Latest / Becker's Healthcare Behavioral Health / Renee Rafferty, Senior Vice President of Behavioral Health at Children's Nebraska
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- 1:14This is Laura Dirdle with the Becker's Healthcare
- 1:16podcast.
- 1:17I'm thrilled today to be joined by Renee
- 1:19Rafferty, senior vice president of behavioral health at
- 1:22Children's Nebraska. Renee, it's a pleasure to have
- 1:24you on the podcast today.
- 1:26Oh, thank you so much for inviting. I'm
- 1:28really excited to be here and to to
- 1:30share more about,
- 1:32behavioral health.
- 1:34Absolutely. And one important topic today, I know
- 1:37behavioral health is such a huge issue for
- 1:40many hospitals and health systems across the country.
- 1:42But in particular,
- 1:43we've seen a light being shown on, pediatric
- 1:47in child behavioral health and mental health as
- 1:49well over the last few years, which is
- 1:51so important. So I'm looking forward to learning
- 1:53more about what you're doing at Children's Nebraska.
- 1:55But before we dive in, can you tell
- 1:57us a little bit more about yourself and
- 1:58your background?
- 2:00Absolutely.
- 2:01So I'm a trauma therapist by background. I've
- 2:03spent the last
- 2:0520 years or over 20 years in a
- 2:07leadership role, and I became a leader a
- 2:09behavioral health leader because of my passion for
- 2:12improving access to care
- 2:14and integrating behavioral health care into all settings.
- 2:17My and my longest role at Providence Health
- 2:19and Services,
- 2:20leading the Alaska region, I was able to
- 2:23support expansion of services for both youth and
- 2:25adult. For youth specifically, developing
- 2:28a adolescent residential treatment center that specialized in
- 2:32treating trauma, implementing substance abuse disorder pathway
- 2:36with medical centers for adults, integrating mental health
- 2:38services in schools, and expanding
- 2:40best practice for crisis care.
- 2:43I've been working with Children's Nebraska
- 2:46because of the compelling vision of the executive
- 2:50team led by Nebraska CEO,
- 2:52Chanda Chacon,
- 2:54who's truly investing
- 2:55in our community and vision for expanding access
- 2:58to behavioral health care.
- 3:01Well, that's amazing to hear. You know? And
- 3:02I know there's a lot of work to
- 3:03be done in this space. So for you
- 3:05at Children's Nebraska, what are the opportunities and
- 3:08headwinds that you have your eye on right
- 3:09now?
- 3:11It's a really exciting time to be a
- 3:13part of the health care industry.
- 3:14We have a chance to change the system
- 3:16of care. There's such a need for prevention
- 3:19and intervention that's been growing even before the
- 3:21pandemic.
- 3:22We know that right now approximately 20% of
- 3:24children have been diagnosed with mental health conditions
- 3:27in the United States.
- 3:28But, really, we know that estimated
- 3:30number is far larger than that, and it's
- 3:33a time for organizations to really double down
- 3:35on expanding both vertical and horizontal
- 3:38care. And Children's Nebraska has taken this opportunity
- 3:41to partner and to really build a state
- 3:44of the art center.
- 3:45The Mental Health Innovation Foundation,
- 3:48Ken Simpson, is a local philanthropy,
- 3:50and he has,
- 3:52been able to garner community support and raise
- 3:54over a $110,000,000
- 3:56to,
- 3:58build the behavioral health and wellness center. And
- 4:00it's going to be a state of the
- 4:01art facility that has a strong continuum of
- 4:03care. So, really, the you we have primary
- 4:06care prevention, screening, and early intervention inside the
- 4:09center as well as that urgent and crisis
- 4:12care for families and youth that are struggling.
- 4:14So you can walk in one door and
- 4:16either get that primary care or get that
- 4:19crisis intervention urgent support for either mental health
- 4:22or substance use disorder, aligning with that best
- 4:24practice.
