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Chinese Illegal Fishing Decimates the Oceans, DSA Lunatics Grow Stronger & the DNC is Broke · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's so nice to have you with us wherever you
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  Speaker 2: are listening to us around the country and Center. We've
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  Speaker 2: got a big show today, including China yet again being
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  Speaker 2: accused of not playing by the rules, having a shadow
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  Speaker 2: fleet of fishing boats that are not a few, a
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  Speaker 2: lot that are destroying international waters and hurting so many
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  Speaker 2: other countries.
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  Speaker 3: Well, on today's podcast, we're going to talk to you
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  Speaker 3: about Chinese communists, We're going to talk to you about
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  Speaker 3: American communists, and then we're going to talk to you
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  Speaker 3: about the Democratic National Committee. And you will notice there
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  Speaker 3: is a thread that connects them all. But let's start
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  Speaker 3: with the Chikoms. Let's start with the Chinese Communist Party.
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  Speaker 3: We all know the horrible.
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  Speaker 4: Things they do.
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  Speaker 3: We know the murders, the tortures, the concentration camps, the genocide,
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  Speaker 3: the lying, the producing COVID virus and causing massive damage
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  Speaker 3: to the world and covering it up. All of those
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  Speaker 3: are a given. But you know what you made. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: didn't know that China is responsible for one of the
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  Speaker 3: greatest ecological disasters across the globe and a systemic theft
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  Speaker 3: in the oceans, and it's something that's called illegal, unreported
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  Speaker 3: and unregulated fishing. I you you as the acronym. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party has a distant water fishing fleet.
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  Speaker 3: How big do you think their fleet is that does
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  Speaker 3: distant water fishing in other words, not around China. It's
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  Speaker 3: not fishing around China, it's fishing on the other side
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  Speaker 3: of the world. How big do you think their fleet is?
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  Speaker 2: I mean fifty ships, sixty ships would be my guess.
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  Speaker 3: It is somewhere between two thousand vessels and sixteen thousand vessels.
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  Speaker 2: And they engage way the fact we don't know, as
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  Speaker 2: you just mentioned and tells you how big the fleet is.
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  Speaker 3: It is a massive number. It's engaged in theft. But
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  Speaker 3: it's illegal fishing at a scale that constitutes ecoside combined
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  Speaker 3: with gross human rights violations. And so this is an
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  Speaker 3: issue I've been involved with a long time and trying
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  Speaker 3: to urge the federal government to use the tools we
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  Speaker 3: have to stop this massive illegal fishing. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: this illegal fishing, it happens in the Gulf of America,
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  Speaker 3: it happens in the Atlantic Ocean, it happens all around Africa,
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  Speaker 3: does massive damages to Africa. It happens in and around
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  Speaker 3: South America, it happens in the Indian Ocean, it happens
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  Speaker 3: all over the globe. And the consequence of it, it
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  Speaker 3: is subsidized by billions of dollars from the People's Republic
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  Speaker 3: of China. Between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: Chinese illegal fishing accounted for forty four percent of global
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  Speaker 3: fishing all over the world. Forty four percent, nearly half.
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  Speaker 1: You just said illegal.
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  Speaker 2: So that's outside of their quote legal fishing they're doing
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  Speaker 2: in and around.
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  Speaker 3: China, Yes, measuring at least one hundred and ten million
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  Speaker 3: hours of fishing in more than ninety countries. And by
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  Speaker 3: the way, not only do they engage in illegal fishing,
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  Speaker 3: they also kill hundreds of critically endangered animals, including sharks, whales, dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: They've destroyed tens of thousands of acres of coral reefs.
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  Speaker 3: And they use forced laborers, so they've got slave labor
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  Speaker 3: that they put on the boats. That's who's doing the
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  Speaker 3: illegal fishing. Are are people who are enslaved and they're
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  Speaker 3: subjected to physical abuse, malnutrition, over work, and withheld pay.
