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Not So Fast Episode 9 · Not So Fast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Patz.
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  Speaker 2: Not so fast, my friends.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps. Paul,
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  Speaker 3: we got game number two in the books. What'd you
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  Speaker 3: think of football down under? You know, it was so sunny.
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  Speaker 4: That game, I think it kicked off at 1030 in
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  Speaker 4: the morning, Melbourne time. The uniforms popped. It looks so awesome.
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  Speaker 4: The field on Netflix. The uniforms really, really popped. Is
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  Speaker 4: it that sunny there?
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  Speaker 3: I guess so.
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  Speaker 5: Dan Patrick said he was down there.
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  Speaker 3: And sunscreen is a major issue in Australia, apparently.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, if I asked you right before kickoff, The game's
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  Speaker 4: going to finish 27-7. You'd said what?
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  Speaker 3: I would have said, wow, what a game for Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that Rams defense. Story of the year. But
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  Speaker 3: what happened?
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  Speaker 4: How would you describe this game for those who.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So it started out pretty even. And then at
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  Speaker 3: a certain point, the Rams gave up. Gave up?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: At a certain point, you said enough travel talk. But
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  Speaker 3: to me, that is actually the story of the game.
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  Speaker 3: The Rams did not look ready to play. They came
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  Speaker 3: to Australia too late.
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  Speaker 4: It did feel like there's a point in the third
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  Speaker 4: quarter where Matthew Stafford goes for a quarterback sneak at
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  Speaker 4: the goal line, which they don't do that a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's had one QB sneak touchdown in his
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  Speaker 4: Rams career. They didn't make it. The review couldn't tell anything.
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  Speaker 4: It was just a big pile. And then the 49ers
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  Speaker 4: went on a 99-yard touchdown run, not a drive, and
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  Speaker 4: it felt like The Rams said, okay, it's time to
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  Speaker 4: start heading back home. This was almost a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of thought that was a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure how. Well, I guess the ball was, oh,
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  Speaker 4: that looks like a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: But when Stafford doesn't get in here, the air went
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  Speaker 4: out of their balloon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The funny thing is, I actually think it probably
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  Speaker 3: was a touchdown. They just couldn't prove it. So whatever
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  Speaker 3: they called on the field was going to stick. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I could see a little thought bubble off of Matthew Stafford.
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  Speaker 3: After that play, he came back and said, well, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to order the chicken on the plane back, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to watch Project Hail Mary. It's going to
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  Speaker 3: be really fun. Yeah. They checked out completely. And normally
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  Speaker 3: I would rip a team if I thought they gave up.
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  Speaker 3: But going to Australia had, I think, a big toll
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  Speaker 3: on this Rams team.
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  Speaker 5: They're not young.
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  Speaker 3: Again, it's a cliche to talk about the travel science,
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  Speaker 3: but the Niners had it right and the Rams had
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  Speaker 3: it wrong.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's weird, though, because if somehow the Rams
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  Speaker 4: did win this, is there a reason to worry about
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  Speaker 4: the Rams? I don't worry after week one. And I
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  Speaker 4: think Vegas still has them as a favorite. So you
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  Speaker 4: don't worry either. I think you might worry about Miles Garrett.
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  Speaker 4: Was he not in shape or is he injured in
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  Speaker 4: some fashion? That would be a concern.
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  Speaker 3: That's a concern.
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  Speaker 4: That's a concern. But the general offense doesn't concern me
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  Speaker 4: because Puka's Puka. Their running back tandem is really good.
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  Speaker 4: But let's go to the other side of this, the 49ers.
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  Speaker 4: Have we been sleeping a little bit on the 49ers
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  Speaker 4: because of their struggles with health and things in the offseason,
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  Speaker 4: previous seasons?
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  Speaker 5: I think I've been sleeping on the 49ers.
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  Speaker 3: I had no idea that Fred Warner was going to
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  Speaker 3: be Fred Warner and Nick Bosa was going to be explosive.
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  Speaker 5: Kittle wasn't quite as good as the other guys.
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  Speaker 4: But he was present.
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  Speaker 3: But he was present. Debo Samuel looked thin and ready
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  Speaker 3: to go. It was the fountain of youth. CMC looked great.
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  Speaker 3: And then Christian McCaffrey had some help in the backfield.
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  Speaker 3: Everything worked perfectly.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Nick Bosa. People don't talk about him as
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  Speaker 4: much as they used to when he was Defensive Player
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  Speaker 4: of the Year. He was all over Stafford the entire game.
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  Speaker 4: And then if you look at what they did on offense,
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  Speaker 4: they split carries. Kalen Black, the rookie out of Indiana,
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  Speaker 4: he had as many touches as Christian McCaffrey. And that's
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  Speaker 4: one of those things that... Maybe that's smart for the future.
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  Speaker 4: Let's balance these guys out. Keep McCaffrey healthy in January, February.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and quarterback Brock Purdy looked good, was running around.
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  Speaker 3: You know who, to me, the MVP of the game,
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to give out stickers later, Paul?
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  Speaker 4: We're saving stickers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll just say Kyle Shanahan outcoached the Rams pretty
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  Speaker 3: decisively here. You can see on the Niners' opening drive,
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  Speaker 3: they went 15 plays, kept the ball away from Matthew
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  Speaker 3: Stafford and the Rams.
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  Speaker 5: The rhythm went to the Niners. Brilliant plan.
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  Speaker 3: I think Shanahan has had months to think about this game,
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  Speaker 3: and he was ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but if you're a 49ers fan, do you feel
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  Speaker 4: great today? Do you feel long-term great or short-term great?
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  Speaker 3: You feel great. Yes, there's always the injury risk. You
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of players over 30, but you don't
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  Speaker 3: think about that at all today. You get to kick back,
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  Speaker 3: watch football this weekend, and you're 1-0.
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  Speaker 4: And the other thing is, when you're watching the running
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  Speaker 4: backs from the Niners just chop through the line, you're thinking...
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  Speaker 4: Aaron Donald's at home right now, sitting there watching this game,
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  Speaker 4: and he could be stuffing this whole thing up.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. If you are a Niners fan, also, you have
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  Speaker 3: the Cardinals and the Dolphins coming up next.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: probably 3-0 and probably come out of that healthy. And remember,
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  Speaker 3: they were just in the Super Bowl a few years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe this is Shanahan's chance to finally get the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Last thing I love about Brock Purdy, three touchdowns for
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  Speaker 4: Brock Purdy, really great second half. He likes to run
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  Speaker 4: the ball. He's got a little giddy up, as they
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  Speaker 4: like to say in college football, but he never, almost never,
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  Speaker 4: I'd say not never, but this time of year in September,
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't take on contact.
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  Speaker 5: No, he gets out of bounds, and he slides. He
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  Speaker 5: looked really spry.
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  Speaker 3: They've been talking about him in camp all summer, how
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  Speaker 3: this was his best training camp he's had in a
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  Speaker 3: long time, and he completely delivered.
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  Speaker 4: And Matthew Stafford, he doesn't run. He barely walks.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. To me, that actually— and let's transition to
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  Speaker 3: the Rams here for a second.
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  Speaker 5: Stafford struggles. Really shocked me.