- 4:25And then, also, within the facility, if you
- 4:27need that more acute care, we have partial
- 4:29hospitalization
- 4:30and inpatient for use,
- 4:3338 beds. So you can see that there's
- 4:35a real expansion of services that will benefit
- 4:37the state of Nebraska. It's really exciting to
- 4:40see that the community
- 4:41partnership and the local leaders in recognizing the
- 4:44importance, but also,
- 4:46the executive team at Children's Nebraska recognizing the
- 4:49the the true opportunity
- 4:51to to change the system of care.
- 4:55That's great to hear, and really,
- 4:58cool things that you have been rolling out
- 5:00to expand that access to care and really
- 5:02make sure you're working with the communities.
- 5:04Now how are you thinking about growth and
- 5:06adding value to Children's Nebraska overall going forward?
- 5:11I think of behavioral health as being an
- 5:14organizational wide approach, and it's so important right
- 5:17now for us to create strategic vision
- 5:21and invest
- 5:22in specialty,
- 5:24care and ensuring that they have, care as
- 5:26well as primary care embedded inside
- 5:30the delivery system. Gone are the days that
- 5:32we can opt out of behavioral health care
- 5:33and imagine that, you know, funding challenges prevent
- 5:36health care from from opting in. Really, all
- 5:39organizations
- 5:40need to be changing the delivery system,
- 5:43and it's important,
- 5:45you know, to to imagine that really early
- 5:47intervention
- 5:48and,
- 5:49community access to care reduces the cost of
- 5:52care.
- 5:53So we'll get there by educating and supporting
- 5:56all of our leaders in growing mental health
- 5:58acumen. CEOs, CFOs, executive teams
- 6:01need to understand trauma informed care and ways
- 6:04to intervene early. I'll give you an example
- 6:06of how we're doing that at Children's Nebraska.
- 6:09We're creating a safety and well-being focus that
- 6:12integrates care early to prevent agitation and escalation.
- 6:16And it comes from
- 6:18a a true approach of all disciplines,
- 6:21learning how to recognize agitation early
- 6:24and put the resources in the right place
- 6:26at the right time. And this allows for,
- 6:29resilience, well-being of not only the patients, but
- 6:32also for,
- 6:34the staff. And I think when you see
- 6:36that organization wide approach of bringing behavioral health
- 6:39in and and training the leaders and and
- 6:41ensuring that,
- 6:42that education is there, we're going to transform
- 6:45the system of care.
- 6:47That
- 6:48was really cool to hear and think about.
- 6:50And, certainly, as you mentioned, from the c
- 6:52suites down to the whole executive level,
- 6:55seeing what results that trauma informed care can
- 6:58have,
- 6:59makes a big difference.
- 7:00When you are making that transition and connecting
- 7:03with the broader executive team, how do you
- 7:05emphasize the importance with this, in what ways
- 7:09do you really make sure you're communicating on
- 7:11a,
- 7:12on that level so that they understand the
- 7:14importance and why, you know, making that investment
- 7:16could really make a big difference for them?
- 7:19I think first is getting everybody trained in
- 7:21trauma informed care. When you use that lens,
- 7:24it helps you to really predict and to
- 7:26understand what's best for patient and what's best
- 7:28for the staff member. Those things are really
- 7:31intrinsically linked. And so the opportunity for either,
- 7:35the right clinician or the right resource,
- 7:38becomes very visible to the leader. So that's
- 7:40a great opportunity. I think also what you've
- 7:42seen here and you've seen in many other
- 7:44organization is really elevating behavioral health leadership to
- 7:47be a part of the discussion
- 7:49everywhere, and I think that helps so that
- 7:51the expertise is there, whether it's with physicians
- 7:54or nursing
- 7:55or with,
- 7:57within inside the,
- 7:59leadership team, it it helps
- 8:01to gain that organizational
- 8:03conversation
- 8:04that asks the question, what is what's needed
- 8:06here, for the patient to have the best
- 8:09outcome?
