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Week Five · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner podcast along with my partners, Brian Siegler and
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  Jonathan Talley. I am Curtis Wilson and we are
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  part of the College Huddle Network.
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  This episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at
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  three O 1 S Main St. in Blacksburg, VA.
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  And y'all know what I forgot to do?
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  I forgot to text Jeremy and figure out who won the PS5.
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  That person is going to taking it away and never sending it to
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  me. Man, you are slacking.
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  Man, what are you doing well? I got, I got, I got a sick kid
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  at home. Both my boys had baseball on a
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  Monday night, so I'm running all around.
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  My wife had stuff out of her school.
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  It was, it was a long Monday. That's why I forgot.
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  Hey, man, we, we, we got, we got some celebrities already in the
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  the audience here. We got in ready with us.
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  We got Chris. Out.
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  You know new king, you know new. King, go ahead.
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  Look at it. Look at it.
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  Oh. Man, it's OK, all right, It's
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  all right. Oh boys, oh boys.
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  How y'all doing, Kylie? I know you were.
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  You had a baseball. Yeah, man, we all tournament
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  full swing, full swing sports. Son is he's starting on JV at
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  quarterback now. So last night he had a game.
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  So Mondays were playing games. Saturday we were in Cleveland,
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  TN had to go to Cleveland State to go to his his first showcase
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  where coaches were available. So coaches really can't talk to
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  9th and 10th graders yet in baseball, so they just observe
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  and put people on their watch list and things like that can
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  talk to the coaches a little bit.
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  So it was pretty cool though. It was.
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  But he hadn't picked the bat up in two months.
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  Hey, just go play, you know what I'm saying?
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  And it was a lot more relaxed than I thought it would be for
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  him because he just went and played and he, you know, he did
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  everything the right way. So that was cool.
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  But it was hot. I thought I was going to pass
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  out. I was definitely stealing
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  Gatorades out of people's coolers.
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  If you see, if you got a cooler and it's got Gatorade and water
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  in it and I'm around, I'm drinking it.
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  I'd rather drink your Gatorade and fall out.
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  So I was, I was. I'm going to.
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  Borrow this. I'm going to borrow this.
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  I wasn't even telling them though.
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  That's what made me feel bad. Like if I was telling them I
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  just see Gatorades and I mean, I just seen coolers and they will
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  fool. And I was like, right, I'm a
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  coach today, buddy. I'm getting in this I'm.
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  Going to press this button here. I'm going to get me a little
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  bit. See y'all later.
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  Right, how y'all feeling? I know, Curtis said.
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  He's been all over the place with the boys and Mama and all
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  that. Brian, what about you?
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  What you've been got going. On last week was crazy.
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  This week is a little bit slower to to that point I did.
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  I did win some money at work last week doing the hackathon,
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  so. Nice.
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  Good stuff. Excited about that.
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  That was probably the best part of the week because the weekend
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  got here and it and it wasn't as pretty as I wanted it to be.
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  Two big L's in fantasy football. Obviously we we know what
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  happened on Saturday, you know, the Colts won, but looking at
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  who they're playing, that didn't really give me a whole lot of
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  faith. So it could get worse for you.
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  You can be a Titans fan and Will Levis can be 1/4.
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  At least I ain't got Will Levis, man.
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  That Jesus Christ, man, I can't, dude.
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  I can't. I can't win for losing.
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  It's pitiful. My high school team lost, my
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  college team lost, and my pro team lost.
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  I'm about to start picking different teams, man.
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  We got to. Do some man, Oh man, oh man.
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  But I know we got. Behind you, my college team lost
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  my pro team, my fantasy team is the only thing keeping me happy.
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  I'm three and O and fresh in the league right now.
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  Well, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.
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  All I got. Is I put out an all time low in
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  fantasy? Oh yeah, man.
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  Didn't break y'all in the same league.
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  Yeah, yeah, he. Didn't break 60.
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  I did not break 60. All time low.
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  You playing that thing like I do.
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  I had people. I had people in that was hurt
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  for the season, all type of stuff.
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  They're like, hey man, you're supposed to change people out.
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  I ain't. I don't play.
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  Ain't got time? I ain't got.
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  No time. I'm getting screwed by the auto
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  sub. It's not working for me, but
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  this is another league. I I had a legitimate starting
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  lineup and just nobody did anything.
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  Hold on, hold on. A Titan put up a zero.
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  He played like 60 some snaps and put up a 0.
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  Hold on. It could be worse.
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  Though. I mean y'all got to win week 1
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  though. Yeah, I'm going to say they beat
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  us. They beat us.
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  They beat the Titans, so again, I I can't handle it bad.
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  I'm I'm just tired of it. But I know we got a lot to
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  unwrap here. It's going to be a great night,
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  as great as we can make it after a loss.
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  Everybody seen the game, they know we lost.
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  But I wanted to start and again, I told y'all I was going to
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  bring something on y'all. So I want to start and I want to
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  ask y'all a couple of questions. They're going to go with Curtis
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  first. Oh God.
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  We're just going, we're just going to run down the offense
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  and the defense because I'm trying to.
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  I've seen a lot of people putting blame or saying, oh,
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  it's a lot of people to blame. But whenever I asked like who's
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  the blame? Who do y'all think what needs to
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  be fixed? I can't get a straight answer.
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  So why not start it here? Did our running backroom do
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  enough to win the game? Our running backroom did more
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  than enough to win the game. OK, more running back.
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  Brian, would you agree? I agree.
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  OK. Did our quarterback room do
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  enough to win the game? No, no.
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  Not this way. Did our offensive line do enough
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  to win the game? No.
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  That's that, that that. See kind of crazy question you
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  know, given. Everything given, everything
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  else that that we're putting together here, they did not do
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  enough. OK, Curtis, what you say?
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  You you thinking something? See, I see.
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  I'm thinking because the reality is a Shelton sent me all the
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  numbers. Shelton's not here.
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  This is this. Is why I wanted to break it
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  down. So yeah, go ahead.
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  So you go across the line and look, a handful of guys on that
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  line had very good games, very good games.
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  One was the best tackle in the country per PFF.
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  Couple of our interior guys had very good games.
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  Then a couple guys, it didn't have so great games, so would
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  you? But it's all one unit.
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  Right. In that case, Brian, you play
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  tally, you play tight end. I think the line did enough to
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  win the game. I think a couple of people on
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  the line didn't do to win the game.
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  There you go, collecting unit. You start fairly.
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  Yeah. Now, if you start looking at why
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  is this person playing over this person, possibly, I don't know.
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  So then, now let's go wide receiver room.
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  Did the wide receiver room do enough to win the game?
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  Seeing a couple times I saw some guys running free the ball
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  didn't get there. I mean, I got to say they did.
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  Tidy in Rome. From a catching perspective,
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  yes. Blocking God No, God no.
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  They they, they threw some atrocious blocks.
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  It's, it's again, it's the inconsistency.
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  And I think that's the thing that's a lot frustrating.
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  I think that's why this exercise becomes hard sometimes when we
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  talk about you, they do enough because there are moments when
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  they did really well. Then they're moments where you
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  just scratch your head like, is that even the same player?
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  Like you think about like Benji, Benji through some hell, hell of
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  a good blocks on outside zone, split zone, things like that.
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  But there were a couple. Others where he he's olaying and
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  he's doing pretty, pretty poorly in pass pro.
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  So it's like it's it's like it's it's incomplete.
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  But I mean, in this instance, in this particular game, I'm going
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  to say a no. So now we're going to go to
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  defensive side of the ball. OK, defensive line.
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  Did they do enough to win the game?
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  Yes. Yep, Brian, You think so?
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  All right, linebackers. Did they do enough to win the
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  game? Linebackers is a lot like
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  offensive lineman. Yeah.
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  Some guys had great games. I I, I think cumulatively.
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  No, no. Cumulatively, no, because there
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  were too many. Guys, I think, I think Brumfield
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  had a pretty good game. Brumfield played solid.
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  Woodson played good against the run, but Woodson's youth showed
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  on some of those little fake pass plays because he stuck that
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  head back inside and that flat was gone.
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  But overall they did not play good enough.
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  OK, Safeties, no. Oh, we can do so do y'all want
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  to do something and quarterbacks together, they don't do it
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  separate, do it separate on safeties.
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  Safeties did not do good enough. Jaylen Jones was in hell.
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  That's all I would say. I.
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  Agree. Most made mistakes too, Yeah,
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  same way they were. They were making mistakes.
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  Corners played good enough. OK, corners, corners that will
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  play good enough. And I'm going to retract my
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  statement too, looking at the chat and talking.
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  That's why I wanted to do this to start the show off.
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  I said line. I thought line did enough to win
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  the game because I'm seeing at times when we needed them, they
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  threw a block, they got somebody open, we scored.
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  But a lot of that does have to do with who we had running the
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  ball. So I will go with I'm on, I'm
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  going to change my opinion. Line as a as a collective.
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  And the reason I'm changing this is because of the last question
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  I'm asked as a collective line didn't do enough to win the
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  game, so we'll go line didn't do enough to win the game.
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  Who else did we say quarterback, quarterback room didn't do
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  enough to win the game, linebackers, safeties.
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  So that is the the four rooms that didn't do enough to win
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  that game is am I getting that right?
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  That's it. OK, last question.
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  Then we can move on. Did the coaches as a whole, we
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  ain't breaking them down. Did the coaches do enough to win
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  the game? Not at all.
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  Not at all. Way too many ill prepared
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  moments way too, especially that one play, that one little,
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  whatever you want to call it, RPO play for the defense that
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  they ran. I think, I think somebody wrote
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  out there and what I've seen, it was done 7 times successfully.
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  That little flats pass, no? Yeah.
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  The the coaches didn't and the the bad thing is, and Brian,
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  I'll let you in peace. To me, there have been no game
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  this year that the coaches has had this team adequately
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  prepared. Yeah, I.
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  Agree now now I will give them their I will give them a little
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  I will give them a little flowers.
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  They have made some impressive in game adjustments in game they
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  they've gotten to the right points, but the whole thing is
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  when teams now it's becoming something where teams know if
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  they can get on us early, they can win the game.
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  Yeah. We're, we're not designed to
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  play from behind. We don't have the offensive line
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  that can block for situations where we need to drop back and
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  sling it. I don't think that we we've seen
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  success with that. I think our quarterback plays
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  better when he's comfortable and confident and, and that denotes
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  getting quicker starts in games, getting him comfortable with the
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  game plan, comfortable with his weapons, comfortable with the
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  way the game's going. You know, I think we've seen
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  that fairly consistently even going back to last year.
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  And then looking at the way the games have gone this year, When
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  he's comfortable early, he looks like a very damn good
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  quarterback. And when when he's not
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  comfortable early, it's very uneven, right.
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  Like you'll see him make some really good plays and then
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  you'll see some head scratchers. Yeah.
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  It's just when I look at stuff, man, the reason I ask that
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  question is because I've seen so much stuff.
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  You overanalyze stuff and you do want to be mad, and then you
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  look at this and you look at that.
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  It's so much stuff that goes into it.
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  And I can see in the chat. How?
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  It's split and I can see us trying to talk about it, how
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  none of this stuff is easy. I'm not making any excuses for
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  anybody, but I've seen somebody say it.
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  You can't win or can't put it on the coaches.
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  The drone misses 2 touchdowns. That's very true.
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  He overthrew his wide receivers, but you got A-65 receiver that
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  we have not seen layout for a ball Steven Gosnell laid out for
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  one. When you talk about people
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  wanting to win and doing everything it takes to win, we
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  haven't seen that from every player yet.
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  And I'm not putting that on our wide receivers as well.
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  I'm just saying when you get to a point where you'll do anything
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  to win, then we can start saying this is the only thing that
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  happened. It wasn't good.
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  I want. To do 2 things right, I'm going
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  to put this up talking about that RPOI can't blame that Omar
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  for the RPO woods and it's on him.
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  It's not on more. He can't make them execute on
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  the field. But Yost, I love you dude.
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  We talk all the time. What is 8 for 9 for 100 plus
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  yards? That is on the coach because if
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  you're not sitting there adjusting to maybe put them in a
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  zone concept or put them line them up further outside, that's
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  on a coach or the coach to say, listen, you just stay with him.
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  I don't care about to run. That's coaching on the
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  sidelines. And, and, and if you look later,
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  there was a correction to that because he did stay with the
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  tight end later and you know, he turned it up and got the
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  quarterback did turned it up, got like a 10 or 15 yard gain on
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  a run where he kept it. So I mean, they, they did make
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  some adjustment at some point in the game.
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  But again, it's the same play. It's eight of nine.
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  I think it's a little bit of both, right.
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  I think we could have been a little bit quicker with
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  identifying that as a problem for us and, and, and making
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  those adjustments a little bit quicker.
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  I'll take a quarterback having to turn it up and run, then
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  getting it to a tight end or way into their right route wide open
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  in the flat, just being able to turn it up and in some cases
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  with that wide receiver getting a little bit of a push there,
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  having a having a big lane in the alley.
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  So I, I think it's like I said, a little bit of both.
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  I think you got to look at coaching and being a little bit
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  quicker on that adjustment, but it it's still the players got to
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  go out there and make the play. Yeah.
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  And another thing too is did you look at is if you would have
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  told me we held Cal Menunga Menungi, whatever his name is,
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  under 100 yards, I think we win the game.
