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- 0:01Yeah, you gotta work. You gotta work. Cry sign. It's mine
- 0:13gotta show everybody is my sign. You gotta work. Cry sign. Another
- 0:18mind whom saga die this day line, don't tell you gotta work. Let
- 0:23the conversation begin. This is let's talk with your host, Carl Lee.
- 0:29Hello, ladies and gentlemen. This is Carl Lee, and this is let's
- 0:33talk with Carl Lee. And we have a Actually, I'm gonna call this
- 0:37a hollis. I'm gonna call this a follow up show. We didn't get
- 0:44we didn't get enough information or or I didn't think I got enough information for
- 0:51the public to understand the nutritional side from an actual meal prep type of thing.
- 1:00Didn't get into the weightlifting or running that type of thing. So we've
- 1:06got Andrew right here again today. You know, a back to back guest
- 1:11might be our first. It's our first back to back. It's our first
- 1:15back to back, so that's a big deal. So Andrew is a biomedical
- 1:22scientist, that's right, which which we got some of that information in the
- 1:27first show, and and for me, I wanted I need to bring that
- 1:33down, simplify that for me somewhat, just so that I can understand and
- 1:38and and our public can get enough information from you, because I really feel
- 1:44like this was a topic that I think parents are looking to try for their
- 1:49kids. They're trying to trying to get the most out of their kids' abilities.
- 1:53And I've seen probably more people with trainers training than maybe ever before,
- 2:00and I think that's the hot thing. So I want I want to I
- 2:02want us to be able to kind of get into get into that piece.
- 2:07So let me ask this this this question kind of like right out of the
- 2:13right out of the shoote If I am? If I am, Let's say
- 2:19a fifteen year old athlete, Okay, and I'm looking you know, I'm
- 2:24I'm athletic, but I but I need some weight. I need to get
- 2:30stronger. I need kind of a little bit of everything. You know.
- 2:37How do I how do I start? How do I find you? How
- 2:40do I find somebody like you? Like? How does that all start?
- 2:45For the for the parent that's out out there who's wanting to maybe find that,
- 2:50how do they get to you? How do they how do they determine
- 2:53who is the right person for their kid or for them to work with.
- 3:00There's a phrase that I like to use, check the resume, okay,
- 3:04okay, And if that angers somebody out there, is probably because they don't
- 3:07have a very good one. And what that means is is that there are
- 3:10a lot of personal trainers out there. But last time I was on I
- 3:15went into the distinction between athletic trainer and personal trainer and that they're not the
- 3:20same thing, right, And I'm going to reiterate that the personal training industry
- 3:23is a wild West show. It is completely unregulated, and there are multiple
- 3:29certifications you can get where again, to summarize, you just order some books,
- 3:35you pay a fee, they send you a book, and whenever you're
- 3:38ready, you get online, you take an online open book test and at
- 3:43your home and if you get a seven year above, you get a little
- 3:45certificate that says you're a personal trainer. And in my opinion, that does
- 3:49not make you qualified. That's that's a little bit insane, okay. And
- 3:53and yours a lot of your certifications. You've done this through educationational actual true
- 4:01educational college. I went to college for the college. Yes, yeah,
- 4:05so there is a that's a distinct difference when you go to college get that
- 4:12as a degree versus a little certificate, A little certificate that you are.
- 4:17And again we're not we're not knocking on anybody. We're just making the case
- 4:23I wanted to. I wanted to make sure we got a difference, we
- 4:25understood what the difference was, and then the relevance of it. And that's
- 4:29what I recommend for the first step for parents is to do a background check
- 4:34check check on who the person is, what is their background. If they're
- 4:38an athletic trainer, they're going to have a four year bachelor's degree in exercise
- 4:41science, sports medicine, biomedical science, something like this, where they have
- 4:46a background where they actually understand enough about how the human body works, how
- 4:50to apply exercise to the physiology to get the result that it's required. Right,
- 4:56it's not just about well I read this and now I'm going to tell
- 5:00you to do this. Regurgitation of information is not knowledge or education or understanding.
- 5:03You need to say that again. Say that again, because I think
- 5:08that's important. Regurgitation of information is not knowledge. You're just taking verbiage that
- 5:15you read somewhere that you don't understand, and you're repeating it to someone and
- 5:18passing it off as expertise, and that is not adequate. That's ridiculous.
- 5:25You need to be able to look at your client, look at your athlete,
- 5:29assess them, figure out what the circumstances situation are, assess the human
- 5:32body, how it works, what information you're getting from them, and then
- 5:34you need to make an educated decision on what needs to change to help them.
- 5:40The whole thing here is we're here to help people. If you're not
- 5:44here to help people, you're in the wrong discipline and you need someone to
- 5:47train your child or to train you that actually has an education here, and
- 5:53that's what an athletic trainer is. They actually have a four year degree in
- 5:55education and they're probably certified through ACE, which is the American Council of Exercise
- 6:00or the American College of Sports Medicine, because again those certifications are required to
- 6:06have a procerate exam at a facility where you're looked at, you're watched.
- 6:11There's one hundred and fifty multiple choice questions, and as Hollis and I talked
- 6:14about, there's a section at the end which is program designed. You have
- 6:16a paragraph that gives you a case study of a client and it says this
- 6:20is the information. Now design the program. You have to write it out
- 6:25and if you don't write out the correct type of program, then you don't
- 6:28get certified. And you have to have continual eductuing education credits to maintain your
- 6:32certification. So so if I'm if I'm a fifteen year old playing football and
- 6:46I want I want to train, I want to get a little bit bigger.
- 6:50Mom, dad wants me to get a little bit bigger. They want
- 6:54me to, you know, buff up a little bit. You know,
- 6:59there's two parts of that. I think it's it's the training aspect, the
- 7:04lifting weights, running, that piece of it. And then there's the nutritional
- 7:11side to that that that helps. If I'm meal prepping, what am I?
- 7:18What am I? What am I eating? What are the good things
- 7:21and what are the bad things? And I think some people know, like
- 7:24you know, you're probably not supposed to have a candy bar, You're probably
- 7:26not supposed to do these kind of things. But the food that some people
- 7:30might think might be good, that may not be good. Right, So
- 7:33can you give us a little bit of insight of how do we how do
- 7:38I get how do I get that fifteen year old a little bit bulkier just
- 7:42by just from the meal prep before we get into the running and lifting part
- 7:46of that as well. So let's talk about that now. I watched what
- 7:49we talked about last time, so I critiqued what we talked about, right,
- 7:53So I'm prepared today right now. You were prepared before we just I
- 7:58just wanted to make sure I was ringing. But I want to go back
- 8:03to the nutrition part a little bit, and I want to reiterate something,
- 8:05and I want to make it perfectly clear because one of the things that Hollist
- 8:09said last week is that nutrition can enhance, It has the possibility of enhancing.
- 8:15I want to clarify that the importance of nutrition cannot be overstated. It
- 8:20is not just important, it is the intellectual foundation of the entire the entire
- 8:24thing we're talking about here, how much so, if the nutrition is there,
- 8:30then it is possible for the athlete to maximize their performance and ability.
