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#196: Wrong Turn 4: Bloody Beginnings (2011) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, What's your least favorite scary movie?
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I'm pretty sure we take a right welcome to watch The Least
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favorite Scary Movie, The podcast where we talk about the
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good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite
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scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has its fan base.
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Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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My name is Jesse. And welcome back, everybody.
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We have another special episode for you guys and.
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Holler. Hooton Holler.
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Where? Hooton back into the Holler.
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Those Ding country roads keep taking us back home to West
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Virginia. And Hicksploitation.
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And exploitation. We're talking about wrong turn 4
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today, everybody. Yeah, we like to talk about
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this, the series on the show and I don't know if everybody else
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is into it, but God damn it, we love it.
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Absolutely. We love us some exploitation.
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We love us some wrong turn. So we're going to keep trucking
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through this series. Truck, truck, trucking truck,
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truck. All right, announcements.
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Do we have any announcements for this week?
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No. OK, I have an announcement.
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I forgot to do the poll. All right.
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Wrong Turn 4. This movie went straight to DVD.
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Straight to DVD? Nope.
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It released October 25th, 2011. We watched it on our digital
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copy. We actually don't know this on
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DVD, but you can buy the five pack if you want to watch it.
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Or you can just rent it from one of the following options Apple,
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Amazon, YouTube or Voodoo. This movie was written by Declan
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O'Brien. It was also directed by Declan
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O'Brien and we found out last night while watching this movie.
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He passed away two years ago, almost to the day.
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It was actually February 16th, 2022.
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We watched it February 16th. Yeah, so we ended up actually
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watching this on the anniversary of him passing, which is
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unfortunate. He had some good contributions
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to horror here. He had the wrong turn entries.
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He did Joyride 3. I can't think of anything else
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though. Those are the ones that get the
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most play in our house anyway. Yeah, right.
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Because we like both of those series.
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They're both good. Yeah.
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All right. Music was done by Quad Voici and
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special effects was done by Dilated Pixels and Cameron
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Patterson. OK, yeah, downloaded pixels did
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the special effects like the visual computer effects, if that
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makes sense with the pixel part. OK, and Cameron Patterson did
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the actual practical stuff. OK.
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Yeah. OK.
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So that's how that breakdown goes.
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OK cast Starring Victor Zinc Junior as Kyle.
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Allie Tataran as Warren, Dean Armstrong as Daniel.
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Tara Unisa No Tara, Vanessa. It's spelled VNESAI.
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Think Vanessa is how you might pronounce that could be wrong.
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She plays Jenna Caleb Lieb as Bridget, Tanika Davis as Sarah,
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Ginny Padovic as Kenya, Sean Skeen as Vincent and Three
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Finger Dan Skeen Bubby of Sean Skeen as One Eye.
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So Vincent got two roles. Oh, and I guess we know who the
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golden brother is in that situation.
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Yeah. OK.
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And Scott Johnson is Sawtooth. OK.
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All right. And these are the older versions
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of their characters, correct? Yeah, I didn't credit the kid
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versions because we did have three of them that are 9, eight
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and ten. I think.
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Yeah, that's their age in the opening of the movie.
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But I ran off room. There's a lot of people.
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This is a big cast as it is. Yeah, and you don't get some of
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their names until the very end. Exactly.
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It's hard to keep up with some of them all right, Jesse, time
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to play our favorite game. Budget.
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Or button. Definitely Bug Ted.
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Yeah, so this movie is in fact Bug Ted.
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This movie had a budget of $2,000,000.
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Wow. Yep.
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Did not go to the box office, so we don't have an opening box
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office, but I do have the worldwide gross for what it made
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on Blu-ray cells and DVD sales. Digital media sales.
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Well, yeah, I guess that yeah that was 3.6 million, but it was
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noted that it also released as cable rentals and on streaming.
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So that part of the profit is not in the equation.
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So it did make more than that. Overall IMDb score is 4.5 out of
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10. You know, it's better than I
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thought I was gonna get, so. You thought it was gonna be
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lower than 4.5? Not for me, but.
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But for other people, yeah. See, I feel like people
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generally look at this one and they're like, yeah.
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It's not, it's. Not that bad.
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You know I think everybody recognizes like wow it did a lot
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better than it should have and you would think that that would
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like that would inflate the rating, right.
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You don't think people would be shitting on this thing?
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I. Don't know.
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Some people in IMDb take their role as like a user reviewer
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really seriously. It's like a yeah, they actually,
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they think it's like auditions that become an actual movie
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critic trying to be the next Fuck Roger Ebert.
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There you go. Yeah, yeah.
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OK. Notoriously hated horror so.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a lot of interesting
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interactions with directors out there.
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OK so I have a theme for three movies I put picked for 2011.
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OK. I don't remember much about
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2011, so I am curious to hear what theme you have.
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Well, these are all going to be mostly forgettable, except for I
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think, one you're going to be a fan of.
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OK, the theme for this is direct to DVD sequels.
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OK, I do actually really enjoy that theme.
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First movie Hellraiser Revelations.
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OK, I've never seen that one. Oh boy.
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I think that this might be one of the most hated in the entire
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franchise. So they made this movie purely
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for the sole reason to retain the rights of the franchise.
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So it was shout out there real quick, OK, it had a budget of
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$300,000. It was released October 18th,
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2011. Don't have the gross on it.
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No money. Reported IMDb score 2.7 out of
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10. I have a quote from Clive
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Barker. It's actually a tweet from him.
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It's on the Wikipedia page. They just took a screenshot of
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this tweet and it's like, this is what Clive thought of this
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fucking. Shit, boy.
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Clive Barker has to say I have nothing to do with this fucking
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thing. If they claim it's from the mind
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of Clive Barker, it's a lie. It's not even from my butthole.
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I'm going to start using that, not.
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Even from my. Butthole.
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I love how he's just so pissed off that they continue to make
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Hellraiser movies. That's like straight up hatred
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right there. OK, next movie.
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Hostel Part three. Yeah, you were speaking all
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kinds of good about this movie last.
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Week. I loved that movie.
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Yeah. Well.
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I am aware that's not a popular opinion.
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OK. I just OK, I just, I will say it
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is the highest rated movie out of all of these movies that we
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are talking about here, including wrong Turn. 40, right?
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OK, Hostel Part 3 release December. 11.6.
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It is actually it is 4.6 point one higher than wrong turn four.
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OK Hostel Part 3 Release. Hostel Hostel Part 3 Release
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December 11th, 2011. Christmas gift to us all, truly.
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Yeah, truly. Everybody wanted that one for
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Christmas. All the children love it.
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I asked my mom and dad for it. I was like, mommy, daddy.
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I was in college. Give me hostel Part 3.
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I'm pretty sure I watched this over Christmas break that year.
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So did you? Pretty sure.
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Really. Did you actually watch this back
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then? Yeah, I thought we watched this
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for the first time together. No.
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Really. Wow.
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So you've just been like a die hard hostile Part 3?
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From the beginning. Wow, that's impressive.
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I don't, I wouldn't admit. Ride or die?
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All right. Had a surprising budget of $6
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million. Good.
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For them. They saw the potential.
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They did. Worldwide.
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Gross. Don't have it straight to DVD.
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DVD Yeah, but I didn't even get the like the physical media
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cells of it. And that's discussed IMDb
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4.6000. So it is the highest
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technically. This is coming on the show.
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Y'all it will be happening, don't worry.
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We're going to have to talk about this one final movie
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direct to DVD sequel from 2011 is it's one we own, actually.
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OK, we've never watched. It is it, I guess.
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Is it one of the puppet masters? Yeah, it is not.
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Oh, OK. You want.
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I'll give you one more guess if you want to guess.
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We hit. It is a it's a killer.
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Something that we that shouldn't be killing.
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Something like it's not your typical it's not our person now.
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Once was a person, but now it is something else.
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It's a person of some sorts. Oh, is it one of the ginger
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dead? Man Sequels Is This Ginger Dead
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Man 3 Ginger Dead Man Three Saturday Night Cleaver.
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Nice. Yeah, nice.
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I hope there is so much disco action in that.
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We got to watch it, man. We do own this one.
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I I just don't think we've ever actually watched.
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It isn't that, like with all of our puppet mastery DVD, like,
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don't that we had like a 16 pack of all of.
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The We've got all the puppet masters.
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We got all the Puppet Masters on DVD.
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This is part of like our weird weird like Blu-ray pack.
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It has Killjoy 3 on it also. OK.
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Yeah, it's got a bunch of weird movies, apparently.
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All full moon I guess, but that released September 13th.
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Don't have the budget, don't have the gross, but the IMDb
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score is 3.7 out of 10. OK, all right.
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Got 3 taglines. OK.
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No tagline on the poster. So we're just kind of going with
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the order that IMDb, IMDb, yeah. I don't know movie database.
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Yeah, yeah. All right, first one.
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These hillbillies are going crazy.
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Crazy. That's so lazy, man, these
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hillbillies are going crazy. It's also kind of like not super
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sensitive. But granted, none of this movie
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really was, so it's. About hillbillies.
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About. About crazy I.
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Hate that term. I know, I know.
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You hate it. Yeah.
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OK, well let's move on to the next one.
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I kind of like this one. Screaming only makes them
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hungry. Sorry, all I can think of is Zoe
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because she screams when she's hungry.
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She kind of does feed off of the screaming.
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Maybe he's always a cannibal. Just makes you.
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You're getting tired. You're working up your hunger by
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doing that. The final one's actually my
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favorite, and it's because it's like a fucking mess.
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I don't think that this is like. I think somebody attempted to
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type it correctly, but they're wrong.
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OK. Frost are not the only thing
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bites. Oh, I think that was When you're
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trying to translate something, frost is not the only thing that
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bites. I like that.
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I get that that is good, yeah. But I also like reading it as
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frost are not the only thing bites.
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Well Liz, so I know I'm party pingo, they have a paranormal
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occur, but there's something we watched last weekend that they
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had another similar type thing. Yeah, yeah.
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But I don't think that that's like a translation thing.
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I think it's just people doing typos, which I think.
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I think that's what happened here with this one.
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I think somebody just wrote it wrong.
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They got too fast, They got excited.
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Maybe they just pitched their own tagline there and then, like
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we do maybe fun facts. All right, so this movie was
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shot in 19 days and an actual abandoned mental facility.
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Oh, creepy. Yeah, it was Brandon Mental
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health facility in Manitoba, Canada.
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All the actors are actual Canadian actors.
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Yeah, well, they're Canadian. Slipped some at certain points.
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I didn't ever catch it. Especially the little one,
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Jenna, I think her name is. OK.
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Yeah. Yeah, those came out a couple of
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times. So it was abandoned back in
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1999. It opened in like 1890, OK.
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And inside of it, it included all of the original equipment,
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250,000 square feet, 4 fours, original shock machines and all.
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Holy cow. Yeah, like they fucking just
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straight up and left that place. They did not pack any of it up.
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That stuff was just out there. That's scary to think about What
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happened? Yeah, well, apparently it was
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just like that building. I was reading some of the
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history on it. It seemed to have like a really
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troubled history, like a. Lot of those types of places do
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have like, a trouble history. It completely burned down at one
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point. And they had to, like, rebuild
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it. Yeah.
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So I I don't really know what caused him to abandon it in the
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90s. But yeah, and it was scary for
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them there. I was reading an interview with
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Deccan O'Brien, and he was telling a story of how he got
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creeped out walking through the hallways there because they all
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stayed there while they were shooting it.
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And apparently he had, like, each four, he had like a room
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set up where he would just work on the movie, you know,
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throughout the night. And apparently, like, he would,
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like, have his director headphones on.
