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LGBTQ Rights Attacked: Pride Bans, Political Vetoes and Violence · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 3: Carrel is the one that you need to know. Now
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  Speaker 3: it's show side.
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  Speaker 2: It is that time again. It is this Gay Week
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  Speaker 2: with Correl and Scott Jacobson. What's going on this week? Well,
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  Speaker 2: from severed pig heads to pigs in Congress. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk all about that and so much more. Don't go anywhere, No,
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  Speaker 2: it is the Carrell Show. I am Correll. Happy. Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: July twenty third, It is time for this Gay Week
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  Speaker 2: with Scott Jacobson, who'll be joining us live from Kiev
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  Speaker 2: in the u Ukraine, where he's got other things to
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  Speaker 2: worry about, them gay things, but he is still taking
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  Speaker 2: time to do that. He sent me some stories and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to start with one from me that he
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  Speaker 2: probably doesn't know about because it's US based. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: not done talking about it yet. I've been talking about it, talking, talking,
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  Speaker 2: talking about it all week and I'm going to continue.
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  Speaker 2: So here is good.
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  Speaker 4: Hellos, God, Hello and welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Ukraine, Slava, Ukraine, Slava Ukraine, all of that. Yes, welcome,
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  Speaker 2: I mean at least you're well enough to be here
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  Speaker 2: with us, which is exciting. All right, let's start this
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  Speaker 2: Gay Week with I know it's the United States, but
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  Speaker 2: it applies to international. So let's start this week with
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  Speaker 2: a story yet or two days ago, now the House
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  Speaker 2: of Representatives here in the United States, which hasn't seemed
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do anything right past a funding
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  Speaker 2: measure for defense spending and other things, but of course
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  Speaker 2: they had to tack on five and gay writers to it.
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  Speaker 2: It is now in the Senate. Will they be stripped?
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  Speaker 2: About a fifty to sixty percent chance they will be,
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  Speaker 2: but they're still a forty to fifty percent chance they
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  Speaker 2: won't be. What are those writers? I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you and tell Scott right now so then we can
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  Speaker 2: discuss them. First of all, a ban on pride flags
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  Speaker 2: and all US diplomatic facilities around the globe prohibits federal
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  Speaker 2: funds from being used to fly pride flags over US embassies, consulates,
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  Speaker 2: and other covered federal facilities. Number two, restrictions on LGBTQ
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  Speaker 2: diplomatic positions limits funding for special envoys, representatives, or coordinators
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  Speaker 2: focused on LGBTQ rights unless Congress has specifically authorized those positions.
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  Speaker 2: This could affect future LGBTQ human rights envoy positions across
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  Speaker 2: the globe. Number three banning on funding organizations that provide
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  Speaker 2: or promote gender affirming care. This bar is certain State
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  Speaker 2: department funding from going to organizations worldwide that proved or
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  Speaker 2: promote gender affirming care for transgendered people worldwide. FYI trans
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  Speaker 2: global gag rule amazing they use the word gag in
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  Speaker 2: anything gay related since we don't have a reflex prevents
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  Speaker 2: US foreign assistance from going to any organization that advocates
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  Speaker 2: for transgendered rights or in some circumstances even recognizes transgendered
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  Speaker 2: identities in their programming overseas. So not only any organization
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  Speaker 2: that deals with transgendered rights, but any organization that even
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  Speaker 2: recognizes that trans people exist. And a dei global gag
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  Speaker 2: rule restricts foreign assistance funding for any organization across the
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  Speaker 2: globe engaged in diversity, equity, inclusion, or anti discriminatory initiatives
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  Speaker 2: involving race, sex, gender ideology, or similar issues abroad. Now,
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  Speaker 2: these are not law yet. The Senate has to vote
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  Speaker 2: on them, and then the President has to sign them
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  Speaker 2: and all of that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But Scott, let's start with this because it is global,
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  Speaker 2: the the global gag order and such. This directly controverts
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  Speaker 2: the EU laws and the EU Charter, which has lesbian,
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  Speaker 2: gay trans writes in it, so right the UN Charter.
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  Speaker 2: So what this is effectively saying is if this passes,
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  Speaker 2: the United States will not be able to do business
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  Speaker 2: with anyone in the UK or any member of the UN,
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  Speaker 2: basically because it requires them to disavow gays, disavow DEI,
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  Speaker 2: and not even acknowledge that trans people exist. These five writers,
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  Speaker 2: as they're called, I I can't tell you how appalling
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  Speaker 2: this is to me. Uh and more importantly, how does
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  Speaker 2: how do they I think that the world? You know,
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  Speaker 2: this is what we what we say every week, the
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  Speaker 2: United States sets the tone for hatred. Do you know
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  Speaker 2: right now, right now, we are number twelve in Sierra Leone,
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  Speaker 2: Number twelve for the podcast do you know where Cierra?
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  Speaker 2: It's right next to a country that we have talked
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  Speaker 2: about quite a bit, Senegal. Yeah, and so as we
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  Speaker 2: talk about Senegal and other African nations, you know, we're
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  Speaker 1: Corell is the one.
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  Speaker 7: That you need to know.
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  Speaker 2: So I went with Scott Jacobson with the good Man
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  Speaker 2: Project and Rebel Rabbel, Rumble Whatever and many other publications.
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  Speaker 2: Very busy in the Ukraine right now doing all kinds
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  Speaker 2: of human rights stories and all that, which he'll catch
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  Speaker 2: us up with at the end. But how do you
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  Speaker 2: see this playing out if the Senate were to pass this?
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  Speaker 5: I mean basically this three ways the United States tends
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  Speaker 5: to impact world affairs are getting LGBT. One internal political
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  Speaker 5: turmoil that's at the tone to what you're saying before.
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  Speaker 5: Two policy changes and financing changes that derivatively affect the globe.
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  Speaker 5: And then third direct funding cuts of based ideological stances
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  Speaker 5: of typically conservative religious types that then impact is like Ghana,
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  Speaker 5: You're Ganda or right.
