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Tammy Hembrow and Bailey Smith Break the Internet · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Sikowsky
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  Speaker 1: claims he's been blindsided as Tammy Hembrough is spotted kissing
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  Speaker 1: AFL star Bailey Smith and a renowned psychic calls out
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson. But first, Freely the Banana Girl is back
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  Speaker 1: and unlike we've seen her before. The infamous vegan YouTuber
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  Speaker 1: who rose to internet fame in the 2010s has announced
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  Speaker 1: she'll be creating more content for her almost 800,000 subscribers
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  Speaker 1: thanks to the help of AI. When this dropped into
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  Speaker 1: my YouTube feed, I felt really uneasy because it coincided
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  Speaker 1: with our deep dive on Freely. Fortunately, the timing is
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  Speaker 1: just a coincidence because Freely She actually posted the YouTube
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  Speaker 1: video the day before we.
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  Speaker 2: Dropped the first episode.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad we're not behind her sudden interest in
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  Speaker 1: posting more consistently on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: You thought you'd spurred her on almost?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because after our Sharni Grim and Deep
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  Speaker 1: dive last year, Sharni actually messaged us saying that we
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  Speaker 1: inspired her to post again because it made her feel
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  Speaker 1: really nostalgic and really loved. And that was very cool,
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  Speaker 1: but I definitely don't want to be responsible for freely
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  Speaker 1: returning more consistently to YouTube. Yeah, but I mean, she
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  Speaker 1: really never took a break as such from social. So
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  Speaker 1: since moving to the jungle eight years ago, she's been
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  Speaker 1: sporadically posting on YouTube and Instagram. Yeah, so a couple
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  Speaker 1: of videos here and there. But on the 30th of July,
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  Speaker 1: she unveiled Virtual Freely, who she says will help her
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  Speaker 1: create more content for YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen to what she said.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Frigavore.
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  Speaker 4: Meet Virtual Freely, my digital clone. What you're looking at
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  Speaker 4: right now is still me, just presented in a virtual way.
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  Speaker 4: This video is filmed here in the jungle and the
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  Speaker 4: voice you're hearing is my actual voice. So why am
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  Speaker 4: I doing this? Because life on the fruit farm can
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  Speaker 4: be full on and I want to bring you more
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  Speaker 4: high quality videos and audio without constantly setting up cameras, lights,
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  Speaker 4: mic and studio. And I will still make some real
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  Speaker 4: videos but using this avatar means I can spend less
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  Speaker 4: time on production and more time on what matters. Creating
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  Speaker 4: videos that are sharper, better researched and packed with information
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  Speaker 4: that can help change your life.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Amy, I've just shown you the video about five
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  Speaker 1: minutes ago in prep for this episode. Could you tell
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  Speaker 1: it was AI? Well, to be honest, I had to
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  Speaker 1: put my glasses on and it was only when I
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  Speaker 1: put them on that I realised it was.
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  Speaker 3: In fact AI. It looks pretty bloody good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it seems like some of her viewers haven't
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  Speaker 1: even picked up on that it's virtual freely because She
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  Speaker 1: put this video out explaining that she's going to be
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  Speaker 1: using AI 12 days ago. She's now posted three videos
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  Speaker 1: in that space of time, which is a lot for her.
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  Speaker 3: I just want one of these AI bots to put
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  Speaker 3: on my Zoom calls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought how great it would be for
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  Speaker 1: podcasting because everyone's putting their podcasts out as a video
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  Speaker 1: and it's a real bitch to actually have to get
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  Speaker 1: dressed up, turn lights on. I can see where Frilly's
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  Speaker 1: coming from. The production does take a long time. What
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  Speaker 1: has the reaction been from her followers?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's been mixed.
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  Speaker 1: So someone wrote, wow, you're the first creator I've seen
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  Speaker 1: do this. I have no opinion about AI and our future,
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  Speaker 1: but this AI clone is very fascinating in itself, which.
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  Speaker 2: I tend to agree with.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else wrote, so sorry to see this from a
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  Speaker 1: spiritual woman who is supporting transhumanism. Now freely replied to
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  Speaker 1: that message saying, stop trying to make it something more
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  Speaker 1: than it is. I'm not here auditioning for the role
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  Speaker 1: of a guru. I'm here to get a message out.
