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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
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Listen to him on radio train topic. Our President was the Argentine Nation,
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Dr Raviero Mirey was the President hello. To all there is no stabilization plan,
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not good, but the delay to change. There' s a problem
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with currency exchange here. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the
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twenty- four thousand. Ah well. It' s very little motasiara.
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It' s already a lot of equator, but you' re not liberal.
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There were taxes how about the province not, but if I add one
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plus three hundred sixty five times and give me three sixty s it won'
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t last. If there is no video and there is no You who invited
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me to federo you noodle Cotuk. They want to know how the economy is
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going to grow, it' s going to go up like a diver'
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s fart, but very anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive
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plan, but you should set the path. This is not a liberal government
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because it did not release the drug. Not because today' s appreciation changed.
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There is appreciation for changing, but freedom was little. Trestas have my
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friends very but good afternoon. Here we are once again in outer construction sixteen
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one fifteen degrees. He' s got a little more. It is cold
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from tomorrow season than Friday and not talk about the weekend of the state of
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dolando. There we are with Don Javier Estrella Intergalactica, spiritual leader should say
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for the world, please, as the world, the concert very alecto,
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that is, is intergalactic. There' s a lot of growing Marxism.
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I got a notification from the Internet at some point. There is Marxism the
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same growing Mars and because not the Saturn. So there' s Andy and
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he' s killing him. And that' s why, today, at
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last weekend in Madrid, some Saturday in Cordoba, the man is out and
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full every day. It' s a speech plus interviews. I was going
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to say the report, I could say more the friendly talks of serviles on
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Monday they also talk at night RCN on Tuesday morning with donlaje for the nation,
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more talks of friends centers and more centers. Realize me to read too
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much bowl. I' m not going to talk about river because he learns
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at night again and I know myself. Well, I say this and that
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everyone on the moon today with Javier, with Jamoncito, we must support the
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national government there and forgive populism of extreme roughness. Well here, either way
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we' re on the diego program. We' ll have it for a
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little while economist Daniel Mar in the ras interview that we' ll close with
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our correspondent in North America, Don Gustavo Pasa Golfinson. Yesterday we remember them
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passed Juan Pablo Le Daniel Clip, but tomorrow Alejandro Rosman will also take the
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week with economy, with Don Camino de Chorle and the economy. The note
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today is night. Again. The blue comes back up Now he' s
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down a little bit. He touched the ceiling of one thousand two hundred and
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eighty, surpassing the historical record of the end of January of one thousand and
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fifty- five. That was the roof of the day of or that still
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not stolen is closing low to one thousand two hundred seventy and thank you.
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A thousand two hundred and seventy- five will be the new record. The
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country risk has gone up half a point, like a thousand three eighty-
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five. The opposition asks for more government changes for the base law if the
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signature of the dizinfo dictor in the Senate is complicated at that time with this
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gift arrived that says framework a new record and parallel uses are above the thousand
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two hundred and all the blue above should be higher, naturally, when normally
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the counted with liquiy the duo is too on the rise. Up to hundreds
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of sixty the CCL and one thousand two thirty- two reveal a new video
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of how the terrorists of Jamas in this totally rediable and obviously critical fact of
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already in our terrorist cada sequestered five young people that I realized it is him
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who you October last year. What the show' s gonna be like.
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It' s not a presentation, it' s a welcome show to the
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show with fifty- five percent poor is having trouble there social mission tension.
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Apparently there' s been some sort of first deal, principle of agreement and
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let' s see I have some urgent on the nation screen more how the
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President helps him in a couple of which songs you' ll sing to watch
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I say sing This seems to me to take him away from his electorate.
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Now let him sing. Alberto Hernandes has also sung menemajo, fu less,
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era men It is not this, but of course it is like no.
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There' s circus bread and circus bread. It doesn' t tell me
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very well the production and no longer rock it. In this sense, cl
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se las nia nia picando ves que no uniss promulgates seventy percent of children with
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poverty. We' ll settle it with an honor. I fly in a
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good part. What happens is that the rock says where chimerism comes from,
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which is the chismerism that is playing with Axelti Filco' s new song two
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thousand twenty- seven, President two thousand twenty- seven, is being tried
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by the precandidacy of Xis who does not have to magazine in the Provista de
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Buenos Aires. But of course the quisnerism that we give Milaver as a good
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friend because of the mistakes and defects of macrism. But above all, the
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quisneg or What an advance adri Miley is a new book all about the delivery
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of tickets in the prea presentation of Millay' s book and his musical show
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and his musical self difo in one part I want to kill myself well today
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there we are in this sense with the news at this time I reiterate to
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see yes clear circus distraction. We also talked about it yesterday with pure exception
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in the era of cruelty, in the era of cruelty as well. And
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madness. Not because it' s Fernando, it' s the freedom to
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move forward. It' s not insanity progresses. Not that Master Class Totto
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dropped the dollar a little from two thousand two eighty thousand two seventy, but
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he raises it again five, as I said this toto, which is,
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according to Flores, a criminal, nobody listens. So, well, over
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there, over there we go the chismerism. They' re probably going to
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accuse you with everything I have to criticize you for that, the gin.