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  Speaker 2: So the EU and the UN are not going to
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  Speaker 2: change their charters just because of this law, but smaller countries,
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  Speaker 2: but smaller countries, African nations, other countries, they will. In
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  Speaker 2: other words, they'll say, look, we can't recognize gay people
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  Speaker 2: because then we can't do business with the United States.
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  Speaker 2: And this is exactly what I spoke about when we
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  Speaker 2: spoke about Senegal, until the United States says that in
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  Speaker 2: order to do business with us, you must recognize these people.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's going the exact other way. It's saying,
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  Speaker 2: if you recognize these people, we won't do business with you.
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  Speaker 2: And that's only going to give places in Africa and
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  Speaker 2: the Middle East more incentive to harm gays in terms
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  Speaker 2: of taking away their rights and their recognition because there's
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  Speaker 2: money in it. And now we can do business with
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  Speaker 2: the Trump administration, you know, if we get rid of
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  Speaker 2: our DEI, we can do business with Trump, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why the United States, I mean Mark Roubet,
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  Speaker 5: not particularly an idiot, probably among them, a coherent of
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  Speaker 5: this current administration, but his current frame was recently hosting
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  Speaker 5: this big conference on combating whether they're terming far left
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  Speaker 5: terrorism and saying it was underemphasized Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Hunter Biden basically called him gay. No
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Biden was on with Don Lemon and Don Lemon
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  Speaker 2: asked Hunter Biden, who no longer gives two fucks about anything.
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  Speaker 2: Don Lemon asked Hunter Biden, why do you think Republicans
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  Speaker 2: are so anti gay? And he said, it is no
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  Speaker 2: secret there is a closeted gay cabal in Washington.
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  Speaker 5: D c uh.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, I've been there with my father for my
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  Speaker 2: entire life. He goes, I'm speaking firsthand. I am not
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  Speaker 2: spreading gossip, he said, And I have the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 2: There is this closeted gay cabal of self hating gays
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  Speaker 2: who make this legislation and do these kinds of things
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  Speaker 2: because they are so self loathing. And when Don Lemon said,
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  Speaker 2: we'll give us names, and he said, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to do that, and Hunter and Don Lemon's pushing him,
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  Speaker 2: pushing him, saying, come on, give it, you know, give
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  Speaker 2: us names. He goes, no, I'm not going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, what do you want me to say that
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  Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is gay? I don't know that he is.
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  Speaker 2: And then he gave all these names. He goes that
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  Speaker 2: Mike Johnson is gay. But he gave the names of
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  Speaker 2: people that the rumors have circled about. Now. The one
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  Speaker 2: that he confirmed was Lindsay Graham. He was like, of
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  Speaker 2: course Lindsay Graham was gay. We all knew he was gay,
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  Speaker 2: that there was. It was not a you know, it
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  Speaker 2: was not a secret, you know. And yet he wrote
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  Speaker 2: these antigay requisitions, so you know, he said, well, why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't these people come out? And you mentioned Marco Rubio.
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  Speaker 2: He he eluded that an openly gay secretary of State
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  Speaker 2: may not float well with Russia or China now or
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  Speaker 2: you know, other countries. So even if Marco Rubio were gay,
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  Speaker 2: he would never come out because it would harm the
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  Speaker 2: position that he's in.
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  Speaker 5: Going to be meeting the Russian representatives for minister yeah tomorrow, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think about your little war going on there. So and
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  Speaker 2: let's let's switch to Ukraine. You were telling me a
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  Speaker 2: story before we started, which I sort of I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say, laughed at because you were so shocked
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  Speaker 2: at the cruelty and the absurdity. And I was just like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you are new to the gay news, aren't you. H
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  Speaker 2: But I guess in Ukraine, there was an incident where
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  Speaker 2: someone that was gay or supported gay's had like pigs
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  Speaker 2: heads brought to their doorstep.
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  Speaker 4: You could say, brought in in one manner of.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking, well, hurled at, thrown two.
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  Speaker 5: So okay, So this is from pink News. Pig Heads
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  Speaker 5: were into the Key beauty salon g Dot Bar over
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  Speaker 5: public support of LGBTQ plus people. It's on Lessi, Ukraine,
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  Speaker 5: ky Boulevard and Key. The building steps were doused with blood.
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  Speaker 5: The salons of management reported on Instagram. The tech took
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  Speaker 5: place yesterday July twenty. First, I have something in communication.
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  Speaker 5: If they're open to talking about a little more with
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  Speaker 5: a foreign journalist.
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  Speaker 2: Now I have to ask. I have to ask this
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  Speaker 2: because I have been gay a long time and I've
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  Speaker 2: gone through a lot of hate crimes and seen a
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  Speaker 2: lot of hate crimes. But in America we kind of
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  Speaker 2: don't use pigs heads, I think because they eat them.
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  Speaker 2: But is a pighead sort of a derogatory thing? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: were these people? I mean, why why pigs heads? Why?
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  Speaker 5: You know, Well, one way that has been documented in
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  Speaker 5: an ill treatment. I don't know if labeled torturent in
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  Speaker 5: the ill treatment of some must them captives in some conflicts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: has been to feed.
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  Speaker 2: Them pork grab We terrorized the Muslims with with pork
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  Speaker 2: and pigs heads and pigs blood and all of that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just wondered if maybe the salon owner might have
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  Speaker 2: been Muslim, because that that's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's I mean, it's an it would it would
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  Speaker 5: be an interesting speculation that wouldn't necessarily be unreasonable.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, is this kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of anti gay violins typical for Kiev or No.