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  Hell yeah. Ever since you had Rutgers on
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  the schedule, you thought this is what we have to do.
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  We have to stop the run game, even the run game as a whole.
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  I don't know what they had, what they have, 150 or something. 153
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  on 52 so they. Were I thought they would run
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  for 300 yards easy, so I'm not saying that's an excuse, but if
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  you prepare to play them a certain way that that's what's
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  in their heads. You know what I'm saying, That
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  they're they're the the kids that you have on the field are
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  prepared to do this job. Now, it takes some time to get
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  them. The coach can adjust so he can
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  tell them to adjust, but it takes some time to get it to
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  happen. And sometimes it just takes
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  athleticism. Think about the last play, their
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  last offensive play. I won't say last offensive play,
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  but the play before they kick the field goal at the end, we
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  were beat. Woodson was out of position, You
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  know, he had duck down inside, but him wanting to win and him
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  being athletic enough to read, you know, to to redirect and go
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  and save a touchdown. First of all, that's a testament
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  of to him. But also, I mean, sometimes
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  players just got to they got to go through it, you know, and you
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  got some young guys that's inexperienced.
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  You also got some old guys that are experienced and still
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  screwing up. But you know, like it's a lot
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  that went on in that game, man. And I understand the knee jerk
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  reaction to be mad. I'm more pissed than probably
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  anybody that watched the game and I didn't even watch the
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  whole game. I had to go back and watch it,
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  you know, but I expected to lose a game.
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  I hate to say that I never want that to come out of my mouth.
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  But last week if you go back and watch the show, I say y'all, I
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  think it's going to be a close game and I just don't have the
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  confidence that we can pull off a close game because of our
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  coaches. So I wanted to start with that
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  exercise just so we can get the juices flowing a little bit.
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  I know we got a lot to get into, but that is that's what's been
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  going through my mind since Saturday.
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  All of that. You know what I'm saying?
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  And it's not a it's not a, let's say he did it.
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  Let's say he did it. There's nobody that sits on
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  Twitter. They can tell me exactly why we
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  lost his game. And I want them to so I can be
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  like, yeah, you're right. But everybody's saying fired.
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  And this is another thing too. And then I'm going to get we can
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  get started. I went, I didn't, I didn't.
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  I didn't see the, I didn't see the J Lane fumble until
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  yesterday. OK.
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  I was watching, you know, condensed game a little bit.
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  I, I got home about third quarter when I was texting, you
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  know, so I watched from third quarter on, but I went back and
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  and said, let me see this fumble, man, That's just a
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  player making a play. Like, I didn't even know when
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  his hand hit the ground and the ball bounces out.
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  I didn't know that that's a fumble.
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  I thought, oh, he's down. No, the hand, any other part of
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  your body can hit that man. Sometimes that's just hokey
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  luck, I guess, you know what I'm saying.
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  Do we really fire? Do we really fire the special
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  teams coach for that play? Some of the other stuff maybe,
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  but for that play, a player trying to make a play and just
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  not getting down, I guess, yeah, I don't think cost that fumble,
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  yeah. I I think that's a big problem
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  that we see sometimes is that when we're emotional, we, we tie
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  everything. Everything we see is indicative
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  of of what our problem is in our head.
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  So like we've got in our head, yes, Sue is a problem.
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  We've had special teams excuse. We have this.
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  And we have we still you got. Together, yes, you do still
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  definitely is done. And that's that's a discussion I
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  think we'll have later. But you know, I think I said it
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  earlier, sometimes you need to use a knife down a machete.
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  That yes, you have said that. That has been one of your look.
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  At the problems, we need to actually address the problems
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  and cut out the problems, not take a machete to everything.
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  Not not everything that goes wrong is necessarily.
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  For every problem for every. Reason sometimes shit happens.
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  For every reason that we love Jay Lane is why he fumble that
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  ball. True a couple of weeks ago when
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  he took one for a touchdown when people was all around.
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  I'm like, don't run that, don't run that and he and he's gone.
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  You know what I'm saying? So it's like how do you tell him
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  not to try to make a play and that happens.
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  I get it man. You know, just stuff like that,
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  man. I just again, it is Tuesday.
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  Hopefully all the alcohol is out of everybody's system.
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  I just want y'all chat everybody watching.
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  If you watching the next day, that means it's Wednesday.
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  Slow down, Just slow down and get some take a breath.
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  You know, go in your tweets hard as you want to, but when you two
• 20:58
  and three days later, if you can't come with the substance
• 21:01
  behind it, because I'm that kind of dude, you know what I'm
• 21:03
  saying? When you want to talk football,
• 21:04
  let's talk substance. I'm good.
• 21:06
  I'm good to fire everybody. I care.
• 21:08
  All the time. Every other day.
• 21:10
  You can fire everybody. I'm fine with that.
• 21:12
  I I don't have no ties to no coaches.
• 21:14
  You know what I'm saying? I care about watching the kids
• 21:17
  play. I care about watching the Hokies
• 21:18
  play. But if we're just going to get
• 21:20
  on the timeline and we just going to fire away these takes
• 21:23
  over and over and over, just give me some substance behind
• 21:25
  it. You know what I'm saying?
• 21:26
  That's all I'm saying. 100% Well, you already started.
• 21:30
  As we usually do, we like to tell the truth, and we've been
• 21:32
  telling the truths since the first iota.
• 21:35
  You said it and you talk about substance, so I'm going to give
• 21:39
  you my first substance. So we talked about what went
• 21:41
  bad, y'all. We got an identity problem
• 21:44
  because we can't run the ball 27 times and pass the ball 27
• 21:49
  times. We cannot do that.
• 21:51
  And that's what happened Saturday.
• 21:53
  We ran the ball 27 times. We ran the ball 27 times for 183
• 21:58
  yards. Do the math.
• 22:01
  That's almost 8 yards of carry. We passed the ball 27 times.
• 22:06
  We, if you tell me we're 5050 the rest of the year, I couldn't
• 22:09
  tell you what the the record's going to be, but we can't do
• 22:12
  that, y'all. I think it's situational too.
• 22:15
  And and and go with me on this. I think if we get to 27, but
• 22:22
  it's like 6535 run early in the game and we've got a 8 or 10
• 22:27
  point lead and we can start get doing a little this little that
• 22:31
  work some screens in, you know, work, work different areas of
• 22:35
  the field in the passing game. Being closer to 5050 is not a
• 22:38
  problem. But when you're running for 8
• 22:40
  yards of carry and you're 5050 and you're having very
• 22:44
  ineffective work through the air, like what what are we doing
• 22:49
  here? We we got to understand the flow
• 22:51
  of the game. And I think that's where some of
• 22:52
  this inexperience in like sticking a little too rigidly to
• 22:56
  the opening game plan. When you see that pay things
• 22:58
  aren't quite going the way we want them to.
• 23:01
  We need to do something a little different.
• 23:05
  I don't even know if I want to go in.
• 23:06
  I don't even know if I want to do.
• 23:08
  I mean, I don't even know what to start.
• 23:10
  I'm telling everybody to calm down.
• 23:11
  Like I didn't thought about this.
• 23:12
  So this is it. This is this is how I feel.
• 23:16
  You have one legit in the NFL guy on that offense right now,
• 23:22
  he is your running back. He's #33 he has left it all on
• 23:26
  the field for us. Every time he's able to play,
• 23:29
  your offense has to go through him that that's it like we are
• 23:35
  over thinking things. We putting a fucking backup
• 23:37
  quarterback in to be in the slot, the play receiver to set
• 23:41
  up for some play that who we going who we going to run the
• 23:44
  play against. We don't lost two games.
• 23:46
  What what are we doing? And then I look at a wide
• 23:49
  receiver come in like Takahi and I'm like, Dang, he's got some
• 23:52
  great feet. Why don't we give him the ball
• 23:54
  in space, Things like that. I do not understand.
• 23:57
  I'm not telling them and I said this on on on the timeline.
• 24:02
  I said I would probably go to my NFL running back and say, how do
• 24:07
  you feel, man? How many times you think we need
• 24:10
  to give you the ball 3025 you taking care of it 25 times.
• 24:16
  You know, you feel you feel like Jamal Anderson, you want to you
• 24:20
  want to take it 60 times today. I'm not saying give him the ball
• 24:23
  60 times. What I'm saying, if he's
• 24:25
  averaging 8 yards a carry, 5 yards a carry, and he's telling
• 24:30
  you he can go, like you got to get him the ball, the office has
• 24:34
  to go through him and that's going to open up other stuff.
• 24:36
  And also, I'm not a quarterbacks coach, Tyler Bowen, and a
• 24:41
  quarterback coach either, but everybody told me that was going
• 24:44
  to be fine. So I ain't going to say nothing.
• 24:47
  Kyron is not the quarterback that they trying to make him be.
• 24:50
  They got to let him go be Kyron. I think I said this last.
• 24:53
  Week 2 weeks ago. Maybe two weeks ago, just let
• 24:56
  him go be him when things breakdown and he starts running.
• 24:59
  I don't know if he's been told not to run.
• 25:01
  I don't know if he don't want to run.
• 25:03
  I don't really know if 33's hurt and he's 75% and he's still
• 25:06
  giving us what he's giving us. I still got to say, hey man, can
• 25:10
  you go? But back to like you got to let
• 25:14
  Kyron be Kyron. Quit trying to make him a a drop
• 25:17
  back passer and throw the ball 30 times with him down.
• 25:22
  It's just not working that you have to find your identity
• 25:26
  because the one we're trying to create is not the real idea.
• 25:30
  The one we're trying to create is not who we are.
• 25:33
  And and that is that's what's bad right now on the offensive
• 25:38
  side. We already talked about the
• 25:39
  defense. It's it's, it's, it's
• 25:40
  discipline. It's the discipline of staying
• 25:42
  with you, man, staying committed.
• 25:45
  And it's not once, it's not twice.
• 25:48
  It's not two games. It's three games because that
• 25:50
  ODU game, we saw it on that one play.
• 25:53
  We saw that one play. So you know, it's here.
• 25:56
  It's not oh, they're just better than out scheming us.
• 25:58
  No, because that was over to you.
• 26:01
  That shouldn't have happened there.
• 26:03
  And we've already hit the other thing I want to talk about and
• 26:05
  thank you, Tally for doing it because you're making this go
• 26:07
  quick for us. We're not prepared.
• 26:11
  We're not prepared. Every week we look so unprepared
• 26:17
  and even more so when the bad things happen.
• 26:21
  Bad things are going to happen right in football.
• 26:23
  Bad things are going to happen in sports in general if you play
• 26:25
  them long enough. So when the first bad thing
• 26:29
  happened Saturday, which was the fumble, it just looked like, Oh
• 26:33
  my God, here we go again compared to what happened one
• 26:37
  minute and 30 seconds earlier. 2 yard loss in the backfield.
• 26:41
  I think we had, do we have a sack on that first drive?
• 26:44
  We had multiple. They lost multiple yards on
• 26:47
  multiple plays on that first drive and they had a punt and
• 26:52
  then we were deering headlights for the next.
• 26:55
  What felt like what felt like the next quarter and a half.
• 26:59
  And to me, that's being prepared.
• 27:00
  That's the coaches like snap out of this shit, y'all.
• 27:04
  This game 00, Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:09
  And I think the the sloppy play in general, I think on both
• 27:12
  sides of the ball, whether it's the, you know, preparedness and
• 27:16
  not really being where where you need to be with your eyes and
• 27:19
  trust in that from a defensive standpoint, being a little more
• 27:25
  reckless with the ball than you'd like to see on the
• 27:29
  offensive side of the ball. I mean, you know, effectively
• 27:33
  what if you factor in the safety, the turnover on downs
• 27:37
  and the turnovers themselves, It's like, you know, five or six
• 27:41
  turnovers where you where you gave the ball back to Rutgers
• 27:45
  without punting or scoring right?
• 27:48
  So this is this is a problem because it puts them in plus
• 27:54
  territory right out the gate. You got a running game.
• 27:57
  I mean, we're we're lucky between the missed field goals
• 28:00
  and the Woodson's strip fumble, they're right at the goal line
• 28:05
  that it wasn't worse than it was, right.
• 28:09
  And and a lot of that goes to the turnovers because pretty
• 28:12
  much every one of those, we set them up in pretty good field
• 28:15
  position. And we keep doing it.
• 28:18
  Yes, we do All righty. So real quick, anything y'all
• 28:25
  want prepared for anything that shocked y'all Tally, you
• 28:27
  mentioned it a few minutes ago, the one I the one that I said I
• 28:31
  was not prepared for. If you told me we held them to
• 28:34
  what we held them rushing the ball per carry.
• 28:37
  Oh my God, we can whip their ass.
• 28:39
  We don't beat the shit out of them.
• 28:41
  They can't get 3 yards of carry. They ain't breaking.
• 28:43
  They the longest one they had was 12 yards.
• 28:46
  Oh, if you would show me that's that line.
• 28:49
  Saturday. At 7:00 and I didn't get to see
• 28:52
  any of the game. I would have been like.
• 28:55
  We probably won this game 2817 because they kept trying to
• 29:00
  pound it down our throats and they they couldn't break.
• 29:04
  Hey, Curtis, got to tell you something.
• 29:05
  We weren't prepared for. Split zone.
