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Chapter 1: Our First Guest · On the Same Page: A KCPL Podcast

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  Good morning, evening, good afternoon, good wherever you are.
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  It's that time again.
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  It's episode two of On the Same Page, a KCPL podcast.
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  I'm Evan.
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  And I'm Tanya.
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  And we are your co-hosts of this new adventure.
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  Today we're going to start out by first saying thank you for listening.
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  We've been following some of the statistics, some of the metrics it tells us, how many
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  people have listened, how many people have interacted with our website and things like
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  that.
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  And so thank you all for listening.
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  This has been a fun start.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm so excited for episode two.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Well, we actually went overboard after we recorded the last one.
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  We have plans out for months from now.
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  So we're excited about this.
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  We are dreaming.
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  And we hope you're excited.
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  And we hope you're enjoying this because this is something we didn't really talk about
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  last time.
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  But this is our first podcast for either one of us.
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  Like we are learning on the fly as we go.
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  This is new.
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  So thank you for listening, being along for that adventure part of it because we're learning.
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  So yes.
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  And I've even heard someone mentioned that I talked about a book last time and they read
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  it and they enjoyed it.
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  Gosh, I love that.
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  Listen, if you're listening and you talk to your library staff member and they recommend
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  a book, if you love it, let them know because that's always like job well done.
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  Well, we love hearing that.
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  If you don't like it, you don't have to tell us that.
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  Do you remember one book people liked from the last podcast?
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  Yes, it was Elton John's biography that he wrote.
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  And Taryn Egerton read the audio book and I mentioned that and someone listened to the
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  audio version.
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  And really enjoyed it.
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  So that was the book I talked about last time.
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  Just in passing.
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  Yeah, that's great.
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  And someone listened.
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  Always love to hear that.
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  So last time when we did the podcast, it was just me and Tanya because it was for you all
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  to get to know us and who we are and what we do.
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  But on the episodes, we're going to have guests pretty much each time.
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  That's kind of the plan and the goal to always have a guest to join.
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  So today's guest is Noelle Robinson from our teen department downtown, runs teens across
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  the system.
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  And that's kind of her thing.
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  So Noelle, how's it going?
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  Pretty good.
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  Thank you all for having me.
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  I'm excited to be doing this.
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  And I'm the first guest.
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  It makes me feel very special.
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  Yeah, no pressure, right?
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  You're the first guest.
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  No pressure.
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  There's no pressure.
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  Oh, no, no, no.
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  But since we're talking about, you know, SLC and it's that time of year, we figured it
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  would be good to have you on because teens in the summer are a big part of what what
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  we do for SLC.
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  So do you want to tell us a little bit about what you do and your job like that kind of
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  like your day to day before we get into talking about what what we're going to talk about?
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  So my day to day is never boring.
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  I have a lot of interesting things I'm a part of.
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  I work in the makerspace and the teen zone.
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  So I know all the equipment in the makerspace at Maine.
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  Not always as well as my colleagues do, but I try my best.
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  I hold my own.
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  So I work desk over there a lot.
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  I work desk in teen zone.
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  A lot of my day just looks like having conversations with teens that come in, whether that's about
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  not normally something they read every once in a while.
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  But typically it's about, you know, just how the day went.
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  But we also have a lot of programs going on here at Maine and we have like four drop in.
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  So once a week here.
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  So always busy, always have something going on.
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  We have gaming systems here.
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  So I do a lot of trying to fix issues that occur in our gaming systems.
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  For example, rock band right now is out of order at Maine, which makes me very sad because
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  teens love to come in and play rock band on our PlayStation 2.
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  The discs aren't reading correctly.
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  So, you know, that's the type of thing I've got going on every once in a while.
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  It's nothing like any other job I've ever had.
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  I will say that.
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  Well, I mean, it sounds good that it's definitely never boring.
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  There's always something different.
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  I love the vibe in the teen zone, like the sofas and it's a, it would be a fun place
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  to just sit and hang out too, I think.
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  Yeah.
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  We have a lot of adults that'll try and sneak in and they're like, this is like the most
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  comfortable seating at Maine.
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  And I'm like, ah, sorry, 12 to 18.
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  Yeah.
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  Like we know it's comfortable, but it's not.
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  It's a teen zone.
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  It's saved for them.
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  So came down to pet the kittens that one day.
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  Yeah.
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  That's when I got to come down and hang out there.
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  It's so nice down there.
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  It's very cool.
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  I think we keep a good vibe going.
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  I know if I was a teen, I would enjoy being there.
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  And that's the perfect segue.
