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Interview with Robbie Bahr! · The Top 10 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Top Ten Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Josh and Chris here. We have a very special guest
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  Speaker 1: with us, Mr. Robbie Barr. Robbie, welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, guys?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing? Good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Former owner of the Pigpen.
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  Speaker 2: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: People remember that.
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  Speaker 2: Ten years.
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  Speaker 1: You owned it ten years?
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  Speaker 2: Ten years, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's like a hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: I would think everybody in Clinton would remember that. It
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  Speaker 1: was quite the place. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: There is a wave of nostalgia.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I mean, everybody that was there was 15 years old.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, there were kids and now
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  Speaker 2: they're adults.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We're adults.
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  Speaker 2: So I got everybody coming up to me, dude, I
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  Speaker 2: drank in your bar when I was 18.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you love to hear.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't our intention. I can tell you, I went
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  Speaker 2: there a few times before I was 21, but I never.
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  Speaker 1: Drank in there before I was 21.
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  Speaker 2: No, there was a lot of people that did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was there for the show. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And we'll get into that. But I think we
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  Speaker 1: also want to talk about the big data center concert. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And that's on the 13th.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Two to 10 or two to 10. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We had to expand it.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of an all day.
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  Speaker 2: If I could have put 20 more bands on there,
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  Speaker 2: I could have.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There was so many bands that wanted to play it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it seems like there's a pretty good variety.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to make sure there was local bands, but
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  Speaker 1: there is a good variety. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We even have a, We even have St. October.
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  Speaker 1: I just checked them out.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I dig them. I like that a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: like the metal.
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  Speaker 2: He's very against the data center. He's from Clinton, Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. Well, that's cool. And it's about just
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  Speaker 1: getting kind of an awareness out there about what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, I personally woke up one day and
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  Speaker 2: my girlfriend's like, Well, they're putting a data center. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I live here, but I travel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do a lot of traveling. And I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's nice, huh? And I'm thinking in my mind, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a couple acres. Yeah. No big deal. It's a shed.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Because how big can it be? I mean, storage, you
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  Speaker 2: can put a terabyte on. Yeah, tiny. So I really
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  Speaker 2: didn't really pay attention. And then somebody forwarded me one
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  Speaker 2: of Clintonian's against data centers' e-mails saying, And it said
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  Speaker 2: it was bigger than the park and this and that.
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  Speaker 2: I did more research and found it's actually bigger than
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  Speaker 2: central park.
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  Speaker 1: Not just, that's huge.
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  Speaker 2: So that, that freaked me out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, so I dug down deep and here we are.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what I need? I went to
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  Speaker 2: the Clintonians, one of their meetings. Excuse my voice. I've
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  Speaker 2: been practicing.
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  Speaker 1: I've been practicing.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, So I went to the meeting and they
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  Speaker 2: were just, they're wonderful. They know everything about everything. I
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  Speaker 2: do not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. I'm not super informed, but I do
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  Speaker 1: know the size. And just getting some specifics would be great.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe it's bigger than Midway Airport?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.
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  Speaker 2: And it takes up 400 more acres. And then by
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  Speaker 2: the time it's built, we will have a gold rush
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  Speaker 2: of workers, for sure. And when it's built, There's going
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  Speaker 2: to be less than 30 jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's insane.
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  Speaker 2: By comparison, Midway Airport, 54,000 jobs in the same amount
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  Speaker 2: of area. Why don't we just put an amusement park
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  Speaker 2: out there? I'd vote for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd go for an amusement park or a water park.
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  Speaker 1: Or a live music venue again. Yeah, live music venue
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  Speaker 1: would be great.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Who knows, I mean. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, just getting some information out there is great.
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  Speaker 1: So come on out.
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  Speaker 2: 13th?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, come out to the concert. Free concert. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who loves... Yeah, they needed.
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  Speaker 2: They know all about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They needed a little pizzazz.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we brought the music.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is great. Everybody loves music. I mean, whether
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  Speaker 1: you're for it or against it, come out. Yeah, live
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  Speaker 1: music's great. Come out. Get some information.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the way I look at it, every person
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  Speaker 2: who's there is a vote against the data center. Because
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, crowd sizes do matter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Size matters, guys. It does. Aw. So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it's going to be a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's really weird for me to be promoting in the
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  Speaker 2: age of technology. Yeah. Because I didn't have any internet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all word of mouth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, word of mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Posters.
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  Speaker 2: Flyering. Yeah. Just hard work. Oh, yeah. Honestly, I would
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  Speaker 2: have lasted a lot longer if I could just do this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Most of the time, since it's a big band,
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  Speaker 1: I knew because it was on the marquee. You know,
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  Speaker 1: just drive by, oh, they're going to be there, and
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine some of the bands that we have,
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  Speaker 2: like some of the death metal bands or whatever, what
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  Speaker 2: we could have done with this technology.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because, you know, it's not a massive crowd. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to draw from 300-mile radius.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to play anywhere besides here.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So some of those shows were not well attended. No,
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  Speaker 2: I was at a few of those that were not.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Six Feet Under there. Yeah, they played there
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  Speaker 2: numerous times. Yeah, I saw them once there with, I think,
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  Speaker 2: Animal Corpse.