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  Speaker 5: I would say that I haven't encountered individuals who do
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  Speaker 5: harbor openly homophobic views.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, that is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 5: More than Canada, and Canada has a large Ukrainian population,
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  Speaker 5: maybe three or so percent.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, now your stuff is fifty percent more
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  Speaker 2: expensive for us because trumps mattat your smoke. Did you
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  Speaker 2: see that over there? Because you're over there, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, And we helped with the biggest fires you had,
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  Speaker 5: and then we're just being gaslet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have big fires, we charge you fifty percent
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  Speaker 2: more on your goods. We have big fires, you help
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  Speaker 2: us out. That sort of explains the difference between governments
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  Speaker 2: and tone of the people, doesn't it. Well, I'm really sorry.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, if you get these people, I'd love
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  Speaker 2: to talk to them, actually bring them on, have them
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  Speaker 2: come to our segment. And second of all, you must
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  Speaker 2: extend to them from this American fag to stay strong,
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  Speaker 2: to not let this kind of ridiculousness get to them,
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  Speaker 2: and to render those pigs heads and make some tacos
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  Speaker 2: or something, because you know it's it's just look, I Scott,
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  Speaker 2: we have we don't speak off air, which we should,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't because you're busy and the time difference
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  Speaker 2: and all of that. But this week I've had trouble
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  Speaker 2: on my show or in life. Just I've had a
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  Speaker 2: rough week. I had some friends at the park as
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  Speaker 2: I engaged a MAGA person. They just sort of didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to deal with it and walked away. Instead of
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  Speaker 2: backing me up or whatever, they just and that really
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  Speaker 2: hurt me. I'm like, you know, I'm sitting here talking
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  Speaker 2: to this MAGA person trying to tell them why they're
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  Speaker 2: an asshole, and I know how you guys feel, but
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  Speaker 2: instead of backing me up on this, you just off
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  Speaker 2: you go. And there's been some other things going on
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the gay These five writers going onto
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  Speaker 2: this bill and no one in the news making a
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  Speaker 2: huge deal of it. This is one of the few
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  Speaker 2: shows that's talking about it. The HRC posted about it,
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  Speaker 2: Glad posted about it, but that was it. You search
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  Speaker 2: for gay news, you probably didn't see this story about
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  Speaker 2: these five writers on this funding bill, which actually passed
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  Speaker 2: our House already, it's already waiting in the Senate. So
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  Speaker 2: it's been rough for me because I have another gay
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  Speaker 2: friend who is like, oh, I don't pay attention to
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  Speaker 2: any of that stuff, and you know, you paid too
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  Speaker 2: much attention to it. You really need a husband, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to take all your mind off of this. And I
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  Speaker 2: just thought, no, apathy is not the answer here. But
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I don't want to coin the phrase
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  Speaker 2: from the movie Resistance is feudal. But it's almost looking
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  Speaker 2: like in terms of the United States at least, that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to get their way. They're they're going to
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  Speaker 2: they're coming for same sex marriage. A pastor that has
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  Speaker 2: prayed at the Pentagon at the behest of Pete Hegsbirth
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  Speaker 2: because he is Pete Hegsbirth's pastor, did an interview yester
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  Speaker 2: or two days ago, yeah where where he said that
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  Speaker 2: gay people should be taken out of society and the
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  Speaker 2: punishment for gay sex should be execution.
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  Speaker 4: That having the vote not believe full democracy.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he said that in the same interview that women
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  Speaker 2: should not vote, and I was yeah, but I would
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  Speaker 2: s left this off as fringe. But this guy has
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  Speaker 2: the ear of the Secretary of Defense and is praying
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  Speaker 2: at our Pentagon. So this is not just hyperbole. This
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  Speaker 2: is not just some idiot ranting and raving in his
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  Speaker 2: own church. He actually has the ear of policymakers. And
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  Speaker 2: I saw I saw another article that from Newsweek or Time,
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  Speaker 2: and it said there's an alarming trend right now in
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  Speaker 2: the United States that we are using the same verbiage
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  Speaker 2: as Vladimir Putin in our anti gay legislation to criminalize homosexuality.
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  Speaker 2: That we're using the same terminology that Putin uses, leading,
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  Speaker 2: which would lead to criminalization. And I believe that's where
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  Speaker 2: they're going. They want to criminalize being gay in the
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  Speaker 2: United States.
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  Speaker 5: And people say about professional bodies, the the ICD and
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  Speaker 5: the DSM, this as a quote unquote disorder decades, that
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  Speaker 5: it's not even an issue.
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  Speaker 2: They don't care you. So, so it's been it's been
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  Speaker 2: a I don't want to say a rough week. I
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  Speaker 2: just want to say this week, I kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: like they're winning, and you know they do. Also in Ukraine, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you had some since you're there now so much, you
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  Speaker 2: guys had some progress, but you also had some regression.
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  Speaker 2: The Human Rights Campaign, I believe, or the Human Rights Watch,
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  Speaker 2: the Human Rights Group what is it? No, yes, well,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead tell the story.
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  Speaker 5: They reported no significant legislative chaines sprailed to BTQ rights
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  Speaker 5: in Ukraine during early twenty six.
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  Speaker 4: I was in the middle of an out.
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  Speaker 5: So they saided two court victories, protected pride events, stalled
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  Speaker 5: partnership legislation in twenty six documented cases all being homophobia
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  Speaker 5: or transphobia, including six classified as hate crimes. And I
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  Speaker 5: did check it up the pig's head. It's represented in
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  Speaker 5: two ways. One they can use it to desecrate holy
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  Speaker 5: sites and for degradation social degradation, So that's private what
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  Speaker 5: this one was at the salon. The other case is
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  Speaker 5: they typically actually use it as anti semitic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we won in court, but we
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  Speaker 2: got set back in the parliament. Now is the setback
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  Speaker 2: in the parliament that nothing happened for gays in the parliament.
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  Speaker 2: That's the setback that there was no progress.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's there's some there's there's some nuances here.
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  Speaker 5: So the parliament, there's a lot of hated politicians. Basically,
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  Speaker 5: the brank ordering is something like hating Putin, hating the Kremlin,
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  Speaker 5: hating a lot of their politicians. That's kind of a
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  Speaker 5: lot of sentiment here in Ukraine. But a big thing
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  Speaker 5: is socially, more and more people are orienting towards EU
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  Speaker 5: standard values.
