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Wired To Hunt Podcast #182: Rut Radio 11/8/17 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one two
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Speaker 1: and today we're back with another RUT radio episode in
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Speaker 1: which we're getting from the field reports on the progress
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Speaker 1: of the White Tail rout and today we're getting updates
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Speaker 1: from states such as Missouri, Ohio, Georgia, West Virginia, and more.
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, real quick, before we get started, just want
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Speaker 1: to ask you for a little forgiveness here because of
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Speaker 1: some audio quality issues you're gonna hear coming up here.
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Speaker 1: We had to record our little intro between me and
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Speaker 1: Spencer while I was on the road calling in from
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Speaker 1: a cell phone, so I'm gonna sound a little bit
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Speaker 1: different than usual. Thanks for bearing with me, and with
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Speaker 1: out of the way, we'll kick it to the show.
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Speaker 1: All right. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought
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Speaker 1: to you by Sicking here, and we are back here
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Speaker 1: for another one of our radio editions of the podcast.
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Speaker 1: And as you can tell from how I sound, probably
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Speaker 1: I'm not recording this in my usual studio because it's
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Speaker 1: the RUT and I'm all over the world right now
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Speaker 1: chasing bucks. And uh, how about you, Spencer, you uh,
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Speaker 1: you've been out and about and uh talking to a
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Speaker 1: lot of people about deer hunting at least right Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I am in South Dakota. I'm about to hit a
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Speaker 1: two week marathon of of hunting here and I'm excited
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Speaker 1: to get back in in the woods in this part
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Speaker 1: of the world. But I've been doing some scouting and
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Speaker 1: stuff to anticipate those seasons, and the rut is absolutely here.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's more of a perception
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Speaker 1: of the rut because now a lot of the crops
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Speaker 1: are knocked down and things are more visible or or
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Speaker 1: what it is. But I'm starting to see some bucks
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Speaker 1: and doughs that are you know, locked down out in
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Speaker 1: some crp or uh, you know, bucks just cruising midday
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Speaker 1: and cut corn fields. But the the activity is definitely
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Speaker 1: up here in South Dakota. And I think we're talking
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Speaker 1: to the rare Ohio Mark Kenyon right now, what do
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Speaker 1: you see in there? Yes? Um, very My buddies have
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Speaker 1: been down on how the past few days. Not a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of action for them so far. Um, I
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Speaker 1: just have got down here, had kind of a slow day,
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Speaker 1: but I've heard of other people there's there's some good actions,
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Speaker 1: some good activity, and um and I guess we should
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Speaker 1: we should rewind the tape just a little tiny bit,
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Speaker 1: just in case someone is new and listening to the
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Speaker 1: first time, because I didn't do my usual explanation of
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Speaker 1: what this radio episode is. So just in case you're
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Speaker 1: not familiar with what we're doing here on these special
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Speaker 1: episodes of the podcast, we are checking in with a
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Speaker 1: handful of different hunters across the country to talk about
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Speaker 1: you know what me and Stunts have just been mentioned here,
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Speaker 1: and that's the progress of the rut, what kind of
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Speaker 1: deer activities out there, what kind of deer behavior, what
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Speaker 1: kind of conditions are present, what kinds of tactics are
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Speaker 1: working right now? Um. So, so that's what we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do here today. And uh and so that's why you know,
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Speaker 1: Spencer just asked me here about what's going on in Ohio.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot to stay around the
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Speaker 1: Ohio front. Um, I can say on the Michigan front,
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Speaker 1: that's where I've been in the last like nine days,
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Speaker 1: and the activity in Michigan has been really great. Um.
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Speaker 1: The rut activity at least in my neck of the woods,
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Speaker 1: and some of my friends have been out. I would
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Speaker 1: put up there at eight or nine. Um. Lot of chasing,
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Speaker 1: lots of you know, cruising. I've seen bucks lockdown, does
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Speaker 1: I've seen I saw button buck trying to mount his mom.