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  Speaker 1: Animal Corpse, yeah. Some of those.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys are, and you know what, they're the nicest guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No rock star attitudes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Very cool. Well. I know you have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of stories, but we won't get into all those, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 1: because you only have.
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  Speaker 2: A quarter of them.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell you half of them. Yeah, I have
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  Speaker 1: a quarter of them. So how did the Pigpen even
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  Speaker 1: come about? Take us way back to the brief little synopsis.
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  Speaker 2: So it came about, so I was in a band
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  Speaker 2: called Rock Pig.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I was just trying to figure out what to
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  Speaker 2: do with my life. And I remember there being a venue, Lassiter's.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And I played there when I was in my early 20s.
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  Speaker 2: And so I went and talked to Dave Holmes. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, what are you doing with that part
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  Speaker 2: of the club? And I went in there. It was exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It had never changed. So you didn't have to put up. No, no,
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  Speaker 2: we did a lot. But when I walked in there,
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  Speaker 2: it was like I walked into a time capsule. And
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  Speaker 2: so ultimately, he let me go for it. and got
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  Speaker 2: me a deal, but I had ideas. So the first
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  Speaker 2: thing we did was, because it was an echo chamber,
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  Speaker 2: it was like a basketball court. So we put acoustic
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  Speaker 2: tile all throughout it. So we had the best, the
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  Speaker 2: sound of it was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So did the band.
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  Speaker 2: And that's one reason they played there. So I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to bring my band over to play the new clock.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we'd do really well and we did. But
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  Speaker 2: when we were doing the murals, because we painted it
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  Speaker 2: with blacklight paints everywhere. Remember that? So the bands would
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  Speaker 2: walk in and just go, what in the hell?
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  Speaker 1: That was great.
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  Speaker 2: So the guy that was painting it, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: spent a lot of time. His name was Watergun, Kevin Lonergan.
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  Speaker 2: He's amazing. And he said, he looks at me one
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  Speaker 2: day and he goes, hey, why don't you book KISS here?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: KISS.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, within a year we had Ace Freeland.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah, within a year.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, who would have known we would have. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember them booking some nationals. Remember O'Leary's?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Here in town.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: So they were bringing these little nationals in. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: how'd they get them? And so what I did was
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  Speaker 2: I called their booking agent. And I got a few
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  Speaker 2: bands from me. He just completely raped me, money-wise. And
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  Speaker 2: then I learned how to book myself. So the more
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  Speaker 2: bands I booked, the more people were cool with bringing
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  Speaker 2: their bands in. Because if you put your band in
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  Speaker 2: a place that's horrible, they will leave you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Your reviews, yeah. Word of mouth travels fast. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, so we did that, opened it, and it
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  Speaker 2: was a smash hit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But it died down. You know, like all of ours.
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  Speaker 1: Peaks and valleys.
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  Speaker 2: So I knew I had to keep, so I started
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  Speaker 2: booking bands. And that's, it was out of necessity.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Pigstock, especially, because we were dead in the summer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No one was there. Well, pigstocks, how many of those
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  Speaker 2: did you do? Twelve. was it 12 11 or 12
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  Speaker 2: the last one was in Davenport was Slayer yeah Slayer
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  Speaker 2: and it was amazing did you book some of the
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  Speaker 2: bands in the Quad Cities too oh yeah so I
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  Speaker 2: booked the district I thought so I booked some you
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  Speaker 2: know I did some booking I should have probably done
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  Speaker 2: more yeah I just got sick of it yeah oh
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  Speaker 2: yeah and then I own Quad City Live oh you
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  Speaker 2: use PC Live I owned it okay so we saw
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  Speaker 2: a A couple shows there, too. We had some really
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  Speaker 2: Killswitch Engage, Shadow's Fall.
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  Speaker 1: We went and seen Mushroomhead.
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  Speaker 2: The Wailers.
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  Speaker 1: We went and seen Mushroomhead, and the opening band was
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  Speaker 1: Avenged Sevenfold.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God, I know.
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  Speaker 1: Before they were anybody.
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  Speaker 2: So Avenged Sevenfold played the Pinkpen must have been three
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  Speaker 2: or four times.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: And he even bartended.
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  Speaker 1: Well, damn.
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  Speaker 2: He bartended. He bartended.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: He got back behind the bar and bartended for me.
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  Speaker 2: It was so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, I remember it. So I worked at
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  Speaker 1: Village Inn right across the street. So a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: the guys would come over and eat lunch and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And Kmart. People in Kmart, when he really went to Kmart,
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  Speaker 2: it caused chaos. He was buying socks. And it just
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  Speaker 2: caused a huge process.
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  Speaker 1: That's a rock star thing to do right go to
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  Speaker 1: kmart you.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to see you don't want an iowa new one.
