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Eagles Trades And Momentum (PST Episode 641) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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  Speaker 1: and a half years strong. Got a great show coming
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  Speaker 1: your way this week.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Warren.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with the Eric Leonard and if you're watching
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube, he is Edgecombe.
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  Speaker 3: Stand how you know buddy seventy seven? Can I do
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  Speaker 3: seven for my I don't know how to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. You look like you're doing a circle.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's it's the crip. Actually, yeah, that's exactly lifelong.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to us on audio, just go over to YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that right now. Go ahead, Yeah, it's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I'm watching us, so I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: I forget to talk to the non YouTubers and YouTubers. Yes, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: now I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Six Ers lost again tonight.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get into that night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tough one against last night against the Bulls. Still
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  Speaker 3: love this team though I'm not we can get into
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  Speaker 3: it later, but like, yeah, they're fun to watch. That's
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  Speaker 3: the Loottom line. They were not fun to watch the
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: last two years, I would say so.
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  Speaker 1: Last March it was horrendous to watch this team. Oh
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: it was horrendous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone was like Nick Nurse is a bad coach.
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  Speaker 3: He's not a bad coach when he has players right,
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  Speaker 3: and just a lot of things are jumping out with
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  Speaker 3: this team. It's like we should be excited about them.
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  Speaker 3: They should be excited about the Flyers. Yes, I'm watching
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  Speaker 3: the Flyers now. All right, let's unpack this, okay, folks. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: we have known Eric for all these years. I always
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: do the Flyers talk when Lenn is on because Lenn
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  Speaker 3: and I have gotten into the Flyers and always have.
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  Speaker 3: You know, for years we've been Flyers fans. And I
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  Speaker 3: know you've watched Flyers stuff here and there, Eric, but
• 2:27
  Speaker 3: like over the years.
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  Speaker 1: You've kind of gotten away from it. But now your son,
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  Speaker 1: your amazing son, is really getting into hockey, and it's
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: getting you into it well basically because you have to
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: sit there and listen to it and watch it, I
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  Speaker 1: should say, But I love it. You're getting into the hockey.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: But they're not like the Sixers. I mean, they're not
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  Speaker 3: as good as the Sixers twent wise, not yet. But
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  Speaker 3: they're young and fun to watch. That's the one thing
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  Speaker 3: that jumps out about this team is like, it's not like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like the two thousand and eighteen nineteen Flyers.
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  Speaker 3: We had some aging players, some young players, and it
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  Speaker 3: just wasn't meshing. Yeah, it's and there was that weird
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  Speaker 3: feeling like what's the direction? Yeah kind of thing, like
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  Speaker 3: even I can watch this now and be like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of understand what they're doing here. It's gonna
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  Speaker 3: take a little bit of time.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: They just they beat the Canadians last night and a shootout.
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  Speaker 3: Watch that it was great. Yes, as my son pointed
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  Speaker 3: out earlier, they did lose to the worst team in
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  Speaker 3: the league before that. Ye okay, And yeah, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually in because well he kind of dragged me
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  Speaker 3: into it. But still fun to watch.
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: I think he might get a Meatchcov jersey. He might
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  Speaker 1: actually get a meatchkov a Matte baby birthday. Oh yep,
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  Speaker 1: he wants one for his birthday. I know, when the hell,
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: by the way, when did hockey jerseys get to like
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  Speaker 1: two hundred dollars? Oh, I know, it's crazy, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. I have a fiftieth anniver. Back when the
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  Speaker 1: Flyers were years ago, they were celebrating their fiftieth anniversary
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  Speaker 1: have a sane gost despair of course, not on the
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  Speaker 1: team fifty. I still love it, still wear it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. It was like it was well over two
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking at the Mitch Coalffs jerseys on on
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  Speaker 3: any NHL doc and I was just like, is there
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  Speaker 3: a bargain bin Mitch conersey. You know, I'm gonna have to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, spend a little cash here. But hell, even
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  Speaker 3: the throwbacks, like the Schultzi I looked at, was like
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty, and that was a clearance Schultz
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  Speaker 3: hasn't laced him up in forty years, a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeap.
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  Speaker 3: That really bummed me out because I bought my Edge
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  Speaker 3: Comb shirt for like thirty bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you just get him a Meachkov shirt, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but he went he wants to jersey though, right, he
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  Speaker 1: wants the jersey.
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  Speaker 2: It's the jersey, all right, gotta get it. You gotta
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  Speaker 2: get it for him.
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  Speaker 3: He turns thirteen next week, so it's a big it's big.
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  Speaker 1: You're a teenager. You gotta get Oh, that's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a memorable one. I'd be memorable, man.
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  Speaker 3: So sold.
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  Speaker 2: We really are, folks.
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  Speaker 1: Eric and I were talking before the show just about
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: our kids are getting older, they're doing really good things,
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  Speaker 1: they're making some pretty good decisions, and we're just fucking old.
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  Speaker 2: We just are.
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  Speaker 3: We're just here not to get in the way at
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  Speaker 3: this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's really yeah, exactly. Well, we got a good show.
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  Speaker 1: We got a good show everybody. We're gonna get into.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't talked baseball, haven't talked Phillies in a little while,
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  Speaker 1: but just some reflections on the Dodgers winning the World
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  Speaker 1: Series and what the Phillies are gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: this offseason to compete once again next year. Such a
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: disappointing season once again for the Phillies. We're gonna dive
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: into some baseball talk. As Eric mentioned, we're gonna be
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: getting into this Sixers team. This, you know, the Sixers
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  Speaker 1: team has been fun to watch. They started the season
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: on fire. They seem to be coming back down to earth,
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: coming back down to reality at this point in the season.
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  Speaker 1: Then from there we're gonna get into some NFL trades.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: The NFL trade situation has been absolutely crazy and the
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Eagles were part of that. We're certainly gonna be getting
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: into the several trades that Howie Roseman and the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: front office made this week.
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  Speaker 3: Acquiring it was actually fun this year, man, It's never fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And look these I don't think these guys outside of
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  Speaker 1: defensive vand and pass rusher Jalen Phillips, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: that Michael Carter the second MC two as everybody calls him,
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  Speaker 1: and Jay R Alexander, who knows if they're gonna work out,
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  Speaker 1: But they are fun acquisitions, I think to think about
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  Speaker 1: what could possibly happen down the road.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna get into it. We're gonna get away.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start now with and just get into some baseball
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  Speaker 1: talk reflections on the Dodgers winning the World Series and
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  Speaker 1: what the Phillies are gonna need to do this offseason
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  Speaker 1: to compete once again. I gotta I gotta tell you, Eric,
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  Speaker 1: like I just hate the Dodgers so much now for
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  Speaker 1: you know, winning for the second time in two years.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 1: Game seven obviously one of the great games in baseball
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  Speaker 1: perhaps to have ever been played. The entirety of the
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: series was really good. You got You've got an unexpected
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: hero in Miguel Rojas, that you have a classic Game
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  Speaker 1: three that could have just gone on forever, back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: games mixed in night after night.
