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Chief Minister Natasha Fyles says Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker still has her full support · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now, last week there was a lot of focus on
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  Speaker 1: the fire service, culminating in the United Workers Union calling
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  Speaker 1: for the CEO of Police, Fire and Emergency Services to
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  Speaker 1: stand down and also the separation of services. Meanwhile, the
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  Speaker 1: ABC was reporting that the Northern Territory Police Associations confirmed
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  Speaker 1: that some of its members are pushing to hold a
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  Speaker 1: vote of no confidence in the Northern Territory Police Commissioner.
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  Speaker 2: Now joining me in the.
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  Speaker 1: Studio right now is the Chief Minister at Tasha Files.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, Good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Chief Minister, have you seen this letter that the
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  Speaker 1: union issued last week to the commissioner or.
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  Speaker 3: Are you aware of it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie, I am aware of that correspondence, and I
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  Speaker 4: think it's important for listeners to understand that we have
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  Speaker 4: seen significant development in the fire service over the last
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  Speaker 4: couple of years. We've seen a restructure that's created a
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  Speaker 4: strong leadership team that includes a Chief Fire Officer, a
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  Speaker 4: deputy Chief fire officer and assistant fire chief fire officers.
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  Speaker 4: So the Commissioner has put in place structures within that
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  Speaker 4: fire service. But certainly, you know, take the concerns of
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  Speaker 4: our hard working firefighters seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I guess at the end of the day, they're
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  Speaker 1: obviously concerned that they feel as though he's allegedly acted
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  Speaker 1: in a bullying or intimidating manner. Are you concerned that
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  Speaker 1: you've got firefighters that are calling for the CEO to
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  Speaker 1: stand down due to those members no longer trusting him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm aware of those allegations and they have now put
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  Speaker 4: that in writing that the Police Commissioner, who is also
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  Speaker 4: the head of the Fire Service and Emergency Services, has
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  Speaker 4: denied that.
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  Speaker 3: But of course that latter will be treated with respect.
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  Speaker 4: But we certainly have seen this strong leadership created within
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  Speaker 4: the fire service. We've also seen recruitment to the service.
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  Speaker 4: But it is concerning to hear that you know members
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  Speaker 4: are upset.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a situation right now though, where The ABC
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  Speaker 1: was last week reporting that the Northern Territory Police Association
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  Speaker 1: has confirmed that some of its members are pushing to
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  Speaker 1: hold a vote of no confidence in the Police Commissioner.
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  Speaker 1: The union president Paul McHugh has told the ABC that
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  Speaker 1: six of the union's twelve member regions had so far
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  Speaker 1: past resolutions asking for a vote to be held. Chief Minister,
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  Speaker 1: does the Police Commissioner still have your confidence? Because you've
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  Speaker 1: now got a situation where the fieries are saying one thing.
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  Speaker 1: You've got half of those of the union's twelve member
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  Speaker 1: regions saying that they want this vote of no confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Does the Police Commissioner still have your confidence?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Katie, So the Police Commissioner is safe in that role. So, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: I've worked incredibly closely with the Police Commissioner as the
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  Speaker 1: Territory Controller over the last couple of years whilst we've
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  Speaker 1: been in the COVID nineteen pandemic, and I've seen how
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  Speaker 1: hard he works and how he certainly considers the views
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  Speaker 1: of his team right across the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 3: So he has my support.
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  Speaker 1: So can this all be put to bed at this
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  Speaker 1: point in time? You know, even though you've got a
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  Speaker 1: situation where some members of the territory police and some
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  Speaker 1: of the Fieries do not have confidence in their leader,
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  Speaker 1: you still have that confidence in him.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, But I think any concerns that are raised need
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  Speaker 4: to be addressed appropriately. And Katie, we are hoping that
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  Speaker 4: the public health emergency will come to an end in
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  Speaker 4: the next couple of weeks. We've seen an incredible amount
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  Speaker 4: of work done by police, so their resources have certainly
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  Speaker 4: been stretched and challenged right across the Northern Territory. So
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  Speaker 4: I think it is an opportune in time, with a
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  Speaker 4: new Minister for Police and the ending hopefully of the
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  Speaker 4: Public Health emergency, to make sure that those offices, their
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  Speaker 4: concerns that are being raised are addressed and that we
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  Speaker 4: can repivot some of those resources that have been tied
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  Speaker 4: up dealing with COVID. Well.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I know that some of the concerns that are
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  Speaker 1: obviously being raised as well, issues with mental health, they
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  Speaker 1: are indeed paramount Also those attrition rates within the Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territory Police Force, they're on track to reach eleven percent.
