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Random Heathen Ramblings: S2, EP37 - Ramblings With A Forrest Troll! (Feat. Scufflemöss Treemen) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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Yeah. Hail and welcome everyone.
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Welcome back to another random even rambling podcast.
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My name is Jessie and I'm your host.
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This is a midgard, musings production, let's get into it.
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Got some down home playing. Yeah,
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duffman. Good stuff.
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This is a song called Ryder Ryder.
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And that word stands for anger or performing a sacred Act.
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So, with that in mind, welcome to today's podcast.
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Hope you guys and gals out here in midgard are doing well,
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today's guest bit of a fun, one, bit of a unique one, the the
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guests that that's going to be joining me today.
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Definitely not Heathen, least not to the best of my knowledge,
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but our paths have crossed from Time to time here in my area and
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it's a bit of an interesting you know, relationship, that's
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developed, very elusive guest. Who's who's going to be joining
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us today? You were going to be for the
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first time on the random Heathen ramblings podcast.
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You are going to be meeting a forest troll of sorts and his
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name is scuffle Moss. So for all of the local
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Murfreesboro Tennessee, See people, you've probably seen
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them around. Follow the stories, followed his
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adventures and we're going to talk a bit about stuff today.
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So we're going to see what we get into.
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So let's go ahead and get our intro going and start Today's
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Show. Alright, so yeah, before we get
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bring in scuffle Moss treeman. He does have a surname.
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The forest troll from here. In and around Murfreesboro, I
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don't think he's from here but we're going to find out.
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So let's go ahead and welcome in scuffle Moss.
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All right, folks. Well, like I said, here, we are
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with the, the Elusive and the interesting scuffle Moss Tremont
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first time on the random, even ramblings podcast.
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So welcome to the show scuffle moss.
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In New Jersey is been a very long time.
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Yeah, it has, we, what have you been up to here lately, man?
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Because I know the last time she did, I think the last time I saw
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you like you actually had me A show of yours.
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This is probably right like at the beginning of my midgard,
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musings Channel, you know, you had me, come over and we did a
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story time and and stuff like that.
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But what have you been up to ever since then you know, you
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kind of disappeared there for a little bit?
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It seems I was doing Storytime and I
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would have our guests come on the show, we had you and we
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talked about a little bit of so miss ologies week, it was a good
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time since then, I've done several things.
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I no longer in doing the online story times or instead I focus
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on like a young kind of my musical thing which is Usually,
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it's mostly evaporated, but it's still got Porter with that.
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I'm keeping a lawyer who'd resuscitating or in actually
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going to be releasing an album on February 11th.
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No called quarantine sessions. Who fun stuff.
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What kind of music does a troll? Play these days?
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I've never heard of trolls playing music.
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That's well, I've seen it, but you're like the only one.
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One. So I'm curious like what kind of
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music are we talking about here? The like jazz, is it like, you
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know, Rave is it instance, you know, everything
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music because I love music. One of the four strokes on the
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album is a hip-hop song. I just finished product.
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It sounds awesome. Another one.
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We've got in all the from the wooden days or it's called root.
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There's hot chicken with both those or heavy about.
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They do. I sound a little more like a
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little closer to do block metal. Stoner metal, okay, The law, I
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have other things like see, snowflakes still fall which is a
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spoken word acoustic kind of song.
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All of this it's all into a size 16 solo album and this is all
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you write. Like this is all scuffle more
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stuff original original stuff or whatever.
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Wow, exceptional Well, not exactly.
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Five hits for Local 44 covers that were produced by Rick, put
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her a of the windmills. Oh yeah.
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The only mom is man, that's cool.
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It's great to see that Rick and then mirror kind of a part of
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that project that's that's awesome.
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It's mainly Rick. Rick has been doing the
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producing for me recently. Okay cool.
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Well, that's awesome news. I'm glad to hear that.
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You know, you've been staying busy and that this whole, you
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know, World pandemic thing hasn't kept you down so bad,
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which, you know, it's affected, a lot of us in a lot of
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different ways, you know, people all over the world are feeling
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this and continue to feel. It's Ripple effects, you know,
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even now in today. So I'm glad to hear that, you
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know, a pandemic doesn't keep a forest rolled down.
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It's been a rough time but these are the good times.
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Okay, great. Glad to hear that.
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And I want to, I want to kind of let people know a little bit
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about kind of our history and talk a little bit and learn a
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little bit more about you because I'm sure that out of all
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of the guests that I've had on my show.