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  Speaker 4: But that's a short-term, long-term concern.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, still, he's been held under 10 points
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  Speaker 3: twice in 85 starts. He looked hurried. He looked inaccurate.
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  Speaker 3: He either overthrew guys or underthrew them. The interception was concerning.
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  Speaker 5: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: He's getting older. I saw the age last night, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: No shocker.
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  Speaker 5: He was on a plane for 18 hours. You don't
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  Speaker 5: put an old guy on a plane like that, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: You know that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, my grandfather told me, don't put an old guy
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  Speaker 4: on a plane to Melbourne to play football. We always
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  Speaker 4: know that. All right, let's get to some NSF news.
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  Speaker 4: helmet stickers. We put the sticker on the helmet. The
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  Speaker 4: player chooses whether to wear it next week or not.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to go first, Perloff, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: go offensive tackle Trent Williams. Trent Williams yesterday, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: say ate up Myles Garrett, but he made Myles Garrett
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  Speaker 4: irrelevant for a game. And that doesn't happen very often.
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  Speaker 4: Myles Garrett always gets one or two or three hits
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  Speaker 4: on a quarterback at the very minimum. But Trent Williams
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  Speaker 4: reminded everybody that I'm the best offensive lineman in the
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  Speaker 4: game and the best pass blocker in the past 15 years.
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  Speaker 4: And even Miles Garrett can't get by me. So he
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  Speaker 4: gets my helmet sticker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like he's not aging. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: not so fast you. How is that possible? Trent Williams
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  Speaker 3: got all this love last night. Guess who helped him
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  Speaker 3: a lot?
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  Speaker 5: Two men.
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  Speaker 3: Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan. Purdy got rid of the
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  Speaker 3: ball immediately, every time.
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  Speaker 4: Are you saying it's system blocking?
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  Speaker 5: It was totally, he wasn't holding onto the ball.
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  Speaker 3: He had to block Bosa or whoever for, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: he had to block Myles Garrett for one second.
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  Speaker 5: He's pretty got rid of the ball so fast. And
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  Speaker 5: that was all Shanahan.
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  Speaker 3: Shanahan neutralized Myles Garrett on his own. Now Garrett was
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  Speaker 3: still moving pretty fast. I know there's concerns about his health.
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  Speaker 3: But he finally got to Purdy, and Purdy had already
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  Speaker 3: gotten rid of the ball every time.
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  Speaker 4: Who's your helmet sticker for?
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  Speaker 3: That's got to be Kyle Shanahan. You know, listen, Sean
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  Speaker 3: McVay is on 60 Minutes this weekend. He's getting all
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  Speaker 3: the hype.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of considered the best coach in football. I
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  Speaker 3: think Kyle Shanahan said, not so fast.
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  Speaker 4: That hat is very becoming, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, you couldn't see the injury from
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  Speaker 3: the car crash this summer. I thought Kyle Shanahan had
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  Speaker 3: his team ready to play. He won the battle of
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  Speaker 3: which is the approach to international travel. His game plan
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  Speaker 3: was brilliant. You did not know it was coming. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of short passes to keep the Rams off balance.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a huge Kyle Shanahan play caller fan. Can he
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  Speaker 3: win the big game? That's TBD. But in a game
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  Speaker 3: like this, you saw his brilliance at work.
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  Speaker 4: Can I give a bonus helmet sticker to Netflix's new analyst,
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  Speaker 4: Luke Kuechly?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Big stage.
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  Speaker 4: He worked his way out, and he had some really
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  Speaker 4: good stories, some really good fun stuff. He had a
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  Speaker 4: story about Trent Williams. Luke Kuechly said, I went up
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  Speaker 4: against Trent Williams, and he pushed me into the sidelines
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  Speaker 4: like I was a small child. And I thought it was–
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  Speaker 4: Luke Kuechly had a nice night. I'm going to give
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  Speaker 4: him a bonus helmet sticker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kuechly was great.
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  Speaker 5: The whole Netflix thing, did you watch the Jonas Brothers
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  Speaker 5: at halftime?
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 4: That's an insult to ask me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a good job. I'm so glad football's back.
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  Speaker 4: All right, some bad news, though.
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  Speaker 3: A.J.
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  Speaker 4: Brown, the wide receiver, the new wide receiver, the Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: he has a high ankle sprain, which is never good.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why it's worse than low ankle sprain.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing. Out four weeks, and when you're 0-1–
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  Speaker 4: and the Patriots have Steelers, Jaguars, Bills over the next
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  Speaker 4: three weeks, that could be a problem math-wise. Now, they
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  Speaker 4: still have a good team, very good defense. Drake May
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  Speaker 4: is there. But if you somehow go 1-3 or, God forbid, 0-4...
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  Speaker 4: You could be in that position where you're just underwater,
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  Speaker 4: treading water the rest.
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  Speaker 2: Of the season.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got to think about Drake May's confidence. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the opener was not good for him. There's this narrative
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  Speaker 3: out there that Drake May got great numbers last year
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  Speaker 3: because he was playing a lot of bad teams.
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  Speaker 5: And now, this year, the schedule's much harder.
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  Speaker 3: He needs an A.J.
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  Speaker 5: Brown for security.
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  Speaker 3: Right. If you want to lose A.J.
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  Speaker 4: Brown, can we lose him for the Raiders-Jets series, not
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  Speaker 4: the next three games, Steelers-Jags-Bills?
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  Speaker 3: If you looked at the game on Wednesday night, you
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  Speaker 3: could see the difference between A.J.
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  Speaker 5: Brown running routes and other guys running routes.
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  Speaker 4: Here's where they are right now. Romeo Dobbs, who was
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: 0 for the other night. DeMario Douglas. Mack Hollins is
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  Speaker 4: really stepping up. That's a guy who's probably going to
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: catch a lot of things. Remember a month ago, they
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: let Kayshaun Booty go in that trade. He's got some
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  Speaker 4: off-field issues to the Texans. That's a guy... Not so fast, man.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Matt Collins has been around for a while. I
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: love Matt Collins. You know, he doesn't wear shoes when
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  Speaker 3: he's not on the field. Walks around barefoot.
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  Speaker 2: Respect.
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  Speaker 3: Incredible person. But he can't be your go-to guy, Paul.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he said four weeks. Let's hope it's four weeks.
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  Speaker 4: The three-week go-to guy.
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  Speaker 6: All right, real quick.
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  Speaker 4: The NFL weekend.
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  Speaker 6: Bills, Texans.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to chop that up later. Packers, Vikings.
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  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 4: Saucy?
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  Speaker 3: That is so interesting. Kyle Murray, that to me might
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  Speaker 3: be the most interesting quarterback situation, but you really don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, we got Buccaneers, Bengals, Ravens, Colts, Falcons, Steelers, and
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  Speaker 4: we don't know about Tua and who's starting there.
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  Speaker 3: If it's not Tua and it's Cooper Rush for the Falcons,
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be an ugly game. Steelers play ugly games.