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And he was walking down the hallway by himself with a
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flashlight. He still had his headphones on.
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And then he heard somebody like, whisper, I guess through like
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one of the mics downstairs. He's like, where is he?
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Is he here? And like, he apparently he
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jumped up and just like, threw his headphones off.
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And yeah, like, apparently like it was just as creepy as it
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looked in the actual movie to be there.
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I guess that's why it looked so authentic.
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It's. And that's one of those things
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too. And I was thinking about this
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when we were watching video violence last week.
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That like a home that's cluttered for a movie versus a
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home that's like actually lived in cluttered is very different.
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It's hard to replicate. That you?
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Can't accumulate it. Yeah, and that did look
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authentic for like an abandoned hospital.
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See, I think that that's one of the things about this movie that
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makes it kind of stand out like as surprisingly good as it is
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because it had that right there. It had an awesome setting right
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from the get go and. If they're in Canada, that snow
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was probably real, too. It was real, yeah.
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They mentioned that. Yeah.
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OK, so this is actually the 1st century in this series where
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nobody survives other than the hillbillies.
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Oh shit. Isn't that weird?
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And then I tried to think about it.
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I was like, does it happen in the later ones and five?
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Everybody kind of dies. One person is like.
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It's pretty clear what's gonna happen.
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She's gonna die. Yeah, she's gonna die
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eventually. Six.
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I can't even fucking remember. I think no one guy stays there
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to become a part of them. Yeah, that's how 6 ends.
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God forbid. With, you know, the incest in
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the films has always been openly talked about, but never seen one
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of the few instances in movies where Tell don't Show is a
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little bit. Better where we actually.
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Yeah, you wouldn't. But in six, no, they're they're
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like, hey, this is his sister and he's gonna fuck his sister.
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Yep, that's pretty. Much, yeah.
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They they did Halloween 6 but like, didn't show that part.
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They showed the part that Halloween sex and show.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, OK.
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I also wanna know how Michael knew about sex.
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That's more upsetting to me than the driving anyway.
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I don't even wanna go into the details of how that might have
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happened. I don't wanna think about that.
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Skills and special effects on here were mostly practical.
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OK, yeah, they had some touch ups.
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Like, you know, you could see fake blood.
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Like I could see CGI blood. Pretty well.
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And like we had a lot of beheadings and those heads were
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definitely like, those are practical heads.
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They were practical heads with like you could see whenever like
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that girl gets decapitated with the noose, the barbed wire noose
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that like they use a lot of digital effects to kind of
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pretty it up, which I think it kind of hurts in my personal
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opinion, just like go full practical.
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It always looks better that computer graphics stuff doesn't
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normally age too well. And this already seems dated
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like over 10 years later. All right.
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And the final thing is in that scene where he had her get
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decapitated by the barbed wire news, he describes that scene as
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carry times 10 because of the amount of blood that they had to
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use in that scene. Apparently with Kyle that I
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guess that was the guy that like, is trying to pour down and
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gets all that blood on her. They were trying to figure out
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how to, like, keep like, how much blood to put on him to keep
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it with like, continuity whenever they're doing multiple
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shots. And he just sold him pour an
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entire bucket of blood all over him, just like, keep doing it,
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soak him in it that way. It's easy to do.
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So in that shot, he's just completely covered in red the
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entire time. OK, So yeah, those are my fun
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facts. OK.
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Are you ready to talk about? It I'm ready to talk about it.
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All right, well, it's your turn to kick it off.
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Jesse, what did you like about Wrong Turn 4?
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As far as prequels go, which I mean, of course they had to.
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We had to figure something out. We obviously weren't gonna be
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picking up where we left off unless we wanted to leave Three
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Finger, one eye on Sawtooth in the past 'cause they all died at
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the end of three. Actually, they all died in one.
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Two is a new family. Three is just three finger in.
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Yeah, yeah, 3. Toe and then three finger.
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Toe. Yeah, three fingers, actually.
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Alive in three, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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OK. Yeah.
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So anyway, obviously if we were gonna have the the original
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bubbies back together, we're gonna have to go back in time.
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Yeah. And so I thought that that's a,
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you know, a way to do it. Like, it kinda helps you, like
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avoid having to worry about, like continuity issues depending
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on how far back you decide to go.
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And I thought, I like really having like the single location
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setting, obviously, I really love that we have groups of
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horny teens and we have plenty of lesbian representation and I
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think that's interesting. It's definitely borderlines
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fetishy at times. They're just very.
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But it's an exploitation film, yeah.
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So I kind of go back and forth with it, cuz I'm like, well,
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they're college students and they're all second and fucking
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if you will. And so I like that the lesbians
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got to do that too. And then I also, I felt like
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there were some interesting nods to other movies here.
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It was funny when you mentioned Carrie for that beheading scene
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because we get that shot of Kyle afterwards where he's covered in
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blood and something about his face just being pure red, the
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way his hair is all stringy and that, like wide eyed.
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Yeah, Mania. Of what's happening to him in
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that moment is reads very Ash Williams.
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You see? Oh yeah, it does.
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Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
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Yeah. Wow, That's, like, almost
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exactly like that shot. Yeah, yeah.
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And it's like if you go to the IMDb page, it's like one of
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those that's like at the top in the header.
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So if you haven't, if you aren't able to recall the image I'm
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talking about, definitely go check that out on IMDb, because
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it's that's. Probably the best shot in the
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entire movie. Honestly, I love that so much.
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Yeah, so I don't know, I just and I also just, I have a lot of
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fun with it. It's it knows not to take itself
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too seriously. I think this is the lane that
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Declan O'Brien O'Connor lives in.
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Very well. Declan O'Brien?
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No, that's his joyride. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think this is the lane that he lives in.
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Very well, well, but he looked in.
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Yeah, he he did a great. Job.
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Yeah. And you know, like I said, there
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are so many characters and you don't learn all of their names,
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but that's these movies are meant to just kill people off
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and being nasty and yeah, over the top.
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And you just need a bunch of horny teens and young adults to
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do that with. So that's that's what you get
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with this movie. OK.
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I I like all the things that you said there too.
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I'll, I appreciate. I appreciate his attempt at like
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keeping it going fresh like you know, prequel, it's not exactly
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the most original idea, but he mentioned in one of his
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interviews that he was trying to like every single one of them
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has been different. They've all been in a different
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setting. They've all been around
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different characters, So like having them in a snowy
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environment and like a giant, like abandoned hospital is
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actually really interesting. Yeah.
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Although they are going back to the original 3, but I think that
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that's cool because I feel like we didn't really get a lot of
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time to explore the other two. We've had plenty of time to
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explore Three Finger and this because he's the most popular.
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Obviously, yeah, But I liked, you know, getting to see the
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other two. And I guess it's interesting
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that they're like introducing their unique abilities in this
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one, 'cause we don't really, no, no, no, no, really had unique
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abilities before, but this time like, they like actually, like
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listed off. It's almost like we're watching
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like a like a superhero movie where like we're like going to
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be following the villains like Suicide Squad, like well.
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It's kind of like at the beginning of Funhouse massacre
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when he's going through all of the different people in the
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jail. Thought a lot about.
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I know that's That's not even a jail either.
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That's also a. Yeah, it really is.
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Yeah, it's almost the exact same opening except and this one they
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bust out themselves. Another thing I really liked
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about this one is I feel like they stepped up the camera work
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a lot and this one they had like a lot of fun with it, which I
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think it's kind of cool. I guess it's because like the
22:52
environment that they were into, but like I think a lot of that
22:56
one shot where he we already talked about where he like pulls
23:00
her down. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:02
Like, her head's right here and then the camera like all in one
23:05
take flips all the way over and then you see his face and he
23:09
just screams. And then I think of the opening
23:12
when all of the patients escaped and they're all just kind of
23:16
like running around the hospital doing their own thing.
23:19
I like the way that the camera moves around and follows the
23:22
different people, especially that shot with one of them
23:26
taking the girl in the wheelchair and Willinger into
23:29
the room and just like banging it up against something.
23:32
It's really well done. I liked it a lot.
23:35
But yeah, other than what you said, like, you know, those are
23:37
the things I really liked about this one.
23:39
I really like it, honestly. I guess it's a pretty solid
23:42
entry and I feel like people overlook this one sometimes
23:47
because, you know, everybody's like 02/2's the best sequel and
23:51
then they kind of write off the rest.
23:52
But like, I don't know. Like we'll get 4-4's pretty
23:55
solid, honestly. If I am being honest, in my
23:57
heart of hearts, this is my favorite of the franchise.
24:01
This is my favorite sequel of the franchise.
24:04
I kinda thought you would go with #2 for your favorite.
24:06
That's what everybody has. 421 for me.
24:10
Wow. Yeah, mine is.
24:11
Three. I always forget what it's
24:13
actually about. I like 5.
24:17
Has Doug Bradley 6:00. I could have done without ever
24:21
seeing 6. Is terrible.
24:22
Five is awful. 5 is pretty bad, but like, it's a it's an
24:26
enjoyable watch, bad Doug Bradley trying to do a country
24:30
accent and then his British like sucks out all the fucking time.
24:36
It's one of the darkest endings too.
24:39
It's so fucked up it. Really is.
24:41
It's a fucked up movie. It's the The thing that really
24:45
pisses me off about that one is you can tell it's too low a
24:47
budget for the premise they set up for themselves.
24:49
Because we could have had so much fun with the festival
24:52
setting. I know, but it's that it's it's
24:55
all in a jail cell. It's it's a ploy to get an
24:58
entire town out of the town. That way you can have a town
25:01
built on a stage set. Yeah, and.
25:04
And it's not weird, like you don't have to hire all the
25:07
extras. Yeah, exactly.
25:08
These people can run hooting and hollering down the streets and
25:11
nobody's going to bad night. Yeah, yeah, OK, What are the bad
25:15
things about this movie? OK.
25:17
So the opening takes place in 1974 and then 19434 1974.
25:26
And then we cut ahead 29 years to 2003 because that's when the
25:29
first movie takes place. So that that time jump makes
25:32
sense. That's 29 years.
25:34
Which means that three Finger was the the child three finger
25:41
is credited as being 8 years old and IMDb.
25:44
So that means that at this point he is 37 years old.
25:49
You cannot tell me that 57 year old like a man is 37 years old.
25:53
They all look way too old for what their actual age is, and I
25:56
wish they had just like, let them be older.
25:59
Just let them be older. In the flashback or set the
26:02
flashback farther. Yeah, I guess I don't really
26:04
understand why they had to be kids.
26:07
Yeah, like also their facial hair is very their.
26:10
Their body hair in general is very inconsistent because the
26:12
oldest one Sawtooth. He's got an appropriate mountain
26:17
men beard, but three finger is bald on top, which happens to 37
26:23
year olds. I'm not saying that that can't
26:25
happen, but I am saying he's got plenty of other hair sprouting
26:29
out the sides. It's all white, yeah.
26:31
But Steve Martin? He was white in his early 30s,
26:34
That's true. He still has a very full head of
26:36
hair though. Hey, man, you can't.
26:38
Sometimes you lose. You know.
26:40
You lose your hair and you have. Wife, I'm just saying he's got
26:42
no facial hair whatsoever. So that implies that.
26:45
Yeah. I was going to say that implies
26:47
that either he can't grow facial hair, he can only grow like head
26:52
hair, but not over his entire head, or he shaves, I don't
26:55
know. There's a lot of questions I
26:57
have. And this, like this is the whole
26:59
like the Friday 13th part two thing where I'm like did he why
27:03
does he have a broken toilet in his house that he built out in
27:05
the woods? He only can grow a facial hair,
27:08
but he wants actual hair, so he shaves off his facial hair and
27:12
puts that on his head. I just this it's all and then
27:16
cuz so then that means he's making the choice to have the
27:20
Three Stooges curly look. Well, he saw Three Stooges back
27:24
at the sanitarium and he's like, I want to be that man.