- 8:35If the nutrition is there, it is possible to maximize the athlete's ability and
- 8:41function. If nutrition is not there, it is impossible. It cannot be
- 8:48done. They can get better, they will improve, but can they maximize
- 8:54their genetic potential without the nutrition being there and the hydration and rest recovery ablutely
- 9:00not. It is absolutely biochemically impossible. Now, if the nutrition is there,
- 9:07does that mean that they will reach their genetic potential? No, because
- 9:11the training has to be there, just the training, the correct training,
- 9:15the specific the goal specific training, as you've mentioned, goal specific sport specific
- 9:20training, and their potential their potential, not their individual potential. They're going
- 9:28to be the top one. No, No, what's there because the second
- 9:33fundamental principle, the first one's nutrition, the second one was genetics. Okay,
- 9:37yeah you can you can. You can't outtrain a bad diet, and
- 9:41you can't outrain your genetics. Yeah. Those are the two most fundamental things
- 9:46are going to dictate how far you can go in sport is nutrition and your
- 9:50genetics period in the story. Okay, but let me I want to ask
- 9:54coach a question because you you've reiterated on the show several times kind of your
- 10:00regiment when you were in high school in middle school and how you propelled yourself
- 10:03to the NFL, and you've talked about your training. What was your diet
- 10:09like at that time or were you even considering that I didn't. I didn't
- 10:11consider much in the diet because one I was I don't know if I want
- 10:18to say that I was fortunate. I needed to always add weight. Yeah,
- 10:22you know, it was important for me was getting in shape, being
- 10:31at the best shape I could possibly be in, and pick up weight.
- 10:35That was always a conflict. So I mean, were you just eating any
- 10:39and everything, you know? And I was. I was a huge on
- 10:43peanut butter. I was huge on peanut butter sandwiches. You know. I
- 10:48would eat. I would eat basically anything, you know, anything that I
- 10:54could get to help me pick up weight. Okay, so there was some
- 10:58thought there. There was thought to get heavier, and then the offset of
- 11:03that was the running. You would just lose it. Yeah, I mean
- 11:07I was burning it constantly. I mean I was you know, there was
- 11:11times when I you know, I could be out, I could run in
- 11:15the morning and ride my bike in the evening. You know. I was
- 11:18constantly focused on the conditioning piece of it. Where the meals, the meal
- 11:26side of it didn't play a big role for me because I wasn't trying to
- 11:31lose anything. I was just trying to pick it up. Okay, what
- 11:35is that when when I say that, how does that sound? What does
- 11:39that? What do you think when you hear that? Unfortunate? Because if
- 11:43you were able to do what you were able to do winging it. Imagine
- 11:48what you could have done if you had nailed it. And what does that
- 11:52mean? Nutrition? One hundred percent? We are what we eat, Okay,
- 11:58our biochemistry, what our biochemistry is able to do, what our genetics
- 12:03are able to do, is dependent on what materials are available. Period.
- 12:07That's just the way it works. Now. I don't want to get completely
- 12:11off the range here again, right, So I'm going to go and try
- 12:16to get into what you asked a minute ago. Okay, With regards to
- 12:18okay, with the parents out there, how do we take all of the
- 12:22knowledge that out dropped last week and what we've talked about so far today and
- 12:26actually apply that? Okay? Application is important. Knowledge is useless without application,
- 12:33right, So let's talk about that. So there needs to be two
- 12:35foundational approaches here to your child's nutrition. With regards to athletics, there's foundational
- 12:41situation, right, So let's talk about think of foundational as your long term
- 12:46approach and your situational as your short term approach. Right, So what does
- 12:52that mean? So? Long term, you need three basic disciplines that you
- 12:56need to focus on for your child. You need hydration, You need structure
- 13:01intake structure, and you need proper food selection. Those three things have to
- 13:05be in place. If those three things are in place, they need to
- 13:07be in place for the basic development and growth of your child outside of athletics.
- 13:13Okay, without regards to the game, without regards to the practice.
- 13:18You need to intake. You need to take into consideration the daily exercise and
- 13:22things, right, but for your child's basic growth and development, these things
- 13:26have to be there, even if you're not an athlete. If you want
- 13:30to be healthy, this has to be in there. And hydration. When
- 13:33you start talking about hydration, that's not drinking just anything water, period.
- 13:37That's water. Yes, that's water. That's something I do now, Like
- 13:41I'm huge into water. Now that's basically almost all I drink, and I
- 13:48drink it like pretty much all day. Would that be water? And fruits
- 13:52because fruits they provide a level of hydration to correct I mean I'm not suit
- 13:56Well, it depends because when we're talking about hydration, it is a balance
- 13:58of water intake and electrolyte intake because we have something called osmotic pressure osmotic balance.
- 14:05It's a balance between water and sodium in our body, which is why
- 14:09if we're stranded out on the ocean, we can't drink ocean water and hydrate
- 14:11because the concentration of salt is so high we actually dehydrate ourselves breaking salt water.
- 14:16Right, So fruits not necessarily, we can't count that as hydration because
- 14:20there's probably sodium and other things in there that that may offset the hydration.
- 14:24I mean, there are fruits that will help hydration, But I don't want
- 14:28to put misinformation out there and people think that it's a blanket statement, gotcha,
- 14:33Okay, Yeah, But with the guards hydration, that's one thing that
- 14:35I did want to talk about today because it's it's underrated with the dards and
- 14:37the importance of it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna lay some lay some stuff
- 14:43down here so people understand how vital is hydration. If you were in athletics
- 14:48and you're playing a game or you're doing practice, Okay, depending on the
- 14:52intensity of the of the exercise or the practice of the gang, and depending
- 14:56on the ambient tensure the ambient temperature, and athlete can lose between two to
- 15:01three courts of fluids per hour. I've been there per hour and you're also
- 15:05going to be losing electrolytes, namely sodium. Yeah, so what does that
- 15:09do? So let's talk about what that effect can have on the athlete.
- 15:13So let's talk about performance. Okay, how will affect performance if we're dehydrated?
- 15:20This is what it's going to do. Our joints are cushioned by water.
- 15:24Not only that, there is something called synovial fluid that our body creates
- 15:28and releases into our joints. That is like the lubrication system of our joints.
- 15:33So if we're the ten man okay, and we're in the where's a
- 15:35div oz? Synovial fluid is what's going to be in the can that we
- 15:39need Dorothy to come and pop onto our joints. It's synovial fluid and the
- 15:43number one component of synovial fluid water. So how will that affect performance?
- 15:48If you're dehydrated, we don't have enough water to properly cushion our joints,
- 15:52and we can't properly release synovial fluid. So what does that do. That's
- 15:56going to decrease our speed, and it's going to decrease our flexibility, and
- 16:00that's going to have a huge compromising effect on your performance during the game or
- 16:06the practice. That's your performance. Now, what about your endurance? If
- 16:08you're dehydrated? Okay, muscles are seventy five percent water, So if you're
- 16:14dehydrated, then the muscle's going to be dehydrated. If your muscle tissue is
- 16:18dehydrated, the contract dialability of the muscle decreases. That means they can't contract
- 16:23as efficiently number one, number two and hold on. And when you say
- 16:26contract, what just in layman tern what does that mean? Just create force
- 16:30create okay? Gotcha? Okay? Got or the speed at which they can
- 16:34create Okay? That being said, what about endurance within the muscle? Okay?