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  Speaker 1: If using a digital clone helps me post more often,
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  Speaker 1: that's called being efficient, not transhumanist.
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  Speaker 2: It's still me.
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  Speaker 1: You're just seeing the message without me juggling cameras and
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  Speaker 1: tripods in the jungle. I'm using the tools available to
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  Speaker 1: share this message more consistently. Nothing more, nothing less. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people were also questioning Freely on the environmental
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  Speaker 1: impact of AI, and she defended her actions in a
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  Speaker 1: very lengthy comment. Essentially, she said that common tasks like
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  Speaker 1: scrolling on social media or Watching Netflix, driving and wearing
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  Speaker 1: makeup all use more energy than her AI video and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately it'll save more than it spends. She then of
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  Speaker 1: course turned the message back to push her vegan agenda saying,
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  Speaker 1: so when someone eats cooked food or packet foods wants
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  Speaker 1: to complain about the footprint of AI videos, that's like
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  Speaker 1: a person driving a diesel truck yelling at a cyclist
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  Speaker 1: for polluting.
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  Speaker 3: I can see where people are.
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  Speaker 1: Coming from because it's very mixed messaging and Freely's pushing
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  Speaker 1: this very organic life that she's living off the earth,
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  Speaker 1: but then next minute she's created some fake AI persona. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there isn't a single vegan stance on AI at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose a lot of discussion has been around the
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  Speaker 1: environmental impact that doesn't really seem to align with Freely's.
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  Speaker 2: Lifestyle, does it?
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  Speaker 1: But even just from the sense of being authentic, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem very authentic to have an AI bot created
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  Speaker 1: on you. Wouldn't it be better that she just went
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  Speaker 1: back to basics with her filming and started using a
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  Speaker 1: basic vlog camera rather than all the lighting and the tripods. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it didn't even seem like she actually voiced it.
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  Speaker 1: She said, oh, you know, this is my real voice.
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  Speaker 1: But I think she's just writing a script into whatever
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  Speaker 1: program that she is using. Next, there's going to be
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  Speaker 1: rumours that she's died. Like, do you remember those Avril
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  Speaker 1: Lavigne rumours that there's a fake I was thinking about
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  Speaker 1: that and the whole Britney Spears clone rumor as well.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what technology she's using and how much it
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  Speaker 1: actually costs. If I was a fan of Freely, this
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  Speaker 1: would totally put me off from watching her because I
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  Speaker 1: want to see a real person. Yeah, but I think
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  Speaker 1: the people that are still following Freely are the hardcore
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  Speaker 1: vegans that are interested in the research that she is
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  Speaker 1: doing into veganism. So it does make sense for her
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  Speaker 1: to spend her time researching and putting her theories together
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  Speaker 1: rather than looking pretty on the camera. Now, it's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because Freely is the first human influencer I've seen implement this.
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  Speaker 2: Type of AI strategy.
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  Speaker 1: But AI is already really infiltrating the influencer world in
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  Speaker 1: an unexpected way. I mean, last month, Amy, we spoke
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  Speaker 1: on our subscription channel, Outspoken Plus, about influencer Mia Zulu.
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  Speaker 1: So she has 167,000 followers and went viral last month
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  Speaker 1: after posting photos at Wimbledon.
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  Speaker 2: However, it was not all that it seemed. Many people
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  Speaker 2: were shocked.
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  Speaker 1: To discover that the very aesthetically pleasing photos of the
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  Speaker 1: stunning woman were actually AI generated. Yeah, she popped up
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  Speaker 1: on my Facebook feed and I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that woman is stunning. I was thinking the tennis players
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  Speaker 1: must be all trying to date her because all shots
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  Speaker 1: were at Wimbledon.
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  Speaker 2: When I read the headline, I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: she's not even real.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like she has actually tricked a few sportsmen.
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  Speaker 1: There's a few famous cricketers that have been commenting on
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  Speaker 1: her posts. If you go on Mia's Instagram account, in
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  Speaker 1: the bio, it clearly states that she is an AI
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  Speaker 1: influencer and.
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  Speaker 2: A digital storyteller.
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  Speaker 1: But really, when you're scrolling your feed and you see
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  Speaker 1: a photo pop up, you're not really going to go
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  Speaker 1: check to see if the woman's real or AI are you.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people are getting tricked.
