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Singing in the Strange · Large Nerdron Collider

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Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey everybody, welcome to the Large Nerdron Collider Podcast,
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Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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Speaker 1: about them. I am Aerial casting, and with me, as
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Speaker 1: always is super geeky tech head Jonathan Strickland. Hey, it's
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Speaker 1: spooky season. Boo boo is it? It's it's April according
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Speaker 1: to our news it is. But we'll get that. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I guess I was gonna say. I mean, April fools
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Speaker 1: can be pretty spooky, but well, you know, it's it's
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Speaker 1: it's fun because a couple of our news items tie
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Speaker 1: into spooky stuff, one in particular ties into Halloween. So
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Speaker 1: this episode, I think is going to be a big, happy, warm,
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Speaker 1: fuzzy hug to all of you out there who keep
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Speaker 1: Halloween in their hearts all year long. I'm looking at you,
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Speaker 1: all right. But before we get into any of that,
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Speaker 1: I got a question for you. Okay, Now, Earl, you
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Speaker 1: might not know this, but you and I host a
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Speaker 1: geeky podcast. Wait we do. Yeah, that's not the question.
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Speaker 1: It's just a statement of fact. No, I just I
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Speaker 1: wasn't aware. Um, I've been recording it this whole time.
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Speaker 1: So the question is, what's a what's a different geeg
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Speaker 1: podcast you listen to other than our own, and you
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Speaker 1: can name more than one if you like. I mean
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Speaker 1: so a lot of times when I listened to podcasts, it's, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of the stuff where it's like fiction, right.
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Speaker 1: So I really loved Limetown. I wouldn't necessarily say that
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Speaker 1: was key. It was kind of spoofing on NPR a
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Speaker 1: little bit, and it was kind of scary. So it's
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Speaker 1: not really geeky UM as far as geeky specific stuff.
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Speaker 1: I really like the The Adventure Zone. I really like
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Speaker 1: my bim Bam. I really like saw Bones. Those three
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Speaker 1: that I listened to from the McElroy family are really good.
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Speaker 1: I really like Sawbones. So I'm very very far behind
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Speaker 1: UM other than that occasionally critical role. But it's the
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Speaker 1: episodes are so long. They're so long that I don't
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Speaker 1: normally have that kind of time. I've only watched like
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Speaker 1: little excerpts on YouTube of critical roles, so completely devoid
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Speaker 1: of context, where I don't know anyone's characters or what
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Speaker 1: situation they're in and so the stuff I watch is funny,
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Speaker 1: but it's clearly not as funny as it would be
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Speaker 1: if I were, you know, more heavily invested in the show.
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Speaker 1: But like you, it's one of those things. Two things.
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Speaker 1: One is that there's there The episodes are so long
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Speaker 1: and are so many episodes, particularly if you want to
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Speaker 1: go back to the beginning where they weren't recording their
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Speaker 1: sessions early on. That was literally them just getting together
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Speaker 1: and playing D n D and they only started recording
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Speaker 1: later on. So there there's all this backstory the characters
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Speaker 1: have that you just kind of get parceled out now
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Speaker 1: and then because those those those don't exist as episodes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Um. Other than that, I mean, listen, I've
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Speaker 1: listened to a lot of geeky stuff if you count
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Speaker 1: Cereal is geeky. Um, but I really liked uh. The
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Speaker 1: Stitcher has a couple of seasons of a Wolverine fictional
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Speaker 1: podcast with like celebrity voice actors that's actually really really
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Speaker 1: fun story. It's I mean, it's it's not happy because
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Speaker 1: it's Wolverine, but it's really good. And then the other
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Speaker 1: one that I absolutely adore, and they occasionally come out
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Speaker 1: with stuff, but it's not often. Is The Thrilling Venture Hour,
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Speaker 1: which is old time radio theater, new time radio theater
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Speaker 1: in an old time style, something like that again with
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Speaker 1: a lot of famous actors voice actors, but they do
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Speaker 1: like sci fi, fantasy, horror, goofy, funny comedy stuff and
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Speaker 1: it's like it hits me in all of my sweet
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Speaker 1: happy places. Yeah, my favorite of those. Like they stopped
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Speaker 1: doing them regularly years ago, like they had been recording live.
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Speaker 1: That was another show that had started off as a
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Speaker 1: live show in Los Angeles, and only later did they
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Speaker 1: start recording them um and and releasing them as podcasts.
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Speaker 1: And most of the time the episodes are are fairly
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Speaker 1: self contained. There might be references to earlier stuff, but
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Speaker 1: it's not like you if you miss an episode, you
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Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on. But I remember the
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the names of the characters because it's
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Speaker 1: been so long since they've been publishing, but it was
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Speaker 1: the husband wife team that I love so much, frankn
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Speaker 1: Sadie Doyle, Yes and Sadie that they're They're a wealthy,
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Speaker 1: hard drinking pair of socialites who also uh solve supernatural
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Speaker 1: mysteries and and I loved it because the actress playing
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Speaker 1: Sadie would find incredibly funny ways to mispronounce words in
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Speaker 1: a very snooty fashion, and it was my favorite. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I love that. That's a page. That's Paget Brewster. And
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Speaker 1: then paulaf Tompkins did the voice of of Frank Frank
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Speaker 1: and Statistic Doyle. Um. I loved it because they did
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Speaker 1: a spoof on on like all of Stephen King, so
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Speaker 1: stand by me it. Um, that was absolutely hilarious. My
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Speaker 1: favorite um bit on that show, though, was Sparks Nevada,
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Speaker 1: which was their ranger, their cowboy western on Marsh and
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Speaker 1: Mark Evan Jackson voiced that and Mark Gagliardi did the
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Speaker 1: voice of Coach the track who is the actual Martian? Um.
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Speaker 1: I just thought it was brilliant and well done. You
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Speaker 1: could tell these people had a lot of fun working together. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And uh and those are nice people too. I've met
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Speaker 1: several of them. Um uh, and they're they're absolute joys
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Speaker 1: and very gracious when you talk about how much you
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Speaker 1: love their show. Um. Yeah, those are great, great picks.
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Speaker 1: I the only one I would throw in there, although
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Speaker 1: I haven't watched in a very long time, but I
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Speaker 1: used to be addicted to it was Welcome to Night Veil.
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Speaker 1: I actually have a couple of Night Veil posters hanging
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Speaker 1: on the wall behind me. Um. I've always thought that
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Speaker 1: that was a very fun show. I definitely need to
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Speaker 1: get back into it, because that show started off as
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Speaker 1: sort of feeling like it was a bunch of separate
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Speaker 1: one shot episodes, but it turned out that they were
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Speaker 1: building the foundation for an ongoing story. It's just that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't evident early on, and then as it goes on,
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Speaker 1: it really does become a continuing, unfolding story, and I
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Speaker 1: definitely need to get back into it. It's definitely a
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Speaker 1: kind of bizarre that I had to I mean, I
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Speaker 1: liked it, but I had to like listen to it
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Speaker 1: and spits and starts because sometimes they got really upsetting. Yeah. No,
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's mostly a comedy show, but it
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Speaker 1: has a lot of melancholy in it, and there are
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Speaker 1: times where characters you really like don't make it I mean,
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Speaker 1: like it happens. Um. Yeah, So yeah, are they still going?
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Speaker 1: Are they? Yep? They actually just had a live show
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta last month. Oh wow, I did not realize
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Speaker 1: that because I thought that Cecil, the main guy, had left.
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Speaker 1: He's still there, but yeah, he's he's kind of winding down,
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Speaker 1: um for apparently to keep take care of his own health. So,
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Speaker 1: but those are some other geeky shows that you probably
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Speaker 1: should check out if you're not familiar with them. There
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Speaker 1: are lots of more, I mean like Hello from the
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Speaker 1: Magic Tavern is another one that has been around for
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Speaker 1: ages and ages that I like to listen to. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I'm way behind on that one too, but she got
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Speaker 1: me hooked on that, and so I'm very slowly making
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Speaker 1: my way. That's also one that has a huge backlog
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Speaker 1: to it. Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say name
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Speaker 1: a couple more, Jonathan, so you just did. So now
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Speaker 1: I can't say name a couple more. I mean I could,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's there's so much geek podcast out there.
