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Chuck & Buck 6-9 Hour 3: One Series with Turbo, Baseball Brunch and we need your help! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: We roll into our eight o'clock hour and we have
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks One Series for you. That's right every June,
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Speaker 1: every day of June for the past few years, so
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Speaker 1: we all always do the Seahawks One Series. That's one
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Speaker 1: analyst slash insider in town bringing down one key Seahawks
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Speaker 1: player for one entire interview. And today, yes, he's doing
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Speaker 1: work with serious. He has a podcast here locally as well,
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Speaker 1: after every Seahawk game that he is a part of.
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Speaker 1: He had the best biceps in the history of the
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Speaker 1: National Football League and he played for your Seahawks as well.
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Speaker 1: You know him, you love him. It's Turbo himself. Robert
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Speaker 1: Turbin now joins us for our Seahawks one series here
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Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck Turbo.
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Speaker 2: How are you hey, I'm doing really, I'm doing great.
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Speaker 2: How about you?
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Speaker 1: So I'm doing all right? Is it number one NFL history?
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Speaker 1: I mean, will they make iron busts of your biceps
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Speaker 1: and put them in the Hall of Fame someday?
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they're gonna do that. I've
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Speaker 2: got some competition over the years. But it is hard work,
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Speaker 2: hard work. K's off. That's I can say about that.
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Speaker 1: Uh, well, I'm going to get into our Seahawks one
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Speaker 1: Series player. I'm gonna cheat a little bit though. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of biceps, what was your reaction to seeing Miles Garrett
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Speaker 1: joined the NFC West last week?
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Speaker 2: Well, it was the shocking trade, only in the sense
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Speaker 2: that the l A Rams were the ones that capture them.
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Speaker 2: You know, I thought that the Grounds making the deal
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Speaker 2: wasn't so shocking, but the la Rams kind of suping
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Speaker 2: in and getting them was the was the factor. And
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously they're trying to maximize the last couple
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Speaker 2: of years in Matthew Staffords and good on them.
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Champ Robert Turbin is with us here for
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Speaker 1: our Seahawks one Series Today one analysts bring it down
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Speaker 1: one key Shawk player for one entire interview. So let's
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Speaker 1: get to it. Who are we going to break down today?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know who got to go to the backfield,
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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. And the guy that has
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Speaker 2: sort of bursted onto the scene last season, had a
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Speaker 2: nice year before the injury kind of gave it away
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Speaker 2: right there. But Zak Charbona is what I want to
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Speaker 2: talk about.
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Speaker 1: I love it. Well, let's get into it. Let me
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Speaker 1: ask I think this is the big question, especially since
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Speaker 1: we're adding a rookie which we'll get to in a
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Speaker 1: moment in that backfield to replace ken Walker. But push
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Speaker 1: comes to shove Zach Charbonay returns healthy at some point
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Speaker 1: during the course of the season. Do you think he
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Speaker 1: is a guy that is good enough to be a
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Speaker 1: number one running back for a Super Bowl champion?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I do. I do. I do think that
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Speaker 2: he has all of the qualities and all of what
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Speaker 2: it takes to be a three down back in the NFL,
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Speaker 2: a three down back for a Super Bowl championship winning team.
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Speaker 2: You think about his run style. It's physical. You can
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Speaker 2: check that box. You know, he gets down, he'll he's decisive.
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Speaker 2: You can check that box. And got good guys and
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Speaker 2: things of that nature. You can check that box. And
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Speaker 2: then most importantly, you know, you think about his ability
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Speaker 2: to be able to make plays on third down. You
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Speaker 2: don't think Zach Sharpney is the most uh you know,
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Speaker 2: you know him has a as a large receiving threat,
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Speaker 2: but he does have good hands that he can pass protect.
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Speaker 2: And if you can get a guy that can recognize
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Speaker 2: blitz you know, blitz concepts or third down and be
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Speaker 2: able to step in and get it done from a
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Speaker 2: mental and physical standpoint where you've got yourself a three
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Speaker 2: down back that you can win the Super Bowl with.
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Speaker 2: And so he, of course, in my eyes, can be
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Speaker 2: a number one running back on the super Bowl winning team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound sounded legitimately surprised. I was even questioning it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, how good do you think he could be
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Speaker 1: if he was just let loose and let rip during
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Speaker 1: a season?