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You're probably the most intriguing one at least visually
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and everything. People are like, what in the
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world did you get a troll? Especially me being Being who I
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am and, you know, the religious in faith, spirituality,
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whatever, that I follow heathens.
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There's a lot of folklore that surround trolls in different
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parts of Scandinavia. But overall, the general theme
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of the troll in most of Scandinavian folklore, is that
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they're, they're, they're pretty much bad news and they're,
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they're unsavory types. Now, I know differently for, at
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least from the forest troll. Some species or or whatever.
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I don't know how that that's the right word, but our oldest rule.
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Yeah. You know, in general trolls tend
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to be uneducated with, I think that's what makes them honoring.
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Well, I mean, you're educated and a bit sophisticated because
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you got on a freaking knit vest man or or jacket, you know, I
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mean like you're not just wearing Moss for your for your
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garbs, which I think when we first First met, it was clothes
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were kind of hard to come by for you there for a little bit.
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We're close. I wanted to just wear the pearl
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of stock that I heard it. It honestly it's nice wearing
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clothing I can't object to it. We don't sure, you know, no one
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generally goes In most cases the, you know, I recently had an
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experience which I talked about on the last podcast, you know?
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So for everybody listening the one last week with Dingo and,
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and Patrick, where we talked about our spiritual camping,
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trip, and everything, part of the part of the thing that I
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learned about, that was the importance of clothing, because
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it was in the 20s at night, and you got to have clothes and
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layers on to keep warm, but then some other times, you know, they
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are, it's just, it's part of that.
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A human thing that becomes so cumbersome.
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And so awkward sometimes it's like, you know, I wish I could
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just forget about all this. Clothing and then and eating and
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chewing and my gosh, it's so so cumbersome to have to do all
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that stuff. What's that like for a troll?
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Is it the same thing? But my son garble, he does not
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wear clothes, he runs around Stark naked and he don't have.
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So that's another thing that happened.
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Since we've seen each other, I produce the baby
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Congratulations. How did that work out?
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Like how does a troll produce Offspring?
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Is it like the same way as like the birds and the bees, but in
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the troll version. So, like with Forest trolls, we
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have a special organ that's located in her chest.
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It's called The Root. I call it my route and in
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general when Forest, Rosewood mate, because we used to be Your
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sexual production, kind of creatures.
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What does not exist in any more clothes on on the last one?
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So it's for my son, you wouldn't tangle your roots and then all
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the nutrients from the parents. Would go into the roots with it
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would form. Oh baby.
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Those whole Forest Rose were originally found.
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Both. In my case, I did not pollinate
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for a very long time. It got booked up.
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Then I went into the bathroom for three hours and I pooped out
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a baby. Don't forgot who came to be
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very, very interesting, very interesting.
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When when we first met some years ago it was at a local
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music venue and I think the general response from the public
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was somewhat of alarm. You know like what is this?
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What is this thing, you know? That that's come out into the
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public now meeting you, right? Because you know how often do we
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see the like live? You not not often if at all you
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know and then in such a short period of time you know, myself
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and so many others in the community really got to know and
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understand like, you know, he's he's different, but he's not
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harmful and if anything he's loving and he wants to be a part
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of the world around him. meaning, you know, the community
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and everything and you really did, I think a great job at you
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know, educating the public and saying, hey just because I'm
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Different, you know, doesn't mean you have to be afraid of me
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or shun me and I think that's a valuable lesson, you know, just
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overall for the world to know, you know, I don't know how you
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will tease essentially, what I was going for when they first
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came out, even though I still, I still want to give love because
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that's really all that matters is the love that we give wound
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all, you know, I don't want to I don't want to spread hate the
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don't like hate. Yeah, it's not fun for anyone
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involved, but in, you know, it sucks because along the way you
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meet people who aren't your room the way that your lives knowing
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up, don't lie? Not, it's those kind of things
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talk but, you know, I'm still front with a lot of folks, and I
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don't go out a whole lot because, Will I mean, I don't
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necessarily have a reason. I used to love going to Auto
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growth. Rehearsal, studios, the venue
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that we method because it's, you know, right down the street.
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It was easy to get to it felt comfortable like there weren't
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any police around to say hey what the heck is not right?
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You know in general I tended to for not music venue.
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Then there was of course, media rerun because that's no longer
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in service. No, I'm kind of out of options
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of places that I'm welcome. Be console, you know?
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Yeah, people don't usually welcome for Right.
