Latest / Beyond The Horizon / The USVI And Their Motion To Exclude JP Morgan's Expert Witnesses (Part 1) (11/2/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to get back to the
- 0:05Speaker 1: court documents, and this time we're taking a look at
- 0:09Speaker 1: the government of the United States Virgin Islands Memorandum of
- 0:12Speaker 1: Law in support of motion to exclude expert opinions of Kimberly, Melman, Orozco,
- 0:20Speaker 1: Joseph Fonseca, and Carolyn Irwin. Introduction. Plaintiff, the government of
- 0:25Speaker 1: the United States... Virgin Islands alleges that defendant JPMorgan Chase
- 0:30Speaker 1: Bank facilitated and benefited from the criminal sex trafficking of
- 0:34Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein in violation of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act,
- 0:39Speaker 1: Section 18, U.S. Code Section 1581 through 97 TVPA. The
- 0:45Speaker 1: TVPA provides the state attorney general a right of civil
- 0:48Speaker 1: action as parents' patriarchy to protect the interests of state
- 0:52Speaker 1: residents that have been threatened or adversely affected by any
- 0:55Speaker 1: person who violates U.S. Code 18, Section 1591. The government
- 1:00Speaker 1: alleges that J.P. Morgan knowingly participated and benefited from Epstein's
- 1:05Speaker 1: sex trafficking venture by holding his accounts, processing payments to
- 1:08Speaker 1: victims and recruiters, and redacted in violation of U.S. Code 18,
- 1:13Speaker 1: Section 1591a and 2. The government also alleges that J.P.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Morgan's redacted constitutes unlawful obstruction of TVPA enforcement in violation
- 1:25Speaker 1: of U.S. Code 18, Section 1591-D-2-A-C. The government seeks an injunction,
- 1:32Speaker 1: damages equitable relief, and attorney fees and costs as appropriate
- 1:36Speaker 1: relief under Section 1595-D. In response to the government's claims, J.P.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Morgan disclosed proposed opinion testimony from four expert witnesses. Three
- 1:47Speaker 1: of them, however, offer opinions that are well outside their
- 1:50Speaker 1: expertise or otherwise objectionable. and should be excluded. J.P. Morgan
- 1:55Speaker 1: proposes to offer the opinions of Kimberly Melman Orozco, whose
- 2:00Speaker 1: academic training is in criminology with a focus on immigration,
- 2:04Speaker 1: on whether Epstein's victims were subject to trafficking, whether redacted,
- 2:08Speaker 1: and whether the government and or certain plaintiffs' lawyers are
- 2:11Speaker 1: engaged in secondary exploitation of Epstein's victim. Dr. Melman Orozco
- 2:17Speaker 1: lacks the credentials to offer these opinions and has little
- 2:20Speaker 1: education or expertise in human trafficking. relying largely upon her
- 2:24Speaker 1: experience gained as an expert in previous cases. Compounding the problems,
- 2:29Speaker 1: she offers opinions regarding financial regulations and standards, an area
- 2:33Speaker 1: in which she possesses no expertise whatsoever, and also offers
- 2:37Speaker 1: bizarre opinions regarding human trafficking that contradict the plain language
- 2:41Speaker 1: of the TVPA. The court should exclude Dr. Melman or
- 2:45Speaker 1: Roscoe's opinions in their entirety or, in the alternative, strictly
- 2:50Speaker 1: limit her testimony to specific areas that are scientifically valid
- 2:54Speaker 1: and in which the court determines she possesses the requisite expertise. J.P.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Morgan also disclosed the opinions of Joseph Fonseca, a retired
- 3:03Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agent, on whether redacted. Although Mr. Fonseca
- 3:07Speaker 1: has experience in law enforcement, he lacks the requisite experience
- 3:11Speaker 1: to opine regarding redacted in this case. He never used
- 3:14Speaker 1: SARS in his work and did not know what they
- 3:17Speaker 1: were until J.P. Morgan retained him for the case. He
- 3:20Speaker 1: also disclaimed knowledge regarding the practices of other investigators, further