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I have to be moving the luo not so as to be jio to speak
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to Pedro Sanchez, the quinnerimos surely is the one moving the blues with an
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ornament pardon ador, nor the bunner who has come out to say that they
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are not calm. People be calm. The dollar has nothing to do with
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prices. Well I want to see because those that this consolidates in lava that
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there is in a mirror of very fast. Well, at some point it
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' s going to have an impact on the products. For now we want
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that they didn' t tell me good our world doesn' t have to
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make it so complicated. My law is an absentee and co- heir of
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Martinez, of och fobraica valo. It doesn' t get out of there
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in the middle of the harsh criticism one can be. We' re just
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talking about the two thousand twenty- seven of saying that it' s not
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good that he' s tying up spiny support, that he' s an
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mayor of the almighty killing, that he has judicial problems because of this cause
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of gender violence, not rape, but he' s almost abused, and
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that if we don' t do it, he' s already a respender
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or not an institutional act of handing over cars because of patrol insecurity. Well,
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it' s really terrible. On this side, saying well, let
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' s review then in the economy. We' ve got it online.
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He' s waiting for us, Daniel mart as promised, Daniel, Good
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afternoon, Fernando Salute, how it goes. Good afternoon, well, how
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are you out there? Well, all right. Thank you for taking care
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of us first. Like, yeah, well let' s see, Daniel,
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how many of us should be worried at this hour about this strong blue
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rise that went up almost two hundred and thirty pesos in ten days, no
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less than we know that it was late and others that have lowered in too
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much the sizes of interest on the part of the Central. To what extent
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this adornis has already quickly gone out to cross and say that this is not
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what presidential mouthpieces or governments are always saying anymore is not going to have an
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impact on short notice. I would like to say to what extent it is
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more suitable and to combat the delay of the financiers. We have to worry.
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Daniel, I think that well, as was just said, the free
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exchange rate and let' s love it was very ironed compared to prices that
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came to a major gallop. And it' s a kind of exchange that
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' s generally quite free, that is, it' s handled by circumstances
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of high demand that vary substantially. Now let' s go to the motivations
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and go to the discussion. The exchange rate in Argentina has had many fluctuations
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throughout history and this had to do in part with trade conditions, which I
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think have not changed one day for another. But if in part also with
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the situation let' s call it financing, trust, investment, and that
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perception is turning and it has also to do much to evaluate the possibilities of
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Argentina compared to other sides. And that' s where it seems to me
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that one of the circumstances that was discussed is the interest rate. For example,
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if Argentina sees that it does not defend the weight and that it also
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puts you quite low interest rate for what would be expected is a return to
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maintain some kind of purchasing power. Well, people prefer something else and that
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manifests itself in the quote. Now the effect on general prices of goods.
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I think that' s something to look at. Well, now the uba
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has been relatively smaller than the other priced grapes. But yes, this can
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remain volatile and can have effects on prices. There' s one will say
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good, but there' s an official market that hasn' t moved pretty
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much. But what happens on the other mark is behavior unifying. He also
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said to come and see. I want to take that definition. Perception is
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turning in terms of economic agents. There' s some of this. There
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is some change in expectations or some doubts that entered the horizon. Okay.
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I believe that all this discussion of what price competition is going to be has
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effects. Price, like competition. For this reason your competence of mounty forgiveness,
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I said yes, I meant competition coins, yes, yes, thank
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you for correcting no competition currency. That' s why he pointed out who
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' s going to defend the weight. It is supposed to be the monetary
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authorities and the authorities of a country. It is true that the weight has
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been very despised previously, but that does not take away the right to try
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to defend it and the obligation in some way. How do you deal with
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an advertised currency competition, which is logical that it has so far been relatively
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limited but informal. But I say relatively limited, because, despite all the
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restrictions, we all took if we knew what was going on in the other
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market. At least as a reference I say and I think they' re
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more distraction. You will correct me more distracting than the President uses to buy
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time with something else. But I say these rumors. The President, after
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a few months, in the long days, from talking again about collapsing until
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the Central Bank is eliminated, may have what is minimally. But another factor
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has to do with the blue rise. Let' s say good to that
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we were talking, because it is clear that it is highlighting the moment of
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formalization of currency competition and we must see how it is done. It is
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one thing to compete against other currencies but with someone who weakens it. And
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it' s another thing that strengthens him. The strengthening comes from the fiscal
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side. That went a long way, but it' s not just the
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physical part. Well, I read some interview I recently announced in the sense
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that you think recovery looks slow. I do not know whether to put this
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in the letters that you see it short difficult, that perhaps a ship I
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do not know say you in principle b slow. I was also reading some
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clarification of some blue school ironing barriers that I calculated as twenty months. I
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think the good principle is a little bit like that. The perception is that
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this comes in terms of achievements goes into the hip recessive context of inflation matter,
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but that in terms of recovery comes too slow. And the word is
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too much, but it comes very slow. Well if slow for what we
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are seeing in these weeks, but I think we are facing very important moments
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of decisions that are going to give some sense to what recovery is going to
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be like. I explain yes and we can move forward quickly in the saying.