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Speaker 1: That was a little weird. Um. And I started for
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Speaker 1: fighting too. So there's lots of rutting activity from my
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Speaker 1: Michigan hunt. Um. I think it's I think it's about
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Speaker 1: as good as it gets for for the rut down here. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and we're about to get into the silly season here
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Speaker 1: of where do you disappear? New deer show up and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And this last week I've been really
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Speaker 1: surprised with how many guys have killed their target buck. Um,
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Speaker 1: have you been seeing a lot of the deer that
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Speaker 1: you know you've been seeing all year there in Michigan
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Speaker 1: outside of Holy Field, that you've seen a lot of
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Speaker 1: the bucks that you're familiar with? Still, Yeah, basically every
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Speaker 1: deer I've seen is a deer that I know. I
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten any newcomers on camera really or in person obsteration,
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Speaker 1: but all the bucks that I have had on camera
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Speaker 1: I've been seeing them pretty consistently. Um, you know, run around,
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Speaker 1: chasing does I've seen the activity. I've seen, you know,
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Speaker 1: all times the day activity. So so yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of normanous kind of area that I'm
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Speaker 1: hunting in Michigan. I don't tend to get a whole
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Speaker 1: lot of new bucks and that might be kind of
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Speaker 1: unique to my area. Um, but but you know, like
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Speaker 1: you said, this is the time of year when you
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Speaker 1: start getting those excursions happening, new starts showing up, or
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Speaker 1: about Stuben hunting start disappearing. Um. Have you been hearing
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Speaker 1: that from other guys you talked to as well? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it seems like a couple new dear is starting to
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Speaker 1: show up, and most noticeably it's been that the mature
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Speaker 1: deer are starting to move. And who we talked to
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Speaker 1: you this week is Sean Lucktel with Heartland bow Hunter
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Speaker 1: and Missouri, and then Lindsay Thomas Jr. In Georgia with
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Speaker 1: q D m A. And then from the Average Outdoorsman
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Speaker 1: in West Virginia we have Zach Lamb and then we
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Speaker 1: go to North Dakota and talk to John Armand from
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Speaker 1: Ultimate Outdoor Adventures TV. And then in Michigan. We have
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Speaker 1: Cole Stevens with hawk Hunting awesome well, sounding a good slate.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot more to share on
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Speaker 1: monstro because um on our regular episode of Wren Podcast,
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Speaker 1: I'll share some interesting stories of what's been happening for me.
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Speaker 1: But anything else in your sun sponsor before we get
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Speaker 1: to these right reports, I don't think so. I'm excited
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Speaker 1: that mid November is upon us, but it's also that
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Speaker 1: kind of a stressful time, as I'm sure you're I
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Speaker 1: was feeling with holy Field that, like you know, these
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Speaker 1: are the best days, so that there's a little more
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Speaker 1: pressure in the woods. Yeah, that's uh, that is the truth.
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Speaker 1: I did feeling the pressure, been grinding away at it
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Speaker 1: and and I will tell more all about that in
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Speaker 1: the next episode. How about that? That sounds good. We'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Mark. Alright, thanks. Before we
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Speaker 1: at the time, getting ready to turn twelve. I'm decided
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Speaker 1: he wanted to go out and chase the white tail
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Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. First in Misery is
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Speaker 1: Sean Lucti with heart Lambow Hunter. Now, Sean in Missouri,
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Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activities been lee on
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Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten? Hey, I would say
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Speaker 1: the bluck activity on a scale of one to ten
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Speaker 1: is probably a six or seven right now. As far
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Speaker 1: as what I'm seeing based on a couple or a
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Speaker 1: block I saw two days ago, he was locked down
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Speaker 1: in the middle of a field with the dough UM
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Speaker 1: four and a half year old that I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of history with UM. I believe that most of
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Speaker 1: the bucks are locked down with those right now. So
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of buck activity is decreased
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Speaker 1: because they're locked down with the does not moving trying
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Speaker 1: to seek. The only ones that are are the ones
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Speaker 1: that don't have a dough. So it's a little bit
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Speaker 1: lower right now. As far as what I'm seeing and
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Speaker 1: the timing of what you think is a lockdown phase
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Speaker 1: right now? Historically would you say it's a little bit
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Speaker 1: earlier or later than this seems to be a little
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Speaker 1: bit earlier compared to last year, are previous years, and
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Speaker 1: so with it being locked down, what is your strategy
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Speaker 1: right now if we're trying to get one with your
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Speaker 1: bow actually focusing more on timber and betting areas, hoping
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Speaker 1: that that dough is gonna come by that has that
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Speaker 1: buck with her and so have you seen signmaking go
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Speaker 1: completely silent right now as far as scrapes and drubs, No,
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Speaker 1: I'm still seeing some of it here and there. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely decreased over the past week. But the ones
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Speaker 1: that don't have does right now seem to still be
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Speaker 1: making scrapes and in rubs all right, Sean Will, Missouri's
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Speaker 1: gun season opens this weekend. How do you think that's
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Speaker 1: going to change the bucket activity and change things for
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Speaker 1: a bowl hunter like yourself with the season the gun
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Speaker 1: season opening, I think it's gonna it's gonna make things
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Speaker 1: tougher because certain bucks may start to drop off the
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Speaker 1: map as though they could get shot. Hunting pressure is
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Speaker 1: going to be up, so it could move them out
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Speaker 1: of certain areas that I that I think they're gonna be. Um,
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna make things a little more complicated. But
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Speaker 1: I try to not pressure a certain areas as much
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Speaker 1: during this time period and hopes that a lot of
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Speaker 1: deer will concentrate in areas that aren't pressured. Well, if
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Speaker 1: you think we are in lockdown right now and this
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Speaker 1: is a little bit earlier than normal, what do you
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Speaker 1: think caused at a weather front, moon phase, harvest, anything
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Speaker 1: in particular, I would have to think that it's the
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Speaker 1: moon phase for sure. Um. It seems that a week
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Speaker 1: and a half ago we had a rising moon um
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Speaker 1: in the evening, and then then now it's it's it's
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Speaker 1: rising in the middle of the night. I just I
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Speaker 1: do believe that that has something to do with the
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Speaker 1: lockdown phase in the run being a little bit earlier
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Speaker 1: this year. Well, you do any calling right now as
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Speaker 1: far as grunting, don't bleeds anything like that. I'm attempting it.