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Speaker 2: Well, I think he could be a really great player,
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Speaker 2: you know, I really do. I mean, the Seahawks, over
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Speaker 2: the course of the franchise's history, has always found ways
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Speaker 2: to you know, bring in, you know, some all time
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Speaker 2: great running backs. Think about the Kurt wi Owners of
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Speaker 2: the world and obviously the Seine Alexander's and you know,
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Speaker 2: I think if ken Walker the third would have stuck around,
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Speaker 2: he would have been an all time great Seahawkey was
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Speaker 2: obviously a Super Bowl MVP, not to mention you know,
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Speaker 2: Marshaun Lynch and other guys, and so, you know, with
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Speaker 2: more repetition and more opportunity, you get a guy that's
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Speaker 2: working hard and does all the right things on and
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Speaker 2: off the field, you know, you can become a great player.
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Speaker 2: And I think that Zach Charbonay is on track to
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Speaker 2: be able to accomplish that.
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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin is though with us for our one series.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about Zach Charbonet right now, who is injured
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Speaker 1: ACL injury is going to be targeted for a mid
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Speaker 1: season return for the Seahawks. I think that might be
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Speaker 1: a little bit optimistic. How worried are you about that
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Speaker 1: recovery time?
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit concerning. I tore my ACL in
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Speaker 2: January of two thousand ten. I was still in college,
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Speaker 2: and the retur can be gruesome, you know, just to
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Speaker 2: kinning on the severity of the injury and if there's
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Speaker 2: any complications with the surgery and stuff like that. I
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Speaker 2: was able to return to full speed in eight months.
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Speaker 2: I know guys are doing it a lot sooner now.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't play that season, and I didn't play
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Speaker 2: that season because I knew that I probably wouldn't be myself,
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Speaker 2: and I knew that I only had one more year
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Speaker 2: of college left and I wanted to maximize that opportunity,
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Speaker 2: and so I read shirted that year so I can
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Speaker 2: come back and actually feel like myself, not have to
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Speaker 2: wear the knee brace and feel super restricted and all
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Speaker 2: of those things. And so my only concern is that,
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Speaker 2: you know, when he first comes back and he takes
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Speaker 2: those first couple hits, how stiff does the need get?
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Speaker 2: You know, how explosive can he be on a down
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Speaker 2: to down bases on a game the game basis, I
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Speaker 2: don't know what kind of shape are you going to be,
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Speaker 2: And there's nothing like football shape until you're actually playing
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Speaker 2: football and you're in the game, and so you know,
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Speaker 2: I don't know how quickly Zach is going to be
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Speaker 2: able to get acquainted when it comes back mid season,
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Speaker 2: But if he's able to finish the season strong, I
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Speaker 2: think the year after is when we'll see the real
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Speaker 2: Zach Sarburney back after.
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Speaker 1: Having been through it yourself. How important it is is
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Speaker 1: it not to rush it, not to try to feel
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Speaker 1: like I've got to get back for my teammates. How
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Speaker 1: important is it to make sure that you're one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent recovered from this major injury.
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Speaker 2: It's actually the most important part of it. And it's
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Speaker 2: so hard when you're an athlete. You feel pressure, you
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Speaker 2: don't want your job to get taken. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: just a different atmosphere, especially at the pro level, and
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Speaker 2: so guys make tough decisions when it comes to injuries
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Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, but the Seahawks, you know, I
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Speaker 2: played for four teams in the NFL. The Seahawks by by,
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Speaker 2: by far, were the best in terms of, you know,
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Speaker 2: ensuring that players are taken care of from a medical standpoint.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're willing and open to practicing as much
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Speaker 2: patience as it takes in order for Zach Sabiney to
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Speaker 2: be the best that he can be when he comes back.
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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin is with that's part of our Seahawks one series.
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Speaker 1: Former Seahawk running back, and of course he's got his
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Speaker 1: feet both planet in the broadcasting world now serious sports
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports Network. He's podcasting here on a local basis
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Speaker 1: and and we've discovered a really great talent here for
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Speaker 1: breaking down some Seahawks football. So we're tapping into it
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Speaker 1: here on Seahawks one series. And he's chosen Zach Charboney.