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This is the defense of the currency and the Central Bank. It begins
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to accumulate reserves at a speed, or it continues to accumulate reserves, but
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it makes it a much stronger speed. Well, Sister, I' m
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sorry I' m interrupting. A little bit of wine has come down like
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the tendency to correct me, it' s the other way around. I
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wasn' t accumulating much and it goes on, but it was less.
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It' s not a bit upside down the clear trend. That' s
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why I say check. But he' s bought reserves and accumulated some of
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what he' s bought anyway. The net keeps giving her positives, but
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I say well, I will have to if this gives the conditions to speed
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it up and the bank goes in, plays it in that sense and people
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give the weight the confidence. That leads to increases in demand, ultimately,
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and it helps recovery a lot and also helps stabilize prices, because the exchange
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rate would no longer escape under those circumstances. But if, on the other
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hand, the decisions and perceptions that Argentina has issues of governance, it does
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not end up defining well how it will sustain a fiscal path beyond what has
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been done so far. But I say, in the future there are a
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number of things that there give you more medium- term sustenance and go a
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long way in the climate of investment in practice did or did not say sorry.
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That will mark the pace of economic recovery, first by some functioning demand
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and consumption in general, and secondly by investments that make it sustainable over time.
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Well, for this to happen, Congress also has to do with five
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metres. The government took out a law, set out to take it out,
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but with no forter and no delay that will surely end the issue is
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juanto, it also remains of what the government pushed. Not courterect, yes,
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yes. That' s why, when we talk about governance, it
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' s a whole. It is not just one or two people, but
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rather beyond people, how institutions function in remente and in terms of governance,
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social humor. If we talk about a slow recovery network beyond it in quotation
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marks the achievement of the inflation slowdown. You believe that social humor holds up,
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that it will enter a little bit already in a climate of macer,
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rarer. We see it in some province, this dollar thing a little bit.
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We must how he has it in time. If this is cut off
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or it follows a little bit in radio the weather too. My impression is
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that social humor depends a lot on not only the situation of the moment,
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but also on the perspective that is given. If you say I have to
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make a sacrifice today because things are going to get better and things are being
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done on that road, social humor or it' s going on. Let
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' s call it, but if not these deteriorating plation, let' s
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say, suppose the government effectively, as economic consultancies say and takes them four
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and a half five percent in May, following this generation. Then, in
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the beginning, he does not see that it will cost much from that inertia
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of that place and even postponing increases in fuels, in transports, in services
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that will arrive sooner rather than later. It seems difficult that from here,
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at least until Fitanio and Daniel, you can get too far off that one
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on that scale, from this four- five percent ladder. I' m
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not saying I don' t know a very plausible two or talk a three.
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It seems, in any case, to make a challenge for next year.
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I' m not mistaken, yes, but here you don' t
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just have to look at the calendar year. We set this calendar year.
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What we had was very high inflations in the first few months. Now it
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' s going down, but it' s also substantially high inflation. I
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believe that when you look at the years from the moment you could apply it
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as a stabilization program in Argentina and many other countries, several of them in
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Latin America, inflation went from stratospheric levels this to levels around forty percent per
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year. When I say forty percent per year, it is not necessarily starting
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the year on one January of each year, but from the moment it is
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perceived that the stabilization plan would already start to work. After going from forty
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to twenty it cost and from twenty to less than ten it cost even more.
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But the first step is to call it forty percent per year, which
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is three percent per month. That is a step, I think it is
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necessary and that it can be done relatively quickly and that it should be done
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quickly, because if not, the economy enters with a negative dynamic that is
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much more expensive to turn around later. How we talk. As you passed
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you mentioned it as it would be. No one seems to be quite clear
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what this transition to this currency competition will be like. Let' s say
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what a day- to- day phantic system I paint, as an aneutous
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in the life of pink doña day by day. Let' s say yes,
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to see how it would be implemented. First, I think it'
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s good. It is in the fiscal condition that the state does not ask
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the Central Bank for more money. There is the monetary condition, which is
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to remunerate and defend the weight so that it can compete against other currencies.
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That' s what institutional guards are for. There is also the question of
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investment climate, which is, among other things, and very important, governance.