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  We're going to talk about, since we're talking about all things teen today, I want to talk
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  about what we were like when we were teenagers and what that looked like.
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  We're going to go back in the past and think about what we were when we were teenagers.
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  So who wants to dive into that first?
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  I'm the teen services librarian.
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  So let's just rip that bandaid off Swift, huh?
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  Yes.
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  I feel like the teens who come in the teen zone are a lot cooler than I was when I was
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  a kid.
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  I always looked like, oh gosh, probably four years younger than I was at any given point.
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  So I definitely had a lot of fitting in issues, but I think that's pretty common of librarians
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  not to make a sweeping gesture here, but like, you know, we are bookish kids often in the
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  corner of the library, you know, so that, you know, that was me.
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  I did.
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  I spent a lot of time outside for someone who then went into library services.
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  I feel like probably, oh gosh, every day I was running around.
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  I lived on like 70 acres of land at some point.
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  So I was a wild child.
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  I grew up with a lot of siblings too.
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  So my experience has been just so weird and interesting.
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  And I think that's why I like to see and hear the stories of other kids that come in because
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  we're all so different and we've grown up in so different ways.
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  Yeah.
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  But I definitely had phase in high school.
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  Like my first year of high school was really hard on me going to name drop mental health
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  awareness month here, but I had definitely like a depressive low and being in the library
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  every morning at school got me through that.
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  Like I was in there reading Lord of the Rings and just like, you know, enjoying my solitude
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  and things got up, went up from there.
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  So good moral to the story.
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  Things get better.
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  Things always get better.
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  And Lord of the Rings is such an inspiring set of books, so.
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  Right?
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  It's so good.
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  It's so long that there was plenty of content for me to consume for over the whole year.
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  So nice, nice.
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  I'll go.
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  I'll go next.
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  So me as a teenager, let's see, as most teenagers are, you know, I was a complicated individual.
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  So when it comes to like school and things like that, I was super quiet.
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  I did not have a lot of friends.
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  I was not very social at school.
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  I kept to myself like people who knew me in school and then see me now are like I'm different,
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  but not really, because behind the scenes, I all of my friends, I did not go to school
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  with.
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  They were all near where my grandparents lived, not where I lived.
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  So I didn't go to school with them.
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  So I didn't really talk to anybody.
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  I kind of kept to myself.
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  I was that total like, you know, bookish kid in a corner.
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  And then when I got around my friends and then other people who knew me in other lights,
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  like I was just this extroverted life of the party, super chill, enjoyed being around other
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  people and enjoyed making people laugh, you know, a lot like what I try to be today was
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  that's how I was then.
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  But people who went to school with me would have never known that.
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  So I had like two different worlds I kind of operated in.
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  I guess at this point, you guys would have seen some of the pictures that have submitted
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  of me as a teen.
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  And they're from events and things where I was around my friends.
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  And you will see that I'm not the quiet in the corner kid.
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  But at school, I absolutely was.
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  I can't wait to share those pictures.
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  I've gotten several from other staff too.
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  Oh, that's nice.
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  Yeah, by the time this comes out, everyone will have seen all of our teen photos.
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  So you'll see in that, like I'm the way I was in school was not helped.
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  But I was also the kid that like when we would do standardized testing, I would try, but
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  I would also go really fast because I wanted to read my book.
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  Like if you finish before everybody else, you just got to sit there and read.
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  And that was perfect with me.
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  So I did that in ninth grade.
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  I remember I had a teacher who, I don't want to say I was one of her favorites, but I pretty
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  much was.
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  I mean, I convinced this teacher to buy, I convinced this teacher to buy our entire class
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  Taco Bell.
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  Oh, my gosh.
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  What was your argument?
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  We brought in money.
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  Well, she always kept saying we were her favorite class.
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  And I'm like, well, yeah, if we are, you know, like, and we brought in the money.
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  She didn't pay for it.
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  She just went and got it for us.
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  We were like, this is our ninth grade.
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  I was in ninth grade.
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  So like we didn't, you couldn't leave school.
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  You weren't like a senior and couldn't do that.
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  But she got our class, Taco Bell, wrote down the orders, had envelope system, which each
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  kid had their envelope with their order in it.
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  She went on her planning period and got Taco Bell for our entire class.
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  And I convinced her to do that.
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  So I might have been our favorite.
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  But she had this rule when we were doing, it was computer applications.
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  She had this rule that you could not go ahead of whatever was going on the screen, like
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  as we're walking through each step of all the PowerPoint, Word, all that stuff.
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  But she let me go ahead because she knew if I finished, I'm just going to sit there and
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  read my book.