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Speaker 1: It's it's it's actually quite fantastic, even though it makes
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Speaker 1: this space a little crowded. I love it. Yeah, me too. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about some news, Okay. Our first news is
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Speaker 1: that the cast of the Next Generation is coming back
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Speaker 1: for a season three of A card and like, well,
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Speaker 1: probably not all of them, Like I don't know if
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Speaker 1: we're getting toshi Are Barkley, but we're getting a few
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Speaker 1: of a few more back for season. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if Queen Wheaton is coming back either, but most of
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Speaker 1: them were announced, but I did not see Quill Wheaton's
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Speaker 1: name listed on there, which is awkward because Will Wheaton
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Speaker 1: also hosts like a post Bricard Show kind of thing
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Speaker 1: where he's talked to Patrick Stewart several times, and like you,
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Speaker 1: just Red Letter Media has has cut together some videos
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Speaker 1: that make it look like he's just got a dead
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Speaker 1: stare as he's seeing all the names, but his name
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Speaker 1: hasn't shown up. But yeah, it's it's interesting, like and
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm seeing different camps fall down on
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Speaker 1: whether this is a good thing and it's something to
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Speaker 1: be excited about, or is it a sign that the
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Speaker 1: show is kind of in the weeds and needs a
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Speaker 1: boost like of nostalgia in order to make it relevant. Uh,
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Speaker 1: As you know, I don't follow it. I don't have
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Speaker 1: paramount plus, so I haven't been watching UM and everything
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Speaker 1: I see is filtered through someone else. I watched season one.
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Speaker 1: You I really want to watch season two, but I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to get through Discovery first, because sometimes it doesn't
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Speaker 1: matter what order you watch it in, Like if you
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Speaker 1: watch the little shorts that Paramount plus does it does
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Speaker 1: it does matter when you watch those. So I haven't
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Speaker 1: seen season two yet, but it's only a three season run,
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Speaker 1: and Jerry Ryan, who plays seven of nine, says that
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Speaker 1: it was only ever supposed to be three seasons, like
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Speaker 1: a limited run show. So I don't know, getting someone
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Speaker 1: saying that it needs that boost of nostalgia to keep
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Speaker 1: going feels weird when they were already planning on three
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Speaker 1: and done, unless that's just not truth. Well, the way
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Speaker 1: that I was seeing it, and again this is all
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Speaker 1: from other people, because I have not watched the show,
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Speaker 1: I haven't drawn my own conclusions. But the way I've
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Speaker 1: seen it framed is that these are the only shows
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Speaker 1: that are getting a lot of traction on the platform,
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Speaker 1: So these are the shows that are really valuable to
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Speaker 1: make the platform work, and that uh that there's at
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Speaker 1: least a growing concern about the Star Trek stuff, in
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Speaker 1: particular from certain certain segments of the fandom. But let's
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Speaker 1: be let's face it, like one of the issues about
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Speaker 1: fandoms in general is that you're always going to have
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Speaker 1: sections that will object to anything that goes in a
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Speaker 1: new direction, and others who will embrace it. Um I
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Speaker 1: for Star Trek, I'll be I'll be honest, I'll I'm
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Speaker 1: definitely one of those who is gonna get a little
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Speaker 1: antsy the further away you get from what I feel
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Speaker 1: was the spirit of Star Trek, because I'm like, that's
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Speaker 1: this doesn't feel like Star Trek to me. Like, as
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Speaker 1: much as I love some of the movies, the movies
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Speaker 1: don't feel like Star Trek. Not the series. Like the
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Speaker 1: series feels very, very different from the movies, and that
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Speaker 1: that applies both to the original series and the Next
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Speaker 1: Generation stuff. Yeah, I mean I like a lot of it.
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Speaker 1: But the thing is like, even in the series, you know,
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Speaker 1: I didn't super care for Enterprise. Not every series is
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Speaker 1: for everybody. Some people don't like Deep Space nine, some
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Speaker 1: people don't like Voyage, or some people don't like the
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Speaker 1: Next Generation, even though I I love it. I mean
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Speaker 1: that's what I grew up with. It's it just has
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Speaker 1: that nostalgic spot in my heart. I even think Discovery
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Speaker 1: has gone more towards the way I expect Star Trek
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Speaker 1: to feel like once you get past that first season
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Speaker 1: to like these later seasons are definitely more, definitely more
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Speaker 1: aligned with Star Trek and and Gene Roddenberry's ideals and
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Speaker 1: all of those things. Um, I've enjoyed Picard it is.
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Speaker 1: It is a little different and it is a little weird.
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Speaker 1: But I also enjoyed Deep Space nine, and I would
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Speaker 1: say that that was a departure from standard Star Trek
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Speaker 1: television series a little bit. Well, it was more political.
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Speaker 1: Something that doesn't look like it's going to be a
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Speaker 1: departure at all. It's just gonna go even harder the
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Speaker 1: way it's been going for a while is the next
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Speaker 1: Stranger Things season. So when we first started putting this
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Speaker 1: episode together, we were marveling over the weird live stream countdown.
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Speaker 1: They had to a trailer reveal where you saw the
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Speaker 1: smoking clock that turned out to be in the middle
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Speaker 1: of Santa Monica with people occasionally looking at it and
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Speaker 1: it looked like it was experiencing some sort of glitchiness.
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Speaker 1: And then we got the trailer. Why do you think
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Speaker 1: of the trailer aerial? Uh? Well, first of all, I
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Speaker 1: gotta say there was a dude who was in a
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Speaker 1: lab coat who was exploring that clock. I didn't watch
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Speaker 1: the entire live stream. But I wonder how long they
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Speaker 1: hired him to stand there and look at the clock. Um.
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Speaker 1: I could probably look that up if I wanted to.
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Speaker 1: The trailer looked fun. Um. It confirmed a lot of
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Speaker 1: things I suspected after season three, and then we kind
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Speaker 1: of found out from like media interviews and stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: like Hopper still being around. Um, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: all of that is a spoiler to be because I've
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Speaker 1: only seen season one. I'm sorry, It's okay. Everyone talked
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Speaker 1: about it already. I've I've heard it so many times. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the trailer looks interesting. I'm it is weird
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Speaker 1: to me. The villain that they reveal in the trailer
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Speaker 1: looks more human than any of the previous villains, which
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Speaker 1: like swamp thing mixed with doc cock thing going on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's or or like the borg queen. It's weird. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And on one hand, I'm kind of like, I really
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Speaker 1: liked these Eldritch horror type things that we're you know,
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Speaker 1: it was either Eldrich horrors or people that were the
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Speaker 1: bad guys in the earlier seasons of Stranger Things. So
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes it feel more cheesy
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Speaker 1: or more frightening to me to have essential speaking human person.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, but it looks good. I'm I
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Speaker 1: like the way in the trailer that they accounted for
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Speaker 1: having to shut down for the pandemic yum, which is,
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Speaker 1: uh spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen the trailer, not
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Speaker 1: much of a spoiler. We tried to get along for
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Speaker 1: a while, like one simple sentence solves the two year gap,
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Speaker 1: and all of these young teenagers now being adults, right
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Speaker 1: or they're still playing teenagers. I'm sure they look like adults.
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Speaker 1: They're they're in high school. They're supposed to be. In fact,
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Speaker 1: I think according to the article anyway, that the gap
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Speaker 1: is only supposed to be six months. Whether or not
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Speaker 1: they reflect that in the series, uh, they're just like wow, people,
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Speaker 1: sure did hit those gross spurts. I don't know. Well,
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Speaker 1: finn wolf Heart definitely looks older. Yeah, well, Ariel, I
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Speaker 1: had one more story to go through, but I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: save it because we're running along for the segments, So
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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. When we come back, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk a bit about a night that moons people. Jonathan,
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Speaker 1: that's not that's not what we're talking. I mean, did
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Speaker 1: you watch a different show? So, I mean, I guess
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Speaker 1: in certain context you me I had. So I the
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Speaker 1: reason why I even made that joke is that I
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Speaker 1: once had I don't know if it was a What
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Speaker 1: the comic or if it was a mad magazine, but
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Speaker 1: I used to have like a comic book or or
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Speaker 1: something along those lines where they made that joke where
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Speaker 1: the Moon Night is this guy runs up to people,
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Speaker 1: pulls his pants down, moons them, and then runs away giggling.
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Speaker 1: But no, that is not what the Moon Night is about.
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Speaker 1: The Moon Night series obviously is on Disney Plus. Now
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Speaker 1: the first two episodes have gone out for us. By
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Speaker 1: the time you hear this, the third episode will be out,
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Speaker 1: and we just thought we'd talk a little bit about
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Speaker 1: our our our response to it. So I know how
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Speaker 1: I felt about it. But I'm very curious because we
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Speaker 1: have not talked about this. I do not know what
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Speaker 1: Aerial thought, and it could go either way. She might
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Speaker 1: or she might just feel the middle of the rood.