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Now if that is going to happen and where we are today is to
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move to a much more open market that allows buying of peso with weights and
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that people can alternatively use pesos or other currency. And the experience is that
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the local currency was increasingly used by the countries that kept it, which are
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the majority and which went through these circumstances. Now there' s the poyo.
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Some say good can' t be released overnight, but well you can
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' t either. Nor would it be convenient to close it and we can
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open it up seeing it today in Argentina, for example, leaving some restriction
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regarding turning certain concepts abroad, for example, to buy savings, let'
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s call it, put a ceiling for relatively loose people, for more restrictive
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companies, let' s call it and in terms of remission of profits of
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importers. Yeah, yeah, well, that would handle some bumps. Also
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initially we do not agree that the exit of the stocks, which I believe
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is being delayed. It seems to me that the government had it for the
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first semester is no longer going to crystallize. It is going to be clearly
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gradual imposed country that has good also from the regrouping, because it is the
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other, for example, what I collect from the state. You know,
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it' s gonna go on until the end of years. In that sense,
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there is not going to be that little big news. Not good.
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That' s part of it. When we talk about sustainable tax over time,
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tax countries, a particular tax that on circumstances let' s call it
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emergency, but it' s not good. Well also the arsences in Argentina,
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the belongings in Argentina remain no, but yes, yes. We got
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him from not living in emergency all the time. Yes, yes, but
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I say the way out of the sempo, as we say, is gradual
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or gradual or not. There' s another one. No, yes,
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but we must not stop doing it and move forward in it. There are
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times that you can move forward faster than others and when you can start.
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I don' t think something started. It seems to me that in a
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few months' time, forgiveness should be made much faster when it started.
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In what sense do you have. That is where ignorance, I do not
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say because, for example, all that was called the restrictions of the CNBs
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were flexing. This is for moments of the counting with liquidation, how some
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times are done. Perfect, perfect. We are talking here in plural construction
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under takeability, with the economist Daniel Marx. Daniel overtakes it how much these
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first five months are likely to accomplish. The sixth does not take to intesalinal
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the tractors of the delantoplay, how sustainable they are, how much they have
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to do with the effect of Ecuadora, how much to kick debts like that
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of the shirt in energy matter. I say if anyone, if they see
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a specialist, someone after and ask Daniel what you' re saying is sustainable,
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they' re true. They are a little bit of makeup to gain
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more important time, sorry more about the imprint of having a fiscal adjustment,
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insane a fiscal anchor, which is virtuous, let' s say in macroeconomic
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terms, according to super having achieved in the first months of this year is
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cash. Let' s get this straight for starters and it' s focused
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on what we call worse and primary, that is, before the service when
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I say it' s cash, because there' s a difference between what
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was actually paid out and what are obligations that were accumulated between them, we
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said, the cashier' s debts or other things, than to the suppliers
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contractors of the state. There are many things that have not been paid,
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but they are still due and perhaps some are onerous debts. Also on the
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income side, we had an extraordinary income linked to devaluation, that is,
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higher tax collection country, higher collection for withholding exports, than that more than
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countered drop in revenue that was noticed more recently in VAT, for example,
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which is linked to activity. On the spending side, the item that weighs
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the most is that of care and tension, where the indexation was delayed or
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not implemented all, but now we have a new formula and that contributed a
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lot and that seems to me it is also going to be corrected in part,
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not all that has been lost. The other important item of expenditure relates
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to subsidies for the consumption of public services. That greatly reduced that spending,
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but now something of what recovery was going to be was postponed. But that
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seems to me to be bound to be a reduction in sustainable spending over time
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and very important. And finally, we have the debt issue. Well,
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there' s a lot of new debt, some that we just said to
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recognize and another that went from the Central Bank, to the National Treasury and
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within the National Treasury inflation- adjustable debt. That' s not shown in
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spending. But, anyone would say in short, it' s how many
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of these numbers were closed, so it turned out to have and has its
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cost out there even higher than what may be the cost of an interest rate
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far below the inflation rate. I mean, there' s everything in there,
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in there, and how sustainable. Let' s say to the future
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little world semester. I believe that the second semester and thinking for the future,
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Argentina goes beyond a primary decade. Last year it is also affected by
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harvest and other factors. It was almost three points of product, two seven
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of product to a primary superr that will be roughly one or one and a
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half of the product and the difference is financeable if there are these circumstances that
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we talked about before and in that sense it would be sustainable and part of
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Fina, the reason why it is financeable, because Argentina should also be put
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in consequence in a less sporadic, less cyclical growth path that we had historically.
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Finally, when and not just in particular you and much less, but
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when you see that the President takes it up against his colleagues of a certain
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alien, also orthodox liberal, as we call it, you are not attacking
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me to laugh at Marxists or a Claudio Lozano model, to say something when
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colleagues hear you tell them and of the stick, so to speak so many
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idiots that I am reading textuals of honest, intellectually square, evaluators and reliable
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cereals. A renowned economist like Danielmaz remembers less seasoned teeth. Economist was director
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of the Central Bank, was representative of special financier and I said this sor
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negociation of Argentina' s doubt of eighty- nine to ninety- three.
