday Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: took to the podium and he announced that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be prosecuting whoever it is that leaked the
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  Speaker 1: story of a downed US airman. Ryan, you have now
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  Speaker 1: uncovered that it was actually in is really journalists, and
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  Speaker 1: it seems that the source was probably, at least initially
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  Speaker 1: according to the Israeli media, the Israeli Minister of Defense himself,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, Ryan, no one is above the law.
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  Speaker 1: I am a journalist. I protect First Amendment American rights.
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  Speaker 1: But I checked Israel's law is very clear sources, they
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  Speaker 1: must be able revealed. There is no protection for national security.
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  Speaker 1: So will our president demand extradition of the Israeli Minister
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  Speaker 1: of Defense and this journalist or a prosecution in their homeland.
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  Speaker 4: I am simply just get a long line of people
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  Speaker 4: not being extra dised.
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  Speaker 1: I am just a simple Israeli law. Respector that's all
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  Speaker 1: I am. I just want to see it on my
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  Speaker 1: laws of Maleyah. I don't make they made the law.
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  Speaker 1: Let's apply it equally. Shall interceptors.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk. We didn't have time to get
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  Speaker 3: into this yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: A huge drain in the US interceptor stockpile here in
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  Speaker 1: the United States, some very troubling reporting already stuff being
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  Speaker 1: pulled out of the Indo Pacific, and then our producer
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  Speaker 1: Griffin did a good deep dive and prepared all of us.
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  Speaker 1: There has been some fascinating developments with Ai sam Altman
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  Speaker 1: declaring super intelligence, he wants a new social contract as
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  Speaker 1: a New New Yorker profile about him, some very troubling
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  Speaker 1: stuff inside of it that will break down. And then finally,
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson having a show last night with his most
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  Speaker 1: peciferous attacks yet on Donald Trump, effectively calling him the
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  Speaker 1: Antichrist and saying that he didn't put his Bible hand
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  Speaker 1: don't notice these things, but apparently Tucker did, and expounding
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  Speaker 1: not only that but on the presidence deranged praise to
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  Speaker 1: to the show. Some major breaking news literally right as
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  Speaker 1: this from Donald Trump, A whole civilization will die tonight,
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  Speaker 1: never to be brought back again. I don't want that
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  Speaker 1: to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we
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  Speaker 1: have a complete and total regime change where different, smarter
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  Speaker 1: and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, we will find out tonight one of the
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  Speaker 1: most important moments in the long and complex history of
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  Speaker 1: the world. Forty seven years of extortion, corruption and death
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  Speaker 1: will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And so that is of course an extremely disturbing message
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  Speaker 1: there from the president, and after coming after Ryan the
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  Speaker 1: praise b two a llah open the fucking straight, you
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  Speaker 1: crazy bastards. I also am struck how I've almost never
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  Speaker 1: seen an American president declare a civilizational war effectively, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I think since the Second World War, and even at
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  Speaker 1: that time we tried to make it clear we're not
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  Speaker 1: at war with the German people or the Japanese people,
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  Speaker 1: were at war with the Japanese Empire or with the
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  Speaker 1: Nazi regime. I mean, if you were thinking about the
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  Speaker 1: great people of Iran, who are going to rise up.
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  Speaker 1: We're saying we're effectively in a war with them we
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  Speaker 1: already were. I mean, this is Jenghis Khan. Who's the
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  Speaker 1: khan who took Baghdad in the air? Is it Huligu Khan?
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  Speaker 1: I think off the top of my eye, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Hulagu Khan
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  Speaker 1: was the last person to have this type of rhetoric
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  Speaker 1: before trying to start before trying to storm into the
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  Speaker 1: Persian Empire and into Baghdad and all of those regions.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe Hitler, Yeah, I mean, it is shocking. And
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  Speaker 1: then obviously you and I are responding to this live.
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  Speaker 1: But the implications of this are extremely dire because we're
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  Speaker 1: talking here about a president with the ability to end
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  Speaker 1: the world literally who this is a gateway, I think,
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  Speaker 1: to nuclear weapons use. It's not just about power plants,
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  Speaker 1: and like we are, this is the worst case scenario.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that there's another way to describe it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that's right.
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  Speaker 4: And it seems like Trump is banking on the Iranians
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  Speaker 4: back down. And I have never wanted to be wrong
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  Speaker 4: about something more than I want to be wrong about this.
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  Speaker 4: But My understanding is that the Iranian government does not
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  Speaker 4: feel like Trump is in a pole position, does not
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  Speaker 4: feel like Trump has the cards, as Trump likes to say.
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  Speaker 3: My understanding is that.
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  Speaker 4: They are not going to submit to greater and greater
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  Speaker 4: threats on social media.
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  Speaker 3: You, I mean, if.
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  Speaker 4: The new if I really thought the nukes were going
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  Speaker 4: to go off, then I don't know. But it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: matter what I would do really, because Yeah, my sense
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  Speaker 4: is that they are not going to back down to this.
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  Speaker 4: So if Trump's calculation is that he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: able to ratchet up his tea in the taco to
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  Speaker 4: such a degree that the other side is going to fold,
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  Speaker 4: he is miscalculating, and that is going to mean either
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  Speaker 4: something cataclysmic in a biblical scale or a taco of
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  Speaker 4: the highest order.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's make sure that we lay the ground for that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put a six up there on the screen before
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  Speaker 1: you even get to Trump's press conference. This was from
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  Speaker 1: you guys over at drop site. Iran has rejected the
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  Speaker 1: temporary ceasefire and says has already laid out its terms
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  Speaker 1: for agreement. I do think this is very important to
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  Speaker 1: put together with that truth social post, because obviously Trump
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  Speaker 1: is both trying to sound extraordinarily incendiary but also leave himself.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, like you said, some sort of major taco
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  Speaker 1: It is Taco Tuesday after all, where he says we
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  Speaker 1: have a complete and total regime change, we're different, smarter
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  Speaker 1: and less radicalized minds prevail. Maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows. I mean, it is difficult to see whether
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  Speaker 1: he is talking about an organic revolution after collapsing the
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  Speaker 1: country into a state of civil war, or some sort
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  Speaker 1: of temporary ceasefire that would be put into place. But
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  Speaker 1: what did Jeremy and you guys find out from the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians about what they want and for some sort of
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  Speaker 1: temporary cease fire? And remember all of us are on watch.
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  Speaker 1: Eight pm Tuesday is when the President says that his
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  Speaker 1: deadline expires.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what Jeremy found is that they are not interested
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  Speaker 4: in a temporary ceasefire. That they seem to believe that
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  Speaker 4: the US, which keeps asking for this temporary pause of
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  Speaker 4: anywhere from two days to three days to forty five days,
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  Speaker 4: they they need it, or that the United States needs it.