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  Speaker 1: The crazy thing is that most of Mia's feed posts
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  Speaker 1: are photos of herself. But she's actually started posting videos
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  Speaker 1: as well that are just really freaky.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen the videos yet. They're very realistic.
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  Speaker 3: They would trick some people.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's also got a sister called Anna Zulu and
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  Speaker 1: her virtual sister's Instagram account is actually more popular than
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  Speaker 1: her own. It has 266,000 followers. She's a brunette. She's
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  Speaker 1: also very stunning. The real person behind these accounts though
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  Speaker 1: remains anonymous. Interestingly, they provide an email address for collaboration.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're actually branded collaborations or
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  Speaker 1: collaborations for the AI technology that they're using.
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  Speaker 3: What's the bet? It's some guy behind it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: The person that is behind this could not look any
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  Speaker 1: more dissimilar to Mia Zulu, I bet.
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  Speaker 3: This is the bullshit thing.
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  Speaker 1: We've got these men now stealing away female influencers' earning capacity,
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  Speaker 1: like creating these fake people. I mean, this just says
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  Speaker 1: a lot about where our society is at. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that people have mistaken Mia Zulu just proves– how much
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  Speaker 1: our eyes are conditioned to see these very hyper polished
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  Speaker 1: people on social media, all the filters. We can't actually
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  Speaker 1: determine whether the person is real or not. And this
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  Speaker 1: new existence of AI influencers is sparking a lot of
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  Speaker 1: conversations about authenticity, emotional influence, and how we interact with
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  Speaker 1: digital personas online. And it shows that we very much
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  Speaker 1: need clear labeling for AI generated content because people don't
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  Speaker 1: know the difference.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your mom and.
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  Speaker 1: Before you were conceived, I was absolutely sure that you
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  Speaker 1: were a boy.
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  Speaker 4: And then we conceived, and since I've been pregnant, I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the next topic, we want to
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  Speaker 1: issue a trigger warning as we do talk about traumatic births.
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  Speaker 1: A renowned psychic has called out Georgie Stevenson, claiming the
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  Speaker 1: wellness entrepreneur hasn't delivered on a contra deal. Psychic Fontini
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  Speaker 1: performed a fertility cleansing on Georgie right before her successful
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  Speaker 1: embryo transfer late last year. Followers were shocked by the
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  Speaker 1: timing of the call-out, with Georgie only just giving birth
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  Speaker 1: to her daughter Lacey a month ago after a traumatic birth.
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  Speaker 1: Lacey was born six weeks early via an emergency C-section
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  Speaker 1: after Georgie's placenta hemorrhaged. Now, before we get into it, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: who is Psychic Fontini? Well, she's made a name for
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  Speaker 1: herself as being a bit of a psychic to the influencers,
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  Speaker 1: so she has over 60,000 Instagram followers. and has worked
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  Speaker 1: with countless Australian influencers. In fact, the work she does
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  Speaker 1: with influencers is a big part of her marketing strategy.
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  Speaker 1: So she promotes her success stories with influencers across her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram feed and also in her Instagram highlights. Her clients
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  Speaker 1: have included Bec Judd, Martha Califatidis, Kira Rumble, Kayla and
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  Speaker 1: Leah Acenas, Sharon Orville, Ellie Gonzalez's, Brooke Blurton and Olivia Mesquite,
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  Speaker 1: just to name a few. Is there anyone she hasn't
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  Speaker 1: dealt with in the Australian influencer world?
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe all of them.
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  Speaker 1: So back in 2020, both Bec Judd and Martha Kalafatidis
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  Speaker 1: shared that Fontini had cleansed their homes.
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  Speaker 2: Of negative energy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I'll be hearing from Tammy Hembrough next.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Well, Martha revealed that she would no longer
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  Speaker 1: be filming a planned house tour because Fontini.
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  Speaker 2: Told her that it was bad luck to let people's eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And energy into her home. And more recently, Fontini has
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  Speaker 1: made a name for herself as the Instagram queen of
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy cleansers and predictions. So in 2024, she announced that
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  Speaker 1: she helped Wiggle star Katerina Metti fall pregnant with twins.