- 16:41Where do we get energy from in the muscle? A dentisseine triphosphate ATP,
- 16:45right, and a dentisceine triphosphate. When we run out of ATP,
- 16:48the muscle goes into a failure where it no longer can produce force at that
- 16:52frequency or that intensity. Right now, there's something called the crib cycle that
- 16:56replenishes ATP. And the creb cycle requires glucose, right, and where does
- 17:03it get glucose? Glycogen stores within the muscle cells? Okay, muscle cells
- 17:07store sugar. Why for the creb cycle to replenish atp so the muscles can
- 17:11keep going during the game, during the workout. Is that clear? Yeah?
- 17:17That so that's why you have the endurance athletes. They'll they'll eat the
- 17:19pasta, they'll eat the pancakes. That's I'm going to talk about them when
- 17:23we go into how to feed the athlete properly prepare them for the game,
- 17:26which we're going to go into. Okay, that being said, if you're
- 17:30dehydrated, your glycogen formation ability is compromised because for every gram of glucose it
- 17:37has to chemically bond to two point seven grams of water. So if you're
- 17:41dehydrated, your ability to store sugar and your muscle cells is compromised. So
- 17:45your endurance is going to go down. Now, So that's two factors that
- 17:48that that hydration will affect, well, dehydration will affect. A third one
- 17:52that nobody considers is your oxygen exchange rate. Our lungs have to be moist.
- 17:57If our lungs are not moist, we decrease the ability to add oxygen
- 18:02to the hemoglobin and release carbon dioxide into the air. When we breathe out
- 18:06and we can see our breath. It's water vapor. Right. We have
- 18:10to have moist lungs for proper oxygen exchange, which is very important during a
- 18:15game where a workout because carbon dioxide build up as a result of anaerobmic metabolism
- 18:18will compromise performance. So breathing is the third thing and the fourth thing.
- 18:25Muscles are seventy five percent water. Your brain is eighty percent water. If
- 18:29we're dehydrated, your cognitive ability also decreases your ability to comp your bility to
- 18:33concentrate and make split second decisions like a quarterback or wide receiver goes down.
- 18:38So that's why those are four fundamental things that your body has to have on
- 18:42point to maximize your performance in the game, and just a two percent dehydration
- 18:48will compromise all four of them. Because that and that's why I can remember
- 18:52those hot summer days in August or September and you would deflem because if you
- 18:59don't have enough hydrationing get the dry cough and the film of smming up that
- 19:03actually makes that connects absolutely. And I'm for you, like you guys have
- 19:08experienced everything that I don't know what it was right at all because and them
- 19:15crazy coaches, not not you, but like the old remember they wouldn't you.
- 19:19You can't drink no water, remember that? Yes, how crazy I
- 19:23was through that and and did that even when I was at State because I
- 19:30was so used to earning water. Yeah, you know, you gotta earn.
- 19:36You were basically kind of had to earn a reason for a break.
- 19:40And that would hints like you just said, like far as probably the muscle
- 19:44spasms, the cramps, the the the the cognitive issue. So somebody has
- 19:49like a bang anti rhythm on the field, they may have just simply not
- 19:53been hydrated. Right, And when you get dehydrated, you when you're losing
- 19:57that two to three ounces of fluid per hour or quartz quartz not outis excuse
- 20:03me, You're also losing electrolytes, primarily sodium. Right, What is sodium
- 20:07NaCl? Right? Sodium chloride? Okay, Now NA has a positive charge,
- 20:12cl has a negative charge. How do we contract muscles? Right,
- 20:17it's the nervous system, our nervous system, it's our neuromuscular system. Our
- 20:22muscles contract due to an electrical signal that is sent through the nervous system.
- 20:26The nervous system is basically a massive electrical grid, okay, and the electrolytes
- 20:30are responsible for that electrical charge. We have an unequal balance of positive negative
- 20:34charges in a specific area the body that can create a cramp, which is
- 20:38like a misfire. And that's what a cramp is. So this is so
- 20:41well known that the three main components that need to be included during a game
- 20:48to maintain performance is water, hydration, glycogen replenishment, sugar, and electrolyte
- 20:55replenishment, which electrolytes. Okay, this was so well understood so many years
- 20:59ago. This I just down at Florida University created a drink to assist the
- 21:03gators, the Florida Gators, and they called it there you go, got
- 21:08you. That's I mean, that's and and and I don't really remember when
- 21:15Gatorade actually started taking place, but I can always almost make the case that
- 21:21it wasn't there, or it wasn't there when I was working out, or
- 21:26I had no access to it. Well, they they fed my dad's salt
- 21:30tablets when he was yes, yes, and you know they had no idea.
- 21:33They were further compromising against hydration level. Yes, you used to get
- 21:37the salt you used to get the salt peels. No water, just salt,
- 21:41and they used and potassium. They would give you potassium also, you
- 21:47know, and that was supposedly for your cramps. So you had to earn
- 21:49your water. Yes, yes, so they're giving you this stuff without without
- 21:53the water you know where Actually what you're saying, and the way this works
- 22:00is the water is the critical piece and let's bring it home. So for
- 22:04the parents is watching, You got the fifteen year old kid, Like,
- 22:07how much water should they be in? Take it? Should they get a
- 22:11gold So as you wake up before we go to bed, how does that
- 22:14work? You should drink? Start drinking as soon as you get out of
- 22:15bed, Like, there should be a bottle of water ready to go soon
- 22:17as you get out of bed. Now, so here's a rule for you
- 22:19guys. This is going to help the parents out. Okay, how much
- 22:22water does your kid need if they don't do athletics. Just remember the baseline,
- 22:29the long term, the foundational approach here that I spoke about a second
- 22:32ago. Take the child's body weight. There's just a rule of thumb that
- 22:34will help them out. Help parents out. Take the child's body weight.
- 22:37Let's say they weigh one hundred and fifty pounds, divide it by two,
- 22:41and that's how many ounces they need every day to say hydrated. That does
- 22:45not include the game. It does not include practice. Correct, that's just
- 22:49on a day they don't do anything outside of their normal play athletics. That's
- 22:53the child doesn't even play athletics, gotcha. And even that even that kid
- 23:00has, even though he's not participating in a sport, could also be burning.