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  Speaker 3: In many instances for years, and so it is an
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  Speaker 3: enormous challenge and one that I've had real progress fighting with.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot more that we can and need to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's incredible. We're going to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about the craziness happening with
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialist of America one hundred days out from
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  Speaker 2: the midterms, and also the DNC Democratic National they're broke.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have all that for you coming up
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  Speaker 2: in a moment. Before we get to that, I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to you a moment about what you can
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  Speaker 2: do in simply praying for the people right now that
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  Speaker 1: They do not.
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  Speaker 2: and Hesblad continues its attacks in the North, forcing families
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  Speaker 2: her people, she is standing on the front lines against
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  Speaker 1: Even when the news crews leave.
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  Speaker 2: Israel, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, they remain.
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  Speaker 2: Every day they are on the ground, providing life saving
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  Speaker 2: recently struck the home of Yolina. She was widowed earlier
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  Speaker 2: remained displaced. It's hard these days, she said, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to leave, and honestly, why should she have
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  Speaker 2: want to go back to you mentioned Africa a moment ago,
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  Speaker 2: and this is one of the things that's really come
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  Speaker 2: out of this story is when you have a fleet
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  Speaker 2: that is as large as as the Chinese Communist Party does,
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  Speaker 2: and they're all over the world, and they're doing all
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  Speaker 2: this illegal fishing twenty four to seven and using slave
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  Speaker 2: labor to do it. They're also destroying the fishing around
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  Speaker 2: many people who desperately need it for survival. And when
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  Speaker 2: I say survival, I'm talking about life and death. Africa
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  Speaker 2: is one of the countries they've targeted off there, off there,
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  Speaker 2: you know, off their their shoreline, and it is having
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  Speaker 2: it's decimating their local fishing, which is survival. Not only
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  Speaker 2: for the food, right because that food's not going to
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  Speaker 2: Africa when they catch us fish, they're going back to
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  Speaker 2: the international market. They're not taking back to shore like
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  Speaker 2: the local fishermen do. But also it's putting countless fishermen
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  Speaker 2: out of work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, it's it's a huge problem from food supply,
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  Speaker 3: especially in Africa where you have many countries that are
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  Speaker 3: struggling have significant problems with food and security and hunger.
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  Speaker 3: It also means the jobs of the local African fishermen
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  Speaker 3: are imperiled because you have the Chinese stealing their fish.
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  Speaker 3: They overfish it, so they destroy the fishing population. So
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  Speaker 3: not only are they denying them food and denying them
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  Speaker 3: jobs now, but if you responsibly fish, it's a sustainable
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  Speaker 3: harvest and you can keep on fishing and keep on fishing.
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  Speaker 3: The Chinese don't get dam and they will fish a
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  Speaker 3: population out of existence and they'll just move on. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's almost like locusts descending and just consuming everything,
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  Speaker 3: so they don't engage in responsible fishing. Look, you and
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  Speaker 3: I both live in Texas. There are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Texans who are fishermen. There's a big commercial fishing operation
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  Speaker 3: in Texas, whether it's shrimpers or red snapper. It's an
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  Speaker 3: important part of our economy. But it is it is
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  Speaker 3: understandably and necessarily regulated because if you overfish a population,
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  Speaker 3: it goes away and you destroy the ability to keep
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  Speaker 3: going back and fishing it. We have this problem the
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  Speaker 3: Gulf of America with Mexicans, many of whom are funded
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  Speaker 3: by the Mexican drug cartels, using illegal lanchas to come
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  Speaker 3: up and fish red snapper. And in fact they fish
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  Speaker 3: snapper from the Gulf of America, they do it illegally,
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  Speaker 3: they steal it, they take it back down to Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: they smuggle into the United States and they sell it
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  Speaker 3: here and pretend it's domestic cot And so it is
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  Speaker 3: an other form of theft that tends to be more
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  Speaker 3: of the Mexican drug cartels, where they'll get local Mexican
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  Speaker 3: fishermen and literally put a gun to their head and say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: go get us some snapper in violation of the laws.