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Speaker 1: I've been rattling and I haven't been too successful. Um.
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Speaker 1: If I do see a buck cruising, I definitely ground
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Speaker 1: at him. Um if he's a decent size, just to
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Speaker 1: get him to come in closer um, and I've had
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Speaker 1: some success, and then other times it's kind of they
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Speaker 1: have their on their their mission and they might hear it,
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Speaker 1: but they're not they're not too interested. Well, if we
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Speaker 1: have some of the more mature bucks in lockdown right now,
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Speaker 1: like in this next week, what is your strategy going
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Speaker 1: to change for hunting them? Will you focus back on
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Speaker 1: food again or will you continue to look for those doughs.
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Speaker 1: I will definitely be looking for the doughs uh this
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Speaker 1: uh this coming week, as I think once a lot
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Speaker 1: of these doughs come or a lot of these bucks
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Speaker 1: come off of these doughs, I think they'll be seeking
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Speaker 1: new doughs. So go over the doughs bar, and I
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Speaker 1: believe to define the box. All right, we'll going into
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Speaker 1: this weekend as we hit the double digits in November,
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Speaker 1: what is your ideal set up look like for trying
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Speaker 1: to tag the mature deer? Travel corridors. Um. It's still
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Speaker 1: not going to concentrate too much on the food. I'll
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Speaker 1: probably wait two weeks for that, but just just travel
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Speaker 1: corridors in the timber um and hopes that I can
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Speaker 1: catch a buck cruising um through pinch Point or maybe
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Speaker 1: heading from one adding area to another, just trying to
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Speaker 1: cut them off and going forward. Sean, in this next
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Speaker 1: week or so, what do you think that that buck
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Speaker 1: activity is going to look like on the skill of
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Speaker 1: one to tendu, Missie. I think it'll pick back up,
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Speaker 1: probably back to an eight or nine, maybe even possibly
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Speaker 1: attend You never know this time of year. I think
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Speaker 1: you get a pocket of days that are really really
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Speaker 1: good and then they can flow back down again. So
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Speaker 1: making sure that I'm in the woods when those those
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Speaker 1: couple of days there are are there. Um, that's gonna
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Speaker 1: be my goal. A right, Cheneral. It sounds like you're
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Speaker 1: gonna be putting in the time. So some good thanks
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Speaker 1: to coming, good luck, thanks for joining me, thanks a lot,
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Speaker 1: all right and joining us on the line. Next is
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Speaker 1: Lindsay Thomas Jr. The director of Communications for q d
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Speaker 1: M A. Now, Lindsay and Georgia. What would you say
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Speaker 1: the bucket activity has been lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten. I'd say the last week or so
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Speaker 1: it's really been six to eight throughout most of the state. Um,
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Speaker 1: we had a warm spell here this past weekend. Uh
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Speaker 1: what November four and five, we were up in the eighties,
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Speaker 1: you know, eight throughout most of the state and higher
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Speaker 1: and some of the other areas. But um, which didn't help.
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Speaker 1: You know, hunting wasn't all that comfortable. Mosquitoes were oute
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Speaker 1: but deer activity was still pretty good and and there
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Speaker 1: are some good bucks being killed. So we're a six
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Speaker 1: to eight throughout most of the state. Got a cold
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Speaker 1: front incoming right now, so I'm expecting this weekend to
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Speaker 1: be jam up with eight to ten coming up soon.
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Speaker 1: So it being a six d eight right now. What
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Speaker 1: would you label this phase as the rut that we're
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Speaker 1: in in Georgia most of the state, central part of
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Speaker 1: the state, we are right in the heat of it. Um.
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Speaker 1: We know from data most of the breeding takes place
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Speaker 1: from November three fourth through you know, into the teams
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Speaker 1: of November and throughout most of central Georgia. Now in
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Speaker 1: coastal Georgia, Southeast Georgia, we have a slightly earlier rut.