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Speaker 1: Of course, he chose a running back biased to break
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Speaker 1: down for us here today. And we got a lot
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Speaker 1: more to discuss about Zach Charbonay because Ideal World Charbonay returns,
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Speaker 1: you know, waits the full distance gets back, say late October, Robert,
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Speaker 1: do you foresee Jadarian Price kind of just stepping right
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Speaker 1: into the Walker role and so it just turns into
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Speaker 1: Charbonnet and Price at some point during twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: or do you think that the the carry sharing will
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Speaker 1: be divvied up a little differently if in fact these
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Speaker 1: two end up being a two headed machine.
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Speaker 2: Well, Jenerium Price has no choice to to accept that.
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Speaker 2: Quote unquote Kenneth Walker. The third role is the first
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Speaker 2: round pick, and so he got some big shoes to
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Speaker 2: fill as the as the primary back going into the season.
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Speaker 2: He's going to be the primary back going into the season,
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Speaker 2: despite whatever mistakes he might make in the preseason and
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Speaker 2: all those things. He's going to be depended on, you know,
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Speaker 2: to be the guy. And then when that comes back,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think Zach will probably get you know,
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Speaker 2: minimal stuff. I don't see Zach getting double digit carries
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Speaker 2: right away when he returns. He might get five or
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Speaker 2: six carries in the game. He might work some third
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Speaker 2: down pass protection stuff, but you know, I don't see
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Speaker 2: his load, you know, kind of you know, being very heavy,
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Speaker 2: especially the start. Now as a season progressives, maybe Judurian
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Speaker 2: Price starts to hit that rookie wall a little bit.
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Speaker 2: That's where that betteran presidence with Zach Sharpennay really starts
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Speaker 2: to show up week twelve, thirteen fourteen, and then you
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Speaker 2: start to see still some imbalance. I think Juderian Price
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Speaker 2: for the majority of the season will get most of
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Speaker 2: the work, but he'll start to see a little bit
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Speaker 2: more balance in terms of playtime between the two.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny you bring up the rookie wall because
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Speaker 1: as you were saying that, I long expressed you know
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Speaker 1: that I think it's great to add fresh legs at
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Speaker 1: the running back position at the end of the season
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Speaker 1: when everyone else is tired, and all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: you get some guy back from an injury, or you're
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Speaker 1: traded for somebody that has all the tread left on
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Speaker 1: his tires. It's amazing. I mean, I could point out
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Speaker 1: a list to you, but there have been a list
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Speaker 1: of guys that at the end of the year kind
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Speaker 1: of took over football seasons just because as running backs
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Speaker 1: they were fresher than the defense defenses trying to bring
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Speaker 1: them down. So could it be a strange benefit for
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Speaker 1: Zach Charbonay to miss some time and even though he's
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Speaker 1: coming off an injury by the time you hit playoff time,
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Speaker 1: that he might be the freshest cat out there.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a legitimate point. I think Kenneth Walker
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Speaker 2: and Third is a good example of that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you think about it, there was a heavy share of
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Speaker 2: time on the field and carry between Zach charboneav Kinder
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Speaker 2: Walkerer Third and at times even you know, Zach Charbonnay
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Speaker 2: got the bulk of the work in games, and even
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Speaker 2: though kin of Walker Third may have been disappointed in
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Speaker 2: some of those opportunities win Zack Charbernet went down. You
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Speaker 2: can see the freshness that kind of Walker the Third
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Speaker 2: had in that second half run, you know, all the
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Speaker 2: way through winning a title that he probably wouldn't have
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Speaker 2: had had he been, you know, the the number one
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Speaker 2: guy most of the season, he probably would have you know,
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Speaker 2: broken down at some point, not gotten injured, but just
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Speaker 2: not as fresh. So it could absolutely work to your
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Speaker 2: benefit where you're taking some time off. It's the biggest
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Speaker 2: thing is just being in shape, man, being in football shape,
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Speaker 2: and that's hard to do when you ain't playing football.
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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin is with us part of our Seahawks one
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Speaker 1: series breaking down Zach Charboney. So theoretically, you know, Charbonnet
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Speaker 1: and Price are the new Charbonnet and Walker, but Charbona
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Speaker 1: is not going to be available for a while, as
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Speaker 1: we've already discussed. So what do you know about Emmanuel
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Speaker 1: Wilson and can he filled the Charbonnet role until Charbonnet
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Speaker 1: himself can fill it.