- 23:06Yeah. Yeah, he goes out and plays tag. Yeah, I
- 23:10mean, you know, anything any type of activity. And assuming that they
- 23:14don't eat, you know, assuming that they don't eat come, you know,
- 23:18they don't eat breakfast or they just grab grab something and go. Now
- 23:26they're already in a deficit already. Correct, Yes, that's wild. And
- 23:33we stayed out of the deficits when I was the kids. We used to
- 23:34drink from random fire, remember, I don't know, that's pretty much where
- 23:41you would get your walk. Yeah, And it's it's funny because like I
- 23:47like I drink I drink water like almost all day. Now you feel different,
- 23:52don't you? I do? And and I work out, like I
- 23:57go home and I've gotten myself now into this like late workout program. I'm
- 24:03like running. Probably I can get on the treadmill anywhere between nine to ten
- 24:08o'clock and you know, I'll do my thirty minute run and I'm I'm I'm
- 24:17good. And it's even funny because on the days that I don't drink a
- 24:22lot of water, I do feel like I am struggling a little bit more.
- 24:26You're compromised, then I would be if I've spent most of the day
- 24:30with my water bottle. Yea. And again, I'm not saying that you
- 24:33won't be able to play right, I understand, but you won't be able
- 24:37to play at your top potential. And that's and just for anybody listen,
- 24:42that's what you're saying. You the comments you're making is saying if you want
- 24:48to be at your maximum potential, if you want to reach that, then
- 24:52this is the thing. And your minds may only be it may not be
- 24:55what're you talking about your where yours is? It may be just where theirs
- 25:00is and you don't even know that yet. If you if you've been compromised,
- 25:07you may never reach that point because you you haven't put yourself in the
- 25:12best position and to even perform that. So and let me and I'm gonna
- 25:18switch gears here just a little bit. So we've talked about like the nutrition
- 25:22last last show, we talked about the hydration. Now, so what about
- 25:26like the supplements? So what about like the creatine amino as is the protein
- 25:30powder? Because there's been a lot of controversy on those sort of products and
- 25:34like are they good? Are they bad? When should you take them?
- 25:38Those type of things. Well, let's talk about that, Okay. I
- 25:41think that there should be a differentiation between nutritional supplements and then supplements. What
- 25:48are what's the difference? Nutritional supplements are what they say they are nutrition,
- 25:55right, So protein powder that shouldn't really be looked upon as a supplement.
- 25:59It's food. It is a protein source. It comes from milk. Okay,
- 26:03so it's not like a stimulant like a pre workout or a fat burner
- 26:07or any of that kind of stuff. I don't recommend any of that stuff,
- 26:10anything that's unnatural, like herbs and all this wild stuff. Okay,
- 26:14hocus pocus, Okay. We need to stick with the foundational building blocks and
- 26:19requirements for the biochemical reactions that we need. As I touched on last week,
- 26:22So amino acids, what are those Those are the building blocks of protein.
- 26:26Yeah, well there's three, the branch chain amino acids for assys,
- 26:30there's a branch chain amino acids uptlements. Those are the three most abundant amino
- 26:33acids required for muscle growth. So if you're trying to grow your muscles,
- 26:36if you supplement with branch shain aminu acids, that's just additional amino acids that
- 26:40you could normally get from protein. But your muscles need a little bit more
- 26:42of those three to be able to increase muscular hypertrophy. So it's going to
- 26:48benefit you to supplement with those essential amino acids. Good branch shain amino acids,
- 26:53good glutamines, good protein powder. Good creatine is the most wells studied
- 27:00supplement. I heard braink function as well. Correct. Yeah, And basically
- 27:04you have different ways to supplement and power anaerobic glycolysis, which is what powers
- 27:11muscular contraction. One of them is the crab cycles I talked about a second
- 27:15ago that I mentioned, and then they are other ones the creating phosphate system
- 27:18and all creating basically is is if you have additional creatine available, then theoretically
- 27:22you're going to be able to replenish atp faster at a more efficient rate when
- 27:26you're training or when you're in the game. If you're taking creating, how
- 27:32how frequent do you How frequent should you take it daily? One today?
- 27:40When you first start out, you should probably take it more than once a
- 27:42day, about five grams. I usually have my athletes or clients start out
- 27:45with five grams two to three times a day for about ten days, and
- 27:49then you can drop down to five grams a day to maintain your levels.
- 27:52All right, well, real quick, we're going to take a quick break
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- 28:32Now back to the conversation. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, we're just coming
- 28:36back after break. I hope that you can't a host of the information give
- 28:42it out that Andrew provided for us in the in the in the first half
- 28:48of the show. It was educational for me for sure. And and and
- 28:56again, yeah, i'd like to I'd like to think, you know that
- 29:00I had some understanding of kind of what was going on for me, but
- 29:08I could see too now in hindsight, even looking back and even training now,
- 29:15seeing that I'm missing some pieces and some reality and some things that I
- 29:19could, you know, add to to my diet that could be beneficial for
- 29:26me. Let's get to the fus stuff now. Yeah. Yeah, so
- 29:33now we're talking about I want to I want to jump into the actual training
- 29:40piece, the actual physical training, whether in both categories, from from the
- 29:48running to the lifting to this maybe even to the stretching. Tell us a
- 29:53little bit about that role that you play with and this is probably going to
- 30:02be I want to start this as sports specific. And let's say football.
- 30:08Okay, so if if, if, if you've got a football player and
- 30:15he says, look, I need to get stronger. I need to get
- 30:18this, I need to I want this. I want I want a body
- 30:21like this. I want to be cut up like this. What is your
- 30:26process when you when you put your eyes on him and you go from there?
- 30:32Tell it. Tell us a little bit about where that process starts and
- 30:37where it gets to how do you get to the end? Okay, well,
- 30:40the first first thing we need to talk about is what what are they
- 30:41actually hiring me for? Right? What do you want to do? You
- 30:45want to increase your speed agility? Do you want to you want to I
- 30:48want to do both because I want to be this really really good football player.
- 30:52I need to be a little bit stronger. I need to be a
- 30:53little bit quicker. I just need I just I need help. Right.
- 30:59Well, if that the hardest, I want to make the hardest the hard
- 31:02right. So to touch touch. Based on what you said earlier about what
- 31:06what should a parent look for when hiring someone, Almost all coaches and trainers
- 31:11out there have some type of specialization. So for me, right like,
- 31:15if someone came to me and said I want to do speed agility, I'm
- 31:18going to refer them to someone else. Okay, that is their prim focus.
- 31:22Okay, it's not that I can't help with that, It's just that
- 31:25moral and ethically that is not my specialty. So there's a guy named Trdus
- 31:27in this area probably though, yeah, right, he does a train wreck
- 31:30cranting. I think he's got a really good system going down over there.
- 31:33So if I had a kid that wanted to do speed jility, I'd probably
- 31:36send him to tr Right. If I had someone that wanted to improve their
- 31:38golf swing as I spoke about last week, or improve their their swing with
- 31:42the bat, then I probably sent them to Randy Gilspie, another one of
- 31:45my coworkers that have a lot of respect for in the business. But with
- 31:48reguards to changing their body and making it more efficient, with regards to neurotiming,
- 31:52with regards to muscle composition and these things, that is my specialty,
- 31:57changing the body. So that what he does with tr is going to be
- 32:01way better, way more efficient. What he does with Randy is going to
- 32:05be way more efficient. That's my specialty. Does that make sense, yes?
