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NCAAB + NHL + NBA + NCAAF Bowls Best Bets 12/23/25 · Toadstool Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Inside, I want to kill myself. We're on Own seven
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  Speaker 2: run over the last two days after tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It was just complete bullshit. So that's that's I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start off this show horrible Sunday one and five. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what to tell you above that. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to do this anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I have never seen anything like this. Man with the
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  Speaker 2: slump continuing.
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  Speaker 1: Two straight losses, not a good day at all. Own four,
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  Speaker 1: I have not had a good season.
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  Speaker 2: Man with wookends the slump that I'm on, and the
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  Speaker 2: slump continues, I've reached a new peak. Actually, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to burn my browins hat man, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: is going on with the bruins arch hape?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I don't even know it's
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  Speaker 1: March ninth, I think who even knows? Man, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what day is anymore. But I don't even know what.
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  Speaker 2: Data is anymore. Man, back with you after the worst
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  Speaker 2: day that I could possibly have, Back with you as
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  Speaker 2: I always am.
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  Speaker 1: Until I die at least oh and two. Yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: yesterday it did not go well for me.
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  Speaker 2: Own five the worst month that I've ever had in
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  Speaker 2: my eighteen years doing this. I don't know what to
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  Speaker 2: even tell you about this anymore. The slumpy praise, the
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  Speaker 2: slump discontinuous, the slump continues.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody fucking kill me, please.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know what I should do at this
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  Speaker 2: point other than potentially end it all. What's up, everybody,
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  Speaker 2: It's towed back with you. Toadstool Sports, December twenty third.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Festivus, everybody. We got the Festivus poll ready to
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  Speaker 2: go right here. I don't really have any grievances to
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  Speaker 2: air here. It's mostly mostly feats of strength on the
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  Speaker 2: show here and from from the the teams that we
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  Speaker 2: that we had plays on yesterday three and a day yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: With the bounce back yesterday, UTSA, that line went up
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  Speaker 2: to ten and a half kind of worried me. So
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  Speaker 2: people that got on it later in the day got
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  Speaker 2: a better number and whatever. Either way, it didn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I think they lost by three. They were right in
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  Speaker 2: that game right at the end. They might have lost
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  Speaker 2: by two whatever it was. They were in that game
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  Speaker 2: at the end, man, so it might have gone into
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  Speaker 2: overtime as well. I'm not sure, but it was closed
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  Speaker 2: at the end. We won with Mississippi Valley State. Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, man, it's just one of those games where
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  Speaker 2: the line is just too high in West Virginia, like
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna have to get into the nineties to
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  Speaker 2: cover that, and I just didn't see them doing that
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  Speaker 2: or caring to do that. So Mississippi Valley State loses
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  Speaker 2: by thirty five and covers fairly easily. So how about
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  Speaker 2: that it was a wire to wire cover, baby. I
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  Speaker 2: think at most they were down thirty seven or maybe
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight, but so I guess a little bit dicey.
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  Speaker 2: And then the Columbus BJ's got it done for us
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  Speaker 2: as well, got out to a two to nothing lead
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  Speaker 2: and then wound up winning the game three to one.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll take that as well.
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  Speaker 2: The scoop the pot with the Blue Jackets money line cash,
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  Speaker 2: if you just went straight up money line, money line,
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  Speaker 2: puck line, whatever it all hit. Today, I'm being real
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  Speaker 2: selective again today.
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  Speaker 1: We have a few.
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  Speaker 2: Bowls today that these bulls are such a mess now, dude,
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  Speaker 2: I'm being unbelievably selective.
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  Speaker 1: With the bulls.
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  Speaker 2: It's way easier to handicap the playoff games because it's
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  Speaker 2: like a straight handicap rather than a gay one. But
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about these Bowl games today. The balls are
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  Speaker 2: a mess, dude, Like just with the transfer portal and
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  Speaker 2: everything else that's going on, it's crazy. Only one of
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  Speaker 2: the three games today is really a straight handicap, and
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  Speaker 2: that's like the game that I would have the strongest
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  Speaker 2: opinion on today, and I still don't want it. There's
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  Speaker 2: a huge NHL card and an NBA card because the
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  Speaker 2: leagues are going to be off for a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days except for the Christmas NBA games.
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  Speaker 1: But I only have one play over there too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have one college basketball play and one NHL
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  Speaker 2: play and that's it. I don't like the NBA board
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  Speaker 2: at all. Jeffrey, what's up? Thanks for hanging out, Stacks,
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on your show last night. I
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  Speaker 2: was on Stacks show last night, which is, uh, what
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  Speaker 2: is it called again?
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  Speaker 1: Shoot the shit? Shit talking? What is it called again?
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it was.
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  Speaker 2: I had fun on that show. You guys can hopefully
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  Speaker 2: go find that.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun.
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  Speaker 2: The Pelicans what did they What did they do? I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even see.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was happy with their performance when they
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  Speaker 1: beat Houston the other night. I was happy about that.
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  Speaker 2: Siana and Bethune Cookman bullet both coffered barely. All Right,
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: well that's good hopefully you uh, I don't know, got
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  Speaker 2: to bang Buffalo Wild Wings waitresses or something, whatever's going
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  Speaker 2: on over there.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get into it. Man.
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  Speaker 2: We have a small college basketball board today. I do
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  Speaker 2: have one play maybe one other slight lean here.
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  Speaker 1: And most of these games are just kind of lame.
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  Speaker 2: There's a game at noon between green Bay Doug Gottlieb's
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  Speaker 2: team he's out there throwing chairs and whatever against Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a game where if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the line, you're gonna think, like, what is going on here?
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  Speaker 2: Where Campbell's five and seven, green Bay six and seven,
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  Speaker 2: but Campbell's laying five and a half. I mean that
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  Speaker 2: should tell you right away. Oddsmakers are telling you Campbell's
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  Speaker 2: the better team. Yeah, they get some home court advantage,
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  Speaker 2: but green Bay also sucks on the road one in five.
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  Speaker 1: Campbell four and zero at home.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really have much of a situation
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  Speaker 2: to talk about here, but if I was gonna play it,
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  Speaker 2: I would probably lay it with Campbell. Green Bay did
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  Speaker 2: also actually beat you see Santa Barbara. I mean that's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty decent win there. I think Green Bay might
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  Speaker 2: have actually still been favored in that game at home.
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  Speaker 2: But you see Santa Barbara decent team.
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  Speaker 1: Campbell.
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  Speaker 2: They're coming out of a bigger couple of games against
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  Speaker 2: Gonzaga and Minnesota on the road, But I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect them to beat those teams.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't really close in either of those games. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really hate the situation for Campbell there either.
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  Speaker 2: The money looks like it's disagreeing. Campbell went up to
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  Speaker 2: a five point favorite, seventy one percent of tickets and
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  Speaker 2: only sixty four percent of the cash on them, so
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  Speaker 2: the money is saying otherwise. But my opinion would probably
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  Speaker 2: be to lay the points there. We got another game
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  Speaker 2: at noon between Binghamton and Army. Binghamton is just an
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  Speaker 2: atrocious team. They just lost pretty badly to Mercyhurst. Army
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  Speaker 2: is coming off I think something bigger than that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Army pulled up a little bit of an upset over UMBC,
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  Speaker 2: which I think UNBC was the favorite at home in
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  Speaker 2: that one, so Army maybe in a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a letdown.
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  Speaker 1: Spot of that.
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  Speaker 2: They're not exactly a good team, although they're laying a
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  Speaker 2: lot of points here up to eleven. The money looks
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  Speaker 2: like it is coming back on Binghamton. It's a low
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  Speaker 2: total in this game too, at one forty, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't disagree with taking the points with Binghamton in that
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  Speaker 2: one fifty five percent of the tickets on Army and
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  Speaker 2: sixty two percent of the cash on Binghamton.
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  Speaker 1: SEC network at one pm.
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  Speaker 2: Bell in Kentucky, I almost consider giving out a play
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  Speaker 2: on this. I think Kentucky is kind of in an
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  Speaker 2: iffy spot here, and on top of that, Bellerman is
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  Speaker 2: an in state little brother because Bellerman is in Louisville, Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, nobody knows who the hell they are.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure that's accurate.
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  Speaker 2: They've only been in Division one for a few years now,
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  Speaker 2: but Kentucky is definitely one of the games on their
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  Speaker 2: schedule that they're gonna try to get up for. Although
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  Speaker 2: obviously Kentucky's the way better team. Kentucky likes to play
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  Speaker 2: a bit faster, so that could throw Bellerman off a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. But do we really see Kentucky like totally
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  Speaker 2: showing up in this game and going all out for it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not so sure, Kentucky's coming off with two nice
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  Speaker 2: wins against Indiana, and then they beat Saint John's and
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  Speaker 2: knocks Saint John's out of the rankings.
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  Speaker 1: That was a nice win.
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  Speaker 2: I believe I had my leen on that one correct
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  Speaker 2: in that game. Nice win for Kentucky. And now they
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  Speaker 2: played Bellerman, which again, how much do they really care
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  Speaker 2: about this? They got the holidays coming up after this,
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  Speaker 2: and then coming out of the holidays, SEC play starts
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  Speaker 2: with Alabama. That is a huge game too, So this
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  Speaker 2: is basically a sandwich spot. Plus Bellerman is an in
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  Speaker 2: state little brother. Although Bellerman is atrocious on the road
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  Speaker 2: one in four Kentucky seven and one at home. Though
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  Speaker 2: obviously you're gonna be asking Kentucky to cover a giant
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  Speaker 2: number in this game if they're gonna actually try to
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  Speaker 2: cover this thing Bellerman. Though they're coming up a pretty
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  Speaker 2: nice upset win here against Chattanooga. They played pretty tough
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  Speaker 2: against Northern Kentucky the game before that, which is another
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  Speaker 2: in state big brothers in them, and Northern Kentucky is
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  Speaker 2: not that bad, so Bellerman. This is my hesitation with
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  Speaker 2: it is that Bellerman is playing like three kind of
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  Speaker 2: step up games in a row and coming off an upset.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would still lean to their side if
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna play this game, but it's not gonna
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  Speaker 2: be on my card. Kentucky has seventy one percent of
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  Speaker 2: tickets in eighty eight percent of the cash on them.
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  Speaker 2: For whatever reason, They're up to a thirty six point
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  Speaker 2: favorite in this one. But I would look to take
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  Speaker 2: the point with Bellerman again if I was gonna play
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  Speaker 2: at The total has increased up into the one fifties,
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  Speaker 2: very similar to the game. That actually is a play
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  Speaker 2: for me, which this number looks like it's going up
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  Speaker 2: and up and up, But we're gonna We're gonna take
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  Speaker 2: the points with Grambling plus thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Oh webs, I forgot best bets. Yeah, here we go, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my play in college basketball today is Grambling,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of a similar spot to the Bellarmine one,
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  Speaker 2: except I think I like this one better. I also
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  Speaker 2: think this line is a little bit out of control.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it keeps going up and I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: It's up to thirty and a half now from twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven fifty six percent. They get seventy five percent of
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  Speaker 2: the causal on Ohio State. I'm not gonna buy it.
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  Speaker 2: The total is all the way up to one fifty four,
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  Speaker 2: which does worry me a little bit. But Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: doesn't exactly play that fast, and I've talked about how
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State is not that battle tested, except yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: did look pretty good, and there are two step up
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  Speaker 2: games against Illinois and North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: But this is kind of why I want to.