• 29:08
  RPO. Even though we've seen it, aim
• 29:12
  one. And you know what else I think?
• 29:15
  We weren't prepared for, I've been, I ain't going to say I
• 29:18
  guess I wasn't prepared for it because I I thought we would be
• 29:21
  prepared for it, I guess. OK.
• 29:24
  Rutgers is so. Their physical man, physical
• 29:26
  shit. And like when I watch.
• 29:28
  Us play where we are a little bit more physical than we have
• 29:32
  been in the past. But when I look at a team like
• 29:35
  that, I'm like they are physical.
• 29:37
  You know what I'm saying? We got to get more physical it
• 29:41
  because they're running backs like I'm watching a couple of
• 29:43
  times where their running backs are being hit by two and three
• 29:46
  people and then knocking people back and we got people just
• 29:48
  getting hurt. You know what I'm saying?
• 29:50
  Just having to get helped off and things and you can't help
• 29:53
  with injury. But I'm just saying like, what
• 29:56
  are we, what are, what are we doing?
• 29:58
  What are we doing with the strength and conditioning?
• 30:00
  Are we conditioning? How are we conditioning?
• 30:02
  What's our strength? This has been a problem.
• 30:05
  Oh man, this has been a problem. We're not Big 10 level.
• 30:08
  Strength of edition. Right now it's Rutgers from the.
• 30:11
  Big 10 and I ain't talking like I understand Rutgers is a
• 30:13
  physical school, but how long are we going to like, how long
• 30:17
  are we going to wear that that badge?
• 30:20
  You know what I'm saying? Like you go out and you get
• 30:22
  somebody who helps you developed.
• 30:26
  You know what I'm it is it is it the strength and condition
• 30:29
  program? Are they not getting enough to
• 30:31
  eat? Yeah, I'll get some black people
• 30:33
  in there and cook for them kids so they can get some, so they
• 30:36
  can gain some weight. We're going to put a whole bunch
• 30:38
  of salt and shit in their food. They're going to have high blood
• 30:40
  pressure, but they're going to get beat.
• 30:42
  They they going to. Retain.
• 30:44
  Water. Retain water.
• 30:46
  Hey, something like, but for real, it's like when I watched
• 30:50
  US play against a team like that, I'm like like when I
• 30:54
  watched US play against Vanderbilt, first of all, when I
• 30:56
  walked in there, I was like, damn, they.
• 30:58
  They big like they was. Bigger than I thought they was,
• 31:00
  you know what I'm saying? Like the big motherfuckers.
• 31:03
  And then when the game starts going and I see people, it ain't
• 31:08
  just older, we're getting beat. Like people running past us.
• 31:11
  Are they doing this? Like when I see us getting
• 31:14
  pushed down, when I see us getting jammed at the line or we
• 31:18
  can't jam them at the line, stuff like that.
• 31:21
  I'm like, damn, they physical, we got a we got to do some, we
• 31:25
  got to we got to handle some stuff different man.
• 31:26
  So I wasn't prepared for that. I I knew it would be a physical
• 31:30
  game, but a lot of times we looking like the nail steel.
• 31:36
  It's a good way to put. It we are a lot of times we are
• 31:39
  looking like the nail and and it just.
• 31:43
  It's not what we're. Well, the whole thing is I think
• 31:45
  some of us are numb to it because for so many years we
• 31:48
  were the hammer. We were the hammer on the
• 31:50
  defensive and the offensive side of the ball.
• 31:53
  In the last decade plus, it's it's, it's gone the opposite
• 31:57
  way. I like what Andretti said, man.
• 32:02
  And I know. To me, it's really weird.
• 32:04
  We, we, we love. I love Frank.
• 32:07
  I love Bud. Once in a generation coaches
• 32:11
  Mike Drenching was a once in a generation strength guy, he was
• 32:15
  a. Once in a.
• 32:15
  Generation Strength guy and. Those guys are getting.
• 32:20
  Paid. 1.21. Point 3 million the best guys in
• 32:23
  the country are getting paid insane amounts of money, but we
• 32:28
  know the importance of it now right so.
• 32:31
  We'll. Move on.
• 32:34
  We we've already mentioned Tootin and somebody put it up
• 32:38
  here and Sheldon pulled it out for me too.
• 32:39
  So Steven, shout out to you. He has the most missed tackles
• 32:43
  in the country, 30 in four games.
• 32:46
  That's insane. That's an insane amount.
• 32:49
  He's got a ton of yak, so he's making contact. 148 yak of the
• 32:58
  100 and excuse me, 148 yak. That was our total on Saturday,
• 33:04
  so 148 yak. So whenever we were running, we
• 33:06
  were getting contact early. We kept going.
• 33:09
  So shout out to those guys. But what else do you all like?
• 33:14
  Because tally we we lost this game by three.
• 33:17
  We didn't get could it have been 13 Brian?
• 33:21
  It could have could we have won by 13?
• 33:24
  Yes. So the whole thing.
• 33:27
  Is as bad as it is and like Tally, you know you had the
• 33:31
  space going on Saturday night. Shout out to you for getting
• 33:34
  that thing going and giving everybody a voice.
• 33:39
  I loved it. I.
• 33:39
  Was trying to sit here at one point I said tally, I can't jump
• 33:42
  on my Mama sitting next to me. I can't.
• 33:44
  I can't jump on right now. I want to but I can't.
• 33:48
  And. You're getting all the.
• 33:50
  Voices and your hearing stuff but we were all doom and gloom.
• 33:54
  But you start looking it's like. There's some.
• 33:57
  Good things still happen. Yeah, man, it's.
• 34:00
  You know first of all, listen, let me tell y'all something.
• 34:03
  Protect your mental man, protect y'all's mental health.
• 34:08
  Y'all get so wrapped up in this sports and we all.
• 34:12
  Got something? Tied to it as far as like we
• 34:14
  love the team or we love the players, but man, there's some
• 34:18
  players in that is mad because they lost too.
• 34:20
  There's some parents that's mad because the kids didn't get to
• 34:22
  play. There's some coaches that's mad.
• 34:24
  So man, they're not just having parties and happy that they lost
• 34:27
  either. So just got to chill out
• 34:29
  sometimes man with just how it used to ruin my like before I
• 34:35
  got deep into my son's sports because now he's old enough
• 34:39
  where it's serious. It used to ruin my weekend.
• 34:43
  It used to ruin my week when we lose a game.
• 34:47
  I'm talking my wife knew like y'all don't bother him he's he
• 34:50
  ain't in a good mood, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:52
  But. Now it's just like, I mean, I
• 34:56
  got to. Just.
• 34:57
  I'm going to enjoy it and I'm going to be upset and then we
• 35:00
  going to talk about it. We going to vent to each other.
• 35:01
  We're going to get it out and I got to let it go.
• 35:04
  But I'm going to look at things and I'm going to add some
• 35:06
  substance to it. I'm not just going to.
• 35:09
  I'm not just trying to create. Some click bait for y'all just
• 35:12
  to to follow me. I mean y'all going to follow me
• 35:14
  anyway, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:16
  I'm going to follow y'all anyway.
• 35:17
  We, we are family. Like I'm not just trying to get
• 35:20
  engagement from y'all. Y'all don't got to talk to me if
• 35:22
  you want to. But if you want to talk man,
• 35:24
  let's vent and let's get it out. And I'm not just going when I do
• 35:27
  a space, you know, thank y'all for everybody who showed up to
• 35:30
  and I do a space. I want everybody to talk but we
• 35:33
  ain't just going one person talk and then we just going to go
• 35:36
  with that. Like I want to hear everybody's
• 35:37
  opinion, you know what I'm saying?
• 35:38
  We're going to talk it out. I'm going to throw something.
• 35:40
  Up here real quick, Hokies rock. I don't know your age.
• 35:44
  We are three guys with kids, with wise, with professional
• 35:47
  Christians. Like it used.
• 35:50
  To be bad bad for all of us, but we have gotten older we mature
• 35:54
  and if you're older than us guys speed I'll.
• 35:57
  Say this too, I think having this outlet and, and just our
• 36:01
  crew in general, like we're able to kind of talk it through as
• 36:05
  we're going and understand that I'm going to have one to two
• 36:10
  hours to vent and get everything off my chest that I want to.
• 36:14
  But also I've gotten to a point now where I like to process
• 36:18
  things a little bit before I throw out my big takes.
• 36:22
  Because a lot of times like I, I, I love the emotion of the
• 36:26
  moment and, and I try to, I try to feed off of that too.
• 36:30
  But sometimes you got to let things marinate a little bit.
• 36:33
  And and and kind of put. Things in perspective and I've
• 36:36
  I've been trying to do that a lot more and I think one of the
• 36:40
  hardest things was watching that Vanderbilt game and then, you
• 36:44
  know, I'm in Nashville. I got to go out and I'm planning
• 36:47
  on having a good night out on out, on out on the town now and.
• 36:51
  I'm processing. This loss and I'm like, all
• 36:53
  right, all right, I got, I got to be able to compartmentalize a
• 36:57
  little bit. I think as you get older, you
• 36:58
  get better at compartmentalizing, dealing with
• 37:01
  losses and to the point he he made there, it's like still.
• 37:08
  Bothers you? It's.
• 37:09
  Just you do what you, you manage that bother in a different way
• 37:13
  and that's what and that's. What I was getting there and
• 37:15
  Hokey Rock shout out to. Yeah, Hokey's rock shout out to
• 37:18
  you, man. He said he's been 30 years.
• 37:20
  He never missed a home game. That's some dedication right
• 37:23
  there, man. It is.
• 37:24
  All of y'all is talking. Hey, y'all better shut up.
• 37:25
  This man has been putting serious time and effort into the
• 37:28
  program, but no kind of how Brian put it was perfect, man.
• 37:32
  It's just now I have more outlets that I have people that
• 37:35
  I can talk to. And I mean when I say it doesn't
• 37:38
  bother me the way it used to. Like I'm on blood pressure
• 37:40
  medicine. Y'all like this is serious.
• 37:42
  I'm 38 years old. I know some of y'all may have
• 37:44
  seen me. You may have seen me.
• 37:46
  I'm a big ass dude, man. I'm 6 to 380 lbs Like I, I can't
• 37:52
  be, I can't have my head hurting for two days because we lost.
• 37:57
  That's what I when I say it doesn't bother me like that.
• 37:59
  Like the doctor was like, do you like living?
• 38:01
  Like you can't be getting that mad.
• 38:04
  You got to chill out. And that's how I used to be like
• 38:07
  ears hot, you know, eyes boiling water.
• 38:10
  You can boil rice with the water to come out of your eyes.
• 38:12
  Not like I'm crying, but you just, you just pissed and not
• 38:15
  pissed for like 15 minutes after the game.
• 38:18
  I'm talking pissed for 2-3 days a week.
• 38:22
  Like I just can't, I can't do that no more.
• 38:23
  And like these guys have helped me.
• 38:26
  If you don't have a therapy session, you got one now.
• 38:29
  You, you hop on here. You hop on here Tuesday night
• 38:32
  with us, man, Grab you some Gatorade or some fake Gatorade.
• 38:36
  Let's let me show you all this, too.
• 38:37
  I'm getting a little fake Gatorade.
• 38:38
  Hey, this is sports. Drinks from from Sam's Club.
• 38:43
  It's cheaper. I love it.
• 38:45
  They just call it. What it is?
• 38:47
  I think it's they don't sugar coat that shit at all.
• 38:49
  I think it's got more sugar in it.
• 38:51
  But hey, this what I've been knowing man, I'm trying to save
• 38:54
  money. They kill in my pockets.
• 38:57
  But no, you're making. The point tally, and maybe
• 38:59
  that's what it is these last 5-6 years for all of us.
• 39:03
  It's between Twitter social medias this.
• 39:07
  Especially. And for y'all out there
• 39:10
  listening, and it's a lot of y'all tonight, put it over
• 39:13
  there. Let that be the place where you
• 39:15
  get all your shit out right here, right in the comments
• 39:18
  section. Tell us how you feel.
• 39:20
  Oh man, I don't know, Andretti. The Eagles are a roller coaster,
• 39:25
  just bad. As the I'm going to put it up
• 39:27
  here, the Eagles are a roller coaster just as bad.
• 39:30
  Talk about inconsistent. Play from team with talent.
• 39:35
  Man, I don't I don't know how Andretti standing after the
• 39:39
  weekend that he's had between watching his two teams and I
• 39:44
  like what Steven said Steven, this is the one of the first
• 39:46
  time I've seen your name and I'm going to put you up for a second
• 39:48
  time tonight. Support them support them
• 39:52
  because trust me, you got two guys on this podcast when Brian
• 39:56
  and Tally they played collegiate football.
• 39:58
  They. Nobody's going.
• 40:00
  Out there and wanting to lose right those guys are giving it
• 40:05
  everything they've got but they are 18 to 20 year old kids go
• 40:08
  back to what you were doing at 18 to 20 year old to 22.
• 40:11
  Think about your mentality at that point.
• 40:14
  Yeah. And and I don't.
• 40:15
  Think the money being involved plays that big of a role for me
• 40:20
  personally. Number one is, is because it
• 40:23
  should have already been there to begin with with the way
• 40:26
  others were making money off of what they were doing on the
• 40:29
  field and their talents. So and that is what it is.