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  Speaker 1: They did it oh yeah how do you not know
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  Speaker 1: him yeah i had a when you were i think
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  Speaker 1: it was big stock the drowning pool was playing and
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  Speaker 1: it was like an off day from oz fest great
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  Speaker 1: and he came the singer the original singer had come
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  Speaker 1: over and i was like i know who you are
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  Speaker 1: it's cool to meet you and he's like absolutely he's
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  Speaker 1: like are you coming i was like well i don't
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  Speaker 1: get off till like nine he's like oh he was
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  Speaker 1: a He was a legitimate and he's like, I'll put
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  Speaker 1: you on the list. Got to come over after, after
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  Speaker 1: work and everything. He was super nice. And then like
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  Speaker 1: two weeks later he died.
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  Speaker 2: So I got to play with him in a band,
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  Speaker 2: played war pigs and was seven dust on drums. Him singing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, what am I doing?
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  Speaker 1: It was amazing. That's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes being my age now, looking back on it, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it is so surreal. I can't believe it happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any nights where you think, all right,
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  Speaker 2: this place is not going to survive? Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take this place to the ground tonight
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  Speaker 1: because the crowd is just so energized.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were talking about nobody showing up.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. The opposite.
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  Speaker 2: We've had the gamut of emotions. It was a rollercoaster ride.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I booked, remember Accept, Balls to the Walls. I booked Udo,
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  Speaker 2: the lead singer who I I personally love that band.
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  Speaker 2: And he drew me and three other people.
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  Speaker 1: That's not stressful at all.
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  Speaker 2: We have Mick Jones from the Rolling Stones, from the
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  Speaker 2: 1969 lineup. Famous, world-famous musician. He drew 36 people.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. So who's a band that you didn't think
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  Speaker 1: was going to draw, but turned out huge?
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  Speaker 2: Who didn't I think was going to draw? There's been
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  Speaker 2: a few. S.O.D., I did not. I knew it was
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  Speaker 2: in the band, but it was one of those things.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody showed up. Chicago. I mean, it was like, you couldn't.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that Scott Ian? Yes. He sure was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so.
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  Speaker 2: I was what? Sold out. And then the other one
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  Speaker 2: was at Quad City Live. So poor Fall Out Boy
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  Speaker 2: played my bar twice. Didn't know who they were. Didn't
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  Speaker 2: even know they were on the bill until 10 years later.
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  Speaker 1: So they were opening for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were opening for Yellow Card and Goldfinger.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's like.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. So even after all that time,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: because they were slaving away for a long time. And
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  Speaker 2: then I got Quad City Live and the agent says, look,
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  Speaker 2: you got to book this band. You got to take them.
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  Speaker 2: They were a thousand bucks. I'm like... They aren't a
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  Speaker 2: thousand bucks anymore. They're a million. But I mean, nobody
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  Speaker 2: knew who they were, but the kids did. And the
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  Speaker 2: internet was there for them. So I booked it and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I don't even know. I took tickets
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  Speaker 2: over to the co-ops and one of the co-ops called me.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, we need more tickets. I go, what? That
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  Speaker 2: show sold out way, way before. I was, I'm like,
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: hell yeah. Give me another one of these.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love going to co-op and buying, Yeah, tickets
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  Speaker 1: for all shows. It was just a simpler time. It
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  Speaker 1: was a simpler time. Tickets were the ticket price. If
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  Speaker 1: it was $ 25, it was $ 25. There weren't fees.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a little known fact. Pigpen was a
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  Speaker 2: ticket master outlet by the end.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But still, the fees weren't too bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't never remember paying more than $ 20,
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  Speaker 1: $ 25 to a show. I mean, it was great. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a.
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  Speaker 2: Flyer, $ 10 to see the original. The original Nazareth with
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  Speaker 2: the lead singer and drummer. We're dead now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's $ 10. No, I'm sorry. It was nine 97.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Was I insane?
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. Did you know, did you have somebody that
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  Speaker 1: walked in where you knew like these guys are going
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  Speaker 1: to be like an up and comer, but these guys
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  Speaker 1: are going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there was three doors down.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were like before I, it's on my
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  Speaker 1: list of, I have a list of top 10 lists.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we do. So I made a list of
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  Speaker 1: my own top 10 memories of the pig pen from
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  Speaker 1: my own personal perspective.
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  Speaker 2: And they're up there.
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  Speaker 1: Like just seeing what week before tonight came out.
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  Speaker 2: They write him when they were on the stage, it
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  Speaker 2: became number one. I remember him saying this song is
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: about to go number one next week.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And I'm like, this is awesome. And he
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  Speaker 1: played it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I can hear an interesting thing that you
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  Speaker 2: don't think about when you're hanging out with people that are,
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: that are going out with a bullet. Yeah. Sugar land.
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  Speaker 2: I booked them right before the, That was at Quad
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  Speaker 2: City Live. We're doing a hybrid here. I mean, actually,
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  Speaker 2: Quad City Live, so many big bands in such a short.