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Speaker 2: Well, he certainly has the skill set to do it,
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Speaker 2: and he wouldn't be on the team if there wasn't
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Speaker 2: an opportunity to kind of take that role. He does
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Speaker 2: have similar capabilities in terms of his physicality and being
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Speaker 2: able to get downhill. I think Jack Charbonnat is a
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Speaker 2: little bit more elusive in terms of being able to
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Speaker 2: make guys miss in space. But Emiliam Wilson does have
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Speaker 2: that ability to catch the ball out in the back
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Speaker 2: and he's got good hands. I wouldn't call him a
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Speaker 2: passing threat per se, but he's available there with the
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Speaker 2: check down. He's a disciplined player and so the only
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Speaker 2: thing you worry about with the manual is just the
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Speaker 2: consistency of production. You know, there are times in Green
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Speaker 2: Bay where it was like, oh man, this guy's got
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Speaker 2: a lot of potential, and then when they gave him
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Speaker 2: a larger, you know, a load of work. You know,
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Speaker 2: it didn't quite go so well from you know all
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Speaker 2: the time, and so you just hope some consistency bands
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Speaker 2: sometimes it change the scenery could be beneficial for you.
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Speaker 2: But he certainly has similar qualities to be able to
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Speaker 2: step into that role of Zach Charbagnat in the meantime.
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Speaker 1: You know this group, is there another running back that
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Speaker 1: you think is a sleeper in all of this for
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Speaker 1: carries this upcoming season, Somebody, Joe, you pick one from
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Speaker 1: the letter here that you think we might see more
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Speaker 1: from than what we are carrying on about right now.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be a lot of heavy competition. There
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Speaker 2: always is. Yeah, if you go around the league running back. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is about that position. Maybe
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Speaker 2: because there's only really one spot out there you know
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Speaker 2: that you could trust, But there's always so much competition.
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of fans, a lot of folks
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Speaker 2: really love George Hallani. He's one of those guys that
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Speaker 2: it just feels like every time he gets an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to play, whether it's on offense or special teams, whatever
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Speaker 2: it is, he shows up. Yeah, this is the guy
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Speaker 2: that consistently shows up. You know, obviously he doesn't have
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Speaker 2: the intangibles from a size standpoint, but that doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: Darren Sproles is one of the best running backs of
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Speaker 2: all time in my opinion, and he was like five
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Speaker 2: six or five seven, and so you know, Georgia Lyne
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Speaker 2: to me is another guy that I would look at
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Speaker 2: in that room and say, man, he could be a
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Speaker 2: big time player because of what he's displayed on film
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Speaker 2: in his history.
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Speaker 1: Robert Turbin is with us talking Zach Charboney here in
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Speaker 1: our Seahawks one series. So in the meantime, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we know we're gonna miss some time with Zach Charbonay
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines recovering from that acl What is it
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Speaker 1: about his game that you think that they'll miss the
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Speaker 1: most is running? Ability, blocking ability, leadership experience. What is
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Speaker 1: the thing that we're gonna miss until Zach Charboney gets
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Speaker 1: out on the football field.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's an underrated play maker. And that's
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Speaker 2: the thing that you missed with Kenneth Walker the third
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Speaker 2: It was just like you almost didn't know what was
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Speaker 2: going to happen every time he got the ball and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, boomed. You know, he's down the sideline,
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Speaker 2: you know, for a seventy yard touchdown or some Zack
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Speaker 2: Charberney has that same sort of playmaking factor to his game.
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Speaker 2: You know, you give him the rock, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: he's broken a couple of tackles and he's at the
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Speaker 2: third level in space, you know, with a chance, with
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Speaker 2: a chance to take it to the house. And it
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Speaker 2: feels like whenever the run game may have had a
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Speaker 2: slow start or not really going well, it was Zach
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Speaker 2: Charbonne who boomed, you know, broken tackling all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: the run game get it got sparked because of a
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Speaker 2: big run by Zach Charbonney. So he's an underrated playmaker
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Speaker 2: and I think that's what you'll miss the most while
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Speaker 2: he's out.
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Speaker 1: All right, Robert Turbin, great stuff, man, What do you
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Speaker 1: got planned for this summer? Are gonna do anything? Fun?
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Speaker 2: Well, we just won our flag football championship this past weekend.