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  Speaker 2: Fade them here, because they had a huge game against
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina and they almost pulled off the upset. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is a game that was I think tied with
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  Speaker 2: a minute to go, huge, huge step up game for
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State. They lost by one point. Now they play
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  Speaker 2: Grambling before going into the holidays, and after the Holidays
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  Speaker 2: they start Big ten Play or continue Big Ten Play,
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  Speaker 2: but they start like official Big Ten Play. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they only started with Rutgers. I know Rutgers is a
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  Speaker 2: horrible team, but still I just don't know what Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State's really gonna have after this run of games here. Man,
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  Speaker 2: After they played you know, they beat Northwestern in their
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  Speaker 2: conference opener, they played Illinois tough. They had a really
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: tough physical game against West Virginia that went double overtime.
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  Speaker 2: I believe I talked about that yesterday and then they
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  Speaker 2: had another huge game against North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just don't know what they have left
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  Speaker 1: in the tank here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really see them really having all this motivation
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  Speaker 2: to cover this number. And yes, I know, similar to
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  Speaker 2: what I said with Bellerman, Grambling is offul on the
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  Speaker 2: road one and six, Ohio State six and one at home.
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  Speaker 2: But Grambling, I mean there are somewhat battle tests at least.
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  Speaker 1: I mean some of their road games.
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  Speaker 2: They got blown out by Iowa State. We know how
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  Speaker 2: good Iowa State is. Grambling was actually fairly competitive on
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  Speaker 2: the road against Southern miss Tulane cal Baptist wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: that bad of a loss uc Riverside. I mean, Grambling
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  Speaker 2: is kind of hanging around in a lot of these games.
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  Speaker 2: And I know Ohio State is a beast. Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: well not a beast, but a different animal from the
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  Speaker 2: rest of these teams, except Iowa State is really the beast.
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State is definitely significantly worse than they are. But
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the big games on Grambling schedule, man,
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  Speaker 2: so I think they will show up.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, I know they did just win. Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: This historically black college tournament. Thing is they beat Hampton,
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  Speaker 2: which I was wrong about that game after they pulled
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  Speaker 2: off an opposite of Norfolk State. So yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they did do that. But are they really going
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  Speaker 2: to be in a letdown spot when they're facing Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State here?
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  Speaker 1: I don't really think so.
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  Speaker 2: And Ken Bomb basically has this line in like the
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  Speaker 2: low twenties, so the fact that this line is thirty
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  Speaker 2: and a half seems pretty ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know that you're getting some.
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  Speaker 2: Live value playing Grambling in this one, and that is
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  Speaker 2: what we're gonna do here. I know Ohio State is
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  Speaker 2: more battle tested now. Like I said, I was saying
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  Speaker 2: up until like recently that they hadn't played anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's no longer the case.
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  Speaker 2: But now because they did just play the biggest somebody
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  Speaker 2: that they played so far, pretty much, I think they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be in a hangover spot after that huge performance.
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  Speaker 1: So that's really the handicap there.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to be on Grambling plus the points
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  Speaker 2: in that one. All right, we got I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if I don't think I'm gonna talk about every one
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  Speaker 2: of these games. I mean, if you want me to
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  Speaker 2: talk about any of these other games, I will, but
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  Speaker 2: none of the rest of these games are really any
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: big games there is. I mean, the games are all
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  Speaker 2: throughout the day by the so you get some afternoon
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: basketball whatever, And then we do have Villanova and Seaton Hall.
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  Speaker 2: Was the only Power Conference game today. It's on Peacock
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  Speaker 2: tonight at seven pm. Two Big East teams going at it.
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  Speaker 2: They both play ugly and slow, so and under maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's worth a look in this game because because of
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  Speaker 2: the way these teams play, the totals up to one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty two and a half. The money looks
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  Speaker 2: like it's it's coming in on the over a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know if I would really agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: We know that both of these teams play super ugly.
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  Speaker 2: Villanova is coming off an overtime upset win of Wisconsin
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  Speaker 2: on a neutral That was a big win.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: This was in Milwaukee too, so it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a favorable location for Wisconsin. Wisconsin's falling apart. Man, I
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with them, but that was
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  Speaker 2: a nice upset win for Villanova. Now that you've got
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  Speaker 2: to come back and play Seaton Hall on the road.
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  Speaker 2: It is the conference opener. So I don't think Villanova's
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  Speaker 2: really gonna overlook Seaton Hall, especially because Seaton Hall is
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  Speaker 2: off to a good are, although as I keep saying,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Seaton Hall is that good. I think
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  Speaker 2: Villanova is the better team. Seton Hall does have a
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  Speaker 2: conference win already, They're coming off beating Providence on the road,
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  Speaker 2: and alright, win, but Providence isn't exactly good, So I
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  Speaker 2: still I worry about Seton Hall man as far as like,
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think their record is really indicative of
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  Speaker 2: what they are. Like They've had a couple of step
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  Speaker 2: up games. They beat NC State, they lost by two
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  Speaker 2: to USC. Other than that, not really battle tests like
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  Speaker 2: Kansas State is down, Rutgers is not very good, Providence
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  Speaker 2: is not very good. Villanova I believe it is the
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: more battle testing team really, just because they faced BYU
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  Speaker 2: and Michigan and they did beat Pitt and then they
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  Speaker 2: beat Wisconsin, still a decent win there, So you could
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  Speaker 2: argue Villanova's in a letdown spot for pulling off the upset.
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  Speaker 1: I see both teams.
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  Speaker 2: Showing up here, so I kind of start resorting to
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: like the numbers in a case like this, and I
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  Speaker 2: think taking the points does make sense here where it
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  Speaker 2: might be a low like you know, low score wearing
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  Speaker 2: ugly game, getting any points kind of makes sense here.
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  Speaker 2: Plus I think Villanova is the better team, so giving
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  Speaker 2: you know, having Seaton Hall laying two and a half,
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  Speaker 2: even though yes, you have to give them home court
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  Speaker 2: advantage here, I don't know. To me, I think the
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  Speaker 2: correct line is probably closer to the one one and
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  Speaker 2: a half sixty seven percent of ticket, sixty six percent
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  Speaker 2: of the cash on Seaton Hall. I would take the
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: points with Villanova on that one though. If I was
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: gonna play it all right, we have NHL here, I
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: am gonna have one play on this massive NHL board.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: We have big NHL and NBA boards. Man, I just
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: don't like what I see at all. We got Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: at Toronto to kick this off in the afternoon at
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  Speaker 2: four pm.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: We were correct with Pittsburgh on the show with that
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  Speaker 2: zig zag win over Montreal.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty nice win.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So I could see this kind of going both ways,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: like is Pittsburgh gonna be in a letdown off of
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: a shootout win over a pretty good Montreal team or
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: are they gonna have new momentum because they broke losing
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: streak there, maybe and carrying that momentum out on the
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: road sometimes is a good thing. Although it's just a
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: single road game before they celebrate the holidays. Toronto has
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: really been struggling recently. Toronto, they just got smashed by
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Dallas five to one. Although Dallas is really good, Toronto's
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: returning from a road trip, and you know, I talk
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: about I don't like playing teams returning home from a
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: road trips.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I'm basically never gonna do it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: It was a short road trip though they were only
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: on the road between Thursday and Sunday, but they did
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: go all the way. I mean, Dallas was the furthest
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: they went coming back home from that, you know, I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: mean overall, I think I do have to lean Pittsburgh
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: here because Toronto is technically still returning home from a
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: road trip. That can be a bit of a distracted spot,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: especially when you're returning home the holidays are coming in,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: you know, so the holidays I think can kind of
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: distract the home team a little bit more, whereas if
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you're on the road, you're not really thinking about that.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh may carry that momentum into this, even though I
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: could see the argument for the let down, but the
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: money the market, Reid says, Pittsburgh here, Toronto's down for
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: minus one fifty to minus one twenty eight. Eighty one
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: percent of the tickets is seventy seven percent of the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: cash on Toronto. Public being on Toronto seems wild to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: me because you'd think the public could be taking Pittsburgh
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: as an underdog with the better record. But either way,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh is probably the way that I would
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: lean in that one. Dallas at Detroit. Dallas obviously one
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: of the top teams in the NHL. They're coming off
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: that win over Toronto that I just mentioned. Single road
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: game here, going to Detroit before the holidays a little
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: bit of a weird spot that'd have to travel, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: just this single game where it's not really a road trip.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: But the situation for Detroit I think is worse.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Detroit's playing a third game in four days, and the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: other two of those games were both beating Washington. Those
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: are huge wins for Detroit. Now they shouldn't overlook Dallas,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: but it's more of a question of like, what does
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Detroit have left in the tank here? And they do
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: face line after this, and I think maybe they have
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit more attention on the conference foes than
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the out of conference foes. The money is saying Detroit here,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: but I kind of disagree with that. Dallas is minus
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: one thirty seventy eight percent to take a sixty seven
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash on them as the road favorite,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: so they're public. The money is seemingly coming in a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: little bit against Dallas here, But there's no way that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I could play Detroit after that run of games, after
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: they had the home and home sweep of Washington. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: think it would have to be Dallas or leave the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: game alone in that one, and you can see why.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You can start to see why I don't like this
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: board today. Rangers and Washington. The Rangers they just lost
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: on the road. Go figure the Rangers lost. Jeffrey had
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the under in that game, definitely correct. This is a
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: one nothing game. Like late in the game as well.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Rangers just won two lost two to one. Excuse me,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: they should be focused on Washington and the Rangers, as
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: we keep pointing out, there better on the road than
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: they are at home. They're coming up a pretty bad loss.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So the way this sets up, I don't know. I'm
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: probably not really gonna disagree with the Rangers in this one.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Washington is coming off those two losses to Detroit, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I think those are tougher losses. They do it to Vase,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: New Jersey and Florida coming out of the break. Maybe
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: they overlook this Ranger team. It's still kind of been
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: struggling most of the season, So probably gonna lean Rangers here.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But the Rangers look like a public underdog here. Eighty
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: two ticket seventy nine percent of the cash on them,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: not something I'm really gonna want to deal with. Washington
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: down from minus one seventy to minus one sixty five
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: on the money line. Osbeker's telling you Washington is the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: better team here.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: But again, there's no way.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That it's a game that I could get involved in.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Montreal and my Boston Bruins. This is an old school
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Original Six rivalry here. These these two teams don't like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: each other, like Montreal is one of the biggest rivals
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: of the Bruins. Montreal is coming up that home and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: home against Pittsburgh. The last game went into a shootout.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Now they get Boston, then they go into the break,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and then they have Campa Bay coming out of the break,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: which is probably a bigger game, Like, I think this
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: game means more to the Bruins, and the Bruins are
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: staying at home, and they've had an awful home stand here.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna want to try to salvage the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: last game of this home stand after losing three in
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: a row and losing six to two with Corpa.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Salo and Net.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: It will be swaying back in Net here, so they'll
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: get their better goaltender here. It would be Bruins or
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: passed for me in this one, and hopefully I'm right
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: about it as a fan, Boston up from minus one
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: twenty to minus one twenty one here. Public is probably
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: gonna be leaning towards Montreal because they have the better
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: record and getting an underdog with the better record seems tempting.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Seventy nine percent of tickets on them, but eighty nine
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash on Boston. So it does look
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: like it's kind of one of those pros versus Joe's
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: markets kind of setting up in that game. Got to
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: see what the market looks like as the day progresses.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would lean towards my Boston Bruins in
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that one, hopefully, I'm right, Pinzy. What's up man, Thanks
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: for hanging out all right, we have a Buffalo in Ottawa.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Both of these teams.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Actually, I was gonna say, I think both of these
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: teams are hot right now. Right, I'm pretty sure. Buffalo's
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: surprisingly won six games in a row.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: They just beat New Jersey.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: They are playing a third game in four days, all
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: in different cities, though, so maybe it starts catching up
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to them a little bit. Ottawa, though, they're also on
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a hot streak right now. Yeah, they've won four games
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in a row, including beating my Bruins. They're also playing
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a third game in four days, with two of them
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at home, but with a trip to Boston in the middle.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: There.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: They do have their rival Toronto up next, so that's
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be after the break. I mean, I don't know.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I could see Buffalo being in a letdown spot though,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: after a pretty big win over New Jersey. So I
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: don't like this game either. Really, so this game, I mean,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I would kind of just have to resort entirely to
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the market. Read here, and the market is saying Ottawa
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: seventy five percent take it's on Buffalo seventy five percent.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Of the cash on.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Autawa was sitting at minus one fifty five on the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: money line. I guess I'll have to agree with the
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Autawa side there looking at the market. But that's that's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a game that I really like. I have a hard
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: time forming any opinion on that game at all. New
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Jersey is going to the Islanders. So New Jersey going