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Speaker 1: So what was your reaction to Moonnight? I like it
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Speaker 1: way more than I anticipated, like way more. I think
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Speaker 1: it it might be tying Loki for my second second. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is early right, because Marvel doesn't always carry through
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Speaker 1: the awesome through an entire series or movie. Right now,
17:29
Speaker 1: it's tying Loki for my second favorite Disney plus Marvel show,
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Speaker 1: behind One Division being first, I imagine, Yeah, behind One
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Speaker 1: Division being first. It is scary at times, but not
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Speaker 1: too scary, and there's action and there's blood but there's
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Speaker 1: not too much. And there's comedy but there's not too much.
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Speaker 1: It's all very balanced. And I love the fact that
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Speaker 1: because it's dealing with Egyptian um mythology and things like that,
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Speaker 1: they've got They've got a crew, They've got a director
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Speaker 1: and writers and crew that are all Egyptian and familiar
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Speaker 1: with that and really excited to look at this mythos
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Speaker 1: in a non cliche cliche way, and it really shows
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Speaker 1: and it makes it such intrigue in television. Yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: glad that they're taking those steps to try and make
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Speaker 1: sure that their depiction of Egyptian mythology um is exciting
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Speaker 1: and rings true and isn't just exploitation. I mean, obviously,
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Speaker 1: like when you think of Egyptian myth I don't know
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Speaker 1: about you. When I think of Egyptian mythology, I'm often
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Speaker 1: thinking about the stuff I would see if I were
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Speaker 1: to go to a museum in London. But obviously that
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Speaker 1: means I'm looking at stuff that in many cases was
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Speaker 1: just literally lifted without any consent from anyone in Egypt
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Speaker 1: and then brought to London to show off. Like you know,
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Speaker 1: the the museums in general have a lot of museums
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Speaker 1: in general have this issue, but British means seems in particular,
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Speaker 1: are somewhat infamous for it, for this, uh, for the
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Speaker 1: appropriation of cultural artifacts without first getting actual permission to
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Speaker 1: take them. Um, and so that that you could easily
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Speaker 1: have that same sort of issue where you had cultural
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Speaker 1: appropriation and uh, kind of a very narrow view of
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Speaker 1: what that means. So to bring people on who are
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Speaker 1: experts who can help guide I think is really important.
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Speaker 1: I think you make a great point about the tone.
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Speaker 1: I think the tone is great. Um, I I was
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Speaker 1: feeling the whole time I was I was watching, I
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Speaker 1: was like, I wouldn't describe it as scary. I would
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Speaker 1: describe it as incredibly creepy, but in the best way,
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Speaker 1: like the way that the classic creepy horror movie, not
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Speaker 1: a gross horror movie, not one that's all about jump scares,
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Speaker 1: but a classic like almost like one of those old
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Speaker 1: English creepy hammer films. That's what this feels like to me,
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Speaker 1: and I love it, yes, But the thing is like,
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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and you say I don't
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Speaker 1: like creepy things, I don't want to watch a horror show,
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Speaker 1: It's not like. There are some aspects of that, but
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Speaker 1: the show itself is so much more. I also think
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Speaker 1: that there well, the person that they're presenting as the
20:13
Speaker 1: big villain right now is super well written because he's
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Speaker 1: the best, the best. I think we've talked about this before.
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Speaker 1: The best villains to me are the ones that believe
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Speaker 1: wholeheartedly in what they're doing and that they're doing it
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Speaker 1: for good, even though what they're doing horrific. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: what made Thanos such a It's it's I'm sure. I mean,
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Speaker 1: not that I know for certain, but based on all
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Speaker 1: the trailers, I feel pretty confident about it. And but
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Speaker 1: that I'm pretty sure that the Scarlet Witch that Wanda
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Speaker 1: is going to be at least a villain in Doctor Strange,
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Speaker 1: if not the the primary antagonist, and her reasons were
20:55
Speaker 1: doing what she does are totally understandable and you could
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Speaker 1: see how she would be dedicated to seeing that vision out.
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Speaker 1: Uh huh, that's almost a pun, but seeing that vision
21:07
Speaker 1: out um at any cost, Like you can sort of
21:12
Speaker 1: understand that, and that's what makes her so formidable and
21:16
Speaker 1: terrifying because she one percent believes in what she's doing
21:20
Speaker 1: and is committed to seeing it through. So same sort
21:23
Speaker 1: of thing like the character, you get the feeling like
21:26
Speaker 1: this character isn't like a a mustache twirling, hand ringing villain.
21:31
Speaker 1: This character believes in what he does and that's what
21:34
Speaker 1: makes him so incredibly dangerous. And he's not going I
21:37
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't watched it,
21:39
Speaker 1: but he's not going into these situations blind or with
21:43
Speaker 1: vague assumptions from other people like he's he's living. He's
21:47
Speaker 1: going off of real experience and knowledge. I will have
21:50
Speaker 1: to say, Like I know, when they were putting out
21:51
Speaker 1: all the clips from Moon Night prior to launching, I
21:55
Speaker 1: was worried that they had spoiled some major moments for
21:57
Speaker 1: me and they didn't. Looking at the series and the
22:00
Speaker 1: things that I saw in the previews that I have
22:02
Speaker 1: now seen in the episodes, it wasn't a huge spoiler right. Um. Now,
22:07
Speaker 1: in the comics, just as in the series, the main character,
22:11
Speaker 1: the alter ego of the Moon Night, is someone who
22:15
Speaker 1: has dissociative identity disorder or what we used to call
22:18
Speaker 1: multiple personality disorder UM. And so this character has multiple personalities,
22:23
Speaker 1: and the one that we encounter at first is the
22:25
Speaker 1: one that you saw in all the trailers known as
22:28
Speaker 1: Stephen Um. The other one we've met so far is Mark,
22:34
Speaker 1: but in the comics there are others as well. But
22:37
Speaker 1: my my question to you is one that my wife
22:39
Speaker 1: and I chatted about this. We both feel like we're
22:42
Speaker 1: both hoping that Stephen remains the primary character that we're
22:48
Speaker 1: connected to throughout the rest of the series, because we
22:50
Speaker 1: think he's more interesting than Mark is. I mean, Stephen
22:55
Speaker 1: is more interesting, though the accents still weighs on me
22:59
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's kind of why I like it
23:01
Speaker 1: even more, because that accident is so terrible. I was
23:04
Speaker 1: going to mention something similar, though, I think it's hard
23:07
Speaker 1: to say that Stephen is more interesting. Stephen is definitely
23:09
Speaker 1: more of an underdog than Mark Specter is. I do
23:14
Speaker 1: find it really interesting that in the comics, Mark Spector
23:17
Speaker 1: is the I think the prime personality and all these
23:21
Speaker 1: others are ones that pop up to do different things,
23:24
Speaker 1: Like he's got Jake Lockley, who is a cab driver
23:27
Speaker 1: who's kind of like the informant, and he's got Mr
23:31
Speaker 1: mr Knight. I think it is Yeah, that's the detective.
23:34
Speaker 1: We saw Mr Knight briefly. Yes, we have already seen him.
23:37
Speaker 1: I I was thrilled, Like that moment was so cool
23:40
Speaker 1: to me. It seems to me like in the series
23:43
Speaker 1: that Mark is still the prime personality. And I don't
23:46
Speaker 1: know why or how Steven is now thinking that he's
23:50
Speaker 1: He's had to be a personality long enough to get
23:52
Speaker 1: a job, get an apartment, get neighbors, all that other stuff.
23:56
Speaker 1: But Mark has this whole history from before, this blank
24:01
Speaker 1: slate of Steven that I wonder if it was like
24:04
Speaker 1: a deep cover thing that happened. I really don't know.
24:07
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing here, but it is interesting to me,
24:11
Speaker 1: and I find myself asking every episode why is it
24:14
Speaker 1: like this? Also, like with with his love interests, it
24:18
Speaker 1: doesn't line up with the comics, but it might line
24:21
Speaker 1: up with some other comics that kind of lines up
24:23
Speaker 1: with I've fallen down the fan conspiracy Rabbit hole, Jonathan. Um,
24:28
Speaker 1: I actually went out to the point where I didn't
24:31
Speaker 1: go out, but I used UM, I used some credits.
24:35
Speaker 1: I had to purchase some digital comics. I actually purchased
24:38
Speaker 1: some Moon Night comics and read them. And so they're fascinating,
24:42
Speaker 1: by the way, because a lot of them are trying
24:46
Speaker 1: to capture the disjointed feeling that the character has. So
24:51
Speaker 1: there are comics where you're like, you feel like you're
24:53
Speaker 1: just getting part of a story and it's really well done.