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Yeah, that's a like I said, that's one of those unfortunate
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things that, you know, people that just don't understand or
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the don't get you, you know, they want to pass judgment and
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think, oh, he's kinds of crazy things, you know, all these out
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to hurt me, or he's out to cause a Ruckus or he's out to do
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whatever, you know, but I don't know, I know no, not at all.
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I know, you know, I think that the real friends that you make
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along the way, stick with you, through The toughest of times,
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you know, and they they don't they don't abandon you or, you
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know, true friends, don't abandon us and you know, even if
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you don't speak to each other for a very long period of time
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or even if there's this gap between seeing each other and
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stuff, you know, kind of like with us, you know, like, we
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don't talk a whole lot. It's, it's very rare to talk
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like this is the most, I think we've talked in a very long time
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prior to setting this whole thing up, which I'm glad we did.
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Because it sheds, light on a lot of positive things, I think.
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And I wanted to, I wanted to see if you could tell the the public
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and I know very little bit like tell us the story of you because
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again the the mythology and the lore that surrounds trolls and
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Scandinavia get said is largely that of there are magical
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creatures and they're usually out to no good or they're up to
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no good and you know and they want to Cause all kinds of
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problems. But are you native to
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Murfreesboro Tennessee or like how did this how did we like
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tell us the mythology behind scuffle Moss?
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So in general, what would you kill people?
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It was a very long time ago but I'm not a geologist but what I
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found is that are you originated from a forest On the Border zone
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of Germany? Russia, there's somewhere in
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between, are we respond? No one day, I was being chased
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by a Hornet and I showed up into a clearing but I found a very
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large crate of hamburger buns. You know, I stumbled upon said,
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crate of hamburger buns. They started eating them but I
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passed out I fell asleep. Next thing, you know, I need
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Nashville Tennessee. But wow.
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This was like 60 years ago, she look good for 60, if that?
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Yeah. If you're over 32 years, old
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looking damn good. I hope to look as good as you.
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It 200 and some odd mud. Just use mud to exfoliate.
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That's the trick. I spent a couple of decades Like
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six decades hiding in the woods. Eventually I came across a haunt
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like a haunted house. Conducting would the people run
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with Terror? Oh hey you are scary looking.
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We want you to scare people. So they paid me in hunger,
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Durbin's, Mundo. It was cool for a while but I
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didn't, like, scaring people. I wanted to make them love.
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We would work upon, we would all Like tell jokes that looks silly
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because I didn't want people to run away from me.
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So eventually they said you don't scare people you go away.
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So I got my last bag of hamburger buns with I headed
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down the road shortly thereafter.
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I was hit by a car. The car was my caretaker, they
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took me to their house, they kept me in the garage, they
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taught me proper English, they taught me to read, they Look me
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like a proper music appreciations who Toto play
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video games. So, you know, they taught me a
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lot of things then they let me go.
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The rest is history. So they civilized you a little
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bit more domesticated you as best I could I guess maybe.
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Is this your house called? Okay, so wow.
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So the forests of the border of Germany and Russia hamburger
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buns. Yeah, basically went into a bun
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coma and turned up in the United States.
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Nashville, Tennessee. Don't know how you got here.
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That's quite a story. And and yeah, it's been, it's
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been, it's been a while like just seeing, like knowing that
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but seeing your journey or seeing your, your life story,
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The Saga as it were, The Saga of scuffle Moss will call it, kind
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of play out and continue with the people around the area.
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You know you've I was actually for the folks that don't know.
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I was actually part of a show that you Aimed.
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And I think it was Nashville. One time.
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It was, it was a well, is it was?
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It was a band, Wooten, right? It was, it was like, and I got
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to be a part of that show, and that was such an, it was like a
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story being told. It was very theatrical, you
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know, there was, there was action, there was drama.
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There was, you know, fighting and they're, you know, all kinds
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of cool stuff. Remember that?
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Remember that show. Remember where that was?
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It was at the hiwatt in, that's it.
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Yeah, don't show don't couple months to put together or we
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were playing with while you were asleep the Mod Gear and Knights
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of the road which I am Final Fantasy.
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Cover band. They invited us to play at the
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high. What wound?
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Like I said, it was months in the making I wrote a script or
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your make comics that coincided with it leading up to the show.
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Each then Auto Show, we had actual actors.
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What kind of doctors? We hold a few Franz.
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Who are we little cave rules? One of those roles was Jesse.
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ALT delete' key, which was a ancient Viking who got summoned
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in order to help us fight off an ancient evil.
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Yeah. Yeah, I thought that was cool
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because like, you know, some of the, some of the cast members of
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that performance are still near and dear friends and even
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Brothers of mine who make up our tribe even to this day and so,
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being a part of that and being integrated into that story.
