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DOJ Strikes Twice: High-Profile Indictments Shake DC | Episode 278 · V

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Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. It is great
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Speaker 1: to have you with us. Man, that Justice Department's been
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Speaker 1: staying very, very busy. We've got a lot to get
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Speaker 1: to today as we talk about a massive prosecution in
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Speaker 1: the case of COVID. Finally, some accountability for the COVID chaos.
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Speaker 1: We will get to that today. We have an amazing
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Speaker 1: guest on that subject, one of President Trump's top investigators
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Speaker 1: up on the show today. Do not miss this conversation.
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Speaker 1: This guy's good. We're going to have a lot to
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Speaker 1: talk about. And then, of course, the big prosecution of
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Speaker 1: James Comey. He's hit with a second indictment, this time
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Speaker 1: for threatening the life of the President of the United States.
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Speaker 1: We'll dive into all of the details of that. That's
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Speaker 1: Todd Blanche. Man, that guy, that guy seems to be
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Speaker 1: doing something. We've got a lot more ahead coming up
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Speaker 1: Good morning to JW66WNY716. That's a very complicated username, but
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Speaker 1: I rolled through it with professionalism this morning. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with the James Comey saga today. James freaking Comey. Comey
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Speaker 1: just got slapped yesterday with yet another indictment from the
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Speaker 1: United States Department of Justice, this time for his shell
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Speaker 1: art on a beach where he put shells together to
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Speaker 1: declare 86-47 and then acted like he just stumbled upon them.
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Speaker 1: He had no idea what was happening. even going on. Look,
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Speaker 1: random shells. They look like numbers, don't they, sweetie? You
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Speaker 1: should post it to Instagram, his wife says. In fact, remember,
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Speaker 1: here's James Comey last year once the rest of us
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Speaker 1: were like, wait a second, eliminate Trump? You posted an
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Speaker 1: eliminate Trump photo to Instagram? What's wrong with you? You're
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Speaker 1: a psychopath. Here's James Comey trying to explain it all
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Speaker 1: the way while he was hawking his new stupid book
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Speaker 1: last year. Cut six, watch this. But you, you, is
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Speaker 1: this Instagram?
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Speaker 3: Instagram, yeah.
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Speaker 2: You grammed this.
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Speaker 1: You were walking on the beach. What happened? You were
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Speaker 1: walking on the beach, and you saw this on the beach?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my wife and I, Patrice, were walking on the
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Speaker 4: beach and saw those numbers in shells.
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Speaker 5: On the beach.
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Speaker 2: You didn't do this.
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Speaker 4: Somebody else did this. Yeah, somebody else did it. We
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Speaker 4: were on a walk preparing for this week, the rollout
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Speaker 4: of my book. She looked at it and said, why'd
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Speaker 4: someone put their address in the sand?
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: And then we stood at.
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Speaker 4: It, looked at it, trying to figure out what it was,
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Speaker 4: and she'd long been a server in restaurants, and she said,
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Speaker 4: you know what I think it is?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I think it's a reference to restaurants when you would
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Speaker 4: 86 something in a restaurant.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's off the menu. Yeah, I said, I remember when.
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Speaker 4: I was a kid, you'd say 86 to get out
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Speaker 4: of a place. This place stinks, let's 86 it.
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Speaker 1: I was a bartender. You would 86 a customer if
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Speaker 1: they were getting drunk. Like, let's 86 them. Let's give
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Speaker 1: them a low-proof alcohol. Something like that, yeah.
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Speaker 4: And so I said, I think it's a clever political message.
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Speaker 4: And she said, you should take a picture of it.
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Speaker 2: I said, sure.
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Speaker 4: And then she said, you should Instagram that. And boom.
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Speaker 1: Well... It was my wife's fault. He blamed his wife.
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Speaker 1: James Comey did. And when, in fact, you know very
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Speaker 1: well what happened. His overgrown ass was lying on the beach,
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Speaker 1: shaping shells into numbers and then posting them to his
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Speaker 1: Instagram account like he's a teenage girl. The guy who
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Speaker 1: posts selfie videos talking about his love for Taylor Swift
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Speaker 1: was definitely doing shell art on the beach.
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Speaker 3: 86-47.
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Speaker 1: You love how he feigns ignorance. Like the two of them. Oh,
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Speaker 1: we walked up on it and then we stared at him.
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Speaker 1: We thought, why would someone write an address on the beach?
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Speaker 1: An address? What a con artist. You're not a very
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Speaker 1: good one, by the way. What a con artist.
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Speaker 6: An address.
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Speaker 1: If it's an address, where's the road? What are you
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Speaker 1: talking about? You didn't think it was an address? You
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Speaker 1: drew it, you dumbass. That's James Comey. This is the
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Speaker 1: same sort of like, kind of like feigned ignorance that
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Speaker 1: you get from, like earlier this week, we got from
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Speaker 1: Nora O'Donnell. Remember that clip where President Trump sits down
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Speaker 1: with her after the assassination attempt? Yet another assassination attempt.
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Speaker 1: Yet another lefty tries to 86-47 this past weekend. And
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Speaker 1: President Trump sits down with Nora O'Donnell on CBS. And
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Speaker 1: then she starts saying, well, the guy wrote in the
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Speaker 1: manifesto that you're a rapist and a pedophile and a traitor.
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Speaker 1: What do you have to say to that? And the
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Speaker 1: president said, you're a disgrace. And she goes, oh, you
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Speaker 1: thought he was talking about you? Feigned ignorance. Not very
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Speaker 1: clever feigned ignorance.
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Speaker 2: Not at all.
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Speaker 1: But it gives the game away. When your excuses are
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Speaker 1: that absurd, when you pretend that you're that stupid, then
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Speaker 1: everybody knows that you're that guilty. So in Comey's case,
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Speaker 1: it's just like ridiculous what he was doing. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Clearly ridiculous. trying to whip his left-wing cheerleaders into a
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Speaker 1: complete frenzy. Look, I said we got to eliminate Trump.
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Speaker 1: Don't you agree? And then pretended like, oh, I didn't
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Speaker 1: have anything to do with it. Not good.
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Speaker 2: Not good.
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Speaker 1: In fact, criminal, according to the United States Department of Justice,
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Speaker 1: which under Todd Blanch, the acting attorney general right now,
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Speaker 1: just dropped a big fat indictment on James Comey's head yesterday.
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Speaker 1: A grand jury with two charges against Here's Todd Blanch
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Speaker 1: yesterday announcing the charges, both involving threats against the President
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Speaker 1: of the United States. Watch this, cut to.
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Speaker 7: Today, a grand jury sitting in the Eastern District of
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Speaker 7: North Carolina returned an indictment against James Comey on two counts.
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Speaker 7: The first count is that on or about May 15th
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Speaker 7: of last year, he knowingly and willfully making a threat
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Speaker 7: to take the life of and to inflict bodily harm
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Speaker 7: upon the President of the United States.
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Speaker 1: Count two.
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Speaker 7: Same day, May 15th, 2025, that the defendant, James Comey,
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Speaker 7: knowingly and willfully transmitting in interstate commerce a communication that
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Speaker 7: contained a threat to kill the president of the United States.
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Speaker 7: Both of these counts carry a maximum term of imprisonment
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Speaker 7: of 10 years. So I think it's fair to say
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Speaker 7: that threatening the life of anybody is dangerous and potentially
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Speaker 7: a crime. Threatening the life of the president of the
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Speaker 7: United States will never be tolerated by the Department of Justice.
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Speaker 1: Now, I want to talk about venues here for a moment.
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Speaker 1: You hear from Todd Blanche. This is happening in the
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Speaker 1: Eastern District of North Carolina, Eastern District of North Carolina. Now,
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Speaker 1: if in case you're concerned about, you know, where where
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Speaker 1: do Democrats concentrate in in North Carolina? That's in the West.
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Speaker 1: That's the western side of the state. The eastern side
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Speaker 1: of the state, you're going to get a lot more conservatives.
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Speaker 1: In other words, you're going to get a lot more
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Speaker 1: rational people, people who will consider this case fairly. They
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Speaker 1: will adhere to the Constitution. They will adhere to the law.