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Daniel Marti, what' s the first feeling you have? I believe that
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every society is important that there is respect for people and that is a right
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and an obligation. It' s good then. You can get in sometimes
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or you can escape some form of rea once, but once you can seem
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not to be the economist field. Don' t be economists We have this
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tea. I asked the economists to tar runo I did not ask him when
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I made rats to the legislators and asked him in his intro and said I
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did not want to go any further, but I say in present of the
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stick and of the economists, how it feels there that there were never veiled
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references as I was going to Brothal with Ian Cabalo, not any of the
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Marxens, but he gave how they environment this, from that realm, what
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is his first Mayan feeling that you say in all your ideas should prevail respect
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among people. Well, I repeat to myself, if I can if not
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economists, that each one can have lived his training. We could earn a
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lot more and be a much better society if we respect each other well,
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Daniel, thank you very much, uh, thanks equally a big hug the
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economist Daniel Mancha here in construction plan man that states very close to many government
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efforts, or I say they are concentrating. Edurtin is an authoritative word in
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that sense. Okay, let' s go to pause sixteen, thirty-
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two. The moon will be dined there with tamila and the mile more forgiveness,
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the nation more is to play as I heard it. Well, we
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' re going to have a pause, as I say other science, we
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' re probably connecting with friend Gustavo ferrari Bol to the pause with Juan I
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ve got Don Gustavo' s line for my friend good afternoon. How he
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' s doing, how you' re walking so good afternoon. I'
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m not on moon park I' m not on moon park. Of course,
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despite my sympathy for our new interplanetary prophet, I do not find myself
34:09
in a parma in which I find myself here doing plural construction. Since my
34:13
ecrelium I thought you were doing a manual on how Penadez gets caught, but
34:22
I' m not telling him I was seeing anything in Netflix, nor did
34:24
I see River' s game, not Argentina. Beyond that, a river
34:27
paper, but there' s a quiet reality. You wanted to talk about
34:34
political violence. One more thing, in Mexico, he lets me pull something
34:37
out of the stirrup of our talk last week. I can go ahead.
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Well, I remind you of how hearing you don' t always follow us.
34:44
You also hear it a lot later when you send audio, that uploads
34:46
the audio to social networks, but so much in duvo that you saw it.
34:49
I put it on. We had agreed with Gustavo. He should do
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a little bit of it, as a political consultant, to explain to me
34:54
if I was Mauridioma Cris, what I saw to the fame Crial pro in
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the context of good the presence of libertaris has the is. You told me
35:02
a little bit as good that pro was no longer the change, that it
35:05
was a little bit like the old has eclipsed, that he has almost no
35:09
choice but to dock up, to approach. I ask, then, if
35:13
that were the case, what a sting of a Nacho Torres who yesterday declared
35:19
to Novadecio that if there is going to be an electoral union, as Bulrich
35:22
asks, he leaves the pro What remains of that most centrist, minimal Social
35:30
- Democratic agenda, but part of that pro agenda with this support for the
35:37
decriminalization of abortion making the state management efficient, but he is not putting a
35:42
bomb in the state, inclusive in part of the theme villas, in the
35:45
city government, with good management. I mean, I mean, you understand
35:46
what I mean by a part of certain looks, a certain part of the
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pros and center trend. And I' m going to say that it'
35:54
s also inevitable or inevitable to run to the right. What remains of those
35:59
principles or part of those ideas are erased by or run or swept away by
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the current running to the right. Marta on the right. Question Good look,
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Fernando. I think we' re part of an analysis of magical realism.