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  Speaker 4: Like the sense is that the US is exhausted, that
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  Speaker 4: Israel exhaust is exhausted that it is firing off its ammunition,
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  Speaker 4: and it's and it's the defense measures at such at
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  Speaker 4: a scale that really wasn't contemplated by there by our
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  Speaker 4: kind of productive capacity. And so they want to break,
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  Speaker 4: and the Iranians are saying, we're not giving you a break.
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  Speaker 4: What we want is a permanent end to the war.
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  Speaker 3: And if you look at the so they.
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  Speaker 4: Keep these, you keep seeing circulated this like ten point plan.
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  Speaker 4: This is what the Iranians have been putting forward for
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  Speaker 4: many weeks now, and if you look at it, it
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  Speaker 4: actually in significant ways preserves the American dollar. It preserves
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  Speaker 4: American hegemony in a way that it's not obvious the
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  Speaker 4: US can even get it militarily.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, let's let's say they finish up with some.
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  Speaker 4: Type of a toll that where they split the two
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  Speaker 4: million dollars a ship or whatever, and they split it
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  Speaker 4: with Oman, but the strait is open. You're still you
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  Speaker 4: still then have the capacity for oil to be sold
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  Speaker 4: in dollars and for the US to control kind of
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  Speaker 4: energy supplies and maritime shipping, which is the essence of
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  Speaker 4: the American empire.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's it, and everything.
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  Speaker 4: That we enjoy here in the United States rests upon
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  Speaker 4: that the forty trillion dollars in debt is financed by
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  Speaker 4: the fact that the entire world uses the dollar. If
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  Speaker 4: the world stops using the dollar, then they stop buying treasuries.
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  Speaker 4: If they stop buying treasuries, the cost of our borrowing
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  Speaker 4: makes it impossible for us to have the economy and
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  Speaker 4: society that we have. It all crumbles down, and I've
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  Speaker 4: seen a lot of people are like, oh wait, this
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  Speaker 4: is cool. Like oil is going down, plastic is going down,
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  Speaker 4: like AI is going down.
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  Speaker 3: All the worst things in the world are going down.
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  Speaker 4: Well, golf money also finances kind of clean energy. But also, yes,
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  Speaker 4: there's too much plastic in takeout, but there's also plastic everywhere, hospitals, fertilizer.
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  Speaker 3: Without fertilizer, you don't have food.
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  Speaker 4: So the entire you get, you get a massive just
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  Speaker 4: social collapse. And yes, okay, there'll be less plastic in
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  Speaker 4: the ocean, but you'll also have society famin like literal
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  Speaker 4: pan famine, like across the world. There is a way
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  Speaker 4: to transition away from some of the poisons and toxins
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  Speaker 4: that are in our world. Now, this is not it,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a to transition to.
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  Speaker 3: All that's different. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think people I mean again, for most
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  Speaker 1: people who are normally living about their daily lives, I
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  Speaker 1: really don't think they know much about this war. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's very COVID esque. I've compared it to February
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Right now, let's speed it up. What was
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  Speaker 1: the day before the lockdown? It was like March fifteen March.
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  Speaker 1: The hyper online freaks like me, had my mask, had
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  Speaker 1: my goggles, had my I'd already been wearing a mask up,
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  Speaker 1: I had emergency rations, I had it all ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: The vast majority of people. I remember I lived across
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  Speaker 1: from a bar. People were out at the bar, and
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  Speaker 1: then lockdown was literally the next day, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, they have no idea what is coming.
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  Speaker 4: I had this crazy experience house like Elzam like we
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  Speaker 4: gotta get a costco we like and eat all our crap. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, it's going to be a madhouse.
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  Speaker 4: And she calls me from there, She's like, there's nobody here.
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  Speaker 3: What do you like? I think you might be metal ill.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well that's how I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like everyone is going to wake up tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: and it is that is how history happens, Like it
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  Speaker 1: genuinely does turn on a dime and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudd and you were genuinely living.
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  Speaker 3: In a new world.
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  Speaker 1: And just to show you all how close we are,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this genuinely might be one of the most
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  Speaker 1: historic shows we ever do, considering you know, we're in
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  Speaker 1: a new the old world and tomorrow might be a
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  Speaker 1: new world. So here is Donald Trumpy laid out his
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  Speaker 1: full deadline yesterday from the White House podium A one
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  Speaker 1: let's take a listen, said that.
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  Speaker 2: Very little is off limits in Iran as far as
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  Speaker 2: the targeting, including power plants, bridges, you've mentioned those are
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  Speaker 2: there certain kinds of civilian targets, though I'm thinking I.
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  Speaker 5: Don't want to tell you that I don't.
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  Speaker 1: We have.
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  Speaker 5: A plan because of the power of our military, where
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  Speaker 5: every bridge in Iran will be decimated by twelve o'clock
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  Speaker 5: tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be
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  Speaker 5: out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again.
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  Speaker 5: I mean complete demolition by twelve o'clock and it will
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  Speaker 5: happen over a period of four hours.
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  Speaker 1: If we wanted to. We don't don't want that to happen.
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  Speaker 5: We may even get involved with helping them rebuild their nation.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what, if that's the case, the last
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  Speaker 5: thing we want to do is start with power plants,
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  Speaker 5: which are among the most expensive thing and bridges.
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  Speaker 1: Eight pm to midnight Eastern time is definitely the time
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  Speaker 1: I think to be aware, that's when all of these
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  Speaker 1: strikes will be happening. I do think it is very
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  Speaker 1: important to note here that the maximalist positions, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: have not been backed down. Iran remains steadfast as you
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  Speaker 1: laid out in a Jeremy in their story. Look, we'll
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  Speaker 1: let you preserve the dollar, but we are charging tolls
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  Speaker 1: through the strait. We are making sure that you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to attack us in the future. There will be
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  Speaker 1: no temporary seaspire. When the guns stop, they stop forever,
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  Speaker 1: and you will be paying some sort of reparation. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we can fudge the way they're.
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  Speaker 4: Willing to ditch the reparations if they can charge the toll,
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  Speaker 4: it's going.
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  Speaker 1: To say so that we can fudge the mac in
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  Speaker 1: terms of how that reparation gets paid.
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  Speaker 3: They either get to earn it or not.
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  Speaker 1: But this is on the brink of a literal, the
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  Speaker 1: Trump said, a civilizational collapse in Iran, a country of
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  Speaker 1: some ninety four million people. Trump was asked specifically about
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  Speaker 1: those tolls being charged, and ironically, you know, while the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world is like, we need to establish
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  Speaker 1: freedom of navigation in the streets of Hormuz, He's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: instead of the Iranians charging a toll, maybe I will
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  Speaker 1: charge a toll.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: Are you allowed to or are you willing to end
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  Speaker 1: this conflict with Iran charging tolls for passage through the street?