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  Speaker 2: So well, they're fighting over semantics. They're fighting over the
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  Speaker 2: term family member and what a family with the definition
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  Speaker 2: of a term family member because they never heard Sister
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  Speaker 2: Sledge we a family.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, excellent song.
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  Speaker 2: It is an excellent song. I got all my sisters
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  Speaker 2: with me, which would exclude say.
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  Speaker 4: With the Goldberg.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, but I mean it was in
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  Speaker 2: the bird cage. It was. It's been in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of gay movies.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I actually performed with Kathy Sledge from Sister Sledge in Dayton,
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  Speaker 2: Ohio at a gay Pride festival and when she sang
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  Speaker 2: that song, she brought me out to sing it with her.
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  Speaker 2: So I have sung we Are Family with Kathy Sledge
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  Speaker 2: of Sister Sledge. I was one of the I was
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  Speaker 2: one of the sisters in the Sister Sledge. I really was.
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  Speaker 2: I was out there giving.
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  Speaker 7: It to him.
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  Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, how.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, princesses, but you were the only queen.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I was the only queen. My mother is dead, so
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: I'm queen. Since more than twenty thousand proposed amendments were
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: submitted to the bill over in the Ukraine, its vote
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: in the second reading is expected no earlier than autumn
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six, and that's because they have to
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: get through all of the twenty thousand proposed amendments. It
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: would nullify civil partnerships as the last amends of the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: current family Code, which would be replaced by new civil code.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And in that civil code, they're fighting over what family
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: member means. And so they haven't made the decision yet,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: but there have been two key judicial victories. On February
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: twenty fifth of twenty six, the Supreme Court of Ukraine
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: ruled that rejected an appeal by the anti gay organization
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: All Together. Isn't that weird? Their name is all Together,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: but they're an anti gay organization, I guess, just not
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: us seeking to overturn Disaniavsky District Court and Kiev Court
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of Appeal rulings that recognized the facto family relationships between
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: same sex partners, and Carive District Administrative Court rulings ordering
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a military recruitment center in car Leaves to remove from
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: military registration a person who had legally changed their gender
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: from male to female.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: So now is show.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And by the way, your pride march, which you didn't
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: go to, had about five thousand people. It was the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: largest in Key's history, So there were some victories there,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So that, you know, that's good.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Social opinion is way ahead of legislation right now.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: It's always the way it is, isn't it. That's I mean,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: that's always the way it is. The people alway, he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: moved faster than the legislature. All right out of Metro Weekly.
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  Speaker 2: A story that you were interested in. We might see
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: this different ways. A lot of people see this story
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: as a win. I see it as a are you kidding?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: A man got seven years for shooting and paralyzing his
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: gay neighbor. If you look at the man that was
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: the shooter, he looks as queer as can be. And
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: maybe that was a dispute, you know, it's like, hey, dude,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: are you gay? But of course this is in Florida,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: where no gay should live. A Jacksonville man who shot
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: his gay neighbor, leaving him partially paralyzed, has been sentenced.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Now that's the good news. He was sentenced. You know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: here's the bad news, seven years. So he'll be out
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in three seven years. Tyler Getchel, he's thirty. He pled
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: guilty to a reduced charge of attempted manslaughter for shooting
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: twenty four year old Kyle McFarlane during a dispute over
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: alleged trespassing. You're on my lawn, you know.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: He was initially charged with attempted murder, but they knocked
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it down. They requested a downward departure or a less
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: severe sentence, arguing that he had no prior felony convictions
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because somehow that makes it better. Had served five years
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: in the US Navy, because I guess that's an excuse
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: to shoot a queer, and expressed remorse for the shooting
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: because he got caught and remained at the scene instead
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of fleeing. So I at, once again, you know, some
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: big deal that he actually stayed. Now, responding on Facebook
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to a comment questioning the length of gechel sentence.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: They said that Gil could serve additional time if he
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: fails to pay restitution for the medical expenses stemming from
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the shooting and sense he's broke as fuck. He'll probably
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: be in jail for because you don't look like him
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and not be broke. Should I should? I can show
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: my viewer. Wait, no, I can't. I can show my
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: viewers or our viewers today. The guy, I'm too bad,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it's too bad. He's kind of heart, kind of hot
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: man gets seven years for shooting and paralyzing LGBTQ neighbor. Uh,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: that's that's the article you sent it over. I love
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: his dog. By the way, it looks like a big ember.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Looks like a giant ember. But you know, okay, great
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the guy got prosecuted, and great the guy got you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: god jail time. But seven years? And why wasn't this
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a hate crime? You know? He said, Oh, it was
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: for trespassing. But come on, it's like the gay didn't
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: play into it. Of course it did, but in their
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: infinite wisdom, they decided to not hate crime it. So
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: in Romania, Uh, if if when you're done looking for Dracula,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the Romanian city has held out against authorizing the Pride march.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: The western city of Ridea again has said no to
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a Pride parade for the fourth consecutive year, adding two
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: concerns about backsliding on gay rights in the EU member country. Now,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: as a member of the EU, they have to obey
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: certain rules, but letting pride parades happen is not one
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: of the rules. They don't have to allow pride. They
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: just can't, you know, discriminate or jail people or whatever,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: but they don't have to let them march. So you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: were saying that in Ukraine, you guys want to become
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: more like the EU in terms of LGBTQ rights. Well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Romania is in the EU, and yet they're not letting
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a Pride march go on. You know, I don't know why.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know how we'd tell the
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: lesbians from the gay men in Romania. Don't they all
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: have mustaches? I mean, I don't know, but you know, sorry,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: but Romanian women tend to have facial hair and they're
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: anti gay. I mean, if you've seen a Romanian woman,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, but over in Romania's western city,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of Areta. It's about two undre threfty kilometers separating of
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: them from Budapestan Hungary. But the two cities are very,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: very far apart. The only thing uniting them is that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: they did not allow Pride marches, which is kind of sad. However,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Hungary's capital did host a Pride event this year. Romania
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: still no. So Hungary has moved forward, Romania has not.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And I guess on the grand scale of things, that's
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: how it goes. One weight gets put on this side. Okay,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: we've got, you know, the scale tipping to the good
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: because Romania or Hungary allowed the Pride parade, and then
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you've got the weight on this side. Wait a minute,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Roumania didn't, so the scale evens back out again. I mean,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many gays are in Romania, but
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I hope they get a parade sooner than later. They've