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  I'm not going to cause disruptions.
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  I'm not going to distract somebody else next to me.
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  I'm just going to sit there and be quiet.
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  So she let me go ahead and nobody else.
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  I love that.
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  I mean, you know, I took full advantage of being a teacher's pet in that classroom, 100 percent.
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  And you paid it forward with getting a Taco Bell day.
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  Exactly.
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  See?
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  I helped everybody out.
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  Yeah.
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  You shared the wealth.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So Tanya, what about you?
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  What were you like as a teen?
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  So a lot of my interests are very similar now as to when I was a teenager.
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  Like I was super into music.
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  I've always played instruments.
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  And I would watch VH1 Classic and Fused.
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  I loved watching music videos.
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  I had a huge crush on Slash.
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  He was like my first big, big crush when I was a kid or teen.
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  My favorite movie was Wayne's World.
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  Yes.
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  At the time, I still loved horror.
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  The Ring was a big one.
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  So I just kind of goofy, love music, love horror movies.
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  I have never been a horror person.
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  I wasn't allowed to watch scary stuff growing up.
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  And so I'm so sheltered about it and so the opposite of overexposed to horror stuff.
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  So all of it scares me.
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  You can just jump scare me, and I'll jump out of my skin.
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  Yeah, I'm in the middle.
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  Some of it I really like, others I'm like, I'd rather not.
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  So I'm kind of somewhere in the middle on it.
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  Yeah.
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  All three represented here.
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  There you go.
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  The full spectrum.
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  I'm kind of in the middle.
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  I've got the full spectrum of that.
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  Me, I can put on a horror movie and fall asleep.
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  That's my comfort.
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  Oh gosh, no.
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  That's crazy.
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  Absolutely not.
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  I will say, I can put on some heavy music and fall asleep.
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  That I can do, but not a horror film.
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  That's a no-go.
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  Yeah, I can't even imagine.
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  I was into a lot more like pop culture stuff when I was a teenager.
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  So like all the Marvel films were coming out, and I was that kid.
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  I remember going to see, oh gosh, the first Guardians of the Galaxy in theaters.
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  Ant-Man too.
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  Not number two, but as well.
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  We laughed and laughed at that, like me and my friend group.
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  We would go to every one, and we were always there for it.
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  We also really liked Sherlock.
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  I don't know if y'all have ever done the Sherlock thing back in the day, but the teen in me
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  is always ready to just like rise up out of the grave whenever someone says like Sherlock
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  Holmes.
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  I'm like, yes, let's talk about it.
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  Let's watch it again.
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  I have seen the Enola Holmes movie, which I thought was super sweet.
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  I think there's a display at Maine right now of like a bunch of Sherlock Holmes books out
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  front.
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  Did you make it?
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  If anyone knows who did, let me know, because I'm going to go talk to them, and we'll geek
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  out about Sherlock from back in the day.
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  If they are listening, you need to find Noelle, and you need to tell them.
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  Please do.
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  The essay is published.
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  As soon as possible.
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  Sherlock announcement.
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  Well, since you mentioned Sherlock, we can go on to talking about books now.
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  For those of you who are listening who are the book lovers, we're going to talk a little
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  bit about some different books that are coming for the summer.
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  I'll go first.
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  I'll talk about the grown up books.
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  So I have three that I picked out.
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  Now books for the summer.
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  When I think about that, they don't have to be published in the summer.
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  Thanks for you to read this.
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  That's the last thing I want to do is just give you a bunch of books that aren't out
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  yet and you just have to wait for them.
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  So I have two that will be out when this podcast comes out, and one that doesn't come out until
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  a little bit later.
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  By the summer, you can read the book The Midnight Train.
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  If you haven't heard about it a couple of years ago, there was a book by Matt Haig called
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  The Midnight Library.
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  I don't think in the entire time since it's been published, all the people that I've seen
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  read that book.
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  I don't think anybody that I've ever talked to has not spoke very highly of.
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  People love it.
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  And so there's a sequel coming.
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  I'm very interested to see how that goes because sometimes sequels aren't necessarily needed.
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  So I'm interested to see how this one lines up.
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  The idea behind that one is you can't change the past, but The Midnight Train can take
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  you there.
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  So these people, they get on this train and they can relive moments in their past.
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  That just sounds like an intriguing concept to me with how much I've heard that's good
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  about the past one.
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  I think that would be a great one to check out this summer.
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  The second one that I picked to talk about is called The Book Witch by Meg Schaefer.
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  Now I read a book that she came out with in 2024 and I loved it.
