AI vs. AI: Ocean's Fight Against Email Attacks

CyberBytes: The Podcast · May 22, 2026 · 16m

Shay Schwartz, CEO and co-founder of Ocean, joins us fresh off a $28M seed round led by Lightspeed to talk about the email security problem that's gone unsolved for years, and why AI has finally made it possible to crack it.Shay and his co-founder Oran spent years as nation-state operators building the exact attacks that today's tools can't catch. They started Ocean because they knew what a solution would need to look like, and they knew the technology to build it hadn't existed until now.In this episode, Shay breaks down why spear phishing has always gotten through, how AI has turned…