24:56
Speaker 1: But because it's just part, my brain is like, but
25:00
Speaker 1: I want to know what happened. Yeah, that's that's why
25:04
Speaker 1: I jumped around to towers. But still it's it's really neat. Yeah,
25:08
Speaker 1: I agree. Well, Uh, I think I'm definitely gonna be
25:12
Speaker 1: watching the rest of it. Uh. It's interesting because I've
25:14
Speaker 1: I've heard rumors that one of the reasons we have
25:19
Speaker 1: yet to see a trailer for or even a teaser
25:23
Speaker 1: for Thour Love and Thunder is potentially because of something
25:29
Speaker 1: that happens in Moonnight. And also there's the potential that
25:35
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Uh, that events
25:40
Speaker 1: and that are going to have a big impact on
25:42
Speaker 1: four as well. What I say to that to you,
25:46
Speaker 1: Disney Marvel Kevin is that maybe this means you're putting
25:50
Speaker 1: out too much stuff into short amount of time. Hey,
25:53
Speaker 1: don't make enemies, you know, maybe maybe just spread it
25:56
Speaker 1: out a bit so that way you can actually promote
25:58
Speaker 1: your upcoming projects without spoiling the ones that also haven't
26:01
Speaker 1: come out. I like instant gratification. I'm currently enjoying it
26:05
Speaker 1: as long as they're flying now. I know, like I've
26:08
Speaker 1: I worked on an independent film. It was some film
26:11
Speaker 1: students recently, and they were they were going on about
26:14
Speaker 1: how Marvel needs to hire like a show Bible runner
26:17
Speaker 1: because they are putting out so much stuff, like someone
26:20
Speaker 1: just to to keep the story Bible. I really like it.
26:23
Speaker 1: I also heard rumor that Daredevil might show up again
26:25
Speaker 1: in Moonnight, so a lot of this is just once
26:30
Speaker 1: again falling down the fan fan rabbit hole. Yeah. I
26:32
Speaker 1: really expected Moonnight to be closer to in tone to
26:35
Speaker 1: like Daredevil or Jessica Jones or Luke Cage, and it's not. Um.
26:39
Speaker 1: I would still say it's PG. Thirteen just because there
26:42
Speaker 1: is a little bit of like violence and just um high,
26:49
Speaker 1: high level concepts that might be hard for a kid
26:51
Speaker 1: to grasp. Yeah, it's I think. I think like this
26:55
Speaker 1: is like teenager and older kind of territory. Like I'm
26:59
Speaker 1: sure as a kid, I would have found this fascinating,
27:01
Speaker 1: but it would have been one of those things that
27:03
Speaker 1: if I were an adult and watching it again, I'd
27:05
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I totally didn't pick up on all
27:07
Speaker 1: the stuff that was going on. But then I'm also stupid,
27:10
Speaker 1: so that can happen to me next year watching a
27:12
Speaker 1: movie that I watched this year, So don't listen to
27:14
Speaker 1: me on that one. Uh, we're almost We're almost a
27:18
Speaker 1: time for this whole whole segment. But before we get
27:20
Speaker 1: to that, before we move on and take a break,
27:23
Speaker 1: there is one other little thing I just wanted to
27:25
Speaker 1: touch on. Is the thing that I pushed from the
27:28
Speaker 1: last segment, but I feel like you have to talk
27:30
Speaker 1: about it, because what the heck? Mary Sue reports that
27:35
Speaker 1: there is going to be a Spirit Halloween movie, So
27:38
Speaker 1: for those who are not familiar, Spirit Halloween is a
27:42
Speaker 1: pop up store that appears in late summer early fall,
27:46
Speaker 1: and it's all about Halloween. It takes over spaces that
27:49
Speaker 1: have been emptied out from other retail establishments, where like
27:53
Speaker 1: they went out of business, and they cleared out. Spirit
27:55
Speaker 1: Halloween will take over the space operate there for a
27:58
Speaker 1: few months. Close was up shop after Halloween and then
28:01
Speaker 1: disappear um and now they're making them. There's gonna be
28:05
Speaker 1: a Spirit Halloween movie. Yeah, with Christopher Lloyd's he's making
28:12
Speaker 1: a comeback man. He's well, I don't know, maybe he
28:14
Speaker 1: has been doing stuff. I haven't seen him in much
28:16
Speaker 1: of the things that I've been watching, but yeah, he's
28:19
Speaker 1: he's really been working a lot recently. Yeah, so it's
28:24
Speaker 1: it's him, It's Rachel Lee Cook h and a bunch
28:27
Speaker 1: of other people, and it's set in the past because
28:30
Speaker 1: it's taking over a circuit city. The store in the
28:33
Speaker 1: movie is taking over a circuit city, right, or at
28:37
Speaker 1: least at least that's what's in the article. I don't
28:39
Speaker 1: know if that's really That was just the just the
28:42
Speaker 1: just the writer making a reference to their own childhood.
28:47
Speaker 1: This is what happens. When I read too quickly, it
28:49
Speaker 1: sounds to me like it's going to have sort of
28:52
Speaker 1: a Five Nights at Freddie's vibe to it. Like the
28:55
Speaker 1: talks about the animatronics in the store coming to life
28:59
Speaker 1: and terror rising some kids who are locked in the
29:01
Speaker 1: store overnight, and I'm feeling like, yeah, there's definitely a
29:05
Speaker 1: Five Nights at Freddie's influence here. It also feels like
29:07
Speaker 1: it's going to be meant to be kind of a
29:10
Speaker 1: gateway horror movie, for like the kind of horror movies
29:12
Speaker 1: that kids can watch but then gets kids interested in
29:16
Speaker 1: horror movies. I think of things like Gremlin's falling into
29:19
Speaker 1: that category, like it's a movie that kids could watch.
29:23
Speaker 1: I watched it as a kid. That could get you
29:25
Speaker 1: interested in horror movies. The gate is another one. Although
29:28
Speaker 1: the gate is like a billion times more bizarre than
29:31
Speaker 1: Gremlins is. I've never watched the great I know that
29:34
Speaker 1: Mary Sue mentions the Goonies, which I could definitely get
29:38
Speaker 1: a Gooni's feel from it, although I wouldn't count the
29:40
Speaker 1: Goonies as horror at all. No, it's adventure. I'm kind
29:44
Speaker 1: of interested to watch this. Here's the thing, like part
29:49
Speaker 1: of me is like, man, this is just gonna be terrible,
29:51
Speaker 1: But then part of me would also say, you know
29:53
Speaker 1: what would be terrible making a movie out of the
29:55
Speaker 1: board game Clue, and that would turn out to be
29:58
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies of all times. So what
30:00
Speaker 1: do I know. I'm still sad we never got the
30:03
Speaker 1: Tetris trilogy kept being promised. Yeah, well maybe someday Aerial,
30:11
Speaker 1: But until then, we're gonna take another break, and when
30:13
Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna tell you about some wacky
30:17
Speaker 1: mashups we made. All right, These mash ups are totally madness, Jonathan.
30:38
Speaker 1: They are one of them we picked was the Doctor
30:42
Speaker 1: Stranger in the mult Conversive Madness or Doctor Strange in general,
30:45
Speaker 1: because those trailers have been coming out Fast and Furious,
30:49
Speaker 1: but not like the film series Fast and Furious, Um,
30:53
Speaker 1: like we got the we got the the Dream trailer
30:56
Speaker 1: last week, so it's pretty much at a fever pitch
31:00
Speaker 1: of the marketing. Whether or not it pays off, I
31:03
Speaker 1: don't know. I've already seen people suggest that Doctor Strange
31:06
Speaker 1: might not perform quite as well at the box offices
31:09
Speaker 1: some of the other films, which is weird because I
31:12
Speaker 1: thought the trailers look really interesting and the possibility of
31:17
Speaker 1: seeing um Marvel characters from other franchises pop up is
31:24
Speaker 1: also interesting to me, Like we already saw that that
31:27
Speaker 1: had a big effect with a Spider Man no Way Home.
31:30
Speaker 1: They still haven't seen, but you know you will you
31:33
Speaker 1: will next time, yes, because I actually received it today.
