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TSH Ep. 16 - A Guest, A Gift & A Guess · The Skol Hop

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All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of The School
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Hop We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer,
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we like talking about the Vikings. I'm Heavan and I'm Austin and we've got
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a special guest over here joining us for the second time, Forrest the Bears
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fan. The welcomes fan. Thank you, thank you for the second time.
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You're You're always welcome on the School Hop Forest. We appreciate having you
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here. We don't like having you here when your team beats our team,
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but you're we like you better than we like the Bear. So I'd like
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to take credit for that, But nothing to do with it besides my rooting.
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All right, did you have anything to do with the fact that they
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didn't score a touchdown? No, that's basically the Bear's philosophy, I think.
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So that's fair. That's fair. Well, we got to talk about
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the beer we're drinking. Yeah, so hopefully you've already checked out our TikTok
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where we did our first taste of the beer. But tonight we've got the
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Big Grove Arms Race. That's what it is, right, Yeah. They
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describe it as an American strong pale ale, and if I were to describe
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it to listeners who haven't tried it, I think like you think of like
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a citrusy ipa and how it's like a summer It kind of makes you feel
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like summer. This is like an amber e ipa that kind of fits really
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good in the fall time. And because of that, I thought it fit
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really well with both of our palettes. Because you're you really like the ambers.
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I do too, but you're you're big into the amber darker beers ye,
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and I'm big into the i pas. So this kind of hits the
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best of both worlds. It sure does. What are you thinking of it?
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I'm I'm liking it a lot. It might find its way into kind
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of my like top ten maybe Forrest. What do you think of it?
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It's it's a classic ip I. I'd say it's one of those that are
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is made. I think you're around by big growth, so I mean indulge
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all year round, but but you do have a good point. It's more
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of those that fall taste. So yeah, And just to remind everybody who
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obviously everyone's listened to every single one of our episodes so far, and thank
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you guys for doing that, by the way, that's really hopeful. But
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in case you missed Forest first episode, we mentioned how Forrest is not only
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a bear span, he's also a Michigan wolverine span, probably a bigger wolverine
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span than a bear span, much bigger. But he's also a bit of
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a beer connoisseur. He has he's dabbled in the brewing. How he's a
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pretty good beer brewer. But he has really good beer opinions and opinions that
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I respect highly. So if Forrest says a beer is good, you can
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take that as concrete word. Well, I appreciate that. I mean,
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I feel like put up to a postal that I can't get up to.
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But no, I've have had a lot of beers and a lot of beers
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with Austin, a few with Evan and uh and enjoy having having beers on
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the skull hops. Yeah, school, Oh, can we reach each other
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here us We're just gonna pretend, but we'll talk about this beer a little
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bit more towards the end after we've had a couple and Uh, so far,
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I think we all enjoyed a lot. Good job, big Grove,
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you brought me something I did listeners. It was Evan's birthday recently within the
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last week since the last episode we recorded, and I found a really good
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deal on something I thought Evan would enjoy quite a bit. And I left
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it up to him whether it would be on the podcast or not, and
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he said, let's do it on the let's do it live, Let's do
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it on the podcast. So whenever you're ready of open up your birthday,
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do this. You did not have to get me anything. I'm a little
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worried now because you've said a precedent and your birthdays around the super Bowl so
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nobody, nobody can take it better. Are not going to be a gift
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for me? I would never I don't think I would accept that unless you
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said they were free. Look at this, all right, he has pulled
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I know what this is. He has pulled out the the present. He's
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unwrapping the the actual wrapping around it. Describe this as you as you pull
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it out and open it up. Well, I think this comes from our
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many conversations about how I don't have a jersey currently. Yeah, adult size
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jersey, So I will say the one you're holding is large, adult size,
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so maybe a shade big, but it will fit nicely or over top
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like a Yeah shirt, and it's a Theeling jersey. Yes, and I
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think correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure we talked about what
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jersey we would have if we could pick one, and I think I said
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Adam Theelene in one of our first episodes. It may have been our first
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episode for all I know, it was our first like unreleased, it could
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have been the Yeah, the one that we never published. But yeah,
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I did say if I had to get one Vikings jersey, and it was
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before he was traded. I think we've only ever recorded after Theelin has been
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away from the team. Maybe not already on the Panthers, but I think
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our first episode. Anyways, Well, this is this is pretty awesome.
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Thanks man. So just to let myself off the hook a little bit.
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It. As you know, fans may know, jerseys are very expensive,
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but once a player leaves a team, those jerseys get a lot less expensive.
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So this definitely entered the realm of budget of getting a friend Doug gift.
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So don't feel bad about that. This is great. It's a little
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big, but wear it proudly. When you wear that's a happy birthday.
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Yeah. Thanks I appreciate that. Happy belated birthday. That is super cool.
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It'd be awesome to get it signed. That would be cool, Adam
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Thielan, if you're listening, we have something for you to sign that we
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won't sell any bay, I say we it's Evan. We'll put it in
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the school Cave here. Yeah, the school cave. You're adopting the name.
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I love it. The school Cave. That's what this is known as.
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Now, So I may am a lull of shock that you had never
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had or you had had a jersey, not as an adult, as a
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child. I had and I still have a Dante Culpepper jersey, and I
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have that Robert Smith signed jersey that I've had forever. Evan says that because
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he's pointing behind us, if you're listening to us audio, you won't see
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it. But we are releasing this video on YouTube and I believe Spotify.
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Yeah, Spotify and YouTube you can watch. So if you check us out
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there, you can clearly see the Skull Cave in all its glory, our
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pretty faces, but also Evan's awesome display case, which features a Robert Smith
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jersey. Yeah, I am not a Vikings fan, and it is a
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very cool showcase of Vikings memorabilia. So oh yeah, we're only hoping to
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add to it as we go. Yeah, like Kirk Cousins, we could
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probably find a spot for a Lombardi Trophy. Ours would be replica. But
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who knows? Is there a Lombardi for podcasts? I don't know. We
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should make one. We can declare ourselves the Lombardi podcast winners. Come on,
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we'll make one. I think you got Wim the Lombardi Trophy to reference
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it. But well we're on our way. Let's stop there, all right.
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Well, Austin and I don't really want to talk about what happened on
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Monday night, but it's kind of our typical episode to talk about the Vikings
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game in retrospect as well as look ahead to next week. And seeing as
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there is no game this coming week for either the Bears or the Vikings they're
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both on buys yep, I guess we have to talk about it at least
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for a little bit. I just want to start this off on a good
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note. I want to say I was right, you were I predict this
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game pre season. We had I think it was episode three, and maybe
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you even mentioned it on episode two. We picked every game of the season,
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and we talked about our locks to win and our locks to lose,
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just our personal opinion on the games that they were for you we're gonna win
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and the ones for sure lose. I can, off the top of my
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head think about the lock to win that I chose, but I know the
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lock to lose was this Bears game. So I take as much pride as
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I can in correctly guessing the lock to win lock to lose. You've only
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picked one game incorrectly, right, That's true. According to my preseason picks.