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  She kind of became on my radar of like, I need to watch for what's coming by this one.
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  She has a book that comes out, just came out in April.
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  So it's out.
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  The library has copies of it.
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  It kind of reminds me of Kate Quinn's like astral library and that, you know, concept
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  of like, you know, going into book, but there's not like this dark force, like trying to stop
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  things in this world.
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  The main character's name is Rainy March and she is a book witch, which in this world,
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  they had to defend the works of fiction from any foes, real or imaginary problem she runs
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  into is she goes into this one book.
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  It's her favorite book series and she starts having feelings for the main character.
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  That's a no, no.
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  If you're a book witch and you get to go inside these stories and stop that, you cannot.
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  They say don't eat, don't drink, don't sleep inside a fictional world because you'll become
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  part of the story.
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  So like you're just supposed to be in and out.
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  Well, someone goes missing in her family and the only person she knows that can help her
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  solve the mystery is the main character from her favorite book series.
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  So she has to work alongside him and not absolutely fall in love with him.
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  She has to team up, who knows what happens.
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  So that's the book witch.
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  I love the title too.
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  That sounds really intriguing.
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  I mean, it does to me too.
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  And I loved her last book.
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  So, you know, I have high hopes for this one.
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  And the third one is the one that's not out yet.
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  It comes out July the 7th and I confirmed with our tech services department that we
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  are getting this book.
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  So we will have it after it's published.
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  I didn't want to talk about it on here and then us not have it.
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  That would be bad for the podcast, bad customer service in general.
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  So we do have this.
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  It's called Country People by Daniel Mason.
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  In this book, there's a guy who has a PhD.
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  He works at a prestigious college and he has a degree in Russian folktales.
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  So he's like, you know, a very well educated person and his wife gets the opportunity to
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  go work in the far away, like in the middle of the forest in Vermont.
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  She gets to go in this small town and he goes there and he's never been around small town
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  people.
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  And so it's about him getting to know these people, the connections that he builds.
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  It's funny, it's heartfelt.
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  It's got a cast of characters as colorful as any of the folktales that he has a degree in.
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  It seems like it's going to be a funny book, but also something that, you know, has a little
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  bit of heart and kind of reminds us that, you know, people are people.
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  So that one's on my list for the summer.
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  That sounds like a really good summer read.
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  I mean, it does to me and it sounds like something, you know, that will be funny and lighthearted,
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  have a little bit of good morals to it, a good story and just kind of make you feel good.
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  So that's the three that I picked for summer reads for grownups.
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  Noelle, I think you've got some for teens or they're also for grownups too.
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  If you like reading young adult, I like reading young adult book.
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  You might like these too.
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  Yeah, I definitely.
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  A big young adult teen book reader personally.
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  That's actually what I'm reading currently.
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  I'm actually rereading the Cruel Prince trilogy, Love Me Some Holly Black.
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  This time around, I've been really interested in the underlying themes because, you know,
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  the first time you read through something, it's often like I'm just getting the feel of the plot,
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  the characters, like it's more just an experience.
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  And then the second time you can think about it more critically.
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  And my sister's also been reading it.
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  And so we've been able to and it's her first time.
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  So we've been able to kind of talk through like,
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  this is like a lot more than what it's given credit for because it is a book talk book,
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  really, you know, transparent there.
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  But it's kind of labeled romanticy.
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  And I think that's like an interesting take on the Cruel Prince if you know anything about it,
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  just because it's very much like a deep dive into like childhood trauma.
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  But because it's in a fantasy world, you don't necessarily like recognize it as such.
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  And it's also complete, like political intrigue and drama.
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  And I've always found that very interesting because I am a Star Wars kid, for sure.
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  So anything set in a fantasy world, but like we're playing politics in it.
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  I'm like, give me that.
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  I don't want real politics, but give me this.
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  Same.
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  That's why I love the Dune series.
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  That's probably why I love that series so much, because they do a similar thing with that.
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  Has this one been adapted to the screen, like with shows or a movie or anything?
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  It has not.
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  It is getting a graphic novel adaptation.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah, it's incoming.
• 20:36
  But I have a feeling that at some point it will be just because it's hit big enough.
• 20:41
  But who knows?
• 20:44
  As far as Unearthed Story theme goes, since that is our SLC theme for Summer,
• 20:51
  our Summer Library Club theme, I have an ongoing list that I just keep adding stuff to.
• 20:56
  I'm very excited about making displays and bookmarks and such.
• 21:01
  So keep an eye out at your local library this summer for even more teen read suggestions.
• 21:08
  I came across Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur, which is actually a Marvel graphic novel series.