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  Speaker 1: So the 43-year-old Wiggle had a fertility cleansing with Fontini
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  Speaker 1: before undergoing a successful embryo transfer. This is just reminding
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  Speaker 1: me of my wedding celebrant who said that she had,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a 70% success rate with her
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  Speaker 1: couples having twins. Yeah, well, you didn't have them, so
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  Speaker 1: you've kind of lowered her stats there.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like Fontini's marketing clearly works because her
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  Speaker 1: psychic card readings are booked up until January, 2027. She
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  Speaker 1: currently though has cleansing spots available. I think the fertility
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  Speaker 1: cleansers are a lot less time consuming for Fontini because
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  Speaker 1: basically all the communication is done via SMS. So you
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  Speaker 1: text her and say, hey, I want a fertility cleansing.
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  Speaker 1: And she writes your name down on a piece of
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  Speaker 1: paper and the date. And then she gets this thing
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  Speaker 1: that kind of looks like.
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  Speaker 2: A genie lamp.
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  Speaker 1: That you can light up and she burns that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot more to it.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like she needs her own AI bot like freely.
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  Speaker 2: What to handle all the SMSes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Just send a little video of her doing it at least.
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  Speaker 2: That would take a lot out of the experience, I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, last week, Fontini shared a screenshot of a private
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  Speaker 1: message thread between her and Georgie. So on the 4th
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  Speaker 1: of September, Georgie messaged Fontini saying she wanted to book
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  Speaker 1: in a reading. There was no response from Fontini, but
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  Speaker 1: a follow-up message from Georgie on the 22nd of October.
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  Speaker 1: asking if her clearings were done. Now, Fontini replied saying
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  Speaker 1: she would call Georgie. Now, Fontini went on to share
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  Speaker 1: a follow-up conversation between her and Georgie, but the dates
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  Speaker 1: weren't visible. In those messages, the pair discussed whether the
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  Speaker 1: exchange would be contra or paid. And Georgie wrote, I'm
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  Speaker 1: happy with either. What feels best for you? I would
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  Speaker 1: happily post and even love to have you on my
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  Speaker 1: podcast if you're interested.
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  Speaker 2: Dream guest on my podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Now, Georgie added that she would also like a womb
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  Speaker 1: clearing if possible. Fontini then went on to share proof
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  Speaker 1: of her doing the cleansing. So in the photos, there's
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  Speaker 1: a piece of notepaper with Georgie's name and the date,
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  Speaker 1: which read the 18th of October, along with that genie
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  Speaker 1: lamp I was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's got a much more professional name. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Fontini then went on to share screenshots from Georgie's Instagram
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  Speaker 1: stories that she had posted that day. One of the
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  Speaker 1: photos was of Georgie crying, holding her newborn with the caption,
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  Speaker 1: not me crying, thinking how insanely blessed I am with
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  Speaker 1: this little cherub.
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  Speaker 2: And another was just.
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  Speaker 1: A photo of Georgie's daughter stretching out on her changing
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  Speaker 1: table with Georgie providing an update about her weight. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Fontini captioned this carousel of posts, Hi, let me teach
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  Speaker 1: you something about taking your power back, especially with the
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Lionsgate malarkey. It's one thing to help and get the result.
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  Speaker 1: And it's one thing to say you will do something
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  Speaker 1: when you don't. My final words on this fertility cleansing
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  Speaker 1: that I did is don't mess with this lion, especially
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  Speaker 1: a Greek one. She then wrote in Greek kisses from
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  Speaker 1: the homeland. It's interesting because Martha Kalafatidis liked the post.
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  Speaker 1: And when you look at the comments, there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of support for Fontini, but there were messages in
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  Speaker 1: our Facebook group about this saying that they were writing
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  Speaker 1: supportive messages for Georgie, which were getting deleted. I actually
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  Speaker 1: saw a few of them removed as well. When I
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  Speaker 1: first saw this, I thought, is this woman actually for real?
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Stevenson has just gone through an extremely traumatic birth.
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  Speaker 1: She only just recently got her daughter home from hospital.
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  Speaker 1: And we're posting this shit basically because you're having a
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  Speaker 1: hissy fit that you haven't been endorsed as this natural cleanser. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to get some publicity around the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Georgie had fallen pregnant after her fertility struggles. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was pretty shocked by the timing of this call out,
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  Speaker 1: particularly because Georgie has been very open about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that she's had a tough journey to conceive her second child.
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  Speaker 1: So after announcing her pregnancy news, she shared this very
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  Speaker 1: raw YouTube video, which was a compilation of video updates
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  Speaker 1: from her last 12 months of trying to conceive.