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Speaker 1: They will adhere to justice. And they will render judgments
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Speaker 1: on the basis of that. Eastern North Carolina, love Eastern
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. I've spent a lot of years of my
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Speaker 1: life in Eastern North Carolina living on specifically Camp Lejeune,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. My dad, a Marine, we spent a lot
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Speaker 1: of time there. I worked there in local radio, worked
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Speaker 1: there in the local newspaper business. Loved it. Love Eastern
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. Great people. Just absolutely wonderful Americans. And so,
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Speaker 1: in other words, the jury pool of Eastern North Carolina
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Speaker 1: is composed of wonderful Americans who are going to make
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Speaker 1: rational decisions about how to handle James Comey here, which
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Speaker 1: is good. Everybody, if you stand criminally accused, you deserve
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Speaker 1: a fair day in court. And James Comey is going
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Speaker 1: to get a fair day in court in Eastern North Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Love that.
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Speaker 1: Now, distinguish that from the Eastern District of Virginia, where
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Speaker 1: you had a situation where a grand jury did return
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Speaker 1: charges against Comey, and this was for lying to Congress,
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Speaker 1: lying about his dissemination of information to the media. And
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Speaker 1: yet that case collapsed given the judges who were involved
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Speaker 1: in sort of the corruption inside the jurisdiction. These problems
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Speaker 1: don't exist in the Eastern District of North Carolina right now,
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Speaker 1: God willing. It looks like we're in a much better
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Speaker 1: venue for a real prosecution of this guy. So keep
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Speaker 1: an eye on that element. That's a huge piece of this.
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Speaker 1: And we'll explore the specifics here because, you know, obviously
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Speaker 1: James Comey is already mounting like this sort of ignorance defense, like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know I was threatening the guy and I
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Speaker 1: have my free speech rights and I can post this
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Speaker 1: to Instagram. We'll address all of that in a moment.
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Speaker 1: But first, I just want to concentrate on to what
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Speaker 1: extent is this a politicized prosecution, as the left would say,
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Speaker 1: that this is some sort of selective prosecution dedicated to
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Speaker 1: only the president's political opponents? Todd Blanche says it's nonsense
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Speaker 1: because this very district keeps prosecuting people for threatening government
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Speaker 1: officials and presidents of the United States of both political parties.
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Speaker 1: Here's Todd Blanche yesterday describing this. Listen, cut three.
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Speaker 7: So I think it's fair to say that threatening the
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Speaker 7: life of anybody is dangerous and potentially a crime. Threatening
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Speaker 7: the life of the President of the United States will
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Speaker 7: never be tolerated by the Department of Justice. Over the
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Speaker 7: past year, this department has charged dozens of cases involving
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Speaker 7: threats against all sorts of individuals. We take these seriously,
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Speaker 7: every single one of them. For example, just today in
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Speaker 7: the Northern District of Florida, there was a guilty plea
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Speaker 7: from an individual who threatened multiple political leaders, including President Trump.
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Speaker 7: In the Eastern District of North Carolina, where this case
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Speaker 7: was indicted earlier today, there are multiple threats cases very
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Speaker 7: similar to this one, including one where the defendant pled
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Speaker 7: guilty recently to threatening former President Biden, another one that's
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Speaker 7: scheduled to go to trial this summer, another one indicted,
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Speaker 7: an individual was indicted for threatening Tom Homan. I say
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Speaker 7: that to say that while this case is unique and
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Speaker 7: this indictment stands out because of the name of the defendant,
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Speaker 7: his alleged conduct is the same kind of conduct that
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Speaker 7: we will never tolerate and that we will always investigate
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Speaker 7: and regularly prosecute.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who you are. Nobody's above the law.
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Speaker 1: Your stature, your name ID is not a shield from accountability,
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Speaker 1: nor should it be. So when you say you want
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Speaker 1: to eliminate the president of the United States and you
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Speaker 1: write it out in shell art on the beach, you
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Speaker 1: should be held accountable for your own actions, which is
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Speaker 1: what Comey is being subjected to right now. Now, there
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Speaker 1: are no guarantees about the way this process plays out.
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Speaker 1: You know, James Comey may mount some sort of successful defense.
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Speaker 1: Who knows if he gets a judge that helps throw
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Speaker 1: this out? You know, even Jonathan Turley this morning, I
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Speaker 1: saw posting about this. Turley, no fan of Comey at all.
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Turley came out this morning and he said the
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Speaker 1: following about this indictment. He said in his new column,
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Speaker 1: he goes, I've been one of Comey's longest and most
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Speaker 1: vocal critics. However, it's the Constitution, not Comey, that must
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Speaker 1: drive this analysis. He thinks the indictment is unlikely to
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Speaker 1: survive First Amendment challenges. Maybe true.
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Speaker 5: Maybe.
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Speaker 1: But the reality here is that the Justice Department is
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Speaker 1: bringing this case with evidence. with evidence. In fact, yesterday,
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Speaker 1: one of the reporters asked Todd Blanche, how are you
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Speaker 1: going to prove his intent here? He says that it
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Speaker 1: was just innocent, that they just stumbled upon this on
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Speaker 1: the beach. And Todd Blanche says, we're going to prove
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Speaker 1: it the way every case is proven, with evidence, all
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Speaker 1: of it. Cut five, watch this.
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Speaker 8: So how will you prove intent when, as the director
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Speaker 8: had acknowledged, Mr.
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Speaker 6: Comey said he did not.
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Speaker 9: Associate 86 with doing harm, and he took it down promptly,
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Speaker 9: said it was political speech, not an intent.
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Speaker 6: To harm the president.
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Speaker 7: Well, it's not, it's not, this case was indicted today.
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Speaker 7: This conduct occurred about a year ago, May 15th of
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Speaker 7: last year. There's been a tremendous amount of investigation, and
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Speaker 7: how do you prove intent in any case? You prove
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Speaker 7: intent with witnesses, with documents, with the defendant himself, to
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Speaker 7: the extent it's appropriate. And that's how it will improve
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Speaker 7: intent in this case. And so I think that talking
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Speaker 7: about what Mr. Comey will or will not do if
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Speaker 7: there's a trial, when there's a trial, it's very premature
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Speaker 7: for me to do that today.
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Speaker 1: With evidence. It won't just be the post. It'll be everything.
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Speaker 1: It'll be everything. We're going to present to you every
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Speaker 1: last piece of evidence we have on this subject. And
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Speaker 1: we'll get to the bottom of this. Remember, James Comey
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Speaker 1: was interviewed by government officials after he made this threat.
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Speaker 1: The Secret Service paid him a visit. They talked to him.
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Speaker 1: He made statements to them. All of this is going
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Speaker 1: to go into the evidence in this case against him.
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Speaker 1: And the Justice Department felt confident enough that these charges
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Speaker 1: could stand up through a court process that they brought
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Speaker 1: the charges. So now James Comey is going to have
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Speaker 1: his day in court. Now, remember, somebody in the chat
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Speaker 1: just said this, too, and I completely agree with this.
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Speaker 1: That the process is a punishment here. Now, that's not
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Speaker 1: the reason this is being done. It's not merely to
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Speaker 1: subject him to the process. They're doing this because they
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Speaker 1: believe he genuinely violated the law and they're accusing him
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Speaker 1: of that. And so now he's got to go to
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Speaker 1: court to prove otherwise. But this is a situation where
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Speaker 1: James Comey's got to pay a lawyer. James Comey, he's
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Speaker 1: got to be, he's got to be, he's arrested, he's arraigned,
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Speaker 1: he's mugshot it, he goes through the process. This is all,
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Speaker 1: he's now being subjected to a process that the left
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Speaker 1: has gleefully subjected Donald Trump to over and over and
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Speaker 1: over again on the basis of false charges, false charges
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Speaker 1: that Trump violated laws when he didn't. Now James Comey
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Speaker 1: is being accused of violating a law when it looks
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Speaker 1: pretty clearly like he did. So now he's got to
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Speaker 1: go through the process too. Again, and he's miserable about it.
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 1: It couldn't happen to a better person. Comey deserves it.