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Speaker 1: We are maybe coming off the peak there. I was
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Speaker 1: down there um a week and a half ago, October
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Speaker 1: thirtieth hunting in Southeast Georgia. Right there in kind of
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Speaker 1: the peak of it. We had, uh that windy weather
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Speaker 1: that most of the southeast saw that weekend, but the
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Speaker 1: deer were moving. Um, so I think we're behind the
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Speaker 1: peak of the rut uh in Southeast Georgia. But it
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Speaker 1: is really, you know, in in the heart of it
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Speaker 1: right now in Central Georgia. Now Southwest Georgia and Northeast
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Speaker 1: Georgia both see a little bit later rut. They get
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Speaker 1: into late November into early December for their peak, So
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Speaker 1: that's not happening quite yet. Uh, they're still in a
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Speaker 1: pre rut. But I think in the vast majority of
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Speaker 1: the state, most of the heart of Georgia and Central Georgia,
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Speaker 1: we are uh just coming into really the prime days.
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Speaker 1: And like I said, I think that the timing of
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Speaker 1: the cold front coming up this weekend. Um, folks need
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Speaker 1: to be in the woods. Well, lindsay next week. Most
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Speaker 1: hunters envisioned the phase that they consider lockdown, where bucks
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Speaker 1: aren't moving too much for maybe a couple of day
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Speaker 1: window where uh, you know, bucks and dealers are bettered
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Speaker 1: down in the when a lot of the breeding is
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Speaker 1: taking place. What are your thoughts on the lockdown phase.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe there is such a thing, Spencer, Um,
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Speaker 1: and the scientific evidence shows and we're talking about numerous
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Speaker 1: numerous studies with bucks wearing GPS collars looking at their
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Speaker 1: daily movement rates. Um. Scientific studies like that have never
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Speaker 1: seen evidence of a lockdown phase or a lull that
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Speaker 1: would be on a level noticeable two hunters. Uh. Yes,
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Speaker 1: an individual buck may stop and and cease movements and
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Speaker 1: and spend a few hours with an individual dough. But
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Speaker 1: again that's not gonna be on the level where hunters,
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Speaker 1: you know, hunting day to day are going to notice. Wow,
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Speaker 1: you know bucks just aren't moving today because they're locked down.
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Speaker 1: Generally we know that. Uh, this is the time of
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Speaker 1: year when a buck is covering of his home range.
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Speaker 1: Uh So generally, if you're not seeing a buck you
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Speaker 1: had been seeing, he's somewhere else. Um So you need
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Speaker 1: to be, you know, moving around. Again. This is the
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Speaker 1: time of year where you know, peak breeding, and that's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen no matter what the weather is doing. That's
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Speaker 1: why my feeling is get in the woods if you
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Speaker 1: can take your days off from work, if you can. Um.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned that, Uh, weekend before last Octople twenty nights,
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Speaker 1: I was down in southeast Georgia and my family's land.
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Speaker 1: The winds that that afternoon. That Sunday afternoon, we had
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Speaker 1: a strong front grow through. The winds were exceeding twenty
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Speaker 1: miles per hour. I mean, the tree I was in
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Speaker 1: was swaying back and forth. And at five thirty in
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Speaker 1: the afternoon, I'm looking at a mature buck out of
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Speaker 1: range in my binoculars and my dad actually saw him
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Speaker 1: too from a different vantage point. Um, neither one of
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Speaker 1: us had a shot adding up his feet drifting around,
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Speaker 1: you know, moving in super high winds. So when it's time,
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Speaker 1: it's time, Uh, don't let the weather discourage you. You You
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Speaker 1: need to be out there well with being in that
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Speaker 1: best wrought action in Georgia. What does your ideal set
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Speaker 1: up look like right now? You know, going forward in
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Speaker 1: this next week or so, we've still got um white
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Speaker 1: oak acorns on the ground, most of them are out
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Speaker 1: of the trees. But it was a bump a crop
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Speaker 1: in a lot of the state is what I'm hearing
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Speaker 1: this year. So you know, that's still a factor in
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Speaker 1: terms of determining where the does are gonna be. UM.
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Speaker 1: So you know, try to put yourself where you feel
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Speaker 1: like the most um dough activity and food sources are available.
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Speaker 1: Food plots are looking good in most of the state.
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Speaker 1: We've had enough rain in most areas we're not dry
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Speaker 1: right now for those to germinate and be doing well
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Speaker 1: and looking green. They look real good in coastal Georgia
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Speaker 1: when I was down there a week and a half ago.