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The only game I have picked incorrectly so far was Week one against the
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Buccaneers. I said the Vikings would win that one. They've lost. They
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lost that game. But other than that, I think I'm perfect. Yeah,
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your game for game other than the bus So you were picking your team
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to be six and six at this point, yeah, I believe. So
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we have it right behind me. I think one, yeah, the one.
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Yeah, you're right, You're right, Okay, And I actually I
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think I was a little more optimistic. I was like eight and three at
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this point going into the bye week, So yep, yeap. The coin
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was very optimistic. It had a set like nine and two, or the
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Coin had on like an in game win streak at one point. That was
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fun. Go back and listen to that one. I think it was episode
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three. I was gonna say, Austin, I mean, I think you
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had more faith that the Vikings were going to lose than most Bear fans,
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that the Bears were gonna win this game. So well, heading into the
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game, you know, a week ago today, I was, I mean,
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it was convinced, you know, this is gonna be a Vikings win.
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Evan On early on in the live stream, I think, even before
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the game officially started, said he predicted the Vikings to win twenty eight to
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fourteen, and I didn't disagree with him, But man, the Vikings took
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offense to you picking them to win. They did not win twenty four to
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fourteen. They scored one touchdown and the Bears didn't score any touchdowns and they
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won, which is hard to do, Which isn't I mean that I'm not
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even president. I mean, I don't know what the stats are on that,
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even not just this season but overall in general. It's not an easy
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task. Yeah, So, considering weather was not a factor, I mean
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no, so it was just gravity, the pasture not fell back to earth.
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And uh, the Vikings were terrible. I don't want to take too
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much credit away from the Bears because they won, but man, from my
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view, it's just the Vikings couldn't get out of their own way. They
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couldn't make correct decisions. I mean, yeah, the Bears had four interceptions,
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but Dobbs made those not the hardest interceptions in the world. It could
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have been five. It probably should have been way more than one that Jalen
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Johnson dropped. Oh yeah, I picked six pretty it looked like and not
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the one where Fields was in the background and looked like you. Yeah,
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it was almost the I wouldn't say the easiest, but he read the route
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and it almost looked like he had eyes for then zone before he made the
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catch. Though, Yeah, which I mean, who wouldn't I would if
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I was not in my physical shape and in the ability to play in the
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NFL, I'd be super excited. But yeah, it was just a frustrating
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game as a Vikings fan, I'm sure it was frustrating a lot as a
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Bears fan, so so yes, I mean it's not what we don't expect
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as a Bears fan, I mean to go in. You know you're expecting
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to lose, first of all, I mean, with the season we're having,
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but you had this idea that we're going to at least be competitive with
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with the way we played it against Detroit, you know, the week before
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we looked decent. Defense. Looks like it's definitely coming together. I mean,
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but in typical Bears fashion, you know, especially when you guys scored
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that go ahead touchdown, it felt like another, Okay, the Bears are
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doing this on purpose because they want draft position. I mean, that's I
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think that's the only normal thing you can think of. How do you play
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so dominant but only come up with I mean in the end, twelve points,
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but well alone nine points. But when you guys took the lead,
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it just it felt like, how is that possible? So yeah, somebody
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in our live stream, was it Joey or JK, was saying kept saying
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over and over, Bears are gonna bear. Yeah it was it was JK.
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He's a brownspan He's been in both of our live streams so far.
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But yeah, he just kept saying, don't worry, like the Bears are
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gonna Bears. Like eventually they're gonna they're gonna throw it away and justin fields
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are we one? He fumbled twice in critical moments, and that last fumble
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he had should have been the seiler if not for Koc's very blatant poor I
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describe it as his ability to like play the game of football like the actual
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chess, you know, I and the sky aim of football. He's he's
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not great at that. He can analyze every play, he can read defenses,
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he can tell the quarterback exactly what to do, but when it comes
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to clock management and timeouts and like strategy of what place to call where,
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it's showing that in critical moments. That's a week weak point of his game
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and he needs to get better at that. I would say too. There
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are a lot of penalties down the stretch for the Bears, oh throughout the
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whole game's I mean, and I know, you know, I didn't debate
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you know, one one call that the rest made obviously or blatant past interference
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holding calls on on the Bears. It just was funny that the majority,
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at least in the first half of year, first downs came from Bears penalties.
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I mean, I mean, it just was one of those type of
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games where we we had your number, but we couldn't. We we just
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couldn't couldn't come up with how to stop you completely. So our best option
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was take take the penalty yards and then live for another series. So I
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think, if I remember, the Vikings had three total first downs at the
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half, two of them were penalties and one of them was earned, and
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it was a rushing first down. And I think it was just crazy that
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Dobbs that rushed for like, oh, I don't remember twenty one yard rush
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at one point Madison had a big breakout run I remember, but ye.
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Anyways, yeah, I agree with you too. Austin and KOs really struggled
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to call the game, and it wasn't just in the fourth quarter. I
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think it was all game long. I don't think he knew how to respond
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to Dobbs struggling like he did so, and I think I said it on
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the live stream. It almost seemed like because that that first game that Dobbs
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played, he didn't start, but he played a lot of the most of
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the Atlanta game, and after that week they were kind of saying that,
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you know, in the ear piece, Koc would tell Dobbs what words to
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say to the rest of the huddle, and then they would break and as
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they were going up to the up to the line of scrimmage, in his
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earpiece, still Koc would be telling Dobbs like, Okay, this is what
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that play means, and this is what you're gonna see. I wonder if
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I mean, Dobbs has been there, what a month now something like that.
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I wonder if that has kind of gone away a little bit, because
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you would assume Dobbs is at least a little bit more comfortable with the playbook.
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Obviously not all the way good. You know, you wouldn't expect that
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a month then, But maybe there's something he he's a smart guy, like,
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maybe there's something he has learned and they've gotten to some sort of a
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rapport on like okay, you know this now, so we don't have to
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be as detailed in that pre snap ear piece. Total speculation on my part.
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I'm just guessing, but maybe they would have had to go back to
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that like all right, let me hold your hand on everything again. Yeah,
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I would say it could be part of that. I also say that
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there's now you know, three and a half whatever four games of film on
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Dobbs with the Vikings. I think the Bears knew that they wanted to cover
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the edge, and they did that pretty much immediacy. These breakout runs by
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Dobbs, you know, to extend plays or or or get a first down
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type thing. So I think that has an advantage. So I think teams
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are starting to not that you didn't have film on Dobbs of four bit with
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a new team, you still have to reanalyze how they're going to use that
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quarterback. So exactly, I think I think it worked to the Bears advantage
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to have that much game film on that. So h yeah, if you
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know you're going up against Josh Dobbs and his way of being special is by
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you know, extending plays or getting out of danger by running around a little
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bit when he has to, you're going to make sure that that doesn't happen.