- 32:08Yeah. And so there's two types of training that when you talk about
- 32:13now, I'm gonna talk about both of them, so you should separate them
- 32:15out speed agility training and sports specific training. When we're talking about sports specific
- 32:20training, we're talking about what skill development? Right? Uh, there's a
- 32:23different skill set required to be a football player than there is to be a
- 32:27basketball player. So do not hire a basketball player former basketball player to train
- 32:32your football player. Can we not do that? Ye? I mean,
- 32:37can we at least agree that that's madness? So do not train. Don't
- 32:42think about it. You wouldn't think about it right until you say it,
- 32:46right, But once you say it, I totally get it right. And
- 32:51don't hire a powerlifter to train you to be a bodybuilder. And don't train
- 32:55a long distance runner. Don't hire a long distance runner to teach you how
- 32:59to be Olympic sprinter. Yeah, there is a specialization level that you should
- 33:04look for when you're hiring someone. What do you actually do and what are
- 33:08your qualifications for doing it? And how long have you been doing it?
- 33:12And what are the success stories or lack thereof that you have or don't have.
- 33:16And that's to answer that question that you asked earlier. But to get
- 33:21back to it, you need to separate those two the two types of training
- 33:24out the sports specific training which is skilled development and speed agility. Why because
- 33:30when we're training that way, we're not training the muscular system I want to
- 33:35make this clear. We're training the nervous system. What we're talking about was
- 33:39skill development and sports specific training with regards to the skills required and speed agility
- 33:45training. We're trying to get the nervous system more efficient. So let's talk
- 33:50about analogy of riding a bike. Everybody in this room rode a bike when
- 33:52they're a kid. Right, what happened the first time you got on a
- 33:55bike? How'd that go? Were you amazing at it? Carley? Knock
- 34:00it out of the park, but you're a genetic freaking the room took I
- 34:04took some spiels. Okay, we all did it. So let's talk about
- 34:07what's going on there. Okay, when you get on the bike the first
- 34:10time, Okay, your brain has different sections that have different different jobs.
- 34:15So let's say you have your cerebral cortex, that's the CPU. I'm going
- 34:19to use a computer analogy so everybody can follow along. You have the CPU,
- 34:22the cerebral cortex, and this job is to figure things out. And
- 34:27when you're on the bike the first time, the only thing you're thinking about
- 34:30is how to ride this bike and not fall down? How do you get
- 34:32this bike down the street and not fall off of it, and you're giving
- 34:37every single cognitive aspect you possess to that skill, and you're terrible. You're
- 34:43atrocious. It's embarrassing. Okay, Now two years down the road, you
- 34:47get on the bike and you just kick it right on down the street.
- 34:51How much cognitive involvement is taking place there? Zero? Yeah? And that
- 34:55is the goal in athletics, the nervousness the goal. It's called automaticity.
- 35:01Automaticity is the term. What does that mean When we're trying to create When
- 35:07we're trying to learn a new skill like riding a bike, throwing a football,
- 35:09shooting of basketball, what we're trying to do is create something called a
- 35:14motor ingram in neuroscience. What it is is, it's basically a computer program
- 35:17that tells the brain and the spinal cord what motor units and what muscle groups
- 35:22to recruit at what frequency, what intensity, and in what order to perform
- 35:25the skill. How to ride the bike. The brain has to figure out
- 35:29how to ride the bike. The CPU has to figure out how to ride
- 35:32the bike. Now, once the CPU figures out how to ride the bike,
- 35:37it's figured out. It's stored on the hard drive. Okay, Okay,
- 35:40you don't need to think about it anymore. That's called that's called the
- 35:45autonomic nervous system automaticity. We want to get the quarterback to be able to
- 35:52throw the football through the tire without having to think about it cognitively at all.
- 35:58Because if we can do that, then that frees the CPU up to
- 36:00think about reading the defense, checking check checking the routes for the wide receivers
- 36:07actually play the game. Yeah, the skills have to be developed to a
- 36:09point of automaticity so that it's automatic and the autonomic nervous system, and that
- 36:15takes three phases. Right. There's the cognitive phase, which is where you're
- 36:19thinking about it and you're really focused on it. And in that part,
- 36:22uh, the neurons in the brain your formula what's called a neural pathway,
- 36:25and that that is a chemical pathway. I'm not going to get too deep
- 36:29into this, okay, but the second part is association phase, where you're
- 36:31starting to form a structural neural pathway. And then the third phase is the
- 36:36autonomous autonomic part where you have formed the motor eningram and it's a permanent structural
- 36:43pathway because if you go five years and you don't ride your bike when you
- 36:47get back on it, do you have to learn how to do it again?
- 36:51Well, your body just knows how to know, Okay, so let
- 36:53me okay, So okay, so this this, this takes me, This
- 37:00jumbles up my brain for a second. When I when I was when I
- 37:06was in Minnesota and and Pete Carroll was there. Yes, one of the
- 37:08things that he made us do was to there was like a step punch,
- 37:14a step punch like he would make us do that like a million times to
- 37:20a point where your back, like your back would be killing you. And
- 37:27and and exactly what he was doing was to make this become such a habit
- 37:34that no matter what the guy did, no matter what shake he would give
- 37:37you, you would do that thing first before anything. That's that's exactly you
- 37:43do it automatically. And it's amazing to me because I because when you were
- 37:47saying that that that that was that came so clear to my head of and
- 37:52the analogy of the quarterback was like perfect, because I was like, oh,
- 37:58so that's what how work was. And and the crazy thing is is,
- 38:06and I don't know if there's an answer to this, is why would
- 38:10some person be better at it than enough than the other person who's doing the
- 38:16same drill the same reason. Some people can go to medical school and some
- 38:20people can't. Okay, some people CPUs are way higher processors than other people.
- 38:25Okay. Yeah, and maybe they have a large hard drive as well.
- 38:30Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, So let me ask you this
- 38:34specific to account of what you do, and what I've seen you do is
- 38:37a lot of bodybuilders training that's a misconception. Well, I'm just saying what
- 38:40i've seen, yes, And what I've seen is that I've seen you start
- 38:45with somebody who's mush essentially that's not hating you know, I'm just saying i've
- 38:52seen him do this and the pictures. Yeah, I've said this, I've
- 38:55seen it. I've seen you start with somebody who just was the average looking
- 38:59Joe or Joe spa and just turn him into like a competitive bodybuilder. Well,
- 39:07and that's well, or at least their version of it, or I'm
- 39:09just saying their version of Well, that's my specialty, and I think that
- 39:12what the reason is my approach to it, because when someone comes in and
- 39:15sits down, when we do like I said, we do the consult first.
- 39:19What drives me crazy is the way that other coaches, other trainers treat
- 39:22them, especially doctors and other personal trainers. If you've got a guy that
- 39:27needs to lose one hundred pounds, he comes into the gym, he's intimidated
- 39:30by the gym. The problem is that everybody's treating him like a fat dude
- 39:34needs to lose weight, and they've convinced him of that. And that angers
- 39:38me because who said that's who you are? Right in your head? Maybe
- 39:43you're an athlete. How do you know you're not an athlete. You've never
- 39:45been given a chance to that for that type of training. You've never had
- 39:50someone put that much attention into your nutrition, right, And that's not fair.