- 3:25Speaker 1: demonstrating the lack of factual basis for his opinions. Finally, J.P.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Morgan plans to rely upon the opinions of Carlin Irwin,
- 3:33Speaker 1: a forensic economist who works primarily as an expert witness
- 3:37Speaker 1: concerning tax benefits Epstein received from the Virgin Islands Economic
- 3:41Speaker 1: Development Commission. As established in prior briefing, these benefits are
- 3:45Speaker 1: irrelevant to the issues in this case because J.P. Morgan's
- 3:49Speaker 1: fault-shifting affirmative defense are not cognizable at law. Moreover, Ms.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Irwin offers testimony well outside her expertise as an economist,
- 3:58Speaker 1: criticizing or opining on the efforts of the EDC in
- 4:02Speaker 1: granting and monitoring the tax benefits, even though she has
- 4:05Speaker 1: no relevant experience either with these types of tax benefits
- 4:09Speaker 1: in general or with the activities of government agencies. She also, impermissibly,
- 4:14Speaker 1: offers rank speculation about the motives of public officials. As
- 4:19Speaker 1: detailed below, each of these experts' opinions should be excluded
- 4:22Speaker 1: in whole or significant part due to the lack of qualification,
- 4:26Speaker 1: insufficiency of supporting facts or data, unreliable scientific methodology, and
- 4:31Speaker 1: or irrelevance to the case. The Legal Standard A witness
- 4:35Speaker 1: who is qualified as an expert by knowledge, skill, experience, training,
- 4:40Speaker 1: or education is may testify in the form of an
- 4:43Speaker 1: opinion or otherwise if, A, the expert's scientific, technical, or
- 4:47Speaker 1: otherwise specialized knowledge will help the trier of fact to
- 4:51Speaker 1: understand the evidence or to determine a fact and issue,
- 4:53Speaker 1: and B, the testimony is based on sufficient facts or data.
- 4:58Speaker 1: FedR Evidence 702 A and B. To determine whether a
- 5:02Speaker 1: witness qualifies as an expert, courts compare the area in
- 5:06Speaker 1: which the witness has superior knowledge, education, experience, or skill
- 5:10Speaker 1: with the subject matter of the proffer testimony. United States v.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Yin-Yat-Chin 373 F. 3d The court then must ensure that the
- 5:21Speaker 1: expert will actually be testifying on issues or subject matter
- 5:24Speaker 1: within his or her area of expertise. In assessing the
- 5:28Speaker 1: sufficiency of the facts or data supporting an expert's opinion,
- 5:32Speaker 1: the court must ensure that there is not too great
- 5:35Speaker 1: an analytical gap between the data and the opinion proffered,
- 5:39Speaker 1: although some gaps or inconsistencies in the reasoning leading to
- 5:42Speaker 1: the opinion go to the weight of the evidence, not
- 5:45Speaker 1: to its admissibility. In Daubert v. Merrill, Dow Pharmaceutical Inc.,
- 5:50Speaker 1: 509 U.S. 579, 1993, the Supreme Court held that Federal
- 5:56Speaker 1: Rule of Evidence 702's requirement that an expert testimony pertain
- 6:00Speaker 1: to scientific knowledge establishes a standard of evidentiary reliability. Daubert
- 6:06Speaker 1: sets forth certain criteria that a district court may consider
- 6:09Speaker 1: in assessing the reliability of scientific expert testimony. including 1.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Whether the expert's theory or technique can be and has
- 6:18Speaker 1: been tested, 2. Whether the theory or technique has been
- 6:21Speaker 1: subjected to peer review and publication, 3. The known or
- 6:25Speaker 1: potential rate of error in the theory's application and the
- 6:29Speaker 1: existence and maintenance of standards controlling the technique's operation, and 4.
- 6:34Speaker 1: The general acceptance of the theory or technique in the
- 6:37Speaker 1: relevant scientific community. Daubert also makes clear that its list
- 6:42Speaker 1: of factors was meant to be helpful, not definitive. In
- 6:45Speaker 1: assessing the reliability of a non-scientific expert's methodology, the court
- 6:50Speaker 1: may consider one or more of the specific factors that
- 6:53Speaker 1: Daubert mentioned when doing so will help determine that testimony's reliability.
