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SMNTY Classics: The Last of Us Special, Episode 5 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny, and welcome to stuff I've never
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  Speaker 1: told you producture of iHeart Radio, and yes I am
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  Speaker 1: still by myself. We've got a lot of traveling going on,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm flying solo right now and we are moving
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  Speaker 1: into October, which is one of my favorite times of year.
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  Speaker 1: I love Halloween. I love spooky stuff, creepy stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're into horror movies and stuff like that, so look
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  Speaker 1: for some of that content coming up. And if you
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  Speaker 1: have any suggestions for anything you'd like us to do,
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  Speaker 1: please let us know. But that being said, I thought
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  Speaker 1: I would continue our run of Last of Us Classics
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  Speaker 1: that we did a little mini series when the show
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  Speaker 1: was coming out. After every episode we would kind of
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  Speaker 1: do a discussion, and this episode is one that stands
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  Speaker 1: out to me. This was a really memorable one for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. There were coourse a lot of tears,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of excitement about some of the infected
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  Speaker 1: as they're called. And yes, the trailer for the next
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  Speaker 1: season just came out and I'm looking forward to doing
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  Speaker 1: something like this again.
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  Speaker 2: Because no there are more.
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  Speaker 1: Infected to come listeners, which for me is fun. But
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  Speaker 1: in the meantime, please enjoy this classic episode. Hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is Annie and Samantha and welcome to step I never
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  Speaker 1: told you a production of iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: And we've made it halfway? Can you believe it? Halfway?
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  Speaker 3: Halfway?
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  Speaker 1: Our mini series covering The Last of Us, which again
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  Speaker 1: is not sponsored by HBO Max currently, which is a
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  Speaker 1: real shame shame. But the season this, yeah, because they've
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  Speaker 1: been renewed for a second season, is halfway through. This
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  Speaker 1: is a nine episode thing that we're doing. It's coming
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  Speaker 1: out on Saturdays. It's a special mini series and the
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  Speaker 1: last one probably will be March nineteenth. The season finale
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  Speaker 1: of the show is March twelfth. Anyone who has listened
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  Speaker 1: to this knows it's one of my very favorite things.
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  Speaker 1: So very excited to talk about it as always, and
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  Speaker 1: this was an episode I was very very very excited about. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: apologies to my friend Marissa who sits next to me
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  Speaker 1: during our viewing parties Samantha, because I might have given
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  Speaker 1: some bruises with my excite to on the arm.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, she's a poker, not quite sure, but she starts
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  Speaker 4: to poke when they're excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, sorry Marissa, So as always, uh, this will
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  Speaker 1: contain spoilersher episode five, the most recent episode called Endure
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  Speaker 1: and Survive, and all.
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  Speaker 2: The episodes that came out previously.
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  Speaker 1: I will do my best not to spoil anything else,
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  Speaker 1: and Samantha will be my guide in this as always
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  Speaker 1: as well. Yes, and yeah, we will return to regularly
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  Speaker 1: scheduled programming, probably in March. So yes, content morning before
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  Speaker 1: we get into this discussion of violence, death and suicide.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get into anything too in depth,
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  Speaker 1: but those are going to be topics of conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, very good. Thank Shall we start with the recap?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Samantha, give us our recap.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I got the recap and I'm hoping that we
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  Speaker 4: will be to see them before and after reaction of
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  Speaker 4: any of this episode. Even though she predicted pretty much
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  Speaker 4: everything that would happen and was correct, she was still
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  Speaker 4: fun to watch.
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  Speaker 3: So let's begin and now.
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  Speaker 4: And at the end of episode four, we saw rut Row,
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  Speaker 4: Ellie and Joel being held by gunboint by Sam and Henry. Ooh,
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  Speaker 4: but we start episode five with a flashback when Kansas
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  Speaker 4: City first got I guess the militia took over and
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  Speaker 4: took out Fedra.
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  Speaker 3: You hear people.
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  Speaker 4: Shouting freedom, freedom, free, Free, and then we see bodies
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  Speaker 4: pretty much of all the federal soldiers who had been
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  Speaker 4: rounded at the murdered at this point executed.
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  Speaker 3: We find out.