31:37
Speaker 1: It came in the mail today. I just I wasn't
31:40
Speaker 1: able to watch it because I had to work. Oh
31:42
Speaker 1: and The Batman comes out soon too, so you can
31:44
Speaker 1: watch like April eighteenth, so I'm looking forward to seeing
31:47
Speaker 1: that too. But yeah, so so one of them is
31:50
Speaker 1: Doctor Strange, which, if you're not familiar with the character
31:53
Speaker 1: is a Marvel Sorcerers Supreme former surgeon who ends up
31:58
Speaker 1: getting Sorceress path hours after trying to seek out ways
32:03
Speaker 1: to heal himself because he suffers terrible injuries after a
32:07
Speaker 1: car accident. Uh then becomes one of Earth's mightiest heroes,
32:10
Speaker 1: protecting it against cosmic threats like stuff way bigger than
32:15
Speaker 1: the Avengers level typically and um, the new movie is
32:19
Speaker 1: kind of him reckoning with the fact that he done
32:22
Speaker 1: mess things up from Spider Man No Way Home and
32:25
Speaker 1: has opened up all these potential gateways two different parallel universes.
32:30
Speaker 1: It's also where we see Wanda, the Wanda from One
32:34
Speaker 1: Division um, continuing to pursue her goal. I'm really curious
32:39
Speaker 1: to see how the movie handles that and is able
32:43
Speaker 1: to explain things to an audience that did not watch
32:46
Speaker 1: one Division. Like, I know a lot of Marvel fans
32:49
Speaker 1: watch everything, but not everyone does. Yeah, I think it's
32:52
Speaker 1: interesting that they pulled in like her kids into the trailer. Yeah,
32:57
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder because of timing and how fast
33:00
Speaker 1: kids grow up if they filmed that while they were
33:03
Speaker 1: filming One Division. Well, you know, the rumor was that
33:07
Speaker 1: doctor Strange appear was to appear at the final shot
33:11
Speaker 1: of the final episode of One Division, but it was cut, um,
33:15
Speaker 1: and that he was originally going to be there when
33:17
Speaker 1: she was there at the cabin to apparently confront her,
33:22
Speaker 1: and that would have led into the multiverse of madness,
33:25
Speaker 1: but they decided to cut. That probably makes sense because
33:29
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Spider Man No Way Home
33:33
Speaker 1: was supposed to be like the actual stepping stone towards
33:36
Speaker 1: this particular confrontation, because that had not yet come out,
33:40
Speaker 1: that would have made it really confusing. So um, that's
33:44
Speaker 1: my guess. But what's the other thing we're mashing up today?
33:46
Speaker 1: Aerial singing in the rain And the reason is because
33:50
Speaker 1: it turned seventy this week on Monday. So what's singing
33:57
Speaker 1: in the rain. It's this dude named Don Lockwood who's
34:00
Speaker 1: like a cowboy roper guy and silent film star who
34:04
Speaker 1: finds out that the films are going to have sound
34:07
Speaker 1: and his fake girlfriend h slash costar uh is going
34:14
Speaker 1: to not do well because she talks like this um,
34:19
Speaker 1: not not exactly but not too far off, very high pitched,
34:23
Speaker 1: very squeaky, very heavily accented. It's kind of like Audrey
34:27
Speaker 1: from a Little Shop of Horrors. And so they try
34:30
Speaker 1: to film the something Cavalier I can't remember the name
34:35
Speaker 1: of it. Don't classic film buffs, don't smack me. It's
34:37
Speaker 1: been a bit um. They So they try to film
34:40
Speaker 1: this movie that's with sound with Don and Lena, and
34:43
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well. Just a myriadde of things go wrong.
34:46
Speaker 1: They tried, they tried to muffle her voice, they try
34:48
Speaker 1: to get her audio to go well, she can't stay
34:51
Speaker 1: on mike. There's just a ton of problems. And so
34:54
Speaker 1: they find this other girl, Um, and they Kathy, and
35:01
Speaker 1: they basically have her subb in as the voice of Lena.
35:04
Speaker 1: But there's a whole bunch of song and dance and
35:06
Speaker 1: dream sequences, and they turned the dashing Cavalier into the
35:09
Speaker 1: dancing Cavalier Uh. And it's just it's just ridiculous, delightful
35:16
Speaker 1: and delightful, uh And it has brilliant songs in it,
35:21
Speaker 1: an amazing comedy and you know, a good love story
35:25
Speaker 1: and beautiful dancing, and it's it's just a piece of art,
35:28
Speaker 1: it really is. It's it's it's one of those movies
35:31
Speaker 1: that I've seen probably a dozen times and I can
35:35
Speaker 1: still watch it from beginning to end. There is a
35:38
Speaker 1: very long ballet sequence because it is a gene Kelly movie,
35:42
Speaker 1: so there has to be a very long ballet sequence,
35:45
Speaker 1: which feels a little gratuitous at points, But like the songs,
35:49
Speaker 1: like Singing in the Rain is just I mean, if
35:50
Speaker 1: you've ever seen the shot of Gene Kelly hanging off
35:53
Speaker 1: a lamp post in the rain, that's from this movie,
35:56
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic images of classic Hollywood. The
36:01
Speaker 1: film came out in nineteen fifty two, and um, yeah,
36:04
Speaker 1: this is like this is like one of those those
36:07
Speaker 1: benchmarks of Hollywood cinema, which is why everyone makes such
36:12
Speaker 1: a big deal of it turning seventy. It's kind of
36:14
Speaker 1: like movies like Wizard of Oz. You know, it's one
36:17
Speaker 1: of those that really was a foundational picture in uh,
36:21
Speaker 1: in cinematic history. So if you are not familiar with it,
36:24
Speaker 1: if you've never seen it, I recommend you check it out.
36:26
Speaker 1: You might if you're like me, feel tipted to flash
36:30
Speaker 1: to fast forward through the ballet sequence. You might uh
36:35
Speaker 1: something else important. Don Lockwood in the movie, has a
36:38
Speaker 1: best friend named Cosmo Brown played by Donald O'Connor. He's
36:41
Speaker 1: kind of the comedic relief. He's brilliant. He is just brillant.
36:45
Speaker 1: He's physically brilliant. He's got a great voice. He's adorable.
36:49
Speaker 1: He's like on my list of people who are way
36:51
Speaker 1: too old that I've never met. Um, only one of
36:54
Speaker 1: whom is still alive. Uh, Donald O'Connor, Danny Kay and
36:59
Speaker 1: Dick and Dyke when they were young. I have crushes
37:02
Speaker 1: on past them, got you? I mean she has. She
37:06
Speaker 1: has a crush on on a past character I played,
37:09
Speaker 1: Not me, but a character I played. So question what, Jonathan,
37:16
Speaker 1: that's mean? Well, you know what it's true, because anybody
37:19
Speaker 1: who listens to my mashup is going to know how
37:21
Speaker 1: questionable my judgment is. Well with that, I think we
37:26
Speaker 1: have to launch right and to your mashup or do
37:29
Speaker 1: you want me to go first? No, it's fine. It's
37:31
Speaker 1: called slinging in the strange um, Yes, talk to strange
37:36
Speaker 1: hustling rings. Okay. Loong Lockwood is a magician and silent
37:41
Speaker 1: film star who can't stand his co star slash fake
37:45
Speaker 1: girlfriend Lena Morto. Beyond her not being a nice, spoiled person,
37:49
Speaker 1: he can't even stand the sound of her voice. I
37:51
Speaker 1: mean it's horrible. Then one day, Long learns that the
37:55
Speaker 1: pictures that he's been acting in are going to have sound,
37:58
Speaker 1: and he thinks he's finally going to be rid of
38:00
Speaker 1: his fake girlfriend Linda. Because you see, back in the
38:02
Speaker 1: olden days, uh, these big film houses production companies used
38:06
Speaker 1: to want the stars to look like they were actually
38:09
Speaker 1: dating because it gave the audience more to invest in.
38:11
Speaker 1: All right, So the night that Wong learns that films
38:15
Speaker 1: are going to start having sound, he tells his roommate
38:17
Speaker 1: Stephen Cosmo Strange about his new revelation. The problem is
38:21
Speaker 1: that Cosmo heard that if the sound picture that Wong
38:24
Speaker 1: and Lena are working on flops, it'll be the end
38:27
Speaker 1: of not just her career, but Wong's as well, and
38:29
Speaker 1: Wong will have to go back to being a party
38:32
Speaker 1: children's party magician. This is devastating to Wong Lockwood, but
38:36
Speaker 1: Stephen Cosmo Strange tells Wong Lockwood not to worry. He
38:39
Speaker 1: has been practicing real magic and will help out. Wong
38:42
Speaker 1: doesn't believe him. There's not real magic until the day
38:45
Speaker 1: of the film shoot. Whenever Lena goes to speak, it's
38:48
Speaker 1: a voice that most definitely isn't Lena's coming out. But
38:51
Speaker 1: each time that occurs, other odd things happen. Portals open
38:53
Speaker 1: up around the studio, Cloaks fly like they have minds
38:56
Speaker 1: of their own, time flies for it, and backwards wrong
38:58
Speaker 1: Wong in the studio just side. These side effects are
39:01
Speaker 1: making the movie worse than Lena's voice was alone, and
39:03
Speaker 1: they beg Cosmo to stop, so he does, and instead
39:07
Speaker 1: they all go on a search to find a voice
39:08
Speaker 1: actress to replace Lena's voice, but not her beloved face.