36:15
And I, given the circumstances and events that happen all day in the
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country, the behavior of the actors on both sides, I think we should
36:27
rethink what those ideological variables are and if I really tell you. A while
36:37
ago. I have a brother of mine who still belongs to a famous nostalgic
36:50
institution, which is the Committee on Economic Affairs of the Radical Civic Union,
36:55
an institution founded I believe in the 1950s, because great economists at the time
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García Vázquez, felicalizales, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et
37:08
cetera. Well, a while ago he sent me my brother saying and that
37:15
they raised or rescued a book from the 1950s, the need to save the
37:21
country, prologue, to hoist Aldo Ferrer, etcetera, etcetera. And it
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tells me this is again to say what the Radical Civic Union is proposing in
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economic matters from this historic committee, something of a decade ago, something of
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seventy years ago. It' s like saying that Peronism goes out to do
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what' s in the famous Fortnight Plan. So I think we' re
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saying we' re in a society of permanent changes, of evolutions, of
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a dynamism Google the most recent teacher, what for the good, but it
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' s a lot to see from pro When did Mauricio Man assume I ask
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year well, in two thousand fifteen, ten years ago. You are going
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to tell me that this is recent, ten years, that is, unfortunately,
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and with everything that was charged in the middle of those ten years from
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a social situation beyond sanitary, that was the pandemic, that changed all the
38:30
prototypes, ways of acting, ways of behaving, even of incapacity or of
38:38
solving the problems that emerged from the pandemic. Then I' d tell you
38:46
that even today the Macris government is old and everything that happened at the time
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has happened. Then I don' t know if I' ll argue,
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if you make that decision. I don' t hang out. I'
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m going to another space, create a new space, etcetera. I believe
39:06
that the issues have not yet landed beyond the ideological paths with which they can
39:10
be analyzed from this political realism we are living for, where, obviously,
39:17
we continue with a goal how we solve the problems for the people and we
39:27
still have no answers, including those being rowed out by the President, within
39:32
the South act of today, to sing and present the Book of Moon even
39:37
because until that we do not let go of the President' s transgressive personality.
39:47
But you couldn' t imagine and that in the opinion of any political
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virgin of our country. Beyond the ideological, not what we would have a
40:00
rebel who had the audacity to go to Spain, say in the face of
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the Spanish Head of Government. Your wife is a corrupt woman. Don'
40:10
t turn around and it' s like nothing else happened. That seems to
40:16
me like the times we saw, crazy times we live in, let'
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s say, but I don' t doubt them Fernando at any time I
40:27
doubt them. But before they didn' t even put themselves in the imagination
40:31
to think about it. And now and now, even our imagination, to
40:37
say eye that is possible and that' s why we criticize it. But
40:43
no one would have thought before of taking that point of irreverent of making that
40:51
kind of deal in a relationship more than historical friendly. I don' t
40:57
know brotherly or whatever I want to call her with Spain. Not then.
41:02
I believe that we are in stopping the ball and putting ourselves to rethink absolutely
41:07
everything, including alliances or political behaviors and pro as I tell you what he
41:19
did and in some aspects that I share, let' s say the themes
41:25
of rapprochement, social inclusion, on the topic of urbanism, in the city
41:29
of Buenos Aires, and they handled it with some responsibility and success. Okay,
41:35
but also what' s next. That' s it, what keeps
41:39
doing the same thing again, reinventing itself. I believe that today political structures
41:44
have to be reinverted, even if you want to stay, not go back,
41:50
for example, with abortion. Not that there' s a project,
41:52
but at least it' s in the imagination, in the libertarian. The
41:57
Secretary of Worship said so the other day he spoke of even the woe of
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vigor. I don' t care about it 20 years ago, let'
42:05
s say we' re good, but let' s see, but I
42:09
think the scheme and I would answer it within the President' s thinking say
42:15
liberal, do what you want to do. I' m not going to
42:19
hurt him or condemn him. Make your life out of what you want a
42:23
potato, as they say. There' s this good one, just as
42:30
the official has that opinion. Okay. The citizenry or character at the time
42:34
will have the decision whether to do it or not. I think that all
42:38
of a sudden we are too many, too obsessed with the coma, the
42:45
word, etcetera, which is said on either side, are subjects of conversation,
42:52
of debate, of filling pages, but they are not really solving problems.
42:58
That' s a person who does or doesn' t abort, thinks
43:01
about getting divorced, or doesn' t plan to get divorced, and that
43:07
doesn' t affect him, let' s say, or doesn' t
43:07
solve him. Rather this is the weight of the handmaiden, of the school,
43:10
and let' s not say the work. The economy, not everything
43:15
in the economy. There are also social issues that affect the VI, but
43:19
that, that' s after. The issue of divorce contains a madness and
43:24
well, it doesn' t have something, it doesn' t have,
43:30
but well, to see the issue is to lift it and measure it.
43:34
I' m asking you, and as you say, there' s no
43:37
point. You' ve permeated that in society. He' s up at
43:43
these points. Then to see are perhaps inappropriate expressions of a person who perhaps
43:51
should not be in that position. Okay, well, on Sundays, he
43:57
kicks off in Mexico, which long ago knows the winning candidate sung, which
44:01
is the official candidate that Manuel López Obrador put. I' ve talked to
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you, too, we' ve talked enough already. Let' s say
44:08
here so much that we got a little bit into Mexico, which was the
44:13
first woman president in Mexico' s history. We have also talked about it
44:15
that way, but beyond the process that I believe, Fernando, which is
44:22
the elections of greater political mobility that he has had in history. We are
44:30
voting approximately or are voting because it was voted by twenty- seven hundred public
44:37
officials. Nearly ninety- nine million people are voting Ninety- nine million people
44:45
are voting. No, it' s not mandatory. The electoral roll made
44:49
it ninety- nine million and it votes half a little more than half.