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Speaker 1: He definitely does. So this is this is a kind
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Speaker 1: of a fascinating development. I I like seeing that Todd
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Speaker 1: Blanche is doing this. I I'm interested. I think there's
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Speaker 1: something going on in chat. You tell me if you
15:51
Speaker 1: feel like this is. This is your view, too. Do
15:55
Speaker 1: you feel like Todd Blanche represents a sea change at
15:57
Speaker 1: the Justice Department? Chad, tell me, do you think Todd
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Speaker 1: Blanch represents a meaningful change from Pam Bondi at the
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Speaker 1: United States Department of Justice? Is this your sense? Because
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Speaker 1: I feel like what we are witnessing right now is
16:15
Speaker 1: the prosecutorial floodgates are starting to be opened right now
16:19
Speaker 1: at levels. Now, I'm not condemning Pam Bondi's tenure. I
16:23
Speaker 1: think Pam Bondi, there's a lot that the Justice Department
16:26
Speaker 1: has to be proud of from the time that she
16:28
Speaker 1: was in office. Specifically, as it relates to the activities
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Speaker 1: of the FBI, which falls under the Justice Department. The
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Speaker 1: fact that they were able to get the murder rate
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Speaker 1: to the lowest level, the fact that they were bringing
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Speaker 1: all these prosecutions against a lot of Democrats. I've gone
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Speaker 1: through the list before. A lot of Democrats have been prosecuted,
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Speaker 1: high-profile people, to include James Comey. That was in the
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Speaker 1: Eastern District of Virginia, as I said before. But something
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Speaker 1: feels meaningfully different about Todd Blanch here. Because what did
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Speaker 1: we see just in the last week? The Southern Poverty
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Speaker 1: Law Center, this epic money center, On the left, James Comey,
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Speaker 1: now prosecutor in the Eastern District of North Carolina. We
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Speaker 1: just got, and I'm going to get into the details
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Speaker 1: on this in just a moment. We just got a
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Speaker 1: massive indictment of one of the leading operators in the
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Speaker 1: COVID conspiracy. against the United States of America. Not a
17:15
Speaker 1: small deal, massive deal. As Anthony Fauci got a fat
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Speaker 1: pardon from President Autopen, his second in command, this guy
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Speaker 1: David Morins, his chief henchman, just prosecuted by the United
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Speaker 1: States Department of Justice on the basis of stuff that
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Speaker 1: we actually knew about years ago, finally being prosecuted now
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Speaker 1: under Todd Blanch. Is that a coincidence? I think what's
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Speaker 1: happening right now is, and chat's agreeing with me, for
17:39
Speaker 1: those of you listening on the audio podcast, they do
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Speaker 1: think Blanche represents a sea change. Blanche is doing something
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Speaker 1: that Pam Bondi was not. Blanche is doing something that
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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi was not. And I'm here for it because
17:54
Speaker 1: accountability is what I voted for. Accountability is what you
17:57
Speaker 1: voted for. We voted for criminal accountability for people who
18:00
Speaker 1: broke our laws and hurt our country. And all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, we've got rapid fire.
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Speaker 2: Boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Speaker 1: Prosecutions all coming out right now. It's amazing. It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: And we'll get into more of it here in just
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Speaker 1: a moment, including the fact that yesterday, did you guys
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Speaker 1: see this? The FBI raided the Quality Learing Center.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: In Minnesota?
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Speaker 5: Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 1: More of that, please. I've got a lot more coming
18:28
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Speaker 1: great operation. All right, so James Comey gets indicted. The
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Speaker 1: media freakout is definitely here. But look, just to finish
20:07
Speaker 1: on the Comey indictment here for a moment, and we've
20:09
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about because the Justice Department
20:11
Speaker 1: was staying very busy yesterday. Here is the U.S. attorney
20:14
Speaker 1: in the Eastern District of Virginia yesterday. The Eastern District,
20:17
Speaker 1: excuse me, of North Carolina yesterday. Boyle is his last name.
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Speaker 1: And here's what he was saying about why this is
20:24
Speaker 1: taking place and how James Comey is not going to
20:27
Speaker 1: receive any special treatment whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Listen. Thank you, Mr.
20:31
Speaker 5: Attorney General. Earlier today, a grand jury in the Eastern
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Speaker 5: District of North Carolina returned a true bill indicting Mr.
20:41
Speaker 5: James Comey with committing two felonies. Count one, he knowingly
20:47
Speaker 5: and willfully made a threat to kill and to inflict
20:50
Speaker 5: bodily harm upon the President of the United States in
20:54
Speaker 5: violation of 18 USC 871A. Count two, He knowingly and
21:02
Speaker 5: willfully transmitted an interstate and foreign commerce, a communication that
21:08
Speaker 5: contained a threat to kill President Trump in violation of
21:14
Speaker 5: 18 USC.
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Speaker 2: 875C. Mr.
21:19
Speaker 5: Comey will be given every form of due process all
21:24
Speaker 5: citizens are entitled to receive, to include a trial by
21:29
Speaker 5: a jury of his peers. In the Eastern District of
21:33
Speaker 5: North Carolina, it doesn't matter who you are. We take
21:37
Speaker 5: all threat cases seriously and prosecute anyone who violates federal law,
21:44
Speaker 5: regardless of title or status.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
21:49
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you, Mr.
21:50
Speaker 2: U.S. Attorney.
21:52
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother, for doing this. So James Comey now
21:56
Speaker 1: being prosecuted for his threats. You know, and Comey, And
21:59
Speaker 1: through the years, you know, even in even in the
22:02
Speaker 1: reinterpretation of 86, 47, I didn't mean to kill him.
22:05
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to kill him. I just meant to
22:07
Speaker 1: stagnate him. I meant to hog tie him. I meant
22:09
Speaker 1: to slow him down. Well, James Comey has been pulling
22:12
Speaker 1: that kind of crap for years, too. Remember, he leaked
22:15
Speaker 1: his personal conversations with the president of the United States,
22:19
Speaker 1: memorialized on official government documents to The New York Times.
22:23
Speaker 1: And then he claimed that, oh, those were my personal memos,
22:27
Speaker 1: therefore I was allowed to leak them. No, you weren't.
22:29
Speaker 1: Those were government documents. You absolute scam artist. And he
22:33
Speaker 1: did that to get a special counsel appointed, Bob Mueller,
22:36
Speaker 1: remember that? And then Mueller gets appointed, and then the
22:39
Speaker 1: rest is history. The rest is history. The Trump-Russia collusion
22:43
Speaker 1: conspiracy hoax was given some of its biggest flames by
22:48
Speaker 1: the most gas on the fire by James Comey. And
22:51
Speaker 1: here's Basically, the consequences of Comey's behavior beginning to catch
22:56
Speaker 1: up with him.
22:57
Speaker 2: Good.
22:57
Speaker 5: Good.
22:58
Speaker 1: Now you get to face down the justice system that
22:59
Speaker 1: you abused. Have fun with that.
23:02
Speaker 2: OK.
23:04
Speaker 1: The FBI yesterday raided the Quality Learing Center and and
23:09
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other places and more than 20
23:11
Speaker 1: other businesses all across Minnesota yesterday, which is that's a
23:17
Speaker 1: great deal of fun for those of us who would
23:19
Speaker 1: like to see justice in the world. Here is the
23:21
Speaker 1: New York Post recitation of the news yesterday. Quality Learing Center,
23:26
Speaker 1: 20 other Minnesota daycares rated by FBI as a part
23:30
Speaker 1: of a massive fraud investigation. The FBI rating the infamous
23:34
Speaker 1: Quality Learing Center and more than 20 other businesses all
23:38
Speaker 1: across the state. They were investigating a multi-billion dollar social
23:42
Speaker 1: services fraud ring. These are tied, of course, to businesses
23:47
Speaker 1: in the Somali-American community. community, sources telling the Post. Quote,
23:52
Speaker 1: today the FBI with federal, state, and local law enforcement
23:55
Speaker 1: involved in court-authorized law enforcement activity as a part of
23:58
Speaker 1: an ongoing fraud investigation, Justice Department official telling the New
24:02
Speaker 1: York Post. You can see the FBI agents raiding what
24:05
Speaker 1: looks like the outside of the Quality Learing Center in
24:08
Speaker 1: this image, rumble.com slash Vince for you to see it.