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  Speaker 3: The Chinese provide funds for that as well. But look
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  Speaker 3: in and around the United States, we have the Coastguard,
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  Speaker 3: we have our military, We're able to do a pretty
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  Speaker 3: good job of guarding our waters. In a continent like
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  Speaker 3: Africa that the nations there, their coastguards and navy are
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  Speaker 3: just just much much smaller, so they have very limited
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  Speaker 3: ability to counteract it. And the same is true around
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  Speaker 3: South America where you see the Chinese taking advantage. Again.
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  Speaker 3: And let me talk about the mechanics of how you
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  Speaker 3: fight this, because this is it's interesting and complicated. Look, normally,
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  Speaker 3: if you deal with a fleet that is doing something illegal,
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  Speaker 3: you would sanction them out of existence. So to run
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  Speaker 3: a fleet, you need flagging, you need findancing, you need insurance,
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  Speaker 3: you need fuel, you need port services, you need customers
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  Speaker 3: willing to purchase goods. You need crews, and the crews
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  Speaker 3: themselves need food and medical care. So you can impose
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  Speaker 3: sanctions on an illegal fleet and shut them down. Now
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  Speaker 3: how does a Chinese fleet get around that? Well, ordinarily,
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  Speaker 3: when a ship is out at sea, they keep what's
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  Speaker 3: called their AIS, their automatic identification system turned on. It's
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  Speaker 3: essentially the way everyone else can spot them, so that
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  Speaker 3: you know if an illegal ship, if the USS ben
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  Speaker 3: Ferguson is out fishing illegally, you can go see the
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  Speaker 3: AIS and you can go in and addict them. Well,
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  Speaker 3: what the Chinese do is they turn their AIS off
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  Speaker 3: and so you're not able to spot them. And you
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  Speaker 3: look at the capacity sixteen thousand ships with their AIS
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  Speaker 3: af so you can't spot them. And the way they
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  Speaker 3: make this operate is they have an elaborate hub and
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  Speaker 3: spoke system. So they have fishing vessels that are out fishing,
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  Speaker 3: they have their AIS off so you can't see them.
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  Speaker 3: But then to make the fleet operate, they have refrigerated
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  Speaker 3: reefers that collect the catches at sea and sell them
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  Speaker 3: in bulk. And they have to keep their AIS on
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  Speaker 3: because the illegal fishing vessels all have to know where
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  Speaker 3: to go to drop off their catch. They also have
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  Speaker 3: tankers that refuel the fishing vessels, so they have a
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  Speaker 3: big tanker and the illegal fishing vessels will get up,
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  Speaker 3: refill and go back to fish. And on top of that,
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  Speaker 3: they have floating bases which provide the crews with their
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  Speaker 3: medical care and other services. And so what I have
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  Speaker 3: been leading the fight to do is to go after
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  Speaker 3: the refrigerated reefers, the tankers, and the floating bases with
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  Speaker 3: medical care. Because those support vessels can be sanctions. They
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  Speaker 3: have to keep their ais on or the sixteen thousand
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  Speaker 3: vessels can't figure out where they are and they're limited number.
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  Speaker 3: So fifty five accounted for nearly half of the shipping.
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  Speaker 3: Ten tankers represented sixty one percent of all global bunkering activities.
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  Speaker 3: And so we have the ability by targeting those support
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  Speaker 3: vessels to cripple the illegal fishing. Now, now here's where
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  Speaker 3: it gets frustrating. Last year when we were passing the
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  Speaker 3: Working Family's tax cut. As we talked about in this
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  Speaker 3: podcast before, the way a big reconciliation bill works is
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  Speaker 3: each committee chairman is responsible for writing the portion of
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  Speaker 3: the bill that is within your committee's jurisdiction. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: the chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
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  Speaker 3: We have jurisdiction over about forty percent of the US
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  Speaker 3: economy that includes the Coastguard. So I wrote the entire
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  Speaker 3: title on the Coast Guard that is within the Reconciliation Bill,
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  Speaker 3: and we ended up providing twenty and a half billion
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  Speaker 3: dollars in funding for the Coastguard. That is the single
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  Speaker 3: largest investment in the Coast Guard in American history, and
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  Speaker 3: it is having massive positive benefits, including we are now
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  Speaker 3: bringing ship making back to America. I was at the
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  Speaker 3: groundbreaking for Davy ship building in Galveston, Texas a billion
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  Speaker 3: and a half dollars where they're going to build Arctic
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  Speaker 3: ice cutters so that we can compete with China and
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  Speaker 3: compete with the Russians in the Arctic. We're right now
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  Speaker 3: getting our tails whipped. But the funding stream that we
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  Speaker 3: put in place for the Coast Guard enables us to
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  Speaker 3: sign contracts. By the way, we also had a huge
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  Speaker 3: announcement ben just last week Saronic, which we've talked about before.