44:54
Historically, the average is half and sometimes less than half. We' ve
45:02
got the case past. Peña grandchild came to power with thirty- three percent
45:06
of the population. There aren' t three. Or thirty- three had
45:10
thirty- three percent share. No, and also his tumbers were also in
45:22
low percentage. You don' t have representative districts, where you have an
45:30
average of twenty- three to twenty- five percent and compared to six years
45:38
ago, you don' t have. Today the candidate doesn' t amount
45:44
to anything but what adds up to you. The sea is no longer lukewarm
45:49
or true forgiveness. Give everything you say, forgive me. The split mark,
45:53
the party mamarca, or I see the mark, or it' s
45:59
in the past, Manuel creates a mark where he' s not represented,
46:05
but it leaves the imprint of his party mark. I mean, I'
46:07
m voting for Morena, which is her party. No, and I think
46:10
today the brand openly outstrips the candidates. But, on the other hand,
46:16
this very broad process is becoming the most violent choice in Mexico' s history.
46:24
Since the electoral process began last October, there are already forty- five
46:31
candidates killed mainly at the municipal level for land disputes and transit routes. I
46:43
don' t know if, well, I' m Mike clearer than the
46:49
routes traffic organized crime. Let us say fundamentally also, in provinces in the
46:54
State of the Federation, where there is a very strong share of the crime
46:59
carried out warrior. Much is being said about Chiapas, which is the southern
47:02
border at this very difficult time. For that matter, let us say of
47:10
all the migratory flows from Central America and other countries that use as a crossing
47:16
point for the United States. We are talking practically about fifteen zero councillors who
47:23
are going to vote throughout the country, one thousand eight hundred intendents and so
47:30
on, which generates us say different states of feeling about the violence that is
47:42
taking place this weekend in the town of Chiapas of those forty- five.
47:45
Well, there were fifteen municipal authorities killed by different acts of violence to the
47:54
point that practically the federal government has to that at this time today, four
48:06
hundred and seventy or so candidates are receiving direct protection from the federal government to
48:14
guarantee their safety. Four yes, and there is approximately forgiveness of the data,
48:20
but the dimension also compares those of our country. Not approximately is the
48:29
National Guard, that is, the Security Force, already destined to today three
48:32
thousand elements that are protecting candidates for popular positions. So, if we analyze
48:45
all that, obviously, we can understand and analyze by pardoning to the redudance
48:57
the state of virulence that is perceived above all at local levels in the process
49:02
that is going to take effect next June 2, and that the management of
49:07
López actador was far from having achieved political victories in that sense. So,
49:12
in terms of security and arcs of course, that is, it has been
49:17
a failed strategic, because there are still very strong interests. There' s
49:27
interest, let' s say. I do not stop thinking with some optimism
49:30
that his strategy of violently attacking the causes that generate violence is important, but
49:40
obviously it has not been managed operatives or a strategy. Let' s say.
49:47
Okay, on the one hand, I warn, but also what'
49:55
s going on upstairs, not, and that' s where we practically say
50:02
the opposition most condemns him in the sense that he hasn' t put his
50:09
hand in front of other stages in frontal fights against organized crime. How is
50:19
the topic was talking organizes How is the topic of prisons. You saw that
50:22
each time you read there are problems in Ecuador, etcetera, etcetera. There
50:25
are not so many jail inmates and they continue to run their prison businesses as
50:30
is the cartel issue, for example, Look at the prison system. There
50:36
are virtually maximum- security prisons where they are supposed to be occupied by high
50:47
- ranking maximum- security criminals. But that' s also not what we
50:52
talk about, not the privileges of those leading bosses in certain prisons. Practically
51:00
first it will be sane, it won' t be analyzed, it won
51:09
' t talk and I' ll tell you. It is not an issue
51:10
on the daily agenda of the prison state. Prisons are missing, but it
51:16
is not a human rights state to be seen routine visits are made, but
51:22
they do not enter the gene agenda curiously, of any candidate you say well,
51:28
our proposal is to do more jail and nothing else. Not that.
51:32
You don' t talk, no, no, no, and you don
51:37
' t think of any singing, that is, no candidate has an interest
51:40
in doing it for others. No, because that could be a vicious circle.
51:45
On the one hand, we have the role of justice. We'
51:52
re not having ninety- eight percent of the cases that come to justice unsolved.
52:00
So there begins the whole beginning of the circle no, with which I
52:08
believe that what follows is a very interesting process, where we are going to
52:15
have the absence of the leading figure who marked the political line and political agenda
52:22
of the last six years or much more in the country, more than six
52:27
years and we are going to really find ourselves with enough factors that are going
52:38
to be necessary much capacity, much dialogue and much more than the brand.