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  Speaker 2: It was just that's how baseball should be. And I
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  Speaker 2: hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that the Los Angeles Dodgers were part of this,
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  Speaker 1: and and we're part of one of the great, one
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  Speaker 1: of the great world series. I think that we saw
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there thinking to myself as well, man,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell of the Phillies gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: this offseason to to get to this point where we
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: could see not only just a championship, but like just
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: some amazing baseball being played because the Blue Jays were
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  Speaker 1: fantastic too in so many different moments.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was definitely a World Series for us to remember,
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  Speaker 1: those of us who love baseball. And again, as much
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  Speaker 1: as I hate that, it makes me hate the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: that much more now, but it was still a fun
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  Speaker 1: World Series and I'm like, what the hell of the
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  Speaker 1: Philly is going to do now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: A couple thoughts, man, the Blue Jays what a solid squad.
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  Speaker 3: They had every opportunity to win that series. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not trying to like piss off Blue Jays fans if
• 8:17
  Speaker 3: they're listening, but like they had every opportunity and they
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: have nothing to like hang their heads about. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: know that sounds shitty if you're like a fan of
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: the Blue Jays, but like you guys have a chance
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  Speaker 3: next year in the year after and like that that's
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  Speaker 3: a solid squad. Yeah. The as far as the Dodgers go,
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  Speaker 3: I will say, like I hate them too. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure I put a couple f words in our friends
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  Speaker 3: text thread when they won the series. But one thing
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  Speaker 3: I will say about them which didn't piss me off
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  Speaker 3: is that it wasn't just the superstars. It played well,
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  Speaker 3: like all of the role players were and all they
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: came came huge Max montci kek Hernanez like like guys
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  Speaker 3: that like the equivalency to us as like Brandon marsh
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  Speaker 3: or Alec Baum, right, and like I can't I can't
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  Speaker 3: complain too much, like, oh they have all the best players, Well,
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  Speaker 3: they have some awesome fucking players, but like they're they're
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: their role players stepped up and not just offensive but
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: defensively they made especially because the Phillies, they they made
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  Speaker 3: multiple great plays and they deserve to win, and I
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: hate saying that, but one one takeaway I did have though,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: was when you look back at the National League, the
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  Speaker 3: road to the National League for the Dodgers to get
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  Speaker 3: to the World Series, the Phillies gave him the biggest
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: fight by far they did.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brewers was like toothless in their in their
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  Speaker 3: their fight against the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: Who the Dodgers played before that, I can't remember now, Gosh,
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  Speaker 1: why am I forgetting?
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  Speaker 3: But it was a nothing series, Like it was just
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: like it just kind of came and went. Yeah, you know,
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: but I really heard the Phillies had the pitching if
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: they just got the timely hitting going, which we've talked
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  Speaker 3: about ad nauseum. They didn't have. But like you know,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully the Phillies can take something away from that. But
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: I don't want it to be and we'll get to
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  Speaker 3: it that this first topic is like, I don't want
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: it to be bring back everybody. Maybe we beat the Dodgers.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was Cincinnati by the way, which they.
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: Just they just cleaned out, right, But like I think
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: that's a good takeaway as a Phillies fan, is like,
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: bring back the right players. Tweak some stuff, and you
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: were right there with them. But the players were bringing
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: back you got to bring back some marms. That's the
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: obvious thing is like the Blue Jays did not have
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: enough arms to finish out the series. They brought it
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: to a scavenge kid who I saw playing Buffalo right
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: before the World Series, and I'm like, why don't we
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: have that kind of guy? Maybe Andrew Painter's that guy,
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: but that's what jumped out, is like, you have to
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: have arms, just a just a treasure trove of arms
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: to beat that team. They brought back Alvarado today on
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: a nine million dollar player option or a team option.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Ye.
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  Speaker 3: Great, great, pickup nine million dollars for Alvarado who was
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: basically an all star closer before he brought in Durhan
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: Duran and before it is, you know, before Alvarado's suspension. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but like that's that's the that's the great, that's the
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: best first step they could have taken. That was smart
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: and I'm hoping they followed that that that road down
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: the free agency.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we were talking about we mentioned it
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: with the Dodgers, the role players and how important they were.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that John Middleton and Jesus, who's
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: the Dave Dombrowski. God, I don't necessarily think you need
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: to go out and get the most expensive free agent
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: on the market. I don't think that that's absolutely necessary. Sure,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: if they want to entertain it, fine, but I don't
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: I think that. Yes, the while the Dodgers do do that,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: because it seems every year them, the Mets, and even
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: the Phillies to a certain extent, are in the market
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: for the largest free agent signing that particular offseason. But
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: the role players are so important, and I think we're
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: seeing that a lot more in baseball now, where it's
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: not just you know, I mean, we remember when Bryce
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Harper was a free agent and uh got who who
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: was who? Who ended up going to Yeah yeah, well
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: with Turner, But I'm saying the guy went to the
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Padres who was thinking about going to the Phills the
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: same year with Harper, many Machado. You know, you have
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: these moments where these free agents become available. Just because
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: your team gets them doesn't mean doesn't mean your team's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get any better.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the look at the.
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  Speaker 1: Freaking Mets, for God's sake. I think role players are
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: so important moving forward in baseball, and I think the
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Mets really showed us that. I mean, I mean the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Dodgers shut Yeah, the.
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers did, and you know, and the Phillies didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: I would have liked to have had a better outfielder,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: but Harrison Bader played super well down the stretch. He
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: was really good, and he was smart enough to like
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: opt out and become a free agent because he can
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: make more money. And they brought in Duran who had
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: a couple of hiccups, but like, for the most part,
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  Speaker 3: he was a great closer. Yeah, Like, I think that
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  Speaker 3: if they had made one more move for a beat,
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  Speaker 3: might have put him over the top because they had
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: the arms. They like, they shut the Dodgers down offensively
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: multiple times in that series. But I think they need
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: to focus on that big jam. Like Alvarado was a
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: great job, great job getting him. Keep Schwarber, maybe you
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: bring back real Muto and I would just focus on
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: arms after that. That would be my main goal, because
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: I think that's what jumped out in that series with
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers. We we held them to have him have
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: him many runs. We just couldn't get him, you know,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: couldn't get runs ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: So I was disappointed with the Harrison Bader news. He
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: declined his end of a ten million dollar mutual option
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. He's receiving a three million dollar buyout,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: becomes a free agent. I wanted him back, I really did. Man,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: he had an energy, you know, for a smaller guy
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: in baseball, he had an energy that I thought this
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: clubhouse absolutely needed. And you know, he was gonna be
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: able to be an everyday starter out in center field too.