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  Speaker 4: Kathleen as the leader and has done some things, brings
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  Speaker 4: in the collaborators who have pretty much told on any
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  Speaker 4: of the rebellion rebels, essentially rebel militia teams who I
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  Speaker 4: believe were executed at that point by Federa, and then
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  Speaker 4: she's trying to find Henry. We find out that she's
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  Speaker 4: searching desperately and asking this whole crew of collaborators, who
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  Speaker 4: she shames for giving up people for apples, as she says,
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  Speaker 4: so just food and basic needs.
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  Speaker 3: And after she says.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we will give mercy, just tell us who
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  Speaker 4: where he is all these things, and finally someone says
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  Speaker 4: he's with doctor Edelstein, who we see early in episode
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  Speaker 4: four being executed and being questioned about Henry and Sam,
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  Speaker 4: and she's like, okay, well, good, thank you. She walks out,
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  Speaker 4: and Perry, who we know was the voice of Tommy
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  Speaker 4: in the game, who is her right hand man, comes
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  Speaker 4: out and it was like, oh, what are you doing.
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  Speaker 4: She's like, we got to find him all these things
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  Speaker 4: and then he's like, oh, are we actually gonna let
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  Speaker 4: have a trials what she said? And she's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: b the bodies, and so in episode four we saw
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  Speaker 4: the pile of bodies, and this is what it's alluding to.
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  Speaker 4: So they have execut you did all of the collaborators.
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  Speaker 4: At this point in time, we do see that Henry
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  Speaker 4: and Sam are hiding and they are being actually held
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  Speaker 4: by doctor Edelstein, as it is implied in episode four.
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  Speaker 4: We find out here that Sam is deaf, and so
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  Speaker 4: the way they communicate obviously through sign language. They are
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  Speaker 4: hiding up in this attic essentially with provisions and just waiting,
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  Speaker 4: I guess, for the best time to escape. At this
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  Speaker 4: point in time, we also have a beautiful scene in
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  Speaker 4: which Henry paints over his eyes to make him look
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  Speaker 4: like a superhero, which we have already seen all the
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  Speaker 4: drawings of throughout the attic where they were staying. And
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  Speaker 4: this is what Sam does is he kind of draws
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  Speaker 4: all these superheroes, eluding that he and his brother are
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  Speaker 4: superheroes while they're hiding out doctor Edelstein because they've run
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  Speaker 4: out of food leaves to go give more and he
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  Speaker 4: never comes back. Obviously they're worried. Henry tries to be
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  Speaker 4: a beam. They're like, no, no, no, he'll be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Finally he figures out and just admits, yeah, he's not
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  Speaker 4: coming back.
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  Speaker 3: It's sober.
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  Speaker 4: At this point, we see from their point of view
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  Speaker 4: when Joel and Ellie come crashing through and having the
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  Speaker 4: gun battle, and they're like what's going on, even at
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  Speaker 4: one point thinking that Joel may have seen him, and
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  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, okay, moving on. Then we find them
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  Speaker 4: sneaking and they find the glass. They sneakily go past
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  Speaker 4: that glass because they know they know, and they go
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  Speaker 4: sneak up on Joel and Ellie, who wake up. And
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  Speaker 4: at this point Henry pretty much makes a deal. He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I know you're good. I know you can get us
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  Speaker 4: out of here, you can protect us. So let's make
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  Speaker 4: a deal. I'll tell you how to get out of
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  Speaker 4: here if you'll fight for us. Essentially, and of course
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  Speaker 4: we have Joel or a sad murder dad being very sarcastic,
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  Speaker 4: like cool cool. Henry's like I don't like the way
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  Speaker 4: that sounded. Ellie's trying to be like, hey, it's fine.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine. He's just a jerk. He's just doesn't ask
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  Speaker 3: all these things. She's like, man, come on.
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  Speaker 4: They do end up going traveling together and they talk
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  Speaker 4: about He talks about he's never murdered anybody.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't even have.
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  Speaker 4: Bullets in the gun, which apparently some people have looked
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  Speaker 4: at that scene and said that he does.
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  Speaker 3: He just didn't have it in the chamber at that
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  Speaker 3: point in time.