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  Speaker 1: Period of time.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: We went to several of them. I mean, we had
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: GWAR there twice.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I remember just the sound also. The sound at QC Live.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: It was a really nice system. I was always sound conscious.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: You don't want to suck it into a vacuum. You
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: want the sound to Spread and so everyone, people in
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the front and people in the back.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: And the band's love.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: You know, they're more likely to come back or to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: tell the next agent, please book the band.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Big Ben was amazing. Let's book that again.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: So Quad City Life. So Sugar Land. So I knew
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: my sister was all over their first single. So I
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: knew they were going up, but I didn't realize how
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: meteoric it was. So Jennifer Nettles and me hung out
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: all day. I wanted to marry her. She was so
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: wholesome and sweet and talented. I was, I drove around
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: with her for one hour and I asked her to
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: marry me. I don't blame you. She's, she's something else.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: But I mean, so like in Miranda Lambert, she sure did.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: And I hung out with her. I have stories, stories
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: on her, but I mean, all good though.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems like an absolute sweetheart.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: She's amazing. And when I saw her on stage, because,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you know, at first, you know, when you meet these people,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: they're not in their videos. They're not trying to impress you.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: And you're like, okay. Man, when that girl, when she
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: got on stage, she literally took it over. I'm like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: there you go.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Superstar.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Superstar.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: The queen of country music.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: How did you get, I'm a huge Motley Crue fan.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: So you've had Tommy there and Vince.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to come clean. So the Tommy Lee show,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I know it's listed in Polestar, all in my concert deck.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Never happened.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Wow, really?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Never happened.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Methods of Mayhem work?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could just go ahead and say. Methods
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: of Mayhem work there? No, but Vince Neil was. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: know Vince was. I never happened. Tommy Lee was never there.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: It was booked and I lost a shitload of money
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: because it canceled.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, is that?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. Because the advertising was out. So we do remember
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the advertising. I do remember the advertising. You do remember it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: That's one of the worst. They canceled, like, the night before.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Something crazy. For a small club. You can go under.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: You can go under in a club in a month.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: You got bartenders and security you have ready to work.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, just kidding. For sure.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you see these places that are funded by
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: The government, like, I mean, not government cities.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Like the Redstone Room. Who knows what else? I mean,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: they can never make it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Because of the same reason.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It's very difficult. Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Black label.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Huh. What a story.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: So the agent calls me and he goes, I have
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: so many.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm just, I'm playing the hits right now. Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: The agent called. Do you know anything about the story?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So the agent calls me up. We were very good friends.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And he goes, look, I got Black Label Society. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: there was a catch. They want to use your club
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: for five days before the concert to practice for us.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's what I did. I'm like, right away, I'm like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: bring it. So anyway, we became a rehearsal hall for
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Black Label Society. Zach.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Jack. Yeah, I can't. So before the day of the show,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I came in to buy my tickets at the bar.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And I think it was you. I'm not positive. But
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: somebody was at the bar. And I looked to my right.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Zach was sitting right next to me. And I was like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I was terrified. I couldn't even say hi. He's an
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: intimidating man. Yeah, he's a very intimidating guy, especially back then.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you some more of the story. Okay.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So he comes in. And here's what. So I meet him,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: pulls in, I open the bar for him, whatever. And
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he's like, they parked their bus. He's like, all right,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I need to go to the hotel. So I took
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: him to the hotel. And then two hours later, he
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: calls me on my phone. We did have cell phones.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Big old Nokia.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Was like, I need to go to the gym. So
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I ended up running this guy for a week.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: All over town.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: We got to be buddies. We went to the gym together.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: And every time we went to the gym, because he
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is intimidating, he made me drink two beers.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, why not?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: And they were St. Pauly girls.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. And just, what a, he's a character.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And we ended up, the last night they were here,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: we ended up taking them to Ristrelli's. So Zach Wilde,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: he had Ristrelli's.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: That sounds like those old timers that go to Ristrelli's.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine their faces. Zach Wilde, this giant of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a man.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: People were at Starstruck. A lot of people know who
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very famous. He was playing for Ozzy
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: for quite a while. Well, I'm the kicker on this deal.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: He invited me and my daughter to OzFest. He was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a gentleman. He put us backstage by the monitors. My
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: daughter got to meet Jack Osborne. Oh, that's cool. Because
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: he was huge. She got pictures with him. So my
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: daughter had her. It was beautiful.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Was that in, what, 2002? Yeah, yeah, 2002. Yeah. Okay.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Memory. Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I went to Ozzfest in 01.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: We went to the one at St. Louis.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And then Mushroom. I was there too. I knew a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: lot of the bands. So I'm telling you, I had
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a good time.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I can imagine.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I used to. I mean, this podcast could
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: go on forever if we kept talking about it. Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So was it harder? Because now with social media, I mean,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it's got to be the easiest thing in the world
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to book bands. Yes. So is it harder now to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: promote them? Promote them?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That is a very, so I've never done it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: This is the first one. And this one, I didn't
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: even mean to do it.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I got mad. And I'm like, when I went to
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the meeting and, you know, they weren't being loud enough
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: for me. I want, we need to, we need to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: do something.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So I just started doing this and I, I did
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: go online and I go, should I do a protest concert?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: And everybody's like, Hell yes.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I love that you put on their peaceful protest.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It has to. I will not deal with it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, it's like they're just going to do a big
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: pissing match. It's not going to be fun for anybody.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Just so everybody knows that anything ever happens, I'm closing
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it down. I don't want anything to do with it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: We're going to sit down. I've got acoustic players too.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a vibe.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I like it. It's very exciting. Because live music if
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you're a fan of music, live music, it's clearly the,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's just the best. There's nothing like it. Just sitting