• 40:32
  That's another conversation. But you know, I, I think I think
• 40:36
  the thing we like to do and I think the thing that that we do
• 40:39
  pretty well is that we're, we're going to give you our honest
• 40:42
  opinion about what's going on, who's doing it, why it's going
• 40:46
  on. But we're still, it's all, it's
• 40:48
  still all love like we love. This is still a.
• 40:51
  Family. They're talking about the team,
• 40:53
  we're talking about you guys, we're talking about the whole
• 40:56
  whole entity of Hokey Nation. So it it's all love.
• 41:00
  We all want the same thing. At the end of the day, everybody
• 41:03
  wants the same thing. Everybody wants to win football
• 41:05
  games. 100% one. 100% we got to just a couple more things to hit
• 41:11
  here. Before we jump out.
• 41:13
  I want to give a shout out to Xavier Chaplin because Xavier
• 41:16
  Chaplin got banged up pregame for Marshall.
• 41:19
  He played like 2 snaps and he got off the field.
• 41:22
  That man absolutely held it down on the left side Saturday.
• 41:26
  He mauled people in the run game.
• 41:28
  You didn't see any pressures from his side.
• 41:32
  And The thing is the way he's developing, and this is where
• 41:36
  I'm going to say something and some people are saying Ron Cook
• 41:39
  needs to be fired. I've told Tally this, I've told
• 41:41
  Siegel this. There are two kids on the line
• 41:44
  that have had his tutelage more than anybody like his.
• 41:47
  Just his tutelage. No other outside voices.
• 41:51
  That is Xavier. Chaplin, and that is Braylon
• 41:54
  Moore. Guess who have been probably the
• 41:56
  most consistent guys on the line all year, the two young guys.
• 42:00
  So when people say fire on crooks, he's the POF.
• 42:03
  He don't know how to coach your two young guys who literally he
• 42:07
  took from when they were red shirt freshmen to right now
• 42:11
  they're playing the bet. So is it him?
• 42:13
  Is it him? Is he the problem?
• 42:16
  Or is it Oh no, they're just. Really good they could,
• 42:18
  honestly. Well, honestly to me man, what I
• 42:22
  think, and it happens a lot of times in sports from Little
• 42:26
  League up to college to pro. Sometimes coaches overthink
• 42:32
  things, man, and they want to give the seniors their
• 42:35
  seniority. That work seniority screws up a
• 42:38
  lot of stuff. I told some people this in the
• 42:41
  space the other day, man. And I'm not saying like again,
• 42:45
  somebody just put it in the Johnny Garrett is doing well as
• 42:47
  well. If you look at the.
• 42:51
  Line, you don't have to have played any kind of offensive
• 42:54
  line. You can look at the line and go,
• 42:56
  oh, that motherfucker right there is worse than them or he's
• 42:58
  better than them, but he's able to block that guy.
• 43:00
  He ain't. But we keep putting these guys
• 43:03
  out here who who can, who continuously get beat and that
• 43:06
  and somebody say as well think how bad some of the other people
• 43:10
  have to be for them not to put them in.
• 43:12
  You don't know what they're going to do.
• 43:13
  Like you don't have enough sample size.
• 43:16
  To understand your right tackle. Has sacked your quarterback and
• 43:19
  almost broke his ankle. Like, I know it was a funny clip
• 43:23
  to some people and I know some people was always so bad.
• 43:28
  And it's like, that wasn't a funny clip.
• 43:30
  Like if you go look at it and somebody said somebody put,
• 43:33
  yeah, somebody put on Twitter or one of those guys that put it up
• 43:37
  said nobody even touched him. He just fell down.
• 43:40
  No, he had a £330 man step on his Akon and roll it like.
• 43:45
  I don't know what I would have did.
• 43:47
  I might have shitted on myself. Somebody step on my right now
• 43:50
  like but I had got the other day and couldn't walk.
• 43:53
  So I'm just saying man, I ain't making no kind of excuses for
• 43:57
  anything that happened. It looks bad, but the.
• 44:00
  Coaches keep trying. To go with this, and I
• 44:03
  understand some of it is, oh, we want a red shirt, some people,
• 44:06
  so in the future we do have them to go here.
• 44:10
  Sometimes you got to go. You got to let some people go,
• 44:13
  man. You got to see what they got.
• 44:14
  You got to give them a chance under the lights.
• 44:17
  You got to get somebody out of the game and say, hey, man,
• 44:19
  you're screwing up, Come stand with me for a minute.
• 44:21
  I don't understand why we don't do that.
• 44:24
  I. Don't I really?
• 44:25
  Don't you know? And that's not just the
• 44:26
  offensive line, you know, you can go to the wide receiver
• 44:29
  room. Why?
• 44:31
  I love our wide. Receivers.
• 44:33
  But sometimes our wide receivers is missing balls.
• 44:35
  That's right, To the head. So guess what, if you miss a
• 44:38
  bark, I'm standing by me. Let's try another guy and see
• 44:40
  what he has. You know, Aiden Green made a big
• 44:42
  catch the other day. How many times have we really
• 44:44
  targeted him this year? You know, and some people say,
• 44:47
  well, the quarterback did this. Well, if you're the offensive
• 44:50
  coordinator and you really, really want to get somebody
• 44:52
  involved, you probably could tell the quarterback, we're
• 44:54
  going to run this play and I want you to throw this ball to
• 44:57
  that person. They intercepted.
• 44:58
  Let it happen. Like if you really want to get
• 45:00
  somebody involved, you can get them involved.
• 45:02
  Hey, we're ignoring the ex receiver.
• 45:04
  We want to get him involved. We're.
• 45:08
  Not doing some of that stuff. So again, the seniority thing, I
• 45:13
  think that kills a lot of teams. And from what I'm seeing right
• 45:16
  now, it's been a problem on ours.
• 45:19
  What? What?
• 45:19
  I'll add to that tally and you make really good points there.
• 45:22
  And I'll add this. I think the problem with the,
• 45:27
  the, the, the right tackle, you know, I think that's who we're
• 45:30
  mainly talking about in this scenario, right?
• 45:33
  The problem he has is that his negative plays are super fucking
• 45:37
  negative. Oh yeah.
• 45:39
  Like. Like.
• 45:42
  He. He he, he has a run.
• 45:45
  Of of of pretty decent play, but when he's bad, he's real bad.
• 45:50
  It it, it cost us first downs, it cost us balls, it cost us
• 45:55
  points. That's why it's a problem.
• 46:01
  It could have cost Kyra this. Season for real they got a
• 46:04
  broken it could have broke his ankle, his leg for real, you
• 46:07
  know, I don't know but that that's I mean you know somebody
• 46:09
  said here. APR leads the nation in sacks.
• 46:11
  I think Parker might be in the top 30 if they actually counted
• 46:15
  his three. Right.
• 46:17
  He's got 3, so he's in the. Top he is in the top 30,
• 46:21
  actually top 25 if you counted Hey Brian, if you can.
• 46:24
  See it? Put that.
• 46:25
  Put that quote up. It just went off my when they're
• 46:30
  talking about practice players versus gamers that haven't been
• 46:34
  discovered. Said you were listening.
• 46:37
  Yeah, put that up. That's that's that's a good
• 46:40
  point, James. I mean, we've talked about that
• 46:43
  as well. Some people are great practice
• 46:46
  players. You know, they do everything the
• 46:48
  coach asked them in practice. And I made this point.
• 46:51
  I think me and Chris Lester had lunch or dinner and we was
• 46:53
  talking about it a little bit in practice.
• 46:56
  You go hard on each other, but you don't go as hard as you go
• 46:59
  on the other team as far as you may go.
• 47:01
  Full effort at times, but I'm not going to say certain stuff
• 47:04
  to you, Brian and you on my team that I would say to somebody
• 47:08
  else. That's not on my When you get
• 47:10
  from the football game. It's if y'all have never been on
• 47:14
  the football field. Like it gets wild, man.
• 47:17
  You got people talking about people and nowadays I can
• 47:19
  imagine, man, like they got Internet.
• 47:21
  They they can find out your girlfriend's name and Instagram
• 47:24
  and they can they they're probably out there calling out
• 47:26
  TikTok names. Oh, I did that kind of research.
• 47:29
  Back in 2000, 2001, you know they do it now.
• 47:32
  I can imagine what's. Being said out there, they
• 47:34
  calling people's moms names and sisters and all types of stuff.
• 47:38
  So some people really can't handle that, you know what I'm
• 47:41
  saying? Like my kid is not a trash
• 47:43
  talker. He's just not that kind of guy,
• 47:45
  you know what I'm saying? So it's really possible knowing.
• 47:48
  The world. Handle it like.
• 47:51
  He, he's got better at it now the older these got, but he
• 47:54
  really, he gets so frustrated he's going to start crying, you
• 47:57
  know what I'm saying? Not crying as in, like, oh, I
• 47:59
  need to talk to my mom and dad. It's like he want to fight
• 48:02
  somebody. I'm like, you can't.
• 48:03
  You got to play, you got to play through it.
• 48:05
  You know what I'm saying? So if you want to get in and say
• 48:07
  it, especially basketball, you want to get in and say it, you
• 48:09
  got to talk trash to them. So some people, some players
• 48:12
  really can't handle that. They can't handle that aspect of
• 48:14
  the game. And it could be going on in the
• 48:16
  game, but you don't know that if you're not putting people in or
• 48:19
  you're not taking people out. Because I'm telling you this.
• 48:22
  If I was playing against #70 And I seen some stuff he done in the
• 48:26
  past and I seen what he looked like, I'm going to make up all
• 48:29
  kind of jokes against him to try to make sure that he and also.
• 48:33
  If I've watched tape on him, I'm I'm mixing in a bull rush and a
• 48:36
  spin move because every time, yeah.
• 48:38
  We going to go dance, buddy, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:41
  Are you like this merengue? We going.
• 48:44
  We going. We going to wrap.
• 48:44
  It up here in just a minute because believe it or not,
• 48:46
  Andrea has put up a good question and I want us to go
• 48:49
  around because we we always talk about what we can do better
• 48:51
  before. Well, it's not us, it's coaches
• 48:54
  and the players and we can talk about a bunch of stuff, but he
• 48:58
  threw this up here and I'll lead it off.
• 49:02
  Are we comfortable with the coaching?
• 49:03
  Staff to pull us out of the depths of where we are.
• 49:05
  First of all, this is not the bottom.
• 49:06
  We are not yet at the bottom. The bottom was Marshall last
• 49:11
  year. That was the bottom because.
• 49:14
  At that point in. Time Does everybody remember
• 49:16
  what the record was at that game last year?
• 49:20
  We went 4:00 and 11:00. Under Coach Pratt. 4:00 and
• 49:25
  11:00. We walked into the pit game last
• 49:27
  year every. Single one of.
• 49:30
  Us, I think with the exception, I can't remember back.
• 49:33
  I go look at it. I said we were going to lose
• 49:35
  like it's it's over. This shit's over.
• 49:39
  So we we can't answer that, Andrea, because in my opinion, I
• 49:43
  can't answer because I thought we were dead last year going
• 49:46
  into game five and then the next thing you know, I'm going to a
• 49:49
  bowl game. Yeah.
• 49:53
  Well, it it it. Depends on your question.
• 49:55
  It's a good question, but it's are we comfortable with the
• 49:58
  coaching staff to pull us out of the depths at the bottom they.
• 50:02
  Can pull us out. From where we are, you know what
• 50:04
  I'm saying, what we look like now, but can they get us to
• 50:08
  where you want to be or where we think we should be?
• 50:11
  That's a better question. I don't.
• 50:14
  Think and. This is just me speaking.
• 50:15
  I don't think that that staff has the capacity to get me.
• 50:19
  I'm saying me, I don't think they have the capacity to get me
• 50:23
  to the playoffs. I just don't.
• 50:24
  I don't think it's enough experience, you know, I just
• 50:27
  don't. I think pride is a great
• 50:30
  motivator. I think he's a good salesman.
• 50:33
  He he has done wonders for Virginia Tech.
• 50:36
  I'm sure if somebody probably post numbers and stuff about
• 50:39
  engagement and money, he's probably raised more money.
• 50:42
  His engagement is probably good from where we were.
• 50:45
  That's a great thing. But on the flip side, winning
• 50:49
  games, I don't think the staff is experienced enough to get me
• 50:54
  to the playoffs because I'm like, it's a 12 team playoff.
• 50:56
  We should, we got an opportunity to get that now.
• 50:58
  Well, no, we don't this year. You know what I'm saying for how
• 51:01
  we're playing. So that's my answer to it.
• 51:05
  You got to have some, you got to have more experience.
• 51:07
  You. You you're saying?
• 51:08
  Basically, they might can pull us out the depth, but they're
• 51:11
  not going to get us to the mountain top.
• 51:12
  No, they can. They can.
• 51:14
  Get us they can get us the bowl game.
• 51:16
  You know that when you say out of the depths, like the depths
• 51:19
  is last in the ACC, you know, losing every game.
• 51:23
  Like can they get us from there? Yeah, they can get us the bowl
• 51:25
  games. You know, we we probably can, we
• 51:27
  probably can squeak out six wins and stuff.
• 51:29
  Like like a dog. I want to compete for the ACCI
• 51:31
  want to win the ACC and and get a playoff.