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  Speaker 3: How is this going to be dealt with?
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, when I've been out across the Northern Territory
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  Speaker 4: and I spent time in a number of police stations
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  Speaker 4: recently and I will continue to do so, as will
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  Speaker 4: the Police Minister. But the support for our officers, the
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  Speaker 4: issues and what they face each and every day, certainly
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  Speaker 4: we need to make sure that they are provided with
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  Speaker 4: the right mental health and social supports and that's something
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  Speaker 4: that is a priority for us. We know that they
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  Speaker 4: have had a review, we know that there's some services
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  Speaker 4: that are provided that are extremely supportive and officers appreciate that,
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  Speaker 4: such as the chaplain support. So we need to understand
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  Speaker 4: what our officers on the frontline need and how we
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  Speaker 4: can ensure they get those supports.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as you're concerned, Jamie Chalker is the
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  Speaker 1: right person to lead the Police, Fire and Emergency services.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, correct, all right?
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  Speaker 1: I do want to move along because there is a
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  Speaker 1: lot to cover off on this morning, including the Darwin
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  Speaker 1: Turf Club and this twelve million dollar grant. Now the
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  Speaker 1: government has said this money needs to be repaid. The
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  Speaker 1: Darwin Turf Club has said that they can't. The chairman
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  Speaker 1: of Thoroughbred Racing int Sid Sterling, has called on you
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  Speaker 1: and the new racing ministers to show some personal courage
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  Speaker 1: and independent thinking to reverse this decision to recall the
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  Speaker 1: twelve million dollar Darwin Turf Club grant.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to do that?
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, we know that the racing industry is a
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  Speaker 4: huge part of our economy. We know that Territorians enjoy it,
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  Speaker 4: but we also know that it breeding significant eco nomic opportunity,
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  Speaker 4: not just in the top end during the Darwin Cup carnival,
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  Speaker 4: for example, but right throughout the territory. So the Minister
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  Speaker 4: for Racing, Gaming and Licensing, Minister Pate, will meet with
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  Speaker 4: the board members of the Darwin Turf Club this week.
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  Speaker 4: I understand, Katie, and at this stage the discussions around
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  Speaker 4: that twelve million dollar grant to the Turf Club remain ongoing.
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  Speaker 3: So the discussions are ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: We do know that there was reportedly two more members
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  Speaker 1: of the board stand down last week. There's no doubt
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  Speaker 1: that this cloud hanging over this whole situation right now
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  Speaker 1: is going to have a big impact, I would suspect
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  Speaker 1: on the delivery of the Darwin Cup carnival.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you know, right from the get go,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't agree with the money being handed over in
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  Speaker 1: the first place, but the fact is it's happened. The
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  Speaker 1: grandstand is there. Is it time to just draw a
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  Speaker 1: line in the sand and say, you know what, this
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  Speaker 1: industry is too important to see it fall on its face.
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  Speaker 1: Let's leave this where it is not, try to claw
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  Speaker 1: this money back and move on.
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  Speaker 3: Katie.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be repetitive, but I think that
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  Speaker 4: that incoming minister to have those discussions is important. We
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  Speaker 4: need to understand the situation that the Darwin turf club
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  Speaker 4: is presently in but in terms of racing, we know
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  Speaker 4: the significant economic contribution that it makes to communities right
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  Speaker 4: across the Northern Territory. We do provide an annual grant
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  Speaker 4: each year to the industry and I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 4: the new minister having those discussions around how we can
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  Speaker 4: support the industry, but acknowledge what has happened.
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  Speaker 1: So could those discussions indeed include not paying the money.
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  Speaker 3: Back, Katie.
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  Speaker 4: I think that we do need to remember back and
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  Speaker 4: I know that it is a new board, but taxpayers
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  Speaker 4: do expect and deserve their money to be spent responsibly.
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  Speaker 4: But this is something that the new minister is looking
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  Speaker 4: at with those fresh eyes.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, at the end of the day, they
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  Speaker 1: did deliver the twelve, They did deliver the.