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You know, because of each key, it might be somewhat of a modern
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term, I think, but but it has its roots or has its traces too.
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Roon roon readers and Rune casters and people that work
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with Divination in you know, ancient Scandinavia probably up
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to and during the Viking age after like the conversion period
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or during the conversion period. But it's pretty, it's pretty
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safe to say that, you know, Rune divination, and Magic sorts that
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that, that nature, where evident and apparent in the societies at
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the time. So me being, you know, Pagan and
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Following thing a pagan path that reflects dramatic Heathen
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re having that role in the show was like, Anna Maj to my beliefs
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and it was really well put together.
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I love the story and how it was like we got to get this you
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know, this ancient magician or this ancient you know Viking guy
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or whatever to come in and help us defeat this monster or
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whatever is very Saga. Ask you know what I mean?
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Like it was something that I think you could put together and
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then do a film on which it is. That is that is that performance
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anywhere online? Like in anybody?
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Can we can we find that somewhere?
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Is that is that been taken down to you know, or is it it's okay?
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Roy's of the blood moon, I believe.
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Okay, we're going to find it though because I want to put
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that down in the show notes for everybody to check out because I
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mean, it was a pretty epic set. It was a full set of.
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I don't know how many songs, but Roots, one of them was it.
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Yeah, reach was wouldn't do more.
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We also played a couple of sunshine in the Pharaohs Covers
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Little Red Riding Hood Weebly. we also heard on We played a
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mega church which is one of our heavier songs or another one was
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probably Hot Chicken which is another song that's going to be
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on quarantine sessions. It was a great time.
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I remember getting my workout in that night, it was so yeah.
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We're gonna do my wooden boy website, so that the stories
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that I was telling leading up to those shows, could be kind of
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like food into more of a graphic novel Style.
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Cool. But you got like illustration
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and illustrator or is I use is going to be something like that.
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Where people can. Get a book or or comic book or
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something, like you talked about like a graphic novel and read
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The Saga, or read the stories, is it going to be something like
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that? Eventually.
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Do you think, you know, it's look, don't, I'm preparing it to
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make an actual book for release, but for right now it's going to
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be up on my website for everyone to enjoy right at the end of the
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chapters. If there was a show that
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coincided with it, I usually put the show at the end of it as
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well. Sweet.
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So I didn't realize that you had that that much going on.
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So any social media or any website that, that you, that you
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want to have the people check out, it will be in the show
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notes. So, you know, people listen and
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watch and down in the description.
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The show notes area. Wherever, however, it is that
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you're watching this or taking this all in.
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If you want to find out more about the stories that we're
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talking about and follow scuffle mosses Saga as it were.
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All those details will be there. So however, however you're able
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to get it over to me, you know, just shoot me those links.
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So I can include that, you know, for everybody to check out
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because I'm curious too. I love to follow along and and
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keep track of it. I think that'd be pretty cool,
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it's really awesome. Great.
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Let's do YouTube video. That goes directly to which her
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Performance. They everybody when you're when
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you're listening and watching to this there will be a link down
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in the description show notes area to what we were just
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talking about where I plays the, I play the role of the victim
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who gets summoned to defeat this.
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It was like a monster of sorts. I can't remember, what is what
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it was called. But yeah, it was, it was
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unclear. That's right.
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Yeah. Interesting.
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So Forest trolls have a Like a deity or deities sacred figures,
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sort of to tree whose arms seem to reach up into the sky.
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We would on a moonlit night, specifically full moons or it
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look like the tree was holding the moon.
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So it look like it had the big oil or There was a spirit within
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the tri-dot. I later.
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Accidentally released it, free into the world and that's how
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the whole thing of wouldn't have happened.
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But all, you know, the or God was called Uncle Ranch.
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He protected us, he gave us shelter, would he fiddles?
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But then, upload Moonstruck, everything changed UND down the
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line. Blood Moons have always been bad
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for us forest rules. That's fascinating.
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I didn't realize that you guys had such a seemingly complex
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view of the world because it doesn't, it actually doesn't
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doesn't drift a little bit too much differently than a lot of
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other human cultures. I think, you know, the, the idea
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of there being this, you know, God or Spirit, or something that
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exists in nature for that the the, you know, say the
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sacredness of nature. And I recently got to experience
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something like that where you know the world around me was so
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alive More Alive than I ever got to really experience it before.