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  Speaker 5: US charging tolls Iran? What about us judging toes?
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  Speaker 1: Is that something you're considering.
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  Speaker 5: I'd rather do that than let them have them run?
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  Speaker 5: Why shouldn't we with the winner?
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  Speaker 1: We won?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, they are militarily defeated. The only thing they have
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  Speaker 5: is a psychology of oh, whether to drop a couple
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  Speaker 5: of minds in the water. All right, No, I mean
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  Speaker 5: we have a concept where we'll charge talls. Okay, I thought.
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  Speaker 3: You meant.
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  Speaker 5: Your question your question would have your question would have
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  Speaker 5: been more accurate if you said us.
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  Speaker 3: So you could see what he's laying out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think you know, if we combined the
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  Speaker 1: civilization truth with what he said yesterday on the White
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  Speaker 1: House lawn when he was asked specifically about whether he
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  Speaker 1: would be committing a war crime to strike Iran's bridges
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  Speaker 1: and power plants.
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  Speaker 3: He called them animals.
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  Speaker 1: It links very directly with what you were talking about
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  Speaker 1: with the civilization war.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan. Let's take a listen and I'll get Ryan's reaction.
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  Speaker 6: Mister President, how would it not be a warp rhyme
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  Speaker 6: with sprank Iran's bridges and power plants?
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  Speaker 5: Because they killed forty five thousand big bull in the
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  Speaker 5: last month. More than that, I think, goodness much for
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  Speaker 5: six sheep. They killed protesters. They're animals and we have
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  Speaker 5: to stop them, and we can't let them have a
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  Speaker 5: nuclear weapon. Very simple.
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  Speaker 1: Trump was asked about the war crimes question multiple times
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  Speaker 1: yesterday brushed them off both basically said we can do
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  Speaker 1: whatever we want. That is true, you certainly can. But
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  Speaker 1: then you know, the rest of the worlds don't be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: How many strikes have we covered of the Iranians hitting
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  Speaker 1: you know, Israelly location or something like that, civilians or
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  Speaker 1: worried under the rubble. And then when the Israelis complain
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  Speaker 1: people are like, really, you people are the ones to complain.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you and I are horrified no matter what,
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  Speaker 1: at the people's bodies getting dug out of the rubble,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's a Gasen, whether it's an Israeli, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: an Iranian, hopefully not in the future, a US citizen.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the world that we're going to live
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  Speaker 1: in now. And it's not that there was a law
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: constraining it. It's that the US didn't operate this way
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: specifically because a we didn't want it to happen to us.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: We wanted to make sure also that you know, any
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: allies or the way that wars and all of that
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: would be fought would to be to minimize explicitly some
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: sort of cash and also of the international picture. I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a surprise. Just yesterday the UK announced
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: they will not allow the use of any of their
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: bases to be used for any strike on Iranian energy infrastructure.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: They're like, we will have no part in this whatsoever.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: This is not like Spain. We're talking about the United Kingdom.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Ye thread of the United States.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Justifying killing civilians by saying their animals is genocidal language.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Notice he now he's saying there were forty five thousand
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: people killed in the protests. He says, maybe there were
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: sixty thousand people killed in the protests. This is just
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: after he acknowledged that the US sent in a bunch
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: of a he said, a lot, a lot of weapons
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: to the protesters, trying to create the very thing that
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: he is saying happened. The Iranians have put out the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: names of roughly three thousand people, many of them police
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: and security officials, who died during those clashes. They say
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: it's three thousand, and they say, if you have names
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: of people who died during those days, submit them to
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: us and we will add them to the list. Where
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: are the names of these forty five thousand to sixty
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: thousand people that he just keeps manufacturing In any event,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: that would not be a reason to kill ninety or
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: one hundred million people or to destroy an entire civilization.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Protests were centered around universities. Trump is blowing up all
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: of the universities. How does he how does he even
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: remotely begin to square that? I mean, he doesn't even try,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Like I don't even know what we're talking about. So
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Trump Trump also won World A four. Oh yeah, this
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: is great. Yeah, so this is Trump was asked. Was
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: something I laid out earlier. It's like, hey, we're in
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: a civilizational war.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: We're going to bomb you. We're going to destroy your
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: entire country.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: We're going to bomb you back to the Stone Ages,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and Iran is actually going to like it. And he
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: keeps He actually even at one point I believe he
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: said that the Iranians are actually asking the US to
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: keep bombing them.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: You've said Iranians would be mad if you stopped these attacks,
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: But why would they want you to blow up their
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: infrastructure to to cut off their power. Wouldn't that be
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: punishing Iranians for the actions of the regime.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: They would be willing just they would be willing, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: it's suffering. They would be willing to suffer that in
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: order to have free tom the Iranians, we've had numerous intercepts,
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: please keep bombing, bombs that are dropping near their homes,
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Please keep bombing. Do it. And these are people that
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: are living where the bombs are exploding, and when we
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: leave and we're not hitting those areas, they're saying, please
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: come back, come back, come back.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: These are the people This hoax is one which exists
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: deeply in US media. In fact, do you want to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: talk about the BBC thing. There's an unfolding scandal. Oh yes,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: right now of the Maybe we'll edit this in post,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but it does matter, just to show you the manufacturing consent,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the way that this type of bs probably makes its
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: way up to the president. But effectively, there was a
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: quote in the BBC. And also we can verify here
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: at breaking points, this is the second time such a
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: thing has happened. Our friend Treat de Parsi was actually
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: on BBC and had multiple clips played to him all
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the Iranians who were saying that they like the bombing,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and he called them out live on the air. He
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: was like, guys, maybe that that is a view, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to say that that's the only view in Iran is preposterous.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And it does now appear that the BBC put a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: quote in one of their stories where they quoted some
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: guy living in Tehran saying quote about them hitting energy infrastructure,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: using an atomic bomb or leveling around. My honest reaction
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: is that I am okay with all of these. The
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: quote after it was called out, were silently disappeared and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: then was replaced by something completely anodyne, and it is
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: now appears they made they either the new fabricated it
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: or they silently removed it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: They have issued no correction. What's the new quote.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: The new quote is if attacking targets in the country
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: brings down the Islamic Republic, I'm fine with that because
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: if the Islamic Republic survives this war, it will stay forever.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the new quote.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that is not even remotely the same thing.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And so that was either a paraphrase, a mistake. Is
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: there an edit, by the way, any sort of correction.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So far, all they've done is silently edited. Now we're
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: not Look, it's a minor, not minor, it is. It's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a big story. Obviously it's a scandal, I think for
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the BBC. But the point is is that this is
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: how it works is you find these fringe actors. Remember
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that Afro woman who was on television who was like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: please miss the president keep bombing my contract and then
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was so upset whenever he did, and she was like, no,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: not like that, That's not.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: What I meant.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I just saw this morning a advisor to some analyst
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: for Iran International, some you know, monarchists is out there
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: being like Trump should nuke Iran. I mean, this is
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a sickness. Were there a Japanese like can you imagine