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Speaker 2: My son is nine. I coached the team this year,
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Speaker 2: so that was a lot of fun, my daughters and
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Speaker 2: Dan and so we've got a couple of trips down
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Speaker 2: to southern California because she'll be she's fourteen going on
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Speaker 2: like thirty, but she'll be performing in some concerts and
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Speaker 2: stuff like that in southern California this summer. So we
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Speaker 2: got a couple of trips to support her and her
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Speaker 2: dreams and things of that nature. So a fun and
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Speaker 2: eventful summer coming up. I can't wait.
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Speaker 1: That sounds great. Turbine fan is gonna be busy. By
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Speaker 1: the way, your guy, Bobby Wagner got his doctorate apparently
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Speaker 1: once all his friends and family and others to call
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Speaker 1: him doctor Wagner. Are you gonna Are you gonna do that?
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna fall in line call him doctor Wagner?
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Speaker 1: From this point forward, I'm still.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him doctor b doctor b wag you know,
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Speaker 2: because I still have to. I still have to implement
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Speaker 2: the nick name. The nickname can't go anywhere, you know,
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Speaker 2: So doctor b Wags. That's how I'm gonna proach the situation.
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Speaker 1: Well you you do you, that's for sure? All right, man,
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Speaker 1: awesome stuff, Thank you very much. We'll bug you again soon.
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Speaker 2: All right, all right, man, take care?
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Speaker 1: All right. Robert Turbin joining us right here on Chuck
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Speaker 1: and Buck in the morning. Good stuff, good breakdown of
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Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnay there from Turbo and we'll do this again
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Speaker 1: tomorrow with our Seahawks one series once a day every
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Speaker 1: day throughout the month of June. Coming up next though,
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Speaker 1: we do have a baseball game to recap. And yes,
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Speaker 1: I know the catch, the drive and now the challenge,
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Speaker 1: the challenge that changed our lives. Plus Josh Naylor had
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Speaker 1: a pretty big influence on the game last night as well,
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Speaker 1: So we recap it with the Baseball Brunch next on
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Speaker 1: Sports Rate ninety three point three KJRFM. Time for the
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Speaker 1: Baseball Brunch. Our recap at eight o'clock recap of last
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Speaker 1: night's Mariners game. And it was a wild one, six
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Speaker 1: to three the final score. The Ms take out the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles. But I think it's fair to say, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't easy.
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Speaker 3: I think that's an understatement, Chuck.
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Speaker 1: I mean it got Harry at one point up and
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Speaker 1: sprouted hair.
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Speaker 3: I mean it was again stressful.
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Speaker 4: I said it earlier, I'll say it again, the most
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Speaker 4: stressful game I can remember with that large of a lead.
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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of different things were featured in this game,
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Speaker 1: including well Emerson Hancock got featured in this game as
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Speaker 1: the starter, we featured a lot of interesting bullpen decisions.
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Speaker 1: Randy a Rose Arena has Forgotten to run? How to
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Speaker 1: run the bases? That also got featured last night. But
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Speaker 1: I think today's show is starring Josh Naylor.
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Speaker 5: Lifted deep right field to Varis is lucky and it's God.
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Speaker 5: A grand slam for Josh Naylor, a five one Mariners lead.
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Speaker 1: Mariner's TV Aaron waited that hold us like, I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say it's gone until I know for sure.
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Speaker 3: He really wanted to make sure he stretched it out.
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Speaker 1: He waited till it was in that goofy looking Orioles
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Speaker 1: fans glove. Yeah, before he declared it all the.
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Speaker 3: Even then he probably was like, yes, yeh is.
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Speaker 1: The railing a home run the rail because he reached
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Speaker 1: over the rail. Grand slam for Josh Naylor in the
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Speaker 1: fifth inning kind of blew it open a little bit.
19:52
Speaker 1: At the time team built a five to one lead
19:55
Speaker 1: there in the fifth Emerson Hancock only went five innings.
19:58
Speaker 1: He allowed just one run, but he was up to
20:00
Speaker 1: ninety two pitches and I don't know, it just does
20:04
Speaker 1: not seem that this is what you do when you
20:08
Speaker 1: have a six man rotation. You've taken away a relief
20:11
Speaker 1: pitcher from your bullpen, and you're giving all of your
20:14
Speaker 1: pitchers an extra day off this week. As a matter
20:17
Speaker 1: of fact, they have had two extra days off because
20:20
Speaker 1: they had the off day on Thursday. And so if
20:23
Speaker 1: you're not gonna push Emerson past ninety two pitches and
20:27
Speaker 1: a six man rotation, when are you going to try
20:31
Speaker 1: and test our starter's endurance. But Dan Wilson opted to
20:35
Speaker 1: take Emerson Hancock out of the game. He went to
20:39
Speaker 1: Cooper Criswell for an inning and too much just to
20:43
Speaker 1: hear Matt Brash came in and was wild. I mean,
20:49
Speaker 1: he did not know where he was throwing the baseball
20:51
Speaker 1: last night. Matt Brash. Yeah, but he got a help.