39:11
Speaker 1: They find a woman named Kathy Palmer who fits the bill. However,
39:15
Speaker 1: Cosmo falls in love with Kathy Palmer and doesn't want
39:18
Speaker 1: her to play second fiddle to Lena, so he tries
39:20
Speaker 1: to conjure a world where everyone she thinks she is Lena,
39:24
Speaker 1: but that throws Wong, Stephen Cosmo Strange, and Kathy Palmer
39:27
Speaker 1: into a weird other verse, where everything is a musical
39:30
Speaker 1: in a nightclub and everyone is dancing all the time,
39:33
Speaker 1: and it's also raining there all the time, and the
39:35
Speaker 1: only way to get out is to sing the right
39:37
Speaker 1: words and open a portal back to their real world.
39:39
Speaker 1: They try every song they can think of make him laugh,
39:42
Speaker 1: it is a fiddle, good Morning, and even a song
39:44
Speaker 1: called singing in the Rain, and none of it works.
39:47
Speaker 1: And the longer they stay in the nightclub world, the
39:49
Speaker 1: further they descend into madness, until they are babbling about
39:53
Speaker 1: Noah having peony pinkies or or Moses supposing his toses
39:57
Speaker 1: or roses. But I mean, that's just nonsense. But it
40:01
Speaker 1: was just that nonsense that freed them from this realm,
40:04
Speaker 1: all with fresh ideas of how to invigorate their film
40:07
Speaker 1: by making it a musical and having Kathy sing for Lena,
40:10
Speaker 1: and everything seemed to finally be going well. But Stephen
40:12
Speaker 1: Cosmo Strange still did not want Cathy to pay play
40:15
Speaker 1: second fiddle, and he had one more trick up his sleeve.
40:18
Speaker 1: The night of the premiere of the movie, he raised
40:20
Speaker 1: the curtain as Cathy was singing for Lena and the
40:23
Speaker 1: audience saw her. But as he did As he pulled
40:25
Speaker 1: the curtain string, he also activated the Eye of Augamoto
40:30
Speaker 1: and reset time back to before motion pictures had sound,
40:34
Speaker 1: and no one remembered anything except for Cosmo, and this
40:37
Speaker 1: time he vowed he'd do better. The end, well, I
40:44
Speaker 1: love it, I love it. Oh, you had so many
40:50
Speaker 1: fun singing in the rain references Moses supposes his toses
40:53
Speaker 1: are roses, but Moses supposes erroneously. Erroneously, Moses, he knows this.
40:57
Speaker 1: His toses aren't roses, but Moses supposed as his toes
41:00
Speaker 1: is to be, or as most supposed is. That's my
41:03
Speaker 1: favorite song from the movie. Uh, I love that movie.
41:06
Speaker 1: So I was actually looking before we started getting into
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Speaker 1: our mashups because, um, I've mentioned this before, but I
41:14
Speaker 1: have it no longer works, but I have a capacitance
41:16
Speaker 1: electronic disc player a ce D player, which was a
41:21
Speaker 1: technology that very briefly tried to compete with VHS. You
41:26
Speaker 1: could not record to it. It is kind of like
41:29
Speaker 1: a record, except it's in a plastic sleeve and you
41:32
Speaker 1: put the whole plastic sleeve into the machine, kind of
41:34
Speaker 1: like you would put a cassette into a VHS player. Um,
41:38
Speaker 1: but it has a disc inside it. And it would
41:39
Speaker 1: actually read the content of the disc using a stylist,
41:43
Speaker 1: just like a like a record player, except it's using
41:46
Speaker 1: electric capacitance, and then plays back video. You could only
41:50
Speaker 1: store about an hour's worth of content per side, so
41:54
Speaker 1: with most movies you had to take it out, flop
41:57
Speaker 1: it over, and put it back in to get the
41:59
Speaker 1: second half of the move. Be well, one of the
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Speaker 1: movies we owned was Singing in the Rain, and that's
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Speaker 1: how I watched it so many times when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid. So I was gonna show you that, but
42:08
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be disruptive during your actual mash up,
42:13
Speaker 1: which was delightful. Thank you. No, that's really cool. I
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Speaker 1: wish Lockhood made like I Aeriel saw none of you
42:21
Speaker 1: could see. I had to suppress laughing out loud just
42:25
Speaker 1: from long Lockhood, because I mean, you know, it's it's
42:29
Speaker 1: it's okay. So Dawn falls in love with Kathy Palmer. Um, No,
42:35
Speaker 1: Kathy not Palmer. Christine Palmer is the girlfriend from Doctor Strange. Anyhow,
42:41
Speaker 1: Don falls in love with Kathy, not Cosmo. But in
42:43
Speaker 1: this just made better sense. Yeah, it was interesting to
42:47
Speaker 1: me also that you kind of made a Strange a
42:51
Speaker 1: supporting character a very important supporting character. But the leading
42:56
Speaker 1: man is Wong, at least the traditional sense. Well, I
43:01
Speaker 1: mean one, for one, I think Wong deserves to be
43:05
Speaker 1: a leading man. He's awesome and too in the story
43:08
Speaker 1: of Doctor Strange, at least in the first one, when
43:10
Speaker 1: he comes into the to the monastery um, which I
43:14
Speaker 1: know is that's not what it's called. But when he
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Speaker 1: basically starts learning his magic style temple, Yeah, yeah, he's
43:21
Speaker 1: the troublemaker. Mm hmm. Everybody else is serious and more straightforward,
43:25
Speaker 1: and he's the troublemaker. And I figured if he was
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Speaker 1: the lead character, it would be harder to make him
43:30
Speaker 1: cause trouble. So that was my reasoning behind that. Well,
43:35
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I look forward. I'm going
43:38
Speaker 1: to do my mash up. But before we get to that,
43:40
Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break because my mashups pretty long.
43:42
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, folks, Um, after I do
43:46
Speaker 1: my mashup, I think we're kind of have to unpack
43:48
Speaker 1: some stuff because my mashup includes references to other things
43:53
Speaker 1: that are not um immediately apparent, and so I might
43:58
Speaker 1: have to explain some joy says kind of like what
44:00
Speaker 1: we just had, like our little post mortem on on
44:04
Speaker 1: arials mashup. So we're gonna take a quick break. When
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Speaker 1: we come back, you'll get ready for my match up.
44:21
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay,
44:24
Speaker 1: Well hit my desk so many times, great audio, So
44:28
Speaker 1: we have we have this in common. So my title,
44:32
Speaker 1: it's not exactly the same, but it is Singing in
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Speaker 1: the Strange. So um, here we go with Singing in
44:38
Speaker 1: the Strange. Gene Kelly has a problem. See it's nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty two and he's on set for what will become
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Speaker 1: a true classic American movie musical, Singing in the Rain.
44:49
Speaker 1: He's playing Don Lockwood, a fictional silent movie era film
44:53
Speaker 1: star who is grappling with the challenges of films transition
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Speaker 1: to talking pictures, and obviously he's going to do a
44:59
Speaker 1: lot of sing and and a lot of dancing in it.
45:02
Speaker 1: So he pushes himself hard, expecting no less from his
45:05
Speaker 1: co stars. But then the problem happens. See, because Dr
45:10
Speaker 1: Strange did that multiverse portal thingy in that Spider Man movie.
45:15
Speaker 1: That is I'm guessing that's what he's done, because I
45:17
Speaker 1: still haven't seen Spider Man. But you know, It literally
45:21
Speaker 1: came in the mail today, so by the time this
45:23
Speaker 1: episode goes live, I will have seen it. I just
45:25
Speaker 1: haven't seen it while I'm doing this mash up, So
45:28
Speaker 1: I'm just making a big leap here that that's what happened. Okay,
45:31
Speaker 1: we're on the same page, So we're gonna just assume
45:33
Speaker 1: Strange made an oopsie in that movie. Well, the effects
45:37
Speaker 1: of that oopsie have spread far and wide, so far
45:41
Speaker 1: and wide that it's gone beyond the Marvel Cinematic universe.