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  Speaker 2: And it's disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they let that one get away,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: But I don't know what's gonna happen with the outfield
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  Speaker 1: at this point.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing with him is, like, was he in
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: a contract year and he just picked it up at
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: the end of the season. You know me, maybe he's
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: one of those kind of plays. Maybe I don't know. Yeah,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: he never really he never really you know, shown that before. Yeah,
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: like the end of the season, you have some you
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: have some young talent down in the farm system to
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: play off for Sir Crawford. You got Painter for an
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: arm like maybe maybe think like for the first time
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: at how over long like we can actually bring up
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: two guys, right and they contribute immediately, right, be awesome?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Because honestly, John, our friend of the show, John Stalness,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: was tweeting the other day and I read it and
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: I agreed one hundred percent. Like the Dodgers not only
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: like sign good players, but like they also developed their players.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Like they have a lot of guys that they drafted,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: not just traded for the Blue Jays too. They they
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: have players that they they developed over time. But shit,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Vlad Junior, it's been quite a while. Honestly, the Phillies
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: have done that. And I'm hoping for just out of
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Luck's sake at this point, because it's been so long.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, can we bring up Painter and Crawford and
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: maybe uh, who's the Aida Miller?
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  Speaker 2: Right yep?
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  Speaker 3: And like maybe maybe finally we bring up some guys
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: and and and they perform and and and like we
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  Speaker 3: we actually displayed the development of our farm system while
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: signing some smart free agents here and there to fill
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: in the holes. Yeah, and to play those that's what
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: the team. Yeah, that's what, that's what this team needs. Like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: you're not going to sign You're not going to sign
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  Speaker 3: the top three free agents and like it's just not
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: going to happen. Like this team has been dying for
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: young talent to come up and perform it. It's been
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: too long. And that's the key to his upcoming season.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's I mean Alec Bohm. I mean,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and yes, I've always been an Alec Bohm defender. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: mean he was really the last one coming up through
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the farm system, and before that was like Aaron Nola,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's been a while since there's
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: been a steady, steady stream of this.
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  Speaker 3: Old of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: I know, yeah, like it's been it's.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Been that long. Like yeah, like ree Hoskins is a
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: free agent now because the Brewers declined his option.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a.
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  Speaker 3: Guy that brought up, but he's like what thirty two now,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: And I saw somewhere on Twitter maybe he's an option
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: for the Phillies. I'm like, oh, come on, no, stop
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: bring up our young like that's what he was like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: wy don't we do that with they're on farm system?
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well we are going to be
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: talking more Phillies in the future. We're going to be
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: having some more guests coming on the show in the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: coming weeks and months, talk about this team. Let us
• 17:12
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• 17:16
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• 17:18
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• 17:21
  Speaker 1: now move onto the Philadelphia seventy six ers. My goodness,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: what a team that we saw right out of the gate.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: This was a team that was on fire. In fact,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: when what four in a row? Holy freaking crap. And
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I think now they are coming back down to reality.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Lost tonight as we're recording this on Wednesday, November fifth,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Cavaliers. They lost to the Bulls as
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: well this week. I think the team is coming back
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: down to reality, but still still a very fun team
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to watch here. So what have you been seeing here
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that you like?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Eric?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Some of the things you might not necessarily be liking.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Some things this team is gonna need to work on.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what are your thoughts about them coming
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: back down to reality at this point?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll just start with like an overall philosophy of like, like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: this team's actually fun to watch now.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: They are like that, and we didn't think they were
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be. We didn't think they were gonna be.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: No, we thought it was gonna be a slog this year.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: It was gonna take time for Edgecomb to come in.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be like an energy guy,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: heat check guy off the bench. Yeah, he's had a
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: rough two games now in a row, but like he's
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: also nineteen years old, right, so I'm not. It's just
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: like basically it's for his road trip. So you have
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: your two guys like that. There's so like like the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: the Hornets, the Kings, like, there's so many bad teams
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: that don't even know what their two guys are. Yeah,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: that are gonna be They're two guys like five years
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: from now, right, whereas the Sixers had that now right,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: all the questions about EMBIID PG. Thirteen and some of
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the older guys like you, at least you can look
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: at their ross and be like, Okay, these are these
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: are your two future superstars. Let's build around them and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: we'll figure everything out. The one other thing that jumps out,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and I know they're five and three. They lost tonight
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: against Cleveland. That's a tough back to back. You're playing Chicago,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: who's six and one. Then you're playing a potential Finals
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: team in the Calves at their place. They came off
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: a loss, so like four and three, that's a tough spot.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: You have no one to match up with Mobley whatsoever.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: That was the one thing I was texting with my
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: six Ers buddies, like, who the fuck on this team
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: is going to cover Mobily? Right, He's gonna get every
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: rebound he did tonight. He was he was awesome and
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: he's he's he's taking that next step up as kind
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: of like like a great power forward in the league.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But like, the one thing that jumps out, like I said,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: is you have your two guys. They're fun to watch
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and Nick Nurse is Nick is a good coach. He
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: is like he took an l last year. The team sucked.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Glad he's still here. I'm glad he's still here. Actually
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I am too. And you could tell he kind of
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: gave up last year.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: He's doing his best, but I think he thought like
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I'm a dead man walking, I'm gonna get fired, Like
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do here, I have no options.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Quentin Grimes is my top scorer. Like it was just
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a mess at the end of the last season. They
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: got the third pick, they got a potential superstar and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: not just that, Like I think he saw his roster
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and he was like, I'm coming in this year with
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: a new offensive philosophy where we're gonna play fast. We're
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: gonna play fast, We're gonna play quick, quick passes, backdoor
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: cuts and like setting guys up, pick and roll, pop
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: out three pointers. Maxi and edgecumb have lived off them
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: all season long. And if it's not there, boom, go
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to the basket, take it to the rim, get fouled,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: go to the free throw line. And I think he's
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: made a great adjustment to the talent that he has,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and he's made this team like they're actually competitive. Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: And I think our preseason prediction of the ceiling being
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: like a five seed, yeah, I think it's a little bit. Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: if Embid can play a little more. I watched the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Bulls game last night. Jeff'm not gonna lie. I was
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: kind of like, and Bee can't jump anymore. It seems
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: like a problem.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: There were a couple of times he had the ball
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: down offensively near the rim and he just he did