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  Speaker 4: I think Michael Penix is four-string right now because of
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: health issues. Commanders, Eagles, then let's wrap it up with Cowboys, Giants,
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  Speaker 4: Sunday Night Football, NBC, Saucy?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think people are going to watch this game?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everyone's going to watch this game.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're going to have more people watching this
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: game than really any sporting event that's not the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: This is a big test. I have more on the
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys later, but the Giants will be getting some buzz today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think everyone wants to see if neighbors can
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: come back, if Scadigaboo can come back, and if Jackson
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: Dark can run. and stay away from the blue tent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also the Cowboys-Giants is always a big rating.
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  Speaker 3: This year, I think it deserves it because these are
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  Speaker 3: very interesting teams. All of week one is huge. Kyler Murray,
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  Speaker 3: that's the guy I'm really watching ball.
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  Speaker 4: He needs a ball out game just so everyone can
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  Speaker 4: quiet down about him.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, Michigan. Will they rebound tomorrow
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: against Oklahoma? I'll tell you right now, not so fast
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  Speaker 3: is not so sure.
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  Speaker 5: That's next.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go, Pearl. Not so fast. Pass to Pearl
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: off the midday pick-me-up to get you ready. Let's go
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  Speaker 4: back to Melbourne. Ooh, look at these fellas. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if they're locals or they went in for the game,
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  Speaker 4: but they're doing the old drink-out-of-the-boot thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, did you do that in college, Paul?
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  Speaker 4: Surprisingly, no. I drank just about everything that was available,
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  Speaker 4: but I always like... I don't need this. I don't
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  Speaker 4: need boot beer.
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  Speaker 3: So they're taking boot and rally to the next level?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the boot, and I don't know if either
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: of those guys rally, but that looks a little disgusting.
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  Speaker 4: Time for warm takes here on Not So Fast with
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  Speaker 4: Pabst and Perloff. A little cozy stuff to get you
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  Speaker 4: into the weekend. I'm going to go first on the
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  Speaker 4: warm takes. Here we go, Perloff. Look at the college
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  Speaker 4: football ratings from this weekend. Notre Dame versus Wisconsin was
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: a monster rating, and Wisconsin's not even that good. Louisville-Ole
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: Miss was a great rating. All these kind of created
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: matchups were fantastic ratings for college football. I wonder if,
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: as we get to a 2014 playoff, which seems inevitable,
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  Speaker 4: instead of the regular season being more, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: schedule cupcakes because that could make it into the playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: do these college football teams think, why don't we schedule
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: heavyweights for our out-of-conference games? And this can work for you.
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  Speaker 4: Look at Ohio State versus Texas this weekend. The loser
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  Speaker 4: of this game doesn't lose a thing with the college
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  Speaker 4: football committee. You get credit for playing in a heavyweight
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  Speaker 4: game early in the season. You lose by four points,
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  Speaker 4: Texas or Ohio State, you're just fine. Now, if you're
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: Michigan and you lose, which they did to Western Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: That is debilitating. That takes you out of the top 25.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm wondering if this has a reverse effect, the
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  Speaker 4: 2014 playoff, that I'm going to schedule bigger. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to schedule heavyweights. I'm going to, you know, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 4: and USC will get back together. Michigan, Notre Dame get
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: back together. Texas at Texas A & M every year.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what's going to happen going forward because
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: there's more money to be made. Neutral site, home games.
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  Speaker 4: If Texas faces Texas State, people leave. They don't stay.
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  Speaker 4: They don't spend money. But if Texas has Texas A &
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: M in week two, you got something.
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  Speaker 5: I could not disagree with you more, Paul. Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 3: You're telling me if Texas didn't lose to Ohio State
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: last year, 14-7 in opening week, they wouldn't have been
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: in the playoff? They had three losses. They would have
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: made the playoff last year. I know what you're saying.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: You've got to play it safe. Notre Dame last year,
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: if they didn't have Miami and A & M early
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  Speaker 3: in the schedule and had Ball State and Youngstown State,
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: they would have been in the playoff.
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: But you still get credit for that. heavyweight game early.
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: You lose to Florida later in the season. I can't
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: help you.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think the committee gives you enough credit. I
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: don't think they pay enough attention to strike the schedule.
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: I am anti that. I think that they should really
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: weigh wins more than losses. And if you have three losses,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: they immediately.
• 13:05
  Speaker 5: Kick you out.
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: You poo-pooed my warm take quick.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what you're saying. But I think that's
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: a wishful warm take. Because if you were the commissioner
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: of college football, you would have really hard.
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: Schedules to start the season.
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: And I'm available then.
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: You know, if they expand to 24, then maybe we'll
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: get that. Okay, I'm sticking with college football. There's a
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: few rules here in Not So Fast. Number one, obviously,
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: ball don't lie, karma. That means Michigan is going to
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: lose this weekend because the universe wants them to. It's
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: not just that they got the extra second to beat
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Western Michigan. It's that their fans rushed the field. The
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: University of Michigan fans rushed the field against Western Michigan.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: I think that things need to be corrected in a
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: universal sense here, and I think that somebody has to
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: make Michigan pay for these two, in my opinion, transgressions.
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: Transgressions.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma, who they play this weekend, has built a really
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: good team under our buddy general manager Jim Nagy. They
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: obviously have John Mateers healthy, ready to go. Paul, they
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: have a tight end, a backup tight end, whose name
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: is Rocky Beers. Sort of touched down last week out
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: of Colorado State. I mean, that's reason enough to root
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: for them.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: If your last name is Beers, you never, ever change it.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: It's in Ann Arbor, so it makes me a little nervous,
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: but I do think that Michigan is going to have
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: trouble emotionally rebounding from last week.
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: This is a really serious game, especially for the quarterback
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: Bryce Underwood of Michigan. He has to both win and
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: play well. He has to do both of those.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Oklahoma is underrated. For some reason,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: they're under the radar, but they have a really, really
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: strong roster.
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: John Mateer, healthy, the quarterback of Oklahoma, he wants to
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: make a statement. All right, I'm going to go to
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: my next warm take. I do love when we play,
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: when I say we, American football plays in other countries. Now,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: they've been playing in Europe for a while, even South
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: America for a while, but this is new to Australia.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: And I think of the 60,000 people there, somebody in
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Australia is watching American football for the first time ever.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: And I wonder what they think when they see American football.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: We're used to it. But when they see it and
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: they see... A bunch of big dudes running around really
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: hard for four to six seconds, and then they go
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: and have a meeting for 45 seconds. And then they
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: run around for four to five seconds, and then, oh,
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: another meeting. Because that's what it is. It's explosive plays,
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and then let's talk about it. Explosive plays. You know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: if you grew up on rugby or soccer, which I didn't,
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I used to look at soccer and think, what are
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: they doing? I don't understand offsides. I don't understand rugby
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: at all when I was a kid. Imagine what Europeans
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: and Australians that think of American football and all our
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: rules are. surviving the ground, in or out. What is
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: a fair catch? So I'm asking permission not to get hit?