• 51:34
  Like if you win the ACC, you go to the playoffs, you know what
• 51:38
  I'm saying? Like and the ACC.
• 51:40
  Is as wide open as it's been in a wide Who's going to win it?
• 51:43
  Yeah, I mean, I've heard everybody's name thrown in
• 51:46
  there. I heard Georgia Tech, I heard
• 51:47
  us. I heard Florida State.
• 51:48
  I heard Louisville, BCBC. Like, man, people don't know the
• 51:53
  ACC is always wide open. And it's like, do I trust this
• 51:56
  coaching staff to get us there? No, I don't, Ron.
• 52:00
  I I'm. I'm very much.
• 52:04
  Kind of in in in. Tally's boat here.
• 52:07
  I think we can. I think the staff is good to
• 52:09
  give us six to eight wins in a given year, depending on what
• 52:12
  schedule is, how things fall, what you know, who, who's on the
• 52:16
  roster that given year. I think I think we can do that.
• 52:19
  I don't have confidence right now that we can get ahead of
• 52:22
  that. I did at the start of the season
• 52:24
  because what I saw was a continued trajectory up.
• 52:29
  I don't like the way we started this season because we still
• 52:32
  look like an unprepared team like we did at the start of last
• 52:35
  year. That's not to say a switch won't
• 52:37
  be flipped when we get into ACC play, we're playing more common
• 52:40
  opponents, all that stuff. But that that's still capping
• 52:45
  our ceiling at that six to eight wins.
• 52:47
  And you're going to need about 10 to play for the ACC
• 52:51
  Championship in a given year, right?
• 52:53
  So I think that's that's where we run into problems.
• 52:55
  And I think part of it is that, you know.
• 52:58
  Goes back to that. Consistency piece.
• 52:59
  And I think the consistency piece ties into the experience
• 53:05
  of the folks that are at the top of the program.
• 53:07
  And I think having a first time head coach like Pry isn't the
• 53:10
  problem. I think pairing him with two
• 53:13
  first time P4 coordinators is kind of a recipe for things that
• 53:19
  can get you off off track and it's going to lead to that
• 53:22
  inconsistency. These guys are capable of
• 53:25
  putting putting you in a good position.
• 53:27
  They have not proved to be capable of doing it consistently
• 53:31
  every week, game to game. And that and that's.
• 53:35
  Where we're seeing the problems, that's where we're seeing these
• 53:37
  fissures. And I think, you know, you're,
• 53:40
  you're kind of learning on the job.
• 53:41
  And we, we had hoped last year that they, they both turned the
• 53:44
  corner and it kind of found their footing.
• 53:47
  And it seems like we're still not quite there yet, right?
• 53:52
  But I agree with that. That's a great way to wrap.
• 53:54
  Up this segment because it it's true and the whole thing is
• 53:58
  because what what I always what what I look at is right.
• 54:03
  Now we're mad. We are.
• 54:06
  We were mad last year at this. Time we were happy at the end of
• 54:09
  the season though. It's still out.
• 54:12
  There because if and I know people are put in the check,
• 54:15
  could we get you listen, that's going to be done at the end of
• 54:19
  the season. We are.
• 54:20
  In we are in. College football, really do you
• 54:23
  see people get fired in the middle of the season?
• 54:24
  So you're saying they need to fire right now?
• 54:26
  They need to fire right now. You don't know.
• 54:29
  Because you know, I can sit here and say, do you want to fire
• 54:33
  everybody? If they win the next 9
• 54:35
  consecutive games, we go to the playoffs.
• 54:38
  Would you? Seriously.
• 54:40
  Because we can sit here. We can say.
• 54:41
  Well, that's it. That's never going to happen.
• 54:42
  No, you're saying we're going to lose every game.
• 54:46
  But if we win non consecutive games, ain't no fucking by going
• 54:50
  to get fired. Do I think we're going nine
• 54:52
  games? No, just put that out there.
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  All right, well, let's get into it because believe it or not,
• 55:41
  the season didn't end on Saturday when we lost the
• 55:43
  ruckers. We got eight more games,
• 55:45
  hopefully more than that to play this year.
• 55:48
  And a quick turn around, quick turn around, short week.
• 55:51
  The game that we, a lot of us were worried about as the Hokies
• 55:54
  traveled to Miami Friday night. 7:30 at the shittiest stadium in
• 56:00
  the country, bar none. I don't care what anybody says,
• 56:04
  Atmosphere. Shittiest atmosphere, whatever
• 56:08
  you want to. Call.
• 56:10
  It. So let's talk.
• 56:11
  About this team because they are currently four and O and I
• 56:14
  believe the poll came out there 5th or 6th in the country.
• 56:19
  Did I hit 7th? 7th, 7th. 7th in the country.
• 56:24
  And let's talk about the offense first.
• 56:26
  Brian breakdown, Shannon Dawson's offense.
• 56:28
  Real quick man. Welcome to the new air raid.
• 56:33
  Different from the old air raid, right?
• 56:34
  So still want to get the ball in space to their athletes, make
• 56:39
  folks miss, crank out those big plays.
• 56:41
  But definitely a bigger emphasis on being physical upfront,
• 56:44
  having a reliable running game more so than your typical air
• 56:48
  raid, similar to what we kind of saw with with Marshall, very,
• 56:53
  very much a almost a run first air raid.
• 56:58
  But the philosophies are the same there.
• 57:01
  And they're, you know, similar to Marshall, not afraid to take
• 57:03
  shots here and there. They do a good job of getting
• 57:05
  their best players the football with frequency.
• 57:10
  All right, well, Tally. You can talk about him a little
• 57:13
  bit, tell him about the man who leads this team.
• 57:16
  We're. Talking about Cam Ward.
• 57:19
  We're talking about Cam. Ward Cam Ward is a.
• 57:21
  Beast Man Cam Ward is he's more of a.
• 57:27
  More of a pocket passer. Than I kind of thought he would
• 57:31
  be whenever I first heard about him but he's a he's a legit NFL
• 57:36
  quarterback he is going to given to if he's given time sit back
• 57:40
  there and he's don't dissect your defense he's going to
• 57:43
  spread the ball out. I don't know how many receivers
• 57:45
  he has that are over 100 yards, but it's a lot of them.
• 57:49
  He's, if you're open, he's getting you the ball.
• 57:52
  And when I say he's going to sit back there and dissect you, he
• 57:54
  can move too. You know, he's not just looking
• 57:56
  to take off running. But you can't keep him in a box.
• 57:59
  He's throwing it underhand, overhand, underhand, like he's
• 58:04
  legit. So we're going to have our hands
• 58:06
  full. Yeah, and if y'all.
• 58:08
  Really want to know about Kim Ward.
• 58:09
  He came really to fruition in 20/22.
• 58:12
  He was what? Incarnate Word quarterback at
• 58:16
  Incarnate Word in 2021? Yeah, 2, two seasons.
• 58:20
  In FCS went to Wazoo. Had some.
• 58:24
  Had some good seasons there before going to Wazoo.
• 58:27
  Real good seasons at Wazoo. And now he finds himself down in
• 58:30
  Miami. You know, like Tally said, big
• 58:32
  time dual threat weapon, man. I mean, he's going to be
• 58:35
  somebody you really got to check in in both areas of the
• 58:39
  offensive attack there. You know, good accuracy from any
• 58:42
  launch points. So he'll be able to throw it on
• 58:44
  the run, throw it from the pocket, whatever you want to
• 58:47
  see. Got a good mix of arm strength
• 58:49
  and accuracy, does good on both design runs and improv, even
• 58:54
  though they don't run a ton of design runs.
• 58:57
  It's a little bit of a gunslinger.
• 58:59
  He'll try to get it in there, but he those risks are usually
• 59:01
  calculated. He doesn't turn the ball over a
• 59:03
  ton and kind of similar to drones, he can get a little
• 59:07
  sloppy with his footwork. Sometimes it's processing is a
• 59:10
  little slow, especially when looking at those zone looks.
• 59:12
  So can have some holes in his game there, but definitely going
• 59:17
  to be probably the best quarterback that we look at all
• 59:20
  year. Well.
• 59:23
  It's the truth and I mean if you look at his numbers this year
• 59:27
  y'all and I'm looking strict at stats 4.
• 59:30
  Games. 1400 yards passing, 14 touchdowns, 2 picks.
• 59:34
  He's going over 11 per attempt, which is unbelievable.
• 59:40
  He's only ran the ball 12. Times.
• 59:42
  He's only ran the ball. Like 12, we got Robbie in here.
• 59:45
  Saying what I kind of thought and almost put in my notes was
• 59:48
  that. Oh.
• 59:50
  Man, don't say that. By the way, I believe he.
• 59:56
  Was someone they did try to get back in 2022 to come here?
• 1:00:00
  I feel like yeah. It was he was offered.
• 1:00:02
  When we we tried, we tried, damn it.
• 1:00:05
  But let's talk about now a couple of of his weapons.
• 1:00:11
  Xavier Restrepo, Let me. Let me.
• 1:00:15
  Just. Open somebody.
• 1:00:18
  For Xavier Restrepo, we can get to somebody.
• 1:00:21
  Just his numbers. The first four games this year.
• 1:00:24
  So the first four games for Xavier Restrepo, if y'all have
• 1:00:27
  not been paying attention, Xavier Restrepo, he has 20
• 1:00:32
  receptions already. He already has 360 yards.
• 1:00:35
  He's already got 5 touchdowns. He's averaging over 18 yards
• 1:00:39
  every time he touches the ball. You know some other things about
• 1:00:44
  him as well, and this was sent to me by our wonderful buddy
• 1:00:47
  Sheldon. He's not a terrible run blocker.
• 1:00:50
  He's got it like an A slightly above average grade and run
• 1:00:53
  blocking. I didn't get.
• 1:00:56
  To watch the. Tape.
• 1:00:56
  I'm trying to pull data points. Brian.
• 1:00:59
  What do you see on him? Tally anything you've seen from
• 1:01:02
  the games. I'll let Brian go first.
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, I mean, I. Think the big thing.
• 1:01:06
  I mean, he's their, he's their primary slot receiver.
• 1:01:10
  You know his, his big plays usually come after the catch.
• 1:01:12
  He's the guy that can move really well possession receiver,
• 1:01:17
  but still has that running back type vision, very similar to Jay
• 1:01:20
  Lane where he can find those gaps in the defense and turn
• 1:01:23
  short plays into big plays. You know, they got a couple guys
• 1:01:27
  outside that that do run the deep stuff and that lets him
• 1:01:30
  operate a lot more open kind of in the middle of the defense in
• 1:01:34
  those intermediate areas. And he definitely makes his hey
• 1:01:36
  there and does a really good job of turning those things into big
• 1:01:39
  place. Yeah, and that's just what I
• 1:01:42
  was. Going to say, I mean, talking
• 1:01:43
  about him, he's their guy. He's making a lot of stuff
• 1:01:47
  happen, but you got a lot of people around him.
• 1:01:49
  You got Horton is going 64, you got the tidy in Arroyo who's
• 1:01:55
  going 64. Like they got some big targets.
• 1:01:59
  He's not a big target. He's like 5-10, you know, 190, a
• 1:02:04
  good size. But you know, he's not a big
• 1:02:07
  bruising receiver, but when he gets his hand on the ball, he is
• 1:02:11
  a playmaker, so. We're going to have our.
• 1:02:15
  Hands full of man, we are you talking.
• 1:02:17
  About. Horton, Sam Brown, Arroyo
• 1:02:20
  Arroyo, like every time he's touching the ball, it's 20 plus
• 1:02:24
  like big shots downfield for him.
• 1:02:27
  It's I mean, this is this is this is the Miami they've been
• 1:02:35
  telling us about for 15 years and it.
• 1:02:37
  Might come to. Fruition they still they still
• 1:02:41
  going to. Go out there and win the games,
• 1:02:43
  but I'm starting to finally see talent with consistency happen.
• 1:02:47
  Now granted, outside of Florida, you know, not a ton of heavy
• 1:02:53
  competition, but I mean, you know, we we've seen the same
• 1:02:56
  thing and haven't done as well on our end.
• 1:02:57
  So it's not exactly we, we don't have a, a big leg to stand on
• 1:03:01
  from that standpoint, but they, they've been really good in
• 1:03:06
  every outing so far. And and it's really hard to to
• 1:03:10
  poke a ton of holes in what they've done so far. 100.
• 1:03:15
  Percent. Well, not only do they have a
• 1:03:19
  great passing game, they also have a pretty freaking good
• 1:03:22
  running game basically. They they LED Damian Martinez.
• 1:03:28
  As kind of their, their, their, their rock carrier.
• 1:03:33
  He's he's gotten 40 carries so far, averaging just under 5.
• 1:03:39
  But then they've got Mark Fletcher, who's gotten 20
• 1:03:42
  carries, averaging close to six. And then there's Jordan Lyle.
• 1:03:47
  And freshman. Freshman Jordan Lyle Freshman
• 1:03:50
  Jordan Lyle What? Else you got on him, Jordan
• 1:03:53
  Lyle. 'S got 3 touchdowns so far.
• 1:03:55
  He's got a 91 yard, 91 yard run. He's averaging 8 yards a carry.
• 1:04:01
  He's only touched the ball 29 times.
• 1:04:04
  Already has 233 yards. Like if.