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You know, I had, I had a different perception and a
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different understanding of everything around me the the
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Rocks, the leaves, the ground, the Earth, the air, the Stars,
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the moon, just everything. Now the moon I got to say, you
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know, the Moon Don't don't, don't don't don't underestimate
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the moon because I tried to hold.
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Yeah, yeah. No doubt because I remember kind
30:57
of being in my element at the time and this goes back to last
30:59
week's podcast for I was talking with Dingo and Patrick about our
31:03
collective experience, and I remember specifically at a point
31:07
where I was trying to, you know, talk to the Moon in a way that
31:12
was very direct and very You know, almost confrontational and
31:17
I'll II very quickly was like back off, buddy.
31:21
You know, she gets you and I don't know, it wasn't a blood
31:27
moon, but it was, it was it was a few nights away front.
31:30
Well, I'm trying to think now cuz Was this pound trying to
31:33
member this past months Moon. Was a blood moon or it was wolf
31:38
moon, or was some kind of major Harvest Moon?
31:43
Yeah, that sounds, right. But it was the night we were
31:47
camping, you know, it was just shy of a week away from it being
31:53
full, but it was super bright and it was, you know, probably
31:55
about 3/4 full at that time. But very Just, you know, very
32:04
full and very full of energy, full of life, you know, full of
32:08
everything. And so with, like, with, like,
32:12
what you were talking about Scott from Moss with the, I
32:15
don't know, the the spiritual existence of ahn'qiraj and the
32:20
world and the trees and this, and that does do you consider
32:25
yourself a spiritual type troll. You know, since you're so old.
32:35
Excuse me. My wolves are wrong whining.
32:38
Tonight. That's okay.
32:40
They do that from time to time as for spirituality.
32:47
Those times I feel like a hollow husk but, you know, II do want
32:55
to feel like there's something out there.
32:58
Yeah. I know what you mean wouldn t.
33:02
Like I do. So, kind of consider myself a
33:05
heating in the sense that the poetic Edda is where I derive my
33:10
belief system from. Oh really.
33:16
I'm not a, I really like the stories within the poetic adopt,
33:23
are you? I appreciate the call.
33:27
They're kind of liked her doubles in the sense that I
33:32
personally gave you a lot of For he's we do things such as like
33:37
that. The Bible, for instance, again,
33:40
Parables and stuff to learn from your life from your leave a
33:46
good, right? I feel like on the spiritual
33:50
level, a lot of religions accomplish that longing for For
33:58
what, what we seek out spiritually, they filled out
34:04
Vale. Yeah, the exactly.
34:07
There's like that the, the knowing that there's something
34:11
bigger than us, or greater than us, but maybe not knowing what
34:14
it specifically is, and just kind of finding the name or
34:19
something to describe it, you know, whether it be elements of
34:22
nature and or something else, you know?
34:26
And that's the way I kind of see the at is to, you know, a lot of
34:30
what I encounter. And a lot of what other folks in
34:34
kind of the circles that I not necessarily, you know, gravitate
34:39
towards, but see a lot of activity around, a lot of the
34:42
key than Community specifically, I'm talking about, and people
34:45
come into this path or this view of things, and they, they always
34:49
look for something to start with, right?
34:52
They look because I, hey, I'm new to this.
34:54
Where do I start? Which is such a loaded question,
34:57
but so many answers that come to people or, oh, you know, Read
35:02
the poetic Edda, read the pros at a read this, you know,
35:05
stories and stuff about the gods and their adventures in there
35:09
this and that. And I'm always like that.
35:11
That's great for that, for that purpose, you know, because like,
35:13
I like you were saying, like, they have morals and things that
35:21
you can kind of glean from, you know, when you know, Thor loses
35:25
his hammer and has to dress up, as Freya, to win it back, or
35:28
when, you know, he has to kind of With him and Odin Odin as
35:36
Harvard. You know, ties, he tries to get
35:38
across the ferry because he has things to do and in Harvard is
35:42
kind of giving them the shit as it were.
35:44
So many of these stories are are great, but they don't really
35:47
Encompass Heathen, re the world view, the the Customs, the
35:50
Traditions, the spirituality aspect, they're great for the
35:54
what they are in the terms of just kind of learning about the
35:57
nature of the gods, or the nature of the Sacred.
36:00
And, you know, What kind of? Things you can visit, you know,
36:05
they have very similar aspects of humanity attached to them and
36:10
in ways, you know, their diabolical, they're they're
36:14
sneaky, they're they're treacherous.
36:17
They're passionate, you know, all these human type feelings
36:21
and things that we that we feel from time to time.