27:27
So yeah, anyway, that's bad, mostly because I have to start
27:32
doing math in my head and then I start wondering about things,
27:34
and it leads me to wondering about other things.
27:36
And I guess it's not really necessarily a fault of the
27:40
movie. It's just I think maybe math
27:41
wasn't done when they wrote back how far the the flashback scene
27:46
was and how young the kids was meant to.
27:49
Because also, I wouldn't have thought that they were 8-9 and
27:51
10 at first. I was like, OK, well, maybe like
27:55
15/16/17 like in my head 'cause I did refer to them as kids and
27:58
I was like, OK, maybe, you know, that's a little bit more reason
28:00
anyway. But they're the only children
28:02
there, too. Everybody else is adults.
28:05
Yeah, which is also not how those types of facilities tend
28:07
to work. So anyway, that's that's what
28:11
was happening in in my head, yeah.
28:15
And it distracted from the movie.
28:16
So that's the entire. Time, you're thinking.
28:19
About I really was 'cause I like when we see Three Finger.
28:23
And I was like, well, he looks as old as he ever has.
28:25
And I'm not saying that like 50 something is old.
28:30
I'm just saying it's a lot older than 37, which is what the movie
28:34
is now canonically saying he was right.
28:38
And also here's the other thing that means they are at least
28:41
trimming their hair some. So how are they doing that?
28:44
I want to see like a Day in the Life, you know, like MTV Crib
28:48
style of them in this prequel setting.
28:52
That would be no, I'm thinking like that, right?
28:55
There would be a groundbreaking documentary that would be played
28:59
at the festivals, right? Be a hit.
29:02
Yes. Following the hillbillies from
29:04
West Virginia and watching them eat people.
29:07
Yeah, I just like. I want to see.
29:09
I want to see it. I want to see how they're like
29:12
because clearly they are doing some form of grooming, you know
29:16
what I mean? Dream sequel.
29:18
That yeah, no, that's my dream sequel is I want, I want MTV
29:22
Cribs. I wanted to be like a
29:25
monumentary, like a fountain. Like a Leslie Vernon type thing.
29:27
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
29:28
I wanted to be something like that, where they actually are
29:31
interviewing the hillbillies and they can't.
29:33
No, I don't even care. Like, I we've seen enough of
29:36
their cannibalism. I get how that works.
29:38
We've seen their their traps that they set up.
29:40
We know about truck, truck, like, we've got all of that.
29:44
I, I dude, I just want to know, like the minutiae of their daily
29:48
life. You just reminded me of
29:50
something just the same. Like, I know how cannibalism.
29:54
No, I know how cannibalism works because I forgot from one of my
29:59
fun facts. Apparently they, like, released
30:01
with us as a promotional material, like a cannibal
30:05
cookbook. Oh yeah, I guess mostly because
30:08
of that scene where they're doing like, the fondue.
30:11
Fondunial. Fondunial, as Jesse calls it.
30:16
And that was my other thing that I thought, like, feels like a
30:18
weird kind of a wink and a nod because they're cannibals and
30:22
they kill Daniel by pulling out his liver.
30:25
And I'm like, you can't tell me that's not a handful.
30:28
Lecter. Like a wink and a nod.
30:29
I didn't. Even think about.
30:31
It I wish that like in the background we'd seen like an
30:34
industrial sized can of like fava beans or something.
30:37
You. Know that would be great.
30:38
Yeah, Apparently that was like his, one of his favorite parts
30:42
of the movie. He thought it was hilarious,
30:43
actually, like to him, He thought it was funny because
30:46
they're making fondue out of him and people are outside taking a
30:50
vote of whether or not to save. Yeah, like he's not dead yet.
30:54
Yeah. And they're like, he's a donner.
30:56
And he's like, no, I'm, I'm still.
30:58
I'm still alive. And apparently that's how
31:00
Daniel's actor see what was his name?
31:03
Daniel, Where are you? Dean Armstrong?
31:06
That's how he got his part as they needed a good screamer.
31:08
He was a good screamer. I referred to him as my in my
31:11
notes as Beck Ben Knott. Beck Ben.
31:13
Not He is not Beck Ben. OK, more bad.
31:18
I thought that three fingers looked pretty fucking terrible
31:24
makeup applied wise. You know what I mean?
31:26
Well, it's oh God, what is the original actor's name?
31:30
He's in a lot of stuff. Yeah, I know what you're talking
31:33
about. Yeah, he's the guy in urban
31:34
legend. Yeah, fuck, I can't remember
31:36
his. Name, and he's also in a quick
31:38
throwaway scene in the software. Oh dude.
31:41
And not Ben. Not that Dean Armstrong here.
31:47
He's gonna be in next week's movie.
31:49
He's in Saw 3D. He is in Saw three.
31:54
DI know. I had no idea either.
31:55
Is he one of the ones in the front in the beginning with the
31:58
seesaw? No, I don't think so.
32:03
He might. Be I think he could look good in
32:04
a little wooden Dutch Boy cover all.
32:08
I think set up fantastic in that, but The thing is I think
32:13
that that point of that is that it was supposed to be high
32:15
scores and I was reading an interview from him and
32:18
apparently he is like older. Oh, his age is just as
32:22
questionable as three fingers in this movie.
32:24
Well, he even admitted it. He was like, yeah, like I I.
32:27
I said, who is this chaperone coming with him on their weekend
32:31
ski trip? He got into acting a little bit
32:33
late. I'm not mad at him for that.
32:35
It is just the unfortunate reality that with a lot of
32:37
horror movies they went like. They couldn't.
32:40
Look, man, it takes age and experience to get a scream.
32:44
Somebody that is being turned into fondue.
32:46
That is believable, yeah. OK, we need to get back on
32:49
track. What is your dad?
32:51
Well, three fingers looks like shit.
32:53
It looks like he was wearing a mask half the time.
32:55
I think that I think him and. Well, no, I I looked a little
32:58
bit out of him. No, I I I saw some of the behind
33:02
the scenes footage and it looked like it was actually stuff that
33:04
was applied. I just think that having him
33:08
play one of the kids there too, like one of the students, kind
33:13
of spread them a little bit too thin of having to get him in
33:16
costume for that and then also three finger.
33:18
That makes sense. Yeah, the other two looked fine.
33:21
I thought. The only other bad thing I have
33:23
for this is that we don't have any arrows, and this is the only
33:27
movie in the entire franchise apparently that has no arrows.
33:30
Even the remake has arrows. It has no Hooten and Holler and
33:33
which I think is more egregious, but.
33:35
Yeah, if I if you're going to remove one, remove the arrows.
33:38
I'm more OK with that. Hooten Holler is just part of
33:40
the DNA of the series. Yeah, but yeah, I wanted at
33:44
least some arrow action. Like, you know, when they're out
33:46
there on the snowmobiles chasing.
33:48
Travis is from Appalachia. He can confirm that Hooton and
33:52
hollering is a part of the culture.
33:53
It's just kind of how we do. It's kind of how we speak.
33:57
OK, ugly. What is ugly about this movie?
33:59
Oh, definitely. The way they talk about people
34:02
that need mental health facilities.
34:05
Yeah. There's a lot of like,
34:07
derogatory language thrown around, which I understand once
34:10
they start murdering their friends, 'cause you just start
34:12
insulting people at that point. That's fair.
34:15
It's more like when they're like reading through the files and
34:17
they're like you a freak, freak, freak.
34:20
And I just, I don't. Sometimes people are sick and
34:26
sometimes you're sick in your head instead of in your body.
34:28
And I don't like it that it's it's such a thing that our
34:34
society really needs to it. It feels like it's getting
34:37
better in some ways, but we still have a long way to go in
34:42
terms of like being open minded about like mental health and
34:49
yeah. It is kind of nice though,
34:51
thinking like this was as recent as 2011 and 2011 is becoming
34:55
further and further away like it's been 13 years ago, which is
34:58
really. Fucking weird.
34:59
Yeah, this movie has just entered puberty.
35:01
Yeah, this movie is spending 45 minutes in the shower.
35:06
His voice is starting to crack a little bit, just a tad.
35:11
But I think the progress from how people handle it compared to
35:15
this movie to now is pretty solid, honestly.
35:18
For a decade. Yeah.
35:20
Yeah, I guess I got to agree with you.
35:22
I can't really think of anything else.
35:24
I mean, we've talked plenty about, like the exploitation of
35:26
it all in the past three movies, so I don't feel like we really
35:29
need to talk about it in this one so much.
35:30
It's not as egregious in this one, I don't think.
35:32
Like, sometimes I like how it's kind of, like, understood by
35:37
everybody. Like, how are they so powerful?
35:40
How are they so strong? Well, they were.
35:42
They're inbreds and they're hillbillies.
35:44
Oh, OK Yeah. Oh, yeah.
35:46
That makes sense in the West Virginia.
35:48
Yeah, yeah, West Virginia. Yeah, yeah.
35:53
No, it's definitely one of those that, like, they've just kind of
35:55
leaned really hard into it after the first one or the first one
35:58
was meant to be like, Oh my God, people like those are really out
36:00
there. And then after that, it was
36:02
like, no, this isn't real. So we're just going to be as
36:04
stupid as fucking possible with it.
36:06
And I think that's how you get a good, dumb, fun movie like this.
36:09
I agree. Yeah, OK, Absurd.
36:14
I'm going to say the party scene when they first get there,
36:18
'cause it takes them a little bit to get going.
36:20
And I think Declan O'Brien O'Connor was definitely like
36:23
trying to get them, like, loosened up.
36:25
I wouldn't be surprised if he gave them like actual Scotch,
36:28
because by the end, when they're racing each other in the
36:31
wheelchairs, I think that was. Legit, yeah.
36:33
I I do think he was having them improv.
36:36
That whole scene though, also them just like sucking and
36:43
fucking in the dorm room together like you.
36:46
Think that's absurd or real? That's absurd.
36:48
OK, that's my second absurd. Sorry.
36:50
When I said also, that's what I meant.
36:52
Yeah, they were just having a full blown orgy in there.
36:55
Well, and if that's the case, it's kind of a lame orgy,
36:58
because they should just be. I'm gonna use a term from
37:01
another podcast, They should just be full ball of snakes at
37:04
that point, You know what I mean?
37:05
Yeah, that's there's limbs and organs and yeah, exactly like
37:11
that's. If we're gonna do an orgy, go
37:13
all the way. You know what I mean?
37:15
Just. Fucking describe them as organs.
37:17
That was the least hot way to describe I'm an orgy.
37:22
Yeah, well. Bring your organs over here.
37:25
Yeah, yeah, let. Me let me.
37:28
Let me get off on that organ. Listen, I think there's worse
37:33
ways to describe genitals, such as the word genital.
37:39
That's just too clinical, you know what I mean?
37:42
Organs is even further in that direction.
37:44
Yeah, but it's just weird enough that it can maybe almost be
37:46
kinky. No, no.
37:49
For like the cannibals, maybe. I think that that's when it gets
37:53
kind of cool with them. OK, my absurd is that they
37:57
officially establish Hoot and Holler as a language in this
38:01
movie. Oh, it's in the opening is like,
38:03
they just grunt and they hoot and holler and that's just how
38:06
they communicate. Yeah, not just them
38:08
communicating with each other is how they communicate with the
38:11
other patients. That's.
38:12
How they speak. That's how they all speak.
38:14
I feel like they brought that language and introduced it to
38:17
that patients there. Everybody's like, wow, this is
38:19
fucking. Groundbreaking.