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  Speaker 5: What.
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  Speaker 4: So they come upon an agreement. Joel gives them food.
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  Speaker 4: Joel and Ellie give them food, and they're like, where'd
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  Speaker 4: you get this? And he's like, our friend who's dead,
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  Speaker 4: talking about Bill sad times. And then they move on
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  Speaker 4: and they talk about the fact that they can go
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  Speaker 4: under the tunnels or underground because that is empty because
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  Speaker 4: it's been rumored that Feder put all of the clickers
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  Speaker 4: and the bloaters, which they actually reference clickers in this episode.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, look at that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually called them a clicker, that they've been
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  Speaker 4: all pushed underground and therefore it's empty, and Henry knows
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  Speaker 4: how to get out.
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  Speaker 3: All cool, all cool.
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  Speaker 4: So they make their way down Snicolie. They're sneaking, sneaking, sneaking,
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  Speaker 4: and they come upon what looks like a classroom, which
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  Speaker 4: is an underground bunk where they apparently kept a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the classrooms and such. Then we see a reference
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  Speaker 4: to Ish and Annie. I know you'll come back to
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  Speaker 4: that later. That is not necessarily important, but a good
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  Speaker 4: Easter egg. We also see that there's a mention of
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  Speaker 4: children and what happened to the children, and it.
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  Speaker 3: Is not cute.
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  Speaker 4: It's very very sad, and we'll talk about that later,
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  Speaker 4: but the implication is obvious. But here we see Ellie
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  Speaker 4: and Sam getting along. They already started getting along previously,
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  Speaker 4: to the point that Henry is like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: been a long time since I've seen him happy, like
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  Speaker 4: he's Sam having fun and then.
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  Speaker 3: Getting along so well.
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  Speaker 4: They play a little soccer and Ellie's able to convince them, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we should stay here for the night.
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  Speaker 3: Might as well so.
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  Speaker 4: They get to see what we will see here as
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  Speaker 4: well as when you see it in the game comic
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  Speaker 4: that both Sam and.
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  Speaker 3: Ellie really love.
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  Speaker 4: They talk about it the words endure and survive as
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  Speaker 4: part of the motto or I guess the tagline to
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  Speaker 4: these comics as in fact, we have glasses because and
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  Speaker 4: he bought glasses for us. That says endear and survive
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  Speaker 4: real talk. I didn't realize that's.
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  Speaker 3: Where it's from. Well, yeah, haven't play video games. This
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  Speaker 3: is you know anyway. And so at this point, you know.
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  Speaker 4: They're talking about what happened, and Henry talked about the
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  Speaker 4: fact that Sam had leukemia and the only way to
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  Speaker 4: get the good drugs to help him was by ratting
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  Speaker 4: on Kathleen's brother, who gets murdered and gets caught. So
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  Speaker 4: he did actually rat on the brother, and we find
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  Speaker 4: in a conversation where Kathleen is reminiscing in her bedroom,
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  Speaker 4: old bedroom about how good her brother was and kind
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  Speaker 4: and caring and that you know, she isn't she's not nice,
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  Speaker 4: she's not good.
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  Speaker 3: She she is she.
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  Speaker 4: Knows who she is, and she is bad, she says,
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  Speaker 4: and she's tests Perry, don't try to convince me to
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  Speaker 4: forgive My brother did that and look what it got him.
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  Speaker 4: He's dead. So what's the matter? I need the bees essentially,
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, you know what, you're the one who
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  Speaker 4: got us out. You're the one who freed us, and
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  Speaker 4: we will always follow you cap things like good. And
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: so we move on where they're hunting them down, trying
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  Speaker 4: to find Henry and Sam. Henry and Sam, Joel and
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  Speaker 4: Ellie are all getting along nicely, and they decide, okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's time to sneak out.
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  Speaker 3: It's time to go.
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  Speaker 4: So there's a back way, I believe, like through a tunnel,
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  Speaker 4: all these things, and he has his plans as are sneaking.
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  Speaker 4: Ellie's like, you know what, why don't you come with
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  Speaker 4: us to Wyoming. There's plenty of any and Joel's like,
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  Speaker 4: what the hell, And then she's like, come on, Wyoming's big.