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a layup like I do now because I'm forty nine,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I can't jump anymore. Yeah, he just pushed it. He
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: didn't jump, And I'm like, is that where we're at
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: with this guy? That sucks? Yeah, maybe he can play
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: into form. Maybe Paul George can come back and like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, play a little bit and play defense. And
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I'm still banking on the possibility of him coming back
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: and being like a good contributor. Yeah. Mc kaine just
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: came back. He looked terrible last night, but it's his
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: first game back after how many you know, how many
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: how much time off?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well with Imbude really quick, with Embiard really quick. Just
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: just some numbers here, he's averaging seventeen point eight points
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: per game average, averaging his field goal percentage just forty
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: two point three three from three point range thirty three
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: point three. I mean that's not gonna that's not gonna
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: probably hold up. I mean maybe it will. I mean, well,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it actually needs to improve. What am I talking about?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I was thinking it was forty three for some reason.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's thirty three point three from three point range, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: seventy doesn't even point eight over.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He doesn't even jump on his he doesn't even jump
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: on his jump shots. Yeah anymore. Yeah, he just stands there. Yeah,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: still is great. Form great jump shot. But we're at
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the point now. It's like I'm hoping, like a month
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: later from now he's a little more athletic, because beyond that,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with him. Yeah against
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: a guy like Jokich.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, meanwhile'll go ahead, go ahead. No, I was gonna say, meanwhile,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxi, he's averaging thirty four point four points per game.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: He has taken it from a points perspective. He has
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: taken over that Joel Embiid torch that you know, that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: torch we talked about being passed. His field goal percentage
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: is forty seven point five at this point, and this
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: three point range from three point range is forty eight
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: point five.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic, sir, It's absurd.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yes, Like he's okay. Everyone talks about Everyone talks about
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the leap, like he's made the leap, but he's he's now. Honestly,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I watched the game tonight. Donovan Mitchell is a stud.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: He is so hard to play, He's huge, he's awesome offensively.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Max He's in his league now. I think Maxi is
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: in the Brunson. Donovan Mitchell like he's in that sphere now,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and that's how good he's become. And he's younger than them,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: more athletic than them, honestly, So we have our superstar.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: How many teams just need a superstar and he's he's
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: actually at Edgecombe will probably round into one. I'm just
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: gonna say, Quentin Grimes is playing great basketball.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I can't I was gonna mention it because man, you
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: were shitting on the first game.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Of the season. I think it was terrible. The first
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: game was.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Kelly Aubras is a really nice player, but that but
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I bring him up because that's where you need and
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: beat and Paul George a step up because Ubra is
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: a nice, complimentary player. He's playing thirty eight minutes a game.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: He scored nineteen tonight, but like that's too much for him, right,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Like this isn't sustainable as a team You're in a
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: like the East is kind of weak, but I think
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: it might be better than we think. So like you're
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: gonna have to have those two eventually step up. Like
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Paul George better fucking play this week, because I've heard
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: so much like he's making this return soon and his
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: his his presence defensively alone will just be huge. He
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: could he could at least give Mobiley a run for
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: his money or a player like MOBILEI, like, you know
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: down the road, like with Giannis or something like that.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Like they got to get him back and just to
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: at least contribute and if if only to like trade
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: them for something down the road. Yeah, but like I know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: they're five and three. They lost tonight. The Bulls game
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: was a tough one. They were up like twenty one
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: points at one point. Like, I don't know how you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: blow that game, but like yeah, but they're a young
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: team and that's a good game to be Like, Okay,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: we're up twenty one. We lost by two. Let's work
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: on that, Like, we have things to work on. We
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: went into Cleveland the next night, played our asses off.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Actually they lost by eleven, but still they had the
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: They were done by twenty in the first half, got
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the got the game to five. So this is a good, young,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: hard playing, competitive team.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen horrendous We have not seen horrendous basketball.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: We have not seen it once.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They haven't been blown out yet, yes, like they've they've been.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: They've been being blown out during a game, but they've
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: come back and like and played hard in every single game.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: That was not the case last year or even the
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: year before.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, absolutely, it's gonna be fun to continue watching
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: this Sixers team for sure. So folks, we're gonna take
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: a break here. Before we do, let's get into let's
• 26:07
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• 26:08
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• 27:00
  Speaker 1: going to dive now into some NFL trades man the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: NFL trade market this past week. Eric was absolutely insane.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into two specific teams. First, the New
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: York Jets absolutely tanking here, it seems, getting rid of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: talent as they're looking to what seems to be an obvious,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you know, rebuild mode that they're going to be in.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: And the Dallas Cowboys trading for some defensive help is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: not going to really help them in the NFC East,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not too sure, but really quick, I mean the Jets,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, what a joke of an organization and a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: complete cluster f here when you're trading Quinn Williams and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner away and who are supposed to be if
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, the like foundational pieces of what your
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: franchise was going to be from a defensive perspective, now
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have them anymore. It never ceases to amaze
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: me that there are people in professional sports that still
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: can have their jobs and still are able to And yes,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I know, Joe Douglas isn't there anymore in New York.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You know, he's back with the Eagles, actually in the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: front office. But it amazes me that these people continue
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to work and have jobs and do such a shitty
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and terrible job with their team building. Meanwhile, you've got
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles who're gonna get to in a little
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: bit making some really good strategic trades in my opinion,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I'm just amazed by where the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: trade market went. I mean, Seahawks ended up trading for
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Rashid Rashid Sahed, and the Jaguars trading with the Raiders
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for Jacoby Myers getting some wide receiver help as well. Again,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Cowboys acquiring Logan Wilson from the Cincinnati Bengals as well.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Cowboys are really trying to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: kind of do here as well, giving up some draft
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: capital for some older players. I don't know, there's a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: lot to unpack here. You know what, What are your
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts about where the trade market went this week?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Just to laugh?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Well, Number one, at least it was fun. It was
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: usually this is the NBA trade deadline is always like
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: countdown time. Yeah, yeah, and there's gonna be some trade.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Like even if it's boring, it's at least like trades
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: are probably gonna happen. It's a little more exciting. Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: The NFL one is usually like a just a complete dud.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: This one like outshined the NBA draft trade, the deadline
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: for the past two years by far.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I was really surprised. Some quick takeaways. I I should
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: love what the Jets did because you're you're going nowhere.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so why not tank? Right?
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Who's their quarterback again? What the hell's his name? Justin?