20:55
Speaker 1: He got help from Johnny Parada and the new ABS
20:57
Speaker 1: Challenge system, the challenge of our lifetimes. Last night, Brash
21:03
Speaker 1: did not look like he was going to keep the
21:05
Speaker 1: Orioles from overtaking the Mariners in the seventh inning, and instead,
21:10
Speaker 1: on a three to two count, Johnny Parada challenges a
21:15
Speaker 1: pitch up in the zone and barely in the zone,
21:19
Speaker 1: gets it overturned to Pete Alonzo's chagrin, and that pretty
21:26
Speaker 1: much won the game, did it not?
21:27
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because that would have been such a difference
21:30
Speaker 4: maker to have the bases loader and you bring in
21:33
Speaker 4: a run. And I mean that that strike call, it
21:36
Speaker 4: was like by the seam of the baseball was the
21:39
Speaker 4: only thing that went over that line.
21:40
Speaker 3: And the look on Parida's.
21:42
Speaker 4: Face when he got it, because he has to challenge it,
21:44
Speaker 4: whether it is or not.
21:45
Speaker 3: In that moment, it was close enough. You have to.
21:47
Speaker 1: Whether he was right or not. That is a great challenge.
21:50
Speaker 1: That's how it's got to be used. And man, think
21:52
Speaker 1: about this, had Randy a Rose Arena pulled a Randy
21:55
Speaker 1: A Rose Arena and challenged a second inning ball call
21:59
Speaker 1: or strike call and it was right down the middle
22:02
Speaker 1: of the plate, we would not have had that challece
22:05
Speaker 1: because Parade had already missed one. And Parade is not
22:07
Speaker 1: very good at this Garver's grade at it, Cal's grade
22:09
Speaker 1: at it. Parade has not been very good at challenging.
22:13
Speaker 1: And so for him to at that moment recognize, I mean,
22:17
Speaker 1: that's the situation that you challenge in and situation to
22:22
Speaker 1: me is more important than anything, absolutely, And so you
22:26
Speaker 1: had one in your pocket. That was a huge moment
22:29
Speaker 1: in the game. Everybody recognized it, uh, and to get
22:33
Speaker 1: that clipped and he didn't know, he didn't know for
22:35
Speaker 1: sure if that was a strike risk. He took the
22:37
Speaker 1: risk because the situation dictated that it was worth the
22:42
Speaker 1: risk at that point. And they got it narrowly and
22:46
Speaker 1: Alonzo ends up striking out rather than walking. So that's
22:50
Speaker 1: six to two still at that point, and not six
22:53
Speaker 1: to three with the bases loaded and still one out.
22:56
Speaker 1: You now have two outs at that point. You get
22:58
Speaker 1: out of the inning. Brash not good at all last night,
23:01
Speaker 1: got saved by the challenge. It was the best challenge
23:04
Speaker 1: of our lifetime ever.
23:05
Speaker 4: And I hope that they made a big damn deal
23:07
Speaker 4: about it in the clubhouse after and said, now this
23:09
Speaker 4: is why we have to be careful about when we challenge.
23:12
Speaker 4: That was the perfect usage of a challenge at the
23:14
Speaker 4: perfect time, even if he wouldn't have gotten it right exactly,
23:17
Speaker 4: that's when you have to use it.
23:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, And man, think about how much this challenge system
23:21
Speaker 1: has changed the game. To have that moment last night,
23:25
Speaker 1: I mean, what were what did we do without this?
23:28
Speaker 3: I don't remember those days? Do we not?
23:29
Speaker 4: Has this not always been around so Brash pitchclock. They've
23:33
Speaker 4: always been there with help.
23:34
Speaker 1: Brash gets out of it. Bizarta was not good last
23:37
Speaker 1: night either, but kept the damage limited. And then Andres
23:41
Speaker 1: Munnos comes back from Sunday's failure and looked dominant last
23:47
Speaker 1: night for the save as tenth of the season, and
23:50
Speaker 1: the Mariners do win a game much closer than the
23:53
Speaker 1: final score indicated. Six to three is your final score.