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: up to Queen's here, New Jersey off that ugly home
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: loss to Buffalo.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe it'll be good to just leave and take.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: A short trip up to Queen's to play the Islanders.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Although they're gonna play Washington after this, but I don't
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna overlook the Islanders, especially after coming off
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a loss. The Islanders are on a three game losing
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: street now. They just lost to Buffalo. So both teams
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: just lost to Buffalo. The Islanders have had more days
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: off though to try to break.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: This losing streak. But being back a home.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Like I say, sometimes it is a bit of a
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: distraction because you have family stuff to get back to.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: A though of course New Jersey you could argue is
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: still home distracted here because really they're just taking this
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: They basically just have to drive like up to up
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to Queens for this as they really want to. Money
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: is coming out of New Jersey in this one. They're
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: off of minus one twenty to minus one twenty six,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: ninety one percent of the cash on them, sixty eight
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: percent of tickets are on the islander, So the odds
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: makers really disrespecting the Islanders. The odds makers are telling you,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: even without Jack Hughes, I'm pretty sure he's still out
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: that New Jersey.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Is the better team.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I guess I just can't disagree with it based on
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: looking at the market read. But a lot of times
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I will if I have a strong situational read, but
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: obviously in that game I do not. We got Florida
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: at Carolina, probably the big game of the day. This
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is a huge game. This is I think the best
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: game of the day here. Florida's starting to play better here.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: They did just beat Carolina, so it is one of
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: those kind of quick revenge spots. So though, really I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: think you consider it more of a zigzag spot because like, okay,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Florida just won in a shootout against Carolina. The team
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that loses has like the adjustment to make you know
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: what I mean, And Carolina is still the better team here.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So for those reasons, yeah, it makes sense to maybe
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: start looking towards Carolina. Florida did just lose ugly to
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis in the Hurricane Sandwich. That was a winner
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: for us on the show playing the Blues in that game,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: playing the Blues baby Florida. That did kill a wind
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: streak for them though, so sometimes losing a win streak
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: will hang you over into the next game.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: But again, I think that was a sandwich for a reason.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna show up for this game against Carolina.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Carolina should show up as well, because again it's against
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Florida and Florida did just beat them. Carolina has lost
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: two games in a row. They lost in the Florida Sandwich.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: They had a bigger game though, against Tampa Bay. And
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Carolina is technically returning over from a road trip here,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: although it was only a road trip that started on Wednesday.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: They only went to Nashville and then down to Florida
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to play both Florida teams, so it's not exactly one
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: of these really long road trip returns. But still, the
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: holidays could kind of become a distraction when you're at
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: home as well. Man, So I have a hard time
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: with this game as well, Carolina. You know, playing Tampa
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Bay in the middle there was a much more difficult
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: game than Florida's was against the Blues. So you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna kind of lean towards Florida in this game
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to win.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: The money I think is disagreeing with this one, though
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Carolina's up to minus one fifty one. They're kind of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: public though, seventy percent take us ninety nine percent of
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the cash on Carolina, So the money is kind of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: saying Carolina right now. But I kind of disagree with
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: it in that one, just the way that that spot
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: sets up. So I would lean slightly towards Florida again,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but not a huge jub Well, I actually lean to
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Carolina in the first of the two games, I think
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, Oh, Jack Hughes is back, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: get him confused with Luke Hughes Man. I don't know, uh,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: but anyway, Yeah, so Florida is my opinion in that game, slightly,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: but not a strong opinion at all. On New Jersey
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Devil's here.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: What have we got here?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just double checking my I think I'm losing my
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: mind here or something. Yeah, Luke Hughes. Let me see, Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Luke Hughes, the defenseman. Yeah, where's there's Jack Hughes.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Let me see.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: How long has he been back? Oh, he just came back.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: That's good to know. He just came back in that
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: game against Buffalo. Good to know, Thank you, Jeffery. So
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: that was I guess technically a reverse injured player spot there.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So maybe the Devils will do better you know, in
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the second game that he's back. Although I don't put
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that much into the injured player theory stuff in hockey
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: because again, an individual can't affect the hockey game as
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: much as in other sports, except for a goaltender. Nashville
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: at in Minnesota, Uh, all right, for this game Nashville,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I mean they're coming off nice win over the Rangers,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: ar a road trip, well, not really starting a road trip,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: because I think they're gonna have this single game at
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and then the holidays and then they.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Have a road trip after that. But they will be focused.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You would have to imagine they got some momentum. They're
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: going out on the road to face a pretty good
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Minnesota team, a team that's been hot. Minnesota did just
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: lose a long wind streak, and I talk about how
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: when you lose a win streak somebidys, it will hang
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: you over. It was a big game too against Colorado,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: and Colorado just crush them five to one. But I
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: kind of see this being more of a hangover spot
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: for Minnesota here after losing that wind streak, playing a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: really good team like Colorado, kind of getting sent back
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: down to Earth. I would lean towards Nashville here. You
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: could get get a decent underdog price on this one.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Minnesota is down for minus one nine one.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Eighty eight here.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Don't really see the percentages yet. I think Nashville is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the way to lean in that game, but obviously I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: have no play there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia at Chicago.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia just beat Vancouver in return home spot.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Still beat Vancouver five to two. That was yesterday, and now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: They're going to Chicago for one game before the holidays.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Very very weird spot.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Man to have to turn around after a home win
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: and go back out on the road for one game
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and then you're back home again. I don't know if
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I love that for Chicago. I mean Chicago, they're returning
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: over from a road trip. They've been on the road
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: since last Tuesday, they did have to go up to Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, they.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Did the Eastern Canada road trip. They're returning back home.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: They do have multiple days off to try to break
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: this five game losing streak that you're on and that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: they're on. And usually I talk about how having that
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: extra time off will help you snap that losing momentum.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, because it's a return home.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Spot, it's the holidays, they could get distracted potentially here.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And they do play Dallas next, which I think is
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be a bigger deal than playing Philadelphia. So I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: don't love how it sets up for Chicago. I don't
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: love it for either team. Philadelphia is public and the
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: money looks like it is kind of moving against them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Eighty seven percent of tickets and cash on them. They're
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: down for minus one twenty to minus one thirteen. Odsmaker's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: still telling you Philly is the better team over Chicago,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and I think both teams. Well, Chicago wasn't as good
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: as their record looked early in the season.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I still think Philly is.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Not as good as their record looks either. Really really
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: tough handicap in this one. It's a tough read I mean, yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I have to stay away completely. I mean I would
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: start kind of leaning towards Enno over in that game,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: because that's kind of what I do when I think
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: both teams are kind of in bad spots. But I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: want pretty much nothing to do with that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: The market read is slightly indicating to Chicago Utah Colorado.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I considered this game.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I kind of like Utah in the spot, and you'd
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: be getting them at a big price, Like you can
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: probably take the plus one and a half on the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: on the puck line here at a pretty decent price,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: almost like a spread bet for Utah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Utah did just play tough.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Games though, beating Detroit, close game against New j and
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: then they beat Winnipeg in overtime two days ago. Now
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they have this single trip, single game road trip to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Colorado before the holidays.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna overlook Colorado.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Though, you know, I mean, Colorado is the best team
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: in the NHL probably, so they're gonna be focused on it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: But I wire, you know, if they're gonna have that
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: much left in the tank, whatever, But I think the
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: spot is worse for Colorado again. Being at home right
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: around the holidays is kind of an issue could be
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of a distraction. Colorado just
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: beating Minnesota after beating Winnipeg, Colorado, you know, that's a
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: pretty satisfying win to knock down one of the hottest
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: teams in hockey, Minnesota and beat them five to one.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: And then after they played this middle in Utah team,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: they get Vegas after the holidays.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: That is a bigger game as well.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: So I think it's kind of a sandwich spot that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Colorado is in. I would look towards Utah and this
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: one Colorado down for minus two forty five to minus
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: two forty eighty eight percent of the tickets one hundred
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash. That's obviously not accurate. Again, yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I would, Uh, I would be leaning towards Utah in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: this one. And this one is almost on my card.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You can probably get, like I said, a pretty good
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: puck line price on Utah in that one.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Under in the Penguins leafs. I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I don't have good reads on the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: totals anyway, although I was good that one day with
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the totals. The money looks like it's coming in towards
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the over after the line did drop from six and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a half. Well, this wasn't really much of a drop though,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: from six and a half juiced heavily to the under
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: to six juice to the over. That's not really that
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: much of a move at all on that total because
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: they really just kind of shifted the juice a little bit.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And this is also a pre game, just kind of
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: picking whatever they think the consensus line is based on
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: all the different books, so that really isn't that much
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: of a move. It kind of looks like the money's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: somewhat indicating on the over in that game. And you
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: know me, I don't like Pittsburgh's goaltending at all. I'm
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: not really a fan of Toronto's either, so I don't
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: know that that kind of worries me. I mean, I'm
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm almost never on unders in hockey, you know me.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Although I was correct about that Dallas one the other day,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I don't like it though they've lost three in a row,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: given up four to four and five goals. Well, then
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: why would you want to Why would you want an
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: under then, other than the fact that you know that
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: you think that recency bias is affecting the number, but
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the total can't really move that much.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: This is a hockey total.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: They like they pretty much are forced to put it
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: in that range around five to six.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Like they can't really move it otherwise. So it's like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like fading the recency on that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: There isn't really a whole lot there as far as
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: like line value, you know what I mean. Yeah, the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Penguins scored four in the last game. Yeah, I just
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: think both teams just are not good at U it's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: stopping their opponents from scoring. Calgary is at Edmonton. I mean,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: this is a probably kind of a big game for
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: both teams. It's the Alberta rivalry. Calgary just beat Vegas
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: six to three. Kind of a ridiculous win for Calgary.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: There are they really gonna be in a letdown when
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: they're playing Edmonton though probably not. They've had a couple
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of days off. I don't think that's gonna really break
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: their momentum or anything. I mean, they're gonna be focused
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: on Edmonton regardless. For Edmonton, Edmonton's coming into this off
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: of beating Vegas. So both teams actually just beat Vegas.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Edmonton did it in a return home spot. Don't remind me,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: because that was a game that we lost on the
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: other day, pissed me off. Vegas actually kind of outplayed
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: them in the game to well. To a lot of
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: an extent, Edmonton got the win. Pretty big win coming
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: off of that, you know, maybe a little bit of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: a letdown spot for Edmonton. Slight opinion for me on
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Calgary in this one. Edmonton's all the way down for
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: minus one ninety to minus one, sixty ninety percent of
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: tickets on them, eighty four percent of the cash on Calgary.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna lean towards Calgary and that one not a
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: play though I don't want to touch it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Toronto will focus more on defense, that is true.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And when a team is when a team is allowing
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of goals, yeah, I mean that is an argument. Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: they will typically, yes, they will try to focus more
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: on defense after that happens.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: So I do not disagree with that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Next up is my other play, and I don't have
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: any other plays today, So best bet here we go.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: This is gonna be We're gonna go on the puck
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: line with San Jose. I found it at minus one eighteen.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you can find it in this range, maybe
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: minus one twenty. I mean, if you want to start
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: doing like a split bet like I've showed you in
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: other on other games. You could do that too, but
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: this is we're getting, you know, a larger underdog line here,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: so playing it as a spread bet. And then of
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: course it's hockey, so of course if you do it
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: like this, you gotta put like ten percent of the
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: bet on the money line as well. If you do
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: it this way, we're gonna be on the San Jose Sharks.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: We're gonna fade Vegas. Vegas is at home, and again
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I think you could have maybe a little bit of
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: a holiday distraction here for Vegas. But look at this
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: run of games that Vegas just had. Man, I mean,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: they're returning over from a road trip, so you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: But although it was a.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Short road trip that was just over the weekend, but