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Speaker 1: They're looking good here now in central Georgia. And I think, um,
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Speaker 1: as those white okay corns fade out, you're gonna see
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Speaker 1: more more activity on food plots, uh in you know,
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Speaker 1: the rest of November into Thanksgiving and into December two,
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Speaker 1: So that's gonna become a factor again. Don't sit there
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Speaker 1: and hunt over food plot. If you're not seeing feeding
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Speaker 1: and browling activity there, check the sign, watch it move
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Speaker 1: there when you're ready. But I think between you know,
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Speaker 1: watch that shift between acorns into food plots, you know,
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Speaker 1: right now and into the next couple of weeks. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think you touched on this earlier, but going forward
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Speaker 1: than this next week, what do you think that buck
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Speaker 1: activity is going to look like On a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, I'm gonna say nine to ten. And
18:08
Speaker 1: most of the state we've got again, this cold front
18:11
Speaker 1: coming up is gonna be a good time to be
18:12
Speaker 1: in the woods. Um we're in the peak of historical
18:15
Speaker 1: breeding right now for most counties in the state. Um,
18:18
Speaker 1: we're seeing six state now some nine, and I think, um,
18:22
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really expecting to bust wide open this weekend.
18:25
Speaker 1: In the next week. Some good deer already being killed
18:27
Speaker 1: in the state. But I think you're gonna be seeing
18:30
Speaker 1: sort of the peak of that coming up here in
18:32
Speaker 1: the next week to two. All Right, lindsay, great intel,
18:35
Speaker 1: and thank you for joining me. Thank you for having
18:38
Speaker 1: me since their good luck alright and joining us on
18:42
Speaker 1: the line. Next is Zach Lamb in West Virginia with
18:45
Speaker 1: the average outdoorsmen. Now, Zack in West Virginia, what would
18:48
Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been lately on a
18:50
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. Uh. Here this week it's
18:55
Speaker 1: been about a seven. The there's been more the uh
19:01
Speaker 1: we're starting to get a cold front coming in, so
19:02
Speaker 1: that the activity is slowly starting to pick up. Um,
19:06
Speaker 1: it's been hard hunting here because of the mass croft,
19:08
Speaker 1: so it we we really don't have You can't pinpoint
19:12
Speaker 1: a deer in one general location because they're scattered out
19:15
Speaker 1: all over the place. So what sort of rud activity
19:18
Speaker 1: have you observed so far in early remember, are you
19:21
Speaker 1: seeing some seeking and chasing. Have you seen any bucks
19:23
Speaker 1: locked down? What have you observed? We're seeing some chasing.
19:27
Speaker 1: It's starting to slowly pick up, mostly younger bucks though
19:31
Speaker 1: in the two and a half year olds. Um, we're
19:33
Speaker 1: not seeing a whole lot of older deer, which the
19:36
Speaker 1: older deer around here are only three years old. Um.
19:41
Speaker 1: At the oldest you'll have a four year old. So
19:43
Speaker 1: they're still laying low and hanging tight, and they're still
19:46
Speaker 1: coming in at night. We're slowly starting to get some
19:49
Speaker 1: daytime pictures of them, but we are starting to get
19:53
Speaker 1: pictures of more and more pictures of bucks that we
19:56
Speaker 1: haven't got to see all years, so they're slowly starting
20:00
Speaker 1: filter in. Now. Are there any food sources in particular
20:03
Speaker 1: that you'll focus on as we hit the double digits
20:05
Speaker 1: in November? Of food sources for us this year is
20:09
Speaker 1: going to be mainly oak. Like I said, the mass
20:13
Speaker 1: crop hit hard. Um. We we normally focus on some
20:19
Speaker 1: public land food pots and stuff, but the deer just
20:22
Speaker 1: aren't don't seem to be coming out in the field
20:24
Speaker 1: during the day because of all the masks in the woods.
20:26
Speaker 1: They just they don't have to go anywhere to really feed.
20:31
Speaker 1: They get out of bed and they're right there and
20:33
Speaker 1: her seed. What about with signmaking? Are you seeing an
20:37
Speaker 1: increase or decrease in signmaking with rubbs and scrapes? The
20:42
Speaker 1: rubs are about to same amount they was in early September.
20:47
Speaker 1: The scrapes of slowly started to increase. Uh. Yeah, there
20:54
Speaker 1: there's starting to be a lot more sign But they
20:59
Speaker 1: the scrapes don't seem to be they're active, but they're
21:02
Speaker 1: we're not getting the the bigger deer don't seem to
21:06
Speaker 1: be hitting them as hard as like the younger bucks are.