24:11
Speaker 1: Agents used a battering ram to enter at least one
24:13
Speaker 1: of the alleged daycares, Metro Learning Center, according to KTSP.
24:18
Speaker 1: The targets include the Quality Learing Center, as well as
24:24
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other places. President Trump had announced
24:26
Speaker 1: this war on fraud in his February State of the
24:28
Speaker 1: Union address, and he put Vice President J.D. Vance in
24:32
Speaker 1: charge of the task force. Of course, they also have
24:35
Speaker 1: an assistant U.S. attorney now who's reporting directly to the
24:38
Speaker 1: vice president on this. And they went after these guys.
24:41
Speaker 1: They went after all these guys. And they're trying to
24:44
Speaker 1: take down these fraudsters. Remember, when it comes to the
24:47
Speaker 1: Somali American community and the fraud that's being perpetrated by them,
24:54
Speaker 1: this goes back to back in November, the New York
24:57
Speaker 1: Times had a piece on the way that fraudsters, Somali
25:02
Speaker 1: fraudsters are motivated by their culture. And this is actually interesting.
25:07
Speaker 1: I'm going to pull this up for you as I'm
25:08
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Stealing from the government is widespread activity.
25:12
Speaker 1: in Somali culture, according to the New York Times. In fact,
25:17
Speaker 1: they had a guy called Dr. Samatar talking about American
25:20
Speaker 1: society and how it's vulnerable to this kind of Somali fraud.
25:24
Speaker 1: This is one of my, but I think this is
25:26
Speaker 1: one of my favorite stories to cite because of what
25:30
Speaker 1: the New York Times even just reveals about it. So
25:33
Speaker 1: here's their guy, Dr. Samatar. He's their Somali American expert.
25:37
Speaker 1: And Dr. Samatar said, lays out that basically the Somalis
25:43
Speaker 1: are coming in and stealing from Americans because that's their culture.
25:47
Speaker 1: Ahmad Samatar, this is what he said in the piece.
25:49
Speaker 1: A professor at Macalester College, who is a leading expert
25:53
Speaker 1: in Somali studies, said a reckoning over the fraud and
25:55
Speaker 1: its consequences for Minnesota was overdue. Quote, American society and
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Speaker 1: the denizens of the state of Minnesota have been extremely
26:03
Speaker 1: good to Somalis, said Dr. Samatar, who is a Somali-American. Dr. Samatar,
26:09
Speaker 1: that's true. They have, Americans have been very good to Somalis.
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Speaker 2: Dr.
26:13
Speaker 1: Samatar said that Somali refugees who came to the United
26:15
Speaker 1: States after their country's civil war were raised in a
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Speaker 1: culture in which stealing from the country's dysfunctional and corrupt
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Speaker 1: government was widespread. In other words, it's a part of
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Speaker 1: the culture. Quote, Minnesota, he said, proved susceptible to rampant
26:30
Speaker 1: fraud because it is so tolerant, so open, and so
26:35
Speaker 1: geared toward keeping an eye on the weak. Now, this
26:42
Speaker 1: is not true. There may be people in Minnesota who
26:46
Speaker 1: are these kinds of suckers. But the reason why Minnesota
26:50
Speaker 1: is so susceptible to this kind of fraud is because
26:54
Speaker 1: Democrats have been aiding and abetting it knowingly. Tim Walz
26:59
Speaker 1: knew that this fraud was going on. He was aiding
27:01
Speaker 1: it and abetting it. Keith Ellison is caught on tape
27:05
Speaker 1: aiding and abetting fraudsters who wanted investigations into their fraud
27:11
Speaker 1: to go away. And he told them, money buys you freedom.
27:14
Speaker 1: Donate to my campaign. We'll hassle them. One phone call
27:17
Speaker 1: from the attorney general's office tends to get the results
27:20
Speaker 1: that we want. That was Keith Ellison caught on tape
27:24
Speaker 1: saying that, speaking of someone who should be prosecuted. So no,
27:28
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that Dr. Samatar gets wrong here.
27:30
Speaker 1: It's not merely fraud. this sort of like doe-eyed optimism,
27:34
Speaker 1: like just like complete like ignorance of the fact that
27:37
Speaker 1: you're being robbed. That's not what's happening here. The Democrats
27:41
Speaker 1: are aiding and abetting the theft of American taxpayer money
27:44
Speaker 1: to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. That's
27:46
Speaker 1: really going on. But this New York Times piece, again,
27:49
Speaker 1: from November of last year, points out that this is cultural.
27:54
Speaker 1: They were raised in a culture in which stealing from
27:56
Speaker 1: the country's government was widespread.
27:59
Speaker 5: Okay.
28:00
Speaker 1: Well, then don't come here and steal from us. All
28:03
Speaker 1: we ask for immigration is assimilation. I mean, we ask,
28:06
Speaker 1: is it good for America? And if it's going to
28:08
Speaker 1: be good for America, assimilate into our culture. Our culture
28:11
Speaker 1: is not stealing from one another. Our culture is law
28:13
Speaker 1: and order. Our culture is sovereignty. Our culture is love
28:16
Speaker 1: of country. Our culture is respect for one another, neighborliness.
28:20
Speaker 1: Our culture is being a patriotic American. That's our culture.
28:24
Speaker 1: You're stealing from Americans? You're none of those things. Sorry,
28:28
Speaker 1: you're none of those things. And even the New York
28:30
Speaker 1: Times admits that it's a cultural problem, a huge one.
28:33
Speaker 1: So now we're seeing the effects of it. And so
28:35
Speaker 1: we got these huge raids going on in Minnesota, thank God,
28:39
Speaker 1: under Todd Blanch's Justice Department, Kash Patel's FBI, President Trump's administration.
28:45
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Tampon Tim Walz yesterday came out
28:50
Speaker 1: and he tried to take credit for it. Yeah, no,
28:52
Speaker 1: you heard me correctly. Tampon Tim Walz yesterday tried to
28:56
Speaker 1: take credit for this. Yesterday, he goes, today's raids by
29:01
Speaker 1: state and federal enforcement happened because our state agencies caught
29:05
Speaker 1: irregular behavior and reported it, he claims. That's how the
29:10
Speaker 1: system's supposed to work. And our agencies will keep at
29:12
Speaker 1: it as long as there are fraudsters around to put
29:14
Speaker 1: behind bars. He said, he goes on, he goes, now
29:17
Speaker 1: let's work on a joint investigation into the killings of
29:20
Speaker 1: Alex Preddy and Renee Goode. You psycho, you absolute psycho.
29:24
Speaker 1: So the guy who is encouraging people like Alex Preddy
29:26
Speaker 1: and Renee Goode to block and assault law enforcement officers,
29:30
Speaker 1: now wants an investigation into how it is that they died.
29:34
Speaker 1: I would start with you, you utter jackass. The blood
29:37
Speaker 1: is on your hands for Alex preddy and renee good
29:41
Speaker 1: and then um and then this idea that he gets
29:43
Speaker 1: credit for the raids on the somali fraudsters who've been
29:47
Speaker 1: running rampant in his state it's laughable for any number
29:51
Speaker 1: of reasons but uh that one of the guys helping
29:53
Speaker 1: us to laugh at this cash but no cash but
29:56
Speaker 1: the guide director jumped in on this yesterday and he
29:58
Speaker 1: goes come again This FBI and DOJ, with our DHS partners,
30:04
Speaker 1: drafted and executed every single search warrant today. But go
30:08
Speaker 1: ahead and take credit for our work while we smoke
30:11
Speaker 1: out the fraud plaguing Minnesota under your governorship. Good for Cash.
30:18
Speaker 1: The FBI director going, you get no credit. We award
30:21
Speaker 1: you zero points and may God have mercy on your soul.
30:25
Speaker 1: That's the reaction from Cash Patel. Wonderful news. Wonderful news.
30:30
Speaker 1: All right. In a moment, we're going to talk about,
30:33
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30:42
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30:42
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30:47
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30:51
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33:42
Speaker 1: But yesterday, we get COVID consequences. Anthony Fauci's top advisor, Dr.