23:57
Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock gets the win. He's now five and two
24:00
Speaker 1: the year, if that means anything to anybody anymore. And
24:02
Speaker 1: he also lowered his ERA last night to two point
24:06
Speaker 1: seven four. I mean, this dude's an All Star right now.
24:09
Speaker 1: They're choosing the All Star team. Emerson Ancock is on
24:12
Speaker 1: the All Star team. That's how good he's been so
24:15
Speaker 1: far this year. Here he was after the game with
24:18
Speaker 1: the noun visit with Johnny and Pete.
24:20
Speaker 6: Looked like there's quite a bit of communication going on.
24:23
Speaker 6: It's it's just a matter of getting on the same
24:25
Speaker 6: page about what you were trying to do there. Yeah,
24:27
Speaker 6: I mean, I think when you're in a big spot,
24:29
Speaker 6: in a big situation, like you need to know like
24:31
Speaker 6: what you were trying to do. And I just think
24:33
Speaker 6: all three of us, you know, we're on the same page.
24:35
Speaker 6: You know, we had the meeting before. You have a
24:37
Speaker 6: situation that arises in the game and you need to
24:40
Speaker 6: stick to that, and it's just got one iron trying
24:43
Speaker 6: to execute it. I mean, I thought tonight was just
24:46
Speaker 6: about our guys and our offense and just trying to
24:48
Speaker 6: keep him in there do everything. I could go out
24:50
Speaker 6: into a zero forest when we at the beginning, So
24:53
Speaker 6: that's off those guys. It's great defensive plays everywhere.
24:55
Speaker 1: To want to ask you about Mooney and these episode
24:57
Speaker 1: been going through. It didn't be able to get right
24:59
Speaker 1: back out there.
25:00
Speaker 6: It sounds back the way it just what can they
25:01
Speaker 6: do for him in his confidence?
25:03
Speaker 1: I just speaks to who he is as a player.
25:04
Speaker 6: I mean, this game is about, you know, responding, and
25:07
Speaker 6: tonight like a huge moment for him, you know, to
25:09
Speaker 6: put yesterday behind an account. Aaron had a huge say
25:12
Speaker 6: for our team and that's who Moony is. A means,
25:14
Speaker 6: a fighter's a competitor and there's nobody else out there.
25:16
Speaker 6: We want an idea. You know, you've had his back
25:19
Speaker 6: quite a bit this season and just some of his
25:21
Speaker 6: struggles coming games.
25:22
Speaker 1: That you've started.
25:23
Speaker 6: Why is it so important for you and the rest
25:25
Speaker 6: of your guys to continue to pick him up by
25:27
Speaker 6: when he scuffles. I mean we're a team, Like, we
25:29
Speaker 6: are a team. We are together. I mean there's gonna
25:31
Speaker 6: be nights where we have to pick.
25:32
Speaker 1: Each other up.
25:33
Speaker 6: And it's a long season and it's just about sticking together,
25:36
Speaker 6: continue fighting. And you know, when you know the guys
25:38
Speaker 6: behind you believe in you, it can help you in
25:41
Speaker 6: those moments out there.
25:42
Speaker 1: Oh the southern gentleman Emerson Hancock with all the words
25:46
Speaker 1: of the soothsayer.
25:47
Speaker 4: I just love when when he's asked, why is it
25:50
Speaker 4: so important for you guys.
25:51
Speaker 3: To pick him up? He's like, we're a team, Like,
25:53
Speaker 3: come on, man, why are you asking me that? Come on,
25:55
Speaker 3: can't you tell we're a team. We've got this, We've
25:59
Speaker 3: got each other.
25:59
Speaker 1: Well. I also loved that he had the back of
26:01
Speaker 1: Johnny Parada too. We're just making sure we're all on
26:04
Speaker 1: the same page. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, there,
26:07
Speaker 1: that's not what that exchange was. That was Pete Woodworth
26:10
Speaker 1: coming out because you needed to tell Johnny pareda with
26:13
Speaker 1: a witness to stop fing things up. So that was
26:17
Speaker 1: a one sided get your stuff together conversation, And I
26:21
Speaker 1: didn't think Emerson Hancock was even capable of that. I mean,
26:25
Speaker 1: if you meet this guy, I mean he's he's a
26:28
Speaker 1: sugar plumb. I mean, he's as sweet a young man
26:32
Speaker 1: as you're ever going to come across. Not named Andre's
26:34
Speaker 1: Munio's probably, and I didn't even know he had that
26:38
Speaker 1: kind of backbone in him. But he took on a
26:40
Speaker 1: veteran catcher and told him what's what on the mound,
26:44
Speaker 1: and whatever he did, he got Johnny to correctly challenge
26:48
Speaker 1: a call.