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  Speaker 2: And during those.
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  Speaker 1: Video updates, Georgie spoke about the shock when she was
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  Speaker 1: told by a doctor after her first round of IVF,
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  Speaker 1: just before they were about to transfer the embryos, that
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  Speaker 1: due to human error, all the embryos had died. This
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  Speaker 1: was just so difficult to watch. Yeah, so she's been
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  Speaker 1: through a really rough time conceiving. I mean, Fontini has
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  Speaker 1: already been using Georgie for promotion across her own page.
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  Speaker 1: So she's posted grid posts claiming that Georgie's pregnancy is
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  Speaker 1: down to her. She also posted photos from her baby announcement,
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  Speaker 1: her gender reveal, and also Georgie's baby shower. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if the whole big deal is that Georgie hasn't had
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  Speaker 1: her on a podcast yet, give the woman a break.
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  Speaker 1: She's literally just given birth to a premature baby and
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  Speaker 1: been at the hospital all day, all night. Well, here's
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  Speaker 1: one way not to get on her podcast. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was also.
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  Speaker 1: Surprised considering that Fontini has so many influencer clients that
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  Speaker 1: she would want to call someone out like this, because
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  Speaker 1: if I was an influencer, I'd be like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I'd want to do a deal with her. Bailey, mate,
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  Speaker 1: how does it feel being a thirst trap for every
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  Speaker 1: young woman in Australia?
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  Speaker 3: Next question.
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  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough has been spotted kissing AFL star Bailey Smith
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  Speaker 1: seven weeks after announcing her divorce from Matt Sikowski. The
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  Speaker 1: new couple were papped leaving a restaurant on the Gold
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  Speaker 1: Coast together on Saturday night. It's also been reported they
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  Speaker 1: were seen out together a week earlier, holding hands.
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  Speaker 3: And kissing for hours.
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  Speaker 1: Now, influencer watchdog account Influencer Updates AU was first to
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  Speaker 1: break the news of the potential coupling over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: They shared screenshots from anonymous sources revealing they'd spotted the
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  Speaker 1: couple out and mainstream media.
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  Speaker 2: Jumped on board this story on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: So the combination of an AFL star and Australia's biggest
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  Speaker 1: influencer means this jostling of mainstream media and.
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  Speaker 3: Gossip sites trying to get the scoop.
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  Speaker 1: So we saw the Daily Mail run pap shots while
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: the Herald Sun managed to get a quote from Matt Sikowsky. Now,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Matt Sikowsky claims he was blindsided by the news. He
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: told the Herald Sun,' We only broke up eight weeks ago.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I just don't understand how someone can move on so quickly.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: It's been 48 days and I'm still trying to work
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: out how I feel as a person after committing in
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: marriage to someone. I'm trying to focus on myself and heal.'
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: It's pretty ironic that Matt spoke to media about this
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: because just last week on his podcast, he did an
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: episode about the 30 things he's learned since turning 30.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: And one of the lessons he made a really big
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: point about was that there is power in staying silent.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: It's also pretty ironic that Matt's saying that Tammy is
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the one that's moved on quickly because he was spotted
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: out drinking with sports journalist Taylor Little a day before
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Tammy announced the divorce. I mean, Not to mention, he
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: was also caught out texting a woman while they were
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: still together.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And also that he's claiming they've only been broken up
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: for 48 days. I mean, they've been living in different
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: states for months now. So it's clear that this breakup
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: happened a long time before the announcement. And I think
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: he's really trying to center himself as the victim in
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this whole thing. And giving quotes to the media, it's like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: are you just trying to get more and more attention
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: from this and ride on her coattails? The whole thing
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: is you could read it two different ways. You could go, oh, wow,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that's really rough of Tammy to move on so quickly
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: after this marriage? Or you could go, is she moving
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: on so quickly because she was fucked over by Matt?