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  Speaker 3: I can go wherever.
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  Speaker 4: And then she's like, don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: I could talk him into it.
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  Speaker 4: You know how I beg and I won't stop.
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  Speaker 3: Then I will. You know. That was the point and
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  Speaker 3: then oh no, shots ring out, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: So they all have to scurry and we realize there
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  Speaker 4: is a sharpshooter in the bell tower in the tower
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  Speaker 4: the castle thing, so and we hear him shooting and
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  Speaker 4: he misses, and they're like, oh my god, he's such.
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  Speaker 2: A bad shot.
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  Speaker 4: And so of course Joel does his thing we just
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  Speaker 4: reminiscent to the game, and goes and sneaks up on
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  Speaker 4: the dude and finds him in the tower, and he
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  Speaker 4: gives him an option and be like, man, give me
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  Speaker 4: the gun. Just give me the gun and give it
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  Speaker 4: us an hour. Just give us an hour before you Nope,
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  Speaker 4: he tries to shoot him, so Joel has to take
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  Speaker 4: him out, and the next thing we hear is on
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  Speaker 4: the radio Kathleen saying.
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  Speaker 3: Hold them there, hold them there, rot.
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  Speaker 4: Row, and we hear cars coming at the same time
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  Speaker 4: Joel's screaming run and everybody's super confused, and then they're allize,
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: oh no, here comes a giant truck again like the game,
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  Speaker 4: running over trucks to get to Henry and Sam and Ellie.
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  Speaker 4: They go hide behind a car. They all come out.
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  Speaker 4: Kathleen's like, come on out, it's time. Oh bt dubs.
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  Speaker 4: Joel does shoot the driver of the big truck that
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: runs over things, which causes it to crash into a
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  Speaker 4: building and catches on fire, and so at this point
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  Speaker 4: we see that Henry is considering coming out.
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  Speaker 3: He does come out and be like, hey, hey, I got it.
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  Speaker 3: They're kids.
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  Speaker 4: I had to do what I had to do save
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  Speaker 4: the kids, and she's like, nope, they're a part this too,
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  Speaker 4: And then this whole speech about destiny and who's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to die and that children die, and that's just what happens,
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  Speaker 4: very cold, very calculated, very cruel, all of these conversations
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  Speaker 4: and the fact that one life is not worth everything else,
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  Speaker 4: although she's doing the same thing by saying that her
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  Speaker 4: brother was worth more than these kids, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of conversations than that. And then all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, we hear as she's about to pull
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  Speaker 4: the gun, pull the trigger and trying to kill Henry.
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  Speaker 4: We hear a noise from where that crash happened as
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  Speaker 4: the car.
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  Speaker 3: Falls into a hole, and no joyant think of.
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  Speaker 4: Clickers, and the bloater comes out and attacks everyone. So
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  Speaker 4: you hear chaos and screaming and clickers and all the
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  Speaker 4: cookers and then this bloater who just picks up a
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  Speaker 4: man and slams them down. That's the first thing we see,
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  Speaker 4: and that bloaters ugly. As this happens, Henry and Sam
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  Speaker 4: trying to escape one way, and Ellie goes into a
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  Speaker 4: car followed by a child clicker, which is ironic because
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  Speaker 4: that's what we talked about, right, uh, But then we
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  Speaker 4: see Joel shooting them down.
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  Speaker 3: As we see in the game. That's kind of the
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  Speaker 3: part of the game.
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  Speaker 4: You have to shoot the clickers to save Ellie, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: And as that goes.
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  Speaker 4: Down, she runs away and oh, she's going with Henry
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  Speaker 4: and Sam, and Kathin catches up with him and she's
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  Speaker 4: about to kill them when she gets killed by a
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  Speaker 4: child clicker herself.
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  Speaker 3: Oh dear.
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  Speaker 4: They finally make it to a house and it's quiet,
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  Speaker 4: and you see Henry and Joel in one room and
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  Speaker 4: Ellie and Sam in another room. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: they're communicating with an etch a sketch type of thing
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  Speaker 4: like the cheaper version. Sam writes to Ellie and Ellie
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  Speaker 4: writes back or talks back, and that's how they communicate.