21:10
Speaker 1: We're getting into the best days of November here. What
21:13
Speaker 1: is your best set up look like? For the right
21:16
Speaker 1: My stand location is going to be the Uh, we're
21:20
Speaker 1: mostly in hill country, not not real real real steep
21:23
Speaker 1: not mountains, but not flat lowlands either. Uh. Around here,
21:28
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of timbering that goes on. So
21:31
Speaker 1: my stand location is going to be like a bench
21:34
Speaker 1: or a tram or an old tram road that's between
21:38
Speaker 1: a bedding area and they're a big oak flat or
21:42
Speaker 1: something and try to catch them in like a transition
21:45
Speaker 1: between their bed and their feet or from the feedback
21:47
Speaker 1: to their bed. But like I said with the different
21:54
Speaker 1: with this the sparsity of our oaks. You'll have a
21:57
Speaker 1: patch here and a patch There's there's nothing really of
22:00
Speaker 1: hundred acres of oaks. It's more like two or three
22:02
Speaker 1: acres here, and then you have a bunch of hickory
22:04
Speaker 1: and beach, and then you have two or three acres
22:06
Speaker 1: of oaks. So it's hard to really pinpoint the deer,
22:09
Speaker 1: but just ming climbing on your favorite patch of oaks
22:14
Speaker 1: and hope and pray that one comes running by and
22:17
Speaker 1: going forward. Then in this next week or so, what
22:19
Speaker 1: do you think the bucket activity is going to be
22:21
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in West Virginia?
22:24
Speaker 1: Like I said, the we're getting a big cold front
22:27
Speaker 1: coming in at the end of the week. Uh so,
22:30
Speaker 1: I think that's going to bump us up from probably
22:32
Speaker 1: a seven to maybe a high eight, eight and a
22:35
Speaker 1: half maybe nine. Um, So, our our rifle season comes
22:39
Speaker 1: in in two weeks, so that our rud always hits
22:42
Speaker 1: about a week before then, so that ought to be
22:44
Speaker 1: pretty well peaked time for us within the next week.
22:48
Speaker 1: All right, Zack, Well, good luck with that cold front
22:50
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining me. All right, thank you, Spencer.
22:53
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23:10
Speaker 1: I'd say the biggest difference is that just the availability
23:13
Speaker 1: the number of older deer is much much lower, so
23:18
Speaker 1: you don't have, you know, a bunch of them to
23:20
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23:52
Speaker 1: Outdoor Adventures TV. Now. John in North Dakota, what would
23:56
Speaker 1: you say the bucket activity has been lately on a
23:58
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, I would have to say
24:01
Speaker 1: it's probably around a three or four. Well, you know,
24:04
Speaker 1: we've talked to a couple of my team members that
24:08
Speaker 1: have been hunting pretty hard. I mean they're out probably
24:11
Speaker 1: every evening and he's still seen almost like bachelor groups
24:16
Speaker 1: of bucks. You seeing six and seven bucks hanging together,
24:19
Speaker 1: and hasn't seen a lot a little bit the younger
24:22
Speaker 1: bucks sniffing around. Um, and that was this last week. So, um,
24:27
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna be going out here tomorrow, so
24:30
Speaker 1: I'll know more tomorrow. But hopefully the activity has picked up.
24:34
Speaker 1: So do you think that we're a ways off some
24:36
Speaker 1: of that really good activity or is it close? I
24:39
Speaker 1: think it's close. I think that you know, for us,
24:42
Speaker 1: it always seems our rifle season opens up this time
24:46
Speaker 1: of year, and um, come this time of year, we
24:48
Speaker 1: usually have them hot and heavy chasing, and I just think,
24:51
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's been. I've talked to several
24:54
Speaker 1: guys across the state from western North Dakota to eastern
24:58
Speaker 1: North Dakota and it's been just kind light. And we
25:01
Speaker 1: were out in Montana and experienced the same thing. Just
25:04
Speaker 1: um the neile deer who seemed like they brought a
25:06
Speaker 1: little bit later when again we saw three to four
25:10
Speaker 1: bucks together and they weren't pushing each other around very much,
25:12
Speaker 1: and they weren't really on the door. So, um, I
25:15
Speaker 1: always I just think it sometimes it just turns on
25:17
Speaker 1: like a light switch and it's go time, and hopefully
25:20
Speaker 1: in the next week it's go time. Well, John, are
25:23
Speaker 1: you guys going through harvest at all there in North Dakota?