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Is that with my hands in the air? So I
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: imagine if you're in Australia yesterday and you enjoyed American
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: football for the first time, it will be back because
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: we want to grow it nationally, internationally. But at some point,
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: you're thinking, you're looking at your buddy like, they're having
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: another meeting. Why all these meetings?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Even I don't know the kickoff rules. I watch 14
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: hours of football a weekend. How about that offside on
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: the tush push that was kind of made up on
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night? Explain that, like, what's going on here? All
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: the rules are so convoluted, and they change 10 rules
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: every offseason.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: And one of the refs, there was a field goal by,
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I think, the 49ers. One of the refs did the
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: old Australian rules football. one of those instead of doing that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: That was kind of cool.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: That was very cool.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: Okay, that is a good one.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the NFL for my next
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: warm take.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: 13 games this weekend.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I'm fired up about all of them, but there's one
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: storyline I really want to.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: See, Paul, and that's the Dallas Cowboys defense.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Cowboys got a lot of buzz this preseason, and everyone
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: thinks their defense will be better than last year.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: New coordinator Christian Parker.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: It better be.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you that right now.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And we'll see against the Giants because the Giants are
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: going to play conservative football. They're going to try and
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: run it down the throat of Dallas. Now, Dallas in
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: the past has been very weak against the run. Now
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: they have Quinton Williams and Kenny Clark up front. We're
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: basically going to see, Paul, did the Micah Parsons trade
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: work out on Sunday? Because Jerry Jones... is saying that
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: we can stop the run now. We used to not
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: be able to do that, and we know the offense
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: is going to be good. So Cam Scadamu, Jackson Dart
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: are going to be running a lot against Dallas. Do
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: they hold up? I think if the Cowboys' defense is legit,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: then that is one of the key storylines of the
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: early season because the whole team is going to be good.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: And you picked the Cowboys to go deep this year
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I haven't been winning the division.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Now, postseason Cowboys is always an adventure, Paul. They used
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to go 12-5 every year. They'd get blown out in
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I don't know about the playoffs.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: It's going to be interesting because the Micah Parsons trade
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: will be talked about forever. As long as he's injured
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: and not playing for the Packers, They win. The Cowboys
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: win because their players are playing. But it's got a
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: long way to go. I think people are maybe not
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: so fast with this defense. They think it's going to
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: be fantastic day one. It may not be day one.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Also, we get to see Caleb Downs at safety, former
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Ohio State star. Love him.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, can a rookie safety really lead a defense?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: That's what they keep saying in camp, that he's that awesome.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I think we're going to be talking about that on Monday.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: The rookie I remember leading a defense or being impactful
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: was Troy Palamalu out of USC with the Steelers. He
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: was day one flying around the field.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, we're safety guys. I had Brian Dawkins in Philly.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I know your favorite player maybe ever.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Ed Reed.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: My favorite non-Bear ever might be Ed Reed. All right,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: it's time to play a little game here in Not
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: So Fast with Paps and Perloff. It's called Who Said It?
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Could be NFL, could be college, could be other. Perloff,
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: who said this? Here we go. I love playoffs. I
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: love the big games. I want a chance at the tournament.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Overall, us as an offense,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: I want us to proclaim dominance. I want us to
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: be who we think we are.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: So this has got to be a good offensive team.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go NFL. I'm going to say this
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: is Jalen Hurst of the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I see tournament. Tournament. I'm going to go Julian Sayen
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: of Ohio State. This is a tough one. Here we go.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Who said this?
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: I love playoffs.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I love the big games.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I want a chance at the tournament.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: C.D.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Lamb.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Overall, us as an offense, I want us to proclaim dominance.
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: I want us to be who we think we are.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: He threw us off with tournament there. I think he
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: did it purposely to get us to make a mistake
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: on who said it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I kind of like that when people say, you just
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: got to get into the tournament for football. But I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: get half point for right division, Paul?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: You get half a point. You know, C.D. Lamb, by
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: the way, there's a guy who needs playoff success to
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: add to his resume because he's as good as anybody.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: One more who said it, Perloff, NFL, college, or other.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Here we go. Who said this? We got our behinds
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: kick last time we played, and sometimes in this football
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: world that happens, right? So when you get behind kick,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: you don't forget it. And it didn't end or break us,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: but it was a nice wake-up call.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I would like to say the Rams because they got
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the big wake-up call.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I think that's a coach. They try not to swear.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Steve Sarkeesian of Texas.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to double down and go Sark.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Sark. Let's go with Sark on this one.
• 19:36
  Speaker 9: We got our behinds kick, you know, like the last time,
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: and we played in. Like sometime in the football world,
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: like that happens.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: So when you get your your behind kick, you don't
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: forget it. And it wasn't end us or break us.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: But it was a it was definitely a nice, nice
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: wake up call.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: That's Deion Dawkins of the Bills. Talk about the Texans.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: And not swearing. Very professional of him. You know, as
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: a guy who's got his behind kicked a lot in
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: grade school by the local bullies, I don't ever forget.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't really have the size or the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: talent of Deion Dawkins.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: That is really, really obvious.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: A little different.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: All right, stick around. We're going to talk to Connor
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Rogers of NBC Sports to get you ready for the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: college and pro weekend and much, much more.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Stick around.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Not so fast. We'll be right back. The first time
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I met Andrew Perloff, I remember it well, I was
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: with Dan Patrick at the SI Studios in New York.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: City, in the offices.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: And we were talking to different editors about editing Dan's page.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And the first guy came in, the second guy came in,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: and they were normal, nice guys. And Andrew came in
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: kind of like Kramer, just like papers, and then like
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: one shirt thing was out. but he was funny and
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: he had ideas and he was goofy, but he had
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: ideas and they were funny ideas. And then we met
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: two more people. And when we got done, Dan and I,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I think we took a train home for God's sake.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: And he goes, which guy do you like? I'm like,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a tall guy. And we didn't remember
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: anybody's name. He goes, the guy who looked like McLovin
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: from Superbad. I'm like, well, he's a little older than that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Like McLovin's uncle. He goes, yeah, that guy. So we
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: call back and say like, we like that guy. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: like Andrew Perloff, I'm like, yeah, I think that's his name,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: but he stuck out in a good way.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Welcome back. Not so fast.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Perloff and Pabst.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: All right. Last week in college football, nuts. What do
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you expect this weekend, Paul? Beyond nuts.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I don't even know how to categorize what happened. Western Michigan, Michigan,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: all the different games. You got Michigan, Oklahoma this weekend.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You got OSU, Texas this weekend. Rice, Notre Dame, Bama, Kentucky, ISU, Iowa.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: That's just the headliners.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's going to be a great college
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: football weekend and a great pro football weekend. And if
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: you want to talk college and pro, there's no one
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: better than Connor Rodgers. NBC Sports, of course, a co-host
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: of Chris Simms Unbuttoned every day, 4 p.m. Eastern, part
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: of the pregame show for college football.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Connor, how are you doing?
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: I'm great, guys. Thanks for having me.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Awesome, dude. First of all, I know how busy you
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: are trying to control Sims. We've been there before. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: a hard job. Let's start with college football. Game of
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: the weekend, Texas, Ohio State. You also do a lot
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: of NFL draft stuff. It feels like this is a
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: mini combine in September because there are so many talented players.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: How do you see this game playing out?