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: tried for four years. By the way, there was one
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen proposed routes. One hundred and fifteen propose
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: routes for the parade nos and Romania said, notice, everyone's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: decision is yeah. I mean, you know, they said the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: routes are unavailable because they overlap with other authorized events,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty different routes and not one. I mean,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: they're like, look, we'll go through the sewers. They're like, no,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I've been unlock committees and stuff. I don't know why
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you need even more than five or ten proposals, Like.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Well, they even proposed routes outside of the city. They
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: proposed routes outside of the city center. They said, Okay,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: if you won't have it, let us have it downtown here,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: We'll have it in this suburb, you know. And they're like, no, no.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: It's just being unfair to the point of acknowledging that
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: it's a big true.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Well, under Romanian law, local authorities cannot ban a public march.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Their role is to identify practical solutions to ensure that
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the events can take place safely. So they haven't banned
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the march. Okay, they didn't come out and say you
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: can't have your Pride march. They just banned all of
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the proposed routes. Talk about a technical talk about a technicality.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: We're not against it, and we're not saying no to it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: We're just saying it's unfeasible because we're saying no to
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty passages.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Uh, there will still be an unauthorized march through
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the city.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It was attended last year by several hundred young people mostly.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: There were some scuffles. However, the police did not escalate
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the situation and they did impost fines totaling about thirty
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: nine hundred euros on organizations that participated in the march,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: but they did not arrest any of the leaders of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the march.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: So Roman that's a decent could change.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, four thousand euros in Romania. That's yeah, that's the castle, you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Know, great doctor Jim's castle.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But it's just sad that how do I say this.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. But I mean, obviously they're
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: not bad against it if they let the unoperaze when happened,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: and that all they did would find the people, you
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's like they didn't go out there, like.
• 29:24
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are back this Gay Week with Corel
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  Speaker 2: and with Scott Jacobson, Scott Dean Jacobson. I believe I
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: saw that on an email. I'm oh, well, la la la,
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  Speaker 2: Happy Thursday, July twenty third, it is this Gay Week.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be back on Monday with more of this frivolity.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was. I was almost crying during the break,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: you know, during the break as a photo November that pops.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of photos of her during the show.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: But she of course is right here next to me
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: on her pillow, a pillow that I got her when
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: she was six weeks old. It is it's huge. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: got out of the garage sale and she walked by
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: this garage sale she was like eight weeks old, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: she plopped on the pillow and I'm well, that's your pillow, obviously,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and I realized and I I started crying. Is Ember
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: because we're always together, and I mean that when she
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: was a puppy, she was on my desk during the show,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: she was a desk dog, so I could keep track
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of her because I had a big yard and I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: didn't want to lose her out in the pond or something.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You know, she has been beside me for more than
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: twenty five hundred shows because she's ten going on eleven.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And oh, she's ten going on eleven. And I know
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: one day in the not too distant future, I will
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: look down and she will be there. And that just
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: got me during the break, told you, I'm having a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: rough week, all right. So here in the United States,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: another thing going unreported, except the left is reporting it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Pete Hagsbeth, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio. They have all said
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: they want to go after and start prosecuting left win
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: groups as domestic terrorist, as people undermining the security of America.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: And this is a global based at the conference of
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: over sixty countries taking part.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, So that being said, A regional human rights organization
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: has expressed grave concerns in the Philippines over Indonesia's classification
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of the alleged dissemination of gay culture as a non
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: military threat, saying that the move could legitimize discrimination and
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: state repression against gay people. In a statement issued Wednesday,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: it questioned this group. Accian Soji questioned the basis of
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the Indonesian government's, particularly President Proboo Sibianto, in classifying the
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: alleged dissemination of gay culture as a threat to national sovereignty,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: territory integrity, and national security. This is the exact same
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: verbiage that they're using here in the unit uited States.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: And if you don't think, like I said in the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: beginning story, that they're going to classify gay organizations in
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: with the left leaning organizations and thus designate them as
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I guess enemies of the state, then you're fooling yourself.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And it's already happening in the Philippines.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: And they need to do this in democratic societies in
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: terms of proposing it, to make it through in the
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: CD and autocredit societies early on automated here, then you
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: make some impremature of legitimacy, and this is one way
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: that they do it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: LGBTQ people are not threats to national security. There are
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: members of families and faith based communities. They are students,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: workers and service providers who keep communities alive, said Rihan Silvero,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: executive director of the Asian SOG Caucus. Why the fuck
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six do we have to remind people
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: that gays are not a threat to national fucking security.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I can't even tell you, I was about to say,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I can't even tell you how many gay people have
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: served throughout the years in the army, in the Navy,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and in many other you know, which.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Is technically most framings. The gayest branch of it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Is actually and marines as well. You know the difference
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: between a GA marine and a straight marine.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: What's the difference a twelve pack of.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Beer and a shot at Jack Daniels.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: That's true, true.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, as we said with these five amendments,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: are these writers here in the United States, It isn't
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: just US. When the US starts these global gag orders
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and no DEI and we're going to start prosecuting the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: left it, then it then gives countries other license, like
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the Philippines and the Asian countries to do the same thing.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And when they're challenged, they'll say, look, the US is doing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: It well then, And just to be just be quickly
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: clarifying to the A S E.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: A N.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: It's a huge collection of Asians groups and countries and
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: organizations and the way they perked up is.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, I guess to be sex orientation identity.
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  Speaker 2: All right. I know we bicker like a married couple,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: but we're not so I love this story because it
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: happens here in the United States so much. Look at
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Christine husband with his big balloon titties. Uh you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and yet she's so Antiquay this next story, it happens
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: so much. And as we are topping the charts in
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Sierra Leone, the daughter of a Senegalese anti lgb D
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: two l Anti LGBTQ advocate has been arrested. And guess
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: what for?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I tell you like this one?