• 21:16
  So we have a lot of kiddos wanting graphic novels here.
• 21:20
  It's like over 50% of the stuff that comes in and out of here is graphic novels.
• 21:25
  The stuff that gets checked out, I mean.
• 21:27
  Even though it's only like a third of our teen collection here, which is crazy.
• 21:32
  That's like a lot.
• 21:34
  But yeah, so Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur.
• 21:37
  Basically, she's like an inhuman preteen.
• 21:41
  So it's kind of on the earlier end teen services, I would say.
• 21:45
  But she's a genius.
• 21:48
  And she kind of is at war about whether or not that's good for her or bad for her.
• 21:56
  Because it comes with a lot of weight with it.
• 22:00
  She does have a time-tossed devil dinosaur.
• 22:05
  And the whole premise is kind of like, are we going to be friends?
• 22:10
  Or are we not going to be friends?
• 22:12
  So and you can kind of tell it from the cover.
• 22:15
  They're like staring each other down, even though she's so tiny.
• 22:18
  So be sure to check that one out if you're interested in graphic novels and such.
• 22:24
  But I also have been putting together a whole list of things that feature buried treasure
• 22:31
  as their topic.
• 22:33
  Because we have a lot of those.
• 22:35
  You don't get as many dinosaur books in teen section as you would in like, you know,
• 22:41
  kid section.
• 22:43
  So I've looked into a lot of buried treasure books and like treasure hunting and that sort
• 22:48
  of thing.
• 22:48
  We had one come in just this past year.
• 22:54
  I think it had been a few years released.
• 22:57
  But we didn't grab it up until recently.
• 23:00
  And what got me about it is how pretty it is.
• 23:04
  It's called The Gilded Wolves.
• 23:06
  And it's one of those like sprayed edges, nice copies that we've gotten in.
• 23:10
  Yeah, yeah.
• 23:12
  So I'm a sucker for those.
• 23:15
  Automatically just makes me want to pick it up.
• 23:18
  Yeah, so kind of mystery, but it also gets into like magic and antiquities and treasure
• 23:26
  troves.
• 23:28
  It's a little bit historically set.
• 23:30
  It's got this like fake fantasy history going on.
• 23:34
  And something called the Order of Babel is this issue that they're having within the
• 23:42
  book.
• 23:43
  They're in kind of like a dystopian, like all powerful society.
• 23:47
  We love a good dystopian, right?
• 23:51
  But basically, they have to go through Paris and hunt an artifact down.
• 23:57
  But of course, they are fighting for their lives against it.
• 24:00
  I don't want to spoil too much because I did, I dabbled in this one, but I haven't
• 24:05
  made it through yet.
• 24:06
  And so I'm like, you know, I'm still in like the very like probably first quarter.
• 24:11
  But yeah, I would suggest it so far.
• 24:15
  If you have, well, once it's, you know, not checked out to me anymore.
• 24:21
  You know, and both of those sound really good, sound like something that I would want to
• 24:26
  read myself.
• 24:27
  And so I will once again say it, young adult teen books are not just for teens and young
• 24:34
  adults.
• 24:34
  They are for anyone who might enjoy those kind of stories, because there are some great
• 24:39
  stuff in those series and books that because they're not, you're not the target audience
• 24:43
  doesn't mean you can't be the audience.
• 24:45
  Absolutely.
• 24:46
  I see that a lot are people that are hesitant to come in and riffle through the teen section.
• 24:51
  I'm like, no, no, no, go for it.
• 24:53
  That's like, that's where I live.
• 24:55
  Yeah, I'm, I'm always reading something teen.
• 24:58
  I read adult stuff, too.
• 24:59
  But there's plenty there for that's applicable to all ages.
• 25:03
  Yeah, it's like you can't you can't be on the couches and in the zone zone.
• 25:08
  But the books, you can go right through there and look at those and get like, that's, that's
• 25:14
  totally fine.
• 25:15
  And also, if you feel kind of nervous, and you don't want to go browsing in the teen
• 25:20
  section, you can go to our website, go online, look and see what books put them on hold.
• 25:25
  And then you can pick them up, you know, at the front desk.
• 25:28
  So you don't even have to go look on the shelves.
• 25:31
  If that's if you're still self conscious about it, that's okay.
• 25:34
  That's what I did with the Fear Street book I checked out.
• 25:37
  I just looked online to see what Fear Street books they have, because with R.L.
• 25:41
  Stein coming, I realized I've never read any of the Fear Street series.
• 25:45
  So, which is pretty wild.
• 25:47
  I have not either actually, I hesitate to say.