52:44
I could tell you today with total analytical honesty that that brand, which today
52:51
is going to triumph in the elections, is not going to have or will
52:55
not retain the same weight for the next six years. And that does not
53:02
mean that the opposition is going to grow, but it is going to be
53:06
the wear and tear of the lack of a leading figure, as it is
53:10
the one that marked Andrés Manuel. Andres Manuel passes to invier barracks no.
53:14
I remember a bit like the history of Mexico not according to itself. Well,
53:17
obviously, Mexican politics as well as the pre- Hispanic politics of indigenous
53:27
dynasties. The Authority enters a state of wintering until the last day of their
53:34
lives. At another time he didn' t even have a chance to give
53:40
an opinion, or to appear his name in any column or even media.
53:46
Now that' s not going to be because it can have its own networks,
53:52
but in itself it stops talking and being a reference for the country'
53:55
s politics for the rest of its life. But the king is dead.
54:01
Long live the clear king. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
54:05
something we can' t even imagine here. No. That' s
54:07
why not at all. You don' t decide the exact doctor. Yeah,
54:14
yeah, yeah. In fact, in times they sent him to diplomatic
54:17
destinations, but not even of hierarchy. No guy sent you to an African
54:25
country and all that so you could enjoy the bonoms of diplomatic franchises. But
54:32
the further it was, the better it would be. Sure, well,
54:39
well, yeah, then you can do a story with us. For example,
54:44
Andrés Manuel may have the challenge. I get it, because he'
54:46
ll talk outside, even if it' s not even a joke, yes
54:51
way in Time magazine or construction, but he calls it. He could talk
54:52
like that. Let' s say to the select, you could talk to
54:58
yourself. I say again if there has been a lot of atomization in recent
55:01
years. The issue is really what your role is going to be. No,
55:07
because there are also the interests and political history of the daily life of
55:15
Mexico, always the successor, even if he has had the satisfaction of his
55:23
predecessor, does everything possible to keep the predecessor saying in the catacombs, without
55:34
being able to speak and without being able to give an opinion and mantle,
55:42
for years we know how much this anecdote applies. It was you, I
55:45
don' t think you told me years ago. If I' m not
55:49
mistaken that your predecessor leaves you, he says look here you have the drawer.
55:52
Any problems. One of the saternances opens this envelope that says to blame
55:55
it on the ancestor. You didn' t tell me twenty- three,
55:59
millions of years ago, how it applies in Mexico. I mean, there
56:01
' s a problem, and the new president can blame him. Lopez Orador,
56:06
no, no, not between them, as I think I told you.
56:10
I do not know whether the past programme foresaw, or whether there are
56:15
economic problems and, above all, within it this political space. Well,
56:23
where did your campaign come from? It' s not like I' d
56:29
say today. It' s if he had been the president and the issue
56:36
of numbers, Alberto would tell him to see your campaign came out of these
56:42
levels of inflation, evaluation adjustments and so on. No, I mean,
56:46
don' t complain. You have six years to fix your problem and return
56:52
the money that was spent on your campaign. Not those covenants, not written,
57:02
but respected. It' s very possible. Let' s say that
57:12
first, within an economy that may have several but ordered to be the main
57:19
issue, let' s say an economic problem. It' s usually a
57:23
social problem. It is not economic and it is economic where it is distributed.
57:29
That' s a bit of a schedule. Nobody says they left the
57:32
box empty, not even the intents. Interestingly well, but well like a
57:44
taste, as always we find, a hug eximo Wednesday, okay, a
57:49
hug yes, big hug. Gustavo Carrerily Golfes are our co- responsible North
57:53
America. He' s more of a correspondent than ever. Speaking of the
57:55
Presidential of Te Viera in Mexico with a sung result, and the successor of
58:00
López Orlador will be the one that he says was ex o s hours.
58:04
It must be announced mayor' s license of the ruling city of Méxifolds.
58:08
Wednesday comes just when he' ll be back with us with so much Gustavo.
58:12
I tell you that we have an interesting debate of half an hour forty
58:15
minutes, twenty- five minutes with Agustín Monteverde close to the government of Miley,
58:22
very close to our official and Alejandro Peyrú, collaborators our Facebook this time
58:29
Montehore also on the economy, with two very very, very different looks or
58:31
societies. We' re leaving, we' ll find out tomorrow at four
58:36
o' clock in the afternoon and tomorrow we' ll do another day next
58:39
to Camilo Tifornia, we' ll see what happens with Don Friend Blue tomorrow,
58:44
as I tell you all, to back up our intergalactic leader, to
58:49
the moon part, I' m already running. I' m going to
58:50
find Juan on the radio, also everyone Silvia, because he' s in
58:52
Italy, in our Pocoulitarian production, but I already am. Juan is ready
58:54
for you, I' ll pick you up in half an hour. Thank
58:59
you. It will be until tomorrow by Bay plural construction led by Fernando Mauri
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