• 1:04:07
  You got that? Many people over 100 yards,
• 1:04:10
  somebody's blocking, man. Same thing I said about Rutgers,
• 1:04:13
  like they got 4 backs, that's over 100 yards.
• 1:04:17
  You know that's. Almost 5.
• 1:04:20
  Yards and up carrying the ball. And again, you know, some of it
• 1:04:23
  does depend on who you playing, but I mean, look at who we
• 1:04:26
  playing. We ain't got that many backs
• 1:04:27
  with that many yards. So Jordan Lyle's going to be I
• 1:04:31
  mean, and, and Martinez as well because they're they're bigger
• 1:04:33
  backs, both above 6 foot or right at six foot.
• 1:04:37
  Now Martinez, they say he's going for like 240.
• 1:04:42
  Lyle isn't that big. He's more of a speed guy than
• 1:04:45
  Martinez is. But when I'm talking about being
• 1:04:48
  physical like this in the Miami of finesse, like they going to
• 1:04:52
  hit, we going to have to we're going to have our hands for him.
• 1:04:55
  Yeah, Lyle's got that. Kind of like he's he's big, a
• 1:04:58
  little bit taller, kind of like Adrian Peterson where where he's
• 1:05:02
  a a bigger back, but still with good speed, whereas Martinez is
• 1:05:07
  truly kind of a bruiser. So, you know, it's interesting
• 1:05:11
  to see. I mean, Martinez has the, you
• 1:05:14
  know, more carries so far. Lyle, definitely more of the
• 1:05:18
  home run hitter and you know, he's a guy that, yeah, he's
• 1:05:22
  going to, he's going to take those big plays to the house,
• 1:05:25
  man. He's not playing around.
• 1:05:29
  All right, I'm going to throw this.
• 1:05:30
  Out for you, Brian. I know you watch some tape and
• 1:05:32
  so you can give us a little bit more background, but overall
• 1:05:36
  it's impressive to look at their pass block grades.
• 1:05:41
  You got Francis Nagoya. I know I'm butchering his name.
• 1:05:45
  87.7 Carpenter to center. 86.8 Cooper, the one of the guards.
• 1:05:51
  85 McCoy 79. Their worst pass block is Markel
• 1:05:57
  Bell. He's gotten over 160 snaps.
• 1:05:59
  He's still at like 65, which is slightly above average.
• 1:06:03
  Now. It is interesting to see.
• 1:06:05
  So I, I kind of want to get y'all's taste because y'all, you
• 1:06:08
  know, y'all, y'all. Look at the trenches when y'all?
• 1:06:10
  Watch a game y'all both have always told me that because
• 1:06:13
  their run grades aren't as good, although there have obviously
• 1:06:16
  the two the three backs that we've mentioned are putting up
• 1:06:19
  good numbers. So from y'all's take from Brown
• 1:06:22
  when you watch and take Tally you watching the games?
• 1:06:27
  Is there any? Opportunities to potentially
• 1:06:30
  make hay against this online. I mean, I think the big thing
• 1:06:35
  we. Have to do is penetrate and get
• 1:06:37
  those early down tackles for loss.
• 1:06:39
  I think that's definitely the recipe to get them out of what
• 1:06:42
  they like to do in the running game because they still, you
• 1:06:45
  know, with that quick passing game, if they're running game,
• 1:06:49
  it just has to be effective for them to be able to occasionally
• 1:06:52
  take those shots downfield. And that that's that's where
• 1:06:55
  they can turn some of those other big plays outside the
• 1:06:57
  numbers a little bit. So it's going to be important
• 1:07:01
  that we do well on those early downs and get them out of of
• 1:07:05
  their schedule. And make them have.
• 1:07:08
  To get rid of the ball a little bit quicker.
• 1:07:12
  Yeah. Exactly what Brian said.
• 1:07:15
  I mean, there is you got some talented people on the defensive
• 1:07:18
  line that can, you know, create some havoc, but they're getting
• 1:07:23
  the ball quick, getting the ball out quick.
• 1:07:25
  And if they come out and they're able to throw the ball wherever
• 1:07:28
  they want to and you start trying to play the pass game and
• 1:07:32
  you're not able to put extra guys in the box to stop the
• 1:07:35
  running backs, you're going to be in for a long day too.
• 1:07:36
  So it's. Going to be fun man.
• 1:07:42
  Yeah, rivers must have. Been banged up, Rivers
• 1:07:45
  significantly less snaps. We appreciate it, new King.
• 1:07:49
  We appreciate you telling us this because from the look, he's
• 1:07:53
  going to be back. You know, does everybody come?
• 1:07:57
  Back How does everybody come back against us?
• 1:07:59
  It always happens that way, always comes back.
• 1:08:02
  Right. Not, not, not.
• 1:08:07
  Not, not a joke there. All right, let's flip over the
• 1:08:10
  defensive side of the ball. Let's talk about Lance Gendry
• 1:08:12
  scheme here, Brian. Yeah, I mean, we're looking at
• 1:08:15
  a. 425 base, but they kind of shift into, you know, several
• 1:08:19
  different looks. You'll see a 245 from time to
• 1:08:21
  time. They'll even roll A33 stack out
• 1:08:23
  there to give a different look, but it's going to be a a base
• 1:08:26
  425. They like to mix up those
• 1:08:29
  fronts, bring different pressure from different levels, create
• 1:08:32
  that confusion for the offensive line in any of the blitz
• 1:08:35
  pickups. And you know, they like to bring
• 1:08:38
  the edge pressure. They like to set a strong edge
• 1:08:40
  with their defensive ends in the run game.
• 1:08:43
  They do that pretty well. So we're going to have, you
• 1:08:45
  know, our hands full trying to get that outside zone rolling
• 1:08:48
  like we've had the last couple weeks.
• 1:08:50
  And their gap integrity is definitely a hallmark.
• 1:08:52
  So they they aren't out of place very often all.
• 1:08:57
  Righty now you got to say gap integrity is good.
• 1:09:03
  I hate hearing. Could you at least say it was
• 1:09:05
  bad gap integrity? Give me a little bit of hope
• 1:09:07
  there. Hey, Tyler, Let's talk about
• 1:09:09
  Tyler Baron a little bit, man, because I think Hokies players,
• 1:09:12
  Hokies should know who he is. Yeah, everybody should.
• 1:09:15
  Know who Tyler Baron is? Woody Baron's little brother
• 1:09:18
  that everybody thought we had a chance at getting.
• 1:09:20
  He goes to Tennessee and he transfers to Miami.
• 1:09:23
  Now he's at Miami. He's got 4 1/2 sacks this year
• 1:09:27
  so far. Please God, don't let him be
• 1:09:29
  going against Parker Clemens. He is going to don't speak.
• 1:09:34
  Like he is going to. Annihilate him.
• 1:09:36
  So I don't know man, you got to chip some people and and it's
• 1:09:39
  not just him. New King put it in there.
• 1:09:42
  I was going to say Bain hadn't even played the best defensive
• 1:09:45
  lineman has really not played this.
• 1:09:47
  She's only played like 3 snaps. He's supposed to be back this
• 1:09:50
  game too, so I ain't Tyler Baron's doing his job lineup in
• 1:09:59
  the wishbone. I don't know, you know what I'm
• 1:10:05
  saying. Maybe let's do what Air Force
• 1:10:06
  do. I don't know.
• 1:10:07
  We got to, we got to be creative this year.
• 1:10:09
  Maybe this is the the week that we've been doing all this trick
• 1:10:14
  settings and stuff. Maybe we're going to run some
• 1:10:16
  out of it this week. We'll see.
• 1:10:19
  What else did you catch on tape of Baron?
• 1:10:21
  He's been pretty well known prospect man.
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, I mean, he's like. He's kind of got that perfect
• 1:10:25
  blend of size and speed, right? He's a big boy, but he still can
• 1:10:28
  move great get off great high motor like not easily fooled
• 1:10:35
  with misdirection. So he's a pretty disciplined
• 1:10:37
  player. Only thing he really struggles
• 1:10:40
  with not not great with his hands especially kind of further
• 1:10:44
  into a snap if you kind of get on him and can struggle with pad
• 1:10:47
  level from time to time, you know later in games.
• 1:10:50
  But, you know, not a whole lot of holes in his game and and
• 1:10:55
  really a guy that you got to worry about in the run game and
• 1:10:59
  going after the quarterback. Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  And across the. Board PFF overall like a an 80
• 1:11:05
  from PFF, you start getting into the 80s and and you're pretty
• 1:11:10
  much just in the high 70s. You're fucking good and it's not
• 1:11:13
  a joke there, but obviously he ain't the only player they got
• 1:11:17
  you've got. Well, if I can.
• 1:11:21
  Find the name here, which I can't do.
• 1:11:23
  You got Michelle Powell. Michelle.
• 1:11:27
  Michelle Powell. 'S one of their defensive backs.
• 1:11:32
  A transfer from Washington, he was on the team to play for the
• 1:11:37
  national championship last year and honestly, if you take a look
• 1:11:43
  at what he did last year, he had three picks for Washington.
• 1:11:47
  Obviously a a key player in that team.
• 1:11:50
  He comes down to South Beach now.
• 1:11:52
  And what has he done so far for them on tape, Brian?
• 1:11:56
  Yeah. I mean, he's a guy that played
• 1:11:58
  some nickel and some safety on that, on that Washington team
• 1:12:02
  playing mostly box safety in this look, really good coverage
• 1:12:07
  skills, effective in run support, solid tackler.
• 1:12:12
  When you look at him in coverage, I like him more in man
• 1:12:15
  coverage. He can be, you know, a little
• 1:12:19
  suspect sometimes in zone, but he's definitely not a liability
• 1:12:23
  there. But definitely man
• 1:12:25
  responsibilities. I think he's a little bit better
• 1:12:27
  and some of that can kind of go back to his history as playing
• 1:12:30
  that nickel role he already. Got 2 picks this year too. 2
• 1:12:35
  Picks 2. Game and one of them was in the
• 1:12:37
  Florida game. If I am not must, Yeah, I'm
• 1:12:40
  pretty positive. I'm pretty sure he.
• 1:12:42
  Got it. You know, I I really didn't
• 1:12:44
  watch that game after what happened at 12 O clock that day.
• 1:12:47
  I don't have any. I don't have any issues not
• 1:12:49
  watching any other game right? All righty.
• 1:12:52
  Last man to look at here. Francisco is that who it is.
• 1:12:58
  Francisco all. Right.
• 1:13:02
  Wait a second, I already said this name once.
• 1:13:05
  What are you saying? Hey brothers, we got brothers
• 1:13:07
  on. The scene, Jeezy, you got
• 1:13:08
  Francis. And Francisco?
• 1:13:11
  What? What's Francisco done done so
• 1:13:14
  far on the stat line? You got that up, darling?
• 1:13:17
  He's already, Yeah. It's looking like he's got two
• 1:13:19
  sacks already. He's got about 28 total tackles
• 1:13:22
  at the moment. Linebacker position, of course
• 1:13:26
  he is. You know, stands about 63230.
• 1:13:30
  He's able to run a little bit senior, so he's been around
• 1:13:35
  football for a while and we don't have, I keep saying it,
• 1:13:41
  we're going to have our hands full.
• 1:13:42
  High offensive line is going to have their hands full of Brian.
• 1:13:46
  What you got on it? Yeah, I mean he's.
• 1:13:48
  A linebacker with great instincts.
• 1:13:51
  I mean, definitely kind of a fringe NFL caliber player here.
• 1:13:54
  Probably a little undersized for most NFL schemes, but plenty big
• 1:13:59
  for for what we're dealing with here.
• 1:14:02
  And he kind of do it all. He rushes the passer pretty
• 1:14:04
  well, plays the run coverage pretty well, decent in in in
• 1:14:08
  pass pro coverage as well. So I'd say, you know, probably
• 1:14:13
  his biggest attribute. He's a really great lateral
• 1:14:14
  defender. He moves side to side very well
• 1:14:18
  and sometimes he does struggle to match up in in man coverage.
• 1:14:22
  That probably be his biggest weakness.
• 1:14:23
  But other than that, solid linebacker overall, really going
• 1:14:28
  to be a tough, tough guy to hang with.
• 1:14:31
  Yeah, and he is. Literally their best PFF graded
• 1:14:36
  run defender. So clearly those instincts show
• 1:14:39
  off clearly the numbers that you've got there, tally, it's
• 1:14:43
  telling the story. The guy's a good linebacker.
• 1:14:46
  So there are some of the key players.
• 1:14:49
  Again, the new King. Thank you.
• 1:14:51
  Thank you for a couple of the infos there.
• 1:14:53
  We know y'all, we know y'all, y'all should beat us, but y'all
• 1:14:56
  still trying to be hiding stuff. Like why y'all trying to hide
• 1:14:59
  stuff against us? We need that good.
• 1:15:02
  All righty. Well, we got that done.
• 1:15:05
  Let's get into the keys for the Hokies because you still got to
• 1:15:08
  play the game and we see we still have to play the game.
• 1:15:13
  We've seen crazy. You should have them before, but
• 1:15:15
  tally for you what is your key this week for the Hokies?
• 1:15:19
  Got to find an identity. Man, got to find a offensive
• 1:15:23
  identity, got to figure out what kind of team you want to be
• 1:15:25
  moving forward, whether you win or lose the game, and you got to
• 1:15:29
  go out and you got to execute that identity.