- 6:58Speaker 1: But as the court stated in Daubert, the test of
- 7:01Speaker 1: reliability is flexible. and Daubert's list of specific factors neither
- 7:05Speaker 1: necessarily nor exclusively applies to all experts or in every case.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Expert testimony must also be relevant under Rule 401 and
- 7:15Speaker 1: must not unfairly prejudicial under Rule 403. The Argument 1. Dr.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Mihan Orozco's testimony should be stricken in whole or significant part. Dr.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Melman Orozco holds herself out as an expert on human trafficking,
- 7:31Speaker 1: but breathtakingly offers the opinion, plainly contrary to the TVPA,
- 7:36Speaker 1: that rather than being trafficked, some minors choose to engage
- 7:40Speaker 1: in commercial sex for money and are not actually trafficked.
- 7:43Speaker 1: The declaration of David Ackerman in support of the government
- 7:46Speaker 1: of the United States Virgin Islands motion to exclude expert
- 7:50Speaker 1: opinion of Kimberly Melman Orozco, Joseph Fonseca, and Carlin Irwin
- 7:55Speaker 1: filed herein thereafter Declaration Example 1 at 67. J.P. Morgan
- 8:00Speaker 1: has hired her to offer over 20 opinions in this
- 8:03Speaker 1: case on wide-ranging topics, some of which stray far from
- 8:07Speaker 1: human trafficking. Given her unsupportable opinion, it is unsurprising that
- 8:11Speaker 1: she lacks any meaningful academic credentials relating to human trafficking
- 8:15Speaker 1: and has minimal experience in the field outside her work
- 8:18Speaker 1: as a full-time expert witness. Nonetheless, she stretches what little
- 8:22Speaker 1: expertise she claims to have to opine on unrelated topics
- 8:26Speaker 1: such as banking regulations and standards, which even Dr. Melman
- 8:29Speaker 1: Orozco admits are not her area of expertise. Dr. Melman
- 8:33Speaker 1: Orozco also puts forth, without any support, an incredibly narrow
- 8:38Speaker 1: knowledge standard for the TVPA that is also inconsistent with
- 8:42Speaker 1: the law and improper for expert testimony, under which almost
- 8:45Speaker 1: no financial institution could be found liable. Dr. Melman Orozco
- 8:50Speaker 1: further offers irrelevant opinions regarding secondary exploitations, a concept she
- 8:55Speaker 1: invents without any empirical support and misidentification of human trafficking
- 8:59Speaker 1: victims seemingly to impermissibly impugn the government's witnesses and motives
- 9:04Speaker 1: for bringing this law enforcement action. For these reasons, Dr.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Melman Orozco's testimony should be excluded in its entirety. In
- 9:12Speaker 1: the alternative, Dr. Melman Orozco's testimony should be limited solely
- 9:16Speaker 1: to the areas for which she claims to have expertise,
- 9:20Speaker 1: human trafficking, and her other opinions regarding legal standards, which
- 9:24Speaker 1: are not only improper but erroneous, should be stricken because
- 9:28Speaker 1: they are unhelpful and would serve only to mislead and
- 9:30Speaker 1: confuse the jury and thereby unfairly prejudice the government. A. Dr.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Melman Orozco's testimony should be excluded in its entirety because
- 9:41Speaker 1: she is not qualified to serve as an expert on
- 9:44Speaker 1: human trafficking. To the admissible under Rule 702, Expert testimony
- 9:49Speaker 1: must come from someone who is qualified as an expert
- 9:52Speaker 1: by knowledge, skill, experience, training, or education. Dr. Mel Menorosco
- 9:57Speaker 1: has none of these characteristics. She is not an academic
- 10:01Speaker 1: or practitioner in the field of human trafficking. Her degrees
- 10:04Speaker 1: are in criminology, but she relies on her limited graduate
- 10:07Speaker 1: coursework in human trafficking as basis for her expertise. Although
- 10:12Speaker 1: she represents otherwise, Dr. Mel Menorosco's primary area of academic
- 10:16Speaker 1: study was not human trafficking. Dr. Mel Minerosco wrote the
- 10:20Speaker 1: dissertation for her 2012 PhD in Criminology on Immigration and
- 10:26Speaker 1: Erroneous Criminalization, not Human Trafficking. She relies on having taken
- 10:31Speaker 1: several graduate-level courses relating to human trafficking, an insufficient basis
- 10:36Speaker 1: for an expert's opinion, but even that is untrue. Dr.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Mel Minerosco could only identify two classes at her deposition,
- 10:44Speaker 1: Human Smuggling and Human Trafficking, and foreign nationals in crime,
- 10:48Speaker 1: the latter of which was not specific to human trafficking.