38:20
And you're like, you know what? Hooting and hollering.
38:22
This is way more. This is the most fun I've had
38:24
talking in a long time. God, I don't have to think of
38:26
words anymore. It's amazing.
38:28
You just express how you feel and it just kind of, it's kind
38:32
of how Talia talks. So that's all the time.
38:34
Like she'll go, That's like, oh, that's very serious.
38:38
Or like the other night when Talia got mad at Zoe and we said
38:41
Talia be nice to Zoe and Zoe went.
38:44
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was a hauler.
38:46
Yeah. OK, OK, So what do you rate this
38:50
thing? Oh, let's see.
38:52
I'm going to pitchforks ready, folks.
38:55
I'm going to give this an 875. I love this.
38:59
Movie. I think it's so much fun.
39:01
Thank you. I'm glad that you went there
39:02
too. I'm going to give it, dude.
39:06
I'll. I'll match you.
39:08
Let's fucking go there. I didn't give my order of the
39:13
movies before. Are we going to do like a recap
39:16
of this one when we talk about all these like we have our
39:18
franchises? I don't know.
39:21
We'll figure that out in two or three years when I finally
39:24
relent to talking about Wrong Turn 6 on air.
39:26
OK, I'll leave those out my in order.
39:30
In this order wrong turn 1423. So very similar to mine, yeah.
39:37
OK. And then I think we have to rank
39:40
5-6 and 2021 separately 'cause they're almost.
39:44
Five is below 3:00 and 6:00 and then seven cause 7 is just
39:50
fucking. Awful.
39:51
I don't even know what I call it.
39:52
Seven 'cause it's like it's a full remake.
39:54
It's just it's so it's such a shift.
39:56
OK. Anyway, are we ready to talk
39:57
about this? She is.
39:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's, let's talk about it, OK?
40:01
So we start off at Glanville in West Virginia 1974.
40:07
We've got Doctor Ryan and he's bringing in somebody.
40:12
A woman. And I was like doctor, intern,
40:17
therapist at one point. He makes some sort of a comment
40:20
about like your type of therapy. So I think maybe she's like a
40:22
music or therapist or something that.
40:24
'D be interesting if they were introducing that here.
40:26
Wasn't there some movie where we want where they brought in?
40:30
Is Orphan the Orphan prequel? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
40:34
right. Yeah.
40:35
Music therapist? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:37
So here's the thing, I love Doctor Ryan.
40:42
The way the actor is portraying him it, and I told Travis this.
40:46
While you're watching it, it feels very much like the opening
40:49
of malignant where the Doctor is very serious and he's like time
40:52
to cut out. And that's the way this guy like
40:55
talks and he like over acts everything.
40:58
This guy knows what fucking movie he's in and I am here for
41:01
it. Maybe he was the one that
41:03
pitched like, no, this is their language.
41:05
I bet he did. And they holler at each other.
41:08
This is how they communicate. And Declan O'Brien O'Connor was
41:11
like, you're a doctor, so I believe you.
41:14
And the actor was the actor was like, I'm not really a doctor.
41:17
And he goes, you are now OK Anyway, he's explaining how the
41:22
doors are like on a lock system and only one can be open at a
41:26
time. And it's safety.
41:27
It's for patient safety. The ultimate goal is to rehab
41:30
them and get them, you know, back in public interactions.
41:34
And then as soon as he says that, one of the patients grabs
41:37
her by the hair and actually steals her hairpin.
41:41
So yeah, they this is when he warns her she's like, all right,
41:45
these are the Hillocker brothers.
41:48
They got that name because Hilker found them in the woods
41:51
eating what we assume was their parents and then right next to
41:54
that I have ridden in all caps smart, and I was trying to
41:59
figure out why. Because, he said, they're
42:01
probably the smartest patient in.
42:02
Hospital. They are smart.
42:04
He was like, so busy, sick about.
42:08
It I like that you were looking over your notes and being like,
42:11
oh, that is a smart way to name them, yeah.
42:15
OK, so one of them, we get three fingers.
42:17
He ate two of his fingers. He got hungry one day.
42:19
I guess next one is one eye. I like how.
42:23
They got a last name, but they don't get first names much.
42:26
Like, Yeah. Much like Vindy's Baby and Fade
42:30
of The Furious. No names, yeah.
42:32
Name. No name, baby.
42:33
Well, it's not even their last name, Hilker.
42:35
It's just the name of the person that found.
42:36
Them, Yeah. Yeah, so, OK, one eye.
42:38
He ate his own eye. He got hungry too.
42:40
Yeah, well, he stabbed it out first.
42:42
With a fork, yeah. And then saw Tooth was actually
42:45
sawing his teeth up against the wall because he's got extra
42:49
large teeth. I wish we'd seen some more of
42:51
this extra large teeth action. Don't really get much.
42:53
Of it, yeah. I thought it was funny that.
42:54
Mostly all they did was give him a hair lip.
42:57
Yeah, that's what they gave him. It was kind of funny.
42:59
Is like this guy, two fingers in this guy, his eye, this guy.
43:03
It's got big teeth. Yeah, like cool.
43:06
Just got big bug teeth. Yeah, and apparently they've got
43:09
congenital analgesia, which is often a resort of a homogeneous
43:14
gene pool, AKA inbreeding. And then I like how she's like
43:18
West Virginia. Yeah.
43:20
Country roads, if you will. So let's see the brothers demand
43:27
the pin from the other patient once Doctor Ryan and the
43:30
therapist walk past. I'm just going to start calling
43:32
her Harley Quinn. Pretty much, yeah.
43:35
And eventually they can't, cuz he can't figure out how to
43:39
unlock it. So they get the pin from him and
43:41
they are able to unlock it. And I can't watch people picking
43:45
locks without thinking of playing God.
43:49
It was one of the Tom Clancy video games.
43:51
Rama 6. No.
43:54
Splinter Cell. Yes, Splinter Cell and there was
43:56
like all of the lock picking and you actually like saw the inner
43:59
mechanism. So that's what I picture anytime
44:01
I see lock picking. In movies that.
44:03
Is cool, Yeah. And they figured out they get
44:06
out, they kill one of the orderlies E is nose, and then
44:10
they unleash everybody. And of course we get a chaos
44:13
montage set to Buddha noob. Oh.
44:15
My God, I love the music for this.
44:18
It is such a great way to like, have the chaos and then this
44:21
classical music over top of it. And then I also feel like this
44:24
is one of those where Declan O'Brien O'Connor was like, all
44:28
right, chaos. And everybody's like, what?
44:33
So, like. And it's very much like in a mob
44:34
scene, like what we talked about last week with many people not
44:38
sure what to do. Yeah, so we get like some people
44:41
are just having fun together. And then some people are just
44:45
kind of, like twirling around, swirling around.
44:48
The brothers take this doctor, who's actually the doctor,
44:52
Quinn. They take her and they've
44:55
decided that they hate her despite all she said was that
44:58
she wanted to work with them after doctor, Ryan said don't
45:01
bother dealing with them. She goes, no, I want to try and
45:03
work with them. And they're like, yeah, they
45:08
hated that. Yeah, they carted her into a
45:10
room in a wheelchair and they strap her into an electrical
45:13
machine. We see later there's footage
45:15
that these that they were shocked.
45:18
You know who is the person that's shocking them in that
45:19
footage? Who?
45:21
Declan O'Brien O'Connor himself. Oh wow.
45:23
Yeah, he's the one shocking them.
45:25
But here's the other thing is that why are they so mad about
45:27
it if they don't feel pain? Yeah, I feel like they would
45:31
probably enjoy it, you know what I mean?
45:32
Like if you don't, maybe IT folks with like their actual
45:35
like. Like for a minute, it does, Like
45:38
make them feel pain. They like.
45:39
It brings them back into a different reality.
45:42
Oh man, that would be interesting.
45:44
So yeah, they they fry her to death.
45:47
Yeah, that's why I was calling her Harley Quinn.
45:49
He's a very similar. Yeah, yeah.
45:52
And next we have the other doctor, he.
45:56
Is Doctor Ryan? Yeah, he is strapped up.
45:58
They have him tied up in barbed wire.
46:00
Where did the fuck did they get the barbed wire?
46:02
I don't know, But they've got him tied.
46:04
UP hospitals maintain a supply of barbed.
46:06
Apparently they must have only available.
46:08
Must have been left over there from when it was abandoned,
46:10
apparently. And these boys would get along
46:12
with one John Kramer very well, because they set up this feat of
46:18
engineering very quickly. I don't know why, but I thought
46:21
you were gonna say 1 John Cena and I was gonna be like, wow.
46:26
Because we saw you watching for 9:00 last.
46:28
Night. Yeah, that's right.
46:31
Yeah, I would like to see John Cena in a past or No, no, he
46:36
isn't. Like, I wanna see him in a Wrong
46:37
Turn movie. OK, so I see him.
46:41
I did see him. We'll we'll watch it, because
46:43
you can't. See him?
46:45
No, God, that went over my head, OK?
46:48
Like how I completely missed him and Barbie, I literally didn't
46:51
see. Him.
46:51
I can't believe you didn't see him.
46:54
OK, so he is tied up. All of his limbs, barbed wire.
46:58
They pull him apart. He gets.
46:59
Dismembered. Yeah, he is drawn and quartered.
47:01
Yeah, and he did. And this guy, he ends up his
47:04
death too. Like he goes like full cross
47:07
eyed as he's screaming. I love him.
47:09
I need more of this guy in my life.
47:12
He did a great job. Yeah.
47:13
All right, Weston University, 2003.
47:17
There is a fuck session going on.
47:20
We get God, who is this? This is Vincent and.
47:24
Vincent and Jenna. Jenna.
47:26
And Sarah and Bridget. Like the Honestly, this is
47:32
pornographic. Like dude, it's there's.
47:34
Basically Softcore porn here. Yeah, there's.
47:38
I honestly don't know how Vincent isn't penetrating Jenna
47:42
with the way, like how naked they are and how they're
47:45
positioned. Well, I think in some cases when
47:48
they simulate sex like that, they actually have like pieces
47:51
over there to like block it. I hope they were, cuz she was
47:53
like grinding on him and she was full nakes.
47:57
Yeah, she was full nakes. I think he probably would too,
48:00
right? I mean.
48:00
Yeah, I mean, there's a very carefully draped blanket and
48:03
that's the only thing I can think of.
48:04
But I mean, and then we got, we got Bridget and Sarah over
48:08
there. You, you.
48:10
I can tell that they were fully simulating because like she was
48:13
pretending like she was going down on her, but her head was
48:17
like nowhere near, far down enough.
48:19
I guess off they're on their knees.
48:20
It was very Tommy Wiseau like. Yeah, yeah.
48:23
Like, what's the anatomy of? This.
48:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
48:27
Because that was even because how do you get your face that
48:30
close to hers? I think we probably know because
48:33
we get a side shot of her. I was going to say I feel like
48:35
Tiger Rose actress could have had on unders, but no, she
48:39
didn't. She didn't.
48:40
You see her boots? Yeah, we see her butt later.
48:42
So anyway, all right, we got lots of friendship, sex bonding.
48:47
Yeah, Kenya. And then Kenya comes in and
48:50
calls them slut monkeys and rabbits and says that they need
48:54
to be in her car in 5 minutes, naked or not.
48:57
She doesn't say that part, but it's kind of implied.
48:59
That's why she gives them such a short deadline, so you don't
49:01
have time to get dressed. They try and get her to join.
49:03
Yeah, why don't you join? And she's like, oh, I think
49:06
Bridget, we're like that And Bridget's like, I don't mind.
49:09
Boy, that could have got even more hot.