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Lessianism, uh so yes? And drug offenses. Well, if you're
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a lesbian, you have to do drugs. Uh, I'm sorry,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't look at a naked you know, what
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: about some kind of drug?
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Well, sure, you know, it's just it's just it's just
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: it's just extra at its stress, particularly in many of
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: these countries.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Senegal police have arrested the daughter of a prominent anti
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: gay advocate, Maimy Moctar Guie, on drug and lesbianism charges
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: or Mame Fatao beIN at Tao Gulia, known as Rose,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: was charged in the High Court of Dakar on Monday,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: along with her boyfriend and two others. Along with her boyfriend,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I am confused. All four face charges of drug possessions.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah yeah, all face charges of drug possession
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: and drug trafficking, though the alleged evidence did not create
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the impression of a large drug trafficking operation. The alleged
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: evidence in support of the lesianism charge consists of erotic
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: videos that police found on FB Guiere's phone, which she
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: said she downloaded out of curiosity. Okay, a couple things.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: They could be her boyfriends. First of all, because straight
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: men love to watch lesbian port that's the first thing.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Second of all, curiosity, what she had grown as woman
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: she knows what lesbians do the same thing my boyfriend does,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: just with less facial hair. I'm muster from Romania. In
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: recent months, an anti gay panic has swept Senegal, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: it has and that's terrible, leading to hundreds of arrest
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And again people act like the United States is not
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: heading in this direction. It is, you know, And in
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Senegal they've arrested hundreds of people and enacted a law
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: doubling the penalties for same sex intimacy double huh.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Or states there are dozens of medium to high profile
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: pastors and priests who go undranged homilies speaking to what
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: they would.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Like to do.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Do we have to go back to Hunter Biden saying that,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you know, the big cabal of closeted Republicans. Look, when
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I'm in West Hollywood, Okay, I don't use Grinder for
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: hooking up. I don't, but I do launch the app
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: sometimes to just see what gay people are around me,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you know, like if I'm in Ireland, It's like, what
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: are the gays around here?
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: You know, because it gives you a you know, it
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: gives you a photo layout. So in West Hollywood, home
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to the gays, Grinder never crashes San Francisco Castro grinder
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: never crashes. Republican national convention grinder crashes, large religious conventions
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: grinder crashes. And why is that? Because there's so many
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: people at one time, all trying to use it, you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I mean this notion. So so mame, well Rose will
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: call her Rose because that's what you know. She didn't
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: want to be called mame. She is the vice president
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of Senegal's powerful anti LGBTQ is Lamist group. Jam Ra
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: has been a prominent advocate of the wave of anti
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: gay repression. He did not deviate from that position after
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: learning of his dog the arrest. Wow. He even called
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: on the justice system to show exemplary severity, including and
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: especially towards his own daughter, so he won't be getting
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Father of the Year award.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: The parents that do that, yeah yeah, I know, yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: the audience, it's just.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: They they just don't do it when their kids are
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: in jail.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, double down. He also has to
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: keep it up. I mean in that way, I mean
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: in the sense of he probably no.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: And also this is the extreme rhetoric usually has to
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: come with doubling down more than anything else.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Now, your neighbor there to the Ukraine, Poland they're president
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: has vetoed bill that would recognize same sex couples, which
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: is odd because they are a member of the EU
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: and they are supposed to recognize them.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: It's not clean, it's it's it's it's an aggregate betterness
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: right to a lot of other places.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: The bill would have created cohabitation contracts, which would have
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: given some legal recognition to same sex couples when it
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: comes to medical information, property rights, and funerals. Basically, it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: would have been the equivalent of art. Yeah, well I
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: had to sue for one of those rights. Basically, this
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: would be granting domestic partnership rights. Basically, However, when we
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: had domestic partnerships in that marriage, they did not grant
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the right to sue for wrongful death, which of course
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I had to fix after seven years and a trip
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: to the State Supreme Court. So the bills were part
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of reforms promised when Prime Minister Donald Tusk took office
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, which included measures regarding LGBTQ people's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: rights and abortion rights. The current ruling coalition in Parliament
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: is considered liberal and pro European, and they still didn't
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: pass the bill. So that's not really encouraging, is it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: No upset, Yeah, because it's just I don't know, it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: again and again it's it's stuff that should be obvious
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: based on any of the conventions or whatever else these
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: countries are signatory too, and then just completely yes.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: And according to gay groups in Poland, they said, today's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: vito of the bill shows that even the absolute minimum
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of rights which this bill would have been intended to provide,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: is just too much for this president. And you have
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: to wonder, you know, it doesn't even affect the present,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: it affects nobody. A former equality minister and New Left
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: member of Parliament, Katazangya Kotula, said that uh Nor Ricky
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: turned his back on two million people living today in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: informal relationships. Earlier this year, a gay couple who traveled
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to Berlin to get married won the right in court
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to have their marriage recognized in Poland based on EU
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: laws of which Poland is a member. So if you
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: get married outside of Poland and you come to Poland,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: your marriage is recognized. If you're in Poland living with
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: your partner and want some sort of rights, you don't
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: get of course, that is such an incongruity of law.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's an incongruity of laws for convenience
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: of cultural sentiment.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: That's a nice way of saying he wants to get votes. Yes,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I mean he's only doing this to please his conservative
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: you know people you know.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Would sure there are substantial numbers of Catholics.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Now. I heard this story this week. I used to
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: write for Metro Weekly and out of Washington, d C.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And I heard this and I was worried. But when
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I read the story, I thought, oh good, he wasn't
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: in the bar. So this nutjob went to this gay