- 39:54It's not fair for me to treat a quarterback this way and treat someone
- 39:59with type two di some other way. Right, not to say that there's
- 40:01not subtle variations, need to be conscientious of the medical history, but to
- 40:07not put as much effort into this person and to write them off as just
- 40:09some out of shape, obese person that just needs to lose a few pounds,
- 40:14that's not fair. It drives me crazy. It's one of the reasons
- 40:16why I do this for a living, because I think everybody has a right
- 40:19to this knowledge. Everybody has a right to someone to believe in them,
- 40:22to say, look, how come you can't go rock climbing in two years?
- 40:25Why why not? I can get you there. The problem is everybody's
- 40:30conspensed to you that you'll never be able to do that, and that's ridiculous.
- 40:32And one of the methodologies I've seen on your Instagram and your social media
- 40:38is that far as just the lifting part of it, you'll have them explode
- 40:44the movement, explode, movie, then contract very slowly correct back, Like,
- 40:47what's what's the science behind that? Where there are two phases, Well,
- 40:52I take it further and say, there's four phases of every repetition within
- 40:55a set. There is the concentric the eccentric of the main two. I
- 41:00don't like those terms because they sound the same even though they're opposite, So
- 41:02I like to use positive and negative. So positive is the contraction. Negative
- 41:07is the return to the starting position. And then the other two phases that
- 41:09I've added on there personally is the transitions between the two phases. There's two
- 41:15transitions at each end those four phases. There's the positive, the negative,
- 41:19and the two transitions. Studies have shown unequivocally that the negative is the most
- 41:24important part of the repetition. So that's like what I'm on the bench just
- 41:28for somebody. I'm on to bitch, I lift the bench up, then
- 41:30I'm bringing it back down to starting point. That's the negative. That's the
- 41:32negative, the starting It creates more micro trauma, stimulates more muscle growth,
- 41:37and therefore more adaptation than the positive. It creates so much more impact with
- 41:43regards to adaptation that I have pushed it even further in my mind the way
- 41:46that I teach it to my clients and athletes that I want you to think
- 41:50about the positive as the least important. The contraction is the least important.
- 41:53The only purpose of the contraction is to reset so you can do another negative.
- 41:58That's how important that they and that's why I do that, because you
- 42:01will accelerate the muscular gains at a dramatic rate. And so get back to
- 42:07what we're talking about a second ago. The differentiation between the two types of
- 42:09training. Their training with skill development is nervous system. We're training the nervous
- 42:15system like you talked about with Pet Carrol. Okay, but then there's also
- 42:19the actual muscles, the skeletal muscle. Right, we want to increase the
- 42:22size of the muscle or the ability to create force. That's the whole reason
- 42:28we train the muscles. And there are three fiber types. There's type one,
- 42:31there's type two A and type two X. Now, the type one
- 42:36fiber is is what's called aerobic or endurance fiber, right, and it's used
- 42:40for specific things, right. And then there's the type two A, which
- 42:44is used for specific things which creates more force. There's the type two X.
- 42:47Type two X is the fiber that has the higher propensity for muscle growth,
- 42:51the higher propensity for creating force and speed. Right, slow twitch versus
- 42:55fast twitch. Fast Twitch has two fibers, slow twitch has one. Now,
- 43:00so depending on what someone's goal is, you can change the ratio of
- 43:05those fiber types to change their level of performance or composition of their anatomy.
- 43:12Bigger biceps, bigger triceps, bigger deltoids or bosteps that have more endurance,
- 43:16bosteps that create more force. The differentiation between the two fiber types can be
- 43:22clearly seen when you compare a long distance runner to a sprinter. What are
- 43:24their bodies looking like? That's completely different. So when you have a one
- 43:29hundred meters sprinter, their muscles are predominantly Type two fibers. They have trained
- 43:34themselves that way. Let me ask this question because to that point, that
- 43:38sprinter, that one hundred or two hundred yard sprinter, yes, that that
- 43:45body type has changed drastically in the last twenty years or so, because that
- 43:52guy used to be thin. He could be cut, but he wasn't thick,
- 44:00like, he wasn't like his chest wasn't like the size of my entire
- 44:04body. But now yeah, they faster and they're they're way I'll use the
- 44:13term bulky. Then they used to be where is and and and and now
- 44:19they have that fat and they are blessed with that flat fast twitch muscle.
- 44:24Like how does that like, how does that all work? Because old school,
- 44:31old school was if you were if you were that guy, that thick
- 44:36guy, you're the one hundred yard one hundred meter, you're you got no
- 44:39shot, You ain't got a fast twitch muscle in you. And now you
- 44:45see that guy with with is there growth in the fast twitch? Like can
- 44:52you grow a fast twitch? Because so that's okay. So predominantly it used
- 44:55to be thought that whatever ratio you have of type one of type two.
- 45:00I prefer to use those to say to slow twitch or fast twitch slow and
- 45:02flast twitchs confused people type one to type two. Right, it used to
- 45:07be predominantly thought that whatever ratio in each like, and the ratios could be
- 45:13different. You might be like like sixty forty in your bosseps and like fifty
- 45:15fifty in your quads, So it's different, but you know it's different sections
- 45:19of the body have different ratios. Right. It would used to be predominantly
- 45:22thought and believe that whatever you're born with is what you've got. But now
- 45:24it's understood now over the past ten years that you can train specific muscles and
- 45:30specific ways to get type one fibers to convert over to type two fibers.
- 45:35Hold over, Oh yeah, it's beautiful. So so you're telling me you
- 45:40can train yourself or kid can train himself to get go fast quick twitch muscles.
- 45:47Correct, you can. Wow, I didn't. I would never know
- 45:52that. See, That's why I asked the question, because like again,
- 45:55goal specific, fiber specific. There's fiber specific training as well. If you
- 46:01understand mile science, which is the science of because that's I mean, because
- 46:05when you're training on that level. That's actually that that could propel you dramatically
- 46:10as opposed to, like you said, just getting this shape and just you
- 46:14know, making sure I'm just strong and everything like that. Specific I gotta
- 46:19I can see this specific kid in the gym at the reck who plays football,
- 46:23plays basketball. He's he's an aggressive kid. Yeah, he basketball.