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Just like you know, if you're going up against a team that has
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a really good running back, you're going to focus on taking that running back
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as much as you can. To your point, Doves had two rushes for
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eleven yards and that doesn't even count the I don't know how many times he
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was sacked. I don't know how many times he tried to run and there
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just wasn't anything there, but officially had two for eleven, which it seems
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like that was his superpower. And once you take that away, once you
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get in his face a little bit, some of those interceptions where he just
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got scared and threw it up. Yeah, it was definitely it was hard
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to watch at times because we just hadn't seen that from Josh Dobbs as a
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Viking in those first two games. I mean, we just saw this electric
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player who could run and throw and was he was fining Jordan Addison, he
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was finding TJ. Hawkinson. He like just developed this instant chemistry with those
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guys, and on Monday Night against the Bears, it's like all of that
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magic just kind of faded away and he didn't have that same chemistry. TJ
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dropped a couple I think in the first half. He couldn't connect with Addison
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at all. That first pass attempt that was deflating, that long attempt.
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I truly respect the play call on that, and the fact of the matter
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is it didn't work. And then you guys really didn't take another big shot
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like that. No, And I couldn't believe I was expecting at least a
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couple more like that, especially, I like, on a after you get
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a first down type play, take a big shot down there. I think
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I was just amazed first of all that you didn't, and then I think
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this was the first game you really I mean, you could say it during
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the Denver game, but this is where you missed. Justin Jefferson, I
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mean, to have another another outlet for him to go to and to take
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those big shots. Those plays take a couple more seconds to develope And you
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said it earlier for us the Bears. I think the defense as a whole
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played really well, but the defensive line just gave the Vikings offensive line and
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in turn, Josh Dobbs fits I think it was I don't know who was
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saying it in the chat. JK I think was saying. Maybe it was
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that other Bears fan that showed up in our in our live stream was saying.
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They were saying, like Montes Sweat has made a bunch of difference for
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the Bears defensive line. That was obvious, and I wrote that in my
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side notes. Is the Bears defense looks strong the last couple of weeks.
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I mean, yeah, they're one and one, but you can't deny they
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gave the Lions some fits. They're all healthy, it looks like pretty much
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now. And and adding Sweat to to this, I think I think right
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now, I mean, Ryan Poles looks like he's trying to to do something
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for for next year, so you have to respect the move. So that
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Sweat trade, initially I was like, what, Like, I didn't quite
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understand it. Obviously he's a good player, but it didn't make a whole
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lot of sense. I obviously that's a move for the Bears for the future.
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Yeah, it'll help this season, but that's more of a building And
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then when they signed him to the long term contract afterwards, made a little
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bit more sense. But yeah, you're right. The Lions game and then
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especially against the Vikings, he's showcasing that he's a really good player, and
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it showed up on the field against the Vikings and the Lions. But I
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don't know, Brian O'Neill, that may have been his worst game all season,
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but that's because Montes Sweat was just eating him alive. You don't have
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a JJ and a Jordan Addison, and really no other receivers stepped up.
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Brandon Powell, the few good pass plays seemed to be him catching the ball.
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He seemed to make not just catching the ball, he seemed to be
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doing some good key blocks though too, for a few plays at least,
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so I'd say, I mean from a value perspective, I mean, yeah,
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or late on in the second half, Hokinson was vital, but pale,
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I think for you guys, was was a good, great player to
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have on the field. So I noticed too, C J. Ham was
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in the game quite a bit, a little bit more, and I think
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that was for blocking purposes. I think it was because Sweat and the rest
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of the Bears defensive line were really getting after it, and so that was
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kind of a like, well, this is a last ditch effort to see
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if we can't figure something out, and it never really worked, even throwing
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our full back in there and just didn't didn't pan out. But yep,
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I mean credit to the Bears. They they figured something out. They game
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playing really well on the defense the Bears. It was a defensive game all
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around, because the Vikings best phase of the ball was their defense. I
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mean, when you end up with a twelve ten game and the winning team
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have a touch and on top of that, the Bears kicker first kick was
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true, it was missed, and the other one, I think the only
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like what did they make the red zone twice? Maybe, but that one
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was obviously right within the twenty. That's when Fields fumbled, you know,
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and blew a chance to get the two possession leads. So mhm, So
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yeah, credit to both teams defenses. I mean they came out and played
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so well. Let's shift gears and let's talk a little bit about the quarterback
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situation. Obviously the Vikings are in a little bit more of a conundrum than
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the Bears. The Bears have justin Fields back now, so I got words,
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but go ahead with it, and we can definitely talk about the Bears
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quarterback situation because I think there are still some question marks there. But the
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Vikings situation with Dobbs playing as poorly as he did on Monday night, really
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raises some big question marks going into the bye week. And you've got Jaron
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Hall healthy. Now. I saw that they released on Manyon off the practice
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squad, so it's really between Nick Mullins, who's now back from IR,
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Jaron Hall, who's now healthy from his concussion, and Josh Dobbs. You
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those are your options at quarterback moving forward. Well, I was a little
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surprised that they didn't make an in game quarterback change for the Vikings. I
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mean, after you throw four interceptions, I don't know how how you can
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have any I don't care if Tom Brady is out there and he throws us
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forth like obviously something is going on. He's not in it. You need
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to pull him out. You need to try to change the look somehow.
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So I I'm of the mindset you have to make the change, and I
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think it's understood. Obviously they haven't come out and said everything Koc. The
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most he said was a reporter asked him, like, what are you thinking
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about the quarterback position? And he said something to the tune of we're gonna
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look at at all options. So that tells you right there they're at least
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open to it. He didn't say, oh immediately, right now, it's
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still Dob's team or anybody. He didn't name a name, but I think
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they got to make the change. And I almost don't care who it is,
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because it's either Mullins or Hall, and I think Hall in his two
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drives showed you something. But to that point, Job or Josh Dobbs showed
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you something too until he didn't. And Nick Mullens he's got some experience starting
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outside of the Vikings and then some experience in the system with the Vikings.
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So I think either could be a good choice. They just got to make
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a change. Dobbs doesn't have it. I did see something on Twitter.
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I forget who said this, and I should have written it down or screenshot
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at it or something, but somebody out there in the Twitter verse today said
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something along the lines of, you know, we forget that Kirk Cousins had
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I think it was seven picks and five fumbles in the first two games of
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the season, well or something like that. I may have my numbers crossed.
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I don't know if you ever had more. Oh, I guess you
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said picks and fumbles. Yeah, never mind. But if that stat is
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accurate, which I didn't take the time to look it up, I just
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believe everything that I see on the internet because it's the Internet and it's true.
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But if that's truly the case, I mean that averages out over a
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couple of games to be about what Dobbs had in one game, So I
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don't know, you kind of have to take that with a grain of salt.