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: dive bar, which are the most fun things in the world.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Gay dive bars are so much fun. They just really are.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, any dive bar is really fun, and
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: gays are usually a hit, and dive bars a lot
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: of gays are afraid to go into just straight dive bars.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I've gone into many, and trust me, I was a
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: hit and usually found someone to go home with. Staff
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: and customers took cover inside of Sharky's after an armed
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: man open fire from the parking lot. Now some people there,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: you know. This is in Asheville, North Carolina, where my
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: friend Bruce Steel, former editor of The Advocate lives he
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: and his husband Chris. The police there shot and killed him.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Who will not my friend Chris, but shot and killed
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: the man in the parking lot who allegedly opened fire?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Why don't have to say allegedly. I think he had
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the gun. There are bullet holes in the wall. He
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: opened fire on a gay bar from its parking lot.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Why Why was he? Why did he shoot up the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: are because he was kicked out? Sharkis or Shaky's I'm sorry. Shaky's,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: which markets itself as a gay dive bar for drag, karaoke,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: DJs and cheap booze my kind of place, said in
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a statement that the individual whose behavior caused concerned was
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: asked to leave the bar during the early morning hours.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: He was later seen with a gun in the bar's
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: parking lot. When staff and customers became aware of the
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: arm man, they locked the doors. They called nine to
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: one one, and they followed the dispatcher's instructions, moving everyone
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: away from the windows and onto the bar onto the floor.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Gun Shots were then fired outside the bar. Can you
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: imagine being at a club It's one thirty in the
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: morning and all of a sudden they bring you to
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the middle of the bar and say, okay, we're one
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: lay on the floor. I mean, this is this is ridiculous.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: It is degrading. Asheville police officers arrived at the scene
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and returned fire, striking the man, who later died from
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: his injuries. In accordance with protocol, the North Carolina State
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Bureau of Investigation will investigate the shooting. Shakey's confirmed Sharky's
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Shaky Shakey's. Shakey's confirmed that no staff members or customers
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: were harmed in the shooting. The bar reopened for regular
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: business on Wednesday afternoon. There is no word on whether
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the man was gay or not. He was at the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: gay Dive bar. He was acting erratic and you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I mean freaky even for a gay bar. So I mean,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta be acting pretty fucking weird to be thrown
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: out of a gay bar, and so he was, and
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: then of course he got a gun and started shooting inside.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: This story is a very important reminder of how quick
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: action is needed, and I applaud the Ashville police because
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: we talked weeks ago on the anniversary of the Upstairs Lounge.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: This is exactly what happened. There was a patron in
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: the upstairs Lounge in New Orleans. He was thrown out
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: for being ridiculous. He came back, locked the or at
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the stairs, set the place on fire,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and one of the biggest massacres of and gay history occurred.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: So this could have been much much worse, and we
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: applaud the Ashville police for coming and the bar owners
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: for quick and decisive action. I know it was demeaning
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: to lay everyone in the middle of the floor and everything,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: but I'm just I'm so glad that nobody died because
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: this is exactly what happened at the Upstairs Lounge, except
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: instead of shooting a gun, they started a fire. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: both of them were disgruntled patrons who were thrown out
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: and then created violence. There is no word if he
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: is gay or not. I'm not going to say this
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: is not unique to bars. There are many people who
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: get thrown out of bars who then come back and
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: try to start shit. It's why they have bouncers, it's
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: why they have security. I don't know if this is
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: gonna I know this is gonna sound odd, but they're
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: using facial recognition technology in the Castro and the gays
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: are really mad about it. So when you go into
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: a bar, they're scanning your ID and your face, just
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like at the airport, and they keep that information for
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: thirty days. And other bars have these now, and if
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you are thrown out for something like this, you then
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: go on the system and any other bar where you
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: scan your face, they're not going to let you in.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: So you're not just eighty six. So you're not just
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: eighty six from that bar, you're eighty six from all
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: the others. When I hear stories like this, I don't
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: know if that kind of technology would help. Have this
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: guy behaved this way at other bars? Has he you know?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Is he just a freak? Is this a one time thing?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: You know? I don't know, But I do know that
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: no gay person was harmed, and I have no problem
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: with the crazy person with the gun being killed. So
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: so bravo to Shakey's, bravo to Ashville police. And thank
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: god it didn't end like the upstairs lounge. Now I
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: just saw. Oh yeah, I know that you probably maybe
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: did or did not see this story. But yesterday or Wednesday, Wednesday,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: it was announced that under Donald Trump, seventeen hundred HIV
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: organizations across the globe were shuttered.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Someone was talking. You might have been a tone about this.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, this is this is, this is this
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: is actually significantly bad.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: It is and people are going to die because of
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: this because they're not going to be able to get
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: medications testing and that sort of thing. And yeah, terrible,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: terrible deaths. And this is directly caused by Donald Trump.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Directly caused by Donald Trump. And seventeen hundred. I thought
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: it was one hundred and seventy and then I rechecked
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: the story. It's seventeen hundred AIDS organizations.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the really key part. It's not people,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: it's organizations who serve people.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Right, So let's say every organization serves only one hundred people.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: You know, you're still at thousands of people, you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and seventy thousand people. But we know
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: they serve more than that, you know, they we know
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: they serve a large number of people. And I lived,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you know through AIDS. I'm a pandemic survivor. I'm still
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: HIV negative because you have to have sex to contract
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the virus. I'm holding up for you, Scott, I'm holding up.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: We'll finish up when we come back about this and
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: another story that just came out today from the United
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: States SCC, which I'm not sure you're gonna believe, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: at this point, the anniversary of that was two days ago,
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: by the way, the anniversary of him being really yeah,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: it was two days ago. Yeah, I guess graphic.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Now is show side?