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  Speaker 3: Saronic is the drone company based in Austin that builds
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  Speaker 3: naval drones, that builds drones from little ones to big ones.
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  Speaker 3: Remember we covered on this podcast how Saronic sent drones
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  Speaker 3: to rescue the two Apache pilots who were shot down
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  Speaker 3: over Iran, and also Saronic drones were us militarily to
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  Speaker 3: attack Iranian facilities. Well, Saronic was just in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of a big decision about where to build their brand
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  Speaker 3: new shipyard, and the choice was Texas or Californian. They
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  Speaker 3: were going back and forth, back and forth. They have
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  Speaker 3: significant facilities in California. Two, you will not be surprised
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  Speaker 3: to know Number one, I weighed in vigorously on that question,
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  Speaker 3: and my views were not subtle or difficult to understand,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm very glad to say they made exactly the
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  Speaker 3: right choice. So Saronic is building a brand new shipyard
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  Speaker 3: in Brownsville, Texas, right on the water. Three and a
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  Speaker 3: half billion dollars. So all of this ship building is
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  Speaker 3: coming to Texas, and it's a direct result of what
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  Speaker 3: we did in the Working Family's tax cut that I
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  Speaker 3: was able to write in the funding to provide for this. Well,
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  Speaker 3: also as a part of that, I specifically allocated to
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  Speaker 3: the Coastguard one hundred and seventy million dollars for marine
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  Speaker 3: domain awareness that was to fight this Chinese illegal fishing,
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  Speaker 3: so that we would know where the reefers are, know
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  Speaker 3: where the tankers are know where the medical ships are.
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  Speaker 3: That one hundred and seventy million dollars would have given
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  Speaker 3: the Coastguard the tools to shut much of this down. Now,
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  Speaker 3: this is where the story gets frustrating. We wrote that
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  Speaker 3: in law it was specifically designated to go to marine
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  Speaker 3: domain awareness. You know what happened.
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  Speaker 1: What happened, They let me gees. Somebody took it from you.
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  Speaker 3: DHS took the money go and allocated it to the
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  Speaker 3: World Cup instead. And they can do that, right, No, No,
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  Speaker 3: actually they can't. The law was very clear they can't
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  Speaker 3: do that. They did it, And listen, World Cup security
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  Speaker 3: is important. I don't dispute that having security at the
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  Speaker 3: World Cup was important, but the law was very clear
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  Speaker 3: that that money was designated for marine domain awareness to
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  Speaker 3: fight a very real problem of Chinese illegal fishing that
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  Speaker 3: is destroying entire fish populations, that is doing massive damage
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  Speaker 3: to the environment, that is hurting jobs, and that is
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  Speaker 3: continuing completely unabated right now. So listen my commitment. I
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  Speaker 3: just just this week wrote this letter here joined by
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  Speaker 3: nine other Senators to the Treasury Secretary, calling on the
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  Speaker 3: Treasury Secretary to sanction these vessels. And you could actually
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  Speaker 3: see in the letter. I identify quite quite a few
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  Speaker 3: of these vessels by name. I give their their specifics,
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  Speaker 3: and so the known Chinese supply vessels, I lay out
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  Speaker 3: where they're flagged, their name and all their information, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm calling on Treasury to sanction them. We're also going
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  Speaker 3: to get that one hundred and seventy million back, and
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  Speaker 3: so I'm irritated DHS did that, but we're going to
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  Speaker 3: get that money and make sure it goes where it belongs,
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  Speaker 3: which is to maritime domain awareness.