• 25:51
  The one I'm reading right now is called Party Summer.
• 25:54
  They're staying at a supposedly haunted hotel to work for the summer.
• 25:59
  And it's called the Howling Wolf Inn.
• 26:01
  So I'm like, this sounds fantastic.
• 26:04
  And it takes place on a beach too.
• 26:05
  So, good summer read.
• 26:07
  There's Tanya's summer read suggestion.
• 26:10
  Get ready for the book sale, get pumped and read R.L. Stein.
• 26:14
  I know something else, I don't really have a segue for this,
• 26:17
  but we can just go right into it that we wanted to mention on our podcast.
• 26:21
  If there's something that you're looking for that we don't have,
• 26:25
  that you think the library should have, or you want to read it and we don't,
• 26:28
  there's a way in which you can suggest the library purchase.
• 26:33
  And what you have to do is if you go into your library account with your card and pin number,
• 26:38
  there's an option for you to suggest materials.
• 26:41
  You just fill it out, let us know.
• 26:43
  And if we can't buy it or it doesn't fit our collection policy for whatever reason,
• 26:51
  then there's a process that we have called interlibrary loan,
• 26:55
  that you can get the book brought in from another library in a different state even.
• 27:01
  That is an option if you're looking for something.
• 27:04
  If you're not comfortable with that and you don't know how to log into your account,
• 27:10
  you can let us know at the service desk.
• 27:13
  Hey, you guys don't have this.
• 27:15
  And we can help you put in a request as well.
• 27:18
  We just wanted to kind of plug that because us having suggestions from what people actually want,
• 27:24
  that's what we want.
• 27:25
  We want to get things that people want to read.
• 27:27
  Let us know.
• 27:29
  That's just a PSA, public service announcement about books.
• 27:33
  I love that.
• 27:35
  I did want to mention real quick.
• 27:37
  So part of our teen challenge for the bingo that we're doing this SLC,
• 27:44
  one of the spaces has an extra grand prize entry.
• 27:48
  If you fill out either our teen survey or our reading request form online,
• 27:54
  this is kind of a new thing we've rolled out.
• 27:56
  So we want to get your feedback from teenagers.
• 27:58
  We want to see what you want to see at your library.
• 28:02
  And on top of that, we can get you a very personalized book recommendation.
• 28:07
  If you're not really able to come in or you don't feel like talking to someone face to face,
• 28:12
  we have a link online on kcpls.org slash teens.
• 28:17
  And you can just fill out, it's like a little Microsoft survey.
• 28:21
  And that'll go automatically to me.
• 28:23
  And I will personally curate you a new recommendation.
• 28:28
  And you can get back to me as to whether you liked it or not.
• 28:30
  And we can keep that conversation going.
• 28:32
  Wow, that is an awesome service.
• 28:34
  Because I know some people really, you know, just for not have to have that contact
• 28:40
  and be able to do it this way.
• 28:42
  That's really cool.
• 28:44
  And they can find that on the website on the teen page.
• 28:48
  Yes, that and the survey.
• 28:50
  The survey is just to get some feedback, but it's also on there.
• 28:54
  We do have physical copies.
• 28:55
  Well, we will have physical copies starting May 30th for the kickoff.
• 28:59
  But a lot of times it's probably just going to be easier for most teens to go on their phone
• 29:04
  and look at the website and do it that way.
• 29:07
  So up next, when we envisioned this podcast, I thought, let's do some things like late
• 29:15
  night TV shows do where they have segments.
• 29:18
  They have things that you look forward to, like carpool karaoke with James Corden.
• 29:22
  Jimmy Fallon has a lot of his thank you notes and a bunch of other games.
• 29:26
  And so we've kind of built some that we're thinking about doing these little segments.
• 29:32
  So this is going to be our very first segment that we will probably have again in another
• 29:38
  few months on a different topic.
• 29:41
  This segment's called Overdue Conversation, in which we will talk about, quote unquote,
• 29:46
  controversial topics relating to books.
• 29:51
  And they're not going to be super serious, but some of them kind of might be.
• 29:57
  You'll see what I mean by that.
• 29:59
  And our very first one that we're going to talk about, I just saw a post this past week
• 30:06
  about it online.
• 30:07
  So it is being discussed.
• 30:08
  Do audiobooks count as reading?
• 30:12
  What are your thoughts?
• 30:16
  I could get on a soapbox about this one.
• 30:20
  Perfect.
• 30:22
  Awesome.
• 30:22
  Well, here's my soapbox and I'm stepping onto it.
• 30:25
  I think absolutely yes.