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five that there were like some Japanese
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: American and he's like, please, President Truman, nuke my country,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Like you have to do it for the good of
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the Japanese people. This is a perverse like twenty first
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: even better creation.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Even better example.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: A Pakistani friend of mine who's just saying the other day,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: he's like, he's like, I think as Munir is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: brutal dictator who kills innocent people in the streets, is
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: dragging Pakistan back into the past. I could not there
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: are enough adjectives for me to describe how I feel
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: about that man and the military establishmer that runs Pakistan.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Never in his wildest dreams, he said, would he imagine
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: urging other countries to bomb Pakistan. That's that I think
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: sickness is right, Hey, it literally it's like you reversed.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: How your mind even gets to that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Place is it's a mental illness. But the point about
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this mental illness is that this artificial narrative has been
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: elevated by extremely fringe elements of the Iranian diaspora, which
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: bubbles up to Fox News into BBC, and then this
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: bs gets put in front of the President and he's like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they you know what, that's it. They want me to
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: bomb them, right. This is how somebody psychologically can either
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: say that the regime or animals, but I care about
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the great people of Iran. Well, if you only talk
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to these two percent or whatever of you know, Iranians
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: who live in like Los Angeles, and they're the ones
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: who are telling you and encouraging you to keep bombing.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: This is the condition.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And of course in our media, the scandal of the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: BBC quote is effectively nothing. It's not like any of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the media journalists or misinformation rate where are they? Where
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: This stuff matters. It is literally being used to perpetuate
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: potentially one of the worst bombing campaigns since the Second
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: World War on an entire civilian population for nothing. At
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: least Japan attacked US.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: In World War Two.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, And this brings us actually to the next
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: element of this conversation, because if it was true that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: the Iranians were begging to be bombed, because the bombs
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: represent liberation, the way that the saga around the downed
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: airmen played out would have been completely different.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Instead, you have US officials who have said everyone with
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: a gun in Iran who was in range of us,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and many people who weren't even range were shooting at us.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, that was a direct quote from the Chairman of
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is that everybody in Iran
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with a gun was shooting at us. Does that sound
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like a population that wants to be liberated? Oh, absolutely not.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I've done a lot of reading. I recommend
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the most successful book on the Second World War bombing
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: campaign from the US perspective, the eight There Force Masters.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: There.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: They made it into a TV series and they talk
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: explicitly about how when these airmen would get shot down,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: they would often be you know, terrorized and like in
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: some cases killed US airmen by the German populace because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I think I forgot the German word. They would call
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: them like it's like terror fliga or something like that,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: terror flyers. Because of the bombing campaign, and that was
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: in a much more targeted bombing campaign by the United States,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: but they've been whipped up by the Nazi regime and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: also of course by the bombing itself to be like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you're the people who are bombing our cities into oblivion,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and they would attack them, they would kill them right direct.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Well that was a little bit later on.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But my point is that even in the midst of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: all of that, of the you know, the vigorous attempts
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of the US to try to bomb like you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: railways or something, people don't like being bombed, right, Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: people do not like to be bombed. And so it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the same scenario right Vietnam. Read the testimony of any
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of these flyers shot down who became pow in North Vietnam.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Think about it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Very often the villagers would take them captive and turn
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: them over and go on the ho Chi mintrail.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Be horrible for all of these people.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Because you can't sleep at night because of this, the
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: fear and the sound of the bombing. They probably killed
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: some people that you know, right so, and they're so
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: distant from you, they're way up there in the sky.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: When you finally get them, Oh my god, this is
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: the person that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, are we justifying, No, what we're saying is that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: this absurd idea that you know, they're wishing to be
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: bombed there's no evidence of that whatsoever. Trump. Also, look
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just last thing here before we move on to these
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: recent strikes by carg Island. I do think it is
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: just very important to lay out. You know, we talked
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: yesterday about what that rescue operation looked like. We don't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: know the full details. Remember, it's not like the US
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: military hasn't lied to us about Jessica Lynch or about
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Pat Tillman. So like for anybody saying that they always
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: tell the truth, yeah, be around the block a little
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: bit and filled with Yeah. Even to this day, people
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: are still litigating what happened on the bin Loten raid.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So what is important to say at the very least
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: is you can look at it two ways. This extraordinary operation.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: We got our guy, nobody was killed. Great Also several
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars aircraft. It took hundreds hundreds, by the
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: testimony of the President, to be able to get these
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: people out. It didn't go exactly to plan. There were
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: significant amounts of fire, enemy fire, helicopters a tens and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: all of that shotdown. And this is on the brink
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: of potential ground operation that could be happening around either
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: tonight or sometime in the future. So let's take a
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: listen a nine please of what the President said.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: We immediately mobilized a massive operation to retrieve him from
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: the mountain. Houled out, and he kept going higher and higher.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: The mountain kept getting rougher and rougher and really very
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: very hard to find. The second rescue mission involved one
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five aircraft, including four bombers, sixty four fighters,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: forty eight refueling tankers, thirteen rescue aircraft, and more. We
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: were bringing them all over and a lot of it
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: was subterfuge. We wanted to have them think he was
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: in a different location because they had a vast military
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: force out there. Thousands thousands of people were looking, so
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: we wanted them to look in different areas. So we
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: were scattered all over like we were right on top
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: of him. We had seven different locations where they thought,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: and they were very confused. They said, well, wait a minute,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: they've got groups here, they've got groups there. It's amazing.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty five aircraft, he said, several hundred
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Americans were involved in this operation. So look, I mean,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I tend to think it was a little bit of both,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that they were both you know at testing, so this
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: potential you're being pull off operate just seeing how how
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: many guys going to get down there? Can we get
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a forward refueling point, how many people? How long can
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: we be on the ground, right, we have to go
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: do it. Anyways, let's try and do a little testing,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: and so you can see, while as well as it
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: went from the tactical point of view, it also showed
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the many perils of what prolonged deployment deep inside of
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Iran could bring for all of us. And you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: again right before we move on to karg and let's
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just say, like the civilization tweet, I don't know about you, Ryan,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I have never actually I've always been afraid Israel would
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: use a nuclear weapon. When you read a whole civilization
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: will die tonite, I'm not really sure you can you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: can rule it out and I had I'm being honest,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: like this is even as far as as upset as
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I am. As you know about this, I really did
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: not fear a use of a tactical move until right now.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: And we'll talk about Tucker later. You know, he's suggesting
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: that Mark Levin is urging it. Yeah, and Mark Levin