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Justin likes like, so you brought in Justin Fields two years,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: forty million dollars, right, He's a complete dud. He sucks.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And that scares me if I was a Jets fan,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: because I'm like, well, we made all these great trades,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: we have the when they get back three first round
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: picks in the second round.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: By basically yeah, yeah.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Which I love that for the Jets, Like, let's rebuild.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: You've got what five first round picks in the next
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: two drafts and an extra second rounder. That's how you
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: rebuild it entire franchise. We've seen it before. It's worked.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: The Lions are a great example recently. But of course
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: you have to draft the right players. Jumior Gibbs and
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: like the whole thing now, the fact that they signed
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Justin Fields to a two year, forty million dollar contract
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: and they're trading away all these guys they just drafted,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: like what four years ago. Basically Sauce Gardner Williams is
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: a little further out, but like, love the idea, love
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: the design, like, let let's let's rebuild, but like, you
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: haven't developed a quarterback and how many fucking are I know?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: So like again, love the idea. Can you can you
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: can you make it work? Probably not just from history. Unfortunately,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: we have a Jets fan in our life, and I
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: feel bad saying that because he's he's been a lifelong sufferer.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: But again, like what they did, love what the Cowboys
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: did for the eagle's sake. Yes, that seem's a fucking joke.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I went over to my so Jerry Jones is what
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: eighty two years old, some.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty four.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went. I went to my parents house the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: other day. It was like two in the afternoon, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: my dad was in his chair, fast asleep with a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: blanket over his legs, and I'm just like this, Oh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: this is where we're at in his life, Like this
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: is where he's like he's younger than Jerry Jones.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Oa.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: That was the point I'm trying to make. Jerry Jones
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: is so full of himself and had to get out
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: of the Micah Parsons trade disaster. Yeah, and unfortunately for
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Cowboys fans, his his concept was, well, you know what
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I'm going to trade for Quentin Williams. That is his name, Yeah,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: q Williams. Yeah, Quinn Williams. And I'm just gonna give
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: up one first round pick and a second rounder. And
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the first round pick he gave away, by the way,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: is not even the worst one. It's the better of
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: the ones. Yeah, by the way. And uh for like
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: the sixth best defensive tackle in the league. Yeah, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the guy got from the from Green Bay is like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: what the fifteenth best defensive tackle? Because you're trying to
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: stop the run this year, you're three to five and one. Yes,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: you just trade all your future draft capital to stop
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: the run in a season you're not gonna make the playoffs. Ritible,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: It's unfucking believed. Like when I saw that trade, I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: was like, someone needs to pull the reins. Yes, but
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: then but then you think about it. You watch the
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Cowboys documentary on Netflix. He surrounded himself with his whole family.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: No one's gonna go tell Dad like exactly, Dad, You're
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: fucking nuts, Dad, this.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Might be a little crazy here. I don't know if
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you want to do this.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Gosh, what a horrible trade. It was like it didn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: make any sense. I read it and I'm like, that's dumb.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Like I didn't need to go on ESPN, like what's
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: the grades on this trade? Like it was No, It's
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: just a dumb trade. This is stupid.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad we're going down this road because that's
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: where I wanted to go. This team is going nowhere
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: in the NFC East. They're going nowhere. And it's been
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like this for some time now. This trade deadline solidifies
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the fact that this Dallas Cowboys team is going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: be floundering at least for another couple of seasons.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: At least.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Dak Press God is not getting any younger. Their rushing
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: game is not not great.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I know they've got uh uh.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Willam uh Oh gosh, why am I forgetting his freaking name?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Boy?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm getting old. I'm starting to forget some of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: these freaking names. Offense, running back Javonte Williams Javonte Williams.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: You know, yes, they have Cede Lamb. Other than that,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: who else do they have? They have an offensive line
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: just kind of a piecemeal thing that used to be
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: dominant now they're not. It's just it is good to see.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I love seeing what Jerry Jones is doing. He is horrible.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: He's making terrible decisions. This team is going to be
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: floundering for the next two years at least at least,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and I love it. As an Eagles fan, you just
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: love to see it. Meanwhile, go I was go ahead,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: just real quick.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I read this great piece by Bill Barwell today
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: on ESPN and he talked about, so Jerry Jones does this.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: He drags these talks out to keep the Cowboys in
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: like being the first story on ESPN. Yeah, the spotlight, right, yep.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: And he's like, basically what he did he actually calculated.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know he quantified it, but I like the number.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: He was like, basically, the Cowboys cost themselves eighty three
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: million dollars because if they had just signed Prescott immediately
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb and Parsons, rather than drag it out and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: let other players sign to set the bar. Yeah, he
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: was basically like if I if you had just signed
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Prescott before so and so got signed, he would have
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: saved himself thirty million. And then ceedee lamb. Same thing.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: And then Michael Parsons and I read him like, that's
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: a really good piece of analysis, because it probably did.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: But what's the offset costs of keeping the Cowboys in
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: the spotlight throughout all those like those story after story
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: on ESPN and other other avenues, Like he probably made
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: himself a lot of money, but he made the team worse, Yes,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and cost them cap boys. And now this is why
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: you have instead of my comparisons, you have two good
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: defensive tackles and you're paying them a lot of money,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: and you lost first round picks, yes, instead of having
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: the best edge rusher in football. Yes, love it. Yes,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: it's great, it's great. Can I just say real quick,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the one trade that did scare me as an Eagles fan.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't like this trade because I was like, man,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Seattle's pretty goddamn good. All they needed was one more
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: like pass receiver.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that trade.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: They made a fourth rounder for the kid from the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Saints who's having a really good year. Yea, yeah, Rareshie's
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: the heat I was just like, JSN is their entire offense.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I have him in one of my fantasy teams. He's saving
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: my season. He needed some help, and like, now you
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: got you got a speed burner out here, you got
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the best receiver football over here, even awesome defense, you
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: have great home field advantage. Sam Donald's playing awesome. Yeah,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and it's like that's probably our number one opponent in
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: the NFC right now. And to make that trade for
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: only a fourth rounder, I was like, damn, that made
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: them a lot better. It dead sucks. Yeah, Like if
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: we're one seed and they're a two seed, they're coming
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: to Philly. But like that's a scary one two offensive
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: option to face in the NC title game. If that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: where it comes to.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Right, that's a good point, great point to make. Look,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: we talk about the Dallas Cowboys and how horrendous and
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: awful their decision making is. Let's move to the Philadelphia
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Eagles and what we have seen time and time again.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: We're gonna dive into this a little bit more a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: little bit more detail with our guests this week, Brandon
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Lee Gouton from Bleedinggreen nation dot com.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But when Howie Roseman.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Decides that you know, we're going to try to swing
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: at something with some talent that has been proven at
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: some point point or another in the NFL, with cornerback
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: JayR Alexander, cornerback Michael Carter the Second and then of
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: course him bringing in as well, which my god, I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: love when when the Jalen Phillips trade hit my phone
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: and I got I got a notification. Oh my god,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I was so happy because we have many how many
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: weeks have we been talking about it? We talked about
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: it over the summer, even before training camp started, very
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: concerned about what the past rush was going to look like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: losing Josh Sweat, losing Milton Williams. And then we had
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the cornerback situation. What's gonna happen with cornerback two Adri
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Jackson Khieling Ringo not not doing good, so they bring
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: he brings in JayR Alexander and Michael Carter the Second
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to see what happens. And I would venture to say