- 46:32He's he's guaranteed almost to foul out like almost every game, like he And
- 46:37you need that guy that's attitude. One of the questions, you know is
- 46:45in hearing you talk about you know, the fast twitch is not something that
- 46:52you're just necessarily quote born with, but you can train it. I couldn't
- 46:57imagine him being trained in a fast twitch to create fast twitch muscles, because
- 47:05he would be like if he if he got into a training process, he's
- 47:09probably way too young right now, but if he was there in fourteen,
- 47:15fifteen, sixteen or whatever aide that you would might do that, he would
- 47:19be able to do that. I can't even imagine. Well, let's talk
- 47:22about that. I didn't realize you could train that way. Well I didn't
- 47:25either, right, Well, most people no, right, So, but
- 47:29and again it comes back to who do you hire. You hire someone that
- 47:31understands the depth of which the goals specific that you have for your child or
- 47:37yourself. Now with regards to that, that's another thing you need to understand
- 47:45that the neurological process that I explained earlier with regards to throwing a football,
- 47:50it also applies to doing the Barbelle curw. That's something I tried to touch
- 47:52on last time that we didn't get into. If you consistent, this is
- 47:57something I want you both to remember, and everybody out there listening please pay
- 48:00attention of this. Everybody talks about consistency, consistency, consistency for success,
- 48:05but if you consistently do something wrong, consistently becomes a negative factory. And
- 48:13you can take someone into the gym and if they're doing everything wrong right,
- 48:16And what do I mean by wrong? I mean you're a football player,
- 48:21but you go to the gym and all you do is free throws. What
- 48:23are you doing? Bro? Okay? If you go to take resistance training
- 48:28and you're trying to create muscular I purchase you you're trying to stimulate type two
- 48:32X fiber recruitment and increases in size to create more force at a faster speed.
- 48:37But you're doing resistance training in a way that targets the type one fibers.
- 48:42What are you doing, bro, You're a basketball player doing football training,
- 48:47or you're a football player kicking soccer ball? Why are you doing that?
- 48:51It drives me crazy. And I see people in there all the time.
- 48:53They say I'm a bodybuilder, but they're training like powerlifters. It's like,
- 48:57no, you're not, like you have no Like again, people don't
- 49:00know how wrong they are when it comes to proper training and such. And
- 49:07what kills me is like, you know, I would go to the gym
- 49:13and and you know someone had already set up a workout plan, you know,
- 49:16whether it be a trainer from the team or whatever. This is what
- 49:20we're doing for the off season training. And and now like you see like
- 49:27you see people going into the weight room and it's like like there is no
- 49:30plan. It's like it's a wild like I'm just gonna. I'm going in
- 49:34and I'm just it's the most I'm gonna. It's the most random thing that
- 49:38there is, and it's it literally drives me nuts and it can't be you
- 49:45know, And I see I see people at the reck like daily, you
- 49:49know, in their daily and but I don't. I'm not seeing any change.
- 49:52I don't know. Somebody might have lost some weight, you know,
- 49:55but like I'm not really seeing. Well, we'll talk about stinctual training.
- 50:00You've heard this phrase? No, oh, you never heard it? Okay,
- 50:05Well, okay, people say, well, I'm gonna what I feel
- 50:07like doing today, We'll go in the gym. That sounds like what I
- 50:10do. Well, that's called an instinctual approach to Yeah, well, I'm
- 50:15gonna go what exercises am I going to do today? I guess I'll do
- 50:19some chests and boss steps. So I'll do these exercises. Then the next
- 50:22week you when you do completely something completely different. It's just completely random,
- 50:27right, it's instinctual whatever you feel like doing it that day. And one
- 50:30of my favorite quotes is by a guy named Mike Menser, and he said,
- 50:32if we trained instinctually and we actually use the instinctual impulse and apply it
- 50:37to resistance training, we're more likely to defecate on a weight than ok.
- 50:43It's it's not unequivocally correct to use the limbic system, which is the instinctual
- 50:47part of the brain the fight or flight and apply that type of methodology towards
- 50:52something that has to be scientifically systematic. So like I okay, like like
- 51:01like I'll go home. I'll go home this evening, and you know,
- 51:06my goal is to run three miles in thirty minutes, correct, and and
- 51:16I'm like right there, right there at it. And I've just been kind
- 51:21of slowly building myself up to that. Okay. But the problem that I
- 51:30have is is like I don't really like I don't really drink anything pretty much
- 51:36because it's late, so I shower pretty much, go to bed. Now
- 51:39I'm now in the morning, I'm up and I'm I'm I'm with my water
- 51:45all day. So what's your thought process to that? Explain it to me.
- 51:47Well, One, I don't want to get up and go to the
- 51:49bathroom at the middle of the night, so that's but I don't know,
- 51:54like whatever's gotten me. I used to love to worry up first thing in
- 52:00the morning. Yeah, and for whatever reason, now like late evening makes
- 52:05me like, you know, I can get everything done, I can eat
- 52:09and then I can get my work out in, take a shower, go
- 52:13to bed. I'm good, right, But one of the keys to athletic
- 52:16performances avoiding a mount hurt a mount nurse state, correct, right, right,
- 52:21So why do you think they call it breakfast because you're breaking your fast?
- 52:25Right, So, if you go eight hours without food during your sleep
- 52:28cycle, you're automatically waking up in a mount nurse state, automatically because all
- 52:32the biochemical reactions that have taken place during your sleep cycle have taken nutritional intake
- 52:37requirement. Right. Seeing, I'm thinking on the other I'm I'm I'm on
- 52:40the flip side of that, Like I'm thinking I don't want to eat and
- 52:43then go to bed, you know, But I'm thinking in my head,
- 52:50in my mindset, yeah, Like I'm thinking, like, Okay, I
- 52:52don't want to eat and then go to bed and go to you know,
- 52:55take that to bed with you, you know, because that's what they say,
- 52:59right, That's what they say. That's all that I mean. So
- 53:00I have to stalk with people on a daily basis. Who are they?
- 53:04I've never met remember any of them? Yeah, I've never met they.
- 53:07There's this mythical they that live in an ivory tower that dictate everything that we
- 53:10do, right, Like, don't unequivocally take some rule that someone said with
- 53:16no explanation or understanding and apply it to your life. That's madness. Think
- 53:22about what it is and think about the application of it, and doesn't make
- 53:25sense. You were you were one of the top athletes in this ever to
- 53:29come out of the state, Carl, Why are you living like some old
- 53:32dude that's afraid of getting fat? What are you doing? Man? I
- 53:37just I don't know. I just I've been I'm stuck into the idea of
- 53:42like I like I could even make the case I'm almost addicted to working out.
- 53:46Like if I'm not working out, something is wrong, Like that's that's
- 53:50that's not necessarily a problem. As long as you have the nutritional intake there
- 53:52and if you don't eat as long as you don't eat carbohydrates before you go
- 53:55to bed, you don't trigger an insulin response from the pancreas, then you're
- 53:59not going to gain body fat. But if you have like a healthy fat
- 54:01and some type of animal protein before you go to bed, and that's going
- 54:06to provide the building blocks you need to repair the tissues during your sleep cycle
- 54:09without trigging an insulin response, that's going to create triglycerize and make your game.