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  Speaker 4: Here we see Joel relent and say, yes, you should
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  Speaker 4: come with us to Wyoming. I didn't mean to judge
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  Speaker 4: you as a collaborator. I know you have to do
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  Speaker 4: what you have to do, which he did judge him
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  Speaker 4: a little bit because Joel is Joel said, murdered dad.
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  Speaker 4: And then we find ot as Ellie is talking to Sam.
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  Speaker 4: Sam says, what do you think there's still people when
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  Speaker 4: they become these clickers? You know, do you they still
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  Speaker 4: know and all these things or are they just monsters?
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  Speaker 4: And she says, you know, I believe, I believe, you know, they.
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  Speaker 3: Do all these things. It was really sad.
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  Speaker 4: And then he asks her her biggest severe and she's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, scorpions and I don't want to die alone
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: or no being alone.
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  Speaker 3: And then we see a moment and he shows her
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  Speaker 3: his leg.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Oh no, he's bit and she thinks that. She's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, my blood's secured. That's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 4: So she cuts herself, rubs on the blood. She's like,
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  Speaker 4: I'll stay with you, wake all night.
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  Speaker 5: Robe.
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  Speaker 3: Well, cut to the.
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  Speaker 4: Morning, she's like Sam and yeah, Sam attacks her because
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  Speaker 4: he's become a zombie and he's about to cry. And
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: as he attacks her, they bust out the room, but
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  Speaker 4: Henry realizes what was happening grabs the gun away from Joel.
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  Speaker 4: Joel tries to stop, but Henry shoots at him to
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  Speaker 4: stop him. And Henry, you could tell, it's confused and
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  Speaker 4: upset and doesn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 3: And then he shoots Sam.
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  Speaker 4: In the head and as he sits there, he is
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  Speaker 4: in shock and he's like, what did I do?
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: What did I do?
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  Speaker 4: Shoots himself because he's in too much pain, and the
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: next thing we see is Joel burying the two and
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  Speaker 4: Ellie trying to act tough even though Joel's trying to
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  Speaker 4: kind of kind of be sympathetic. You could tell he
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: wants to be the fatherly, comforting guy. But she's done,
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  Speaker 4: she's done. She puts down the pat and says, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: and she says, how do we go west?
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  Speaker 6: End of story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough one.
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  Speaker 3: It's a hard one.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've loved how many people have just texted me
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  Speaker 1: randomly about it, like why crying emoji's Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 4: I believe the spoiler that we've given is none of
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  Speaker 4: them are happy. Now you might have like little moments
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: of happiness just like they do, but in actuality, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: whole thing is traumatic, tragic and sad and scary.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Indeed so fun, so fun.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, there is a lot to cover in this one,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: so let's jump right in.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: First. I did want to mention as you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Were doing the excellent recap as always, and you did
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: excellent impression. But Ellie calls it his ass voice when
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: he's kind of like not helping out with Henry and Sam,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and she's trying to really bridge the gap between them,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: which I thought was funny. You do see the progression
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of the sad murdered dad trope, which again Joel is like, excellent,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Like if you look it up in a dictionary. You
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: have a moment where Henry thinks Ellie is Joel's daughter
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and they both say at the same time like.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Nope, because he goes like, you're dead, cynical, not my dad.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, And we will talk more about that in a minute,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: because I do feel like me and one of my
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: good friends who loves this game and have played it
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: many times, Katie, who comes to a lot of the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: watch parties as well, we were talking about it and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: how when you watch like the post credits, like when
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the creators are talking about it, it feels so heavy
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: handed when you like know what happens, right, But I'm
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: sure like if you don't know, it doesn't feel that way.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: But when you're like, why would you say that everyone? Well, no,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about that in a second. I did want
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to talk.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: About the bloater, which I saw a while I know
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I saw trending on Twitter the little emoji bloat.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: As an emoji. Yeah, oh I didn't know that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's one of those special ones they
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: do for like promotional Oh yeah, but Jude, I don't
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: think it's like when I could get on my phone,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: which is unfortunate.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: But the Bloater is really cool. I was watching how
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: they like made it happen.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: It's like this really tall stunt person and like eighty
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: pounds of prosthetics.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: But the Bloater.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: So if you have the timeline of zombies, basically you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: have you Runner, and then you have Clicker, and then
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: you have a bloater. So a Bloater's been around for
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: a long time and they can they joked about it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: in episode two. They can shoot out these like acid bombs,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: acid spore bombs to infect you and very very deadly.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: In the game, you meet them when you're with Bill.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: That's the first time you meet them. But I like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that they put it here. It felt like I saw
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of reviews and headlines that were like if
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: if people keep calling it a quote prestige drama, which
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about, but if.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: A prestige drama had like a Boss.