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that Vic Fangio had something to do with this as well. Again,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be getting into that with BLG in a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: bit too. But I love these trades. I do, and
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: they may not work out, but I love that there's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: a strategic aspect to this. And when you look at
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: what the Eagles gave up to get these players, not
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a ton and they have a ton of assets going
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: into this year's draft, the twenty twenty six draft. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: absolutely love what the Eagles did here.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Eric.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if Seattle didn't win the trade deadline,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I think the Eagles did. Yeah, Like, I mean, how
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: he's a Harvard business dork, but he understands personnel. Like
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: you You've had these guys that have run teams as
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: gms and they run it like a business, but into
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the ground eventually, like like I mean, look at the
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Kinky you know, eventually it didn't work out, right, But
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: like this guy understands risk assessment and like for what
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: they gave up for these three guys and just taking
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: flyers on three really talented players that can help the
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: team with no downside. There's there's nothing.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: To no downside.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: it could be the Achilles heel of the season, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you know what, there's yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: It's not going to be the Achilles heel though, Like,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: like these guys aren't going to like destroy the team,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Like they're not going to kill the team, Like there's
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: really nothing beyond like all their contributions can do is
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: like help the team. They're not going to bring the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: team down. Jalen Phillips, by the way, like they give
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: it a third round pick, he's a free agent, he
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: can walk, They're gonna get a compensatory pick.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he leaves like that is that is.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Brilliant GMing And I saw that many times. I saw
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: that many places on Twitter, like wow, how he really
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: knows what he's doing.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, we're getting compensatory picks for Josh Sweat,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Milton Williams as well.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Exactly, like like there's a reason he didn't go after
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the kid from the Jets the defensive end, right, yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: because because there's no compensatory thing coming back. He's like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I'd rather get a third rounder for Jamn Phillips, who's
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: talented and has played for Vic Fangio in the past,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: and I can get maybe like a fourth rounder if
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: he just walks, by the way, I'm not I'm not
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: even paying him. The Dolphins already paid him. I own
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: like three million bucks. That that's chump change at this point,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Like just just really smart, Like I don't know why
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: other gms don't like or why the teams be like
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: don't offer him one hundred million dollars to be their GM.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Why do the Eagles keep winning the trade deadline every year?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Why why do NFL teams continue to allow this to happen?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: It's amazing to me.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Like gire exallant Okay, Okay, So like Alexander great example
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of like what we're looking at here. I almost compare
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: him with CJ. Gardner Johnson who came in Alexander from
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: one understand is a real knucklehead, right, So it was CJ.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And you know it's he's proven it multiple times since
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: he's left the Eagles. But he basically has to do
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: his job for three months.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah three months.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I've been working for twenty five fucking years, okay or
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. He has to behave himself and work
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: his balls off for awesome franchise for three three and
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: a half months to make another like monster contract, right right,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: if he's smart about this, And I like those odds
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: because they basically gave up nothing for him because there's
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: big like off the scrap heap and that that's the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: kind of moves of how he makes him like that
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: is smart because if he if he fucks off and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: like starts to mess with the chemistry of the team,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: just you're gone. You're easy, Like, yeah, we don't owe
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: you anything, just go yep ye. Same with MC two
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: whatever we're calling him now he equals MC two like that. Yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Like no player is like is a problem financially and
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, you just you just cut them
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: like who cares. But the upside is like they're huge
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: contributors on a team. They're also coming from teams that's
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: like not winning. Yeah, like I know the Ravens are good,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: but like all these tef you add the records from
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: the Jets, Ravens, Dolphins, they're coming to a winning franchise,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: just the one in the Super Bowl. Yeah, they might
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: want to actually fucking try exactly hard, exactly And we're
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: not paying anything.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: To be to be to be with one of the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: top teams in the league. And you're gonna have pressure
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: with some of the other guys and some of the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: veterans on this team to say, you know what, we've
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: built this here. You fucking do what you need to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: do or you're out here and we're gonna we're gonna
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: help actually get your hell out of here.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: If you don't.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: You think Jalen card is gonna take any ship?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Three you guys like, Oh, I love it, I love it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I love what's happening with this Eagles team. We're gonna
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: have our post game show after the Monday night football
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: game against the Packers. Uh, go back on the feed,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: listen to the opposition terrorits where we dove into the
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: matchup Eagles Packers Monday night. You got anything else, buddy?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Before we get to thrown down on the table in
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: our interview this week.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go Flyers.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: That's it. Because it's eleven thirty at night.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: It is. I'm a tired boy. I'm a tired boy.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: You're a tired boy.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: We gotta stop talking for an hour for the show.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I know, we really do, We really, we really hand
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: it up. We really do. All right, buddy, I'll let
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: you go, folks. We can take a break. We get back.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: We got Brandon Leyguten from Bleedinggreennation dot com gonna dive
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: into some more Eagles talk stick.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: With us and now on the table.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: All right, joining us to dive into this Philadelphia Eagles
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: team as they are coming off their bye week week ten.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Right around the corner here, we've got our good friend
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: from Bleedinggreennation dot com. Fantastic website, always great content with
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: regarding the Philadelphia Eagles, Brandon Leeguten BLG. Hey, buddy, thanks
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to jump on. Really
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, my friend.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Always happy to be here.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: It is I think a good place that this Philadelphia
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Eagles team is in right now. After that really nice
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: victory over the New York Giants, they got the bye week,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: some guys on this team are able to get healthy.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But in the meantime here holy freaking crap trades, trades
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and more trades. My co host and I we dove
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: into some of these trades that Howie Roseman has made
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this past week here, and I'd love to get your
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: take on what these trades have are going to end
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: up meaning to this Philadelphia Eagles team. Here, Brandon Graham,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: as we know, is coming back as well, So let's start.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Let's start with Brandon Graham here.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: You know, what kind of productivity do you think he's
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: gonna bring to the defensive front when he takes the field.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: We know he's older, we know what his history is,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: but really like that impact that he's gonna have. What
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: do you think about it, BLG.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as Howie Rosemand mentioned in his post NFL trade
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: deadline press conference on too, you know, Brandy Graham has
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: been working out for a bit here, So it's not
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: just like you know, oh, he's coming off the couch.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: He hasn't been working out at all. So I have
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: high expectations for him relative to, you know, a player
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: who is unretiring and the fact that he was looking
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: great before he got hurt last year. He didn't retire
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: because he couldn't play anymore. That was not the situation.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: He retired in part because the Eagles were like, this
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: is too good of a story for you to go
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: out on top. Yeah, you should probably just leave now.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: It's not that we don't want you, and Fangio very
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: much did want Brandy Graham to return. It's just that
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: they thought it'd be better, you know, if they could
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: ride with the youth, and probably in the back of
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: their minds are thinking, well, if we need Brandy Graham
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: next season, maybe he can come out of retirement. Ye,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: and that's the case, So I do think he can
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: help this defense in a rotational role.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: What about Michael Carter the second in terms of this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: defense here? I was I was actually a little surprised
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: when I saw this trade initially, but as you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: we're reading about it more, you know, you listen to
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: some analysts more kind of making sense as a potential, uh,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle. I guess we could say, what's
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: your thought about Michael Carter the second here?