- 8:11That is truly great to hear and helpful
- 8:13information. Now, you know, when you think about,
- 8:17moving ahead, I know hospital health system finances
- 8:21are are tight right now. And so, you
- 8:23know, broadly, what are some of the things
- 8:25that you feel are still a really good
- 8:27risk or investment worth making over the next
- 8:29year given, you know, for for some of
- 8:31our listeners and broader audience, they might have
- 8:33a little bit tighter of a budget than
- 8:35they would otherwise have?
- 8:37A couple of things come to mind. The
- 8:39first is leveraging
- 8:41infrastructure to to take on new innovative technologies
- 8:44that are going to be coming in over
- 8:46the next 10 years. I think we're gonna
- 8:48see a real explosion of that.
- 8:50An example right now is that we have
- 8:52an innovation center that has partnered with Steelcase,
- 8:56Logitech, and Ocular to launch a holographic telehealth
- 8:59service.
- 9:00And this is the first and currently only
- 9:03organization to have this type of service. It's
- 9:06innovative
- 9:07for patients and families to receive point to
- 9:09point care with a holographic display on each
- 9:12side. It just removes the noise and distraction
- 9:14sound in the typical web conferencing systems used
- 9:17in telehealth. So it brings that human led
- 9:19focus and a warm personal touch to telehealth.
- 9:22We wanna be ready to adopt these things
- 9:24as they come, and it's really will expand
- 9:27access to care,
- 9:28as well as offer really new ways to,
- 9:32to heal.
- 9:33And another area that I think is really
- 9:35important to invest in is is bringing a
- 9:37diverse workforce
- 9:38into the behavioral health system. And that comes
- 9:41from investing in scholarships and in training,
- 9:44reaching into the community, spending time educating about
- 9:47paths of care that they can participate in.
- 9:49They can be behavioral specialists. They can go
- 9:51into advanced nurse practitioners.
- 9:53They can be peer support. Really making sure
- 9:56that,
- 9:56our youth
- 9:58understand how they can deliver in a sense
- 10:00of purpose in their career by engaging in
- 10:02behavioral
- 10:03health. There's such a shortage. We need to
- 10:05be out there spending and investing in getting
- 10:07that visibility and making sure people have the
- 10:10resources they need to join the workforce.
- 10:13That makes a lot of sense. And, you
- 10:15know, it it's really great to have that
- 10:17type of emphasis and investment on the people
- 10:19who are making the difference, the workforce, and
- 10:21then to just having the technology,
- 10:24open and available, I I think is a
- 10:25good call. Now before we wrap up here,
- 10:27I'm wondering where do you see the best
- 10:29opportunities for growth in the future? What are
- 10:31you emphasizing
- 10:33at Children's Nebraska?
- 10:36We're really investing and pushing the delivery systems
- 10:38into the community and ensuring that the point
- 10:41of care is where families and and and
- 10:43children are. So that
- 10:45right now is this focus on integrating mental
- 10:47health into the school system.
- 10:50We would need to make that ease of
- 10:51access there and integrating clinicians, but also just
- 10:55creating the visibility and importance of mental health
- 10:58wherever we go. We need mental health services
- 11:00inside the schools so kids can see that
- 11:02seeking intervention early
- 11:04is part of just our culture and also
- 11:07that prevents the progression of diseases
- 11:10and helps the families to really develop resiliency
- 11:13and wellness practices too.
- 11:15And and that, I think is going to
- 11:17transform our future when when people access care
- 11:20early, can talk about them their mental health
- 11:23as a part of,
- 11:24whole person health and,
- 11:26decreasing stigma. So it's very exciting to see
- 11:29that many,
- 11:30many states and organizations are investing back in
- 11:33those services being truly integrated at the point
- 11:36the community needs them the most.
- 11:40That's amazing to hear. Renee, thank you so
- 11:41much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 11:43This has been a fascinating discussion, and I
- 11:45look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 11:48Thank you so much. Such a great discussion.