• 1:15:31
  What we've been doing not working.
• 1:15:35
  Yep, and and. Not working out the gate.
• 1:15:37
  I think that's the big thing is, is the the game plans are rough,
• 1:15:43
  but I'm going to go a little bit of different area there.
• 1:15:45
  I'm going to say we got to limit game altering mistakes, whether
• 1:15:50
  that's turnovers, whether that's not being able to stop the same
• 1:15:54
  play 9 times 8. Was only eight.
• 1:16:00
  Well, they ran it 9. Times they only completed 8 of
• 1:16:02
  them. And they and they and they.
• 1:16:05
  Ran it again and they actually the quarterback rushed so it was
• 1:16:08
  still a successful play. So I'm counting 9.
• 1:16:13
  But just in general? Game altering mistakes, you
• 1:16:16
  know, you got a safety because you're, you know, you're right
• 1:16:18
  tackle, try to get your quarterback ankle broken.
• 1:16:22
  You know, we had a whole lot of plays that we left on the field
• 1:16:25
  that changed the the the shape of that Rutgers game.
• 1:16:29
  We got to limit that because if we don't limit that, that this
• 1:16:32
  game can get real ugly. If we limit that and we do what
• 1:16:36
  Tally was talking about and have an offensive identity, we might
• 1:16:39
  at least have a chance of of pulling the upset here.
• 1:16:43
  But it's going to take a lot, all right, and.
• 1:16:46
  Mine's not far from either of y'all, but it's it's play the
• 1:16:48
  complete game. We have seen stretches in this
• 1:16:52
  season where if you say if they play that game four quarters,
• 1:16:57
  they can hang with anybody in the country.
• 1:16:59
  But then there's been those quarters where it's been like
• 1:17:01
  they play like that. They may lose to the worst team
• 1:17:03
  in the country about 10 points. So it's play that complete game
• 1:17:07
  come out strong, make the adjustments quicker and to your
• 1:17:12
  point tally and it's it's both right.
• 1:17:15
  If you come out, you got your identity strong.
• 1:17:18
  OK, that's something you can take out of this game going
• 1:17:20
  forward because that's what we've got to find and this is
• 1:17:25
  the week. If you can find it this week
• 1:17:26
  going forward, absolutely wonderful prime to your point,
• 1:17:29
  the game alter mistake because it's not.
• 1:17:34
  One game it's 2. Games this year, those huge
• 1:17:37
  mistakes have effectively cost us the game.
• 1:17:40
  Those two mistakes have effectively cost us two games.
• 1:17:43
  So if you keep that and you play clean, maybe you do have a shot.
• 1:17:48
  So who knows? But as always, we give our
• 1:17:50
  predictions and we are not the homers of it.
• 1:17:54
  Tell them I'll let you go last on this one because I always let
• 1:17:57
  you go 1st every week. So I'm going to let you hear
• 1:17:59
  what other people got to say first and I won't go.
• 1:18:01
  That's fine. I do not see US winning this
• 1:18:04
  game. This was one.
• 1:18:05
  Even in the preseason, I said we would not win.
• 1:18:08
  I do think it's markedly close. I think it's at 19 1/2 right
• 1:18:11
  now. I think it's a little closer.
• 1:18:14
  I think a 3828 loss, unfortunately for the Hokies.
• 1:18:20
  I guess it's my turn. You know I.
• 1:18:23
  Think when we were looking at this, you know, Robbie's got to
• 1:18:26
  fear the Hurricanes coming through.
• 1:18:27
  I don't know if that's going to impact the game.
• 1:18:30
  We'll see to be determined, but just looking at kind of what
• 1:18:35
  what we've seen, what we what we know at this point.
• 1:18:40
  I don't know if I can trust. This offense enough to to hang
• 1:18:43
  with these guys for four quarters, I've got us losing
• 1:18:47
  this one by two touchdowns. So we still get under that
• 1:18:51
  spread, but we don't quite close the deal.
• 1:18:54
  It's going to be a 4127 Hurricanes.
• 1:18:59
  Yep. So I have us losing this game
• 1:19:04
  4228, I think that. I'm not going to do it.
• 1:19:10
  But if I was betting, I would bet on us to cover that spread
• 1:19:14
  just because it's so big and the Hokies like to break my heart.
• 1:19:18
  They won't just go lose a game by 40 points, you know?
• 1:19:22
  They won't just go get beat by 28, they want to make it look
• 1:19:26
  decent. They want me to be invested a
• 1:19:28
  little bit more for a couple of more games.
• 1:19:30
  So I got a feeling that, you know, we're going if.
• 1:19:34
  Anything I think. It looks like the the North
• 1:19:37
  Carolina State game last year where you know, kind of that
• 1:19:42
  that kind of looking game is what I feel we look.
• 1:19:45
  Ugly early, we pull close, then they fade us at the end, fade us
• 1:19:49
  at. The end.
• 1:19:50
  Exactly. All right, all right, that's our
• 1:19:52
  predictions. Feel free to throw yours in the
• 1:19:54
  chat boxes there. See if anybody's feeling us this
• 1:19:59
  week. All righty, let's move over,
• 1:20:01
  because that game's on Friday. And I know we're going to be sad
• 1:20:05
  and we're going to be potentially grieving Saturday
• 1:20:07
  morning, cursing on Twitter, being mad, texting each other,
• 1:20:11
  but we get it out of the way. Early, we get it out of the way.
• 1:20:14
  Early we get to watch games on Tally.
• 1:20:16
  You got baseball Saturday. I know I got baseball.
• 1:20:18
  My daughter my. Daughter's birthday is Friday,
• 1:20:20
  so she's coming home Saturday, and I have been.
• 1:20:26
  Nice enough to. Go shopping with her SO.
• 1:20:30
  I will. Be doing some shopping and
• 1:20:32
  eating lunch and spending some time with her on during the day
• 1:20:37
  probably. I got to get back home to watch
• 1:20:39
  Batman Georgia, all right? Or somebody.
• 1:20:43
  So you see. I'll be up in.
• 1:20:44
  Annapolis, Yeah. You're in Annapolis.
• 1:20:47
  I'm going to be here. I don't know.
• 1:20:48
  Maryland Ren. Fair.
• 1:20:50
  Oh man. We got we got baseball in the
• 1:20:53
  morning, I think early afternoon.
• 1:20:54
  So I'm going to see all the three 30s and night games.
• 1:20:56
  So all righty, here we go. Here we.
• 1:21:03
  Oh, Andretti. You kill me, man.
• 1:21:05
  You kill me. All right, let's go.
• 1:21:07
  Big screeners. Not a good game, William.
• 1:21:11
  All right. First new new kings.
• 1:21:13
  Pounding his chest a little bit too little bit.
• 1:21:15
  Too little bit too all right? Brian, you get the first game of
• 1:21:18
  this big screeners, yeah. We're.
• 1:21:22
  Going to. Notre Dame Baby Little South
• 1:21:25
  Bend, Louisville Notre Dame line is 6 1/2.
• 1:21:34
  I saw Louisville. Play and I was impressed, man,
• 1:21:37
  this past week and I bet against them in that game.
• 1:21:40
  I'm not going to do it again, so give me the cards.
• 1:21:44
  All righty. I also bet against them in that
• 1:21:46
  game. I did not get to see any of that
• 1:21:48
  game, but I think the Irish got snapped back to reality and they
• 1:21:53
  focused on actually doing what they do so.
• 1:21:58
  Home field. Advantage 6 1/2 points,
• 1:22:00
  definitely a big step up for Louisville.
• 1:22:02
  Give me Notre Dame. Notre Dame wins this game by 10
• 1:22:05
  points, but probably going to be in like if you can tally if you
• 1:22:08
  guys get back early shopping, this probably I think will be an
• 1:22:11
  entertaining game to watch. So Notre Dame.
• 1:22:15
  Shelton's got Shelton has Notre. Dame as well.
• 1:22:22
  I'm going to drop. Join my brother Brian and say
• 1:22:26
  Louisville in this game because I thought Louisville have always
• 1:22:30
  been like Louisville does but they look at president this year
• 1:22:33
  so I got to go with Louisville. All righty.
• 1:22:37
  Miranda's riding with us Tally and Jason is joining Curtis and
• 1:22:42
  Sheldon. So we got a full 3/3 split here.
• 1:22:46
  Brian first. 1. I know you want me to hit at.
• 1:22:48
  The end. But I got to mention last week
• 1:22:50
  real quick how everybody did, they did not put.
• 1:22:53
  Did Sheldon seriously not hit one right?
• 1:22:55
  I thought he rode with us on a couple.
• 1:22:58
  I don't think so. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:23:00
  I don't think so. I ain't Sheldon.
• 1:23:03
  What's wrong with you? Well, Tally.
• 1:23:04
  Everybody should have played you last week.
• 1:23:06
  Tally went four and two, Brian three and three, Miranda two and
• 1:23:11
  four, me and her saying two and four.
• 1:23:13
  The Music Man made some money last weekend.
• 1:23:15
  He was a very happy camper until he all lost it all in the NFL
• 1:23:18
  bets on Sunday he went five and one.
• 1:23:21
  Only one he didn't get right was his was his music pick and he
• 1:23:26
  says USD does not know how to party was the text we got.
• 1:23:31
  Saturday not know how to party. At a party.
• 1:23:35
  All righty, I got the next game I'm going to Happy Valley where
• 1:23:39
  it is a ranked matchup, Penn State versus Illinois.
• 1:23:42
  I wish I could have made it to the end of that game Friday
• 1:23:44
  night with Illinois, Nebraska, but I just, I got sleepy.
• 1:23:49
  I stay up late on Tuesday night. I stayed up late on Thursday
• 1:23:52
  night. I stayed up late Saturday.
• 1:23:53
  I had to get some sleep in there.
• 1:23:56
  So Penn State, Illinois, Penn State laying 17 1/2 points.
• 1:24:01
  Brian, before we get to my game, what do you got on this one?
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, man. What the fuck is up a 17 1/2?
• 1:24:08
  If you gave me 13 1/2 I might take it. 17 is too rich.
• 1:24:12
  Give me the 9. I I'm with you on that.
• 1:24:16
  It is way too rich and I know Penn State's that up and down
• 1:24:20
  team, but I think Illinois is well enough coach, they are well
• 1:24:24
  enough coach that they're going to say within at least, like you
• 1:24:28
  said, 13 1/2, maybe they lose about 14, but they cover the 17.
• 1:24:34
  Sheldon's riding with. Us tally what you got?
• 1:24:37
  Yeah, I got to go to Illinois. As well.
• 1:24:39
  Man, that's a lot of points A. Lot of points to lay a.
• 1:24:43
  Lot of points to lay and you know what?
• 1:24:45
  Clean, sweet baby I I I. The I.
• 1:24:49
  Formation tally the eyes have it.
• 1:24:52
  Tally we gonna. Run an I formation I formation
• 1:24:54
  man. We getting Sam Rogers to come
• 1:24:55
  back there and block again? All righty.
• 1:25:00
  Shawn's not here to talk about it, but a very interesting game
• 1:25:03
  out West with the pack twos wazoo versus Boise State.
• 1:25:07
  Boise ranked 25th. Boise, Memphis.
• 1:25:13
  We're starting to figure out who probably is going to be the G5
• 1:25:16
  Rep in the playoffs. This is on the blue turf on
• 1:25:19
  Saturday. I believe this is a Saturday
• 1:25:21
  night game. Hey I need.
• 1:25:24
  To start putting the times when I send you this as well so I
• 1:25:26
  know how late I'm staying up, Brian.
• 1:25:29
  On there. Sometimes a late.
• 1:25:32
  Night, they'll do it, especially it's a 10:00.
• 1:25:35
  It's a 10:00 game. I might be staying up to 1:00 on
• 1:25:38
  Saturday night watching this game.
• 1:25:40
  Boise lay 7 1/2 points at home. What do you think, Brian?
• 1:25:45
  It's just. A little too much.
• 1:25:47
  If you gave me 5 1/2, I'd take it. 7 1/2's a little too much.
• 1:25:50
  Give me a wazoo. Same, I would probably go 3 1/2
• 1:25:57
  because I think Wazoo has a chance to win this game
• 1:25:59
  outright. They they won the Apple Cup 2
• 1:26:02
  weekends ago and they luckily they got a San Jose to state not
• 1:26:06
  a Boise the weekend after. They damn near lost the week
• 1:26:08
  after. Wazoo keeps the Wazoo either
• 1:26:12
  outright wins it or keeps it extra close for seven and a
• 1:26:15
  half. I'm going to take it.
• 1:26:18
  Sheldon's riding with us. Tally what you got the half.
• 1:26:21
  Threw me off a little bit. So I went against my better
• 1:26:25
  judgement and picked Boise. But I'm going to pick Boise.
• 1:26:28
  Man, I had already thought about it and said damn, I didn't see
• 1:26:31
  that that that half the hook. Got after you, so we'll see how
• 1:26:37
  it goes. All right, Miranda's.
• 1:26:40
  Riding and Jason's riding with us as well.
• 1:26:43
  Curtis, we all like the underdog.
• 1:26:45
  Cali, A lone man with his Boise bat.
• 1:26:48
  All righty Cali UG. AUGA.