49:11
I think Deco O'Brien was like, we're on a 19 day schedule.
49:14
I wanna go there, but. We can't go there, but we don't
49:17
have time to go there. Yeah, all right.
49:19
So we cut to them at some snowy area.
49:24
They have all arrived there. At the They just don't know.
49:26
They parks their cars and then chaperone, Daniel says.
49:30
Can we just leave our cars here? Yeah, wasn't there a sign saying
49:33
no parking? I don't know.
49:35
There was so much, so much nothing was happening.
49:39
It was just chaos. And I was trying to make take
49:42
notes that made sense 'cause that's the 1st 20 minutes of
49:44
this movie. He is just vaguely organized
49:47
chaos. I agree with him though I worry
49:49
about that shit all the time too.
49:50
Like, can I park here? I was worried about that last
49:52
night whenever we were parked up against the other building when
49:54
we went for dinner. So this is one of my funny thing
49:59
that happened. So they all snowmobile away, but
50:01
one of them is on a a snowboard and I didn't see him holding on
50:05
to the snowmobile. So I thought he was just going
50:07
up a hill. Yeah, just on his own.
50:11
Like not going down the hill he was.
50:12
Doing a real life Tony Hawk pro skater.
50:14
Yeah, I wrote down in this like I know what you're thinking.
50:20
Looks like a Noxzema commercial or something, cuz it's just a
50:24
bunch of just a bunch of attractive teenagers.
50:27
And Daniel, he's he's attractive, he's just also very
50:31
clearly not teenager. And yeah, and they're just like
50:37
hanging out in the snow having fun, beautiful skin, beautiful
50:40
hair. Their hair is gonna remain
50:42
perfect for the rest of the movie, by the way, despite what
50:45
they go through, They're gonna be chased, they're gonna be
50:48
bloody. The only person whose hair gets
50:50
messed up from that is Kyle, and honestly I think it's an
50:53
improvement on his style. Kyle.
50:55
He was true to the era, though. He was.
50:57
I actually think I had that same hairstyle whenever I was that
51:01
age. It was not that age, but back in
51:03
that time. It was, yeah.
51:05
It was. It was, yeah, very swoopy, not
51:08
quite emo, but like close to it. And he is the one who says he's
51:14
been to Porter's cabin plenty of times.
51:16
And it's definitely a right here and everybody else, like, pretty
51:19
sure we're supposed to go left. He goes, no, it's a right.
51:21
And then don't worry, somebody just say it.
51:23
I feel like we're taking a wrong.
51:26
Turn. Yeah, but I forgot to mention
51:28
that the Porter and one of the guys that they're hanging with
51:31
apparently went ahead to the cabin to warm it up for them.
51:34
And you cannot convince me that they didn't name him Porter, so
51:36
that way they couldn't make a joke about Porterhouse leader.
51:40
Oh, damn. That's that is really.
51:43
There's no way that Declan O'Brien O'Connor wasn't writing
51:46
his script and going what's a good name?
51:48
I have to come up with 25 names because I've put so much cannon
51:51
fodder in this movie. What's a good name for one of
51:53
them? Oh, Porter, So I can say
51:55
Porterhouse. There we go.
51:57
Do you think they can? That sounds like a rich kid
51:58
asshole name, and it also sounds like a steak.
52:02
Yeah, you're probably right, honestly.
52:04
OK, so they are lost, Temperatures are dropping, it's
52:08
getting late, but they find a big old building.
52:11
So they're like, OK, we found shelter.
52:13
They're like, I feel like I see something over there.
52:15
It's just like a giant ass filter.
52:18
Yeah, I know. It's just this big ass
52:20
sanitarium. Isn't it also funny that they're
52:23
like, oh cool, let's just go hang out there?
52:24
And they're not worried at all about Porter, who's just.
52:28
Like think Porter's at his cabin 'cause he supposedly went ahead
52:31
to get everything set up. OK.
52:33
And they OK, Yeah, Yeah. And they get in there.
52:37
And we do see somebody being dragged in by the Hillacor Rose
52:41
afterwards. It is Porter.
52:42
And it is Porter we later find out, which we also assume in
52:45
this moment. But yeah, so they get in there
52:49
and they're surprised to see that the water's running.
52:51
And they're like, they must have a maintenance crew to come out
52:54
and run the water so the pipes don't freeze and everybody's
52:56
like, this place is a disaster. There is no maintenance crew
52:59
coming here. Oh well, and that's pretty much
53:02
it. That's pretty.
53:04
So they started exploring around, just checking the place
53:06
out. And to be fair, they were
53:08
concerned about Porter. They wanted to call them that.
53:10
They don't have signal because it's 2003 and that's a
53:13
reasonable expectation. Yeah.
53:16
OK, that's fair. All right, so they go exploring
53:21
around Matt Daniel weeds off the rest follow.
53:24
They find Doctor Brennan Ryan's office, and he left behind a
53:27
mess. They find a bunch of patient.
53:29
Files. And they also find a bottle of
53:32
Scotch that was 30 years old thirty years ago.
53:34
Whoa. So it's extra age.
53:36
Yeah, and these kids do not appreciate it for what it is.
53:40
They are like just straight up chugging, like waterfalling with
53:43
a bottle. Also, that's not gonna last very
53:46
long around that many kids. No, it's not.
53:48
It's absolutely not. So.
53:51
They go looking through rooms. Yeah, Vincent disappears at one
53:55
point and he scares Kenya and Jenna and Kenya's like, this is
53:59
the thing with your pranks, Vincent, is that they you don't
54:03
consider how it hurts other people's feelings and they just
54:06
wanted to establish that quick and hard.
54:08
So that way when he disappeared later, nobody takes it
54:12
seriously. But that ends up being a fucking
54:13
nothing of a plot point because Daniel's the one that gets
54:16
fondue yield. So.
54:17
You're right. Oh dude, that would have been
54:19
way better if it was him. Yeah, 'cause they're like, oh,
54:21
is he fucking with us? Yes, exactly.
54:24
But that's not what ends up happening.
54:26
Damn it, they fucked that up. We got some casual stalking,
54:29
yeah. Socking.
54:30
Yeah, the boys are socking around.
54:32
Vincent is like, OK, I feel like this place has to have a
54:35
generator, so he offers to go find us since everybody's kind
54:38
of pissed at him. Yeah, and he goes downstairs and
54:40
he starts it up. It's incredibly easy to start
54:42
up. A generator for a 2500 square
54:45
foot building apparently isn't. It interesting that the
54:48
hillbillies have been staying at this place for so long and they
54:51
just have never turned on the power apparently.
54:54
Well, if they don't feel pain, I assume that also don't feel.
54:58
Yeah, yeah. How do they know when they're
55:00
hungry? Did they just eat?
55:02
Oh yeah, I think it's definitely an eat out of boredom kind of
55:05
thing, OK? And I'm sure they do feel like a
55:07
need to survive, like they need the fuel to keep moving at some
55:10
point. Yeah.
55:11
OK. Fair enough.
55:13
OK, So they got the power on that means parties on you?
55:16
Don't do human fondue for survival purposes, Travis.
55:21
No, that's when you're bored. Just because they were snowed
55:24
in, It was a snowstorm, so they had to.
55:25
Who taught? Them about fondue.
55:27
Dude, they're not uncivilized, you know what I mean?
55:30
Well, they've been in this hospital since they were 8-9 and
55:33
ten years old. But they've been to the city.
55:38
They've they had like that one. They're like Amish people, like
55:41
they like had rum Springer. They partied for like a minute
55:44
and they're like, OK, I I the cannibal life is.
55:46
More yeah, that's yeah, I'm going to go back to my roots.
55:48
It's it's not much, but it's honest.
55:51
Exactly. Yeah.
55:52
So OK, power's on, party's on. They are all having a good time.
55:56
Mm hmm. Boys are watching through a two
55:59
way mirror though. Yep.
56:01
And then this all leads up to them all wheelchairing into the
56:05
auditorium doing like a wheelchair race.
56:07
That thing Daniel has found a movie reel.
56:11
Or not. Daniel.
56:12
One of the girls. I can't remember which one.
56:14
Bridget. Let's just say Bridget I.
56:16
Didn't write down who it was. So she found one of the like a
56:19
movie reel. So they go to a projector
56:21
because apparently they have a giantess projector.
56:23
Then they start pointing. At the auditorium and the screen
56:25
so. That's true.
56:27
So they start playing the movie. It is footage of experimental
56:32
testing that was going on back in the day.
56:34
It's black and white footage. Decco and O'Brien.
56:36
O'Connor is over there. Shocking.
56:38
Is it the boys? I think, yeah, I think it's one
56:41
eye, OK? And then Lauren says she
56:44
remembers the stories from up here and how her brother used to
56:47
scare her. Talking about the cannibals in
56:49
this area and how they were at this hospital and they escaped
56:52
and that they were going to come get me every time we drove past.
56:56
Yeah, so that's when Daniel's like, all right, it's time to go
56:59
to bed. Yeah, he's like, I am horny.
57:02
Let's go fuck in some beds that haven't been cleaned in almost
57:06
half a century. Dusty old day, yeah.
57:08
Boy, are my allergies going to be going.
57:11
Yeah, now these kids are going to be absolutely perfect when
57:14
they wake up the next morning. Not a hair out of place for
57:18
them. Nope.
57:19
We get Vincent wakes up and he's like, sleep, I'm going to go
57:25
explore and his girlfriend's like, OK, like.
57:28
She's like, whatever. That's like a such a weird thing
57:30
to do, like, I'm just going to go explore.
57:33
I mean, I guess like if you can't sleep, you know.
57:37
I guess so. They can't go anywhere else.
57:39
I think that's probably unrealistic.
57:41
I think mostly he had been like, I can't sleep.
57:43
Can you please, like give me a handy or something that'll so
57:47
relax me? Babe, that is just.
57:49
That would be what he would say, yeah, yeah, for sure.
57:51
And she would say no. Really, what's happening?
57:54
Is that Shawn Skis? Is that his name?
57:56
Yeah, no, that's Kyle. That's who.
57:59
That is, Kyle is. No, you're right.
58:00
No, it is Vince. Yeah, yeah.
58:02
OK. Yeah, so Shawn Skis was like,
58:04
hey, I can't sleep, wink wink. I gotta go explore, make a put
58:10
on my prosthetics. Yeah, exactly.
58:13
I gotta get removed from the movie because I gotta turn into
58:15
3 fingernails. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:17
Yeah, so on his way to exploring, he stumbles upon
58:20
Sarah and Bridget who are fucking.
58:23
And you know, that's just like a thing that's happened.
58:26
Yeah, this is the one that's on it.
58:28
Somehow it's more fetishy than the group sex in the beginning.
58:31
I. Think it's because he's perven
58:32
on him? Yeah.
58:33
And she's into it. Like she sees him do that and
58:35
she wings out him. Yeah.
58:37
So yeah, there's like a whole thing going on there.
58:39
I feel like Declan O'Brien O'Connor hasn't heard of
58:41
scissoring though, because he just keeps having them go down
58:43
on each other. They just like Worrel,
58:45
apparently, You know, that's their jam.
58:46
Saying so, he keeps walking and he stumbles upon a body in an
58:52
office and he figures out it's Porter.
58:54
So he walks up to him and turns around.
58:58
Porter's dead, so he turns around and.
59:01
He gets stabbed right through the head is.
59:03
It sawtooth. Yeah, yeah, he's there.
59:05
He says right in the hedge. Shishka bobs him.
59:07
Yeah. All right.
59:09
So the next morning they can't find Vincent.
59:13
You know what's ridiculous about this?
59:15
They're all like, where's Vincent?