- 54:14What is a healthy fat and like, dude, does that mean like
- 54:15you could just eat like a you know, a piece of like baked chicken
- 54:20before bed. But what's a healthy fat? But healthy fat is a fat
- 54:23that's liquid at room temperature. That's a that's a common rule that everybody can
- 54:28apply without me getting into all the fancy signs. Yeah, okay, that's
- 54:31liquid at room temperature. Right, So olive oil, so okay. So
- 54:36basically, mono ensaturated and poly insaturated fats are healthy. Primarily mono and saturatdor
- 54:40are the most healthy fats that you can eat. So we're talking about avocado
- 54:44oil, olive oil, these things, macadam and oil. Also poly and
- 54:49saturated fats. You can find those in all natural peanut butter. Not Jeff
- 54:53guys, okay, not Jeff fat. Right, my brain, we're talking
- 54:57we're talking about we're talking about talking about peanut butters. Did only two ingredients,
- 55:00which is peanuts and salt. The kind of has oil on top.
- 55:04You got to mix up a refrigerator and all that kind of stuff. That's
- 55:07really healthy fats and they're not going to clog up your heart. The reason
- 55:09you can't eat saturated fat is because the melting point is saturated fat is one
- 55:14hundred and fifteen degrees fahrenheit plus. So if you eat saturated fat, when
- 55:17it's digested and converted to monomer form put in our bloodstream, it's now an
- 55:22environment that is lower than its melting point, So it wants to form solid
- 55:27aggregates and be in a solid state in our body, and that's going to
- 55:30clog up our heart and give us heart disease. But unsaturated fat, the
- 55:35melting point is about fifty five degrees fahrenheit, which is below room temperature and
- 55:37below our body temperature. So if you eat monoinsaturated or poly unsaturated fats,
- 55:43they're going to stay liquid in our bloodstream and it's impossible for them to give
- 55:45us heart disease. Yeah. Man, And it's funny because I just seen
- 55:51like just a little bit off topic, but I've seen a gentleman. I've
- 55:53probably seen him three or four weeks ago, and he had he was walking
- 55:58around, you know, he's a little heavy seg heavy sat guy. I
- 56:00seen him this weekend. Both his legs gone, you know, and it's
- 56:06like and it just kind of I've been in the gym since trying to watch
- 56:08what I eat because it's like with the sugars, and everything you say like
- 56:12just diabetes and it's just like that scares me to death. Killed. It's
- 56:15one of the reasons I know so much. Yeah, because so it's like
- 56:17all that because what you're saying about sugar, just like how our body reacts,
- 56:22and you're saying about the glucose and the water and everything like that.
- 56:24That that that connects with me. So yes, yeah, well it's bigger
- 56:29than just athletes, I think. And just to make drive that point home,
- 56:31this is about you know, overall else which again I think it's I
- 56:35think we're gonna apply a little bit of that to our lives. Again.
- 56:37Reason why I wanted you to get into all of this just because I think
- 56:44it is a It is a I mean, even someone like me who's still
- 56:50doing things the wrong way or doing things the wrong way, you're providing information,
- 56:58helpful information of those who are not doing anything and letting them know.
- 57:02You don't have to do a bunch, No, you just have to basically
- 57:07if you can eat right, yeah, and drink your water and drink your
- 57:10water, do have time to give a basic rundown of how to eat.
- 57:13Yeah, I want to know you wanted me to cover that, right,
- 57:15Okay, So get back to what we talked about earlier in the show with
- 57:17a foundational approach and the situational approach to try to get through this so everybody
- 57:22can listen to it and get some help. The foundational approach is basically like,
- 57:25so, if you're a parent and you're trying to feed your kid correctly,
- 57:28again, don't depend on the school system or the coaches to do this
- 57:30for you. It is your job as a parent to make sure that your
- 57:34kids get fed correctly. And the easiest approach is going to be three solid
- 57:39meals, three primary meals breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and two snacks.
- 57:44Okay, and the primary meals need to be centered around protein, animal
- 57:46protein, not plant protein. So a breakfast would look something like eggs and
- 57:52a little bit of egg whites with some oatmeals, some fruit, and then
- 57:54launch would look something like chicken breast with some starchy complex carbohydrates like rice,
- 58:00potatoes, pastas, and then a healthy fast source like avocado oil, op
- 58:05olive oil, or handful of peanuts, handful of mixed nuts or peanut butter
- 58:09sandwich like you said, will be fine, okay, and then dinner yep,
- 58:15yep, and then dinner would be something like you know, salmon,
- 58:17chicken, breast, you know, lean red meat. Again, an animal
- 58:21protein source to cover your structural need. Because protein is our structure nutrient.
- 58:24It's what replenishes all of our structures, our muscles, our skin, our
- 58:28hair, our eyes, our nails, everything is made of protein, guys.
- 58:30And then a complex carbohydrates source again, that's going to be loglocemic.
- 58:36You want logo semic. And what that means is a glocemic index is basically
- 58:39something that dictates how easily a carbohydrate will trigger your blood glucose spike. Because
- 58:45if you spike your blood glucose, you're going to trigger insulin release and insulins
- 58:49our storage hormone that's going to take the excess sugar converted to body convert it
- 58:52to trugly strides towards body fat. We don't want that, so we want
- 58:55logocemic carbohydrates when we eat. And then the two snacks should not includ carbohydrates.
- 59:00They should be like a fast digesting animal protein like weive protein. Then
- 59:05maybe you know, like an apple or a banana, and again like some
- 59:07peanut butter or a handful of nuts. You need healthy fats and healthy proteins
- 59:12every two to three hours. And again this is a foundational approach to make
- 59:15sure that your child has enough nutrients for proper growth and development. Then,
- 59:20with regards to the game or practice, you would like to have some type
- 59:23of meal about thirty to forty five minutes before the practice of the game that
- 59:28does not have fats, that centered around a fast digesting protein like a wave
- 59:31protein drink, have something that starts you like gram crackers with some fruit like
- 59:37a banana, something like that. And then during the game, the primary
- 59:39function is hydration. I would recommend alternating eight ounces of water with eight ounces
- 59:44of gatorad eight ounces of water eight ounces of gatoray, because you need a
- 59:46little bit more water then you need gatorade. Okay, there's so much sugar
- 59:51and gator it can actually compromise your hydration if you drink too much of it
- 59:53too fast. And then after the game you want to replenish glycasian, so
- 59:58you want a carbohydrates worse, But y'all wants to want some protein and some
- 1:00:00healthy fast after the game to make sure that you start, you know,
- 1:00:05replenishing your glycogen and repairing whatever tissue damage was done. During the game,
- 1:00:08the practice or the workout, and he just laid it out for y'all.
- 1:00:12If you can't get enough from that, we can't help you no more.
- 1:00:15Yeah, I mean is that answer? Yes? Yeah? And again I
- 1:00:21think you know. For me, I thought this was extremely extremely important information
- 1:00:29that I think everybody needs to know and pick up something, take something,
- 1:00:37take something from from the from the conversation today, because if you don't,
- 1:00:44and you just kind of go. And again, I'm a person who just
- 1:00:49was going and and I realized too that I was. I was, I
- 1:00:52was wrong on my part. So please take the information. And again we
- 1:00:58appreciate again second second term in we need it. But we needed it because
- 1:01:02we thought it was really really information and I think that a lot of parents
- 1:01:07needed to know. All right, happy to be here, ladies and gentlemen.
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