33:49
Speaker 1: David Morins, has been charged with conspiracy against the United
33:54
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33:59
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Speaker 1: prosecuting right now for the COVID chaos. He deserves it. Remember,
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Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci was given this big pardon by President Autopen,
34:25
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Speaker 1: court and see how much that Autopen stands up. But
34:37
Speaker 1: this guy, David Morins, is a big fish in this fight,
34:42
Speaker 1: a very big one. He's the ex-NIAID official, and he's
34:47
Speaker 1: looking at up to 51 years in prison. for concealing
34:52
Speaker 1: all sorts of information of value to the American public
34:55
Speaker 1: and destroying it. In fact, in emails that were released
35:00
Speaker 1: a couple years ago, he just admitted over and over
35:03
Speaker 1: and over again that he was destroying things, that he
35:05
Speaker 1: was using his private email to hide things from the
35:08
Speaker 1: American people. He was expressing things on a private account.
35:11
Speaker 1: He said, quote, there are things I can't say Except
35:16
Speaker 1: Tony is aware, and I have learned that there are
35:18
Speaker 1: ongoing efforts within NIH to steer this through with minimal
35:21
Speaker 1: damage to you, Peter, and colleagues, and to NIH and NIAID.
35:27
Speaker 1: He says this is an April 26, 2020 email that
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Speaker 1: he sent to Peter Dajak, one of the chief conspirators
35:35
Speaker 1: here in the COVID chaos. And he talked about how
35:40
Speaker 1: the FOIA lady at his agency had taught him how
35:43
Speaker 1: to evade FOIA and delete information. They were deleting things
35:47
Speaker 1: before FOIA requests were coming in. So in other words,
35:50
Speaker 1: we have known for years that this guy was actively
35:53
Speaker 1: destroying information about COVID to prevent you from knowing anything
35:56
Speaker 1: about it. We've known it for years. But apparently it
36:00
Speaker 1: took Todd Blanche arriving at the Justice Department to finally
36:03
Speaker 1: see a prosecution, to finally see a prosecution. In fact,
36:08
Speaker 1: David Morin's sins were so obvious to even Democrat members
36:11
Speaker 1: of Congress that at one point, Democrat Congressman Kwesi Mfume,
36:15
Speaker 1: back in testimony in 2024, said to David Morin's, your
36:20
Speaker 1: testimony today is going to come back and haunt you.
36:23
Speaker 1: Take a look at this clip. This is back in 2024,
36:26
Speaker 1: May of 24.
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Speaker 2: Cut one.
36:28
Speaker 1: Here's David Morin's testifying before Congress.
36:30
Speaker 2: Watch. Dr. Morin's, what else do you feel responsible for? Pardon?
36:35
Speaker 2: What else do you feel responsible for?
36:39
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm getting this echo here, and I just,
36:41
Speaker 8: let me, should I turn off my microphone?
36:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're using my time. Let me ask you, why
36:46
Speaker 2: didn't you report any of this to the ethics office?
36:51
Speaker 5: I don't know.
36:52
Speaker 8: I don't even know what our ethics office does, but
36:55
Speaker 8: Peter certainly reported it.
36:57
Speaker 2: Peter reported it to the ethics office. I'm not worried
36:58
Speaker 2: about Peter. I'm talking about you. Peter's not here. I
37:01
Speaker 2: just want to know, if you thought this was ethically
37:04
Speaker 2: incorrect or improper, why didn't you report it? to the
37:08
Speaker 2: ethics office.
37:10
Speaker 8: What are you referring to as what being ethically improper?
37:13
Speaker 2: Well, you just said, you asked him why was he
37:15
Speaker 2: sending this to one email account when it should have
37:18
Speaker 2: gone to another one.
37:20
Speaker 8: And you're asking me whether I thought what he was
37:22
Speaker 8: doing was unethical? What I was doing is unethical?
37:27
Speaker 2: Sir, I think you're going to be haunted by your
37:30
Speaker 2: testimony today. And it's unfortunate. It's all on the record.
37:35
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make a lot of sense to many
37:37
Speaker 2: of us, certainly not to me.
37:39
Speaker 1: That's even a Democrat said that. That's David Morins, now indicted.
37:45
Speaker 1: Joining us right now to discuss what this all means
37:48
Speaker 1: is David Asher. David Asher is with the Hudson Institute.
37:52
Speaker 1: He was also in the State Department as the lead
37:54
Speaker 1: investigator into the origins of COVID and just left the
37:57
Speaker 1: State Department again working for President Trump investigating weapons of
38:01
Speaker 1: mass destruction. David Asher, great to have you back with me, sir.
38:05
Speaker 6: Thanks very much.
38:07
Speaker 1: Tell me how consequential this is. How big of a
38:09
Speaker 1: deal is this?
38:10
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big deal because it's the beginning
38:13
Speaker 3: of a conspiracy indictment, it appears to me. Morin's indictment
38:21
Speaker 3: indicates there's two co-conspirators, one who almost everyone on the
38:26
Speaker 3: internet and myself agree is Peter Daszak, the head of
38:31
Speaker 3: the EcoHealth Alliance, the organization that was used as the
38:34
Speaker 3: funnel to move a huge amount of the NIAID national
38:40
Speaker 3: NIH money to China and to researchers around the country
38:45
Speaker 3: that are engaged in dangerous gain-of-function research as well. And
38:51
Speaker 3: then another individual who is a former NIH NIAID senior
38:55
Speaker 3: official who's at Boston University.
38:58
Speaker 6: When you're a co-conspirator, in my experience, and I've worked on.
39:02
Speaker 3: Everything from Gambino, a crime family on down in terms
39:04
Speaker 3: of indictments and RICO conspiracies, you are basically almost certainly
39:11
Speaker 3: going to be indicted if you're not indicted already.
39:13
Speaker 6: I mean, if you're a conspirator, you're a conspirator.
39:16
Speaker 3: So I think this is the beginning, not the end
39:19
Speaker 3: of a wider process of justice being finally brought to
39:23
Speaker 3: these people that ultimately resulted in the killing, basically, of
39:29
Speaker 3: between 20 20 and 27 million people around the world,
39:32
Speaker 3: including 1.3 million Americans.
39:34
Speaker 6: It's crazy. It's crazy our government funded this stuff.
39:38
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, why do you think it took
39:40
Speaker 1: so long? We knew David Morins was destroying this information
39:44
Speaker 1: for years. That was a matter of public record for
39:47
Speaker 1: well over two years now. Why did it take until
39:49
Speaker 1: Todd Blanch arrived?
39:51
Speaker 6: I don't know.
39:52
Speaker 3: Todd's a good financial prosecutor. That's why the president hired
39:56
Speaker 3: him in his defense when he was being ridiculously accused
40:00
Speaker 3: of real estate fraud, which is nuts for paying too much,
40:05
Speaker 3: too much tax. I mean, it's like no one's heard
40:07
Speaker 3: of that before in New York City. You know, it's
40:10
Speaker 3: it's it's it's I think it was, you know, the
40:13
Speaker 3: FBI's been pushing for this for a long time.
40:15
Speaker 6: They've had a.
40:17
Speaker 3: Closed up investigation for over two years. I don't know
40:21
Speaker 3: why A.G. Bondi didn't move this forward. But knowing Todd,
40:28
Speaker 3: I think he's just got a sense of injustice and
40:31
Speaker 3: an injustice. And he knows that these charges are not
40:40
Speaker 3: inherently that strong coming out of the gate.
40:42
Speaker 6: But it's what comes up afterward.
40:45
Speaker 3: Like yesterday, we learned that Ralph Baric, who is really
40:48
Speaker 3: the most important U.S. contributor to the creation of COVID-19
40:51
Speaker 3: at University of North Carolina, was banned from the campus,
40:56
Speaker 3: as far as I can understand it. All of his
40:59
Speaker 3: grants were stripped from him. And it sounds like he's
41:02
Speaker 3: basically being removed from the faculty. That indicates to me
41:05
Speaker 3: that if he's not under indictment, he's under something really serious.
41:10
Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably the most legendary and capable genetic
41:19
Speaker 3: virus developer in the world. And he trained the bat
41:23
Speaker 3: lady in China. So this sounds like this is the
41:30
Speaker 3: beginning of a RICO conspiracy case, which would be justified
41:35
Speaker 3: after all these years.