45:45
Speaker 1: It's gone beyond Disney and Fox. It's stretched all the
45:49
Speaker 1: way to Metro Goldwyn Meyer Pictures. And next thing you know,
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Speaker 1: Gene Kelly falls plumed through a portal boom. He finds
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Speaker 1: himself in pair as France, the real One, but all
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Speaker 1: around him are people singing and dancing. He immediately recognizes
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Speaker 1: the music as that from an American in Paris, and
46:10
Speaker 1: he tries to get folks to stop dancing and singing
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Speaker 1: and to talk to him, but they're all kind of
46:15
Speaker 1: locked into this wild singing and dancing thing and with
46:18
Speaker 1: either no way or no desire to break free of it.
46:22
Speaker 1: And they all get to a part of the song
46:24
Speaker 1: and they all look at him clearly waiting and taking aback.
46:27
Speaker 1: He sings a little, and the whole group starts up again,
46:31
Speaker 1: and Jean starts to feel really still at ease, so
46:34
Speaker 1: he dashes off, noticing that the dancing and singing folks
46:37
Speaker 1: appear to be eyeing him with potential violence for abandoning them.
46:43
Speaker 1: He ducks down a Parisian alley way behind him and
46:45
Speaker 1: in rhythm he hears in song and approaching throng. Oh no,
46:52
Speaker 1: even the story treatment is beginning to rhyme. He takes
46:56
Speaker 1: another corner, looking behind him and doesn't even see that
47:00
Speaker 1: he's running smack dab into yet another portal, and he
47:03
Speaker 1: loses his footing and he trips and he falls to
47:05
Speaker 1: his hands and knees, And there, when he's on the
47:07
Speaker 1: ground on his hands and knees, he sees a pair
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Speaker 1: of cartoonish feet belonging to a mouse. Uh no, he says,
47:15
Speaker 1: looking up, and sure enough he sees in front of
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Speaker 1: him a cartoon Jerry the Mouse, wearing a little crown.
47:23
Speaker 1: And yeah, somehow Jeane Kelly has fallen into the nine
47:26
Speaker 1: movie musical anchors. Away, say Joe, says, Jerry the Mouse,
47:31
Speaker 1: Why aren't you wearing your uniform, and gene Kelly looks
47:34
Speaker 1: down and he's still wearing his outfit from singing in
47:37
Speaker 1: the rain set and he could feel his mind slipping,
47:40
Speaker 1: it's cracking at the edges. And sure he was in
47:43
Speaker 1: anchor's away, but obviously back then there was no mouse
47:47
Speaker 1: for him to look at. When he was on set,
47:49
Speaker 1: he just danced, and then later on an animator drew
47:53
Speaker 1: frame by frame to match Kelly's movements and to create
47:57
Speaker 1: Jerry the mouse. But now here is an apparently living,
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Speaker 1: breathing cartoon mouse, a cartoon mouse that was increasingly growing. Impatient.
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Speaker 1: You can't dance without your uniform, says Jerry, his eyes
48:13
Speaker 1: starting to glow. A dull red must have left it
48:18
Speaker 1: in my trailer, stammers Jean, looking for an exit. Can't
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Speaker 1: be having that, says Jerry, who starts to move closer,
48:25
Speaker 1: and Jean's courage breaks and he makes a dash for it,
48:28
Speaker 1: running away from the humanoid mouse. Fortunately he's in very
48:33
Speaker 1: very good physical condition, and he makes his getaway. He
48:37
Speaker 1: runs out of the throne room and sees nothing. It's
48:41
Speaker 1: a void, as if this whole reality is restricted to
48:43
Speaker 1: just that one throne room space. And then he sees
48:48
Speaker 1: that the space behind him is moving away from him,
48:50
Speaker 1: it's getting smaller, and then he comes to understand he's
48:54
Speaker 1: actually falling. But there's no wind, there's no sound, there's
48:58
Speaker 1: no sensation of falling, but the room is moving away,
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Speaker 1: as if he has just wandered off the edge of
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Speaker 1: the universe itself, and he feels a deep sense of
49:08
Speaker 1: dread creep into him his He opens his mouth to scream,
49:12
Speaker 1: and no sound emerges. That is until he falls through
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Speaker 1: yet another one of those weird orange portal things, and
49:18
Speaker 1: he finds himself sliding along the road toward a large gate.
49:22
Speaker 1: His momentum has carried him forward, but he's actually still
49:25
Speaker 1: on his feet. This dimension is apparently at ninety degree
49:28
Speaker 1: angle from the last one, and it's only gene Kelly's
49:31
Speaker 1: amazing athleticism that allows him to stay upright. And he
49:34
Speaker 1: comes to a stop just in front of the wooden gate,
49:37
Speaker 1: which looks kind of familiar. It's very large, and next
49:40
Speaker 1: to it is a sign that reads Musketeers Headquarters. Uh No,
49:45
Speaker 1: Jean says, And soon he is surrounded by people in
49:49
Speaker 1: vaguely medieval to Renaissance era outfits. You know, a collection
49:54
Speaker 1: of outfits that are drawn across centuries of real history,
49:57
Speaker 1: but it's the nineteen forties Hollywood idea of what France
50:00
Speaker 1: was like in s and a whole bunch of the
50:04
Speaker 1: people around him have these silly wigs on and not
50:07
Speaker 1: so silly swords in their hands. Hold on, fellas, says Jean,
50:12
Speaker 1: I just got turned around. Well. One of the fellas
50:15
Speaker 1: in question looks at another insist Porthos. I believe he
50:19
Speaker 1: is speaking English, and he says this in English. English,
50:24
Speaker 1: says the fellow, presumably Porthos. But we do not understand English.
50:28
Speaker 1: Aramis we are French, he says, also in English. Jean,
50:34
Speaker 1: seeing that this is going to be fruitless, makes a
50:37
Speaker 1: wild dash for it, and soon we have an exciting
50:39
Speaker 1: chase through the fake streets of Paris, complete with horses
50:42
Speaker 1: and jumping through windows and stuff. It's parker before people
50:46
Speaker 1: knew how to call it parkour, and it's phenomenal. And
50:50
Speaker 1: just as Jean is getting out of breath and he
50:52
Speaker 1: can hear the French soldiers closing in, he sees a
50:55
Speaker 1: hint of an orange glow from below a doorway, so
50:57
Speaker 1: he rushes over. Forces the door open, reveals another length
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Speaker 1: space that's where a room should be and it's only
51:04
Speaker 1: filled with a portal, and he says, here we go
51:05
Speaker 1: again and jumps in Zoom. Now he's in a truly
51:10
Speaker 1: alien place. It's this really large building with a big
51:14
Speaker 1: wooden floor. There's an ethereal beautiful woman who's chatting up
51:19
Speaker 1: a guy in a weird kind of leathery outfit. The
51:23
Speaker 1: woman is wearing roller skates and they seem pretty chill,
51:26
Speaker 1: all things considered, so he walks up to them. Danny
51:30
Speaker 1: asked the guy, sorry, I think you might be mistaken
51:33
Speaker 1: me for someone else, Jean says. Now. The woman looks
51:36
Speaker 1: at him with a puzzled expression, focus on him completely,
51:39
Speaker 1: and she says, Sonny, this is not Danny. Well, I
51:43
Speaker 1: mean he looks a lot like Danny, says the guy,
51:46
Speaker 1: you know, younger, but they could be father and son.
51:48
Speaker 1: He says, wait, wait, wait, wait, says Jean. This this
51:52
Speaker 1: is not I have no memory of this. This is
51:55
Speaker 1: not one of my movies. But there's a man here
51:57
Speaker 1: who looks like me, but older. So Sonny, he looks
52:00
Speaker 1: totally flabbergasted, but the young woman just nods slowly. It's so, wait,
52:05
Speaker 1: this is going to be one of my movies, asks Geen, well,
52:10
Speaker 1: says the woman. It's not really your vehicle. You have
52:13
Speaker 1: more of a supporting role in this one. So Sunny
52:16
Speaker 1: looks like a gasping fish, just completely unaware of what
52:19
Speaker 1: is happening. But the woman really seems to have it together,
52:23
Speaker 1: and Sunny ends up saying wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
52:26
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? This is real life. The
52:28
Speaker 1: woman momentarily just ignores him. Now, I'm not sure how
52:32
Speaker 1: you got here, but we need to get you out.
52:35
Speaker 1: Jean says, I'm not sure myself, but how can you
52:37
Speaker 1: know about all of this? No one else does. Everyone
52:40
Speaker 1: else is unaware, and she says, well, I'm Kira, I'm amused,
52:45
Speaker 1: which gives me some some what audibilities, for example knowing
52:49
Speaker 1: that I am in a film and appearing in this form.