• 30:28
  If I had a big red button with a yes on it, I'd be slamming it right now.
• 30:34
  They absolutely count as reading.
• 30:37
  There's a lot of people in online circles that want to pull semantics and be like,
• 30:41
  well, technically, the act of reading means you're scanning words on a page.
• 30:47
  But for me, it's more about what it does for you.
• 30:50
  You're still consuming this story.
• 30:52
  You're still reaching the part of your brain.
• 30:55
  There's actually a few studies that came out recently that show that it's the same
• 31:00
  areas lighting up as when you are physically reading it on the page.
• 31:04
  Now, there are some cognitive differences.
• 31:07
  You're definitely, you know, someone can listen to a story and understand it,
• 31:10
  but also be unable to read words on a page.
• 31:14
  So there's definitely differences there.
• 31:17
  But personally, I have the app StoryGraph and I track all of my reading and stuff.
• 31:24
  And it like auto sorts some stats for me.
• 31:27
  And I did pull this specifically for this conversation because I was adamant about it.
• 31:33
  My reading is 80% audiobooks.
• 31:37
  So if you want to look the teen services librarian in the eye and tell her that she's not a reader,
• 31:42
  go for it.
• 31:43
  But I will disagree.
• 31:46
  So yeah, that's my two cents on the topic.
• 31:49
  Okay.
• 31:49
  So I agree.
• 31:51
  I wholeheartedly agree.
• 31:53
  My defense for this, and I thought this up myself.
• 31:56
  This is just the way my brain works.
• 31:59
  Okay.
• 32:00
  So if I were to say what, describe to me what is the process of eating?
• 32:07
  If you were going to eat something, what do you do?
• 32:09
  You usually have, you know, you take something and you consume it, right?
• 32:14
  And you use, most people use their hand if they're eating a sandwich or a spoon or a fork.
• 32:20
  You're physically feeding yourself.
• 32:23
  If I said, what did you eat for dinner last night?
• 32:25
  You're going to tell me what you physically fed yourself, right?
• 32:29
  Well, if somebody, for whatever reason, is disabled, they have a full body cast on,
• 32:35
  or for some reason, and someone else has to feed them, are they still eating?
• 32:41
  Yep.
• 32:41
  Are they still consuming food?
• 32:42
  Are they still getting that?
• 32:44
  They absolutely are.
• 32:45
  Nobody in the world thinks of eating as the physical process of using your hands,
• 32:53
  using a fork, using a spoon.
• 32:55
  It's what happens with that in your body, and you get energy and calories and yada, yada, yada.
• 33:01
  Nobody gets into semantics on that.
• 33:04
  It just seems to be within reading, they get in semantics.
• 33:07
  Like, well, technically, reading involves, like, no, you're getting the information the same way.
• 33:15
  And you both get it.
• 33:16
  You still...
• 33:17
  I mean, I have people in my book club who listen to audio versus read the physical book.
• 33:23
  They can participate on the exact same level of discussing that story,
• 33:27
  whether they read it with their eyes or they listen with their ears.
• 33:30
  So I think it absolutely counts, and it's the same.
• 33:35
  I agree.
• 33:36
  We ride at dawn for audiobooks.
• 33:38
  Yeah, ride at dawn for audiobooks.
• 33:41
  Plus, in terms of accessibility, some people,
• 33:45
  if they might only be able to listen to an audiobook while they're driving to work or
• 33:51
  doing other tasks, that might be the only time they can enjoy a book.
• 33:55
  So I think it's great that we have that option.
• 33:59
  Yeah, so however you read, we just love that you do.
• 34:03
  So whether you listen, whether you read one book a month, one book a year, you're reading.
• 34:11
  We're glad you're doing it.
• 34:12
  Absolutely.
• 34:13
  So we're all for that.
• 34:14
  And that's our overdue conversation.
• 34:17
  Glad we had it.
• 34:19
  Yes.
• 34:20
  You got a minute to set up on your soapbox, Noel.
• 34:23
  You've got a platform to have that.
• 34:27
  Thanks for handing me the soapbox.
• 34:28
  Oh, yeah, no problem.
• 34:30
  Absolutely.
• 34:31
  Okay, so before we wrap up, we're gonna do a little bit, talk a little bit.
• 34:35
  We're gonna let Noel talk about some things going on this summer for teens in the county.
• 34:41
  Yes, I'm excited about this summer.
• 34:45
  We have four system-wide programs going on for teenagers.
• 34:49
  So you'll be able to find these at any of your local branches or almost all of them.
• 34:56
  The first one, we have Salsa Gardens.