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: has been getting his way, like every step of the way.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's just important to say, like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no such thing as a tactical nuclear weapon.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It doesn't exist nuclear weapons, nuclear weapon, whether it's not
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: artillery shell or not. Once you've crossed that threshold, you've
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: crossed it, and then it's it's over.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I mean a devious term.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we've got North Korea with ICBMs,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: We've got all the all these other countries with ICBMs.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, well, you did it all right,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So now that's just the reality of war China, Okay,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: tactical nuke. We're gonna nuke Taiwana if you don't, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: peacefully reunify. I'm not saying that would do that. They
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: probably foolishould do so, but maybe they would be within
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: their rights. Now that's there's no rights.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Everything is called wind. Yes, right now, of course radioactive
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: falls straight up her moves.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: As people love to say, it's not very wide you're
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: going to put a nuke right there, But if the
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: wind is blowing west.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: It really is.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And just to see it, you know, it's not just
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: about crass, it's like, this is real this ninety three
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: million people's lives who are at stake and who even
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: knows about what this will mean?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Who We're all from A fine deal like the deal
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: file states.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I know, that's the cre easiest part is, guys, take
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the deal. The deal. The deal before would have been better,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It would have been better than the Iran deal. The
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: deal now is better than whatever the hell this is?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Can you what is if you collapse a civilization of
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ninety three million? The refuge in Syria? How many people
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: live in Syria? Presd right but yeah, nothing right? A third?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Something like that, and it caused the worst refugee crisis
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: in modern history. Just destabilize all of Europe, changed, the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: country of Turkey forever demographically, Syria alone, I mean, god,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: oh you know, think about the what happened to that?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I sis, I mean all of the fall up even Iraq,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Iraq was nothing compared to this, this, this, this really.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: And if you have a famine in Africa, oh.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Man, yeah, Libya the gateway. All right, well it looks
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: like well, at the very least, we'll be here covering
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: it with all of you. Okay, let's move on to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: card Island. Turning out of some of the breaking news
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: as of this morning. Let's put it up here on
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the screen. The US military is conducting on military targets
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: on Carg Island. So all of the information that we
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: have now so far, Ryan is that these strikes on
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Carg Island are so called on military targets, as in,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: not on the oil landing platforms, not on any of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the places military station docks. Right, there's small military stations. Now,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: remember we were told previously that actually we had already
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: wiped out the military targets all over Carg Island. So
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: it does make you a question why do you have
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: to do it again. But there's a lot of things
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that you can see into this. It could be a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: precipitation of a ground operation to take Carg I don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: think that that will happen, But it also could just
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: be one to a faint exactly before some sort of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: ground operation elsewhere in the country. It could also be
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: a demonstration obviously of US power or intelligence, not I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: think we've already done that. But bigger picture, it could
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: also just be a retaliation for what happened yesterday, which
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: again the whole Western press is silent on. So I'm
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: going to give you the floor to tell about what
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: happened in Saudi Arabia, because these seem massively important, these
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: strikes that happen, people are totally silent. Saudis are claiming
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: basically what are they saying. They're like, oh, it was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: just debris from falled missiles. The videos coming out with
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: huge fires seem to indicate much bigger percentage of their
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: oil is offline than they're indicating.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So go ahead, yeah, we put up at a eleven.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: So there's the jew Bail industrial city in eastern province
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: in Saudi Arabia. There's a major industrial hub there, partly
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: owned by Sabic, which is Saudi owned company, and it's
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: been hit, and it is on.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Fire, and it is it is extraordinarily.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Central to Saudi Arabia's economy, and Saudi Arabia's economy is
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: extraordinarily central to the Western economy and to the global economy.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: As drops out right here, Algebrail is one of the
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: world's largest industrial cities and a core pillar of Sadi
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: rabis petrochemical economy. You add this to Iran's petrochemical industry
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: getting hit yesterday, so this is this is a retaliation
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: for Israel and the US hitting Iran's petrochemical production facilities.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I've seen estimates as high as twenty percent of the
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: petrochemical production.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: In the world.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And so we're talking about everything. So you got plastic pipes,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: you know that connect the piping of civilizations. That's where
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: these are made. Everything in a hospital pretty much. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: what am I doing. I don't need to explain to
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you how important plastic is and these polymers are to
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: the underpinning of the entire county. Somebody needs to explain it,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: perhaps to Trump. I think everybody watching this basically understand
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: its just just look around you. The entire underpinnings of
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: our civilization as it exists, run through these production facilities,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: and you say, oh, well, twenty percent, that's not so much.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: We still got the other eighty percent. Like, that's not
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: exactly how it works. Everything seizes up. You've got as
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: a business, export import business, You've got your supply lines.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden you no longer have those. You
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: then collapse. You were our node. You don't exist on
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: an island either. You your business was a node for
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: other businesses that that collapses. And so you don't just
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: get the kind of violent combustion of the petrochemical industry,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: you get the slow collapse of bankruptcies of companies throughout
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: the world, and then like, okay, well we need financing
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to get this going again. Well, who do we go
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: to whenever you need financing? We go to the golf,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and the golf says, wait a minute, And I reported
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: this on Sunday, Wait a minute. We don't actually have
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: the money. We're reviewing all of our deals. So the
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: financing that we were able to make before we cannot
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: make now if you want to pay us a much
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: higher premium. Obviously we still have some money. They are
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: extraordinarily wealthy. They've got sovereign wealth funds worth trillions of
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: dollars or whatever, hundreds of billions at least is it trillions.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I think it actually is trillions.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: But instead of you know, three four percent, we're going
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: to need eight nine percent. And instead of this tape
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: being silent partners, we're going to be active partners here.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: So that's the petrochemical industry in the refining process.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: We can put up a twelve.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: So in the UAE you have so finally, so this
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: is coming from Sentinel to the US is doing It's
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: absolute best to make sure that satellite imagery is not
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: circulating two Americans to see what's happening. So Adnoc is
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: one of the UAE's main kind of oil companies. This one,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: this one here is the Asab oil field. So this
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: is an image that our team took before and after
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: April fifth. Before on the screen here it's on the right,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: that's the before. That's what a refinery. That's what you
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: wanted to look like. On the left there that's the
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: It looks like.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Now, that's what you don't want it to look like.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: They that's that's not the only one that was hit
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: in the UAE.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: And so Kuwait is getting absolutely blasted h refiner. Reason now.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: For the United States and Israel to respond by hitting
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: carg Island.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: And also what's it called parse oil field? Parsefield, which
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: is really like yesterday.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So Iran is now saying the restraints are off.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: So what we just showed you is damage done to
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: the Gulf economy with the restraints on. Yes, now they're
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: saying the restraints are coming off. Well, let's get into that.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: So the IRGC announced earlier today that after the strikes
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: on card island, that all of the strikes are all