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  Speaker 3: Grand stand, so it's there.
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  Speaker 1: It's doing what you guys said it needed to do
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  Speaker 1: in terms of you know, drawing that visitation, having people
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  Speaker 1: use that grandstand and utilize it. Like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't agree with it from the get go. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't the best use of taxpayer dollars. But the
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  Speaker 1: fact is it's there and it's doing what it was
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  Speaker 1: meant to do.
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  Speaker 4: And the incoming minister knows the economic contribution just in
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  Speaker 4: the top end, but right across the territory that racing
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  Speaker 4: industry brings, and so he will have those discussions with
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  Speaker 4: the board members around where they're sitting financially and into
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  Speaker 4: the future, because we do need to make sure that
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  Speaker 4: we support this industry, Katie, because sometimes people think of
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  Speaker 4: racing as a glamorous industry, and of course on those
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  Speaker 4: carnival days it is, but there's many people that work
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  Speaker 4: incredibly hard, incredibly long hours. There's a lot of infrastructure
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  Speaker 4: that needs to be supported so that we have a
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  Speaker 4: safe working environment.
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  Speaker 3: So the new ministry is looking at all of that.
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  Speaker 4: So it sounds like the doors open there. The Ministry
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  Speaker 4: is meeting with the duw And Turf Club. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's this week, Katie. Don't hold me to that, but
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  Speaker 4: he certainly will be entering discussions with them around how
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  Speaker 4: the industry can be supported because it is an important
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  Speaker 4: economic contributor to the territory.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we are going to be hearing from Sid
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  Speaker 1: Sterling in the next ten minutes or so, the chair
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  Speaker 1: of Thoroughbred Racing here in the Northern Territory now one
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  Speaker 1: of the only one of the other things that he's
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  Speaker 1: still floating around. At the moment, we are now the
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  Speaker 1: only jurisdiction in Australia with a vaccine mandate for workers
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  Speaker 1: still in place. How long can they govern and that
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  Speaker 1: continue with this mandate when every other jurisdiction in Australia
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  Speaker 1: has really you know, I looked at it and acknowledged
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  Speaker 1: that it's no longer required.
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  Speaker 4: So COVID nineteen, I believe, is transitioning from that pandemic
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  Speaker 4: to an endemic. The public health emergency is due to
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  Speaker 4: end on June sixteenth, so I have been seeking briefings
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  Speaker 4: from Health as well as the Territory Controller around how
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  Speaker 4: we step forward and hopefully we see that emergency phase end.
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  Speaker 4: And then you certainly would look at all the chow
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  Speaker 4: directions are in place and what directions need to be
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  Speaker 4: kept to keep the community safe as we transition from
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  Speaker 4: that pandemic phase through to an endemic.
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  Speaker 1: So is there a possibility here that when the emergency
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  Speaker 1: phase ends, so too does the X mandate.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, I need to get the full health advice
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  Speaker 4: before I speak publicly, but I can certainly point to
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  Speaker 4: decisions where we've made in the past, where we've been
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  Speaker 4: incredibly agile so around close contacts and removing that so
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  Speaker 4: our health teams are getting all the advice they need
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  Speaker 4: so that that we can make the right decisions. And
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  Speaker 4: I know people are fatigued about COVID. They're sick of
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  Speaker 4: talking about it. It's been over two years, but simply
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  Speaker 4: because we want it to go away. It won't go away,
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  Speaker 4: but certainly getting all of that advice.
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  Speaker 1: I think most people are wondering why the health advice
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  Speaker 1: is different here in the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 2: To other states. You know why other states.
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  Speaker 1: No longer acquire the vaccine mandate but for us here
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  Speaker 1: in the territory we do.
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  Speaker 4: So Katie, we've got an incredibly vulnerable population. And when
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  Speaker 4: I say vulnerable, it's not just people that have underlying
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  Speaker 4: health illnesses. We have people original Interrrostrate Island to Territorians
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  Speaker 4: with underlying chronic illness. We've also got a very young population.
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  Speaker 4: But all of those factors are being taken into account.