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna loop him into Alexander and say that
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: this is this is kind of a strategy of I
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: think Kylie Roseman throwing spaghetti, let's say, at the wall
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: until something sticks. And I really just think it's about
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: the optionality. I don't think the eals are acquired Carter
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: or Alexander with the thought that, oh, this guy, either
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: of them is definitely going to start for us, or
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: he's definitely going to have this role, as much as
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, we can figure things out here, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: maybe they'll have a role if kiey Ringo and or
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Jacoreyan Bettett don't step up on the outside. If they do, great,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: and you have depth behind them, which you need for sure.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: But either I really think legals do not want to
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: move Cooper to Gene out of the nickel right, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Pig Fangio has said as much. But I think there's
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: a world where they just might have to do that
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: at some point, and I think that would be the
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: last resort, but they might reach your last resort, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: if that's the case, you maybe Carter really steps up
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: and it's him you can have in the slot when
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: you move the Gene to the outside. It's really not
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: clear to me at this time that those guys are
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: gonna have a role, but I do think they acquired
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: them with the potential that they could if they need.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: To really quick.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: How much input do you think Vic Fangio had in
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: terms of acquiring both of those secondary pieces, because I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: would imagine how he probably went to him saying, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is this going to potentially fit? Are the talent that
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: these guys have, are they going to be able to
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: be those puzzle pieces? I would imagine Vic probably had
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: some sort of say and in some way, shape or
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: form with bringing this talent to the team.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: You would think from a standpoint of why wouldn't you
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: lean on Vic Fangio when he's earned the benefit of
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: the doubt. At the same time, Vic will tell you
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: his role is minuscule. Yes, I don't fully believe. I
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: think more so, you know, with Carter, you look at
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: the fact that he has a relationship with the Eagle
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: safeties coach Joe Casper. Obviously, he was drafted by Joe Douglas,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: former Jets general manager, now back with the Eagles in
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: their front office, so you know there's some familiarity there.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: With Alexander, it's Christian Parker, the Egles defensive backs coach,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: who he worked with in Green Bay. So I do
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: think they definitely relied on that familiarity. And again that's
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: something how he actually basically confirmed and talked about in
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: his press conference that those relationships were important here because
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: it's not just about, you know, the on field talent
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: as much as it's also the personality and those kind
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: of people that you're bringing into your locker room. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: you don't always know what to expect when you have
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: a player coming in on short notice midseason, but with
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: these guys, they have some level of familiarity with what
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: they're all about.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Finally, Jalen Phillips couldn't believe it when I got when
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I saw the chefter tweet.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I come across my feed only.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Cow Jalen Phillips and what he's going to give this
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: pass rush. What are your thoughts here at your take
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: on him, what he's going to bring to this defense.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: It's really not fun to talk about from like, well,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: if he stays healthy, because that's the key, if he
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: stays because if he's hurt, I mean, the egles good
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: trade a third round pick for this guy makes all
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: the sense in the world in terms of the talent
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: the upside. If he gets hurt and he's not able
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: to play much, that's tough, and that's the risks they're taking.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: They're going into this knowing that that could easily be
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: the case, given his track record, given his history. But
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: there's times where you have to take a chance, and
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: obviously injuries can happen to anyone, so you kind of
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: just have to get a little bit lucky there. It's
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: not like they're banking their entire hopes of the past
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: for us just on Jalen Phillips, but for them to
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: be better as a unit than they were in the
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: first half of the season. He has to be a
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: big part of that. And again, the upside is there.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: I like the fact that he brings something to the
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: table they don't have in terms of just the size.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: You know, he's like this. They have a lot of
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: smaller as rushers.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I mean in Brendan Graham is more stout than the others.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: But Jalen Phillips is someone, you know, the six six frame,
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: the athleticism that he brings to the table. I like that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: I like the fact that I remember back watching the
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Eagles practice against the Dolphins in twenty twenty two down
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: in Miami. I was at that joint training camp practice
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and Jealen Phillips really stood out that day in a
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: day where the Miami Dolphins defense gave problems to or
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: give the Eagles offense problems in that practice. So I
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: definitely think it's just a matter of can he stay healthy?
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: All right? Very good?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Well, look, when we did our Eagles season preview and
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: we talked about some concerns with regard to the Eagles
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: defensive front here, I wanted to kind of dive into
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: this passwords rush situation a little bit more.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I mean Nolan Smith, his practice window is now opened.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be seeing him sooner rather than later. But
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: I think from a more macro perspective, BLG, I'm wondering,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: are we going to see greater I guess we would say,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: quote dominance by the defensive line like we saw last season,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: or is it going to take some time for all
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: of these entities and the talent on this team and
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the defensive front to really start meshing with each other,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: whether it's Jalen Phillips, Brandon Graham getting back into the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: fold here. What are your thoughts here?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: It kind of reminds me of the outlook going into
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: this season in terms of just there aren't proven commodities here.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: There's more than there was relative to the beginning of
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: the season when you bring in Brandon Graham and Jalen Phillips,
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: assuming he stays healthy, but you're still kind of talking
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: about upside like Nolan Smith has to be able to contribute,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: and I have hope that he can do that based
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: on the potential we've seen, but again, needs to stay healthy,
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: needs to pick up where he left off in terms
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: of being hot down the stretch last season. You'll see
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: if he can do that. Jalenx Hunt quieter starts the
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: season playing better in these past two games. Kenny continue
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to keep that going. He might be able to, but
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: it's just not a given given how young these players
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: are and how they aren't necessarily, you know, maybe even
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: close to reaching their ceilings where they are in their development.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: So I have hope for that unit. I think there's potential.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I like the one through five rotation that they could have,
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: but it's not something where I can just bank on
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: it as much as you're you're looking at the upside,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: but there's also downside as well, where maybe Brandon Graham
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: looks like a player who came out of retirement, maybe
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Jalen Phillips can't stay healthy, maybe Nolan Smith can't stay healthy,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: maybe jals Hunt is not quite a starter, just a
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: solid rotational third guy in the edge rotation. And then
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: josh Uja, who's had some moments. You know, he's a
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: part time player for a reason. There's upside and there's downside.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not any givens here with this Eagles defense, and
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: there's no given with regard to the secondary, which is
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: what you were essentially saying at the top of our conversation.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: BLG because I want to dive into the secondary a
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: little bit more because with the trade editions of Jay
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: R Alexander and Michael Carter. The second I'm wondering, should
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: we assume that a Dori Jackson and Kielley Ringo that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: those experiments might be over? I mean, is there going
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: to be a shuffling more that we're going to see?
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: How does that even relate to the consistency or a
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: lack of consistency with regard to the secondary in the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: cornerback position here. I mean, I'm wondering, how do you
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: see this puzzle kind of coming together for the secondary here?