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: All right? We are back with Scott and Corell this
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: gay week. Don't forget to go to YouTube dot com,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: forward slash really Corell, like and subscribe. If you want
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: to support the show, it's Patreon dot com, forward slash
• 51:23
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• 51:26
  Speaker 2: in Sierra Leone listening, email contact at reallycorrel dot com.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I want to know how you're listening to my show
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: because I'm not even sure your government would let my
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: show into your country. So how are you listening to it?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I know you are. We've been on the chart there
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: for two weeks in Sierra Leone. So if you're listening
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: in Sierra Leone, contact the show. All right, today yesterday?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: What is today? Today's Thursday the twenty third, Yesterday Wednesday
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: the twenty second. In the United States, it has been
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: proposed that the FC by the FCC and well by
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Trump that the and it was by him. It says
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump asks FCC to put warning label on any
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: show with LGBTQ content to inform parents that there is
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: LGBTQ content and or gender ideology or gender non not
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: gender non binary ideology. He literally wants a warning label
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: before any show with any gay people in it.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: This is perfect because I loved Carlin's bits about the FCC,
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: and as a nice tap into as we're three minutes
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: into twenty third, it's actually my birthday.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Now, Happy birthday two. Yeah, happy birthday too, Yeah, Happy birthday.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I sang that with Stevie Wonder. Actually that was for Nelson.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: That's a song that was for Nelson Mandela for his
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: birthday that Stevie did. And my friend Vesta Williams, who
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: is now dead, a lot of my friends dead. Vesta
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: was turning fifty. Stevie was at her birthday party. I
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: of course was I'm we were Vesta and I were
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: bfs and I was at her birthday party, of course,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: and Stevie we were doing the cake and Vesta said,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: hey boo, she called me boo. I said, what short
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: for boulet by the way for my last name. So
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: hey boo. She goes, get the microphone. There's a microphone over.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: We're at a house. I don't even know they had
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: a sound system, but she's I'll get the microphone. Stevie
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: wants to sing, you know, happy birthday, So will you
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: lead him up to where the cake is? So I
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: go over and I say, mister Wonder, you know, I'm
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: to lead you up to where the cake is. He goes, oh,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I can find it, after all, I drove here and
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I was it was by Braill. Yeah exactly, and he said,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: call me Stevie. And so we go up and I'm
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: holding the microphone for Steve wat Yes, yes, there was
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: a watch on his wrist, but it had Brail on it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Because I asked him, I said, jorn a watch. He goes,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it's Braille. I'm like okay. So I'm holding the microphone
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: up for him and he's, you know, he's talking about
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Vesta and how special her voice is and what a
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: powerhouse talent she is. And then the cake comes out
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: and he starts singing, you know, happy birthday Vesta, and
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh my god, you know, and he caps
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: my soldier, my shoulder and he says, come on, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I look, and I go wedd He goes sing with
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: me and I was like, holy fuck, So of course
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I did. Uh. And afterwards he's all, are you a singer?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I said, I am a singer, and he's like I
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: could tell. And I'm like, well are you? And he
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: just laughed. I said, you're not bad yourself. Do you
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: do this for a living? And he's like, you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: he was laughing. Uh. Anyway, so they want to put
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: a warning. Look. I interviewed Tipper Gore when she did
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the Parents Resource Parents Music Resource Center PMRC, which is
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: the group that wanted to put you know, notices on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: records because of the lyrical content. And I told her
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I had no problem with that, especially some of the
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: rap records, because hey, you know, a kid's gonna buy
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: it if they want it. You know what I'm saying,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: what we have a rating system, and if he wants
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: gay content to be rated PG thirteen or something, then
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: do that. This notion that you have to put a
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: gay warning, although it will make it easier for me
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: to find shows to watch because I'll just watch all
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: the shows that have the gay warning.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: That's the funny part.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: There's this whole thing about book banning or religion institutions.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Many people who were prominent in the secular circles, they
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: would then they would report this is also for myself.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Great now I know which books to actually read.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: In the United States, when Donald Trump last year announced
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: his anti LGBTQ book, every single book that was banned,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: their sales shot up five hundred people wanted to read
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: the books. And we'll leave with this. In Lima, Ohio,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: a hotbed of gayness, a billboard went up that said
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: no child has zero dads and no child has zero moms.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: And the zero dads and zero moms text is rainbow text.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: They're trying to say that gays can't be parents. And
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: so a gay rights organization has decided to sue the city. However,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: and I hate to I hate to say this, they're
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: going to lose because that organization has the right to
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: put up a billboard under freedom of speech. They have
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: a right, you know, and you know they have a
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: right if you don't like it, put up a billboard
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: right across that advocates for gay parents, you know what
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I mean. When Andrew and I were on KFI, the
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: me gay couple in history to have a drivetime radio show.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: At that point, KFI Prop eight was happening in California,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: which would outlaw gay marriage. KFI took pro Prop eight
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: ads and ran them in our show. We were furious,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: here were the gay couple, and we're hearing ads about
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: how gay shouldn't be able to get married. So what
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: we did is every time one of those ads would
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: run when we came back from break, no matter what
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: topic we were talking about, we would immediately talk about
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Prop eight, how it was stupid, and how it should
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: be defeated, just immediately. And when the program director called us.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: When the program director called us in about disparaging one
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: of their advertisers, I said, you took the ad under
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: freedom of speech. Well, we have the same freedom of speech,
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and I'd love for you to fire us over the
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: fact that we are countering that ad because it will
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: do our career as a world of good dude, you
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: know now and me and him are still friends. Me
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: and David holl are still friends. And do you know
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: about ten years ago he apologized to me for that.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: It took him fifteen years, but he said we should
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: have never taken that ad. It was disrespectful, it was wrong.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: You know, we we shouldn't have run it during your show.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: If we were going to take the ad, we should
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: not have run it during your show. And he was right,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: they shouldn't have, but they did. And so I look
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: at this and say from that, I'm viewing this billboard
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: from that perspective, from a gay person who's been on
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: commercial radio and had an anti gay ad run during
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: our show, and then we were told we had the
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: right to refute it, so we did. So they have
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: the right to. I am Corel Bee, who you want
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: to be? So on them, hurt anybody. Hopefully Scott will
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: be back next week. I only say hopefully because bombs
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: are dropped, so you know, we don't know if his
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: internet will be will be good, But Scott, thank you.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Stay safe. All right, We're gone, we're out, We're by.
• 58:54
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• 59:00
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• 59:15
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