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
• 22:15
  Speaker 10: If you're in the middle covering the draft, it's a
• 22:17
  Speaker 10: dream scenario because you get the best of both worlds.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, just looking at my preseason top 50 drafts,
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Jeremiah Smith was my number one player, the great wide
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: receiver for Ohio State. I had a ton of Texas
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: players in the top 10 between their pass rusher, Colin Simmons,
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: of course, Arch Manning. They got a superstar wide receiver
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: in Cam Coleman as a transfer this offseason. So it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: not only loaded with NFL prospects, it's loaded with legitimately
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: blue chippers on both sides of the ball that it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: going to be fascinating because these teams match up really,
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: really evenly. You know, you kind of try to lean
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: on the side of the home team in that scenario
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: as much as that has not gone well for Texas
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: against Ohio State. Wouldn't shock me, obviously, no matter the
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: outcome of this game, if both of these teams end
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: up going really, really far at the end of the year.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: This is a big moment for Arch.
• 23:01
  Speaker 10: I know that's cliche and everybody almost spends too much
• 23:03
  Speaker 10: time focusing on Arch. I think there's this kind of
• 23:05
  Speaker 10: myth that he's broken away from the rest of the
• 23:07
  Speaker 10: quarterback class when I see them as one large group,
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: as much as I do like him the best out
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: of all of these guys. But it's also a chance
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: for Julian Sane, who in theory could be a part
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: of that quarterback class, to kind of show like, hey,
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: don't forget about me. I'm a legitimate NFL prospect. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: this could be a statement game from Arch, who has
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: new weapons. He does have a good offensive line in
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: front of him. They've done work in the portal with
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: their run game as well. I just expect, as great
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: as the Ohio State defense typically is, Texas's offense to
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: really have the chance to make a statement and actually
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: come through with it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I want to go back to Jeremiah Smith, the wide
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: receiver of Ohio State. You've seen a lot of wide
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: receivers in your time. Does he comp out better or
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: rate better than Marvin Harrison Jr. coming out of college?
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: I think better, which is dangerous, right?
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: When you, like you say those things and you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: people are, how they talk about Marv now, I think
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: is going to have a good year in Arizona and
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: really settle in, especially with Michael LaFleur there, who will
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: know how to deploy a number one wide receiver on
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: the outside.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: In his scheme.
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: I think that they forget what Marv really was at
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: Ohio state. Now with Jeremiah Smith, I mean, he's got
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: even more muscle on his frame to power through coverage.
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: He can fly his strides, just eat up so much turf.
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: It's really hard to match up with him. He could
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: be a really good player in the NFL tomorrow. He
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: just has to play this season of college football.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: He's really, really unique.
• 24:24
  Speaker 10: I'm going to have a tough time when we get
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: close to the draft, kind of differentiating, or maybe it
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: won't be that hard. The best receiver prospect I've ever
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: scouted while doing this was Jamar Chase. But there's a
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: world where you just look at the physical gifts being
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: bigger than and playing even stronger, that Jeremiah Smith is
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: the best wide receiver prospect that I'll end up seeing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: There's people that have.
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: Been doing it long enough where I can't go back
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: to this, but they'll bring up Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: This is really, really rare air.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: You know what's funny, Connor?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: He might not even be the best Heisman wide receiver
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: candidate in college football. What do you make of Malachi
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Toney in Miami? I don't know about his NFL future,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: but in college, I'm not sure there's a better player.
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: Just electric, right? You really blink and he could get
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: one bad angle and he's gone. I know people were
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: excited about what they saw from Darian Mensah, their transfer
• 25:12
  Speaker 10: quarterback in that game. But I'm sitting there looking at what,
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: you know, obviously what Tony can do and. You know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: when people get to dangerous player comparisons, there will be
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: people that will be like, is this Tyreek Hill again?
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: When you just look at the game-changing speed.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: I'm not ready to go there, and the perfect part
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: is we have a lot of time left with him
• 25:29
  Speaker 10: at the college.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Level to do that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: But guys like that, that just move in that kind
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: of way that you purely can't match up with, but
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: you give any kind of space and zone, they're a
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: real problem. And there's an argument this Miami team is
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: somehow better than last year's Miami team.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I want to go to Michigan at Oklahoma. I think
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: they're getting 5.5 Michigan. it feels like Michigan's coming off
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: a loss. It's almost like a perception loss for Michigan,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: not an actual loss. But Bryce Underwood, their quarterback, who's
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: making millions of dollars to be their quarterback, I wouldn't
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: say it's a must-win game for him, but is it
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: a must-play-well game for him?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: I mean, you heard Winningham, whether it was after the
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: game or the day after the game, kind of saying like, hey,
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: it's not infinite here with him. So nothing is guaranteed
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: to him, no matter how much you were paid, especially
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: when besides the second Hail Mary, how poorly he played.
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: I think what's more concerning for Michigan is I thought
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: they were largely outclassed for almost the whole game for
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: much of it. I felt like they were outcoached, outplayed.
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: They didn't feel like the physically imposing team. For Oklahoma,
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: I'll say this on the other side, you're walking into
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: a situation, you're playing a team in Oklahoma, that this
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: is a must win for Oklahoma because of how hard
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: their schedule is. They got to be looking at this
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: and going, we're better than Michigan, especially with what Michigan
• 26:39
  Speaker 10: just showed last week. We're going to go in there
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: and take care of business and then look towards the
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: rest of our schedule, which can get much, much harder.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: So Michigan, this is the same story with them.
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: But now it's magnified because of not only the money
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: that Bryce is making, but You're expected to take steps forward.
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: If you have no consistent passing game in college football,
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: forget being put in the class of the big dogs.
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: It's hard to rank them in the top 25 after that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Connor, what do you want to see out of Notre
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Dame playing Rice, NBC? You know, obviously they should win.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Last week they started off slow against Wisconsin, picked it up.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: A lot of easy games on the early part of
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: the schedule. But still, I think it's championship or bust
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: for many people's eyes. So what do you want to
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: see in a game like.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: This on Saturday?
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: Quite simply, rhythm and timing in the pass game. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: thought C.J.
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: Carr, who I like a lot, he just looked a
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: little jittery in the first half and then didn't really
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: have to do a whole ton. That's a team that
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: they have an NFL secondary, and now their safety, Tay Johnson,
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: who could be a top 50 pick, is hurt again.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: But Leonard Moore, there's an argument he's going to be
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: the best defensive player in the draft and as good
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: as a corner prospect as we've seen the last 10 years.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: But that offense, they did such a good job protecting C.J.
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: Carr last year, and he was phenomenal when protected. The
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: very small sample size, which was I think less than
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: 100 snaps he was pressured on last year, there was
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: some questions. And that's not surprising for a young quarterback.
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: And this year, a redshirt sophomore quarterback that, you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: he can really attack all three levels of the field
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: with timing, touch, and accuracy. Just want to see that
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: against an opponent like Rice and get your offense a
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: little rhythm and some of the movement they've had on
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: the offensive line, let those guys gel together because they had,
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: you don't say that a lot about Notre Dame. They
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: had some tough moments on the offensive line and pass
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: pro last week.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a kind of a two-part question,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: which is more likely to happen towards the end of
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: the season. Dabo Sweeney is out of a job or
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin is in the national title game with LSU.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Oh man, I'll go back to Dabo. I just, It
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: just feels like it's time.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: And, you know, obviously there's a lot of good things
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: to feel about with Lane and LSU and a team
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: that was built in the portal and did a really
• 28:40
  Speaker 10: good job and how he gets them ready to play and,
• 28:43
  Speaker 10: you know, how buttoned up and gifted they are on
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: offense under him, no matter where he goes.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: But you look at Dabo.