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: Battle prestige trauma, Yeah, I know, but it was I mean,
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: it was like the all of the clickers coming up
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: all of the runners coming up and then you hear
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: that like croaking sound of the bloater emerging from like
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: hill because there's like smoke and red light and everythingwhere who.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: And he rips off Perry's rad he does, he his
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: head off.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Perry, Yeah, he comes hard to beat.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He is difficult to beat. But that was cool and uh,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Craig mice Amazon, the creator showrunner of it, said he
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: wanted one example at least because there haven't been that
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: many zombies, as we've discussed in the show.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Of like how did humanity lose? And this was just
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: such a like overwhelming force coming from the ground and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: just running, running all the humans down and then the
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: humans become Yes. Yes, the child clicker was a nice
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: touch that was not in the game.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: The sniper scene is in the game also, when you
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: see Ellie she runs over to try to help Henry
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and Sam, and she brings out her knife and stabs
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the clicker in the neck. That's a big moment in
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the game because you do play as her, and I'm
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: going to talk about that more or later, not in
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this episode, but later. And one of her big differences
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: she has with Joel because she doesn't have like the
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: physical prowess. Obviously, she doesn't have that many weapons, but
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: she has this knife and she's small and she's much
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: more stealthy, so she can kill a clicker, whereas Joel
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: can't always because he needs a shive.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: You have to make a shive or find a shive.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But she always has the knife, so she can if
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you're sneaky enough, she can take down the clicker. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that was cool to see. Ish was definitely a really
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: fun Easter Egg. It's a tragic story. It's one of
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: those things where in the game, again, you could mostly
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: miss it. You have to go through that area, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: it's a lot You find out a lot of the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: story and what went wrong through notes, so you can
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: miss a lot of that. But basically is was this
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: guy who retreated into the Sewers after the outbreak happened,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and he tried to He was really about like saving
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: people in a way that a lot of people like
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Joel weren't where he made it kind of as like
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: if I can find people and I can like make
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: this community and we can have it here and can
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: be safe.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And he had all these rules and they had all
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: these kids and.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Basically, somebody didn't follow the rules and let in somebody
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was infected, and then that got everybody in there, and.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: It's really sad when you go through when you're reading
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the notes and you go into the like kidergarten room.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, oh my god. But it was cool
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that they included it. That was definitely something.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I just got random texts that night that were just ish, yes, yes,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And I love how many people are playing the game
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: now and they will get to their first bloater and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: they'll just I'll get like live messaging about fighting it
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, yes, I love this.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: This is so good, as you said.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: And Duran Survive is a comic book series that Ellie
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: really loves, and it is one of those few, well,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they become fewer and fewer things of kind of her
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like youth and innocence and curiosity that show like, oh,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: she's still really young in this world and she so
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in the game. It's sort of a thing where you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: can try to find them for her as playing Joel,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and so she'll be happy and read them, which is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: is really cool. I think one of the big things
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing in this episode that they didn't show
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: as early in the game as they're showing now is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Ellie's survivor's guilt of being someone who survived the bite
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and really wanting to help other people. Yeah, because that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was really heartbreaking, her trying to cure Sam after he'd
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: been bitten and then feeling that gelt and like writing,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry leaving it there right, but that that is
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like a very big part of her story. And I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: think they are showing it a lot earlier, more viscerally
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and earlier than they did in the game, And that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that conversation, it was very well done with the asl
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and the kind of etch and sketch thing. That conversation
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: in the game is like burned in my brain. When
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: they have the you don't know Sam's infected yet, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he's asking like, what's your biggest fear and she says, yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm scared of ending up alone. And then they could
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: talk about like whether or not they believe in God,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and they talk about souls and whether or not zombies.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, souls are still in there. So that's a whole
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: thing that I would keep in the old brain.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: That gives us one way to say it. Yeah, keep
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: it in that brain.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Keep it in the old brain. Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And then obviously the story of Henry and Sam was
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like the key piece of this, and it was one
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: like people.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Who knew we were like, oh no, what are they