• 34:59
  And this is the first two weeks of June.
• 35:01
  So we're gonna be making little garden starters that you can take home and decorating them.
• 35:07
  And they're gonna have your choice of typical salsa ingredients like tomatoes, onions,
• 35:15
  even cilantro that you can plant and then grow at your home.
• 35:20
  And you can either transplant them or keep them in their little containers.
• 35:23
  So I'm very excited for that one.
• 35:25
  We all love good Mexican food program.
• 35:29
  I don't know how many of those we get, but there's one this summer.
• 35:32
  So the second two weeks of June, we have our Ancient World Escape Room.
• 35:39
  Basically, me and the library assistants in my space are currently working on a storyline
• 35:48
  where you are going to be involved in depth in the world of ancient Greece.
• 35:55
  And you're gonna go find an old artifact, but then something goes wrong
• 36:02
  and you have to escape the trap that has been sprung.
• 36:07
  So you're gonna go through codes and puzzles and try to get out within your hour limit.
• 36:13
  So I'm very excited for that one.
• 36:14
  I think that's gonna be my favorite of the summer, personally.
• 36:17
  So keep in mind.
• 36:19
  That gives me Legends of the Hidden Temple vibes is what that gives me.
• 36:25
  I'm sure you know.
• 36:27
  That's what it gives me.
• 36:28
  Gotta escape.
• 36:29
  Gotta get out.
• 36:30
  So the first two weeks of July, we're gonna do a Minecraft mini games tourney.
• 36:37
  So all locations are gonna have mini games like Bed Wars and such where we go through
• 36:43
  and we see who is the ultimate Minecraft player, who yearns for the mines the most.
• 36:51
  And then the last two weeks of July, we'll be closing out SLC
• 36:54
  and that's gonna be our slime program.
• 36:57
  We're gonna do insects in amber slime.
• 37:00
  So we've got little insects and bugs that we're gonna put into some amber slime
• 37:05
  and maybe talk about, you know, Jurassic Park a bit.
• 37:08
  That's what we'll be talking about that one next month here on the podcast, Jurassic Park.
• 37:13
  Love it.
• 37:13
  All right.
• 37:15
  Well, that was our community spotlight on teens.
• 37:18
  That's what we're focusing on.
• 37:19
  But we do have programs for all ages this summer at all of your locations.
• 37:24
  Right now, there is a lovely book that has been put together by Corey in our marketing department
• 37:32
  that has all of these programs that are system-wide in and you can get those guidebooks,
• 37:40
  I think it's what we call them, at your location and you can see programs for,
• 37:45
  you know, all ages that we have going on.
• 37:47
  So definitely check those out.
• 37:50
  And we also have calendars every month.
• 37:52
  If you'd rather just come in and get a calendar for you think,
• 37:55
  I can only focus on what I'm doing next month, not July, you can go that route too.
• 38:01
  You can go that route too.
• 38:02
  We'll still have our normal calendars out with all of our programs.
• 38:05
  So definitely check those out.
• 38:07
  If we have any listeners who are not in Kanawha County, I always say and give a shout out,
• 38:12
  if that is the case, check with your local library.
• 38:16
  See what they have going on.
• 38:17
  Or if you heard us talk about something that you wish they would do, let them know.
• 38:21
  Say, hey, they're doing this.
• 38:22
  Can we do that?
• 38:23
  Give them the idea.
• 38:24
  Maybe they can do it too.
• 38:27
  Just want to shout that out.
• 38:28
  If there's anybody listening that's not local.
• 38:31
  And with that, this is episode two of our podcast.
• 38:34
  We have done our second episode and we hope you enjoyed it.
• 38:39
  We hope you had a good time.
• 38:40
  And anything else anyone have to say to our listeners?
• 38:44
  I'm just excited Noelle was here.
• 38:46
  I was very excited for the topic of today's podcast.
• 38:49
  So thank you, Noelle, for hopping on and joining with us.
• 38:54
  You are so welcome.
• 38:55
  Thank you for having me.
• 38:57
  I enjoyed this.
• 38:57
  This was a good break from, you know, some more stressful tasks.
• 39:01
  So back on the grind.
• 39:06
  We're glad we could be that little break for you.
• 39:10
  And you did an excellent job.
• 39:12
  You are an excellent first guest.
• 39:15
  Oh, thank you.
• 39:16
  You can't see, but I'm bowing.
• 39:21
  All right.
• 39:22
  This has been On The Same Page, a KCPL podcast.
• 39:26
  I'm Evan.
• 39:27
  And I'm Tanya.
• 39:28
  And thanks for listening.