25:25
Speaker 1: And how do you think that will change deer hunting
25:27
Speaker 1: for you guys? Well, it's it's made a big difference,
25:31
Speaker 1: might be undershot book on October thirteenth. Um. And the
25:36
Speaker 1: reason I attributed that kill was that we had him
25:39
Speaker 1: on game camera all fall, and um, we got some
25:44
Speaker 1: late season rains and kind of change some growth around,
25:46
Speaker 1: and all our bucks moved out of our river bottoms
25:49
Speaker 1: and we couldn't find them. Didn't have this um buck
25:52
Speaker 1: on trail camera for a month. But then our neighbors
25:55
Speaker 1: chopped at their corn and we got out there two
25:59
Speaker 1: days after they chopped it, and she killed that beautiful
26:02
Speaker 1: eight pointer And it was because he was pushed back
26:06
Speaker 1: out of the crops. So, you know, a lot of
26:07
Speaker 1: our crops out here hold a lot of deer because
26:09
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of trees um different kind
26:12
Speaker 1: of trains, so a lot of these animals will woke
26:14
Speaker 1: bad and live in the corn. So with the corn
26:16
Speaker 1: and sunflowers starting to come off, it's gonna push these
26:19
Speaker 1: deer around a little bit and then get them moving. Well,
26:22
Speaker 1: what are you seeing for signmaking right now? We're finding
26:25
Speaker 1: that rubs and scrapes are still active. Yeah, you know,
26:29
Speaker 1: I had said, a couple of cameras last week and
26:31
Speaker 1: a couple of our go to scrapes that we usually
26:36
Speaker 1: you know, we don't even but I said, a lot
26:39
Speaker 1: of cameras on scrapes because um, you know, whatever bucks
26:42
Speaker 1: in the area comes through there and it kind of
26:44
Speaker 1: gives us an eve until read. A lot of these
26:47
Speaker 1: scrapes that we're just getting hit a little bit have
26:49
Speaker 1: really opened up quite a bit this time of year.
26:52
Speaker 1: So again we're seeing that UM activity um increased quite
26:57
Speaker 1: a bit. And like I said, I think in the
26:59
Speaker 1: next week, you know, gonna shut down just because they're
27:01
Speaker 1: gonna be busy doing doing other things. Well, as we
27:04
Speaker 1: get into some of those better hunting days, what is
27:07
Speaker 1: your best rut set up look like? Well, for us,
27:11
Speaker 1: you know, this time of year, we start rifle hunting,
27:14
Speaker 1: and that the areas we hunt, UM, we hunt some
27:17
Speaker 1: big rolling hills and we sit vantage points. And the
27:21
Speaker 1: reason we do that is we spot deer UM coming
27:24
Speaker 1: from a long runers away and you will see rutting
27:26
Speaker 1: activity all the way around you in different areas, and UM,
27:30
Speaker 1: it gives this advantage to advantage to see these deer
27:35
Speaker 1: at a long distance and kind of see their pattern
27:37
Speaker 1: routes and get ahead of them and then make our
27:39
Speaker 1: move on them. And you know, when we bow hunt
27:42
Speaker 1: again a little different set up then I'm still a
27:45
Speaker 1: lot of my UM concentration is always on the food
27:48
Speaker 1: sources because this time of year, the doors are they're
27:51
Speaker 1: hitting the food sources, and um, where the doors are at,
27:55
Speaker 1: the bucks are going to be. So we try to
27:56
Speaker 1: intercept them going from their bedding area uh to their
28:00
Speaker 1: food source. We're going forward. Then, in this next week
28:03
Speaker 1: or so, what do you think the bucket activity is
28:04
Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to ten
28:06
Speaker 1: in North Dakota. Well, I'm hoping for about a seven, eight,
28:11
Speaker 1: nine or ten. I just think it's gotta it's gotta
28:14
Speaker 1: kick in. We just haven't seen a lot of it.
28:16
Speaker 1: We've got cold temperatures right now, we got a snow
28:19
Speaker 1: under ground, so you know all the signs that helped
28:21
Speaker 1: things along so that we'll see these deer during the
28:24
Speaker 1: daylight and watch them on their feet a little bit longer.
28:27
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping at least a seven, if not an eight. Well, John,
28:31
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys will get something done with that
28:33
Speaker 1: gun season opening. So good luck and thanks for joining me,
28:36
Speaker 1: all right, buddy, thank you very much, alright and joining
28:40
Speaker 1: us on the line. Last is Cole Stevens in Michigan,
28:43
Speaker 1: the digital coordinator for Hawk Hunting Now. Cole in Michigan,
28:47
Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activity has been lately
28:50
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten on a skillet
28:54
Speaker 1: one of ten. In the last week or so, I'd
28:56
Speaker 1: say it's been got a six. Um starting to get
29:01
Speaker 1: study here, and it's picked up a lot since the
29:03
Speaker 1: way he's previous. But I think it's it's on the
29:06
Speaker 1: verge of getting a little bit better here shortly. So
29:09
Speaker 1: are you seeing any mature bucks moving yet or we're
29:12
Speaker 1: still some of those younger age class dear uh? As
29:16
Speaker 1: of right now, it's all the younger age class um personally,
29:21
Speaker 1: It looks like online just the threats and stuff like
29:24
Speaker 1: with that that they are starting to pick up, um
29:28
Speaker 1: significantly they spoken social media and stuff really shows you
29:31
Speaker 1: what part of the state is doing. And personally, most ideas,
29:37
Speaker 1: the bigger than do that I have on camera are
29:39
Speaker 1: still all doctor So so how aggressive are you going
29:43
Speaker 1: to get then? Um? With that dear activity picking up
29:46
Speaker 1: a little, you're gonna try any calling? Are you gonna
29:48
Speaker 1: move in embedding yet? Yeah? You know what I mean,
29:50
Speaker 1: kind of play it by my sight and sound and um.