36:24
It's relatable when put into two stories, but now they're the
36:27
gods, you know, and they are so much better than us or they're
36:30
bigger than us. Reality speaking, you know.
36:33
And so we can Even though they are that, and they still have
36:37
this like, relatable things too, that we can pull from.
36:41
And that's where I see that the stories like the Ed is that are
36:45
in the Ed. As you know, have value.
36:48
They Don't Really teach us a whole lot about what it is to be
36:50
Heathen, but they teach us a lot of neat and valuable things to
36:55
glean, from just a, how to be a decent human being, you know,
36:58
how to be a good person and then you know the Hall of them all is
37:03
another. One that a lot of people try to
37:07
compare to like the biblical Book of Proverbs, you know?
37:10
If you follow this you'll be a good Heathen because of the
37:12
ethics and values that are just inherently.
37:17
Or that are pulled from there but they're not necessarily just
37:20
Heathen values. They're just like, hey, you
37:21
know, you want to be a good guest, you want to be a good
37:24
host, you want to be wary of where you go.
37:27
You don't want to leave without protecting yourself.
37:29
You want to know all these very like, very practical things,
37:32
right? That just don't necessarily have
37:34
any roots in Heathen ring. They just tended to.
37:38
They were the kind of the The basis of a society or loose
37:43
basis of a society, I should say, not even the full basis of
37:46
the society because the society at the time was much, it was
37:49
simpler and it had a very, you know, tribal structure built
37:55
around it. So, But that's neat.
37:59
I didn't know that about you that that the Ed is were so
38:03
intriguing to you. I remember that I think the the
38:06
time that we came over or that I came over to the caretakers
38:09
house and we did a story time video together way back.
38:14
When like I said we said at the beginning of the podcast I think
38:18
I recited it may not read verbatim but I recited like my
38:22
own version of of of a story from the poetic Edda by recall.
38:29
Might have been yeah yep. Yep.
38:37
When he has to sacrifice his hand for the for the gods
38:43
because nobody else is willing to do it.
38:45
And yeah, that's always a popular one to beauty.
38:50
Salon is he Noble is a he's one of the as a very interesting
38:58
figure 2. because a lot of the A lot of the old Germanic and I'm
39:05
talking like older than the Scandinavian.
39:10
Talking about like Mainland Germania predating Christian
39:13
time like the Christian conversion periods predating.
39:15
The the Viking age even older than you the way, way, way older
39:20
than that, they tear had, you know, comes from different
39:27
names. There was tear as is like the
39:29
old Norse name. But there's two and zoo and and
39:33
and some of these other Germanic names that are, it's derived
39:38
from as being the principal or chief.
39:40
God of that, Pantheon of that. You know, Society at the time,
39:47
it wasn't, you know, most nowadays it's largely accepted
39:51
that, you know, Odin is the all father and he's the chieftain of
39:54
the Gods and of the aesir Gods. But Nah, I don't think it was
39:59
always that, you know, and a lot of Scholars and a lot of people
40:03
that are studying things. Now, believe that tear was that
40:09
Chief God roll, there's a lot of mystery surrounding him.
40:12
We don't know a whole lot about him, other than some of the
40:16
traits, and the other thing about fenrir and and stuff.
40:19
But like the actual origins of tear and a lot of allegory and
40:27
mystery. Round again, but he's definitely
40:30
a God of nobility. I think, you know, God of kings,
40:32
and God of Justice and right action, and all that kind of fun
40:37
stuff. You know, like to, you know, he,
40:42
he tends to be the one that stands for what's good.
40:46
What would a good person should do in order to conquer certain
40:53
things? But wasn't he also a form of a
40:57
God of War? So yeah.
41:06
You know, he's just one of those God's thought.
41:08
I feel represents a overall. Good God.
41:13
Yeah, one of the other. You've been on the rhetoric
41:18
Rabbit Hole podcast before right you know, Alex and then all
41:21
them. He's one of my best friends.
41:23
Yeah. If good people and he's been on
41:26
the channel before and I've been on the on their podcast and I
41:30
need to get him on him in that crew or whatever over here on
41:35
one of these podcasts one time, they could be a neat like
41:37
Roundtable thing but we did a we did a thing on his podcast.
41:42
One time is me and and Dingo and forget who else?
41:47
but anyway, we talked about tier because he had a lot of
41:50
questions about him as well as another god of You know, but I
42:03
think it was was it we were talking about who's he was tear
42:06
and might have been balder or Braga that was brought here.
42:10
I think we were talking about which proggy.