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of their prior restraint and red lines on energy of
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: infrastructure will be put away. There's also this element, guys,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I sent it and let's put it in in posts,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: is that Israeli media is reporting that attacks on Iranian
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: railway tracks appear to have isolated Tehran from the rest
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of the country. A step quote that will help protesters
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: take to the streets if needed. Some ten different railway
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: sections have been struck. Now you could read that the
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: way you want it to. You could also read it
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: as now we can starve the entire population of the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: capital city because no infrastructure, food, or anything can get
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: on its way. And if we bomb all of the
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: bridges and the power plans, then we're going to have
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: mass chaos and no way for any of those people
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to get out.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: So you choose the way that you would want to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: read that one.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I think I'll probably read it in the latter. But
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: you can see very clearly Israel actually issued yesterday, ironically
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a message to the people of Iran. They said, please
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: stay off of the railway tracks. Of course, Iran has
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: no internet and hasn't had internet for a month, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: so oh and the message I think was put out well,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: at least one part of it was in English, So okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: was it intended for the Iranian people or was it
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: intended for the Western media to say, oh wow, thank
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you so much for putting that out there. The intent,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: nonetheless is the same. They're disguising it either under regime
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: change and or regime collapse. Regime collapse is what they're meet,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you know, modal outcome is the is what they would
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to see in this. And so, I mean, all you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: can say from these strikes so far is this is
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a preview of where things are going. It can get
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: a hell of a lot worse. As Trump has said,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: civilization will die tonight. But the retaliation from Iran. These
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: are people who have dug missile cities out after they've
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: been bombed. They've proven extraordinarily resilient. We study the United States.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: They've been able to shot down at F fifteen, they
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: clipped an F thirty five at shot down two different
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: A tens. They have struck refeeling tankers by their proxies.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: The who these are sitting there, who knows if they're
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: going to enter the war after what happens tonight, If
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: it does happen, what that will all look like in
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the IRGC is taking saying that we're going to take
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: off all of the guardrails, and if we do, wipe
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: out their power plants and the power plants and the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: desalination plants. And then you have the Qatari, I believe
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: the Prime minister this morning or the present whatever their ruler,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: saying this morning, we are at the tipping point for
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the region, entire region from spinning out of control. So
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: the signs are all there. You can all see it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And what we saw may be extremely tame from what
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: we will see sometime in the future. I also think
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: it might be worth noting why don't you talk while
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I look at what's going on with oil markets as
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: a result, and.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: So the final thing to think about is where we
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: are in this process. So we talked at the very
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: top of the block that the US keeps pushing for
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: a temporary ceasefire, and that appears to be because the
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: US and Israel are both exhausted because they are not
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: built for this type of what is now becoming long
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: term like they're built.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: For this shock and awe. You know, two or three days, the.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: One aircraft carrier group is already offline. The ford had
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: to depart the entire battle space. We have lost, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: significant numbers amounts of equipment on the ground, we have
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: fired off extraordinary amounts of our both defensive and offensive munitions,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: and in general, aircraft being deployed.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: At this pace require maintenance.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: You can't just constantly run these things, and so the
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: US is hoping for some kind of stop down where
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: they can kind of you know, you gotta change oil,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: gotta change the tires, you got to get these things
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: up up and going again. We're reaching the actual physical
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: limits of American.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Capacity, and so.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: That could have something to do with why the President
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: is ratcheting things up to eleven at this point, because
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: we can't actually, you know, go on forever like this,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: and as long as Iran can maintain kind of quote
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: unquote control of the strait, which means as long as
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: they have a drone somewhere in Iran that is capable
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: of reaching that area, ships can't get the insurance to go.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Through like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: One dollars drone one theoretical potential twenty thousand dollars drone
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: is all we're talking about, and Iran has not yet
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: used has used a few of its hypersonic, most sophisticated
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: ballistic missiles, but has held those back so at the
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: exact same time that the Israelis and the Americans are depleted, Iranians, yes,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: are smashed into oblivion, but still have countless numbers of
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: hypersonic missiles that have even more sophisticated targeting capacity than
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the ones they've been using to date. And if you
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: push this war beyond where we are now, and they're
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: saying that they're lifting the restraints, and you also have
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: the entire backbone of the economy in this small area,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think people have like absorbed where this goes.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: It's very Covidian in that sense.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: And think about who cares more like the I think
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: it's the Greeks who say, wet man's not afraid of
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: the rain. Has been getting smashed by sanctions for decades,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: And so you can.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Make them more miserable.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: They already have a currency that's worthless, an economy that
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: is grounded to dust. So yeah, you can make them
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit worse, and you can bomb them, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: you can keep bombing them.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: The West doing okay, right? Or was or is today
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: like right now as we sit here today.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Still Okay, the the hammer's coming, it's been swung, hasn't
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: hit the nail yet, but we have a lot farther
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: to fall.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: And so there's that asymmetric gap as.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Well, right, and what level of pain do you want
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to suffer for what? Yeah, and for what reason exactly.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: It's not like we're fighting, you know, World War two
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: or something worthwhile.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: It's something completely a war of choice.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: It's unpopular, it's not what anybody wanted, what they voted
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: based on, and it will go down as I genuinely, look,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I never thought I would see an Iraq event again.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: If we go through with this, it will be worse.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I actually am convinced this will be worse.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: And Professor Pape even said, like, this could be worse
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: in Vietnam. Yeah, you remember he said that to you. Vietnam.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it was a tiny little country with
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: no control over twenty percents of the world's oil. Now
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: we created an intolerable geopolitical situation for everybody involved, from
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the Iranians to the US to the Gulf, which just means.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: More and more and more full blown total war.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: That's where everything and Vietnam broke the back of the
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: American economy, It brought in stagflation, it broke the New
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Deal Coalition apart. Yes, a RAQ allowed China to spend
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: twenty years investing in its own kind of development, and
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: while we burned trillions of dollars doing war. And now
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: we're going to I just finish ourselves off with this one.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Very possible. Yeah, all right, let's move on. All right,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to have professor John Miersheimer. We had a
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: bit of a scheduling snaffoo, but we will get him
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: back on the show very soon. We promised, why don't
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: we talk about some of the things that we were
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: going to talk about with Professor Memersheimer.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And that is.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Trump effectively saying there are no allies but the golf
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: country and Israel be one.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: And it's not just NATO. You know who ELS didn't
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: help us? South Korea didn't help us. You know who
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: else didn't help us? Or Australia didn't help us. You
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: know who els didn't help us?