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  Speaker 4: And what I can say to your listeners, because I
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  Speaker 4: know that there is incredibly passionate views around this, is
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  Speaker 4: that that public health emergency ending just in a couple
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  Speaker 4: of weeks time is certainly for us around you know,
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  Speaker 4: do we need to continue that emergency? If we don't
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  Speaker 4: continue that emergency, what are the measures that we do
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  Speaker 4: need to keep in place. But we're very much looking
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  Speaker 4: towards shifting from a pandemic to an endemic.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you are looking to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: the vaccine mandate when the emergency phase ense.
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  Speaker 4: So Katie, what I can say is I've pointed to
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  Speaker 4: the times when we've been incredibly agile with making decisions.
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  Speaker 4: I will be getting briefings from Health over the coming
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  Speaker 4: days as we know that that date of the pandemic
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  Speaker 4: emergency ending comes quite.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us here.
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  Speaker 4: We don't mind, you know, always talk to you, but
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  Speaker 4: I do need to make sure because this is incredibly
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  Speaker 4: complex and we are seeing, you know, cases still in
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  Speaker 4: the territory. We've seen changes to the variants, so we
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  Speaker 4: do need to make sure we make those correct.
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  Speaker 3: Decisions, all right.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other big concerns at the moment, which
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  Speaker 1: is indeed crippling territories, is the cost of living. So
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  Speaker 1: we know that int Costs has released the latest cost
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  Speaker 1: of living report. It's found that we're doing it very
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  Speaker 1: tough in the territory, right Now the CPI for housing
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  Speaker 1: including utilities increase by fifteen point nine percent in Darwin
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  Speaker 1: compared to four percent nationally. Fuel went up by forty
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  Speaker 1: one point four percent in Darwin compared to thirty two
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  Speaker 1: point three percent nationally. Darwin rents rose compared to zero
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  Speaker 1: point four percent nationally. Now I understand that this is
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  Speaker 1: not just an issue that the Northern Territory government can
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  Speaker 1: deal with. It is something that the whole federal election
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  Speaker 1: was really there was a lot of discussion about it
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  Speaker 1: throughout the federal election. But what can be done to
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  Speaker 1: try and lower the cost of living right now?
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  Speaker 4: So we need to work incredibly closely with the Commonwealth
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  Speaker 4: government in this space. But there is things that the
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  Speaker 4: Northern Territory does do and will continue to do. One
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  Speaker 4: of the big ones KD is that because and you
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  Speaker 4: know this area well, our power and water their government
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  Speaker 4: owned corporations. So we've got the ability to ensure that
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  Speaker 4: power prices. We've committed to two point seven percent increases
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  Speaker 4: in power prices, not the significant increases that you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: on the East Coast. So people are hearing in the
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  Speaker 4: media how much power is going up on the East
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  Speaker 4: coasts territories can be reassured because their government owned assets,
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  Speaker 4: we're able to ensure that that is managed. We're making
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  Speaker 4: sure that we're releasing land because we know that housing
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  Speaker 4: and you pointed to that increase in the cost of
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  Speaker 4: housing and rental. We're making sure that there is land
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  Speaker 4: release and also making sure that we've got affordable and
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  Speaker 4: social housing. And we also provide targeted schemes Katie, to
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  Speaker 4: those For example, there's childcare support that go straight to
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  Speaker 4: the childcare centers, but that does help mums and dads
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  Speaker 4: with childcare fees. And also territories living, you know, concession
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  Speaker 4: and seniors. We've got a number of incentive schemes in place.
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  Speaker 1: So what sort of new things are you looking at,
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  Speaker 1: Particularly when you look at the price of petrol. I
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  Speaker 1: know that you know you can't force petrol companies to
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  Speaker 1: lower the price of fuel, but we've seen over recent
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  Speaker 1: weeks the situation where despite that fuel excise, despite the
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  Speaker 1: terminal gate price going down. I know it fluctuates at
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  Speaker 1: the terminal gate, but you know, we had the AA
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  Speaker 1: Inc Writing the to the a Triple C to try
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  Speaker 1: and have a look into this. Is there something that
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Territory government can do to try and put
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  Speaker 1: a bit of pressure on those petrol companies as well,
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that they're not, you know, taking advantage
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  Speaker 1: of us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've seen, you know, we've all got instances
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  Speaker 4: where we feel here in the territory we're taking advantage.
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  Speaker 4: But global fuel prices are up, which does in turn
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  Speaker 4: have a cost impact on transport and for us here
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  Speaker 4: in the territory, whether you're living in a city or
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  Speaker 4: a town or out in a remote area.