52:52
Speaker 1: But then muse works in strange ways, and Gene stairs
52:56
Speaker 1: it certainly does. Kira turns to Sonny, we will fix this.
53:00
Speaker 1: I know it's confusing, but you've stuck with me so far.
53:02
Speaker 1: Can you trust me a little longer? And Sunny wordlessly
53:05
Speaker 1: nods yes, and Kira grabs Gene by the hand pulls
53:08
Speaker 1: them toward the exit of this enormous building. Right, She says,
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Speaker 1: do you know how you got here beats me, says Jean.
53:15
Speaker 1: I fell through an orange glowing thing, and I keep
53:17
Speaker 1: ending up in my own movies. All right, So you
53:20
Speaker 1: are the actor, like the real human who has played
53:24
Speaker 1: numerous characters, and you're finding yourself cast between the fictional
53:28
Speaker 1: realities you appeared in as an actor, ones that are
53:31
Speaker 1: still connected to you, but they aren't real, says Kira.
53:35
Speaker 1: Jean slowly nods, and it looks like I'm getting further
53:38
Speaker 1: away from where I started. And Kira nods and there's
53:41
Speaker 1: a serious expression on her face. This looks like we
53:43
Speaker 1: need to talk to dad. Come on, and so she
53:47
Speaker 1: pulls him toward a brick wall with a mural on it,
53:50
Speaker 1: and effortlessly she passes into the mural, and Jean, after
53:53
Speaker 1: studying himself, does the same, and he finds himself in
53:56
Speaker 1: a strange kind of ethereal, cloudy place, sort of like
53:59
Speaker 1: the void from earlier, but not as menacing, and he
54:02
Speaker 1: hears an enormous voice coming from all around him at once. Goodness,
54:06
Speaker 1: those sorcerers really did muck things up, didn't they, says
54:09
Speaker 1: the voice. Right, Oh, we'll sort this out, at least
54:13
Speaker 1: for you. From what I'm seeing, here. This is going
54:15
Speaker 1: to have quite the ripple effect, but at least we
54:18
Speaker 1: can get you to where you should be, says the voice.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Zeus, says Gene Kelly. All right, forgot to
54:27
Speaker 1: introduce myself. Yeah, sorry about that, but here we go,
54:30
Speaker 1: and in front of Jean opens a new orange portal.
54:33
Speaker 1: Here's Zeus say. This one will get you back to
54:35
Speaker 1: your own reality. Just keep an eye out. It might
54:37
Speaker 1: take a few minutes for me to close down all
54:39
Speaker 1: the gaps to make sure you stay there. Jean, figuring
54:43
Speaker 1: that this is the least weird thing that has happened
54:45
Speaker 1: to him in the last several minutes, thanks Zeus, and
54:47
Speaker 1: steps through right onto the set of Singing in the Rain.
54:51
Speaker 1: There you are, says Donald O'Connor. We've been looking everywhere
54:55
Speaker 1: for you. Why did you go and take a long
54:57
Speaker 1: lunch or something. Gene looks around a moment realizes no
55:00
Speaker 1: one has noticed that he was even gone, other than
55:03
Speaker 1: being absent for a little bit. He's and he just grins.
55:05
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Sorry, had to
55:08
Speaker 1: clear my head. Are we ready ready? If he uses Donald,
55:11
Speaker 1: it's the title number, and so Jeane quickly gets his
55:14
Speaker 1: makeup touched up, prepares himself and does the first take
55:17
Speaker 1: of the song Singing in the Rain. And this is
55:20
Speaker 1: why this is real, my friends. If you watch Singing
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Speaker 1: in the Rain to this very day, and you are
55:26
Speaker 1: very very carefully paying attention, you will notice a small,
55:31
Speaker 1: almost imperceptible moment when gene Kelly hesitates for just a
55:37
Speaker 1: split second in the song, and you might wonder why
55:40
Speaker 1: where it is he had to skip over the edge
55:42
Speaker 1: of one of those portals. As for the source, we're
55:45
Speaker 1: responsible for the whole mess. That's another story entirely, and
55:48
Speaker 1: I'll probably get to find out what it is a
55:50
Speaker 1: year from now. The end. I that was amazing. That
55:56
Speaker 1: was so brilliant. Um. I. First of all, it's a
56:02
Speaker 1: shame that Spider Man was playing was cast to play
56:05
Speaker 1: Fred Astare and not gene Kelly, because that would have
56:09
Speaker 1: been a really amazing tie in. Uh. Second of all,
56:12
Speaker 1: gene Kelly was in Starlight Express Zanna Do Olivia Newton John.
56:20
Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought that was Starlight Express. No, No,
56:24
Speaker 1: Starling Express was never made into a film as far
56:26
Speaker 1: as I know. I mean, if it was, I definitely
56:28
Speaker 1: have to watch it. But no, Zanna Do was a.
56:32
Speaker 1: It was really one of gene Kelly's last films, but
56:35
Speaker 1: it started Olivia Newton John as the muse Kira, And uh,
56:41
Speaker 1: this just tells me, arial that you're going to have
56:43
Speaker 1: to come over to my place and I will show
56:45
Speaker 1: you the movie Zanna Do. Because it's very cheesy, it's
56:51
Speaker 1: very much a product of its time, which is the
56:52
Speaker 1: early eighties. And I absolutely on ironically love it to pieces.
56:59
Speaker 1: So that's for those who didn't didn't pick up on
57:02
Speaker 1: the other references anchors away. Obviously, that's a classic gene
57:06
Speaker 1: Kelly film, and Jerry the Mouse does appear in it
57:08
Speaker 1: in American in Paris is another one that was one
57:10
Speaker 1: of the ones where he really started to get a
57:12
Speaker 1: lot of notoriety early on. Um still gets produced as
57:17
Speaker 1: a pretty popular stage play, stage musical these days. Um,
57:21
Speaker 1: so yeah, I was. I was definitely referencing other actual
57:25
Speaker 1: gene Kelly movies. Zanna Do is just one that it's
57:29
Speaker 1: not really a gene Kelly movie. He really did just
57:31
Speaker 1: appear kind of as a supporting character. He is, he's
57:34
Speaker 1: he's in it a lot, like It's not like he
57:36
Speaker 1: appears for a cameo and disappears, but he's not the
57:39
Speaker 1: primary character. That's awesome. And I love how you brought
57:42
Speaker 1: in a real thing in a real movie into the
57:45
Speaker 1: end just to make it extra Twilight, Sony. Really it's
57:49
Speaker 1: it's it's that's to force people to watch um Singing
57:53
Speaker 1: in the Rain as closely as possible to determine whether
57:56
Speaker 1: or not what I told you is even remotely true.
57:59
Speaker 1: Does he has a hat? Is there a moment where
58:02
Speaker 1: he just hesitates for a second. You're just gonna have
58:04
Speaker 1: to watch that and find out. Yeah, and then if
58:08
Speaker 1: you see it, you should write us and tell us.
58:10
Speaker 1: If you don't see it, you should write us and
58:12
Speaker 1: tell us. That way, we covered all the bases. Yes, Yes, Also, Jonathan,
58:16
Speaker 1: I absolutely loved your mash up. And and if you
58:20
Speaker 1: would like to write in maybe you have your own
58:22
Speaker 1: thoughts of a mash up, whether it's this one, or
58:24
Speaker 1: maybe you've got suggestions for mashups we should do in
58:26
Speaker 1: the future. Maybe there's just something else you want us
58:28
Speaker 1: to talk about as far as geek culture is concerned. Uh,
58:32
Speaker 1: let us know the best way to do that is
58:34
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58:36
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58:41
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58:54
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58:59
Speaker 1: because the more people we can poof off with, the better. Yeah. Absolutely,
59:04
Speaker 1: like you know this. This is a lot of fun.
59:06
Speaker 1: We want to keep doing it. In order for us
59:09
Speaker 1: to keep doing it, We're gonna be straight with y'all.
59:11
Speaker 1: We need y'all to get more people listening. Do it?
59:16
Speaker 1: Do it? Gene Kelly wants you to that. That only
59:20
Speaker 1: works for the half of our audience that has watched
59:22
Speaker 1: Singing in the range. Jonathan or who have any idea
59:24
Speaker 1: who Jeane Kelly is? Dr Strange wants you to. Okay, there,
59:29
Speaker 1: that's better. That's probably more more relevant. Well until next time,
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Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan. Something strange is going on Strickland and I'm Ariel.
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