• 1:26:54
  Little bit different energy. This year, man, I'm telling you
• 1:26:57
  it's a little bit different energy Alabama brand new without
• 1:27:00
  Nick Saban on the sidelines. I mean, that's an optimism of
• 1:27:03
  course, because they they look good, but also.
• 1:27:07
  Alabama fans don't. Have that confidence that
• 1:27:09
  they've had with Nick on the sideline.
• 1:27:11
  This is going to be their first big test and I'm going Georgia.
• 1:27:17
  I think Georgia's going to go to Tuscaloosa and Kirby's going to
• 1:27:23
  prove a point. Yep.
• 1:27:27
  Tally, I'm riding with you here. I got Georgia in this one.
• 1:27:33
  I think it's just going to be. One of those games where it's
• 1:27:36
  going to be close, but I think those big game situations are
• 1:27:41
  going to be the difference and Kirby's well versed in those in
• 1:27:46
  the SEC in this type of match up at this point.
• 1:27:48
  So I'm taking the Bulldogs, all right?
• 1:27:53
  So. First of all, both of these
• 1:27:55
  teams are coming off a bye. Yeah, they set it up for them.
• 1:28:00
  Like that I. I can't.
• 1:28:02
  Thank you, SEC. SEC That's how they.
• 1:28:05
  Do it man. Like at least.
• 1:28:07
  It's fair that both are coming off byes, but the last time I
• 1:28:11
  saw Georgia play, I paid attention to that Kentucky game
• 1:28:15
  and. I I.
• 1:28:15
  Know y'all did as well. Kentucky was physical.
• 1:28:20
  They were in the quarterback, they ran the running back, they
• 1:28:23
  slowed the game down. I am going to take.
• 1:28:26
  Alabama here. I'll take two points because I
• 1:28:31
  think Caitlin Dubois is a good enough coach.
• 1:28:33
  I think he knows he's going to he's going to kind of a carbon
• 1:28:36
  copy that Stoops plan. He's going to make it a grind
• 1:28:40
  fest and he's going to say make Carson Beck beat us.
• 1:28:43
  You all know my thoughts. Some people love Carson Beck.
• 1:28:45
  I don't think he's that good of a quarterback.
• 1:28:47
  He proves me wrong in five years in the NFL.
• 1:28:49
  Cool, whatever. It's just something that he's so
• 1:28:52
  highly rated and there's just times he just like against
• 1:28:55
  Kentucky, like if you were an elite quarterback, you saw what
• 1:28:59
  they were doing, figure it out quicker.
• 1:29:00
  He could not figure it out. So give me the points, give me
• 1:29:03
  Bama, everybody else, everybody else riding.
• 1:29:10
  With the the Bulldogs, you're a lone.
• 1:29:13
  Man. Let's go.
• 1:29:16
  All righty. Our wonderful writer.
• 1:29:17
  Miranda, if you have not been checking out our work, go to
• 1:29:21
  boundarypointofbt2.com to see her recaps and her insights on
• 1:29:25
  the game. Got another one dropping
• 1:29:27
  tomorrow. Afternoon.
• 1:29:28
  Yes, it is she. Is going to Waco, TX where the.
• 1:29:34
  Mormons of BYU. Take on Magnolias of Baylor,
• 1:29:38
  right? Is that what that place was?
• 1:29:39
  It was, it was Magnolia, right? That's the thing.
• 1:29:42
  That's the network. It's the same.
• 1:29:44
  Shit, I don't know. My wife watched it.
• 1:29:47
  All the time I had to watch it so it is what it is.
• 1:29:50
  But we got BYU, Baylor, Baylor laying 3 1/2.
• 1:29:54
  I know y'all both texted me and like Are you sure this is the
• 1:29:58
  right line? Like yes Baylor laying 3 1/2.
• 1:30:01
  Brian, what you got? If you told me two.
• 1:30:04
  And a hook I'd have been like, all right.
• 1:30:07
  But the the three no, no, thank you.
• 1:30:10
  Give me, give me BYU here all righty.
• 1:30:13
  I'm going with Baylor because the team honest to God should be
• 1:30:17
  3 and one if y'all didn't see the end of the Colorado game.
• 1:30:21
  Tally saw it. Did you see it, Brian?
• 1:30:22
  Were you up that late? Oh yeah.
• 1:30:25
  What in the hell was? Dave Aranda thinking like
• 1:30:27
  they're at the 50, it's going to have to go down field and you
• 1:30:30
  play like a Cover 2D. In the back of the end.
• 1:30:35
  Zone. Yes, you.
• 1:30:37
  Freaking idiot. He cost them that game.
• 1:30:40
  So I think they bounced back because I think BYU is feeling
• 1:30:43
  themselves after smoke in Kansas State, which I stayed up.
• 1:30:46
  I stayed up late on Saturday night watching that game like
• 1:30:49
  some degenerate, but give me Baylor because I think Baylor is
• 1:30:53
  better than that two and two record.
• 1:30:57
  Sheldon's riding with you. Curtis Tally, what about you?
• 1:31:00
  I'm riding with him too. I got Baylor.
• 1:31:03
  All right, we got Miranda and Jason are riding with me.
• 1:31:07
  Another split skis. There's a split ski right there.
• 1:31:10
  There's a split ski bet. All righty, we got a lot.
• 1:31:13
  Of three and three and a lot of solos this week.
• 1:31:16
  Yeah, let's see what. This last one looks like here as
• 1:31:20
  we as always bring our music man on as he takes a look down
• 1:31:25
  Tobacco Rd. at Carolina and Duke.
• 1:31:38
  In my. Mind, I'm gone, care.
• 1:31:42
  All along, ain't you see? The sunshine.
• 1:31:49
  Ain't you just? Feel the moonshine will hang
• 1:31:55
  like a friend of mine hit me from my hand when I'm gone.
• 1:32:10
  Hey folks, welcome. Back to another week of guitar
• 1:32:12
  licks and gambling picks, I'm Jason Long.
• 1:32:15
  Now, I know there's a big game in Alabama this weekend, but for
• 1:32:18
  my money, the greatest rivalry in sports, regardless of the
• 1:32:22
  competition, is and always will be Duke Carolina.
• 1:32:25
  So I'm headed down to Durham, where the Blue Devils are laying
• 1:32:29
  3 1/2 points against UNC this weekend.
• 1:32:33
  And here's the thing. I am a lifelong supporter of the
• 1:32:39
  Duke Blue Devils. This is a Trajan Langdon jersey,
• 1:32:42
  for crying out loud. So you know who I'm taking.
• 1:32:45
  As the saying goes, go to hell, Carolina.
• 1:33:03
  All right, let's go blue. Devils and let's go Hoagies see
• 1:33:06
  you next week. Jason.
• 1:33:15
  Tally don't like you right now, that's what Jason.
• 1:33:20
  He broke. Out the Trajan Langdon Jersey,
• 1:33:22
  he broke out a Trajan. Langdon Jersey.
• 1:33:26
  Oh, that. Guy was cool man he is.
• 1:33:29
  Cool man. Remember, he's a Titans.
• 1:33:32
  Fan too, so yeah, he's. Just trying to find somebody.
• 1:33:36
  He's just trying to find somewhere to belong, man.
• 1:33:38
  He got to have a win somewhere, right?
• 1:33:40
  That's right. That's somewhere I can say.
• 1:33:42
  Legitimately, what is that? Langdon was, what, late 90s
• 1:33:47
  Duke? Literally, he's had that jersey
• 1:33:49
  since we were like, in middle school.
• 1:33:50
  It's not a lie. It's not a joke.
• 1:33:53
  All right. When, when When Jason started.
• 1:33:55
  Wrestling. He was wearing that jersey.
• 1:33:57
  The middle school, yeah. That old all righty.
• 1:34:01
  So we got Duke, Carolina Duke coming off a win over Middle
• 1:34:05
  Tennessee State and Carolina is a is a freaking basketball game,
• 1:34:10
  losing 70 to 50 to JMU. It's crazy.
• 1:34:13
  Yikes. Crazy.
• 1:34:15
  Brian, what are you doing in this situation?
• 1:34:19
  It's. Duke, Man.
• 1:34:20
  It's got to be Duke. UNC is probably playing their
• 1:34:23
  third string quarterback again. They.
• 1:34:26
  They look like absolute dog shit on defense against JMU.
• 1:34:34
  You know, I think even we could have put 50 on them, so not a
• 1:34:39
  lot. Let's let's ride with the Blue
• 1:34:41
  Devils. In this one.
• 1:34:44
  Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.
• 1:34:46
  Carolina looks atrocious right now so I'll I'll lay 3 1/2
• 1:34:51
  because. Like I think you said, I think.
• 1:34:54
  We could lay 50 on them. Duke plays like 47 on them and
• 1:34:57
  wins about 10. Shelton's going with them.
• 1:35:03
  Shelton's riding with. US could tally what you got
• 1:35:05
  going with the Duke. The Blue Devils man, North
• 1:35:09
  Carolina them Jordan checks done cash buddy and bounced and and
• 1:35:14
  they ain't enough. It's over with it.
• 1:35:18
  Was it was fun. While it lasted, down there
• 1:35:20
  while it lasted. I so they the hell out of
• 1:35:22
  Virginia there you. Go hey, we got.
• 1:35:26
  A We got a queen sweep clean sweep on this.
• 1:35:28
  One, there it is. Oh baby.
• 1:35:31
  Oh man, and there's the. Big board for everybody who who
• 1:35:35
  did good? Who don't you like?
• 1:35:39
  Let us know. We've, we've been a little up
• 1:35:44
  and down. I think I'm like right at 500 on
• 1:35:48
  the year so far. So now here.
• 1:35:51
  Here's the officials. You and Tally are about 60% all
• 1:35:55
  hidden. Three out of five.
• 1:35:57
  I am a literally, I'm a coin flip.
• 1:36:00
  You don't just flip a coin, you do just as good.
• 1:36:03
  The music man, I'm trying to get Jason's exact 712.
• 1:36:08
  Actually, Jason's doing really good because week one we didn't
• 1:36:11
  have him pick every game, so he's been picking how many game
• 1:36:15
  We do what, 5A week, 6 a week, 6 a week, 6 a week, so 6.
• 1:36:20
  He is 11 for 18, which is not too shabby.
• 1:36:24
  That's that's probably right with y'all about that 60% hit.
• 1:36:27
  He's doing a whole lot better than his.
• 1:36:28
  NFL bets. I'll tell you exactly.
• 1:36:30
  Well, we have. The, you know, you, you aren't
• 1:36:32
  involved in that text chain tally.
• 1:36:35
  It's, it's fun to watch Jason's NFL bets burn.
• 1:36:39
  Shelton and Miranda are at 41%. They are our low Ballers.
• 1:36:43
  So real quick, Brian, you have an announcement to make about
• 1:36:47
  May 7th. Yeah, there's a.
• 1:36:50
  There's a little bit of something going on May 7th, I
• 1:36:51
  think you guys have probably already heard of it, but
• 1:36:55
  Metallica will be at Lane Stadium and I will be there, so
• 1:37:01
  let's fucking go so. Did now did you get clean in?
• 1:37:04
  Because there's been so many people you see on the Internet
• 1:37:07
  right now bitching and complaining about.
• 1:37:10
  I was like in there for two hours and I could not buy a
• 1:37:13
  ticket so. I, my, my first run at presale
• 1:37:17
  was not successful, but second run was a little bit better.
• 1:37:22
  So that that's where we are first run.
• 1:37:27
  And I, I don't know if I was because I was doing it on my
• 1:37:29
  phone or, or what the hell. So I'll, I'll say this and this,
• 1:37:33
  this will be something y'all might laugh at, but like, and
• 1:37:35
  then, and I think this is a millennial trait, but there's
• 1:37:40
  certain things that you do on a computer, in a web browser, and
• 1:37:44
  there's certain things you do on a phone.
• 1:37:47
  And apparently buying. Concert tickets and one of those
• 1:37:50
  things you do on a computer at a web browser.
• 1:37:55
  All right, well, there you go. There's.
• 1:37:57
  Bron's bit of advice there, All right, I'm going to look on
• 1:38:00
  Twitter here because we messed up last week, but it's all
• 1:38:04
  right. Anything breaking?
• 1:38:09
  Probably our hearts on. Friday, but nothing right now.
• 1:38:13
  You know the thing. Is 30 years plus 30 years as a
• 1:38:16
  fan Heart's been broken a lot. It's it's going to.
• 1:38:21
  Be it's going to happen and it's.
• 1:38:25
  It's going to happen. Usually more than once.
• 1:38:28
  Because you care about it. That's the piece you care about
• 1:38:31
  it. And you want.
• 1:38:33
  To see again the young men this go up there, you want them to
• 1:38:36
  see good, good. You want to see school good,
• 1:38:37
  good. So that is what it is.
• 1:38:39
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• 1:38:42
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  Some because there's. Different kind of church.
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  Music I'm this is. Some the way you praying, swing
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  low sweet, swing low sweet chariot, some of that kind of
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  stuff. I'm before the KS home.
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  Oh man. Maybe they'll carry some.
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  Find the gospel. Music.
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  Throw it on there Find. Something that let's let's see
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  if we can find basically talent saying pray for, yeah.
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  Exactly when you ride y'all. All right, Jason, y'all saw him
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