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And obviously Josh Dobbs is not Kirk. Cousins has way less experience and
26:34
is a much different quarterback than Kirk is. But I don't know, I'm
26:40
just playing Devil's advocate a little bit. I agree with you. I think
26:42
a change should be made, or at least they should take a good long
26:48
look at that quarterback position over this extended by week. Oh yeah, and
26:53
make the best decision possible. It's a great point with the stats. I
26:59
mean I didn't realize that either. I mean, I guess as an outsider,
27:03
if you're a Vikings fan, I mean, besides the destruction against Chicago,
27:11
I mean, Dobbs has pretty much won you at least one game.
27:15
I mean the Atlanta game. I'd say, you know, he he solely
27:21
won you that game. I mean the Denver game. I mean, yeah,
27:26
he definitely could have played better, but I don't think he played poor.
27:30
And then obviously he won the other game. I forget who was the
27:36
Saints, thank you. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's a tough
27:41
one. I and I don't say this like just because we got four picks
27:47
off of him, but I would, I would challenge that you keep him,
27:52
you know, at least let him play a little bit, especially with
27:55
Jefferson's coming back. See see what kind of chemistry I mean you got.
28:00
I I think you got more experience with Dobbs than he got obviously with Hall.
28:06
I mean he's a rookie. So yeah, if you're really aiming for
28:11
for that playoff spot, I think I think Dobbs is your best shot at
28:15
it. So that's just an outsider's perspective. Well, we we take your
28:21
ideas and we we to your point though about Dobbs and his play in these
28:30
last few games, if you really look at it, he came in in
28:34
relief of Jaron Hall because of concussion in the Atlanta game early on, and
28:40
he looked rough. I mean from the safety to he had a fumble that
28:47
looked like an interception, but either way it was a turnover fumble. It
28:52
looked really rough early on, and then something clicked. I think it was
28:56
his mobility and he just played fet football and have some really good blocks and
29:00
lucked into some stuff and got really excited and the momentum was on the way.
29:04
So probably the second half of the Atlanta game, he looked decent and
29:10
it was really fun and they won. And then the next game was the
29:12
Saints and they came out and I think in the first half he had something
29:18
like two hundred and twenty passing yards a touchdown or two rushing touch He looked
29:23
amazing the first half and it was a lot of fun. It was the
29:26
passerre notts back again. It was exciting. And then the second half,
29:33
which kind of gets overlooked because the Vikings ultimately won, But the second half
29:38
Dobbs didn't look so great. He only had like forty yards passing in the
29:42
second half. I don't know his rushing numbers, but it wasn't It wasn't
29:47
great. If he played both halves like he played the second half, he
29:51
would have been benched long ago. And then the Broncos game. After the
29:55
Saints game, we're still on the Josh Dobbs high because his overall Saint Its
30:00
numbers looked pretty good because of that first half and the win. And then
30:03
he starts to show some cracks, but it's okay because it's on the road
30:07
and you know, there's a little bit more tape out there, and the
30:11
Broncos have a butt whole eyes quarterback with some pedigree and you know the Broncos
30:18
get paid to yeah, oh not quarterback. Yeah, and then he comes
30:26
and lays this egg against the Bears, and now you're starting, you know,
30:30
the the high of the Atlanta game in the first half of the Saints
30:33
game are wearing off, and we're really seeing what what he is, I
30:37
believe, and I think that's We're not one of those people that I mean,
30:41
they they projected it. I think they said Dobbs before this game was
30:45
zero to four, and the night games, well, as Vikings fansy,
30:49
they projected us. And you know, darn well with with the Kirk cousins,
30:55
you know, Mojo that that maybe maybe maybe it's not a quarterback thing,
31:00
maybe it's a Vikings thing. I don't know. We're no stranger to
31:03
that narrative. Yeah for sure, we know that narrative. Well, yeah
31:06
exactly. But to your point, I know you're playing devil's advocate a little
31:10
bit. Dobbs was not the only player on the field. He wasn't the
31:12
only one out there with a job to do. We mentioned Brian O'Neil.
31:15
The whole offensive line in general didn't look great. Receivers weren't there like Koc
31:22
could have coached better. Really, it's just the I mean, down to
31:26
Ryan Wright, the punter. He didn't. He has not looked great all
31:30
year. It's just they've been winning and it's been masked a little bit.
31:33
So it's not all Dobb's fault. But when you're the quarterback, you get
31:38
all the blame and all the credit, and right now he's getting a lot
31:41
of blame. That's the position. But I go back to I think Evan,
31:45
maybe either one of you guys said it early in the podcast, is
31:48
why didn't you make a quarterback change? I mean especially yeah, four interceptions,
31:56
I mean with three of them maybe in the first half of just like
32:00
I couldn't believe that they want to at least try something new. It just
32:06
kind of blew my mind that I didn't see Jaron Hall either in in that
32:09
game. So, but it's not it's not not my not my problem to
32:15
haveal We'll see what happens here. I mean, it's it's nice that the
32:19
bye week is here and KOC and everyone else can kind of take some time,
32:27
look at some film and figure some stuff out. I think Koc needs
32:31
to take some time and do a little self audit as well of his own
32:36
coaching and play calling, and examine some of those late game Uh, you
32:43
know, we're up by a score or we're up by a thin margin,
32:46
and you know what he's doing in those moments because the Saints game slipped away
32:53
or almost slipped away, the Broncos game could have been won, the Bears
32:59
game could have been one. It's it's been frustrated. It's it's actually kind
33:05
of amazing that the games. And I know it's all about when you play
33:09
team and and who's injured. And I'm not taking away from your your wins
33:14
at all. You have to win when who you play and on a certain
33:16
date. But it's it's kind of crazy that if you were to tell me
33:21
that you'd win against the forty nine ers and and and I would even throw
33:27
Saints in there, because they they were a team you know that I think
33:30
could have could have won. But and then you lose to and now the
33:34
Broncos on the rise, but the Broncos and then you lose the Bear.
33:37
I would have flipped those those four games and said you lose the other two
33:43
and when when those I just it's football is a funny thing. So yeah,
33:46
yeah, definitely is well, even the Broncos. I mean you go
33:50
back to their game against the Dolphins where they they let the Dolphins score seventy
33:54
points, Like, how do you win any games? And ever since that
33:58
is like that's with the slap and face, they needed to start start actually
34:04
playing football. So yeah, yeah, they figured it out for sure,
34:07
or at least in the last handful of games. I mean, they're what
34:12
five wins in a row. I mean she's yeah, they were one in
34:15
five and now they're six and five. What about the Bears quarterback situation?
34:19
How do you feel? Okay, yeah, I keep it short, but
34:22
uh, I mean I've said on the last podcast, I am not a
34:25
a Justin Fields fan. I'm not sold on him. I wasn't sold on
34:29
when we drafted the dude. Yes, I mean the dude is athletic as
34:35
all get out. You can see it in the game we played against you.