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we'll have to see where Jackson is out
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: coming out of the bye week. Obviously, he missed the
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Eagles last game with the concussion that seemed to be like,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: not that any concussion is you know, something to take lightly.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: That seemed like a pretty bad, you know one, especially
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: the way Jackson left that game. So I don't even
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: know if he's going to be able to play against
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: the Packers. We'll see on that one. He could be
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: back in the starting mix maybe if he is healthy
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: this week. You have Keethey Ringo there, thought he had
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: a good game against the Giants. At the same time,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: the Giants might have the worst receiving corps in the
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: NFL based before the trade deadline they did, so I
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: don't know what to really make of that moving forward.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: You know, it's better to see that than not. But
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I don't just trust keey Ringo. I don't think he goals.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: Just trust keithy Ringo implicitly all of a sudden so
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: and then you have Jacoryan Bennett. He has activated his
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: practice window before the buye. I think they would like
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: to take a look at him at some point and
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: see what he can do, you know, like when you
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: make that trade and you have a need at cornerback there,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: give him a shot, see what he can do at
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: some point. But to count on him, you know, as
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: a surefire option. There's there's no great answer here. I
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: think it's just a matter of kind of continuing to
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: experiment here with these different options, see what works. And
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: maybe they're not going to find it all pro they'reler
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: from what they have, But it's just about finding someone
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: who you can at least get by with.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: And I think we got to trust Vic Fangio too.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, you essentially said that at the top. I
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: think that's going to be a key piece of this
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: defense moving forward, trusting Vic Fangio for sure. Folks, Again,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: we're talking to brand lea go Out and BLG from
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Bleeding Green Nation dot com at Brandon Gouton on Twitter
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: slash x. He's also I know over on threads as well.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: And with that being said, real quick, we're going to
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: take a break, folks, and when we get back, we're
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: going to dive into this Eagles offense a bit. So
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: stick with us, all right. We're back with our buddy
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Branding Lee go Out and BLG from Bleedinggreen Nation dot
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: com and wanted to dive into what we may be
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: seeing from the rushing attack here because we were talking
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: about the defense. The offense obviously just as important. I
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: remember us again talking during our Eagle season preview with
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: you about how Saquon was absolutely going to eat this year.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: You and I were under the impression that, you know, what,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: everything is in place for him to replicate what he
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: did last season. But I don't think you, myself, anyone
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: else who was in that frame of mind thought that
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: the offensive line would have the struggles and the challenges
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: that it did earlier this season. So how do you
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: see the rushing attack possibly altering based on what's happening
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: with the offensive line at this point.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: BLG.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you one thing I do regret and
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: one thing I don't regret regarding being really optimistic about
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: the Eagles running game in twenty twenty five. The thing
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: I don't regret is feeling good about Saquon Barkley. I
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: think he's looks great all year like in terms of
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: him and what he can control. I don't think he
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: looks like he lost a step by any means. And
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: part of the reason why I was high on him
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: going into the season was he looked great in training
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: camp in the offseason. He looked like maybe even better
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: than he did last year.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: We talked about that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, so I don't regret being bullish on that,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and as we just saw in Egles last game against
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: the Giants, still looks pretty good when it can get
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: him daylight. It's just a matter of the blocking giving
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: him at least some space and not letting him get
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: hit repeatedly in the backfield like they have. I think
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: the one thing I do regret is kind of thinking
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: about the toll that those extreme workloads take on running
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: backs and maybe not thinking about how that could apply
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: to the offensive line and the people blocking for him.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: A great point.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that point really has taken a toll on these
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: offensive linemen. Jordan Malata has talked about it. He said
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: that he really didn't feel like in most seasons. After
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: the season ends, he said maybe a week, a couple
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: of weeks, he starts to feel like himself again. It
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: is feeling better this offseason. He said it took way
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: longer than it did any off season before for him
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: to start feeling like himself again. And then he just
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: even saw it with Landon Dickerson being banged up like
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: he was late last year. Cam Jurgens same thing off
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: season surgery. Lane Johnson has missed some time this season.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: The only guy who hasn't really as much, Tyler Stem.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Tyler would a back up last year exactly, it didn't
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: have to take that workload. So I absolutely think there's
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: something to that. I don't think the bye week magically
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: fixes everything, but it does allow a chance for these
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: guys to get healthier than they were and have them
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: feeling better then that they were, So I think that
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: is a point of optimism, you know, moving forward, that
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: they could be healthier, they could be at their healthiest
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: coming out of this extra rest here. At the same time,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: you know, they could just be in a spot where
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: they're not quite the players they were last year because
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: of that massive workload.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, folks, go back in the feed check out our
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Opposition Territory show where we talked to Evan TeX's Western
• 59:12
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• 59:16
  Speaker 1: We specifically got into the Eagles offensive line, how it
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: would be matching up against the Packers defensive line, how
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the trenches are going to look like. Go back in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the feed check that out. It was a great, great discussion. So, buddy,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: before I let you go, I want to just talk
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: about real quick at two part question the biggest weaknesses
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: on this team, the biggest strengths on this Eagles team
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: as we're heading into this second half of the season here,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: let's start with the weaknesses of this team.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: What do you think the biggest weakness of this team is.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I think we hit on it. I think it's cornerback too. Yeah,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: that's just going back to training camp. You know, that's
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: just been an area where it seems like they're just
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: really struggling to find an answer. I was actually thinking
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: about it earlier, and I was thinking kind of reminds
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: me a little bit of in twenty twenty three. They
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: could just not solve that Nickel cornerback spot, especially after
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Vonte Maddix went down. You can try a lot of
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: different things, just could not find the answer. And while
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: I do think it's fair to wonder if the Eagles
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: could have brought back you know, Isaiah Rodgers, I absolutely
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: think that could be a fair criticism of Howie Roseman.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: In general, it's hard to look at a roster in
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: the NFL and not find a team that has weak
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: spots at multiple points. So the fact that the Eagles,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: you know, are in the spot where they have this weakness, like,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: it's easy for us to be like, well, how do
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: they not fix that? And that's gonna be an issue,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: and honestly, to be like, it could unseat their season,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: It could be assue in the playoffs where they just
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: don't have an answer there and they get killed. That's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: kind of just life, though. I think that's life in
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: the NFL. When you have limited resources, you're not gonna
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: have a pro bowler every position, so it's tough. I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: think the hope is that they added some options here
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: they can experiment with. In addition, when you're boosting the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: pass rush, maybe that helps out those cornerbacks and kind
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: of you know, is not putting as much of a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: burden on them.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: But what do you think the biggest strength is on
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: this team?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if we are feeling the same thing
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: because this team does have a lot of strengths. It
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: really does, you know, as a challenging as the first
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: half of the season was. And yes, they are at
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the top of the NFC here and one of those
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: teams that is going to be a contender at this
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: particular point in time. There's a lot of strengths here.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: What's the one strength that you're really honing in on
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: here during the second half of the season.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the quarterbacking save here. Yes, I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: mean he is playing the two games going into the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: by really really good football there potentially has turned to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: corner I don't think he's had a bad season by
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: any means. No, it's kind of been a weird season.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: Giants game, the first one was certainly his worst game
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: of the season, and at times, you know, there's been
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: certain halves of games where he hasn't been quite there
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: and weird because like, for example, the first half of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: that Buccaneers game, I think that was one of the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: best first halves of his entire career, maybe the best.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: Then second half, you know, maybe not so much. So
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: we need to see you more consistency moving forward. But
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: I think overall the through line through the season, I
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: think there's a level of trust that the Eagles actually
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: need to have more in Dalen Hurts and empower him
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: and lean into that. With his ability to take care
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: of the football, it's kind of a great sense of
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: where to go with it and also not putting it
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: in the harm's way and just feeling in control of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: the offense, I think more than ever. And I think
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: that's kind of something you see, you know, with a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: quarterback who is aging more and getting more experience and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: kind of building that comfort level and maybe whereas he
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: might not be the same runner that he was when
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: he entered the league in his young twenties, he's kind
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: of making looking up for that little bit more with
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: his what he's able to shoulders there. So I think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts is a big reason of optimism, not only
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: in terms of how he's playing now, but obviously as
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: we've seen, he is a playoff riser. So as long
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: as the Eagles can get into the postseason and being
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: a relatively decent spot there, which right now, knock on wood,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: they're looking at a really good position to win their division.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: I know there's no kin at NFC East repeat winners
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: in over twenty years here, but Eagles aren't a good
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: spot to do that, and I feel good about him
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: once you do get to the postseason and he even
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: raises his performance even more.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: In eight games, He's got a seventy point two completion percentage,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: fifteen touchdowns, only one interception. He's not turning the ball over.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: That's what you want from your quarterback in the NFL
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: in this day and age. So that being said, folks,
• 1:03:29
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:37
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• 1:03:40
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