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Japan.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: We've got fifty thousand soldiers in Japan to protect them
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: from North Korea. We have forty five thousand soldiers in
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: South Korea to protect us from Kim Jong un, who
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: I get along with very well, as you know. Do
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: you notice he said very nice things about me. He
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: used to call Joe Biden a mentally retarded person. Okay,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: so don't tell me about your stuff. Joe Biden said,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: he's a mentally retarded person. He was so nasty to
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Joe Biden. It was terrible. But to me, he likes Trump.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: And do you notice how nice things are with North goat,
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: it's very nice.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Who didn't help us South Korea, Japan, in Australia Earlier
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: in that he also is like, but you know the Gulf,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: they've been tremendous. I'm like, yeah, they're tremendous because they're
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: getting hit right now. Otherwise they could care less. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: think about all of it. And then of course he
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: named checks Israel. Let's think about how inverted this is.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Like he calls out NATO and again, look, no NATO defender.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: If anything goods from the war, maybe just turns.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Soccer into a yeah, yeah, NATO sympathized.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, not a NATO sympathize because people confuse it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: As I've said, with NATO, the problem with NATO is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that we have all these countries which are completely irrelevant
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to the US in NATO. However, the original idea was
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: not wrong. Well, yeah, Germany, the UK, France might be
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: it for me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: But you know, maybe a few others can can add it.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You could oh hell no, yeah, you can petition from
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: that point forward as to who you who else do
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you think should be from NATO.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: But that's my starting point.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, So let's take those three countries, Japan, South Korea.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: So Japan number three economy in the entire world. South
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Korea probably in the top twenty economies, top trading partner
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: of the United States. Tens of thousands of US troops
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: who were there fought side by side in the Korean War.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: South Korean fought side by side with America and Vietnam.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Now we shouldn't be there, but when the call came,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: they answered the call. They fought side by side with
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: American troops. By the way, South Korea creates has some
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: of the best military technology and has sold much of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: it to the Gulf and replaced much of the US
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: ammunition stocks at our requests. By the way, even though
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: they had to strip their own stockpile after we asked
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: them to do so when we gave it all to Ukraine.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Japan ninety percent of their oil comes through the straits
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: of her moves. As I said yesterday, I read the Korean, Japanese,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Singaporean and Chinese press every single day, especially since this
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: conflict happened. Every day. When I read their press, they
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: are full blown panic mode. That is what we have
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: done to these people, and we're scolding them for not
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: using their mility. The Koreans are like dispatching people to
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan with their hands, being like we
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: need oil now right now. The Japanese, I mean, they're
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: on a full blown crisis. Their Prime Minister this morning
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: was like, I will not rule out having to tell
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: people in the future to ration Like She's like, I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: can't even tell people that that's not ron imic, and yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to I mean, the ninety percent of
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: their oil, what are they supposed to do and if
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: we go through with this power plant. The IRGC, by
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: the way, they apologize for the fact that this is
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: all breaking literally as we're talking. They just said in
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: response to Trump's civilization truth, they said If that happens,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and the entire region will then plunge into
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: complete darkness. So they have the coordinates, so what will happen.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: That means twenty percent of the world's oil is not
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: just choked in the strait, it's cut as in there's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: no refinery being operated, there's no you know the I mean,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: if you take a well down. As I understand it
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: now having spoken to some of these oil people, is
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world is to shut down
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: a refinery. It takes you would act actually refine. You
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: would prefer to refine at ten percent, at ten percent
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: capacity rather than zero because zero back to ten apparently
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: takes forever, and then zero to one hundred is like
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a whole thing. Again, I don't understand the machinery of
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: it all, but that's what I've been told by these
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: oil experts. Well, that's Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Already seventeen percent of Katar's natural gases offline. This could
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: be one hundred percent. I mean, that is forty percent
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: of LNG in the whole world, right, So that is
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: blackouts and everywhere you talk a lot about Pakistan. One
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: hundred percent of Pakistani LNG comes from Katar, one hundred percent,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: which is why they're so desperate to have a piece deal.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: This is why so there will be I mean not
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: just rolling blackouts, blackout forever for months, potentially on end.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: So Yeah, to inflict this level because we just talked
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: about the human damage of Iran, to inflict this level
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: of damage on the top trading partners of the whole
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: United States of America, you are fundamentally flipping them the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: bird and basically saying I'm with Israel and with the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: golf over you. When the combined trade of those places
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I just listened is probably one point five trillion with
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Israel and the GCC. I don't even think if it
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: would trip one hundred and fifty five billion.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: It's so crazy. Yeah.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: And the problem is that Saudi Arabia has been doing
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: okay up until now that member a problem, and the
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Red Sea they were incentivized to not find this to
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: be that awful for them. And I did a story
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: on Sunday over at Dropside about how a lot of
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: the golf financing is now being reconsidered as a result
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: of the deprecation of the golf finances that is coming
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: from the collapse of their physical infrastructure and their ability
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: to produce oil. Some money get capital, which then turns
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: into the fine nancying of the entire Western world. But
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: as one of these top officials golf officials told me,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia people think that they're getting killed, but actually, yes,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: they can't export as much through the strait of hormones
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: and there, you know, and their ability to export is
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: slightly down. They were able to move a lot of
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: things as you were saying other directions, and the fact
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: that they're now getting double or triple what they were
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: getting before makes up for the difference. And they're seeing
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: their competitors getting smashed as well.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: So from a very cynical perspective, it's like, this is
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: actually not so bad for us, Like we could we
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: can manage this.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: If their power plants get hit, and their and their
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: petrochemical plant just got hit, their industrial base just got hit.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: If if Iran retaliates for being plunged into darkness by
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: plunging Saudi Arabia and the UA and Cutter into darkness,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: like you said, that sets them back right now. They're
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: set back two or three years, bunch of investment, you
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: rebuild things.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: Millions and billions you get Yeah, but it's stable, but
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: you stillble, you get, you get back online.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: It'd be a lot of suffering for several years, higher
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: prices that probably never come down totally. But you can
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: bring back things to some semblance of what they were
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: like on February twenty seventh before Trump and Israel launched
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: this war. You plunge all of these countries into darkness.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Now you're talking about a decade, a lost economic decade.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and let me read you what the Iranians. This
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is senior Iranian source deroorters again, this is all breaking
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: because they're responding live. If the situation gets out of control,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Iran's allies will close the Babel Mendev straight right, which
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: is who they's closing down the Red Sea, and then
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: it's over. There's no more oil period, there is no
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: moral because Saudi is coming out of the end. Saudi's
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: backup plan is now, the backup.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Plan is over.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: You will almost certainly see suicide drones that try to
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: hit the pipeline. They already were able to hit the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Yanbu terminal. They will try to destroy also, by the way,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I just saw a report Yanbu was down significantly in