59:16
And everybody's like, I don't know.
59:17
And then Sarah comes in and she's like, I'm sorry I've been
59:20
running. Where the fuck's she been
59:21
running? She said the night before that
59:23
she was gonna do stairs in the morning and everybody else had
59:25
been smoking and drinking and they're like, no, absolutely
59:27
we're not. Gonna.
59:28
She said she was doing stairs. Yeah, OK, I missed that
59:30
completely. All right, That makes a lot more
59:32
sense. And she is in really good shape.
59:34
She's in very good shape, but I I just thought it was funny.
59:37
She's like, yeah, I'm gonna go for a run.
59:38
Yeah. So yeah, they are like, well,
59:42
let's just go find him. All of their stuff is gone,
59:45
which, listen, cannibals aside, people really do just like chill
59:52
and abandoned buildings. We watch a lot of videos about
59:55
this kind of stuff. That would be an actual real
59:58
concern is that your shit can be stolen by somebody who's
1:00:01
squatting in this giant building and assuming you know that they
1:00:04
can think of it as their home, and then a bunch of horny fucks
1:00:07
come in and destroy things for a little bit.
1:00:10
It's a big ass building, man. There's a lot of room for
1:00:12
people. Like, and what if the squatter
1:00:14
was in there? I was like, I don't know how to
1:00:15
operate a generator. What do I do to keep this
1:00:18
responsibly running? When you guys leave, you have
1:00:21
left me with so much, so much ownership that I now have to to
1:00:25
have to take care of. That's why I stole the stuff.
1:00:29
Yeah. I'm going to stole the stuff.
1:00:30
That way they can't go anywhere, yeah.
1:00:32
So yeah, they like. I need you guys to teach me how
1:00:34
to use the generator. Yeah, so he doesn't, like
1:00:38
communicate that because he just hoots.
1:00:40
And hollers, yeah, because he only knows the Hoot and holler
1:00:41
language. So UPS the group, they split up
1:00:45
and they're like, we're going to meet in the auditorium in 30
1:00:47
minutes. So the basement group finds
1:00:50
tools in a cage and like 50 clocks.
1:00:53
Yeah, there's so many clocks here.
1:00:55
What the fuck is up with that? And it's like, and at first when
1:00:58
he's like, whoa guys, look at this.
1:00:59
I was like, I know it's a lot of clocks, but he's actually
1:01:02
referring to all the. Two clocks.
1:01:04
It took me an embarrassing amount of time to figure out
1:01:06
what was happening and the. Other crew are up there and they
1:01:10
find Porter's where Porter's body was.
1:01:13
They see the blood. Yeah, and because they don't
1:01:15
know Porter's spent there, they say it's Vincent, so they're a
1:01:17
little bit concerned. Vince.
1:01:20
Oh, vinces girlfriend Jenna. I don't know her name at this
1:01:22
point. She sees Porter being prepped to
1:01:27
be eaten, and so she tries to run back to the rest of the
1:01:29
group. Everybody else is convened in
1:01:31
the auditorium and she is trying to tell everybody that they're
1:01:34
in danger when all of a sudden Porters jacket is bundled up and
1:01:38
tossed in the middle of the group.
1:01:40
And when they undo the jacket, they discover his head inside.
1:01:43
And that's when, like, everything's happening.
1:01:46
Yeah, and then? Suddenly a noose comes out of
1:01:48
nowhere and gets one of them. I can't remember which one it
1:01:50
was. I don't think we did we.
1:01:52
Ever, ever got. Her name?
1:01:53
Ever got her name? She's a short haired blonde
1:01:56
woman. Let's see.
1:01:56
It must have been Dude, I don't even know if I wrote her down
1:02:01
here. Right.
1:02:02
Honestly, I don't think I did. I literally don't think we ever
1:02:04
got our name for her. But she she's Kyle's girlfriend.
1:02:08
Yeah. She gets the barbed wire news
1:02:10
that we were talking about earlier.
1:02:11
He's like trying to stop her. And at a certain point it's like
1:02:15
just give up, man. Just get.
1:02:16
Yeah, like you're literally just killing her.
1:02:18
But also it's probably better than her being eaten alive.
1:02:20
So yeah, 6 1/2 dozen the other so.
1:02:23
Yeah, he he pulls on the legs trying for year and decapitates
1:02:27
her blood everywhere so they run off.
1:02:31
So where am I at with bloody boyfriend?
1:02:36
OK, they run out to the snowmobiles because they are
1:02:40
trying to go and get away. Oh, I was making a note about
1:02:42
the Evil Deadshot. Oh, OK.
1:02:44
That's what that notion is, OK. So OK, they run outside.
1:02:47
Yeah, they're trying to get into the snowmobiles, but one of them
1:02:50
has the spark plugs missing. Actually, they all.
1:02:52
Do. It's not the spark plugs, which
1:02:54
is what they say in this later. It's the spark plug wires.
1:02:57
Oh. The spark plug wires.
1:02:58
Here I don't know the difference between the two and I don't know
1:03:00
if it matters, but it does change from here till later in
1:03:04
the movie. I don't think that they actually
1:03:05
know. I think that they're just.
1:03:07
Yeah. Things They don't know how this
1:03:09
shit works. They don't know how to repair a
1:03:11
snowmobile. Yeah, it.
1:03:12
Must be the spark plugs. Yeah, they're like, clearly any
1:03:15
type of thing doesn't work. It's because of the spark plugs.
1:03:17
Also, there was a point last night where I was trying to
1:03:19
write down Snowmobile. Couldn't think of the word.
1:03:21
And I looked at Travis and I said, what are those called?
1:03:23
And he said they're not Jet skis, which is kind of scary
1:03:25
because I was gonna write snow Jet Skis.
1:03:27
He had no way of knowing that I was gonna write that.
1:03:30
Yeah, there's snow jet skis. So yeah, they point out that
1:03:34
they don't have jackets either, so it's not like they can really
1:03:36
continue on the foot. They decide they're going to run
1:03:38
inside and hole up in that office they were in before.
1:03:40
But one of them, there is one jacket and Lauren takes it and
1:03:44
she's like, OK, I'm not staying here, I'm going to go get.
1:03:47
Help. She's like, I'm the strongest
1:03:48
skier. I will get down the hill and I
1:03:50
will go for help. Yeah, so they don't fight her on
1:03:53
it. So she goes and then yeah,
1:03:55
that's when Daniel's like, OK, we got to go back in there and
1:03:59
fight. We got to go find things to
1:04:01
fight back with them. Yeah.
1:04:02
So Kyle, Sarah and Daniel decide that they're going to go to the
1:04:05
basement for those tools. That way they've got something
1:04:07
to protect themselves with. Well, Bridget, Kenya and Sarah
1:04:14
No, Sarah went downstairs. Jenna.
1:04:16
Jenna. They stay upstairs.
1:04:19
Then we get what I think is a slumber party massacre to
1:04:22
reference with the drill through the door.
1:04:24
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, right.
1:04:26
I got Big Slumber Party Massacre just like the first one too with
1:04:29
Just with the giant. Yeah.
1:04:31
Because, I mean, what if he had an actual guitar drill?
1:04:34
I would love that, but then it just it makes me think of like
1:04:37
that scene where he's singing Let's Buzz.
1:04:40
Yeah, yeah. That's what it means, yeah.
1:04:42
Right down to the, like, clearly cardboard door and everything.
1:04:47
Don't even give me the guitar. Just give me like a little like.
1:04:50
Shitty. Like a a little jig down the
1:04:52
hallway while he's like got the little drill, you know?
1:04:55
He is. I was going.
1:04:56
To try. I was going to try and holler to
1:04:59
Let's buzz, but I I don't have that in me right now.
1:05:02
Oh. It's OK.
1:05:04
OK, so as the other three are going down to get the tools,
1:05:08
three fingers chasing them with an axe.
1:05:11
And Daniel gets grabbed as they get back upstairs.
1:05:16
And they don't realize until Sarah and Kyle have gotten back
1:05:19
up there that he's not behind them.
1:05:22
So he is being tied to a table. That's what we see.
1:05:25
And then we cut to the office where they realize that he's not
1:05:28
back, he's not coming, and they argue about what the plan is and
1:05:31
Bridge is like. We need to leave.
1:05:34
They're using him as bait. He's clearly already dead.
1:05:38
I love how she immediately jumps like, well he is dead so we do
1:05:41
not need to go after him and the other's like, well, he might not
1:05:45
be dead, he's like no. And then they hear screaming and
1:05:47
he's like help, help me please friends friends help me please.
1:05:52
Please help me friends. And so she's like, I think we
1:05:56
should vote because I still think he's almost dead.
1:05:58
And if you're my. Friend help me.
1:06:00
And she says all in favor of staying here, and it's just her
1:06:05
hand. And all in favor of rescuing
1:06:07
Daniel And Ariel's hands go up and they look at him.
1:06:10
And then Martin from My Bloody Valentine 3D just comes up from
1:06:13
the shadows and he just looks at her disappointingly.
1:06:17
Must be Axel, Sister, I I love the thought that they even
1:06:22
entertained the idea of taking a vote, right?
1:06:25
Like they did it just to make her feel as shitty as possible.
1:06:28
Honestly, if she didn't die near the end of this movie, I think
1:06:31
Sarah would have broken up during.
1:06:33
She was like, you have no loyalty, yeah.
1:06:35
She showed her true. College.
1:06:36
Yeah. She's getting very, like, very
1:06:38
disgusted with her as this goes on, Yeah.
1:06:41
So OK, the boys are cutting up Daniel hard.
1:06:44
Yeah, they are taking out chunks of skin.
1:06:47
Yeah, they're taking some titties, some thigh.
1:06:50
Some. Liver.
1:06:51
Some liver. Well, they save the liver for
1:06:53
last. Because, like, once it becomes
1:06:55
clear that the friends are not going to help him, he's like,
1:06:57
please just kill me. Please just just kill me.
1:06:59
You can eat me after I'm dead. I don't even care.
1:07:02
Just kill me. So they rip open his rib cage
1:07:07
and then they yank out his liver, which apparently is
1:07:10
deadly immediately. I think that combined with.
1:07:14
The shocks and yeah. Honestly, this whole scene is
1:07:18
very upsetting, though. It is terrifying just seeing
1:07:22
this shit. Yeah, I was putting myself in
1:07:24
his shoes there, like what would like, my friends abandoned me.
1:07:27
They don't. They're not my friends anymore.
1:07:29
They obviously don't give a shit.
1:07:30
He's like and I bet our cars were towed.
1:07:32
Yeah, I bet the spark plugs actually did work, but, and I
1:07:38
love how they make it downstairs and they're like, they don't
1:07:40
even rush in. Kyle's like, all right, I'm
1:07:43
going to go get some Recon. So they all voted that they're
1:07:47
going to go help him. And Kyle's like, wait, let me go
1:07:49
see what's happening. And Kyle goes in there, sees
1:07:52
them like fondunuling him, but he doesn't see the Hannibal
1:07:56
lecturing of it. So he goes back and they're
1:07:58
like, all right, we're going to go in there.
1:07:59
So after Daniel's already dead, they come in, they get the jump
1:08:03
on the. But not even sin.
1:08:04
They're like, like, they have to formulate a plan first.
1:08:06
So she's like, all right, we're not going to go in there, but
1:08:08
without having a plan, we're going to die.
1:08:10
Thankfully, I have a plan. Yeah, so they get the jump on
1:08:15
them, they chase, they run, and they end up locking the brothers
1:08:19
in their old cell. I like that it was the exact
1:08:22
same. Cell.
1:08:22
Yeah. Well, and it ends up becoming
1:08:24
important later. So one of oh, before that.