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: returning over from a road trip still you can fall
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: into a distracted spot. But they're playing a third game
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: in four days, all in different cities, which I don't
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: like it. Back on Wednesday, back at home, they had
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a shootout against New Jersey. They had an ugly loss
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: to Calgary, but I think they were looking ahead to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Edmonton and they played Edmonton. They didn't go away in
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that game against Edmonton. They were losing four to one.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I know because we lost some Vegas in this game.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And that was a huge game for Vegas because it
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: was also they're looking for playoff revenge because Edmonton eliminated
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: them last year and they came back and they teased
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: us by getting back to within one goal with like
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: several minutes left in the game and still fell short
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: by a goal. Huge performance from Vegas. They're in a
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: big emotional get up game. Now they're back at home.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: They got holidays to deal with here facing a mediocre
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: at best San Jose team that they did just beat
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: not that long ago that it was only four to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: three on November twenty ninth. And of course look who
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: they have next after the holidays, they play Colorado and Minnesota.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is definitely a sandwich spot.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And for San Jose. San Jose is coming off two
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: straight losses.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: We faded them with Seattle the other day. They're going
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: out on the road for one game and that might
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: actually be good for them, and they've had two days off,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: so they're the more rested team. They're coming off a
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: couple of losses, and I talked about how when a
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: team gets rest after a couple of losses, it will
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: help break that losing streak. The reason why we had
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Seattle against San Jose was Sandwich spot. San Jose had
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: played Dallas a tough game before that, and they had
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Vegas upcoming. So part of that handicap is that they
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: were going to be focused on Vegas.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I think they will be.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: They get to leave home for a game, short trip,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: go out to Vegas, focus on hockey, then do the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: holiday stuff after that. I like how it sets up
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a lot better for the Sharks here. That's what we're
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: gonna do. Vegas looks like they're taking some of the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: money right now, even though the line dropped from minus
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: two forty one to minus two thirty sixty four percent
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: of the tickets seventy nine percent of the cash on Vegas.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But we'll see what it looks like at ten pm
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Eastern when the game actually happens. I like San Jose
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to keep this thing close. We're on, We're on the
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Sharks on the on the puck line and that one.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, Vegas won about a month ago, which I.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Think that like revenge again is overstated, Like I don't
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: really think it's revenge that's really the thing. It's more
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: that Vegas is already in a bad spot here, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I just don't think San Jose is really the team
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: that is gonna like draw, like they're like one hundred
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: percent of their focus.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Uh So that's uh what I think about that. And
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: then we do have Seattle at LA to finish off
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: this huge hockey board today. We got thirteen hockey games
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and I think ten NBA games today. Uh, Seattle, they're
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: finishing a road trip. They just beat Anaheim yesterday, so
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: they're on a back to back. They're playing a third
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: game in four days, fourth game in six days, all
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in different cities. Fifth game and eight days, all in
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: different cities. That's pretty difficult to do. Nice road upset
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: win over Anaheim. Not loving how it sets up for
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Seattle here, even though we do keep talking about how
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: the Kings are not very good at home this year.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: The Kings coming off that lost to Columbus yesterday, that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: was a win for us. They were in the return
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: home spot, in a letdown spot also after beating Tampa Bay,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: so it was a spot to fade the Kings. We
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: got it right. So they're also on the back to back,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: but they're just staying at home. Of course, Seattle's really
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: only going up the road from Anaheim to LA, so
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: that's not that bad either.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: LA.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I mean they do face Anaheim, Colorado, Tampa Bay, and
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Minnesota twice coming out of the break.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Those all seem like bigger games to me than Seattle.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Even though LA did lose to Seattle on the road
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: on December tenth, I still think it is quite possible
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: they kind of overlook them, even though, yes, I know,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it's a second game back home, and usually I talk
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: about when a team returns home they do bad in
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the first game, Usually they do better in the second game.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't know.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, the money is saying LA in this one.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I know Seattle's in a bad spot. All that being said,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I guess I'll agree with it and lean towards LA.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But there's no way I'm gonna touch this game. LA
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: down for mine is two forty tons, two thirty five,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: sixty percent of the cash on them, sixty two percent
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: of tickets on Seattle. All right, NBA hate the board
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: in the NBA today, Absolutely despise it.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have anything today tomorrow.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Actually, this is a massive NBA board. I think it's
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: more than ten games. Whatever it is, it's huge. It's
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: all night games, and somehow I do not see any
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: spot that I like here.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: In all these games.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes you just gotta do it, man,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: know when to fold. Washington at Charlotte. This is an
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: ugly one. Washington just lost to San Antonio. Going back
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: out on the road for a single game against Charlotte.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you're Washington, you can't really overlook anybody.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know if this is
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: really the greatest spot from them.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: They did lose my double digits to San Antonio, so
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: it wasn't exactly close. Although I think do we get
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: the cover on that one with Washington on the show,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I forget. Charlotte actually played a closer game against Cleveland,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: coming to within seven of them yesterday on the road,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: So this spot is worse for Charlotte. They're playing a
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: third game in four days, all in different cities. They
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: got blown out at Detroit, played really close against Cleveland.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Cleveland is definitely struggling.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Though, with a lot of injuries and stuff, and then
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: now Charlotte back home, maybe getting into kind of a
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: distracted spot here. Maybe they won't focus on a bad
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: team like the Wizards. The money is coming in on
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the Hornets, but I don't agree. I would take the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: points with Washington if I was gonna play at Hornets
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: down from six to five and a half, sixty percent
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: of tickets ninety four percent of the cash on them.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: But I don't agree with that under in Pelican's.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Calves h, I don't know, I don't I don't have
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: much of a feel for that game at all. I mean,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that line has skyrocketed from two thirty seven to two
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: forty five, But the question is why, Like, why did
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: the line move like that? That wasn't all just market
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: activity on the over I wouldn't imagine, you know, So
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: like was there some player who wasn't expected to play
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that's now back, like Donovan Mitchell or something. I don't
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: know how that line would have moved like that, So,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, it could be in overreaction. So
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: maybe there is some value on the under there, but
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't want anything to do with that. Patrick,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: what's up man? Thanks for hanging out. Yeah, you two
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: have a great Christmas as well. Thanks for checking out. Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the show last night, Stacks, It was a fun show
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: last night.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Pelicans were forty in the fourth court. Yeah the Cavs.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really really ridiculous from three, That's true, So
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: there should be some regression coming off of that. Yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that Brooklyn at Philadelphia for this Brooklyn,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, Brooklyn's coming out of a pretty nice win
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: over Toronto. Man, they could be in a letdown spot
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: off of that. That was a big win, nice upset
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: win over one of the better teams in the East.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if they really overlook Philadelphia. Man.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're Brooklyn, You're a bad team. I think
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: you just kind of keep playing and keep focusing. For Philadelphia.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: They just beat Dallas, I mean, not really a great
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: win or anything, but continuing their momentum at the very least,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of days off could hurt their momentum maybe
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: They only play.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Chicago after this though, in Chicago's been struggling, so I
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's necessarily a.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Look ahead there.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Overall, I would lean towards laying it with the Sixers
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: in this one, their ten point favorite. Of course, always
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: with the Sixers, you gotta see who's actually in their lineup.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Although I don't even know if it really matters whether
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: it beads in or out. I think laying it is
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: probably the move in this game with the nets coming
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: off that upset win sixty percent of ticket, seventy eight
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash on the Sixers. Don't really have
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a whole lot else to say about that. Good night
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: last night, Thank you, sir. Oh A nice A nice lay?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Is that is?
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Is that a parlay? Thanks for hanging out again, Garrett?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Is what I meant to say. You had you had
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the straits, the straight people were all on the money.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: You mean that, you mean the straight bets that you made,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: So you had straight bets and a parlay. Nice night
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: there you go. Good nights all around here yesterday, So
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that's good. The nets Whisper, I don't know where's he at?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Wait, which which one is? The nets whisper against Sob.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Sob is in in Poland right now, so that's where
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: he is. Right, He's in Poland, so he should be around.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's at work.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, uh, because it's probably the afternoon where
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: he is right now, right, so he should be around
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: but probably at work, all right. Chicago at Atlanta, this
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: is a zigzag ish potential spot here where I thought
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Atlanta would win a cover yesterday and they did not. Jeffery,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised you're not going to play the under in
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: this game. Chicago and Atlanta combined to score to score
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: three hundred two points last night in regulation. In this game,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two to one hundred and fifty
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: was the final, and no, that game did not go
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: into overtime.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Chicago is known for playing a fast pace, but I mean,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. Chicago got the win, the upset win
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: as well, So it could be a bit of a
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: zig zag spot where maybe you want to look to
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: lay the points of Atlanta here off of that, because again,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you want to fade whatever the outlier was usually though,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of course, the major outlier there was the fact that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: game was unbelievably high scoring. The total is at two
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: fifty three year But I don't think I want to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: do I don't think I want to fade that though,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: like I mean, yeah, I mean, it looks like you
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: should fade that sentiment. But the number is, this is
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: one of the highest totals you'll ever see in the NBA.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And when it's that high of a total, I don't
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: want to go under it because it just still looks
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: too easy to go under it.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Because the total is just.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: So unbelievably high. Here, I wouldn't do it, to be honest.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: We have fifty percent of tickets on the under, ninety
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: nine percent of the cash on the over. Yeah, I
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. The Hawks are getting a little bit
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: more value. They were like a five to five and
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a half point favorite yesterday and now I think just
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: because of last night, they were a four point favorite.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Now the money's coming back in on the Bulls. But
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't agree. I would lay it with the Hawks
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: if I was gonna play it. Fifty three percent of
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: tickets on the Hawks, fifty seven percent of the cash
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: coming back on the Bulls. Uh. The one other thing
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: to be concerned about with the total is that if
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: both teams are running up and down the court that fast,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have like really tire defenses, and that worries
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: me as well.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Like this game can go over the total without.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Even getting close to as extreme as it was last night,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: So I'd be worried about that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: The total is that high for reason.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: The only other time I can remember being an NBA
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: total being that high was last year.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: It was a game between like Memphis and who was it.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I forget who it was.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: It was definitely Memphis. I forget who the other team was.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: But I was like, no, it's gonna go over because
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: there's a reason why the totals that high, and it
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: still went over.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. New Orleans at Cleveland. New Orleans
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: seems to have some new life here. They're starting to
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: play better.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, they weren't as bad as that three and
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: twenty two record, look man, and now they're a little
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: bit healthier. Uh, they're on a nice little role here,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: but they aren't a back to back having to travel.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Up to Cleveland for one game here. They beat Dallas yesterday.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna overlook Cleveland. I don't think though,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: when you're in New Orleans, you're not really gonna overlook anybody.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: But Cleveland is still known as one of the better
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: teams in the Eastern Conference. You know, Cleveland coming on
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: a win over Charlotte. That wasn't a great win though,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: that was also yesterday. They're staying at home, but they
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: do have kind of a major look ahead to the Knicks.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: They play the Knicks on Christmas, so again, today's the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: day where you gotta look at the Christmas look aheads man.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm actually shocked that I don't like any of
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the games today, but I don't. I don't want to
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: come in and play New Orleans in the spot because
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Cleveland's coming of a bad performance New Orleans, you know,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: both teams were in the back to back. New Orleans
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: has travel. I can't do it. The money is actually
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: kind of indicating on Cleveland for now. They're at nine
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and a half, sixty percent of the tickets, sixty five
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash on them. You got to see
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: who's in and out for Cleveland though, because they've had
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of injuries this year.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Mobley has been out for a long time, which does
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: hurt their deeppense.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It looks like basically everybody else is pretty much back
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: for clean of them, though, I mean they're without Nance
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: and Strew still, but like most of their big players
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: or most of their like big name players are playing tonight, though,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Will the coaches tell the teams to go nuts again?