42:12
I did a video on him earlier this year and he's a pretty
42:19
interesting God to, but he Alex from from the rhetoric gravel
42:23
and the whole point was bringing him up.
42:25
Was he shares a similar? Adoration, and appreciation?
42:29
I 440 or and at least the values surrounding, you know, a figure
42:34
like that because again, it's about what's doing what is good
42:40
for the overall good of the collective.
42:44
Even if that means a sacrifice of yourself, you know, or
42:49
putting yourself out for the better for the betterment of the
42:53
group of the tribe as it were, and I think a lot of us can
42:57
relate to that and, and appreciate that.
43:00
At Noble nature. You know another another parts
43:04
of tear that I think of two is you know it's he had to he had
43:10
to he was willing to and he knew he had to pay the Shield or pay
43:14
the price or whatever because in the stories he's the caretaker
43:22
for fenrir you know and I feel like at that time when the whole
43:25
thing went down in the story where tear had his hand bitten
43:28
off by the wolf. You know, it was because there
43:31
was betrayal and I feel like fenrir was was felt betrayed by
43:36
his caretaker and I can't imagine, you know what that?
43:39
I think a lot of us can but just that feeling of betrayal, the
43:41
person that you, you know, had your life pledge to, you know,
43:48
betrays you. And now I got to take something
43:51
of yours as payment for that betrayal.
43:54
So it's a bit of a, you know, like it really hits home.
43:58
I think for a lot of people to think About it along those
44:00
lines. But again, tear and his Noble
44:02
Deeds was not knew what had to be done and he knew that it had
44:07
to be done for the good of others.
44:08
And he was, he was the first to step in there and do what had to
44:14
be done. take that necessary action, even when it was hard to
44:20
do, or, I mean, Lost his hand for goodness sake.
44:24
You know the story properly friendlier kept breaking free
44:33
from his bindings. Yes.
44:35
Who tear or rather the issuer God's heart the dwarves.
44:40
Make a ribbon that was unbreakable because it was made
44:47
of impossible things. So here was the only one willing
44:52
to go in. You trained him again which win?
44:56
It did not break. Then real got upset with a
45:00
Honda. Yep.
45:01
He look like he did to Han defeat them.
45:04
Yeah because I mean he's like dude you know you raised me from
45:08
a pup basically you know like I was I was the one that you were
45:13
given to take care of and you do this to me.
45:17
Let me take that hand from me, bro.
45:18
You don't need that anymore. Yeah.
45:23
And it's a different sort of sacrifice, you know, because a
45:25
lot, like I said before, a lot of a lot of the Adoration that
45:30
that people find in the gods is with owed and, you know, and the
45:33
chieftain of the Gods. And of this, he gave his eye for
45:37
wisdom and he, and he hung himself from yggdrasil for nine
45:39
days and nights, and their sacrifice to that too.
45:42
But he sacrificed himself to, he sacrificed himself, to himself
45:48
to gain things for himself. And one could argue that what he
45:51
was trying to gain was too. You'll be wise and didn't be
45:55
knowledgeable so he could lead the aesir and he could have all
45:57
these great gifts that made him a great God or a great leader.
46:03
But I feel like those those actions still had his own desire
46:08
you know? I mean he was still like I want
46:11
it I want it and I'm willing to give anything for it so it was
46:14
you know not as seemingly selfless as the whole tier
46:18
thing. Like what did tear have to gain
46:20
from losing his hand? Nothing nothing personally.
46:23
Nothing to gain from that. It wasn't like, Odin giving up
46:26
his. I like I get all this wisdom.
46:27
Now we're all this knowledge and then, you know, hanging from the
46:30
tree, I learned the runes and the Mysteries, and all this of
46:33
the world and whatnot that was, you know, stuff that he gained
46:37
to him for himself. And when tier does, what he
46:45
does, there's no physical game, there's no monetary real game,
46:49
he literally lost his hand, but it was for the good of the
46:52
others. I was like, hey this wolf needs
46:54
to be kept Under Wraps because he's going to destroy us all.
46:57
And I'm the one that he trusts, I'll bind him and then when tear
47:02
another fenrir rather realizes that he'd been duped, you know,
47:06
he'd been had, it was time to pay that pay the shield as it
47:10
were. So again, that story itself is
47:14
in the poetic Edda and a lot of folks listening and watching her
47:17
familiar with that story and probably have a More favorite
47:22
stories in the poetic Edda but that's one of one of your
47:24
favorites is one of mine but it has a very valuable lesson.