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's a very bold statement from Tammy. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: it is off the back of a series of very
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: calculated moves from her because Last week we were discussing
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: how she baited her followers with a Rhys Hawkins reunion
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and now she's been papped on a date with Australia's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: most eligible bachelor.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: It's just honestly the story that keeps giving and giving.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: It is. I mean, funnily enough, Bailey Smith is Tinder's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: latest ambassador. I wonder how they're feeling about this match because,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: let's face it, they did not meet on Tinder. Potentially, Raya,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm thinking it's another sneaky DM slide. Well, Tinder
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: got Bailey Smith on board because he is a big
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Gen Z heartthrob. I wonder if this means that they're
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: all now going to turn on Tammy because everyone's going
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: to be jealous. I mean, I think there'll be a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: level of jealousy, but then there's also a lot of
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: people going, oh, I get it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Like, I get why you've moved on so quickly. Like
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: he's hot.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So many people are saying they look like brother and sister.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I can't unsee it now.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: They look very similar.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: People are also discussing the age gap. So Bailey is
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: 24 and Tammy is 31. I personally see nothing wrong
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: with this. I mean, it's clearly a rebound and what
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: a hot rebound. Yeah, but everyone thought Matt Sikowsky was
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a rebound as well.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So I think people don't really care about the age.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's more the fact that Tammy has three
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: kids and seems to be moving on quite quickly because
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: she does fall in love very quickly as we saw
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: with Matt Sikowsky. But from what I know about Bailey Smith,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised we haven't thought about this pairing before because
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they actually seem quite well connected.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, Amy, come on.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: This latest publicity stunt just proves to me that Tummy
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: is out for revenge on Matt Sikorski.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: She's not over Matt.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: She wants to hit him where it hurts, particularly because
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Matt is a Melbourne boy and he's a big AFL fan.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: He's actually the one that introduced Tummy to AFL. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: when they were together, they went to a lot of
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Suns games. And what makes this all
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: even juicier is the fact that Matt posted at Friday
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: night's games So Bailey Smith's team Geelong took on Matt's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: favourite team Essendon. And to add insult to injury, Geelong
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: whipped Essendon Matt posted a photo of him in his
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Essendon gear at the game and wrote, Essendon lost, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm still smiling because happiness is a choice, not a destination.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Of when Andy Lee and Megan Gale were dating about
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago and his favorite team were Carlton. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: then she ended up dating one of Carlton's really good
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: looking players. It's a great power move. It's pretty funny
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because media were waiting at the airport for Bailey Smith
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: to return from the Gold Coast. And he flew back
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: home on Sunday and a pap did their job. They
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: managed to really annoy Bailey Smith. Let's throw to that
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: exchange at the airport.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So what's the story with you and Tammy Hembrough?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Can you tell us?
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: It's Hembrough, not Hembrough.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Hembrough?
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Hembrough?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Hembrough?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: You guys an item or what? An item or what?
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: We saw you over the weekend kissing and canoodling at
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a restaurant on the Gold Coast and then leaving arm
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in arm.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Hand in hand. What can you tell us? You're a
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: grown man.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: There's nothing you want to tell us?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Nothing you want to.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Tell us, Bailey?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You guys serious? Or is this a long-term thing?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: What do you think? You can tell us.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I wish you guys all the best, eh?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I actually love that this was Bailey Smith's response because
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I can't stand when people say Hembrough either. Yeah, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: at least he knows how to say Tammy's name properly.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of when Bailey gave the finger to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: some Crows supporters during Gather Round and all the journos
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: were chasing him around trying to get comment about that. Well,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he gave the bird to the paparazzi on the date
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: with Tammy Hembrough as well, so it seems to be
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: his signature move. He's known in the media for being
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: very open because normally all of the footballers are very
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: media trained, but he has been giving all these really
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: great funny one-liners he's actually been praised for bringing a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: bit of personality back to the sport well he gave
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of personality to that pap on sunday calling
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: him an effing c think about all these poor gen
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: z's though that have signed up to tinder with the
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: hope of actually just having him come across their feed
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and now this tinder probably in crisis talks at the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: moment like for fuck's sake and ray is probably like
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: oh maybe we should poach him if i was tinder
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: i'd just be pushing the narrative that that's where they
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: met that tammy hembro is also on tinder i.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Well, that is where we're going to leave things today.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited because on Friday, we're back with our
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: regular episode.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And I think there's probably going to be a lot
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to talk about.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Tammy Hembrough keeps delivering.
• 21:18
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• 21:19
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• 21:23
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• 21:26
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• 21:29
  Speaker 1: We just talk more about influences on there. Well, thank
• 21:32
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• 21:34
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• 21:35
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• 21:39
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• 21:41
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• 21:48
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