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's more that, like, I don't.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Know if the defenses will totally show up in that game,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: especially especially leading into the holidays.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm Milwaukee at Indiana.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: One of you guys, are the chats that you that
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: you wanted Indiana in this spot?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I I don't. I mean, I don't want. I don't
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: want Milwaukee either. Milwaukee's coming off playing at Minnesota really close.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: They had a close game against Toronto on Thursday, then
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Minnesota on Sunday. They almost pulled off the upset on
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: the road. Now they're going to Indiana. But look at
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the spot that Indiana's in. I think it's even worse
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: than the spot that Milwaukee's in. Indiana played in Boston
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: last night. They're playing a third game in four days, all.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: In different cities.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: And if you saw what they did in Boston last night,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Indiana was winning that game in the second half by
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: like twenty points. The Celtics literally packed it in. They
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: were like, we're not gonna win this game. And the
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Celtics put in all their backups, and the backups won
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the game pretty much for the Celtics, and then when
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the Celtics got close again and the Celtics were like,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: oh shit, we can win this game, and they like
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: put Jalen Brown back in, and they put their starters
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: back in and they won the game. That is a
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: brutal loss for Indiana, dude. They should have had the
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: win against the Celtics.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It would have been a huge win. Now they're on
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the back to back coming off of that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I hate the spot for Indiana here, and it's a
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Celtics sandwich. It's a nice corn beef Irish sandwich here
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: because they got the Celtics again on Friday. This is
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: an unbelievably bad spot for the Pacers, dude. The problem
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: is I don't like the spot for Milwaukee either, so
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I just can't do it with either team.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: A Milwaukee is up from a pick them to a one,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and it might just one and a half.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Here, fifty percent of tickets on them, sixty seven percent
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: of the cash coming back on the Pacers. So the
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: market Reid is saying the pace there is a hilarious
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: total here that's like almost fifty points lower than in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: that forty points lower excuse me, than it is in
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: that Bulls Hawks game. Both these offenses struggling.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got Giannis know that not there for
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the Bucks, Haliburton, not there for the Pacers. But I
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: mean I kind of have to lean to the Bucks
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: in that game or pass the spot. Is just that
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: bad for the Pacers, man. But it's not good for
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: either team. So it's a complete stay away in my opinion.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I mean again, I mean, I don't I don't want
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: to tell everybody what to do, you know what I mean.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you how I look at it. I'm telling
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: you what I do.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I've been doing well recently, so if you want to,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: you know, just follow me, obviously do it, but also
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: of course do your own handicapping.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Although I get like stubborn and start disagreeing with people.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean people might see something that I
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: don't for sure because I just see things a certain way.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: And that's about it, you know. All Right, Toronto is
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: playing Miami. This is a pretty big game Toronto coming
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: off that ugly loss Brooklyn. They got blown out by
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Boston the game before that, Toronto should kind of be
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: in a bounce back mode here. You would think Miami
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: remembers without Tyler Hero again. He got hurt again fairly recently.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Miami's in I think a tougher spot because they're returning
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: over from a road trip that they've been on since
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: only Thursday though, and they stayed on the East coast.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: They just went up to the northeast. So it's not
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: exactly the worst road trip return spot, but it is
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: still a return home and it's going into the holidays,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: you know, so it could be difficult, could definitely be
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: a distraction spot.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Miami's coming off that game.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Where they were really close to the Celtics until the
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Celtics exploded in the fourth quarter. Celtics playing some really
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: nice late game basketball recently, so that was kind of
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: a brutal loss. And then Miami turned around and played
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: close against the New York Knicks on Sunday and fell
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: just short again. Now they get Toronto and up next
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: they got Atlanta. I don't know if it's really gonna
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: be a look ahead to Atlanta, but man, I mean,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: well no, so the issue is right, So Hero is
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: actually out now. Hero, I believe played against the Knicks,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: so I think he's injured now because I'm like, wait
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: a minute, why did I not want Toronto here because
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I think Toronto is the right side in this game.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: But the problem is the Heat are kind of in
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: an injured player spot here because Hero got hurt in
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the game against the Knicks, so he's this is his
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: first game out again since coming back, so the team
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: might step.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Up their game with him out, you know what I mean.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: So I worry about that part of the game here,
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: so I'm staying away. If I was gonna play it,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I would take the points with Toronto though eighty one
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: percent of tickets, eighty four percent of the cash on
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the Heat, they're up to a five and a half
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: point favorite. Again, still lean to Toronto in that game
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: for me, though. Denver and Dallas is gonna be the
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: first of the doubleheader on NBC and Peacock Denver, I mean,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Denver's one of the better teams in the league, and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of course they could be in a spot where they're
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: looking ahead to playing Minnesota on Christmas because that's gonna
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: be that big televised ESPNA know this is also a
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: televised game, but it might mean a little bit more
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: to Dallas. Denver's on a back to back. They're coming
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: off a blowout game against Utah, and they have this
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: one weird travel spot now to Dallas.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: It is kind of a weird spot for Denver. Man.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Dallas is coming off a loss in New Orleans.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty ugly loss that was also yesterday though,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: So Dallas is playing three games in four days, all
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: in different cities, and they also play on Christmas against
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Golden State. But Dallas is not going to overlook Denver
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and they're coming off an ugly loss at the Pelican.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: So I think the only way that you can look
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: at this game is to take the points with Dallas.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: But the money is saying otherwise. Nuggets are down from
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: seven to six and a half, but they got sixty
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: six percent of the cash on them, sixty two percent
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: of tickets on Dallas.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to either side here.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Again, I'm trying to be really selective here, but I
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: would lean to Dallas if I.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Was gonna play it, but I can't do it.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Then we got Knicks Minnesota, which I still considered to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: be like the the Randall Kat trade battle here, which
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: that happened a couple of years ago. Now though the
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Knicks are coming off that win over Miami, decent win,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: even though I think the Knicks were the favorite at
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: home there, so they didn't win by that much. Now
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: they go on the road to face Minnesota, and they
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: do have Cleveland to kick off the Christmas slate on ESPN,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: as I said, probably a bigger look ahead for Cleveland
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: than it is for the Knicks, though, because Cleveland hasn't
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: been playing that well.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Will the Knicks overlook Minnesota? I don't know. I mean,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: they are a Western Conference team.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It is kind of a weird spot for the Knicks
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: to have this one game travel spot out to Minnesota
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: before playing on Christmas. Minnesota just barely got by Milwaukee.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: And remember I said that was a sandwich spot because
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Minnesota had been Oklahoma City the game before that monster
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: win there barely got by Milwaukee. I thought they'd be
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: looking ahead to the Knicks, and then they have Denver
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: on Christmas, though, So will they overlook the Knicks because
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: they have Denver on Christmas?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Because part of that handicap was they're going to be
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: focused on the Knicks as well.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: So I think the t Wolves are the right side here. Now.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: The public is all over the Knicks, sixty four percent
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of tickets and only fifty eight percent of the cash
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: on the Knicks. So the t Wolves are an anti
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: public home favorite. And you know, I like anti public
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: favorites because you're getting to lay points, usually a small
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: number with a good team, so you know you're backing
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: a good team. Now, the problem with that is part
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: of the reason why the public is coming in on
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: the Knicks. Because the t Wolves are up to an
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: eight and a half point favorite. Well, why, like, there's
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: no way they would be an eight and a half
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: point favorite without some significant injury for the Knicks. Well, yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that is what's going on. Brunson is not playing in
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: this game for the Knicks.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Brunson.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more of a like a
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: rest thing to get him ready for the Cavs game
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: on Christmas. But Brunson is hurt and he's not playing
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: in this game. I can tell you that. So technically
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: it does set up as an injured player spot for
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: the Knicks where they're getting more value on the line
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: now and they might have a bigger effort just because
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: they know Brunson is not in the lineup.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: We also don't really know the status of.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Anonoby, so I don't know there's some things to look at,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: like prior to this game happening, I would say. Now,
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: the other thing that worries me is the team will
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: still have not done well like stepping up in class,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: although they are playing better recently. I know they beat
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, so I mean that's as good as it
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: gets beating them. But prior to that, they only had
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: two wins against winning teams all season, and one was
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: as a favorite against Boston at home where they didn't cover,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: and the other ones against San Antonio without Wemby. So
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Minnesota has not done well playing against winning teams this year.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: So that does worry me as well. So I have
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: to just stay away, man. Unfortunately, I know it's a
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: lot of stay away saying. Now, Oklahoma City at San Antonio.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: We remember the last time Oklahoma City played San Antonio,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: San Antonio bounced Oklahoma City from the NBA Cup semi finals.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: It pulled off that upset, so Oklahoma City might have
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: this game circled just because of that. Oklahoma City did
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: just bounce back with an easy win over Memphis. I
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: think they did wind up covering barely at home. Now
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: they aren't a back to back though, having to travel
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: to San Antonio and they play San Antonio again on Christmas,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: which sets up as a potential zig zag scenario depending
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: on what happens here today. But I still think they
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: show up for this man, because again san Antonio is
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: the team that bounced them from the cop not that
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: the cup matters that much.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: San Antonio is going to show up as well, though
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: of course they're playing the Thunder.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: San Antonio is coming on of an easy win over Washington,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: they are returning home and again returning home for the
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: holidays maybe an issue, And of course they have to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: go out on the road on Christmas, so san Antonio
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: might have to get some Christmas stuff done now while
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: they're at home, so it could be a bit of
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: a distraction for them for that reason. So overall, I'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: going to lean towards the Thunder in this game. They're
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: down for six and a half to five, though the
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: money kind of coming into the Spurs fifty three percent tickets,
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: fifty eight percent of the cash on them. But you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is kind of a short
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: line on the Thunder here.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I mean the Thunder.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: We're ten and a half point favorite in Vegas on
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: a neutral and like what has really changed now unless
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: there's some injury on the Thunder, Like teams in it
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: in the NBA do not get that much for home court,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: and like the strongest home court in the NBA is
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: probably like two points at most. So if the Thunder
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: were ten and a half on a neutral and I
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: know they lost that game, like them being a five
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: point favorite, it seems like there is some value on
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: the Thunder. On this line, it does seem a little
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: bit short, like kind of based on what's happened more recently.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Got to look at the status of Wemby.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Of course he's a game time decision, but I think
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: the line is basically indicating he is playing. There are
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of game time decisions for the Thunder here,
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: mostly home Grin and Hartenstein.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: They're gonna need those guys in there.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: So that they have the size and I guess Caruso,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: but they're all same time decisions.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: It's gonna depend on how much Oklahoma City wants this
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: game versus the Christmas one, I think, so we'll see.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: But yes, whatever happens in this game, you might want
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to zig zag in on Christmas. If San Antonio wins
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, see money line on Christmas. Yeah, but
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be at Oklahoma City. The money line is
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be like minus nine hundred probably.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Or worse.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: So Oklahoma City should be like a twelve point favorite
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: in that game on Christmas at home. So yet I know,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: I mean I would lay the points with Oklahoma City
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: in that game. If San Antonio wins this game, I
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: think laying the points with the Thunder on the Christmas
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: game makes sense.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: What's up, Zach?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Jesus married Joseph in the Talking Wallnut? Yes,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: then that's the Nativity? Yes, all right? We have a
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: LA Lakers at Phoenix here. Seems like these teams have
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: played a lot recently. These teams have played twice recently,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: and Phoenix beat LA by seventeen at LA and then