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  Speaker 2: Final question on this, I took the boy fishing up
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  Speaker 2: and if you've ever watched the TV show Wicked Tuna,
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  Speaker 2: we went to the same port where a lot of
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  Speaker 2: those ships come out of. And one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that was interesting was the guy that took us out
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  Speaker 2: fishing for summer vacation said that the tuna have moved
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  Speaker 2: and it's much harder for than to fish compared to
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  Speaker 2: what it used to be. Is that possibly because they
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  Speaker 2: just said things have changed and there's not as much
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  Speaker 2: there used to be?
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  Speaker 1: Is part of that?
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  Speaker 2: Because of what we're witnessing. I mean, it's not just
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  Speaker 2: Africa it's being affected. It also is the United States
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  Speaker 2: of America.
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  Speaker 3: It is the Atlantic and Pacific as well. And it
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  Speaker 3: absolutely this is a worldwide problem. You're looking at roughly
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  Speaker 3: half of fishing that's occurring in the world is Chinese
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  Speaker 3: illegal fishing, and it's doing massive damage. And it's not
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  Speaker 3: only illegal, but it's deliberately irresponsible. It's you know, and
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  Speaker 3: this goes back to the principle. Look, do you know
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  Speaker 3: who cares the most about preserving fish population?
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  Speaker 2: I would have assume fishermen because they don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be out of a job next year, right.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And the principle is the same, Like when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to conserving wildlife species, hunters are among the most
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  Speaker 3: vigorous conservationists. You know, I'm friends with Ted Dujin. Ted
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  Speaker 3: Ted lights up my phone texting all of these stories
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  Speaker 3: about Look, hunters want to preserve biodiversity. They want now
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  Speaker 3: they like to hunt the animals. But that means Look,
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  Speaker 3: if there is a hunting market, there is incentive to
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  Speaker 3: preserve and protect the species and grow the population. You
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  Speaker 3: actually see this in different African countries. The African countries
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  Speaker 3: that have prohibited safari hunting, they end up having their
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  Speaker 3: populations dwindle mightily because there's no economic value in preserving
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  Speaker 3: the species. Whereas those African countries that allow safari hunting,
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  Speaker 3: that they regulate it, that they sell. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: buy a tag to hunt a particular species. Suddenly that
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  Speaker 3: species has economic value, and so the park are preserve
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  Speaker 3: where they are. They invest real money in stop stopping poachers,
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  Speaker 3: in protecting the animals, and you see the population grows.
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  Speaker 3: It's a basic principle that if you have a property
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  Speaker 3: rights system that allocates value to something, then there's an
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  Speaker 3: incentive to protect it. If nobody has value on something,
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  Speaker 3: then you end up having what the Chinese are doing,
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  Speaker 3: which is just they would fish it till there were
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  Speaker 3: no more fish in the world, and they just don't
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  Speaker 3: give a.
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  Speaker 2: Damn And then they've moved on to something else, like
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't care. They don't care if they extinct tune
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  Speaker 2: or any other fish. They just say, move on next.
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  Speaker 2: What can we do, What can we destroy and capture
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  Speaker 2: now for our personal gain.
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  Speaker 1: It is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, these are the same fishermen that
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  Speaker 3: also do shark finning, which is a particularly grotesque process
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  Speaker 3: where you catch a shark and you pull it up
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  Speaker 3: and you just cut the fin, the dorsal fin off
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  Speaker 3: and in Chinese cuisine that's considered a delicacy. I think
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: it's supposed to be an aphrodisiac and have all sorts
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: of medicinal qualities. But they cut the fin off and
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: then throw the shark back, and the shark diyes like
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  Speaker 3: without thin the shark bleeds and dies, and they don't
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  Speaker 3: care about how many animals they kill.
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  Speaker 2: The same with whaling. They have no problem with whaling. Yes,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: at least the wailing is huge for China.