47:29
I think to be learned from it again, not just from a heathen
47:33
perspective, just from a You know, don't don't take on more
47:38
than you can handle. Don't don't promise more than
47:41
you're able to to deliver. And and when the time comes that
47:47
you've taken on that responsibility or taking on that
47:51
role and if you have to, you know, pay up, don't don't
47:57
withdraw your hand. Take you know, feed the wolf as
48:00
it were, it's a pretty it's a brutal lesson that can be. you
48:06
know, I can be learned from time to time so, I definitely take
48:12
it, but What else have you got going on in your projects?
48:17
Anything? Anything, besides the, the
48:19
upcoming quarantine, what did you call it?
48:24
Quarantine quarantine sessions. Yeah, well, I also noticed a
48:28
paint chart, also, a graphic artist.
48:35
I have been helping out with weirdos a podcast.
48:41
They let me design the logo Woods.
48:46
He came up with their theme song that plays at the beginning to
48:50
the end of the show. For really you'll the rabbit
48:56
racer. Is it the rabbit brother
48:59
rhetoric Rabbit Hole weirdos, a podcast weirdos podcast, okay?
49:11
I don't remember his last name but his name is Colin, okay?
49:15
Clearly, they have a podcast where they tell stories about
49:23
things that have happened in their life and how it relates to
49:27
the topic of the day. So I really liked their first
49:32
season and I was advertising, not always looking for.
49:41
Jobs to do which they took me up to do a couple of graphic design
49:47
which music things. So I hope 2.0.
49:53
Like I said I've been working with Victor Tory for quite
49:57
enjoying those two, we do. Oh yo I from time to time I do a
50:10
Felt puppet show. Nice life lessons, really or
50:17
not, they're just kind of, you know, not learning my lessons by
50:24
doing stupid things. His name is cheese or supplies.
50:45
With Jesus lyse e. He is the savior.
50:50
Everybody gets one. Praise Jesus.
50:54
Please chief. So let's say we've got, you got
51:13
your website that we're going to plug.
51:14
We got the YouTube channel and you said Instagram, right?
51:17
So all that stuff for anybody that wants to follow along and
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and keep track of The Adventures of scuffle mice here, you know,
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check out the description show notes area, wherever and you
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know, click follow, like, subscribe, whatever.
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And yeah, it's, he's got a lot of fun things going on and we're
51:37
looking forward. I know.
51:38
I am at least. Looking forward to quarantine
51:42
sessions. So when that does come out you
51:44
said it's going to be February 11th.
51:47
And is it just digital releases? Yo it's going to be digital
51:52
release on bond. Comme une to going to be putting
51:56
it on Spotify or for music as many places like home just to
52:02
you know put more fun is equal to right and that'll be
52:07
announced how will you announce that through your website or
52:11
their your Instagram or do you know yet?
52:14
When Natalie Instagram, more than any other site, I don't
52:20
really even go on Facebook. I hope Facebook pages for those
52:24
coveralls, front club with four, wooden boy, but I don't really
52:30
use Facebook. Everything I do is on Instagram,
52:34
but then I also have two websites died.
52:37
Updating whenever right? You like great perfect.
52:42
So that's plenty of stuff for Able to keep track of you with
52:45
and follow along the stories and what projects you're involved in
52:49
and how well, they can support you.
52:51
So yeah, everybody check out that stuff.
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That's top them off as got going on and stay tuned for the
52:58
quarantine sessions, that will be released digitally on most of
53:01
your major, you know, streaming and listening platforms.
53:04
February 11, 2010 T2. So that'll be a nice way to
53:08
start the new year, you know, so great.
53:13
I think that I think that just about wraps it up here if you
53:16
want to just stay on with me a second while I wrap the podcast
53:19
stuff, while tie things off with you after we stop the the
53:23
podcast session. But any final, The Parting words
53:28
that you'd like to leave with the people listening and
53:30
watching. To speak for yourself.
53:35
The, you know, a wise person in your own judgments, try to be a
53:43
good person because you know, you can't you can't do life
53:48
alone. It really doesn't work.
53:51
You've got to be a good person. If you want to get along with
53:55
people also just keep on scuffling.
54:01
There it is. I was hoping you were going to
54:03
say it. I was like, there's something
54:04
about keeping on something. I keep on scuffling.
54:07
There it is. So yes, keep on scuffling
54:10
everybody, whatever that is for you, you know do right by the
54:13
people around you and love one another man but yeah, thank you
54:17
Scott, for Moss for taking time out of your day and hail and
54:21
good health to you and hail and good health to everybody else.
54:24
Out there and until we all talk again school.
54:30
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54:32
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