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: gonna do?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Are they gonna handle it in the game? Uh, Sam
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is not deaf? So I thought that was cool. And
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I liked the behind the scenes of how they kind
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: of learned ASL and with the ASL trainer on sets
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that was really cool. There was like Kathleen's kind of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: ableism around Sam basically I guess deserving to die after
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: he got his leukemia diagnosis or not more saving I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: guess that's a better way of saying it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But they are supposed to be sort of the.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Mirror of Ellie and Joel, these other two people where
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you've got kind of the protector and the kid trying to.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Make their way in this world.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: In the game, they're trying to get to the Firefly place,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: just like you are, and Joel's always like, uh fireflies.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Henry's like, well, how are you going?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But it was a moment where you get to see
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: this bonding of Sam and Ellie, of seeing this kind
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: of childlike innocence. This is also something you can actually
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: miss in the game. There's a lot of really small
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: moments you can have of like them playing darts together,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: sharing like blueberries together, that you can miss, but they
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: definitely put that in the in the game. And also,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: as we discussed in the last one, you do see
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: this cycle of violence of Kathleen's brother dying and then
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: her killing all these people to find Henry, who turned
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: in Kathleen's brother to save Sam, and just that the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: cycle of that and the conversation that Henry and Joel
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: have together where Henry's like, I'm the bad guy, right,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I did a bad guy thing. I turned this guy
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and who he respected and really like admired in Joel
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: kind of being like notably silent until later.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: He's also a little bit judgmental, Like it's weirdly like
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: hypocritical of him being judgmental, but he does because he's like, well,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: he also doesn't like Federa in himself, but.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Right, right, I think Joel's just so closed off about
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like people in general, that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: He's got all these walls.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: And is not going to listen, doesn't want to be
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: around anybody. I think one of the reasons he changed
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that why he finally invited Henry and Sam to go
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: with him. At the end, it is because he saw
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Henry protect Ellie, because Ellie was in trouble and Henry
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: kind of came in to save her when Joel was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of sniping from above, and I think at that moment
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, okay, he could be useful and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: he helped protect her, and I think the part of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: him was like, it is nice that she has somebody
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: she can talk to that's her own ish age. But
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: then like this is the O when you get to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Sam being infected and Henry taking his own life after
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: killing him, that's kind of the like we're seeing Henry
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: being willing to do anything to protect Sam, and then
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what happens when that's gone, Like his whole purpose was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that what happens when that's gone?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And he was the one that had to kill him, right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And that's it was just such a heartbreaking, heartbreaking scene
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and it is so at the end when the creators
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: were talking about it, and they were talking they said, like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you know how many people you sacrifice for the one
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you love?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: What are these choices that you make?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And Reigniz said, these are decisions that love makes that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: rationality and and look what happens when you choose vengeance.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Which is a theme over and over again in these games.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, and kind of her Kathleen having this
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: whole speech like, you know, you think your whole world
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: revolves around this one kid, that's what happens when you
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: with fate. And then and then what happens exactly the.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Consequences children kill you because.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: She knew, she ignored that there was this like sinkhole
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: where they knew there were infected, and she ignored it
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: because she wanted vengeance. More right, these were the consequences
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of choosing that. And then yes, the child clicker gets
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: her in the end, but that is a recurring theme
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: in this and it was interesting, like her whole speech
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: about forgiveness, like where's the justice in that? Where what
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was the point in that? Because she says her brother
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: would have wanted her to.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Forgive He told her to forgive them Henry, Yes, that
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: was his last dying wish.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And she didn't do it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: And that kind of goes back to the point I
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: made that I'm definitely going to talk about in the
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: last episode, but in the previous one, where you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: when you're kind of the things you do in the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: name of love that are really pretty selfish. And that's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: like we've talked about this a million times. Forgiveness is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: hard and it's personal. I get it, but this is
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: like she was going to kill those kids. It's going
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to kill those kids. No, And one thing I wanted
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to touch on that makes these games so painful. So
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you see the scene of Ellie trying to save Henry