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  Speaker 3: It is a massive problem, and so I am fighting
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  Speaker 3: hard to end it because it's the responsible thing to do,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: from the environment, from preserving wildlife populations, from jobs, and
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: from food security across the globe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great point. We're going to keep you
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: update on the story. It's an important one. I want
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to move.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: We are one hundred days out from the midterms, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: if you thought the Democratic Party was going to make
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a course correction with the Democratic Socialists of America, uh,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: you would be wrong. We are now witnessing this midterm
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  Speaker 2: election center. The best way I can describe it, it
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: is a Democratic Socialist midterm and the Democratic Party is
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a part of it. They are involved in it, but
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: they're not calling the shots at this point. It is
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Socialist and the candidates that is the midterms.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here listen to to left Wag journalist Steve Karnaki
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: described the current state of affairs.
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  Speaker 5: We've been seeing it in the primary season, socialists winning
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Democratic primaries, candidates from the far left. And look at
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: this here among Democrats, this is that Fox pool. A
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: majority have a favorable view of socialism. Step outside the
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: Democratic Party, it's a totally different world. Look at Independence,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Socialism deeply unpopular there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: This is interesting views of socialism Democrats fifty two percent favorable,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: forty three percent unfavorable. It's what you and I have
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: been saying for a long time. I think the Democratic
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Party is dead. I think it is Marxist socialism and communists.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: They use the word democrat does not scare too many
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: people off. But this midterm is absolutely this agenda.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, and that clip. If you guys are not watching
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: the video on YouTube, you will not have seen it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: But the more general polling for the American people on
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: socialism socialism seventy seven percent unpopular, thirteen percent favorable. So
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: among normal people that includes Republicans and Independence, they're like, no,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: we don't want socialism. And let's be clear, even socialism
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: is a euphemism. These people are Marxists, They're outright communists.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I want you to listen right now to the co
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: chair of the DSA, the Democrats Socialists of America, explaining
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: their radical agenda. Give a listen to the DSA co chair.
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  Speaker 4: So we're going to put up on the screen a
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  Speaker 4: few of the things that are part of your platform,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: and I want to ask you just give me sort
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: of a true false on these. Abolish the Senate, true okay.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Replace the Presidency and Supreme Court as we now know them. Yep.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Abolish ice. Absolutely, abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: currently in the US illegally as a long term plan.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Defund the Pentagon. Absolutely, abolish prisons, at least in large part.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah again, that is part of a long term program.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah okay.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: So no government or public ownership of most large corporations. Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You listen to that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And I got to give them credit. I love when
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: people in politics don't lie. It's very refreshing. This is
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: who they are. When they tell you who they are,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: center believe them.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: They're not lying to you.
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  Speaker 3: Look these are people that want to rip the Constitution
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to shreds. They want to abolish the presidency, they want
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: to abolish the Senate. They want to abolish the Supreme Court.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: So there's nothing protecting your rights. You have no rights
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: in their world, understand, abolishing the Supreme Court. That means
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: they can do anything you want, and you don't have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: free speech, you don't have religious liberty, you don't have
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: a Second Amendment. The government is in charge of everything.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: That's what they believe now. They also want to abolish
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the Pentagon. So we have no military, we're unable to
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: defend ourselves. That means the Chinese and the Russians and
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Hamas and Hesbal and every terrorist on Earth can run
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: all over us, and we have no military. We can't
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: defend ourselves. They want to abolish ice. We're not able
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: to enforce our borders, which is okay, because they want
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: to abolish borders. They want to say anyone on planet
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Earth that wants to come to America can come to America.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: They want to grant amnesty and American citizenship to every
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: illegal person here, so that every left wing radical everyone
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: has broken the law, every every human trafficker, every gang member.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: All of them are the people who vote, and they
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: want to close down prisons. So they want murderers and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: rapists and child molesters living right next to you. And
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: mind you, they're no police because they've abolished the police.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: So let all the murderers go and eliminate the police.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: And then and then, to be clear, this is why
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I said these people are communists. They also Shannon, I'll
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: give her credit. She asked to you want the federal
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: government to own most big companies in America. She said yes,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: So whatever company you work for, guess what, you just
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: become a federal government employee because the government seizes all