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: there and enjoying it. Like we've been, well, me and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Josh have been to so many concerts together that we've
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: probably forgotten a lot of them because of the pig
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: pen and stuff. We love intimate.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: That's cool. You guys have been there.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Many times. Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I remember really, I was there quite a few times.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I saw, uh, yeah. King's X was one of the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: cool shows.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I saw there. Yeah. When he had his birthday, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: think so. There's so many stories.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Every man, Like Cinderella.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: See? All you have to do is say a name.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Cinderella.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Like you can see the trigger going on.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: The original Cinderella inside the pig pen. A band way,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: even at that time, way too big to play inside there.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: And man.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Tore the house down.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It almost killed the lead singer because he came out
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and he was like, he needed oxygen. It was so bad.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the last one. This was, I wish
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I could have went to it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That was one of them. The greatest shows ever.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: And then they did play outside. They're very cool. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: What was the last show at the thing? Was it
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Faster Pussycat?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Okay. I was there. I was there. I had to
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: go to it because I love Faster Pussycat.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I think I was drunk. I don't drink.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You had to be.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And that night was, it was sad. Yeah. It really was.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was sad.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: To let it go. Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: 0-3, right? June of 0-3, I think.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there. I tried to find it all.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So just so you guys know, I have a list now.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Of every concert. And the date. A lot of research.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And I will give you the PDFs. Because it's insane.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I do need to address something. So when I book
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: this gig. Of course we're not doing nationals. That makes
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: it easier already. But here is the problem. I'm already
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: finding out. So when you're promoting. In your phone. Online.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: You get in your own bubble. It's almost like you're
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: king of wherever. Everybody's just telling you, oh, it's going
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: to be great. It's going to be great. But it ain't.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Maybe it isn't. So as of this week, we're going
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to go old school. We're doing ground game, yard signs,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: stickers on people's houses. We didn't have those back then.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: We do now. Don't worry. They come up easy. We're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: doing everything. I've ordered 300 flyers. No, it's back to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: the two-week. You got to get out there.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: So I don't trust. I do love this. And I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: love everything. It's been great. But I feel like it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: kind of a bubble.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And you could use it as a crutch. Yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I feel, yeah, we're all way too dependent on those,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: on our phones. I know it's ironic saying that because
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: we're recording this on the phone. Yeah. But they're just
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the old school way of doing things. I mean, call
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: me old fashioned and crotchety old man, but it's just better.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It just feels better. You feel more connected with people. Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And I miss that. I miss connecting.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here to say, here's another thing. For
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the data center, I'm not against technology at all.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: No.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm a smart guy. You know, I love technology. But
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: it's like, it needs to be okay.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: People who live in the town, you're putting this down.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You've got to let them know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And with the political climate of the day, I'm not
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: going anywhere there. Nope.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's getting rammed. This just is happening
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: on and off. Yeah, it's happening really fast without enough
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: information being out there.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: So have you had a lot of people from the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: old Pigpen days for the No Data Center Cancer reaching
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: out to you?
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. I mean, so I'm going to tell
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: you guys a secret.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I'm unveiling it here.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: We may do a documentary, a true documentary. It'll probably
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: be pretty big. Because I know I'd watch it. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it. It was some little club in Iowa.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What do they do?
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of interesting.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It is. It would be a really cool story.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's an anomaly. I mean, how many little towns this
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: size had clubs that had bands like that? Well, I mean,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it turned out we did more live music than the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Whiskey A Go-Go.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: For the time period. Because I used to live in California.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: And the Nationals that we had.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: No comparison.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't know. It's something I hope
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I do before I die.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be awesome. That would be very cool.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So you've dealt with metalheads and promoters and agents and
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: drunk people.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: So many.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Is organizing a peaceful protest concert easier?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: To be honest, because number one, we're not even selling beer.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: There is no money made here.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I have nothing to gain. You know, I'm in the hole.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, I had to front the money. To get
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: it going. But people are contributing. And you can go
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: online and do that. And we don't want a lot.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm running this cheap. I even put all the expenses online.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, open book. I like it.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: It is an open book. And I'm putting everyone's names
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: if they want me to. By the way, we do
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: an anonymous, too, because I'm finding out there's people afraid
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: of their jobs if they say they're against a data center.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: That is illegal. Yeah. You can't. Yeah, that's terrible.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, transparency is the number one thing I think
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: they need to be more open.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: About what's going on.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And in this day and age where social media is
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: as rampant as it is. I didn't realize that you
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: couldn't just have an opinion.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Not anymore.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And lose your job.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't. So that is.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Friends of mine. These are friends of mine. And they're
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: still helping me. I honor that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Before we get to our top, tell us, if there's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a band from your Pigpen era that you could resurrect
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: to have one more, maybe play the No Data Center concert.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, Cheap Trick.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Cheap Trick.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Cheap Trick. All the famers. You don't have to resurrect them.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: They're still going. They're still going.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but I mean, the Bunny Carlos.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, talk about old school. Yes. I would love
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: to revive them.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That would be awesome, yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And then, I mean, favorite bands to work with.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It's hard to, I mean, you had eight, you had seven,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you had seven, excuse.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Me, stop right there. Yes. Seven dust. The nicest band
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I've ever told what they played there more than anyone else.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I think it was four, four or five times. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: met them. They were on a bill with Iggy pop
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: and the quad cities. It was something outside with Linda
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Perry was on it. And I went to Linda Perry