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: LA got revenge winning on the road by two. But
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Phoenix has kind of had the upper hand in this matchup.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: The problem is the Lakers have had two days off
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: and they're coming off a horrible loss to the Clippers.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't get much uglier than that, so
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the Lakers should be in bounced back mode here. However,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: they do face Houston on Christmas. But I don't really
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: know that they're gonna overlook a Phoenix team that's been
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: playing pretty decent.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Phoenix, you know they're gonna show up as well.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Phoenix did just lose to Golden State in the back
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: to back scenario there or two straight games against Golden State.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I should say, both close games, big games. I mean,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Golden State has curried back whatever. Now Phoenix is back
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: at home for this, but they get to play this
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: and then they go out on the road and they
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: face the New Orleans. So I think their focus will
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: be on this game against the Lakers here. So I mean,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: how do we hand you can at this? The money's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: all coming in on the Lakers. But also there's a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: reason why the Suns are favored like this throughout, from
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: a five point favorite to a six point favorite. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: remember Reeves didn't play in that game for the Lakers
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: against the Clippers, although they shouldn't have lost horribly, sixty
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: percent of the tickets are on the Suns. Surprisingly, seventy
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: eight percent of the cash coming back on the Lakers.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: There's gotta be some injury for the Lakers here for
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the Suns to be favored by this much. Yeah, it
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: looks like Luca is now out, so Reeves might come back.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: But Luca is now out, He's estimated to return for
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: the Christmas game. You know, I think you gotta play
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the Lakers plus the points here or leave the game alone.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're still coming off a disgustingly bad loss,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: and they might step up their game with Luca out.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: It becomes like the injured player theory spot because I'm
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: pretty sure he played in the previous game, right, So
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's the way I would look at the game.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Let me say Luca Reeves.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Is still out, by the way, and so is Hachimore,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. It gets a little bit more
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: concerning there. Actually still Reeves is a game time decision.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I think he might actually come back. He's questionable, so
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I think he'll play if he can. Luca is definitely
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: out though, and he played. He it looks like he
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: did get hurt or they just pulled him from the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: game against the Clippers because it was becoming out of hand.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: And then for Hatchi Moura, he's not playing in this
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: game either, so I don't know's it does make it
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: a difficult handicap but I do think the line has
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: kind of overreacted to all those injuries. So still probably
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: towards taking those points with the Lakers, but the public
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: doesn't even look like they want it with all the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: injuries a Memphis at Utah and with what the Lakers
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: looked like in the last game Memphis at Utah. Memphis
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: coming off the loss at Oklahoma City. Now they go
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: into elevation with no days off. They're playing a third
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: game in four days, having to go to Utah, but
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: they only have Milwaukee after this is not exactly.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: A huge look ahead spot here.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: They weren't that close to Oklahoma City in their last
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: game either for Utah. Utah got blown out by Denver
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: in their last game on the road that was yesterday
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: as well, so they were returning home off of that,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and then they do have Detroit on Friday, so maybe
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a sandwich here in. Utah did
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: go into Memphis and beat them back on December twelfth,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: which I don't remember if that was a game that
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I gave out on the show or not.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Probably wasn't, but I don't know.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Utah is coming up the uglier loss in the last game,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: but still travel back to back, big game.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Up next as well. I don't know.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of looking like Memphis might be
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the right side in this one.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Grizzlies are from two and a half to three and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: a half.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Is a road favorite, fifty percent of tickets, fifty eight
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: percent of the cash on them. I'm not really going
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: to disagree with the Grizzlies, but again, I don't want it. Unfortunately,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I just don't see anything that strong in the NBA today. Man,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: even with all these games, Orlando is at Portland.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I think I was wrong about that game yesterday.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: Orlando got absolutely wrecked by Golden State in that game, Orlando,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're just not holding up with this really
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: injured roster they have right now.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Now they're on a back to back and they're playing
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: a fourth game in six days, all in different cities,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: which is pretty brutal. Although you think they should bounce
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: back from such a horrible loss yesterday, Portland just lost
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: to Detroit. That was a fairly close game. Losing to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Detroit yesterday. So they were also on a back to back.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Staying at home makes it a little bit easier for them.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: But so that was a big game against Detroit and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Orlando might come into this a little bit angry at
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: the very least because of how that game went yesterday.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: A lot of things to look at with the injuries.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Wagner is still out for for Orlando.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: They might get Sugs back, so you gotta pay attention
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: He didn't play against the Warriors, so we'll see if
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: he comes back. Of course, that will obviously help Orlando
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: if he comes back, and I don't think it really
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: will put them in a reverse injured player spot. Grant
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: is somebody to look at for Portland. It looks like
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Drew Holiday will not be coming back yet for the holidays.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Jeremy Grant, we gotta look at what's going on with him.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: He didn't play against Detroit, so we'll see what happens
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: with him. He's one of the better players on Portland.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: The Magic are down from a three point favorite to
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: one and a half point favorite, but it looks like
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: they are getting some of the money. Sixty takes seventy
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: three percent of the cash on the Magic. I would
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: lean that way. I would lean towards the Magic in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the game just because the loss that they had yesterday
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: was just that bad. It just looks awful, like nobody's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: gonna want them. So, yeah, Portland doesn't really have a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: point guard good point, good point ah without yeah Holiday there, Yeah,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't even know who else they have
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: that runs point. We got Detroit at Sacramentum. Detroit did
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: just kind of escape. That game against Portland wasn't a
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: good game for them. That was yesterday though. Now they
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: have to travel down to Sacramento. But they don't really
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: have any big games after this, so Detroit might show
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: up for this.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Game, even though it isn't back to back.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: A lot of back to backs here, no back to
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: back for US Sacramento, but they're coming off that upset
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: of Houston, which that was a win for us on
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: the show, one of my huge underdogs that won outright
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Those have been happening recently for us on the show.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Huge win for Sacramento, So in a way, yeah, it
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: is a letdown spot, but they're playing Detroit, so they
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: still might show up for a game against Detroit because
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: we know Detroit is good and that game did break
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: a losing streak for Sacramento, so usually that is a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: good thing.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: But Sacramento did just lose to Portland twice.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know it's gonna look maybe easy to play
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Detroit because Detroit still just did beat Portland. But still,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I think the big factor here is that Sacramento is
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: in a spot. I mean, in overtime win over Houston.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Doesn't get much better than that as far as like
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: wins are concerned. And this is still a Sacramento team.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: It's without some bonus. You know, things are not going well.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: The money is saying to fade the Pistons other down
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: from nine to eight and a half. Here seventy nine
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: percent of tickets, only seventy percent of the cash on them.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: So the market read to Saint take it with the Kings.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I struggle with that game again. Man, I don't want
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: any of this today. I mean, it's ridiculous how bad
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: this board is today. The second game, I forget if
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: it was the second or the first game Sacramento Portland.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: One of the games was way overscoring than the other.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was, yeah, the second game, right, was way overscoring.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: The first game was unbelievably highest scoring. So there was
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: a total zigzag that happened there where. I think both
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: teams must have just fixed shit. On defense and focused defense,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: or maybe the first game was like a major like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: shooting outlier Sacramento.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: With all these injuries, they're not really.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Scoring a lot, and really Portland doesn't have a great
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: offense either right now. But yeah, that Detroit Sacramento game
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: is difficult, and then we do have Houston at the
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Clippers to finish this off. Now, this one is close
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: because you look at the situational set up. Houston just
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: lost to Sacramento, so they should be in a bounce
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: back mode here. The problem is they're playing a third
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: game in four days, all in different cities, fourth game
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: in six days, all in different cities, and they have
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: to play the Lakers on Christmas, which is a pretty
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: major look ahead spot. So I do worry about that
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: and the fact that they're already gonna be in LA.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: It's like the big event is really the Christmas game.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: So I worry that maybe Houston doesn't bounce back immediately here.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: But the Clippers, they got to be in a letdown
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: spot here because they just beat the Lakers, even though
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: it was without Reeves, huge win and now did break
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: a losing streak, so sometimes that will give them give
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: you new momentum here, and I don't think they're gonna
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: overlook the Houston Rockets really, so I have a lot
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: you know, there are a lot of things going on
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: in this game too where I can't play it because
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: on the surfaces, it's like, well, Houston just.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Lost as a big favorite.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: The Clippers pulled off a big upset, so you want
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: to look towards Houston for those reasons, right, But there
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: are all these other things coming into play where that
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: might not be the case. And again, the Clippers still
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: might get up for a game against Houston. So and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: the Clippers don't play on Christmas. The money is saying
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Houston seventy nine percent of tickets, ninety two percent of
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: the cash, and then they're up from five and a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: half to seven and a half. I'm not gonna disagree.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I would still lay it if I was gonna play
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: it with the Rockets. So they went through that key
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: ish number seven and a half there. But again, unfortunately
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I can't get involved in any of the NBA today, man.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: So again, sometimes you just gotta pass. And that's what
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: we're doing today, all right. College football, some real craziness
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: here with the college football, man, it's an ESPN tripleheader.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: ESPN focusing on these.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Bowls that really don't mean a whole lot for the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: most part. Starting out at two pm Eastern with the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Bushes Baked Beans Boca Raton Bowl in Boca Raton, Florida,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: A Boca Ratone the mouth of the raft. The rats
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: are eating the beans. Man, I'm pretty sure it must
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: be Bush's Baked beans. Right, It's Bush's Boca Ratona, is it,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: George Bush? I have no idea the rich Republicans living
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: in Boca Raton.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: This game is Toledo against Louisville. Now, this is a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: game where you got to pay attention to the opt outs.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I've been saying that Toledo underperformed this season, even though
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: they did finish with a pretty solid eight and four record, Toledo,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: they were a lot better than the record looked all season.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: They had a couple of strange losses in here where
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: they were actually favored on the road against like Western
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Michigan even the Western Michigan aunt up winning the MAC
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Against Bowling Green.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Very strange losses there, and Toledo was actually favored on
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: the road against Washington State too.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: But they finished strong.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: They won four games in a row, and they tried
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: to make a run at the MAC Championship and then
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: they fell short because of tiebreakers. Basically, like I don't
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: know what happened, Like the MAC does these weird tiebreakers
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: where Miami Ohio wound up having the tiebreakers over both
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Toledo and Ohio and getting into the MAC Championship for
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: whatever reason Toledo.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things going on here.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Like I like, the teams finished strong, which kind of
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: means they might want to be in the bowl game.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: But then again, having a lot of time off means
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: that it might kind of.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Ruin your winning momentum.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: But then again, Toledo is not as bad as they
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: looked at some of these games this year. But then again,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Toledo might be disappointed because their goal this year was
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: to win the MAC and they.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Didn't do it.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: And then that kind of leads into looking at the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: opt outs for this game here. It's a problem for Toledo, man,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: they got some opt outs here, and some of their
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: players are opting out which aren't really being shown here
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: other than Davis, their edge rusher, but I think they
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: have other guys opting out as well. But the main
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: problem here is they're losing their head coach and their
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: DC and they're both not playing in the in the game.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: They're both not gonna be there at the game.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I should say, Candle the flame has gone out because
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: he's leaving and he's going to Yukon, which apparently is
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: a step up from Toledo to go to a team
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: that's not even in a conference.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Don't know what that move is. It's weird.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: But he won't be coaching, and then their DC is