34:37
He extended plays, rolling out of the pocket, and then you see
34:44
stupid plays. I mean, everyone fumbles eventually, but to have him be
34:50
aware of the situation, especially the one on like the twenty five yard line
34:53
ball security all you have the field goal, what are you doing so and
35:00
and what hurts. I think the most as as I've seen feels play is
35:06
it doesn't seem like he cares. Like when he does something stupid or makes
35:10
a mistake, he's like, oh well, And and I understand it's an
35:15
emotional game, and I don't want him to be so upset that it impacts
35:20
his play for the rest of the game, But it just doesn't seem like
35:23
he has any emotion. You you look at replays when he fumbles or makes
35:29
a stupid mistake and he walks out the field because he always takes his helmet
35:32
off for some odd reason, and you just see it on his face that
35:37
he doesn't care, and and and it speaks volumes. And I don't know
35:43
if it's just that he doesn't care. He knows he's gonna get picked up
35:47
by another team somewhere. Maybe that's what he wants. I don't know.
35:51
Well, as a Vikings fan, I hope he has at least one more
35:54
game kind of like this where it looks like he's decent, so that the
35:58
Bears get soft or cold feet on drafting another guy. Well, I was
36:02
gonna mention at the end of the podcast of what's next, but I'll just
36:07
say it right now is Ryan Poles has gotta it's it's an audition for for
36:12
Justin Fields. I think for the rest of the season, Ryan Poles has
36:15
got to pull some big data. Is this is this guy or not?
36:20
Because there's a lot of good quarterbacks coming for this draft. Not that I
36:25
want another project, but if you're gonna invest in in the Justin Fields game,
36:34
you're gonna do it. So maybe the Bears can draft your guy JJ
36:37
McCarthy and then you can revel in how he hasn't declared yet. He obviously
36:45
he'll declare when right after they lose to the Hawkeyes, this whatever, whatever.
36:52
But anyway, yeah, I'm kidding. By the way, I want
36:54
to make it clear I don't I will. I will say one thing,
36:57
going back to Justin Fields. You reference Austin that he's our RB one.
37:02
Do you know the stats I pulled on on Dobbs on his rushing he is
37:08
your number two in the weeks nine through twelve he has one hundred and forty
37:13
two yards masson two hundred four but on week nine he was your leading rusher.
37:19
Yeah, oh that make him your RB two. Just throwing it back
37:22
at you to that point, I think Dobbs. I don't have the numbers
37:27
right in front of me. I think he has the second most rushing yards
37:30
on the team. He literally may be RB two, so behind behind Madison,
37:36
I think, and I respect you you calling that out, considering you
37:40
always called Justin Field's RB one, so just had to throw it out as
37:45
the starter. Yeah, it's definitely been an interesting quarterback situation for the Bears
37:52
and the Vikings. I think, yeah, it's it's crazy to think of.
37:57
I mean, at least I think you guys have an idea. Do
38:00
you want to sign Kirk Cousins another year or two? I mean, uh,
38:07
you hope he recovers from from this injury as one percent. I mean,
38:12
I'd never like to see a guy go down like that, but uh,
38:15
you also have to keep that mind he's getting older and will he recover
38:19
as well. So we saw Aaron Rodgers back on the field today, Yes,
38:22
I saw that. I think I'm gonna injure my eyes if I give
38:27
the full effort into an eye roll that I want to give for that.
38:31
The Jets literally have a point four percent chance of making the playoffs. I
38:37
saw that he is not coming back if there's no playoff chance. He just
38:43
wants to he's gonna he wants to beat the medical odds, and he wants
38:49
to be the one that I could have come back. I just, you
38:52
know, we just weren't in the race anymore, so it didn't make any
38:54
sense. I was good if we if we would have made the playoffs,
38:57
it would have been good. That's what he's gonna say on Pat McAfee.
39:00
He's not coming back. I would agree. I mean, there's no sense
39:05
of him coming back and trying to reinsure. Yeah, on a you know,
39:08
he's not gonna be one per percent anyway, but it does make the
39:14
storyline for the off season. What does he do? So yeah, super
39:17
irol You mentioned Forrest signing Kirk after this season, and initially I wanted that.
39:27
I'm a Kirk Cousins fan, but I don't know how much sense it
39:31
makes. Jared Allen came out. I don't know if it was yesterday or
39:36
today. I think he was on a podcast or something, but he mentioned,
39:40
like, yeah, when you're thirty five thirty six like Kirk is,
39:45
and you suffer that kind of an injury in a contract year, that doesn't
39:50
make any sense to throw even I mean, a cheap deal to sign Kirk
39:53
would be like twenty million dollars. That would be most of a full contract
39:59
for a first round quarterback. I mean, I don't I don't think it
40:02
makes sense numbers wise to bring him back when you just don't know I mean,
40:07
well, and the idea was, I mean, there was a reason
40:13
why you drafted Hall last year. I mean, I guess, why draft
40:22
him if you're gonna just sign Kurt, you know. I just I think
40:30
the organization at that point, at least daring draft day, was, Yeah,
40:35
this is Kirk cousins last year with us, and you always acting getting
40:38
cheap obviously, So Evan for this year, what are your thoughts. Let's
40:45
assume they make a quarterback change. Who do you think it should be and
40:50
who do you want it to be? Well, I mean, at this
40:55
point where where we are currently, they're there will be a quarterback change.
41:02
Not to say that, I think, steering away from what we were talking
41:08
about for a moment, I think Kirk could come back. I think there
41:14
is a strong possibility that he does. I know that he's expressed interest in
41:20
coming back. He wants to retire as a Viking. He doesn't really have
41:23
any intentions of going anywhere else. And I think he proved early on in
41:29
the season that he was playing at a high level. Oh yeah. And
41:32
I think the as much as we don't want to admit it, I think
41:36
the Aaron Rodgers narrative might be helping Kirk's case a little bit because we can
41:43
let Rogers take all of the glitz and the glam and the you know,
41:47
all the interviews of Wow, you came back in seventy five days or whatever
41:52
it was, and Kirk can just quietly do the same thing without all of
41:58
the publicity and come back next September play like he was this September. Hopefully
42:07
not like he was in the first couple of games, because he was turning
42:10
the ball over quite a bit, but playing well, playing kind of week
42:16
four or five, six seven. Kirk Cousins, we were, I mean,
42:21
we were saying MVP. He wastory like legitimately entering that terri And he's
42:28
he's always been, I mean, even going back to his days in Washington,
42:30
he's always been under the radar, heavily criticized. He's not He's not
42:37
this guy, He's not that guy. He's not a Tom Brady He's not
42:40
a Russell Wilson, He's not a whatever. And I don't know. I
42:45
think he's still got football in him. I think I think Kevin O'Connell really
42:51
really trusts him, and I think they've worked well together. I think this
42:55
offensive line they've built to protect cousins, I think there's a lot of trust
43:02
to there as well. So I don't know all of that to say,
43:07
I don't know that they make a change per se. I think the change
43:10
is we go back to Kirk next season interesting instead of I've I think I've
43:17
said this before and I would say it again. I don't know that you
43:22
spend a draft pick, at least a high draft pick on a quarterback.