1:08:30
Before that, one of the brothers chokes on one of Daniel's
1:08:36
fingers. Oh yeah, and.
1:08:38
The other brothers do not know basic Heinlich, and they just
1:08:42
kind of swat at him. Yeah, that's a little
1:08:47
swapsicker. It's so.
1:08:48
Funny because they're just like. See, I feel like that's maybe
1:08:53
they did watch 3 Stooges growing up, because that felt like a
1:08:56
Three Stooges moment right there.
1:08:57
That's. Yeah, so one eye actually took
1:09:00
out his eye, 'cause? He was.
1:09:02
Holy shit. Yeah.
1:09:04
Damn. Wow.
1:09:06
We're, We're building the. Wall here.
1:09:08
It's got, I'm telling you, it's going to be in their MTV Crews
1:09:11
episode. Yeah 'cause we're going to make
1:09:12
it. We're making the next strong
1:09:14
turn, OK? So they're all locked in.
1:09:17
Kyle is going to keep watch while they all try and find the
1:09:20
spark plugs. 1st we have a quick cut to Lauren in the woods and I
1:09:24
need to talk about because this fucking dummy took off her
1:09:28
gloves. Oh yeah, that was a bad call.
1:09:31
Well, she had to make a fire. She makes a tiny, modest little
1:09:34
fire. And then she doesn't put her
1:09:36
gloves back on and she's holding her hands over this fire.
1:09:39
And then snow falls on top of her, on top of the fire and on
1:09:43
top of her hands. And now she's definitely gonna
1:09:45
get frostbite. And then she just started crying
1:09:47
and kind of keels over in the snow.
1:09:48
And that's where she we find her dad later.
1:09:50
Is that where she does? I'm pretty sure, I thought.
1:09:53
She made it a little bit further.
1:09:54
'Cause she was no 'cause, the irony was that she was so close
1:09:57
to the road. Yeah, OK.
1:09:58
Yeah. I think this is where she just
1:10:00
gave up. OK, I love how like the movie
1:10:03
just kind of forgets about her. Like.
1:10:04
Everybody was like, Oh yeah, and I guess we.
1:10:06
Should update on Warren. So Kyle says he wants to light
1:10:10
the brothers on fire, and they're he's getting ready to do
1:10:14
it, and they talk him out of it. They're like, listen, that's not
1:10:16
a thing that you can undo. Like as a human, you can't undo
1:10:20
murder. And so he's like, all right,
1:10:22
fine, we'll just take turns watching them self.
1:10:24
Defense, man, I think it's called for.
1:10:26
I think it's justified in this sense.
1:10:28
So the others decide that they're going to go look for the
1:10:30
spark plug wires and they'll leave in the morning.
1:10:33
No matter what. Kyle's going to stay on guard
1:10:36
first while they search and he tells the brothers as soon as
1:10:40
the women are out of earshot that he is going to murdered
1:10:43
them. He's going to say that he forgot
1:10:45
something, he's going to come back in, he's going to light
1:10:47
them on fire and so they're dying.
1:10:48
And then he doesn't pay any attention to three finger
1:10:51
reaching into the toilet and I'm pulling out there but.
1:10:54
Sure. Just fucking one of them on fire
1:10:55
right there. Just fucking do it, dude.
1:10:57
We're going to do it. He falls asleep.
1:10:59
They all fall asleep looking for the spark plug wires.
1:11:02
Like, whatever. Let's just fall asleep and try
1:11:03
again in the morning. And yeah, while he is asleep,
1:11:06
they. Unlock the.
1:11:09
Yeah, again from the toilet, they.
1:11:10
Splinter Cell it No, it's their toilet.
1:11:13
It's the toilet. Yeah and yeah, they pick the
1:11:15
walk and then they grab him. They punch him first.
1:11:18
They wake him up with punch, face punch.
1:11:23
Okay. So the girls are in the room and
1:11:27
they hear somebody running down the hall and they peek through
1:11:30
the drill hole. What an insult to Kyle, because
1:11:34
they're like it's the small one. Yeah, I know he they were doing
1:11:38
back at Jason with him. They even changed his clothes.
1:11:41
I thought like he had like a flannel on.
1:11:43
Yeah, it was a yeah, they swapped him out.
1:11:45
Yeah, it's. And yeah, that's what I'm
1:11:47
saying. I really feel like I wish we
1:11:49
could have seen more from Declan O'Brien O'Connor because it
1:11:52
feels like he's got a a lot of love for this side of the genre,
1:11:55
you know what I mean? And you know what?
1:11:57
I bet he would have loved my whole relating this to Friday
1:12:00
the 13th Part 2 and wondering how Jason knows how to do
1:12:04
toilets in a wood shack, because, you know, you feel like
1:12:08
he would appreciate that, yeah? How?
1:12:10
How do? How do they.
1:12:11
So they the guy's not talking, he's just making grunts, which I
1:12:15
understand, though, you know, it's kind of hooting and
1:12:17
hollering innocence. He's been inducted.
1:12:19
He's been initiated, yeah. What?
1:12:21
What would they call him? He's got his tongue missing like
1:12:23
no tongue. Was that his hillbilly name?
1:12:25
I don't know. I just finished rereading
1:12:29
concrete games, so I'm just like a boxes.
1:12:31
OK, OK, so they're like, OK, let's just go out there.
1:12:35
Like there's three of us. One of them, he's a small and we
1:12:38
can fucking take him. So they all.
1:12:40
They don't question how easy it is to stab him.
1:12:42
He's. Running away.
1:12:43
Man, And they just keep stabbing him.
1:12:45
Stabs, stabs, stabs. So many stabs.
1:12:48
Like his body becomes liquid. Yeah, at a certain point they
1:12:52
pulverize him into a fucking juice.
1:12:54
Yeah. And they take the bag off and
1:12:56
they realize it's Kyle. Yeah, And then they're chased by
1:12:59
the brothers who were hiding out and waiting with the drill.
1:13:02
The front door has been chained up because, in addition to
1:13:05
barbed wire, hospitals keep chains and padlocks ready at all
1:13:08
times, of course. So they go to find their way
1:13:13
out, they head to the attic and they find the brothers like base
1:13:16
camp. I guess this is where they
1:13:17
prefer to stay and there's a pile of coats suggesting that
1:13:22
they are not the first people that have wound up here, lost in
1:13:25
this now. Yeah, so they put on the coats
1:13:28
and they bust out a window before, not before locking the
1:13:31
door with a piece of wood. Yeah, that's what you do in a
1:13:34
horror movie. Use a small piece of plywood.
1:13:38
Yeah, it's like a 2 by 4, yeah, yeah.
1:13:40
So they passed out a window and they started digging through the
1:13:43
snow to drying it out to the top.
1:13:44
Sarah goes through first. I love it.
1:13:46
She stabs the snow a few times and then realizes that's too
1:13:49
slow. And then she's digging through.
1:13:52
Yeah, and she gets through. And then Bridget comes through.
1:13:56
And then Kenya, Jenna is attacked as she's coming through
1:13:59
and she's being pulled and she gets drilled through.
1:14:02
Kenya, I'm sorry, Kenya. Kenya is an anteam contestant.
1:14:08
So Kenya sees this happen. If she gets pulled out and she's
1:14:12
all bloody, so they go running. The brothers obviously chase
1:14:15
them. They have had the spark plug
1:14:18
wire tube things this whole time, 'cause they're able to
1:14:24
work the snow jet skis. So Sarah drops her weapon at
1:14:27
some point. So she's like, I'm gonna go get
1:14:29
it. The brothers come sneak up on
1:14:31
Bridget and Kenya and they grab Bridget and stab Kenya.
1:14:36
And when Sarah comes back, she's like, let me tie a tourniquet to
1:14:38
your arm and then I'm gonna go look for Bridget.
1:14:41
And Bridget is just being sanded to death by the belts under the
1:14:45
snowmobile. It's gnarly.
1:14:48
It is a pretty good kill, yeah, so it's just.
1:14:51
So much blood. So much blood.
1:14:53
So just Sarah and Kenya. I don't know how much time has
1:14:57
passed but like sometime has passed.
1:14:58
It looks like it's probably the next morning.
1:15:00
Yeah, we've apparently made a plan.
1:15:03
Yes. So we see Lauren has frozen to
1:15:05
death, ironically close to the road.
1:15:07
Yeah. And that's why I think she died
1:15:09
the night before because she is like fully frozen over.
1:15:12
OK, Very like Jack Torrance. OK.
1:15:17
Yeah, you're right. Kenya is like running through
1:15:19
the snow. And it seems like she's alone.
1:15:21
And she's like saying, somebody help, please help.
1:15:24
Sarah, where are you? A snowmobile approaches.
1:15:27
And guess what? Sarah was in hiding.
1:15:29
And she hits the driver, knocks him off the snowmobile.
1:15:31
And they take the snowmobile. And we've got this beautiful,
1:15:34
like, slow, victorious music as the sun is rising and these
1:15:38
friends are riding through the snow.
1:15:39
And it's a nice, beautiful moment and you feel very
1:15:42
hopeful. And then Kenny goes no.
1:15:44
And then they are both beheaded. Yeah, it's like, it's so abrupt.
1:15:48
Yeah, it's shocking, honestly. It's it's crazy how it just so
1:15:53
yeah, the snowmobile keeps driving and we see the truck,
1:15:57
truck, truck, truck pulls up. He's the tow truck.
1:16:01
Yeah, three finger grabs their heads.
1:16:04
Yep. Grabs their heads, puts them in
1:16:06
the truck, Truck on a stays. Work.
1:16:08
He's got the bodies. They're about to make some heads
1:16:10
do. And a song called Wrong Turn.
1:16:13
Yeah, the credits. They lean full into the wrong
1:16:17
turn, yeah. That's what you got to do with
1:16:19
this franchise, yeah. You got you got to lean into it.
1:16:22
Fuck it, man. I love this movie.
1:16:24
I'm fucking 9 fucking 9. Nine.
1:16:27
OK, fuck yeah. Let's do nine series. 9.
1:16:30
Series. So, Talia.
1:16:33
Oh boy, Talia. We were getting ready to watch
1:16:35
the movie. Talia was getting very hyped.
1:16:38
She was playing with toys and Travis said Are you ready to
1:16:41
watch? Wrong Turn 4.
1:16:42
Except the problem was that she was mid yon when he said that
1:16:44
and she smashed her mouth shut. No, it was very slow, actually.
1:16:49
It was like she was getting ready to do the yon.
1:16:51
She's like, and then she like right before she got to the peak
1:16:55
of it, it just kind of died and she just slowly.
1:16:57
No, She swallowed it back in because you were like, Are you
1:17:01
ready to watch some fucking wrong Turn 4?
1:17:02
And you know she did watch it. She is.
1:17:05
Because there's a lot of snow. She loves snow.
1:17:07
Not before going out to. Our actual snow.
1:17:10
Yeah, like, many times. It was very, We forgot to
1:17:12
mention, we watched this as it was snowing outside.
1:17:14
Yeah, it was very immersive. Yeah.
1:17:16
I felt like Declan did that for us.
1:17:17
Yeah, Like, yeah. To have this as an immersive
1:17:20
experience. Yeah, that was a way to honor
1:17:22
him on the anniversary of his death.
1:17:24
Yeah, we did toast to him, so. Yeah, man.
1:17:28
So I think Taya gives it a nine. Taya likes.
1:17:30
It, yeah. And Zoe watched.
1:17:33
She was in and out. It was kind of weird.
1:17:35
I'd say she was almost half and half.
1:17:37
So like it was just, yeah, it's a little bit weird for her.
1:17:41
She was in weird, weird place with it, with everything last
1:17:44
night. All right.