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: of the companies. Now, these young people are too ignorant
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: to know that what they're proposing has been implemented. It
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: has been implemented in the Soviet Union, it's been implemented
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: in Cambodia. It's been implemented in Vietnam. It's been implemented
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: in Cuba, it's been implemented in North Korea. It's been implemented,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: although with a twist, in China, and every place it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: been implemented, it's been an absolute disaster. It doesn't work.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: And here's what happens. You have massive human rights abuses.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yep. You have people every time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: In prisoned, tortured, murdered, you have genocide, You have concentration camps.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Right now, the Chinese communists have concentration camps with over
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: one million weekers, over one million people held in concentration camps.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Right now.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: The DSA wants to turn America into the equivalent of China,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the same sort of government. And when it comes to look,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: they don't know or they don't care, because it is
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: all about power. And by the way, you know what,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: these DSA guys just like you, you know the Black
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Lives Matter, who are also a Marxist organization, a communist organization.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: They raise lots of money, many of them from useful
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: idiots on the left and in big companies that wrote
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: checks and a bunch of giant American companies that wrote
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: checks to Black Lives Matter, who then used to try
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to destroy the capitalist system and moves us towards a
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Marxist system where the government takes over their companies. But
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: you know what, the people running DSA or Black Lives Matter,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: they tend to live in multimillion dollar mansions. They're stealing
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the money like blind And I'll give them credit for
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: that in this they are real communists because that's the
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: same thing Putin does. That's the same thing she does.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: That's the same thing Castro does. That's the same thing
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Kim Jong un does. Look, in communism you have billionaires.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: The only billionaires though, are the ones with the machine
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: guns that are robbing the people. And actually there's a
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: reason we connected these two stories. Ask yourself, how does
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the Chinese fishing fleet behave Do they demonstrate any responsibility,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: do they demonstrate any concern about the environment, Do they
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: demonstrate any concern about people who need jobs, about people
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: who are hungry, about people who'd like a living or
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: do they act purely as rapacious theeves? And I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: that tells you where these radicals want the Democrat Party
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: to go and where they want America to go.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Well, and if you want to know how much the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Democratic sources of America have a hold right now on
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, this is abnormal going into a mid
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: terms that people understand. Usually the party that is out
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: of power the people that support them. Whether you're a
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Republican or Democratic, you're in the minority, you usually have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of fundraising because then you say, Okay, now
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: my ideals are under threat. I'm no longer taking them
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for granted. This other side has got power, we want
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: to get it back. And usually you have a surge
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: in fundraising. It is typical to see the party out
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of power have a great amount of cash come in
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: once they're ideals, what they believe in, or under attack.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: The Democratic National Committee does not have the money. In fact,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: we're now being told that going into the midterms, their
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: in essence completely broke.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and our source for that is admittedly
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a very right wing outlet. So you've got to take
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: what they say with a grain of salt. And that
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: would of course be the New York Times and the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: New York Times. I want to read from the beginning
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: of the article inside the phone throwing drama at the
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: troubled broke Democratic Party. The Democrat should be well positioned
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to make gains in this year's midterms, but inside party
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: headquarters every week brings paranoia, worries about money, and on occasion,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: emotional eruptions. The Democratic Party is so short on cash
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: that leaders at its headquarters have undertaken a new gambit
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to mass the severity of problems, asking vendors not to
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: send bills until after the midterm elections. The bookkeeping maneuver,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: which was described by three people briefed on it, is
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: the latest sign of financial duress for the DNC, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: it's as it's embattled leader, as money troubles threatened to
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: undercut Democratic momentum with one hundred days until the mid terms.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: And to give you a sense of the money differential directly,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: here's what the New York Times says. The Democratic Party
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: and its allies are far beyond Republicans when it comes
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: to money. Mister Trump controls a four hundred million dollar
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: superpack and the Republican National Committee is sitting on nearly
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty million dollars. Where's the DNC two
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: million dollars in debt? Wow? When you have the New
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: York Times saying what in the hell is going on
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: with you people? You know it goes on to say trusted.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Mister Martin, the head of the DNC, was sapped by
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: his handling of a long promise autopsy of the twenty
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: twenty four election. Late last year. He said he would