43:25
I know this is a very it's a very quarterback heavy draft class, maybe
43:31
one of the best. But I was having this conversation with somebody the other
43:36
day, like, who's to say that two years from now the quarterback class
43:40
won't be just as good, if not better. You know, why do
43:45
we have to you know, burn everything down, get rid of everybody,
43:49
to bring in a new quarterback when we could keep rolling with something that's worked
43:55
pretty well and then see what happens. A couple of years. I'm taking
44:02
your your cliff notes on. That's what the Bears need to do, is
44:07
they need If they don't want justin fields, they don't need to draft you
44:12
know, someone quarterback wise that has failed them several times. They need to
44:17
go out. They have the money, get a veteran quarterback. Not saying
44:22
Kirk Cousins, but they need they need a veteran quarterback. Pay the dude
44:28
the money and get this to get there. This franchise the Bears franchise back
44:34
on on you know scale here. Then you you get a rookie quarterback that
44:39
can sit, learn and and just just do it that way. It shows
44:47
with the Packers, it shows with with the Patriots. That is i'd say
44:54
the winning combination. Let your draft pick rookie quarterback sit at least two years,
45:04
let them learn the system. Let them just just learn the NFL game
45:08
because it's much different than the college game. You see too often. I'm
45:13
not discrediting there are there are the good quarterbacks. I mean C J.
45:17
Strautz having the phenomenaly you're in Houston would have would have thought that. I
45:21
mean, I thought he was a good quarterback, but I would have said
45:24
that he was going to have the year he's having as a rookie, but
45:28
that's few and far between. I think. I I like, I like
45:32
your idea. I think the Vikings should do it. I just don't know
45:35
if they will with what Kirk Cousins, So you think, do you think
45:38
Aaron Rodgers pulls a Brett Favre and leaves New York and then comes to Chicago.
45:43
I mean, if the money is there, I don't know if Bears
45:46
could could swallow that pill though, well literally open, I mean, I
45:51
mean, I don't think. I just don't think the relationships there to to
45:54
make that happen. It would be rough. It would definitely be worse than
45:59
when Brett Favre came to Minnesota. I think. So. Yeah, yeah,
46:01
we had somebody in our chat. I think it was the the Slav
46:07
Super Slav. Is that his name sounds right. I'm so sorry. If
46:10
you're listening, we love that you're here. Come to our next live stream,
46:15
next game against the Raiders Vikings Raiders. Yeah, but I think it
46:20
was him. He's a I think he said he was in the Chicago area.
46:24
He may even be a Bears fan, but he was saying, like
46:29
the Bears and Packers rivalry is so crazy, and the Vikings Bears rivalry doesn't
46:36
even register to Bears fans, which is fine, it doesn't. Yeah,
46:38
I mean, I'm sorry, but it doesn't. It's like saying i'm sorry,
46:44
I'm gonna throw a or a Michigan comment. That's like saying the Michigan
46:47
Michigan state rivalries as big as the Michigan Michigan Ohio state rivalry. It's there's
46:52
there's no there's no comparison. I mean, it's just not. It's a
46:59
rivalry, but there's two different levels though. Yeah. Well, going back
47:05
to my initial question about a quarterback change, Koc in his press conference I
47:10
think yesterday on Monday or on Monday, so two days ago said something or
47:19
alluded to the idea that any quarterback that's out there needs to be able to
47:23
utilize your now healthy justin Jefferson. They activated him today yesterday, I think
47:30
it was yesterday on Tuesday, they activated him. He's good to go,
47:35
which is awesome. That's super exciting. And it's kind of crazy that we're
47:37
this far into this episode and we haven't even mentioned that. But any quarterback
47:42
that you have starting almost like the biggest aspect of who you choose to start
47:50
is who can best utilize Justin Jefferson, which I agree with he's the best
47:54
player on the team. Justin Jefferson is at least best player on offense.
48:00
I think Daniel Hunter and Harrison Smith may have some some other comments about who
48:06
the best player on the team is, but I'm saying Josh Mentels is awesome.
48:12
I don't think he's best player on the team, but he's definitely amazing
48:15
there. He's up there. But yause they're forgetting that one interception that Kirk
48:20
threw early on in the season and JJ came back and just laid somebody out.
48:23
Oh yeah, cool. I think he could play defense. Maybe he's
48:28
also been out for a while because an injury that defenders probably wouldn't get.
48:34
But yeah, unless you're it is a hamstring, So Xavier Rhodes probably would
48:38
have been out for a thousand years because of that injury. We don't need
48:43
to talk about that. I think you can make the case for either Mullins
48:46
or Hall. Mullins has that he's been a backup but behind Kirk Cousins,
48:52
so he's not going to be starting over Kirk, but he's been in the
48:57
meeting room. He's had his helmet on, listening to everything on every game.
49:00
He has a similar athletic ability to Kirk Cousins, so the offense is
49:07
already built around that. Theoretically. He's really good and knowledgeable in the playbook
49:13
and the ways that KOC wants to play the game. Jaren Hall, he's
49:16
been on the team since he was drafted in April. He also has been
49:22
in every meeting room and he's been a guy behind Kirk Cousins and with his
49:25
helmet on on the sidelines hearing everything. But Hall, I think is a
49:30
little bit more mobile. So that's an aspect of the game that you could
49:35
another wrinkle you can throw in there in your decision of quarterback. So I
49:39
wouldn't be upset with either of those at this point. I would be upset
49:44
if they threw Dobbs out there again. Yeah, I mean, he raised
49:50
up good points. You have so many receiving weapons and I'm not I mean,
49:57
then ad In Hogginson the tight end. It just it just blows my
50:01
mind, actually how many weapons you have. So maybe that is what you
50:07
need, is more of a like a Kirk Cousin's passing quarterback. I mean
50:12
the mobility, yeah, helped you a few few games, but then obviously
50:16
it hurt you against Denver and Chicago. So it's gonna it's gonna depend on
50:22
the offensive line too. I mean, you can't have another game like you
50:27
did against the Bears where they were just Swiss cheese and there were all these
50:32
holes and the quarterback ends up on the ground or throwing interceptions. And to
50:38
that point, not to crap on Dobs even more than we I already have
50:43
this, go ahead and do it. But I saw someone tweet and I
50:46
don't know who it was, that Dabbs mobility and his like liquidity, his
50:54
movement around and outside of the pocket against that Bears defensive line may have really
51:00
put a lot of strain on the tackles for sure. So if you're not
51:07
going to stay in the pocket, it's hard to keep a clean pocket if
51:12
you don't know where your quarterback is. If you have a solid pocket quarterback,
51:15
you know where you need to block, right. If you have a
51:19
quarterback that could out of nowhere be running into you, it's hard to know
51:22
where to block. So it makes your job as an offensive tackle a lot
51:28
harder, which then adds some confusion and then can cause a sack or some
51:34
pressure which leads the quarterback to just throw a willy nilly interception. So I
51:38
think a pocket passer makes a lot of sense in the Vikings offense, just
51:45
because it's more consistent and more predictable for the offensive line and it plays to
51:50
their strengths. It's just when the point when the things fall apart, that's
51:55
when running helps. But only if they fall apart and you have a lane,
52:01
not if you get a little skidtch and you see ghosts. Yeah,
52:07
well it'll it'll be a long week, I think for the Vikings. And
52:13
who do you have for tho after the bye week? Raiders to go to
52:17
Vegas? Okay? Okay? So? And who you say the Bengals.