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  Speaker 3: That certainly is a factor.
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  Speaker 4: So we're certainly making sure that even with the Commonwealth,
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  Speaker 4: you know, some of those decisions that we're not necessarily
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  Speaker 4: directly responsible for, that they understand the viewpoint of the
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  Speaker 4: Northern Territory and how much it does impact us.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So no writing to the petrol companies or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that at this point to say, come on, guys,
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  Speaker 1: be fair.
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  Speaker 4: Oh Katie, if you know there's advice that points to
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  Speaker 4: that we need to talk to those companies that they
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  Speaker 4: are having a leend of territories, of course we'll do that.
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  Speaker 4: But there isn't an easy fix. We are seeing a
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  Speaker 4: global increase in fuel prices and it's certainly being felt
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  Speaker 4: here in Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I believe there was an announcement made this morning
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  Speaker 1: as well when it comes to electric vehicles. What exactly
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  Speaker 1: is the government doing in this space.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Katie, we know that electric vehicles are the
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  Speaker 4: way of the future, and certainly you know for any
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  Speaker 4: Territori and that perhaps is looking towards a new vehicle.
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  Speaker 4: Mindority is difficult to get vehicles that moment and it's
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  Speaker 4: certainly a big impact on the financial on the household budget.
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  Speaker 4: But we announced a scheme this morning around providing for
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  Speaker 4: charging stations, so for both personal residential use but also
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  Speaker 4: body corporates and businesses. So there's a grant available to
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  Speaker 4: help cover that cost. And some of these fast charging
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  Speaker 4: stations are being installed, Katie, so people can pull up
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  Speaker 4: charge their electric vehicle quickly and so that and also
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  Speaker 4: around reducing that stamp duty from the first of.
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  Speaker 3: July for an electric vehicle.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have been thinking about perhaps changing your vehicle,
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  Speaker 4: now it's time to look at these grant schemes and
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  Speaker 4: see what you might be eligible for.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, before I let you go, we know overnight some
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  Speaker 1: pretty terrible news. Eight youths apparently arrested following a dramatic
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  Speaker 1: night of car thefts throughout the top end, four allegedly
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  Speaker 1: assaulting a man on the esplanade before stealing his car,
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  Speaker 1: and four allegedly involved in an almost identical incident in
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  Speaker 1: the Northern Suburbs.
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  Speaker 2: Police say that some of these boys.
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  Speaker 1: Aged between twelve and fifteen years of age. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these types of incidents are becoming all too common for
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  Speaker 1: us in the territory. But to me, this is mortifying
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  Speaker 1: for a whole raft of different reasons. It's mortifying obviously
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  Speaker 1: for the victim who's been allegedly assaulted and had their
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  Speaker 1: car stolen, but also you think, how on earth have
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  Speaker 1: we got kids of this age out on the street.
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  Speaker 4: It's unacceptable, Katie, I spoke to the Minister for Police
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  Speaker 4: earlier this morning who's been brief by police, and well
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  Speaker 4: done to our police officers for their quick action in
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  Speaker 4: this space, and Katie will talk you know over time
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: in further detail, but it's not acceptable. We are co
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: locating our resources around police and those youth teams because
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: we start to see the behavior escalate, we see the
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: risky behavior, and so we need to put in place
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: measures to support those young people and their families because
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: children of that age quite frankly should not be out
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  Speaker 4: at that hour of the night.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 4: So it's about making sure those mechanisms go in place
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  Speaker 4: before a young person then commits an offense. But obviously
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: there's strong action. And if they do commit an offense.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: What does co locating those services make.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've got police and this is something that
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Minister Warden and I in our conversations across the Northern
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Territory co locating the youth diversion teams and the youth
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  Speaker 4: teams with police so that they can you know, children
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  Speaker 4: don't simply wake up one morning and go out and
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: commit these offenses. Their behavior leads to it, they stop
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: going to school. That risky behavior before it becomes an
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: interaction with the justice system is seen, and we need
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: to identify that and make sure that those young people
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: and their families are supported. So this is a body
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: of work that the new Minister for Police, who also
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: has the responsibility for territory families, is taking very seriously.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: All right, We might try and get her on through
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: throughout the week and find out more. Chief Minister and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Attasha Files will leave it there. Thanks so much for
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: your time this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you,