41:36
Speaker 6: Why didn't it happen before?
41:38
Speaker 3: You're telling me, Vince, I don't know.
41:40
Speaker 6: I mean, it makes no sense.
41:41
Speaker 1: So a lot of these guys, as you well know,
41:44
Speaker 1: perhaps better than most, definitely better than most, a lot
41:48
Speaker 1: of these guys who you're citing were involved in quite
41:51
Speaker 1: clearly a conspiracy to conceal the origins of COVID. They
41:54
Speaker 1: were manipulating the scientific literature to prevent the public from
41:57
Speaker 1: realizing that it's very– it's in fact almost entirely certain.
42:01
Speaker 1: that the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology,
42:04
Speaker 1: yet they conspired to hide that detail while having financial
42:07
Speaker 1: interests in the question.
42:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, and receiving tens of millions of dollars in grants
42:15
Speaker 3: from NIAID in effect for being part of the conspiracy
42:19
Speaker 3: to conceal. You know, one of the most notorious is
42:22
Speaker 3: a guy named Christian Anderson at Scripps Institute in California.
42:25
Speaker 6: I think he received $ 8.
42:27
Speaker 3: 7 million from Fauci after he agreed to switch his
42:31
Speaker 3: position when he was asked what the origin was, and
42:33
Speaker 3: he originally said it almost certainly came out of a
42:37
Speaker 3: lab accident, and it was based on the sequence that
42:42
Speaker 3: he analyzed where he saw small but technically important irregularities
42:48
Speaker 3: that almost were certainly inserted by humans, not by nature.
42:53
Speaker 3: He went from saying that it was like 80% certain
42:56
Speaker 3: it came out of a lab in a period of
42:58
Speaker 3: like three or four days to saying it was like
43:02
Speaker 3: no percentage possible. It never provided any evidence. And this
43:06
Speaker 3: was all in their emails. All this stuff came out
43:08
Speaker 3: in the emails. And it was after he met with
43:10
Speaker 3: Fauci repeatedly. And Fauci and I would assume Morins in
43:14
Speaker 3: the background greased the skids and said, hey, you guys
43:18
Speaker 3: switch your position.
43:19
Speaker 6: We'll pay you millions of dollars. Shut up. And the
43:22
Speaker 6: Chinese paid him too, by the way.
43:25
Speaker 1: I wanna get into China in a moment, but just
43:27
Speaker 1: so people realize that COVID, the bug, COVID-19, was a
43:33
Speaker 1: picture-perfect match for what Peter Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance were
43:37
Speaker 1: trying to generate with DARPA. They had previously filed a
43:41
Speaker 1: grant request with DARPA, and they described in detail what
43:44
Speaker 1: COVID-19 ended up looking like. And so I saw somebody
43:47
Speaker 1: say early in this process when it became clear that
43:50
Speaker 1: this was man-made, they said, well, wait a second, the
43:52
Speaker 1: guy applied. It'd be like applying to strap horns to
43:55
Speaker 1: the heads of horses, and then all of a sudden
43:56
Speaker 1: unicorns start popping out of of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
44:00
Speaker 1: And people are like, well, of course, it was Peter
44:02
Speaker 1: Dajak and EcoHealth Alliance funded by American taxpayers.
44:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one did a better job of capturing the
44:07
Speaker 3: absurdity of this than Jon Stewart did several years ago. But,
44:12
Speaker 3: you know, like, you know, the Wuhan Institute, the only
44:15
Speaker 3: place in the world where you study bat-borne coronaviruses, it's
44:19
Speaker 3: a thousand miles away from any bat, basically, that could
44:23
Speaker 3: be associated with it because they.
44:27
Speaker 6: harvest bats from all over Asia, including China.
44:30
Speaker 3: And so like, you know, you know, you know, the
44:31
Speaker 3: bat didn't mate with the pangolin, which is this weird
44:34
Speaker 3: armadillo like creature, but it does have a pangolin, uh,
44:38
Speaker 3: like a receptor binder domain, I believe in it. So,
44:42
Speaker 3: you know, what happened was this is pure genetic engineering.
44:45
Speaker 3: I've been involved in biotechnology for many years, uh, uh, uh, including, uh, uh,
44:51
Speaker 3: I'll admit it for maybe the first time on TV, uh,
44:56
Speaker 3: Our partners in Europe are the Meru family, who built
45:01
Speaker 3: the Wuhan Institute of Virology's BSL-4.
45:05
Speaker 6: High-end lab, the one that's all glass and shiny. They
45:08
Speaker 6: oversaw the construction.
45:10
Speaker 3: They warned me personally back in 2017 that they thought
45:14
Speaker 3: that Wuhan Institute was involved in a biological weapons program.
45:18
Speaker 3: And that was because they got kicked out. They were
45:21
Speaker 3: supposed to have 50 researchers from France on site. And
45:24
Speaker 3: so this is one of the first things I described
45:26
Speaker 3: to Secretary Pompeo and the staff when I asked to
45:31
Speaker 3: be allowed to investigate the origin of COVID. I said,
45:34
Speaker 3: you know, I've been hearing about this for years. And
45:36
Speaker 3: by the way, the intelligence community was given that same
45:38
Speaker 3: information in 2017 by the French, and so was the
45:43
Speaker 3: State Department.
45:44
Speaker 6: And it was ignored.
45:46
Speaker 3: We had the information in our systems when I started
45:50
Speaker 3: at State in late 2019 under Pompeo. So even before
45:56
Speaker 3: COVID had come out of the gates in a global way,
46:00
Speaker 3: we knew that there was very suspicious bioweapons-related activity going
46:05
Speaker 3: on at that institute.
46:06
Speaker 6: And it was ignored.
46:09
Speaker 3: And so I'm very grateful to Acting AG Blanche, who's
46:13
Speaker 3: a great guy and a real effective individual. for making,
46:18
Speaker 3: and Kash Patel, who's another awesome individual, for making this
46:22
Speaker 3: thing happen.
46:23
Speaker 6: You know, because the evidence has been there for years.
46:25
Speaker 6: We have so much information on our systems.
46:28
Speaker 3: I mean, just being back at state, dealing with biological weapons,
46:33
Speaker 3: in part, you know, the stuff the Chinese are doing
46:36
Speaker 3: now makes the Wuhan Institute work on COVID look like nothing.
46:41
Speaker 6: But the key thing is, this was synthetic biology. We
46:44
Speaker 6: can prove that. And we know it from information.
46:50
Speaker 3: That the FBI will present, I'm sure, in the context
46:53
Speaker 3: of this Morin's court trial. Synthetic biology could save us
46:58
Speaker 3: all through carrying cancers and things or kill us all.
47:03
Speaker 6: And right now, my.
47:04
Speaker 3: Unfortunate view is it's more likely to kill us all.
47:08
Speaker 3: unless we try to regulate what our opponents are doing
47:12
Speaker 3: to use it against us.
47:13
Speaker 1: But if I'm understanding what you're saying about China correctly,
47:15
Speaker 1: China right now, in your view, has man-made viruses that
47:19
Speaker 1: could threaten to destroy humanity?
47:21
Speaker 6: Absolutely. MERS that can spread very readily.
47:26
Speaker 3: Ebola that can spread not just readily, but actually slightly
47:32
Speaker 3: more slowly than normal. So the thing about Ebola, it
47:34
Speaker 3: kills people off so quickly it doesn't spread very fast.
47:37
Speaker 3: So they're doing this with synthetic biology. So these are
47:40
Speaker 3: viruses that are almost unstoppable in terms of the deadliness.
47:44
Speaker 3: I mean, Ebola was like 80% kill rate, you know,
47:47
Speaker 3: MERS 50%. I mean, why are they doing research on
47:50
Speaker 3: these viruses? And we know they're doing it and it's
47:53
Speaker 3: not even classified. I mean, we see it in their papers,
47:56
Speaker 3: but we know on the classified level, I can't get into,
47:58
Speaker 3: but it'll scare the hell out of you when that
48:00
Speaker 3: stuff becomes declassified, which I expect could happen in the
48:04
Speaker 3: context of this Morin's court case. I think this thing
48:07
Speaker 3: is the beginning of something bigger.