- 10:51Speaker 1: In addition, her teaching experience is limited to part-time instructor
- 10:55Speaker 1: or adjunct positions where she largely taught classes wholly unrelated
- 11:00Speaker 1: or not specific to human trafficking. Nearly all of Dr.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Melman Orozco's research experience is either not specific to human
- 11:07Speaker 1: trafficking or stems from her role as an expert witness.
- 11:11Speaker 1: but it would be absurd to conclude that one can
- 11:14Speaker 1: become an expert simply by accumulating experience in testifying. Dr.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Melman Orozco is a professional expert who started offering expert
- 11:22Speaker 1: testimony straight out of school. She testified that she has
- 11:25Speaker 1: been disclosed as an expert in 48 cases from 2016
- 11:30Speaker 1: to 2023. In 2012, the same year she graduated with
- 11:34Speaker 1: her PhD in criminology, Dr. Melman Orozco founded the Justia Institute,
- 11:39Speaker 1: a now-defunct organization, Among other services, the Justia Institute offered
- 11:45Speaker 1: expert testimony at criminal court cases involving immigrants or victims
- 11:49Speaker 1: of human trafficking. One of the Justia Institute's projects involved
- 11:53Speaker 1: writing to 17 convicted terrorists serving time in federal prison
- 11:57Speaker 1: to better understand their crime through their eyes. Seemingly research
- 12:01Speaker 1: for Dr. Melman Zarrosco's book, The Jihadi Next Door, How
- 12:05Speaker 1: ISIS is Forcing, Defrauding, and Coercing Your Neighbor into Terrorism.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Another project analyzed the effects of in-state tuition for non-citizens
- 12:13Speaker 1: in Maryland. Dr. Melman Orozco has established multiple entities for
- 12:17Speaker 1: the purpose of providing expert witness and consulting services. In 2016,
- 12:23Speaker 1: she formed Mann, Melman, and Associates to offer expert witness
- 12:26Speaker 1: services and training and technical assistance for businesses. In 2018, Dr.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Melman Orozco established Break the Chain to provide expert witness
- 12:36Speaker 1: services and training and technical assistance for businesses. In 2019,
- 12:40Speaker 1: she established Freedom Light, a nonprofit that provides training and
- 12:44Speaker 1: technical assistance specifically for businesses, and through which she is
- 12:48Speaker 1: writing a book tentatively titled Innocent Villains and Guilty Heroes,
- 12:52Speaker 1: The Truth Behind America's Failing War on Sex Trafficking, and
- 12:56Speaker 1: how sometimes there are companies and organizations that can be scapegoated. Dr.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Melman Orozco has minimal formal training or education relating to
- 13:04Speaker 1: human trafficking, and nearly all of her experience stems from
- 13:08Speaker 1: paid engagements as an expert witness. Expert witnesses are granted
- 13:12Speaker 1: testimonial latitude unavailable to other witnesses on the assumption that
- 13:16Speaker 1: the expert's opinion will have a reliable basis in the
- 13:19Speaker 1: knowledge and experience of his discipline. Dr. Melman Orozco's eight
- 13:23Speaker 1: years of experience testifying as an expert witness, cannot itself
- 13:31Speaker 1: form a reliable basis for testimony. Thus, the court should
- 13:35Speaker 1: exclude Dr. Melman Orozco's testimony in its entirety. All right,
- 13:40Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode here, and in
- 13:42Speaker 1: the next episode, we're going to pick up with B. Dr.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Melman Orozco lacks expertise regarding financial regulations and standards. All
- 13:50Speaker 1: of the information that goes with this episode can be
- 13:53Speaker 1: found in the description box.