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: going to Syracuse, so they're gonna have some interim coach here.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I believe Toledo already has another coach lined up so
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: they know who their new coaches, but I forget.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that actually, but I don't think that.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Their interim coaches coaching the game today is going to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: be their future coach. So that's a you have to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: try to gauge, like is this a negative or a
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: positive when a head coach leaves, You know what I mean?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Because in some.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Ways it can mean like, oh, they're abandoning the team
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: and the team just won't get excited anymore. In another way,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: it's like if the team likes the interium coach they'll
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: get up for. And it's really hard to figure out
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: do they like the interium coach. But I think if
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: the interium coach is staying and he's gonna be the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: coach next year, the team will play hard for him
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: because they want to, you know, get that guy's career
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: off on the right foot.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's the case here.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: I think the interium coach for Toledo today is not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: necessarily gonna be their coach.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: So there are some problems with Toledo here. Now.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: One thing that still might get them up for this
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: game is they do get to play Louisville, which is
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: an ACC team, so maybe they will still get excited
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: for that reason. Now, for Louisville, they only have a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: couple of guys entering the transfer portals, so for the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: most part, Louisville is actually intact, and it seems like
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: they're showing up for this game now. Louisville, they looked
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: like they were gonna finish the season just as a
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: dead team. Basically, after they lost to Clemson, it looked
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: like they'd packed it in. They got blown out by SMU,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: but shockingly, they came back and they absolutely obliterated Kentucky.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: And I know Kentucky's not that good, but I was
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: shocked that Louisville actually showed up with that amount of
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: intensity in that game. So that actually kind of shows
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: you that maybe Louisville will actually show up for this
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Bowl game. And when you're the better team like Louisville is,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: that may not be a good sign for the dog here.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Louisville's up to a ten point favorite, though.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: This line has been all over the place, So it
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: opened nine and a half, and it initially was all
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: the way down I think below the seven. I think
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: it was six and a half for a while, but
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: then once Toledo's coach left and whatever, the line went
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: back up through the back, through the key number and
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: all the way up to ten.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: And it's headed through that key number of ten.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of tickets, eighty seven percent of the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: cash on Louisville. I think, if you're gonna play it,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: you gotta lay the points here. I mean, if Louisville
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: shows up and they are the better team, they have
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the way better offense as well, they should be able
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: to get it done here.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: But I mean Toledo. They're actually fairly.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Good defensively though, So that's the one thing you do
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: have to worry about if they if they still are
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: gonna show up with any amount of focus in this game,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: their defense might be decent enough to maybe keep this
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: game close. And the way that you know, again, this season,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Toledo wasn't that bad. Total is very low though now
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: for forty six and a half to forty three and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: a half, I don't know really what caused that drop.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Seventy five percent of tickets and only sixty percent of
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the cash on the over. So you know, me, I
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: don't like laying double digit points in a football game
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: with a total that's that low either, though.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: So obviously it's a pass for me.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: It would be a slight lean for me towards laying
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: the points though with Louisville. With Toledo just seeming like
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: they're in a little bit of a messy situation here
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: right now, it's really hard to gauge their motivation though,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, we just have to pass on it.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Bush's baked Beans, Tyson, what's up man? Tyson? B Tyson Chicken,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: what's up man?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: They should sponsor a Bowl Game, the Tyson Chicken Nugget Bowl,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: the Potato Bowl. I dude, I told you. I said
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: that on my show. Maybe you had left before I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: talked about the game. I talked about the total in
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: that game on my show, Yeah, and I said that
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I thought the the line moved down was an overreaction.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: The reason why the line moved the line moved like
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: seven or eight points I think lower on the total,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: just because there were opt outs on both sides. And
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: I said that that was an overreaction most likely. I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: said that the over was the way to look at
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: that total.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: In that game. Although I preferred the side with Washington
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: State slightly. I didn't love the.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Game either way, but but yeah, I did not agree
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: with the under in that one at all. Plus, Washington
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: State was stepping way down in class to face a
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: really bad Utah State defense. Utah State played all Mountain
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: West teams this year, and Washington State played like multiple
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: ACC teams and whatever. They played a much much more
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: difficult schedule, so they were like stepping down in class
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: defensive way to face a much weaker defense than some
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: of the defenses that they faced. Got gotta watch the
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: show Man. Although the under did almost hit. I mean,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: it was just Utah State's offense just really fall at
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: points in that game.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: All right. We have a lot of movement in this game.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: In the New Orleans Bowl, which is obviously in New Orleans.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: This game gets played every year in the super Dome.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: It used to be the RNL Carriers New Orleans one.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I guess they no longer are carrying them as a sponsor.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: I think this is the first year for a long
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: time that it's not RNL Carriers, which I think was
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: a I forget who they I don't even know who
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: they are, but there's no sponsor anymore.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: It's just the New Orleans Bawl whatever.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: This is a Western Kentucky and Southern miss Now, this
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: is the cleanest handicap out of the three games. There
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: are not many opt outs in this game, so pretty
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: much both teams are showing up. Western Kentucky does have
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: a couple of guys hitting the transfer portal, one of
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: their cornerbacks and one of their running backs, although I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: think Western Kentucky is more of a passing offense, so
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much that really matters. But there's
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: been a huge move on the line towards Southern Miss,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: and I do not disagree with it. If you're gonna
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: play this game, I think you got to try to
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: get Other Miss still at least as an underdog, but
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: you missed the best numbers at three and a half.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: But of course in these bulls, you have to try
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: to gauge, like has the line moved too much or
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: you know, like when the line moves like this, you
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: gotta trust that that movement means something that there is
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: like actual like professional money slamming that line down and
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: the like, there is a reason for well, not just
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: professional money, but the line has moved just because of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: stuff that's happened, like you know, like new information that's
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: come out. Although again in this case, I think it
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: was more just professional money hitting this because there hasn't
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: been that much information. There just really aren't that many
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: opt outs or anything here, So I think it's a
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: legitimate move.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I like Southern Miss.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Anyway, in this game, like when the Bulls were announced,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: wish I kind of took it to the three and
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: a half. I mean, at this point, I'm gonna pass,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: even though I know I did give out Old Dominion
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: back in their other game because they were still at
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: like three to three and a half. They actually got
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: up to a four point dog again and they had
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: an easy cover. Southern Miss might get this game fairly,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: but I think I just have to stay off of it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of tickets, sixty seven percent of the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: cash on Southern Miss. If you do want to play
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: it again, you could probably get like a plus one
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: on Southern Miss right now, and that's probably what I
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: would do, or play the money line as an underdog here.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Total is pretty high up to fifty eight and a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: half from fifty five and a half, but its like
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: money kind of coming in towards the under to some extent,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: seventy percent of tickets on the over, fifty seven percent
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: of the cash on the over.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to deal with the total in this
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: one though.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think either defense is really necessarily
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: that great, so I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: it was a higher scoring game. But I think the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Southern Miss side is the way to look at this game.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: It's a game where Western Kentucky.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, bowls like this are just kind of going
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: through the motions for them in my opinion, Like I
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: don't really know if they're gonna be excited to get
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: to play a Sun Belt team in New Orleans. Western
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Kentucky they're in bowls basically every year. I think they
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: want to bowl last year or they they won at
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: least one bowl within the last couple of years. I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: think they've won multiple bowls in the last few years.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Like I think they've won three of their.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: Last four bowls all in the last four years. So
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: how excited does Western Kentucky really get here?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were trying to win their conference to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: the CUSA and they fell short. They lost to Jacksonville State,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: so they missed getting into the CUSA title game. For
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: that reason, that was kind of their goal. They played
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: those tough games against LSU and Jacksonville State, although you
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: got to give them credit. I mean, they played hard
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: in both of those games, and it was just kind
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: of a spot where maybe they were going to be
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: hungover because they played too hard against LSU and then
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: kind of fell flat a little bit against Jacksonville State
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: in that game. But you know, they still might show
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: up for the game. But I think the game does
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: mean more to Southern miss Now. I don't like the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: way that Southern Miss finished on three straight losses. Although yes,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: when you have a lot of time off, almost a
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: month off, that could break your losing momentum and it
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: could be like a reset, right, But also that was
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: ugly the way they lost to Troy. Troy's not that
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: good man. Southern Miss took the loss there. But of
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: course whoever won that game was just gonna lose to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: James Madison in the Sun Belt title game anyway, So
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Southern Miss realistically was not gonna win the sun Belt,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: but they probably should have been in that game against
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: James Madison. Now, for Southern Miss, I think this game
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: does matter more to them. It's also closer to their home,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: but enough of a destination that I they'll also be
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: excited about it. And teams that are smaller teams that
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: want to be in a bowl, they'll still show up
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: in bowls that are close to their home too, But
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: this one is kind of both, right, Like, they get
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: to go somewhere. They get to play in the super Dome,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: which is fun, and their crowd should be there because
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: New Orleans is not that far from Hattiesburg, Mississippi, Like
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: their crowd can really just drive here pretty easily, so
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: they should have the better crowd than Western Kentucky has
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: in this game, I would imagine, so a little bit
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: more crowd support I'm expected for Southern Miss here. Now
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: for Southern Miss, though, I believe that Southern MISSUS coach did.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Leave, which is Charlie Hoff.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: And you remember last year, this Southern Miss team, A
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: huge like a huge portion of what's now Southern Miss
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: was Marshall last year, and if you remember, Huff and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of his players and his staff left Marshall they.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: Refused to play in their bowl.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Well they didn't refuse really, but they just had so
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: many people leave that they couldn't even feel the team
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: in their bowl game. So they got replaced in their
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: bowl game, so they didn't. So Marshall didn't play in
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: a bowl last year, and those guys became Southern Miss basically.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: So these guys that are the core of Southern MYSS
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: didn't play in a bowl last year, so I think
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: that's gonna pump them up a Southern Miss. Their program
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: also didn't play in a bowl last year, so I
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: think that will also pump them up here to be
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: in this game.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Now, Huff did leave so that might be a little
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: bit of a concern.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: But their interim coach, who I believe is their offensive coordinator,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: they elevated him to head coach and they've already given
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: him the head coach job for next year. So I
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: do think that means Southern Miss is gonna play hard
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: for this guy because they know he's gonna be their
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: coach next year.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: And of course he's in the system.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: He knows the system, so they're not gonna change their
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: you know, what they're doing or whatever because he's the OC,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: so they're gonna stick to what they've been doing.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: So I think that's all good.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Like the continuity is still there for something Miss. The
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: players haven't left. I think they're gonna be excited. Southern
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: Miss hasn't won a bowl in like a few years
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: at this point, I think, as far as their program
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: is concerned, so I think the game means more to them. Man,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: am I talking myself into a play on Southern Miss here?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: I know I've been really stingy with playing the bowls
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: because there are so many moving parts.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: In all these bowls here. Man, Uh, you know I'm.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: Gonna stay away, but especially because we've missed out on