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: And my problem with Clemson guys is everybody kind of
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: falls back on rightly. So have they fallen behind of
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: how to build a roster in college football because of
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: how they don't compete in the portal the same way that,
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: you know, you look at, you know, look at Indiana
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: winning the national championship last year.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: That's the easiest example, but it's a lot of teams.
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: I don't think Clemson is a well-coached team anymore. Obviously,
• 29:08
  Speaker 10: the change of coordinators over the years, but you watch
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: them play, whether it's schematically, how they build their team.
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: They have NFL talent. The guys like me that do
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: the draft do this every summer. Oh, all this NFL
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: talent in the front seven for Clemson. And then, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: you get boat raced. And it's like, how is this happening?
• 29:23
  Speaker 10: Because I know this is a good player.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Connor, I noticed your phone ring there. Was that Dabo
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: ringing you up because you criticized him like he did
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: that reporter.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: The other day?
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was actually my very delayed alarm for your guys' show,
• 29:34
  Speaker 10: so you can tell how organized I am right now.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Really poor form from me.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Not a good day, man.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: No, that's great. Connor, you also cover the Jets, speaking
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: of mistakes. It looks like a tank from the outside.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: You've been around the building. What do you expect from
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: the Jets this year?
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: They're in such a weird place.
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: I always find it, and I've been around the Jets
• 29:53
  Speaker 10: long enough to kind of see this before. You have
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: a coach that has to win. you have an organization
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: that still doesn't have a quarterback. So you're kind of
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: in a spot where, okay, can you win enough games
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: that you save your job? But if you win enough games,
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: but not enough to save your job, but also too
• 30:10
  Speaker 10: many out of an interesting draft slot.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Now they have three first rounders, which.
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: Gives them kind of that flexibility, hopefully to move and
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: capitalize on what should be a deeper quarterback class. They're
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: just in a very weird place, guys. They added a
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: lot of veterans in the off season. They are a
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: very young roster from all the picks they've had. They
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: look to me kind of like the classic case of
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: a six-win team that can beat up on the basement teams.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: And the Jets have been a basement team lately that
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: usually they lose to those teams. So that's a step forward.
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: But if you're looking at Aaron Glenn, a step forward
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: is not good enough. We need to probably take one, two, three,
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: four steps forward or a giant leap where the Jets,
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: they're going to be really, really interesting because of all
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: the assets they've accumulated. The roster is in a better place,
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: but they still have giant questions at the two most
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: important things in the NFL, and that's quarterback and the
• 30:54
  Speaker 10: head coach.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Connor, there's two tough jobs, helping Chris Sims every day
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and covering the Jets. In that order. Yeah, I don't
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: know if I envy you.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Don't watch the show for it, guys. I lose the
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: local Emmys every single year.
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: I'm just glad you guys appreciate this.
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Well, join us. Hopefully that will help break your streak.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: All right, we look forward to seeing you on Saturday,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: College Football Countdown on NBC. Connor, have a great week.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: We will talk to you later in the season.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks, guys.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you having me.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: That was fun.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: There's so much college football, Paul.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It is, and there was so much drama last week.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: It almost feels like, will this be a drama-free weekend
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: and just stuff on the field, or will it be
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: off the field as well?
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Well, we know the answer to that. It's college football.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: There will always be both drama on and off the field.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: All right, coming up next, the Clip Join. Something very
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: interesting on the DP Show today that we'll break down.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Got to stay for this. Not so fast.
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: Trent Williams had an unbelievable night considering Miles Garrett was
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: basically a no-show. How valuable is that if you're Brock
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: Purdy and you know Trent is going to take care
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: of that guy and you don't have Aaron Donald to
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: worry about?
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: Everything about the offense is created because you're not under
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: siege and especially with the best.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Players in the league.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: So Trent Williams, if you think about it, they're Christian
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: McCaffrey and Trent Williams showed up and you can say
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: kind of out of nowhere for the 49ers, two locks
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: in the hall of fame, just kind of like chose
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: the 49ers. And it's just changed everything. The two of
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: them have created incredible opportunity for the 49ers and Trent
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Williams is, but he's, we say he's a hall of famer.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: He's a hall of famer, hall of famer. Like he's
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: probably the best. You can say he's the best tackle
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: ever played.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast with Pabst and Perloff. This
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: is the clip joint. And we went to the pen,
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: but we brought an ace in from the pen, which
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: you usually don't do in baseball, I'm told. Dan Patrick
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: is joining us. Now, I don't want to talk football
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: with you, and I'm going to almost fan out.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I thought I almost escaped. I was ready to leave
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and start my weekend.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: We saw you go into the car with a big
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: plate full of wings and said, not so fast.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm so fast.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: You've had Steve Young. We've had Steve Young on the
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Dan Patrick Show for a couple years now. But I'm curious.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: And the reason I'm bringing it in is because I
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: think it's some of the best radio we have. You
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: two together, it could go an hour as far as
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I'm concerned. And I think a lot of fans agree
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: with it as well. Did you work with Steve back
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: in the ESPN days, or is this kind of a
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: new thing?
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: I first met him when he was playing, and I
• 33:36
  Speaker 11: remember meeting him and spending time with him at the
• 33:38
  Speaker 11: Children's Miracle Network. And my wife and family, we would
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: spend a week helping Marie Osmond and Steve Young, John
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: Schneider from the Dukes of Hazzard. So they would raise
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: money for Children's Miracle Network. And the more I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 11: around him, I clicked with him. I don't know what
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: it was, but I think he's the best NFL analyst.
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: And he's not working, because he used to work at
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: the mothership, but I find him to be self-deprecating, very smart,
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: and he's.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Got the resume as well.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: And I think when you put all of that together,
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: it just metastasizes how great he can be as an analyst.
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: And he's so much fun. Sometimes I forget That were
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: on radio or TV.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Which is the best.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. But he's just a lot of fun. He's a
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: good person.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I tell this story about you were standing next to
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: him in the Pittsburgh, Arizona Super Bowl. I think you
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: told on air that he was doing like a play-by-play
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: with you. What was that conversation? Because I've actually told
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: this story many times, but I want to make sure
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I have it right.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to hand out the trophy.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be Arizona. They just scored.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald scores. I'm on the sidelines.
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: And I figured, let me start where the Steelers are
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: starting their two-minute drill. And Steve Young happened to be
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: there on the sidelines. And he was like, hey, what
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: are you doing? I said, well, I'm going to hand
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: out the trophy. He goes, all right, let's watch this drive.
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: And he was giving me his analysis of Ben Roethlisberger
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: in real time. And he was saying how incredible Ben
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: was on that drive. I didn't even talk to him
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: when he threw the touchdown pass. I knew I had
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: to get in position to hand out the Super Bowl trophy.
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: But it's one of the best times, highlights of my career,
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: watching a Hall of Famer with a Hall of Famer
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: with the Super Bowl on the line.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: You had a private broadcast.
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: I only wish I could have had him mic'd up
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: and you could have heard him because he was saying,
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: this is what I would do.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: You know what's open? Boy, oh man, that's a great play.