48:09
Speaker 1: One more on the potential for the threat from China
48:12
Speaker 1: and whatever viruses they have. I remember during the pandemic,
48:14
Speaker 1: there was some consideration that perhaps China had viruses that
48:18
Speaker 1: were targeted based on genetics. In other words, they could
48:22
Speaker 1: protect the Chinese people from a virus, but they would
48:25
Speaker 1: kill lots of others, or they would specifically target people
48:28
Speaker 1: on the basis of their genetics. Is that your understanding
48:30
Speaker 1: of Yeah.
48:31
Speaker 3: They've been working on genetically selected agents since at least
48:34
Speaker 3: 2011 when they declared that they were doing so at
48:36
Speaker 3: the Biological Weapons Convention meeting in Europe. And so, you know,
48:43
Speaker 3: I assume they've been working on it before that. I
48:45
Speaker 3: don't know that they can actually achieve that effect yet,
48:47
Speaker 3: but in theory, it can be achieved. You can definitely
48:51
Speaker 3: target certain types of genetic traits online. My friend Steve
48:56
Speaker 3: Quay is a famous doctor and genetic researcher into cancer,
49:00
Speaker 3: but he's also become a famous expert on COVID. He's
49:06
Speaker 3: got a book coming out on the sequence of COVID
49:09
Speaker 3: where he basically explains how all this is possible.
49:13
Speaker 6: And we know they're working on it.
49:15
Speaker 3: I mean, whether they can do it yet, I don't
49:17
Speaker 3: think COVID was a genetically selected agent.
49:20
Speaker 6: But they had the aspirations for it to be. This
49:23
Speaker 6: thing is just so, this is such a cesspool of
49:25
Speaker 6: dirt and grime.
49:29
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous that the US government contributed to the creation
49:34
Speaker 3: of a pandemic that killed 1.3 million of our citizens
49:37
Speaker 3: and cost us over 60% of GDP. I mean, it's
49:40
Speaker 3: amazing our country is held together through all this. And
49:43
Speaker 3: I give President Trump a lot of credit for leadership.
49:45
Speaker 6: Look, he almost died of this thing too.
49:47
Speaker 1: How deep is the Chinese corruption in the United States
49:51
Speaker 1: that confounded our ability to confront this? Because Dr. Fauci,
49:55
Speaker 1: I remember early in the pandemic, was making excuses for China,
49:58
Speaker 1: saying they were being great partners. The World Health Organization
50:01
Speaker 1: was entirely controlled by China. Their leader was hand-selected by China.
50:08
Speaker 1: And they made excuses for the Chinese throughout the beginning
50:12
Speaker 1: of all of this. How much is Chinese corruption a
50:14
Speaker 1: factor in this?
50:16
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think it's corruption. I think it's actually
50:18
Speaker 6: covert action.
50:18
Speaker 3: You know, I've run several major covert action programs in
50:23
Speaker 3: my career against foreign adversaries. And what the Chinese are
50:26
Speaker 3: doing here is it goes beyond cooptation of individuals.
50:30
Speaker 6: It's systematic. It's top down.
50:33
Speaker 3: And it's being controlled through a wide network of individuals, institutions.
50:40
Speaker 3: They're using money as a tool to entrap people. And
50:45
Speaker 3: that's a classic intelligence operations technique. All of us who
50:49
Speaker 3: worked in Intel were taught when we were going through
50:53
Speaker 3: our school years.
50:55
Speaker 2: They entrapped the.
51:00
Speaker 6: NIH, and they.
51:01
Speaker 3: Entrapped the scientists around the world with the lure of
51:07
Speaker 3: being able to go to China, earn miles, stay at
51:10
Speaker 3: fancy hotels, and receive tens of millions of dollars, not
51:14
Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars in grants. And then they
51:16
Speaker 3: trapped the National Institutes of Health itself by encouraging it
51:22
Speaker 3: to basically promote what's called the Thousand Talents Program. NIH
51:27
Speaker 3: on its website, even today, I believe, still has a
51:30
Speaker 3: web page that's promoting the Thousand Talents Program for China,
51:34
Speaker 3: which is a recruitment for their intelligence service. I mean,
51:38
Speaker 3: the silly season has not ended. And we've got to,
51:42
Speaker 3: we still have to make an effort to bring this
51:45
Speaker 3: whole wall of China that's confronting our basically public health
51:52
Speaker 3: system down. I mean, let's not forget, though, that I
51:56
Speaker 3: worked on a lot of other stuff related to China
51:58
Speaker 3: at State in the last year. I mean, the biggest
52:00
Speaker 3: cyber operations in history that attacked our phone system, attacked
52:04
Speaker 3: our logistics system, attacked our banking system, and salt typhoon.
52:09
Speaker 3: These are the largest attacks in history. What have we
52:11
Speaker 3: done to respond?
52:12
Speaker 6: Actually, nothing. You know, what have we done to respond
52:15
Speaker 6: to COVID? Until now, nothing. But I have hope that
52:19
Speaker 6: there'll be a response finally. The president really wants to
52:22
Speaker 6: have a.
52:22
Speaker 3: Good relationship with Xi Jinping, but he needs to realize
52:25
Speaker 3: to have a good relationship with the Chinese, you've got
52:28
Speaker 3: to have a relationship based on coercion, the same way
52:31
Speaker 3: they approach us. In The Art of the Deal, he
52:34
Speaker 3: actually extensively talks about that. I hope he just rereads
52:40
Speaker 3: his own great book before he goes and meets with
52:42
Speaker 3: Xi because these people are arch manipulators of our own gullibility.
52:48
Speaker 1: The president realizes that strength is leverage. I mean, that
52:53
Speaker 1: an adversary like Xi Jinping will respect strength when President
52:57
Speaker 1: Trump demonstrates this. I think you're right about that. Lastly,
53:01
Speaker 1: I know you've got a busy day today, David Asher.
53:04
Speaker 1: We talk about these indictments for COVID. What are the chances,
53:07
Speaker 1: you think, that we get more of them quickly? What
53:11
Speaker 1: do you anticipate here?
53:12
Speaker 6: I mean.
53:13
Speaker 3: This guy, Derek, who is really the central conspirator as
53:16
Speaker 3: a scientist, he's the guy who mastered the ability to
53:19
Speaker 3: edit the coronavirus genome and synthesize it. I mean, he's
53:27
Speaker 3: been basically fired, it looks like, from the University of
53:30
Speaker 3: North Carolina, where he's been their all-star scientist for decades,
53:34
Speaker 3: for some reason. You got to assume it's tied in.
53:37
Speaker 3: It happened on the same day as The morons indictment
53:40
Speaker 3: was unveiled. So, you know, logically, it would seem that
53:42
Speaker 3: it's likely that he's tied into it.
53:45
Speaker 1: In other words, there's very likely a sealed indictment into him.
53:48
Speaker 3: And I mean, it would seem that way just based
53:50
Speaker 3: on it'd be a hell of a coincidence.
53:52
Speaker 6: If it's not, you know.
53:54
Speaker 3: And then, you know, you've got a network of of individuals,
53:59
Speaker 3: you know, including people inside the government. We've had six
54:02
Speaker 3: whistleblowers from CIA who've come forward to the Senate and
54:06
Speaker 3: House Intelligence Committee. about the fact that they were, under Biden,
54:10
Speaker 3: were given bonuses for basically changing their view on the
54:14
Speaker 3: origin of COVID from moderate to high confidence that it
54:19
Speaker 3: was lab-borne and came out of an accident in China
54:23
Speaker 3: to it came out of nature. I mean, like, this
54:27
Speaker 3: thing's going to go to a very high level, including
54:29
Speaker 3: up to President Biden himself, I'm pretty confident, which.
54:33
Speaker 6: Is why he pardoned his whole family. And, you know,
54:35
Speaker 6: he pardoned himself. He wasn't dying.
54:38
Speaker 3: So this is– I think this– we're heading toward a
54:42
Speaker 3: sort of denouement maybe here finally, and thank God for it.
54:46
Speaker 3: It's just five years too late.
54:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of the biggest events of our entire lives,
54:50
Speaker 1: and I think it was– even with James Comey being
54:52
Speaker 1: prosecuted yesterday, I think that the David Morin's prosecution was
54:55
Speaker 1: the biggest story of Justice Department accountability and an important
55:00
Speaker 1: one we desperately need. David Asher, thank you very much
55:02
Speaker 1: for your time. We could definitely talk for hours. We
55:05
Speaker 1: have in the past, and I'll definitely have you back.
55:07
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
55:07
Speaker 6: Thank you, Vince. You're the best.
55:09
Speaker 1: David Asher with the Hudson Institute. The guy's been right
55:13
Speaker 1: at the center of investigating all of this. And yeah,
55:15
Speaker 1: isn't he great? Fooey50 said, excellent, intelligent guest. Yeah, David's
55:18
Speaker 1: great because he's got this wonderful knowledge and wonderful insight
55:22
Speaker 1: and an unfortunate front row seat to all of this chaos.
55:25
Speaker 1: And we really appreciate him and his wisdom today. OK, yes. So, look,
55:31
Speaker 1: this comes down to the United States Department of Justice
55:33
Speaker 1: and and what they're up to. I will stand by
55:36
Speaker 1: what I said before. I'm very encouraged here by Todd Blanche.
55:39
Speaker 1: I think that these guys have a lot underway and
55:43
Speaker 1: more to come, more to come. And the big one
55:47
Speaker 1: that you and I are waiting for, I would say,
55:49
Speaker 1: is the grand conspiracy case. We're kind of keeping an
55:52
Speaker 1: eye on South Florida. And to what extent, when do
55:55
Speaker 1: we see the big prosecution of John Brennan, the former
55:58
Speaker 1: CIA director? Does James Comey get pulled into that prosecution
56:02
Speaker 1: as well? Because a grand conspiracy is not conducted by
56:05
Speaker 1: one person. You don't conspire by yourself. You know, this
56:09
Speaker 1: is not a case of going after schizophrenics. This is
56:11
Speaker 1: going after people, a team of people. And if you're
56:14
Speaker 1: going after Brennan for a grand conspiracy against the president involving, say,
56:18
Speaker 1: the Trump-Russia collusion hoax and the Steele dossier and the
56:21
Speaker 1: intelligence community assessment and lying about jamming that phony Steele
56:26
Speaker 1: dossier drafted by Hillary Clinton's campaign directly into all of that, well,
56:30
Speaker 1: that's John Brennan and James Comey. The public record on
56:32
Speaker 1: that has been super clear. So you have a grand
56:34
Speaker 1: jury that's been sending out these subpoenas, and they've sent
56:39
Speaker 1: out hundreds of them. On the list, we know Brennan, Comey,
56:44
Speaker 1: you've got Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, all these familiar
56:48
Speaker 1: names that you and I have been so deeply concerned
56:52
Speaker 1: about for their abuses of power through the years, right
56:55
Speaker 1: at the center of that case. I don't think Todd
56:57
Speaker 1: Blanche is going to tap the brakes here. I don't
57:00
Speaker 1: think at all. I think one of the other elements,
57:02
Speaker 1: if my instincts are correct, I think one of the
57:04
Speaker 1: things that he's running into is this institutional resistance to
57:10
Speaker 1: doing things that Trump wants. And what I mean by
57:13
Speaker 1: that is things that Trump voters want fundamentally. We want justice,
57:18
Speaker 1: but it's not always fashionable in the leadership class to
57:22
Speaker 1: pursue justice on behalf of what the American people want.
57:26
Speaker 1: It's a big club and we ain't in it, is
57:29
Speaker 1: usually the way we assess this, as George Carlin might say.
57:34
Speaker 1: you know, like guys like Comey, they don't get prosecuted.
57:38
Speaker 1: They don't have to be subjected to this kind of accountability.
57:41
Speaker 1: And so what's probably happening inside of the Justice Department
57:44
Speaker 1: is lower level prosecutors, career prosecutors, who have kind of
57:49
Speaker 1: envisioned themselves as, you know, little protectors of the ruling class,
57:52
Speaker 1: not that interested in holding those people accountable, worried about
57:56
Speaker 1: what this might do to their career in the future.
57:58
Speaker 1: If I go after the wrong person's friend, will that
58:01
Speaker 1: stymie my professional advancement? They've resisted oftentimes going after people
58:07
Speaker 1: like James Comey or John Brennan. They don't want to
58:10
Speaker 1: do it because they're afraid of what it's going to
58:12
Speaker 1: do to their relationships and their career advancements. You've got
58:17
Speaker 1: to break that. You've got to bring in outsiders. You've
58:19
Speaker 1: got to bring in somebody like Todd Blanch, who's been
58:21
Speaker 1: on the president's defense team on the receiving end of
58:24
Speaker 1: this kind of tyranny and doesn't want to suffer any
58:26
Speaker 1: kind of institutional fools who are looking to protect the
58:29
Speaker 1: kind of rod that would lead America fully towards destruction.
58:34
Speaker 1: So he's breaking this. That's a great sign. And he
58:38
Speaker 1: should keep doing that. My sense is I'm watching this.
58:40
Speaker 1: I think what's happening is he's grabbing these lower level
58:43
Speaker 1: prosecutors by the shirt collars and going, get off your ass.
58:47
Speaker 1: You've got the case. Bring it. Stop trying to slow
58:51
Speaker 1: walk this to death because you're afraid you're going to
58:54
Speaker 1: suffer some sort of personal blowback. If you don't act
58:56
Speaker 1: to restore justice in our country right now, we're not
58:59
Speaker 1: going to have a country for you to have a
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Speaker 1: career in. So get your ass up there and prosecute
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Speaker 1: these guys. That's the message. And I think it's effective.
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Speaker 1: I think it's going through. So we'll see more of these.
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Speaker 1: We'll see more of these. I can't imagine just watching
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Speaker 1: what we saw in the last week that this is
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Speaker 1: anywhere near the end. So we'll keep on it. As always,
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Speaker 1: As always, Zeke, my buddy, says fire soon as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's fire soon.
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Speaker 2: I agree.
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Speaker 1: Let's get a new leader. Let's get a new leader
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Speaker 1: in the Senate, somebody who can actually pass simple things
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Speaker 1: like what is it? Voter integrity. We'll keep covering it all.
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Speaker 1: I've got the big national radio show coming up today, thevinshow.com
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Speaker 1: for your local radio listings. We also do this live
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Speaker 1: on Rumble, rumble.com slash Vince. The nice thing today, on
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Speaker 1: a day where I'm talking about the Justice Department and
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Speaker 1: the FBI, the great Dan Bongino is joining me on
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Speaker 1: the radio show today. Don't miss that. Don't miss that.
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Speaker 1: Dan loves stopping by the show. We're going to have
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Speaker 1: him on the program. It's going to be wonderful. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of Dan, he's got his mighty podcast coming up today.
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Speaker 1: That's coming up at rumble.com slash Bongino, 10 a.m. Eastern time.
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Speaker 1: Very eager to hear what he has to say there.
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Speaker 1: And then Haley Carania has got her amazing show. Rumble.com
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Speaker 1: slash Haley.
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Speaker 2: Why?
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Speaker 1: With two, sorry.
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Speaker 2: Haley with two Ys. Why?
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Speaker 1: Because she is amazing. Rumble.com slash Haley. She's on at
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Speaker 1: noon Eastern time. Only on Rumble. Live on Rumble. She's great.
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Speaker 1: And you're great. Appreciate you being with us as always.
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Speaker 1: We'll have another epic show for you tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I promise.
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Speaker 1: Can't wait to do it. The Dan Bongino Show.
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Speaker 9: I think a lot of people are underestimating the Trump
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Speaker 9: effect in this midterm. You've heard it yourself. Act like
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Speaker 9: I'm on the ballot. Why is he saying that? You
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Speaker 9: think he doesn't know what he's doing? That is the
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Speaker 9: X factor. Folks, elections are a math issue.
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Speaker 2: That is it.
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Speaker 9: This is not a football game.
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Speaker 2: If you vote, we will win.
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Speaker 1: It is not complicated. The Dan Bongino Show. Follow and
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