52:21
They're both away games right on the road. Yet at Raiders at Bengals if
52:27
you're going to ask that questions, And then we've got that three game divisional
52:32
stint to end the season Lions, Packers, Lions. So that'll be tough.
52:37
It's gonna come down to those three games. And we've said this for
52:42
a couple of weeks now it's gonna come down to those three games. And
52:45
now the Packers are kind of right in that mix. I can't believe.
52:52
I can't believe. I can't believe they came and beat the Lions in Detroit
53:00
on Thanksgiving. That I mean, besides the first core, I think the
53:02
Lions played decent, but it is just too far to come back from they
53:07
I just couldn't believe it when I watched that that game. So well,
53:13
you've got some information here from a fan, I a new Skull Hop follower,
53:21
which we're grateful for. Dustin Baker on Twitter today tweeted more of like
53:29
I would say, an educated guess, but it makes a lot of sense
53:32
and I respect the opinion on what he thinks depending on like how the Vikings
53:37
win or lose the next five games, going to the Raiders and the Bengals,
53:42
hosting the Lions, going to Green Bay and then got green Bay at
53:46
home. Oh okay, here's Eve. Okay, So Raiders and Bengals away,
53:52
hosting the Lions and the Packers, and then finishing off in Detroit away.
53:57
Okay. So Evan, do you want to read out what dust And
54:00
Baker thinks happens depending on the win totals? Yeah? So his tweet from
54:04
today said This is probably in all caps, probably how the Vikings playoff fate
54:08
would play out per record in the remaining five games. So if the Vikings
54:15
win the next five games, they win the NFC North, which makes sense
54:17
because they have to play the Lions twice, so you win both of those
54:22
games, you almost automatically are winning the division. If they go four and
54:29
one, they don't win the division, but they get the sixth seed,
54:31
which is where they were going into the Bears game. And now I think
54:36
they've slipped down to the seventh seed after losing to the Bears. Maybe they're
54:39
still in the sixth Maybe. The only reason I would probably disagree with that
54:45
is that Dustin tweeted this out today. True, so that was post Bears
54:50
game. So again, this is a very educated guest on Dustin. But
54:53
well, and I'm thinking through like if the season ended today, like that's
54:58
when you go to ESPN dot com, that's what that's the information you're gonna
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get. Anyway, So four and one, they're the sixth seed in the
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NFC three and two in the next five games they get in the playoffs,
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for sure, but probably a sixth maybe a seventh seed if they only win
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two of the next five games and go two and three. Dustin says they're
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scoreboard watching in week eighteen, which means it depends on other teams. Other
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teams would have to win and or lose for the Vikings to then get in
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one and four, nope, zero and five, hail no. So yes,
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I definitely agree with that assessment of the Vikings playoff hopes here. I
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think the five games are winnable, and we've gone on a five game win
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streak before. I'm not going to say that we will win all five.
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I don't think that's realistic, but I think the tough stretch of the Vikings
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schedule is behind with. I mean, we played Philly, Kansas City,
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and San Francisco in the first eight weeks of the season, So to have
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those huge games behind us and to have won one of them, I think
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you feel pretty good as a Vikings team going into the buy and then going
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into these final five games. I think they make the playoffs. That's my
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prediction. Yeah, as of right now, I think they do too.
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Dustin followed that tweet up by saying, regardless, like if they make the
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playoffs, they're probably going to Detroit or going to San Francisco on the wild
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card weekend. Obviously, if they win the division, they'll host a playoff
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game, but they'd be one of the lower seeded division winners, so they
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would probably only host one. If they win the South would be the lowest.
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Probably. Yeah, so their leader doesn't have a even five secrets.
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Yeah, I highly respect Dustin's opinions there. Again, I know that they're
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probably just it's all probably. You know, it's a highly educated guess.
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So there's no guarantees on what happens regardless of wins and losses there. But
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I think at the moment, and I may be wrong on this, but
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I think at the moment, both the Vikings and the Lions hold their own
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destiny still. Even after the Vikings lost to the Bears, I think if
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the Vikings win out there, they will win the division because that means they
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have beat the Lions twice, they have beat the Packers twice, and they
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split with the Bears. Among all the other conference and division wins that they
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have so far, I think all of that hinges on what is now the
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most important decision of the Vikings season, and that is who starts at quarterback.
57:54
I just think off playbook equity. You have to make the change.
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You have to go with either Mullins or Hall. It's just which one of
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those. And I've said it before on this podcast. I trust the coaches.
58:06
I talk it's technically talking crap about Koc's game management style, but I
58:13
trust him. I just hope he makes a confident Yes we're going with Nick
58:16
or yes we're going with Jared. So so both of you expressed that you
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want to change. So who do you want? Do you want Hall or
58:24
do you want Mullins? Based on what you're given right now? Just just
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what what's your gut feeling? Well, And I don't know, I've seen
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a lot of stuff on Twitter. I tend to maybe land in your category
58:42
a little bit, Austin, like, yeah, I'll trust the coaches.
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I think. I don't think there's a wrong decision necessary. There is.
58:52
The wrong decision is to not make a change. But but but you guys
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both said you want to change. So I'm asking so you guys can split.
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I didn't say that. I didn't say that I wanted Dobbs out.
59:06
I still wonder if for the sake of consistency, for the sake of chemistry,
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for the sake of, you know, giving the guy a chance,
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which we have to some extent, and you know, he's not played well
59:23
the last couple of games, not as well as he did the first two
59:25
games that he played for the press and a half game and a half.
59:30
Sure, whatever, But I don't know. I wonder if that's still an
59:36
option on the table. Do you keep him in there. Maybe it's the
59:42
least popular decision, and maybe it gets a ton of flack on Twitter,
59:45
But I mean, gosh, if you throw dobs in there, who cares
59:50
what people say on Twitter? If we win, doesn't matter if they come
59:53
out at any point and announce, yeah, Josh is still our guy.