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: And it was in real time that he was giving
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: me one of the great drives in Super Bowl history.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: So when you have Steve Young on the show and
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: he's coming on regularly, your job, a guy like him
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: is an expert on quarterback play and offense. And he
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: has more stories than he knows what he has in
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: his head. What's your role? What's your job?
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know where I'm going with him.
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: He's one of the few that I don't have it
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: pre-planned that I got it. There are certain things I
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: want to ask him about. Trent Williams, he said, might
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: be the best left tackle of all time. the travel
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: part of this. He didn't understand the Rams logic. So
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: I get to those things. Then you just kind of go.
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: But I always tell people being a good interviewer means
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: being a good listener.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: And Steve will.
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: Always give you something, whether he means to or not,
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: and then you follow up on that. And that's the
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: fun part because I think he likes the fact that
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: they're not.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Your prototypical question.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: And he gets to breathe.
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: Yes. And all these analysts, when they come on, if
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: you're on the mothership, you might get 15 seconds here,
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: 20 seconds here.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you 15 minutes.
• 36:53
  Speaker 11: Like Louis Riddick, love having him on because he wants
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: to talk football. And to be able to have that platform,
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: I think is welcoming for a lot of these analysts.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Do you have to be a quarterback to analyze certain things,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: to analyze a quarterback? You've actually, I've seen you work
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: with current players and former players. Is it really, does
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: it start with QBs? As far as being able to analyze,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Steve Young can see the whole game. Do you prefer
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: former quarterbacks when you're talking about certain things with offense?
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: Well, I think they're probably interviewed more than anybody else.
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: I like talking to defensive backs, too, because they see
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: the field from a different angle. And I think we
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: don't get that perspective as often. It's the quarterback's perspective.
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: Sometimes that defensive back even linebacker, when Brian Urlacher would
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: be on. He gave me a whole different view of
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: what he would say. Ray Lewis, same thing. I think
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: when you get that, all you want to do is
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: say to your audience, we don't want to bore you
• 37:56
  Speaker 11: with the regular stuff. We've thought about something or give
• 37:59
  Speaker 11: you something. Even when we had the sleep doctor on,
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: I didn't know what I was going to get, but
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: she works for the And she's saying, I don't understand
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: the logic behind the Rams. Well, you know, that was
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: before it happened instead of after. And she, you know,
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: said the Niners will be more acclimated and thought that
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: was going to be an advantage. And I think that,
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: you know, that, you know, showed.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you for popping in. Also, thank you. I heard
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: you saved us a to-go plate of wings.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: We appreciate that. I did.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: And I get credit for this booking, Perloff.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: All right. It's fine.
• 38:28
  Speaker 11: By the way, Paulie trying to show some skin here.
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: I don't know what that means for the ratings here.
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: But all of a sudden, I got cleavage on the show.
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: And who knew that was going to happen?
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You know, whatever works.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear what your wife has to
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: say about that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Thank you for coming by.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Are we on that note?
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: We got to get back to the cliff joint. All right,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: let's go to Mike Evans had a solid 49ers debut,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: but he didn't know when the Rams got into town
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: and he had a great reaction.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: When did they get out here? Seriously?
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Oh, dang.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got to get your body time to adjust.
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, obviously whenever the game is scheduled, you got
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: to be ready to play, but maybe a few days
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: earlier would have been ideal, but But no matter what,
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: we don't care if they came a week or two
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: weeks earlier. We had it on our mind to come
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: out here and execute, and we did that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Wait, how is it possible that Mike Evans didn't see
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: all the headlines about the Rams' travel plans?
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: See, you're looking at this completely wrong. Mike Evans is
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: focused on football. That's what I learned. He's not watching SportsCenter.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: He's not watching Not So Fast. He would have known
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: about the travel plan.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yesterday we did picks, and I picked the Rams.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: If I had known Mike Evans was going to look
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: like that, I would have taken the 49ers. He looks
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: like he is going to be the cheat code for
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: that offense.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: All right, we've got a lot more to get to,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: but let's talk a little bit about Heisman Trophy this week.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: We've got the Heisman coming up. Long way to go,
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: but let's get to getting the Heisman always on Not
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: So Fast.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Look at that guy. That is the closest I'll ever
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: get to the Heisman Award. All right, Perloff, a couple
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Heisman games this weekend. Oregon, Oklahoma State, Dante Moore, great
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: second half statement game for him.
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  Speaker 2: A couple more.
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  Speaker 4: OU, Michigan, at Michigan, John Mateer of Oklahoma.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Showcase game. Showcase game for him. But, I mean, I
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: know the next game you're going to do, to me,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: is the big one.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Well, it's Ohio State, Texas. Everyone's a Heisman candidate.
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  Speaker 3: Is the winner of that game the frontrunner? I think
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Menta jumped in the odds, but Arch wins. The narrative
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is going to be all about Arch. Ohio State wins.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I guess it's going to be Jeremiah Smith based on
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: the odds.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: It's weird that Jeremiah Smith is up there and Julian
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Say and his quarterback is not. That could flip-flop as
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: the season goes along. CJ Carr has rice this weekend.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's going to help his case.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Well, he's going to get some numbers.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: He'll get some numbers, but Malachi Toney last night against FAMU,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: while you get numbers, you don't get a lot of
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: credit for those.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: No, but they're going to have a lot more tests
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: moving forward. I mean, you're right.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: You do have to, in those early games, you want
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: to throw six touchdowns and have no picks, and then
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year... You have 45 touchdowns.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: It's going to be, you know, to me, the big
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: battle quarterback versus wide receiver. You have Tony and Smith
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: versus Arch Manning and Dante Moore and all the other guys.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: They're sharing votes. Then you look at some other teams
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: like Ole Miss. Can Chambliss get back in the mix?
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Does LSU have a Heisman candidate at this juncture?
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: They don't.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Well, LSU, gosh, I mean, it could be their quarterback.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Sam Leavitt is very, very good.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Coming up next, it's time for, oh, a little constructive
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: criticism and the feel good. Much, much more. Thanks to
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Dan Patrick for stopping by.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Stick around.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Not so fast.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: All right, we're back on Not So Fast. Perloff and Papps,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: NBC Sports Now, Peacock. Paul, there are a lot of
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: big games this weekend. Know what everyone's going to be watching?
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Bill's Texan is the winner of Houston Buffalo, the favorite.