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: terms of the amount of oil they were even able
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: to export just last week compared to the week before.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: So clearly there's something going on that they weren't telling us.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: But that trickle of oil is really keeping to the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: extent that the oil market is still afloat. That is
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: one of the main reasons that it is. And they
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: say specifically they will close the Straight or they will
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: close Bob A.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Mundup.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: If the situation continues there are no negotiations with the Americans,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: we will strike energy plans in response to these attacks,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and the entire region will then reciprocally be plunged into darkness,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: including Saudi Arabia. All of this, I think really backs
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: up Professor Robert Pape's New York Times op ed, which
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: coincidentally they stole from his Breaking Points segment.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Love it, let's put it up. Yeah, I guess we'll
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: take it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: But I mean there's no attribution, which is kind of annoying,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: but it's okay. So they say the war is turning
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it on into a major world power.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: From professor You've heard it here first.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: You heard it literally here first. Don't forget it. They
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: almost certainly stole it from my Twitter feed after I
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: tweeted out the clip of Urine Emily's a fantastic interview
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: with him. And look, I mean, I think this is
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: a very obvious the leverage points that we've now seen
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Iran be able to hit that are very tactical, precise,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: but important for the strategic picture of their ability to
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: exact pain. And with one fifth of the world's supply
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: moving through this strait, and then potentially also being able
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: to shut down Saudi Arabia, the Baboo Mendeb you know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: in the Red Sea, those two things really would I mean,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Is there a price of oil?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Like and at that point is the price the price
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't reflect reality. If the price is four hundred barrel,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: that's basically only the US and the richest countries in
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the world will have it. For everybody else like they
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: can't afford it, they'll just be no oil. And even
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: for us, like we may be able to, we may
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: be willing to pay X amount for oil they're luckily
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: we're okay or a net exporter. But even then, as
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I understand it, refinery capacity and all that gets very complicated.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Even if we were to do some sort of an
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: export ban, it would probably lead to an eventual shortage
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: of some kind, like there's a full blown shortage that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: could happen, or diesel or jet fuel like all of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: these types of refined products, which fundamentally that's why we
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: care about oil in the first place. So just looking
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: at all of this happening live and seeing, look, this
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: will have a major impact on.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: Us, as I said, but we're not gonna start We're
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: gonna be okay.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: But for the rest of the world, like Japan, South Korea,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: they it might actually be full blown like rationing. They
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: might have to say nobody can drive. They might have
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: to do I mean, what's the worst case rolling blackout,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: like they would like look between you know, in the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: hot part of the day, no ac. I've lived through that.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: When I went to India as a kid, we had
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: periods during the day where they're like, look from three
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: to nine, no current. It's just that's how people live,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: there's no power. Well that really could be the reality
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: even in very developed countries, and then total blackout in
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the rest. So just watching his you know, his statement,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: and then seeing also the reaction where the Japanese and
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the Australians. I saw the Australian prime ministries like, look,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: we just want peace. Had nothing to do with this,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: but now it's a disaster for US and the Japanese.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I mean literally, this is a full blown crisis of Koreans.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It's a crisis of course, for the Europeans, it's a
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: crisis too. It's a crisis you know for almost every
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: single major US ally which is not named Israel is
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: very unhappy about this. And then you have the UK
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: denying our base rights, right, I mean, you can't go
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: back from that like that fractures the alliances as we
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: know it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: And the question is who is telling Trump this? Because
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: as we talked about in the in the first block
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: there you have you've been hearing Trump say a lot
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: of completely delusional things, one of them being the Iranians,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: we have signal intercepts, so that I don't think he
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: made this up. So Trump said, we have signal intercepts
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: of Iranians begging us to bomb them.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: So the reason I don't.
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: Think he made it up is because he's using the
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: words to signal intercepts. I think somebody in his orbit
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: told him that Oh, of course, I think it's a
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: fabric thing. I don't think they have actual telephone communications
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: where just two regular Ronians are talking to each other
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: and they're saying, if America is listening, please keep bombing us.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's real, but I do think is real.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: As somebody told Trump that setting that aside, what are
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: what are Dan Kane, Pete Haig Seth in particular, telling
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Trump about how this war is going, what is best
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: at telling him about what the effect is on the economy?
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Where what are Jade Vance Tulsea Gabbert. I don't think
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: you can even get into the White House anymore.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: She's tweeting Aloha from Hawaii, doing nothing, just sitting around
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: waiting to get fired. At this point, what a joke
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of Can we say that all these people you're doing
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: what you disgust me.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Your whole point, your whole point in compromising all of
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: your integrity, is that you're going to be in the
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: room at critical moments and your voice is going to
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: make a difference. That's the argument for why you do this,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: like and if you can't, then you quit and credited
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: his credit. Yeah, look, he can hate the guy and
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: all that and he talked about the the herm Hermanu
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: seal around Trump that he's not he's not getting the
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: information that we all have, like because he's not getting
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: it from cable news. They're not being honest about what's
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: going on here. Uh, you know, he talks to a
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: lot of people. So if you're one of these people
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: like that talks to Trump all the time, come on, guys,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: like somebody telling because clearly Hagsath and Caine, Rubio and
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: these rest are afraid of telling Trump the truth. To me,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: they should be more afraid of what the political implications
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: are going to be for them. I mean, they should
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: be more afraid of what they're doing to the world.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: But I think we've dispatched with the idea that they.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Care about that. But we're Rubio heg Seth like dvance too,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: like like, how.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: Do you think your future looks in a world that
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: is in global depression?
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Because this unfolded?
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Can we not even talk about that? That's so far
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: beyond that, right, I don't give a fun but fu
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: their future?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Well then what then?
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: What motivates them? Something has to motivate them to shake
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: them out of this.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Look, you know, I'm a cynical person. Ryan, We talked
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: about it many times. Even this, I mean, like, this
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: is sick. This is the world is on a precipice
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: of disaster, potential nuclear weapons. Somethings are sitting in their
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: offices thinking about running for office. You think you're running
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: for office after this. I'm gonna tell you this, I'm
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: gonna do whatever the fuck I can to make sure
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: you don't get a single inch.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Closer to power.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: I'm nobody, all right, but maybe enough people together it
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: will be something.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: The entire worlds with you. Yeah, going to roll with you. Yes, Tulsi,
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: JD all these other people.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you got you got twelve hours, guys
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: like ten, you got ten hours, Like, get it together.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: You at this point? All right, anyway, let's move on.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's true, but still still dial a bit, dial
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: it back. Come on, come on, guys, come on, let's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: move on.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: Okay, okay,