26:48
Speaker 4: Yes, so I think the challenge, actually, you know what,
26:51
Speaker 4: we gave the credit to Johnny goes to Emerson.
26:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe it got him on his game because
26:55
Speaker 1: he got he scared him stiff. So look at Emerson
26:58
Speaker 1: Hancock go all right? So what did we learn today?
27:01
Speaker 1: Kids in the baseball brunch? We learned that grand slams
27:06
Speaker 1: are helpful?
27:07
Speaker 4: Okay, my daughter Palmer, the great you know her, you are,
27:11
Speaker 4: she used to call them four run home runs. Yes, yeah,
27:15
Speaker 4: now she knows it's a grand slam. That was back
27:17
Speaker 4: in the day, but I still think of them as
27:19
Speaker 4: four run home runs from time to time.
27:20
Speaker 1: Also helpful, a four run home run. We also learned
27:25
Speaker 1: that in a six man rotation, you might have to
27:29
Speaker 1: ask your starting pitchers to go longer than you've customarily
27:34
Speaker 1: used or customarily used them. I don't quite understand what's
27:39
Speaker 1: happening with this.
27:40
Speaker 3: I thought I was half the point.
27:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, extra day rest, one fewer guy in your bullpen,
27:46
Speaker 1: so you go longer. So you might have to go
27:49
Speaker 1: a little bit beyond what they're used to, the ideas
27:52
Speaker 1: that you're giving them an extra day rest so they
27:53
Speaker 1: can go ten more pitches. Yeah, and see if he
27:56
Speaker 1: could have got through the sixth, especially when you put
27:59
Speaker 1: all of these bullpen obstacles in your path of guys
28:02
Speaker 1: that you don't want to go to and guys you
28:04
Speaker 1: absolutely can't go to. You had twelve outs to go
28:07
Speaker 1: last night, and then you ask Cooper Criswell to do
28:11
Speaker 1: more than what you've been asking him to do as
28:13
Speaker 1: of late, and he got into trouble versus asking Emerson
28:17
Speaker 1: Hancock to do a little bit more than he's used
28:20
Speaker 1: to doing. I thought that was the idea about the
28:22
Speaker 1: six man rotation, is that we would have the opportunity
28:26
Speaker 1: to push our starters a little bit further. That said,
28:29
Speaker 1: I do hesitate in questioning, like how they maintain health
28:34
Speaker 1: because they're do it better than anyone else in the
28:37
Speaker 1: entire sport with their pitchers, So obviously there's a method
28:42
Speaker 1: here that they subscribe to. But man, we seem to
28:47
Speaker 1: be having difficulty having a number enough pitchers to get
28:52
Speaker 1: the requisite twenty seven outs in a game, even though
28:56
Speaker 1: our relief pitchers are throwing fewer innings than any other
28:59
Speaker 1: relief group in the entire American league. That doesn't even
29:02
Speaker 1: make sense to me. And then the third thing that
29:05
Speaker 1: we learned here is that the challenge can be our friend.
29:13
Speaker 4: I mean, and that wasn't even the only great challenge
29:15
Speaker 4: of the day too. That was the best one. Yeah,
29:17
Speaker 4: but we also had the one that took away the
29:19
Speaker 4: run with the tag at second base by Bliss.
29:21
Speaker 1: That's true, I mean, yeah.
29:23
Speaker 3: We are the best in the world challenges.
29:26
Speaker 1: Here's a good idea for the whole team. Let's use
29:29
Speaker 1: them to our advantage.
29:31
Speaker 3: That's a great idea, like all the time.
29:34
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, maybe not just waste them early and stupid stuff.
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Speaker 4: Yes, but I don't know how to be right. We
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Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I'm not even there's no chance, and
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32:52
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33:38
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I would say, like, probably let's talk about
33:42
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33:45
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33:48
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33:58
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I can I can monitor that, I
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34:31
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34:33
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