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: not release the docum, but then his criticism mounted he
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: released an incomplete draft that featured searing annotations from the
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: DNC that undermined the report. Now, mister Martin is both
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: paralyzed by the idea of leaks and surrounded by them.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: During a May meeting with the full staff of the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: DNC days after the drafts autopsy's release, he admitted that
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: times were tough, and he chided his team for revealing
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: the reporters what was happening inside party headquarters. Quote. It
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: pisses me off when I see leaks out of this building.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: No more, mister Martin said, he saw a lot of
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: down faces and people hanging their heads. Keep your heads up,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: keep a smile on. My success is your success. So
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the weaker, I am the weaker. All of you are, well,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: what kind of manager it is this fellow? Let me
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: tell you, well, this is clearly someone who knows how
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to watch his pennies. Here's another quote from the New
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: York Times article, the single biggest expense of the Martin era.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: What do you think that was?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Ben?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with private jets just because I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: know how much I'd say we love those private jets
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: in the DNC.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I have every certainty of the private jet bill is massive,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: but that was not the single biggest expenditure. The single
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: biggest expenditure was seven point three million dollars to buy
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the remnants of Kamala Harris's campaign list from her failed
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four bid. Miss harris Political Action Committee then
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: used that money to cover additional remaining debts. So that's
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: his biggest expenditure is bailing out Kamala Harris's bankrupt campaign
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: rather than actually trying to win elections going forward. And
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: here's a little more about his very gentle experience management style.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Another paragraph from The New York Times, mister Martin's fraying
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: nerves are showing. In a peak of frustration in early July,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: he threw his phone at the desk of a junior
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: aid while upbraiding the person. The phone tossing in resulted
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: in a formal complaint to the DNC's human resources department.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: The fallout from the phone throwing episode was described by
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: half a dozen people familiar with the incident, who spoke
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: to discuss internal party matters. None of them witnessed the account,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and there was some dispute over how aggressively the phone
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: was tossed. Mister Martin was said to have thrown the
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: phone at the desk.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Rather than the aid oh there you go, that makest.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: There you go. You know what, somehow I've managed to
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: live fifty five years on planet Earth, to work at
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different offices, to work with a lot
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of people that have a lot of people working for me.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I've magically managed to refrain from from throwing a phone
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: at anybody. And you know, I got to says at
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: at a desk. I've got to say, it hasn't been difficult.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I think the only thing I've ever thrown at anyone
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: who works for me is I have thrown a nerf basketball.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: So if that counts, please guilty to that. But but
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: but when it comes to like not throwing hard metal
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: objects at your employees, that does not take massive restraint.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it doesn't. It doesn't a boost morale.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's incredible that is the Democratic Party.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Although although I do need to, I do need to
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: come clean. Although I haven't thrown anything at one, young Benjamin.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: This is this is true. You have broken bones.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: I have, in fact broken his finger, so so so
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Folks there it is.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: You see the crookedness there, folks, you see I just
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: want everybody watching to see that is not straight anymore.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: That is a Ted Cruz broken bone right there.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: And it's just to clear that. Look, it's important to
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: acknowledge that you have this, you know, big strapping division
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: one college athlete. This like study. And if you don't
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: know how Studeley is, give Ben a minute. He'll tell
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: you how Studeley is. He's very proud of being a
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Division one college athlete, and he's playing hoops with little
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: old me, a college debater, And I'm just saying the
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: consequence of playing hoops is his bones are broken.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And when you're losing, Ted doesn't play fair. That's what
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I learned from that. When you're losing, Ted doesn't play fair.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And this is what happens. It's crooked for life.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: It's so you're admitting to our listeners that not only
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: did your finger get broken, but you also lost that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think so that was broken?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: No, No, I think.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Lies.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Do you want to know what I keep on my desk?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: This is the true story. So we were in Austin,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: we were playing the game. This is the remnants of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the tape that is still left that I used to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: tape said finger together, the crooked finger right there, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: keep playing an entire another game. So I kept it
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: as it. I just you know, that's just that's that's
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Well, be Ben, just Ben, just don't ever say I
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: never gave you anything.
• 33:49
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