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: In the AFC.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: It feels like amongst the games that could be an
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: AFC title game preview. To me, it's C.J. Stroud. I
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: mentioned earlier in Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 3: C.J.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Stroud in that playoff game, he felt like he hurt
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: his team. You know, you could have an off day,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: but you can't be the reason your team loses. And C.J.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Stroud was just, it's like he played that game with
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: mittens on in the AFC. And I think if he
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: plays C.J. Stroud two years ago football or even close
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: to it with that defense, they should be just fine.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they're both good teams, but to say
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: they're the winner of this is a favorite. To me,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: those teams in the West will be heard from. Obviously,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs, Chargers, and Broncos. So I like both these teams.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they're going to be in the playoffs,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: especially with New England maybe falling a little bit. But
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: once again, until these teams do it in the playoffs,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I don't really care what happens week one.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: There's the odds to win the AFC and, you know, Bills, Ravens, Chiefs.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Do you look at that? The Texans are down there.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: The Texans are farther down the list than I thought
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: they were.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Below the Bengals.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I wonder if the Texans may flip-flop with the Patriots
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: as of today.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you one thing. It's about the quarterback.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: If you look at that list, people just don't trust C.J.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Stroud.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: All right, it's time for Monday's lead today. What we'll
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: be talking about Monday on all the shows, including Not
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: So Fast, right here after the Dan Patrick Show. on
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: NBC Sports Now. Monday's lead today, you were first, Perloff.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go off the board. We've been
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: talking a lot of football, obviously, but my Monday's lead
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: is tennis, and I'm being optimistic. This is a wishful
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Monday's lead. Tonight, we get Francis Diafo versus Ben Shelton.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: The winner of that goes on to the finals. We'll
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: have an American in the finals. An American is going
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: to win the U.S. Open for the first time since
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Andy Roddick on the men's side. And Shelton and Tiafoe
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: are incredible to root for. Obviously, Ben Shelton's got Trinity
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Rodman cheering for him in the sideline. He has star power.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: He has star power.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: And Foe, as I like to call him, Foe, is
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: just incredibly entertaining. This would be a huge story.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: I know we're going to come off of football, but
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: an American winning the U.S. Open would be fantastic.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Huge for the sport, and I think everybody would be
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: really into it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I love you going against the grain off the board
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: there with your pick a little bit. I also worry sometimes.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: I think the men's title match is 2 p.m. on Sunday.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: It's always buried for years.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: That is in the thick of NFL.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I know. And witching hour is coming at the end
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: of the 1 p.m. Eastern hour.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: My advice would be buy more TVs for your house.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: All right, my Monday's lead will be the Cowboys defense
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: roughs up the Giants. If the Cowboys defense does rough
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: up the Giants, let's say that game is... 28-7. The
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Cowboys are always a topic, and if they're really good,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: even more so. When they're really bad, much, much more so.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: But that defense, which a lot of people like, Caleb
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Downs making his debut, the trade, all that goes with it,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: if they could pitch a shutout or something akin to
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: a shutout, They're going to get a lot of run,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: and people are going to jump to Cowboys in the
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl, question mark, which will be way too soon.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: People are already there. Yeah, we have to hype this up.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: We're worried that no one's going to watch it on NBC.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no worries there, NBC Sunday night. All right, let's
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: get to a little constructive criticism. Week two of Not
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: So Fast, our best week, I think, so far. Constructive criticism.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Some people are saying, like Dan Patrick, my shirt, I
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: missed a button. We'll get to that. From Dave Shoemaker, Pauly,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: it's a must and it has to be metal trowel.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: trough like old stadiums. Now, that goes back to yesterday.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: We were saying a buddy of mine in Chicago is
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: building a man cave, and he's going to build a
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: urinal in his bathroom, and a lot of people on
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Twitter liked it, so Yeah, it's like the metal trough,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: that's at the.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I think he's saying take it one step
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: further and do the metal trough. I got to tell you,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: the ice in the metal trough at Wrigley Field when
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I first saw it, I'd probably never been more gross
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: out at a sporting event.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I am not pro trough.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get one more, and this is all
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: urinal related. We really hit a string here. Bad call,
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: the stank would be overpowering. Well, I mean, not if
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: you get one of those nice urinal cakes and a
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: nice flow of water to keep it clean.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we need– can we get that sleep
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: scientist from the DP show on to talk about the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: odor science of this?
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, is urinal actually sanitary? I don't know, but I
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: still want one.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: See, we go in the bathrooms and we leave. When
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: you have one in your house, you've got to take
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit better care of it. All right, big
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: football weekend coming up, but let's stick with what happened
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: last night. And it's time for the feel good. I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: not so fast. Oh, I'm sorry. Check that. We're ahead.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Keep it friendly time, Perloff. Here we go. These are
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: our little bets for the weekend. Where do we start?
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Let's start college football. I'm going to start Ohio State
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: versus Texas. Texas giving a point and a half.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Who would you like? I was torn on this game,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: and then I heard Charles Davis on the Dan Patrick
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Show today point out that Ohio State's run like a
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: pro team. I actually have been trying to convince myself
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: into Texas. I see Ohio State walking away with a
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: close win.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: So we'll bet straight up. I'm taking Texas. You take
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Ohio State. I think this is, if not now, never possible.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: For Texas, I think it's a must-win-ish because otherwise you're
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: going uphill with the Heisman race.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: And the playoffs. Well, they could get back into the playoff.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is one game, but you're right. This
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: feels really big for Sark and Texas.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: This game is saucy and for all the wrong reasons.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: You can't lose to a basketball school when you're a
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: football school. That's one of the rules. Rule number 76
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: is play like a champion. Bama giving 10 to Kentucky. Now,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Alabama football last year, good regular season. Not good in
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. They cannot afford this loss where you're at here.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Wait, which one's the basketball school now? Because I've got
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: to be honest, Alabama is a little better. And Kellen DeBoer, sorry,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: he's no Nick Saban. They might be more of the
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: basketball school.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: You could say whatever you want to an Alabama football fan,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: but if you tell them they're a basketball school, they
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: may duke's up.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: In Kentucky, I think Kentucky is going to be salty.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Keep this close. I love Will Stein, their new head coach.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: I think they cover and even threaten to win. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: don't know about the young quarterback at Alabama. It hasn't
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: been tested.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: So you're taking Kentucky to cover not to win?
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, cover not to win. I want to take the win.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: I'm close, Paul. I wouldn't be shocked beyond shocked.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: I will take Alabama given the 10. I don't think
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: it's going to be much more than that. I wish
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: it was 9.5, but I will take that. Let's get
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: to NFL, and this one was the one you loved
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: this weekend. Bills giving a point and a half to
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the Texans. Could be low scoring. I don't have the over-under,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: but it could be low scoring. Where do you want
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: this one?
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: I actually think the Bills come out a team on
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: a mission today because a lot of people have a
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: lot of questions about them.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: They've got Joe Bradian as their new head coach.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen is the one quarterback who can
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: maybe run through Will Anderson. So I think it's going
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: to be a great classic opening week game, but I
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: think Josh Allen wins the game in the final minute.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: And this is the biggest test for their defense because
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: this is, like you said, the one quarterback who doesn't
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: care about the pressure because he can run through it.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: All right, real quick, time for the feel good. What
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: happened in sports that makes you feel good? This one
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: for us. Here we go. Here's the feel good. We're
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: going back to Melbourne, of course. Look at this crew.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: They're singing along to Sweet Caroline. Tarps are coming off.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe some shouldn't.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Mix in a salad and maybe lift a little. How
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: about a back raiser?
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, you have to admit, international fans get into it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: They always bring their age.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: And this game is 10.30 a.m. That means they start
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: a tailgating, what, the night before?
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. There's a Dolphins jersey.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: The eclectic jerseys, they got to send it to one
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: of these games just to keep track of all the
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: different team jerseys.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: We absolutely should.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: We love that stuff.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: That's it for us on Not So Fast Week 2.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Thanks for everybody who works on the show to make
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: it possible. Stick around. Monday, Dan Patrick Show. Wrap up
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: the NFL weekend every morning, 9 a.m.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Eastern.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: That's it for us. Not so fast.