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: and Sam from the clickers and then trying to save
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Sam from the bite to be she wanted to be
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like a savior or a hero and then you lose anyway.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That happens a lot of the game, so where you'll
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: like literally spend hours trying to save somebody and then
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they die anyway, and it is it's like incredibly painful.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But though this is like one of the key moments
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I think in her character.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: And also on the flip side, Joel.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Is beginning to understand that he does somehow Ellie has
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: worn him down with her questions and her persistence and
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: her puns, and he's realizing, like when he's looking at
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the grave of Henry and Sam, like what would have
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: he thinks that that would be them and it will
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: ruin him if he loses her. So that's a pretty
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: big turning point in their relationship.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: My own mind, I.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Did want to go over some things really quickly that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: have just been happening, because again, we don't really research
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: these so much as just we watched them together and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I see headlines and I get text about them, emails
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: about them sometimes. I did see the actress who plays
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Kathleen talk about body shaming she has received for not
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: being super sin.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I suppose what she has had to.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Deal with for a while now her Emmy Award winning acting.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I believe she want an Emmy for.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: A Yellowjacket, which, by the way, is really good if
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: you haven't watched it. And they started in on her
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: at the very beginning, and her continually having to to
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: justify why she's fine with her body, which is hilariously.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Sad.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I know that's the oxymoron, but it's just so tiresome.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, once again she's getting body shaming.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: And I believe it was by an influencer or someone famous,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: someone famous criticized heart. I can't remember who it was,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: and it was unnecessary. There's no there's no reason to
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: point out any other thing outside of their acting. She
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: was in a damn jacket in a freezing cold weather.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: What the hell right?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no need, no need at all. I did like that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: The actor who plays Perry Slash, Tommy's voice actor came
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: out and spoke like in camaraderie with her, likely you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: stop it?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: What's the reason?
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Right? Right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: And then I saw Bella Ramsey just sort of released
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a statement about the backlash some of the queer storylines
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have gotten, and basically she was like, get over it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Good on her.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and this happens when the game came out
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: as well. People are really a certain sect of gamers.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: We're really really mad about it. And I know we
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: talked about it in our I think our Ellie episode.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: We did because Ashley Johnson, who plays Ellie, said, you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: people have come up to her and been like, I'm
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: so glad these games exist because I don't see that
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: very often, these kind of queer storylines very often.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm sure we'll have more to say about that soon.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: We're speaking of and my my vague up next, which.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: You can go stop now if you don't want any spoilers,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: if you're that person who doesn't like the previews coming
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: up stat Yes.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, because this it's nothing more you'll than you'll get
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: in the trailer.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: But if you are like somebody who just like not
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: even the.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Trailer understand friends like that, I do too.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I do too.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Number one, we're gonna get the dramatic reunion with Tommy finally, finally,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. There's gonna be a big come to Jesus moment,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and I won't say any more about it, but there
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: will be a big one.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And there will also be a pretty big cliffinger.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I think I care, but I'm pretty sure it's gonna
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: be a cliffinger.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: So, and I need to know from the listeners who
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: actually watched on Friday and who waited till Sunday.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who was like, screw that football game?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: It was me.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I watched it again.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I know you did. You had an old plan.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I did, and it was wonderful and glorious.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Also, we went to a work function and I took
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the pun book and.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I was kind of dressed like Ellie and you just.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Were dressed like Ellie. What do you mean?
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't have that, you didn't have a backpackka.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: There was more I could have done, but I was
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: definitely reading people puns. And my favorite was our friend
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and coworker Alex kept coming up to me randomly and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: was like, give me another one, and then he wouldn't
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: laugh at all.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: He would just walk.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Away after Well, at one point he did come back
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: and say, Okay, that was a bad one.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: We do, Yes, he did, which is how the game is.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: That's exactly how it works in the game. Yes, well,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'm very very excited. It's gonna be good. I can't wait.
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