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and seven dust and I asked him to come to
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: my club and play. They both did. Seven Dust actually
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: came back to the club after they played. They were
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: on some remote stage and I liked them so much.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I had a very good, I love them.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I've heard they're very nice. They have really good ties
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: with the Quad Cities.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: They really do.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Because of the pig.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Because I mean, they made a lot of friends. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: did that.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: And you might not be able to answer this, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: like I'll ask, is there, is there anybody that was
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: horrible to work with?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Of course. I know that of course there was. So
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: number one, I never even met this guy. Glenn Danzig.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Why does that not surprise me at all? Evidently. So,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: so I'll tell you the story very brief. So I,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Go to pick up the bus driver. And he literally
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: jumped in my car and said, go. He goes, get
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: me the F out of here. Can we swear?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Get me the fuck out of here. He goes, Glenn
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Danzig is the worst person in the world.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I guess I don't even want to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: meet him.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Is he a diva?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm probably getting in trouble. He sat
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: on the bus just watching porn all day, according to
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the bus driver.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: That's a ballsy move. No pun intended. Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe, maybe at some time in my life
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I would have done that.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But no, I didn't have to.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. That's hilarious. No.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Glenn Danzig, quiet riots.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: The worst. Oh, not even the biggest man. I mean,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: they were, they were, but I mean, when we were
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: dealing with, you were well on the decline.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: We get them on the rise and on the fall.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: But they were so horrible.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Rock stars. Yeah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was really bad. It's a real bummer.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: How many original members were left? Of that time, even
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Rudy Sarzo.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: So they had most.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Carlos Cavazos. No, I think I got the original. Well,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: we all know Ozzy.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: He died. Wow. That's a lover.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: But anyway, it was mainly about, they were very picky about,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: because they wanted backline. And, you know, I was newer. And, man,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: they were, we, actually my band opened up for them.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: We were going to let them use our gear. We
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: had good gear. But they didn't like anything. And they
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: weren't going to do the show. And so what did
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: they do then? They demanded their money up front. I'm
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: a little bar. I don't have six grand or whatever
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: it was in my register right now. So we're going
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to have a night. We have ticket sales. And they
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: wanted to get paid right now. So I had it somehow.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I'd call my mom.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'd do. I'll get you tonight, Mom.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: It was not cool. And then they ended up playing
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: for me three or four other times. Each time.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Same attitude?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: They got a little better.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's good. Good to hear.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I figured there'd be some that are just hard
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to deal with. Oh, my God. Well, there's more than that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: There's many, many more. Yeah. But there was so many
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: that were so surprising.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: That's good to hear. Good to hear that most of
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: them were pretty cool.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, like Cheap Trick, Robin Zander, who was in
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: my lifetime. Let me tell you, I met him four
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: times previously. you know, on the street, you know, wherever
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I ran. He was a complete dick to me. Every time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: But when he played my club, he was the nicest
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: guy ever. We hung out. I hung out with him,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: had beers with him at the hotel. It was the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: best moment of my life.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how you can hear things about somebody that
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: they're dicks and then you meet them and they're super
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: nice to you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: They don't want to. The thing is, they don't want to.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: I get it now. Even me sometimes. You don't want to,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: he's walking down the street. He doesn't want to be bothered.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: That's his time, right?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Or one time I met him at Rexall Drugs. And
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I'm in line where I was in California. And I'm like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: what am I going to say to this guy? I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: just want to like hug him. I mean, he's just
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: so amazing.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is kind of a funny story. We
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: saw Motley Crue with Mark one time. And when we
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: were leaving, their buses were pulling out right in front
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: of us. And so we were going across the bridge
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and they were still in.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Front of us.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: And we're like, I wonder where they're going. I was like,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: let's follow them and see. So we got onto I-80.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Went to a restaurant.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, they're on I-80. And I was like,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: if they stop at the truck stop, let's stop and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: see if we can meet them. And two of the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: buses pulled in there. So we went inside, and Nicky
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: came in, and he saw us right there.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And he was like, let me get a bite to eat,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and I'll come over and do whatever you want. Oh,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: my God, no way.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And he had a bite to eat, and he came over,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: and he signed autographs, talked to us for, I don't know, 10,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes. Amazing. He actually came back to us. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: was like, you guys ready for that picture and stuff?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah. He was nice as can be,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and then Mick came in as well, and he was
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: super nice too.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Tommy and Vince kept on rolling. Oh, Vince Neil was
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: not nice.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: They didn't come in.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He wasn't nice at all.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: No?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: He was not nice to me.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. But, I mean, you know one person,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: so Miranda Lambert, she played, of course, a sold-out show.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: She sat there on her chair, and so did Jennifer Nettles.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a country thing. They signed 400 autographs for
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the whole venue. I've never. Yeah. I'm like.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I'm bowing down.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's cool.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why country is so big.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be a reason.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Take care of their fans and fans take care of them.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's nice to meet somebody when they actually are
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: nice to you.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, then everything is confirmed because you're already assuming.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: They're a really cool guy.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Until they aren't.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And you know what? I'm not saying those other people
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: could have had bad run-ins with Nicky, and I'm sure
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: they have, but like I said, he was cool to us.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it does. So did David Allen Coe.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: He's the most mercurial person I've ever met. You meet
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: him one time. He is a snake. People told me
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it's because he lost money at the casino. Because he
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: gambled every night. Every night. I booked him five times.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: So I got to know him. And then one night,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: the second time I booked him, he was so nice
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: to me. I don't know.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you?