59:59
I can tell you right now my personal Austin's opinion. I'm furious. I
1:00:02
respect your your thought process, and I'm not saying anything about you, but
1:00:07
i'd be pretty I'm gonna wager that Dobbs is gonna be the starter for a
1:00:15
week fourteen. I just don't see how your organization, after you know,
1:00:22
let him play for what four games or whatever, is just gonna be a
1:00:28
switch. I just don't see it. I could be wrong. You guys
1:00:31
know your organization better than I do. But I just don't see it.
1:00:37
I would. I would just add one final stat to the quarterback conversation.
1:00:44
Josh Dobbs has two wins Nick mullins as a starter for the Vikings. Well,
1:00:49
he did he start against the Bears last I know? I think Kirk
1:00:53
did. No. No, did they bench the starters? Yeah? I
1:00:57
think one of the funny cool stats to throw out is the Vikings haven't had
1:01:02
a single quarterback start two straight season's worth of games since fran Tarkenton, and
1:01:07
I think that still holds true. I'm pretty sure the Bears Vikings game we
1:01:12
attended lastlast year, last year. Yeah, it was was last last season.
1:01:19
You need to look that up and bring it up next year. I'm
1:01:22
already check that. I think I think Nick Mullen started that game. I
1:01:27
feel like Kirk started and then Nick came in in the second half. I'd
1:01:30
say it's worth it to even pull that up right now and look it up.
1:01:34
All right, Well, even so even if he did, Even if
1:01:37
he did, and I'll look this up, but even if Nick did start
1:01:40
that game in Chicago, Josh Dobbs has one more win as a starter and
1:01:46
Jaron Hall has zero wins as a starter currently, so I think there's there's
1:01:52
some merit there, but the Bears were playing to lose last That was the
1:01:58
number one potentially though. And I'll say, even if I'm correct in saying
1:02:04
Nick Mullens has that one win under his belt as a Viking, it's all
1:02:07
aboot point because yeah, Darren Hall doesn't have as many wins, he doesn't
1:02:13
have as much opportunity, same for Nick Mullens. So you're you're not wrong.
1:02:17
We can't take those wins away from Josh Dobbs. Those were fun.
1:02:22
It was exciting, the pastnot era. Those two weeks was really fun until
1:02:25
it wasn't my if if it made me decide, which don't ever make me
1:02:31
decide. I should never do that. That's why I'm not the coach or
1:02:36
GM of the Vikings. But if you made me decide right now, I
1:02:38
would quick twitch lean towards Nick Mullins. His play style is the most similar
1:02:45
to Kirk Cousins, not saying he is Kirk Cousins, but he probably fits
1:02:50
better offense the system. The longest Kirk started that game, did he seriously?
1:02:54
Yeah? Kirk started and Mullins finished. Are you looking at the right
1:03:00
game? This is last year twenty nine to thirteen. No, is that
1:03:04
the seventeen or week eighteen January eighth, twenty three. We were there,
1:03:10
We went to this game. Bet I would agree with you, Austin,
1:03:14
if you're choosing, I would say Mullins just because in the system the longest.
1:03:22
I mean, what's the worst gonna happen? Yeah, you play him
1:03:25
a series or two and he looks like crap, you put someone else in.
1:03:30
I mean that's true. Uh so I'll eat I'll eat it. I
1:03:35
was wrong. I'm so sorry, faithful listeners to better, I really will.
1:03:40
Don't don't leave just because I was wrong. But I was wrong.
1:03:43
You got me. I was not to get you. No, that's okay,
1:03:46
it's all out of love. I'm just I'm just trying to prove a
1:03:50
point here that you've been smiling ever since. You has more wins than Haul
1:03:54
and Mullins as a starter, And I've been on record saying the only stat
1:03:59
that matters is wins. I don't care if you throw for a million yards,
1:04:01
what were your wins? Like? All that matters is wins. So
1:04:06
to that point, you're right. I still say they need to make the
1:04:10
change. I respect you for saying maybe they don't have to, but if
1:04:15
it was up to me, that would have already been publicly announced. We've
1:04:17
sufficiently gotten nowhere in this debate. We'll agree to agree with my opinion,
1:04:26
or we'll just surrender to whatever Kevin O'Connell, which is all we can do
1:04:30
because we're just three dudes sitting in Iowa and I don't care about that like
1:04:36
two dudes that actually care with KOC. So we just want to put that
1:04:42
on there fair point. Well, we'll probably have plenty to talk about next
1:04:45
week, even though it is the bye week. There will likely be some
1:04:49
news. I mean, well, we'll have to know who's practicing and who's
1:04:53
taking those first team reps, and obviously JJ coming back is a big storyline
1:04:59
as well, so I have plenty to talk about. We don't plan to
1:05:01
take a week off even though the team is not playing. We'll have an
1:05:04
episode next week and we'll keep rolling and we'll look ahead to the Raiders game
1:05:11
in that next episode as well. But we had a little moment on Apple
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1:06:00
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from Enemy territory on I appreciate that he has said skull before. Forrest has
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said skull before one time, and I was there and I will never forget
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it. Usually for what was the context. I'm sure you had had a
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few of those. A few of those had nothing to do with with the
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Vikings being better than the bear or anything like that. Is you still set
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definitely appreciate it, and we'd love to hear from you in any medium a
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I mean, if you're on the internet, Yeah, you'll probably find
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but we can resurrect that. Yeah, I was on my way back in
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The school Hop. That's that's our name everywhere. All right, what do
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we think of this beer? The Arms Race from Big Grove. I've been
1:08:43
nursing mine, have a hole in my mug. Oh yeah there was there
1:08:46
was a whole in mind too. I've been empty since before we started talking
1:08:48
about Dustin Baker's tweets. But it's it's goods. I have very very good
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selection. Yeah, Big Grove does it well. Yeah, so thank you
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Big Grove. We enjoyed your beer. We've had your other beers on here
1:09:00
before. We'll have many of yours again for ust. Thanks so much for
1:09:04
coming on. Hey, thanks guys. I really do appreciate this. Hopefully
1:09:09
next year, if this continues on, you'll have me on for the Bears
1:09:14
broadcast. I do enjoy. I mean I watched the Vikings enough to understand
1:09:20
your love for them. They are a good football team. They've had some
1:09:24
bad luck this year. But I won't say school, but I just did.
1:09:30
Yeah, I said, I won't say it, but good luck.
1:09:33
I mean, I think you're a playoff bound team this year. So good
1:09:36
luck to you guys, Thank you, thanks, And you've been to You've
1:09:40
physically been to more Vikings games than Bears games, at least in the last
1:09:44
years. In the last two years, I have been to more Vikings games
1:09:48
and Bears games unfortunately. So all right, man, well until next time.
1:09:56
Until next time, school school a