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: some of the best numbers, like through the key number.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Well though, of course the next key number is just
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: basically who's gonna win the game? I mean, if you're
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: just playing who's gonna win the game? I do think
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: Southern miss wins this game. So that's what I think
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: about the game. Did I buy a lot of gifts?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: I don't have that much money to work with here,
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: so I'm I'm an unemployed individual, so no, all right,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: And I have no friends and virtually no family, So
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: what am I supposed to do?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: UNLV and Ohio is the last game here.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: In the Scooter's Coffee Frisco Bowl, which is in Frisco, Texas. Now,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: for this game, UNLV has moved up from a four
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: point favorite to a six and a half point favorite.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: It's about hitting that key number of seven almost here
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: unbelievably high total up to sixty six and a half.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't disagree with an over. When you see a
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: total that high usually means you should be looking towards
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: an over. These teams both are better offensively than defensively.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: UNLV actually is balanced offensively as well. Sixty percent tickets
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: seventy four percent of the cash coming in on UNLV here.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I don't really disagree with this move.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I actually think the move in this game is to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: probably go UNLV over their team total, because their offense
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: is pretty good, and I expect their offense to be
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: able to handle an Ohio team. It's not really that great.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: And there's a reason why the line is moving like this,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: and this is because Ohio's coach got fired for impropriety
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: because he was he was sleeping with an assistant or
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: something on the staff I'm assuming a chick. So he's
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: fired now for that, and because he was gambling or
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: something like or no drinking.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: So he got fired for sleeping with an assistant coach,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: which I mean, all right, fine, you can fire him
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: for that, although even that I think is maybe a
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: little bit stupid, but I guess it was because it
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: was also an affair that didn't look good.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: But the other thing they fired him for was because
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: he was drinking with his staff in his office.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Like who cares about that? Like they were.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Adults, They're not allowed to drink like at night or
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: whatever in his office.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: That's stupid, but whatever. So that's Ohio. Their coach is
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: gone for that reason. So I think that's gonna kind
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: of throw Ohio into a bit of turmoil here, even
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: though we don't really see any opt outs yet really
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: on either side here, but Ohio.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Was in turmoil after that happened. Man.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I think you might see, even though I don't see
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: the news yet, but sometimes it happens came of You
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: might see some of the Ohio players actually just ditching
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: the bowl game.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: I don't really know, man.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Now, for UNLV, I do worry that UNLV is a
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: bit of a disappointed team because they did have their
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: sights set on winning the Mountain West once the season
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: got going, and I talked about how they were overrated
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: and they weren't gonna win the Mountain West and we
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: did have a win with Boise in the Mountain West
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: championship game.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: So UNLV fell short of that.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: But I mean the reward they missed out on, a
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: guest was playing in the LA Bowl. But you know,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: like Boise got to get smacked by Washington, so that
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: that was the reward. But UNLV is not even as
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: good as Boise, so that is a little bit of
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: a concern. But Ohio is a MAC team and they're
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: not really that good either. I mean, they're not even
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: as good as UNLV obviously, So will you NLV show.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Up in this game? Maybe?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: I mean UNLV, they're a program that hasn't been to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: that many bowls over the last decade or so, so
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: maybe they will still be excited for this. On the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: one hand, they didn't really expect to be here when
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: the season started because it was an overhaul year for
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: UNLV with Dan Mullins coming in there.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: You guys have said that you like him.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's that good, but they had a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: good season, man, and maybe they do want to cap
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: it off with a bowl win to get him a
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Bowl win in.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: His first season.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: So there are some reasons why they might show up
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: for this thing. And Ohio, as I said, they're in turmoil.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: And Ohio barely missed out. Like they finished the season
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: pretty strong, beating well you Mass sucks. But then they
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: did beat Buffalo to make their shot at the MAC Championship,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: but they didn't get in because of the tiebreakers.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: So Miami Ohio.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: With law or excuse me, oh Ohio had lost some
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: of its eyebreakers. Even though they actually beat Miami Ohio
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: during the regular season, they didn't have its eyebreaker against
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: them because a computer said so isn't isn't that great?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Which I usually will go with like the numbers, But
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: in that case, I think it's a little bit weird.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: So maybe Ohio is a little bit disappointed they didn't
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: make the MAC Championship game.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: That was kind of their goal.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: You know, they're coming into this Bowl with all the
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: turmoil with their coach and whatever. I assume one of
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: their like other like one of their coordinators or whatever,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: must be stepping into the coaching role here, But I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: don't know if I like it.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Man Ohio. I mean, their offense has been all right,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: so again I mean an over.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't really disagree with the over in this game.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I think again UNLV over the team total does make
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: sense as well. I think if you play the game,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: you probably gotta lay the points with UNLV, but I'm
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: staying away from it completely. Out of all three of
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: these games, the best lean for me is the Southern
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Miss game, which is the cleanest handicap out of all
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: of them, and that's the way I would lean in
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: that game. But unfortunately, again I think I'm gonna pass
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: on these ones.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Tower Gang.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I mean I was talking to
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: Cole a little bit last night about the l Way documentary.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean those guys are friends.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: I don't talk to them that often though. I messaged
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: back and forth with some of them occasionally. But yeah,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: we don't buy each other Christmas gifts. That is not
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: that's not a thing. No players at the hotel bar.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: That's a good rule for your players, uh, for the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: for the the coach though, Like, why do I give
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: a shit if he's drinking in his office?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: These these guys are all uh yeah, pussy whipped.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: They're they're putting pussy on a pedestal. Man, that's true.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: I forget the guy's name already too, but yeah, that
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: was Ohio's coach and it already happened with them with
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: the Michigan coach as well. I'm only halfway through at
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: the Lway doc I like it so far.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: It's entertaining.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: It's nostalgia for me because I remember some of these games,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: especially the ones like later.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: In his career.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: It has a lot of Elway himself in it because
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of it is set up. It's like him
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: being interviewed and him like kind of telling the story
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: of his career and whatever.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's interesting.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: His wife is in it. Dan Reeves is in it
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: being interviewed as well. Yeah, I mean I like it
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: so far. It's it seems like it's a pretty well
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: made documentary, all right.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's gonna do it, man.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm tempted for Southern miss here, but I'm
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: gonna stay away. I probably will give you a couple
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: more Bulls as the Bowl season goes, and I probably
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: will have one playoff game over the weekend here. But
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: I know I'm being really stingy with it. But again,
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: the Bulls are just so unpredictable now that it's really
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: hard to figure it out. I think I only had
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: like maybe four of them last year, and I think
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: we did win barely on the bulls last year.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll stay off of this one.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm mostly looking to fade like the most
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: disappointed teams in the Bowl season. So there are a
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: couple more that I do have my eye on, but
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: we're gonna pass today. So once more, my plays, say,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: are college basketball Grambling plus the points and San Jose
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Sharks put line in hockey. I mean, if you want
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  Speaker 2: to if it's getting a little bit pricey on that,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to start splitting the bat puck line money,
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  Speaker 2: like you can do that too. Thank you, I thank you,
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  Speaker 2: mister Pinsey, Thank you, sir. And Elway Colts Jersey. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even think he had a number because he was
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  Speaker 2: never officially like on the team, Like he got drafted
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  Speaker 2: by the Baltimore Colts and then he was just like nah,
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  Speaker 2: and like he he never had a number with them
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  Speaker 2: out of the thing. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. They haven't really gotten They didn't really
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  Speaker 2: get it. That's the one thing my complaint about the
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  Speaker 2: documentary is they unless they talk about it later, they've
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  Speaker 2: kind of like just they kind of just skipped over that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you sir. It is Festivus today. They've kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Just skipped over the whole Baltimore Colts situation. They talked
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: about it a little bit, so they didn't they didn't
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  Speaker 2: totally skip over it, I guess, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's a it was a weird situation. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, they didn't really skip over it. This documentary
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  Speaker 2: did talk about it, and Elway talked about it as well.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know that was a whole weird thing.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, thank you guys.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it.
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• 1:32:30
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• 1:32:35
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• 1:32:38
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• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: So you can go do that as well. Loser Cast,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: we might be doing a show tonight. I don't know.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I thought I might not be able to
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: do it, but I probably can because I'm not leaving
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: for any of the Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: If I do have.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Family, we are gonna there is gonna be a little
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: bit of a gift exchange still with family, so and
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: the usual holiday festivities. So in the next two days
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be with family. I'll still do this show
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: like in the morning before I get out here. It'll
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: be a really small board tomorrow, and I probably I'm
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: not gonna play the Hawaii Bowl, so like there's probably
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be nothing. I'll give you a show just for
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: the Hawaii Ball tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that awesome?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: It'll be hilarious, and to not give out a play
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: on it, and then Christmas will be a small morning
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: show as well with the five NBA games, and then
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: we do have the three NFL games. Oh boy, Christmas. NFL,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, dude. You're looking at three teams that might
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: be on a third string quarterback playing on Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: And only one team.
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  Speaker 2: The Broncos, are a playoff team, and none of the
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: games really have any playoff implications at all, and all
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of the teams are eliminated.
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  Speaker 1: So it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Netflix, the NFL, they got all got to be pissed, dude,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: the Netflix.
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  Speaker 1: Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: It worked out okay last year, even though the one
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: of the games is a massive blowout last year, but
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: still this year, like they thought these are gonna be
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: big games. Whoops, Now they're all horrible games on Christmas?
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: So isn't that just great? And I don't really love
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: any of them. From a betting perspective. I don't like
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: this week from betting perspective either. Really, I'll probably have
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: maybe two, maybe three plays in the NFL.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. Elway was considered mobile. That's true.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: He ran a bit and he ran into people. Dude,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: he lowered his shoulder like Jackson Dart of his day, man,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Jackson Elway. Elway was definitely running into people, though he
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: was getting out of bounds better better than better than
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart was. And I think Elway was a bit
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: bigger than Jackson Dart as well. But yes, true, you
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: like the Sharks puck line, You're gonna play a prop
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: on Celebrini as well, parlaying it. You know, you know
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: I worry about the Parlways.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's just straight bets. But anyway, what I'll
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: that I have to promote, Oh yeah, loser cast. We
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: might be doing the show tonight, but we'll see.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: So that's gonna do it.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: And then I don't know when the Giants podcast is starting,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: but I will let everybody know if and when it is.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for now. I will be
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow with.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Literally a show that's probably I think just gonna be
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: the Hawaii ball.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: There might actually be a little bit of college basketball.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: I'll have to look, but it'll be the shortest show
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  Speaker 2: in show history.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna do it. Happy Festive as.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody, go air your grievances, go pin your father in
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: the feats of strength, you know. Make sure to observe
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: the poll. And that's and that's gonna observe the loser
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: cast poll. By the way, uh I retweeted the one
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: from last week, which combined the two episodes Lighton made
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: the poll. You can vote for my my answer which
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm allowed to pump it up
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: and promote it. But Rob Ryan Or was my loser
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  Speaker 2: pick of the week.
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  Speaker 1: So that was mine.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to, if you want to go throwing
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  Speaker 2: a vote for him and get me my first win
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: on the show, first win by picking the biggest loser.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it. Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: As always.
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  Speaker 1: Peace