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Where's David?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Well, like I said, we have top ten lists.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just rattle off my favorite memories personally.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So just, obviously I told you, playing there two or
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: three times. Bands hanging out after the show just being
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: super accessible all the time. Yeah, that was it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: That is amazing. I have a cool story. It's surreal.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: It's surreal. So I booked Corey Feldman. Let's go. Let's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: go with Corey Feldman. And Corey Feldman did not show
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: up for the show. He showed up literally at midnight
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: after the show ended at, say, 1030. Maybe it was 1130.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: So He ended up hanging out. And then, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: he was cool. I really was interested just to see
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: what he was like.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Because he's a.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: He's an odd dog. He is a.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: He's, you know, he is.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So we ended up hanging out. And then we went
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit after hours. So I heard this knock
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: at the door. And the band Dope came in. The
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: whole band was coming through Clinton and decided to stop
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: at a pick That's awesome. After hours. So I let
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: him in. So here we are. I'm with Corey Feldman
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: and the band does. We're hanging out, singing karaoke and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: playing acoustic guitar and jamming. It could have been in
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a movie.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: It's a surreal moment. There were many.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Another one is just how intimate and tense the performance was.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: How low the stage sat. Just how intimate the shows were.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: It was just intense.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: So intimate. that there was no barrier between the music.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And that is one of the most amazing things about it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And no one died. That's amazing too.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: A launching pad for regional talent.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, so many things happened. Janie Lane threw a
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: can of beer to somebody off the stage. They were
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: so close, they got it in the face.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was, there was a lot of, you
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: can be hit by a guitar. Oh yeah.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, meeting up with, just meeting with my friends and
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: just hanging out there. Cause I'm, I was born just
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of years too late. Cause I, it closed
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: when I turned 20, is it 03? So I was
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: barely 21.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Well, we, we did 18 and older.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And good.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I went to a lot. Yeah. Oh yeah. Uh, man,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that you had all my eighties favorites, like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: LA guns, firehouse, uh, Fall Out Boy. So just as
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: fast as you can. Right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to send you the list. You
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: can really go through it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, no way. It's pretty amazing.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Seeing Adema was just awesome. Adema, yeah. Adema was awesome.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: And Trust Company opened, which I really started to like
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: at Trust Company after that. Yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Pixar 2000 with Seven Dusts and Haybreed. And then Three
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Doors Down a week before Kryptonite.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: What about Pixar 98? With Motorhead and the rest of Ozzfest.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, that's right. It was all Ozzfest. It sure was.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend, wasn't it? What was that?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Fourth of July weekend, was that? Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: It was a complete routing date for Ozfest. Mm-hmm.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: And I cannot believe it happened.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Hey, how do you, how would you like half of
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Ozfest in your parking lot?