29:54
Speaker 1: Literally I'm just finding our normal feeding areas, but it's
29:58
Speaker 1: food plot or just on the way to the food plots. Um.
30:02
Speaker 1: Just trying to follow the doors is my big thing
30:04
Speaker 1: right now. Whatever they're doing is is what I'm gonna
30:07
Speaker 1: be trying to get to um and then trying to
30:10
Speaker 1: just chant and see if feed bops, you know, show
30:12
Speaker 1: themselves during daylight the next week or so, or if
30:14
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pulling out and wait until until dark.
30:19
Speaker 1: What was some of our best days of hunting ahead
30:21
Speaker 1: of here? Shortly? What is your best rut set up
30:24
Speaker 1: look like? Personally, it's gonna be tingch points, um just
30:31
Speaker 1: what I I hunt in Uh within three acres and
30:34
Speaker 1: just straight woods pretty much, so I don't really have
30:37
Speaker 1: that that field edge advantage or anything like that. I
30:40
Speaker 1: just got to find where these deer cruising between betting areas,
30:44
Speaker 1: between food slots, where the pressure is you know, on
30:48
Speaker 1: boarding prompanies as a little small small parcels around me.
30:51
Speaker 1: So if I can just find those little little honey
30:54
Speaker 1: holes where they just don't feel comfortable cruising through, uh,
30:57
Speaker 1: that's gonna be amount purpose set up. And are you
31:00
Speaker 1: your trail cameras changed lately as far as location? Are
31:03
Speaker 1: you still running the same setups as you were in October? Uh?
31:09
Speaker 1: Most of them are the same, you know, over large areas.
31:12
Speaker 1: I didn't switch over off scrapes or the scrapes that
31:17
Speaker 1: they popped up, and that seems to be the hotspot
31:21
Speaker 1: right now. It was just putting among lows, but probably
31:24
Speaker 1: be transitioning those soon to back to the open areas.
31:30
Speaker 1: Try and see what there doing. Have you heard a
31:33
Speaker 1: new reports yet in Michigan of devils and bucks being
31:36
Speaker 1: locked down? Not yet? No, no, just I don't know
31:42
Speaker 1: what you would even called. But the phase just before that,
31:45
Speaker 1: you know, just the chasing has been light. Um usually
31:50
Speaker 1: the standing that I said tonight would be a perfect
31:53
Speaker 1: stand up to really serve itt that type of movement,
31:58
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it was quiet. They won't. They
32:00
Speaker 1: won't loosing through. So I think, like I mentioned that,
32:04
Speaker 1: they're still but you're here starting to get their noses
32:08
Speaker 1: wet and the look in the Asian and off and
32:11
Speaker 1: down there. We're going forward. Then in this next week
32:14
Speaker 1: or so, cool, what do you think that bucket activity
32:16
Speaker 1: is going to be in Michigan On a scale of
32:17
Speaker 1: one to ten, I mean still, I'd say about eight. Um,
32:24
Speaker 1: Michigan's shotgun and raffles season starts a week from today, actually,
32:29
Speaker 1: so that's that's gonna be quite the stir in the woods. Um,
32:33
Speaker 1: it always is for bluck activity, you know, usually the
32:36
Speaker 1: first two days of shot then and stuff that us
32:41
Speaker 1: see different pressure and wanting that. But after that, I
32:45
Speaker 1: think it's yeah, probably direct back down for a little while,
32:48
Speaker 1: because you do start to see a little pencil board games,
32:51
Speaker 1: the weekend Warriors and the opening day either they're done blasting.
32:55
Speaker 1: But yeah, in the next next seven seven or ten days,
32:58
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really good. Honey, alright, cool, Well,
33:01
Speaker 1: I hope you're able to get it done before the
33:03
Speaker 1: Orange Army hits the woods. So good luck and thanks
33:05
Speaker 1: for joining me. Yeah, thanks Spencer, and that concludes this
33:10
Speaker 1: week's episode of Wired Haunts Rout Radio. I hope those
33:14
Speaker 1: all days sits haven't gotten to you yet and that
33:16
Speaker 1: you still have some left in the tank for mid November.
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