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Where does that ever happen?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: What do you got, Josh? Mostly just the bands I saw,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: like Black Label, King's X. King's X.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I saw Nile and Immolation, Living Sacrifice.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Nice.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Six feet under, saliva. I met Josie Scott, came over
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to the village.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: So cool. Very nice. Fastball.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Fastball.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: That's more of a pop type thing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: You got a story here coming at you.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: All right, nice.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: So there used to be a thing called Z Rock.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Do you remember Z Rock?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I do, yep.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: They broke so many bands. And so Fastball was one
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: of the bands. But the thing about Z Rock, they
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: break them in a regional area. They weren't nationally known yet.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: They were all in small markets. So I really liked
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the band. So I called my agent, and I got them.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: But you know what they did? We booked them, and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: you know what they ended up doing? Nobody knew who
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: they were. They opened up for an ACDC tribute band.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I am not kidding you.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: I remember because I was working at the Village Inn,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: and the singer for Fastball came over and ate, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I got to meet him too. He was super nice.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a band that went.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were huge. Eve Six.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Eve Six.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Eve Six, yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I got stories. I went to the gym with him, too,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and I'm in the gym on the treadmill, and we're
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: at Gold's Gym in the Quad Cities. His song comes
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: on the radio, and I'm on the treadmill, and I'm like,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: this is a weird world.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: This is my life. There really could be a movie made.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: about the pig pen.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Come on, let's go.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: They made one about CBGBs. It's not that much different.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, the truth is I am writing a screenplay.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. I would watch that in a heartbeat. I mean,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: it's quite a story.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: We will. Yeah, I'm there.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: We'll have to film it in Clinton.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Or else can you get the scenery, like all those industries.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is the place still there? Oh, yeah, no, it is. Like,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: just kind of sitting there?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: I mean... The owners should have kept it the way
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Turn it into a friggin' museum.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Or add a concert there every year.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: That should, yeah.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: It's too bad.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Resurrect Pigstock, yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: That would have been worth more than the building.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: At this point.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: No kidding.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: That's about all I had with, you know, Pigstock and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Drowning Pool.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: We talked about.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Well, this was actually fun.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. September 13th.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: We need to have a part two.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: We can just go on.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can go on. If you realize how we
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: can do this.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just talk about how you do part two, three,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and four.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Man. All we have to do is, I see it
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: on your face.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Some of it is painful.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh my God. Well, the thing is, if
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I had.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Two or three more people here that I can think of,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: we would be chiming in. Because what I don't remember,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: because remember, I was running it. It wasn't always fun.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Like a crazy person. Long hours, early mornings.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would be worried if no one was there.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: And I'd be worried too many people were there. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: was worried all the time.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I remember black label society was packed. I was up
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: in the balcony and it was, that was so good. Yeah.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have, so the pig pen and another idea,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I had black lights with the paint he used was
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: all black light paint. So when you walked in there,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, when we had it done, when we first
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: opened it up, remember the door with pigs anus.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What a touch.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: You walk in there, it was like being in a,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: on a different planet. Yeah.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: It was very cool. Yeah, I loved every second of it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: So anyway, please come to the show. It's so important.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it brought me out of retirement. I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I want to do concerts.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Iowa Hall of Famer is Lynn Allen.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, and hold on, there's two of them. And Liz
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: and the Bellies.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: They're Hall of Famers too? Yeah. Nice. That's very cool.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You got Cheese Pizza.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Cheese Pizza, the super group with me in the band.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: They're going to be playing Thompson the night before. Yep.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Because I live in Thompson now. And so, yeah, I'm
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: going to Harvest Days for sure.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Also, Lee felt so strongly about it. He told me
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: to get a band together and we'll do it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So are you playing, what, twice?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Three times. And I'm not getting paid, everybody. Yep. So
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: come out. I'm really into it.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: If you love live music, first of all, I mean,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: it's a great cause. A lot of awareness because speakers,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: everything will be had. So just come on, listen, have
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: an open mind. You know, even if you're pro, if
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you're against.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: We don't mind. Hey, if you're pro data center, you know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: just come on, you know, show up. It's still a
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: great event for this town.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're out of nowhere.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: We need more live music.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Because I decided we needed a concert.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And this town actually has had such a cool
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: music history with Pigpen and Riverboat Days.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: True. You know, and Killian's always three years.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So are you getting the bug again? Let's keep
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it going. You feel the itch?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: No, not really. It's a very, it's a roller coaster. Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And it's, it can be thankless.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to have a lot of people. Yeah.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're, We're going to have a nostalgia fest.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Is what's going to happen. I mean, it isn't Pigstock. No.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: But people already call it Pigstock 26. But it really isn't.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Because they're not one national. But we don't care. No.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: As long as it gets people out. It gets people outdoors.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: It gets them away from, you know.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Because live music, as cheesy as it sounds, can cure
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a lot just by listening to music and hanging out
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: with your buddies and just socializing.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a Sunday in the park. Yeah. Watching
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a band.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Nothing better.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, also I've invited acoustic guitar players.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: I saw that. Artists.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: To come out and, you know, pin artists to set up,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you know, around the perimeter. You won't be hearing the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: sounds very directional. They can go have their own little show.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Come on out.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Do it. Just come out. Either way you support it
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: or you're against it, just come out and have a
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: good time. Thank you, Robbie. We really appreciate you coming out.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm doing it. I really am. Thank you.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the time today. We really appreciate it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: It was a lot more fun than I thought.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: It would be.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do it again? Hey, we can
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: always hang out anytime. Anytime. Yeah. So thank you very much, Robbie.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: This has been a top 10 podcast. Next week, we
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: are doing a top 10 village. Villain. Villain origin stories.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Villain people. Villain origin stories with Ryan from IROC is
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: going to be on the podcast next week.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Thank you, Ryan.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Ryan was all over it this morning.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Yeah, I saw he had it up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: He put that up, and I'm going to tell you guys,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I looked at some of their other stuff
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: on there. We have over almost 500 likes. Oh, that's awesome.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, because 500 likes.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Is a lot. I'm getting the word out in Quad
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Cities of people that might not even be aware.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Well, no, I know. He's all behind it. Brian's a
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: good guy. He really is.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Get us a list for that.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yep. Like, share, subscribe. Tell us in the comments anything.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: If you have any questions for Robbie, we'll reach out
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to him. Thanks, Robbie.