1:17:46
So who did you relate to? Hmm.
1:17:50
Who did I relate to? I guess I probably related to
1:18:00
Lauren because I also sleep with my hair braided.
1:18:04
And you freeze to death all the time.
1:18:06
All the time. I'm not the strongest skier, and
1:18:10
I also can't light a fire on my own, but I do braid my hair, so
1:18:14
that's who I'm gonna relate to. She's.
1:18:16
The one that had pigtails, right?
1:18:17
Yeah, those pigtails look nice. It was nice on you, too.
1:18:21
I related to Daniel because I would be stressed out about my
1:18:26
car getting towed just like he was at the beginning of the
1:18:28
movie. All right, Dream sequel.
1:18:33
So we've already set it up. So we're gonna do a mockumentary
1:18:37
of Wrong Turn. It's going to follow the
1:18:40
hillbillies. I don't want it to be about the
1:18:42
cannibalism, I just want the rest of their everyday life.
1:18:45
Just a day-to-day, like they're the cannibalism is happening as
1:18:50
they're there, but it's not the focus.
1:18:51
I want to see them like making repairs to their home and like
1:18:56
studying automobile mechanics and.
1:18:59
Maybe one of us is going to trade school.
1:19:01
I want to see three fingers shaving his face with like, I
1:19:05
don't know, like his own fingernail shaving or some of
1:19:08
those extra sharp. It's like the dudes tooth.
1:19:11
Yeah, that's how he shaved. That's why Sawtooth is the only
1:19:14
one with a beard. Yeah.
1:19:16
My God, it's coming together. Yeah.
1:19:18
Honestly, yeah. This would be like a great
1:19:21
mockumentary slasher right there.
1:19:23
You gotta get some killing in the.
1:19:24
Yeah, but just in a very non consequential kind of way.
1:19:29
Like it's just the thing that happens.
1:19:31
Yeah, we gotta eat. I feel like they make pelts out
1:19:35
of the people and they sell it at a flea market.
1:19:38
Yes, dude. Yeah, I wanna see them at the
1:19:41
farmer's market. It's gonna happen, Yeah.
1:19:44
We gotta make this thing. And they interview some random
1:19:47
person who always comes to the farmer's market and they're
1:19:49
like, yeah, everybody kinda you don't make eye contact at the
1:19:52
booth because if you do, you have to buy something and we
1:19:55
don't know what their jackets are made of.
1:19:57
It is a weird leather. I've tried haggling with those
1:20:01
guys, but they don't even like speak.
1:20:05
They just kind of like giggle and yell at me and like, I just
1:20:08
kind of like give them some money and they're generally
1:20:11
happy with that experience. Yes, yeah.
1:20:14
Yeah, all right. So we need to haggling.
1:20:18
He came up with one last night but I can't remember what it
1:20:20
was. I can't remember what it was
1:20:22
either. Oh, fight and fright and freeze.
1:20:27
Fight and fright and. Freeze no fight and flight and
1:20:29
freeze. Fight and flight and freeze.
1:20:31
Because they did all of those. They did, yeah.
1:20:33
And they. Were confronted with an
1:20:34
emergency. They fought.
1:20:35
They froze. They fled.
1:20:38
I'm. Gonna do a check box.
1:20:40
Yeah, all of those. Flight freeze, yes.
1:20:43
All right, cool. OK, so time for reviews.
1:20:47
OK. So I went with AI, went a
1:20:52
different route this time. I went with the blu-ray.com
1:20:55
review 'cause they actually give the actual movie reviews for all
1:20:59
their Blu rays. OK, OK, so this is what they
1:21:02
say. Wrong.
1:21:03
Turn 4 is so mechanically prescribed, worthless, and
1:21:06
devoid of originality that it makes the Sorority Row remake
1:21:10
look like Roman Polanski repulsion in comparison.
1:21:13
Love the sorority row. Remake I do, too.
1:21:16
Part of the audience for this type of shit, apparently.
1:21:18
At least wrong. Turn Three had a plot.
1:21:20
An extraordinarily stupid one, but a plot nonetheless.
1:21:24
Various bloody beginnings is just another excuse to see horny
1:21:27
young adults mutilated and murdered in increasingly
1:21:29
creative ways. That's why.
1:21:31
You come to these. Movies.
1:21:32
I know. It gets better.
1:21:36
I'm all I'm almost surprised these kinds of films haven't
1:21:39
gone the porn route, dispensing with a story altogether and
1:21:43
getting straight to the good stuff.
1:21:45
Granted, there are some pretty gruesome kills here, if that's
1:21:47
your thing. Drill impalements?
1:21:49
Barbed wire decapitations? A flesh fondue party, but good
1:21:53
gore does not a good movie make. Dude, I wanna watch the 2V
1:21:57
original movie Flesh Fondue Party.
1:22:00
Continue another movie. We gotta make that movie too,
1:22:04
All right? And to cap off the whole, that
1:22:07
was just part of the movie. But to cap off like the Blu-ray
1:22:09
everything extras, they say. How and why are more Wrong Turn
1:22:15
films being made? I have no idea, but hopefully
1:22:17
the franchise ends here. Although Bloody Beginnings
1:22:20
probably isn't the worst entry in the series, that honor goes
1:22:23
to Part 3. It's hardly worth recommending
1:22:25
to any besides the most undiscriminating horror fans,
1:22:29
you can certainly do better for pre Halloween entertainment
1:22:31
unless you're some kind of Wrong turn apologist, and a few of
1:22:35
those do exist in the wild, Avoid this one at all costs.
1:22:40
I feel called out, but I also feel a strange kinship because
1:22:43
he also doesn't like Part 3. I I'm the apologist.
1:22:47
I'm the person I felt called out by that right there, 'cause I'm
1:22:49
the one that's like, you know what?
1:22:50
Wrong turn. All good.
1:22:52
Like they're all entertaining in their own right, except for,
1:22:54
like, the waiter few ones. But he gave the overall rating
1:22:59
for the Blu-ray, the movie and video sound, everything.
1:23:03
Two out of five, but the video and sound was good.
1:23:07
That's. A four out of 10.
1:23:08
Yeah, the the extras kind of wack in there.
1:23:11
And he just hated the movie. So yeah, OK, two out of five.
1:23:15
Not too bad. That makes me feel better that
1:23:17
we just have a digital copy instead of the actual DVD, since
1:23:22
it sounds like they weren't a lot of fit.
1:23:23
No, it's about the same. That's on our DVDs.
1:23:26
I I looked at what he had. I think this guy just kind of
1:23:28
hates the fucking movie, honestly.
1:23:30
It's unfortunate. It is unfortunate because those
1:23:32
are the things I do like you said, like that's the things
1:23:35
that I enjoy, like. I honestly like watching this.
1:23:38
I've always loved this one. Watching it for the show made me
1:23:41
love it even more and it made me have like it.
1:23:45
This is how we discovered Declan O'Brien had passed.
1:23:48
Because I was like, I want to learn more about who this man is
1:23:53
after. Like taking all these notes.
1:23:54
I was like, I feel like he definitely is a horror nerd.
1:23:58
And I also wondered if maybe he was like LGBT in some way.
1:24:05
Yeah, just I he kept all women at the end and he had lesbians
1:24:11
in a way that wasn't more fetishes than the rest of the
1:24:14
sex scenes in this movie. And he was just like, I don't
1:24:16
know, maybe he just is. And so I went to look it up and
1:24:18
that's when we discovered he had passed and.
1:24:21
Yeah, he seemed like a good dude.
1:24:24
Yeah. So it's yeah, I yeah, we're
1:24:27
just. I guess we're just wrong.
1:24:29
Turn apologists. We are that's.
1:24:30
Us some of it, anyway. OK.
1:24:32
Well, let's see if we got any more out there.
1:24:34
I was going somewhere else with that, I can't remember where.
1:24:37
It's all good. All right, let's go to the
1:24:39
listener reviews. OK, so First off, we have Tyler
1:24:42
over on Twitter. Tyler says this movie was so
1:24:45
stupid and fun. Lots of dumb characters in it
1:24:47
who make questionable choices, but I love that.
1:24:50
Love the lesbian representation as well, even though it was over
1:24:54
sexual at times, they were a real couple.
1:24:56
We'll have a winter slash or two.
1:24:57
The ending was evil. So yeah, he's like, straight up.
1:25:01
Everything. All of my points.
1:25:03
We've got winter. We've got a bummer ending.
1:25:06
We've got lesbians. I love all of those.
1:25:09
Things. It was all fantastic.
1:25:10
I like all of those things, too. All right, over on Instagram we
1:25:15
have JW Crump of Pod Weedom. I bet he loves this movie.
1:25:21
JW says there are some surprisingly interesting shots
1:25:25
in this. That's all I said there, that's
1:25:26
all you said. OK, there's more, I replied,
1:25:29
saying I definitely noticed that during our watch, too.
1:25:31
It's. I said it's pretty well put
1:25:33
together, all the things considered.
1:25:36
And then he said, like, it's bad, but it's Hey, we tried bad.
1:25:41
OK. Well, yeah.
1:25:43
I see. I can see JW enjoying this one
1:25:45
just from like our experiences with.
1:25:47
Him. Yeah.
1:25:47
And like things I've heard him say on their show and
1:25:50
everything. It sounds like he generally
1:25:52
likes the same vein of movies. Yeah, so.
1:25:55
And final review is Cube saves. Who says we need more?
1:25:59
We need more good snowy horror movies?
1:26:01
This one gets a pass. I do think that this one's a
1:26:04
good one, cuz it's like it doesn't feel contrived to be
1:26:10
like we want to set this in snow, so how do we set it in
1:26:13
snow? Even though it is kind of what
1:26:15
they're going for with it? It just feels very like this is
1:26:18
an element that we're dealing with on top of all the rest of
1:26:20
the shit, which is a it's a big thing with the wrong turn
1:26:24
movies. It's that you've got some other
1:26:26
element of survival happening and also cannibals.
1:26:32
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
1:26:33
Like it's it's the reason why they're stuck there mostly.
1:26:36
But you know, Yeah, like it plays a big part.
1:26:38
Yeah, it's part of the atmosphere.
1:26:39
It's nice movie, has a great atmosphere all around.
1:26:42
Yes. OK, so that's it for the
1:26:45
reviews, which means that is it for this week's episode.
1:26:47
OK, so next week we are Saw 3D. Part of the original end of the
1:26:53
series. And for a budget tier patrons
1:26:56
scream Queens 2 Review. That's right.
1:26:58
Yeah. Not sure exactly when that'll be
1:26:59
out. Some point next week, yeah.
1:27:01
We'll get it. Yeah, and oh, to watch Saw 3D
1:27:06
once again, I'm implore you just buy the whole fucking 52 pack at
1:27:11
Walmart for $6 and a penny. Just they're selling them now
1:27:14
with Saw X in them now too, so you can get all of them out
1:27:18
there. But if you don't want to do that
1:27:20
for whatever reason, we have a really cool case once again from
1:27:24
the closure of blockbusters. But it is a really cool case.
1:27:30
You can currently watch it by renting it.
1:27:34
So you're gonna pay for this movie one way or the other?
1:27:36
Yeah, No. No, it's for free on some
1:27:38
places. I just have YouTube, Google
1:27:40
Play, Voodoo and Prime all rentals.
1:27:42
It's on the Roku channel. Oh, OK.
1:27:44
So if you have a Roku, you can watch it on the Roku channel.
1:27:46
I don't know if Roku channel is available on non Roku devices.
1:27:50
I would assume not. DIRECTV is also one and stars on
1:27:53
Apple TV. OK, so things that you have to
1:27:57
pay extra money for. Yeah, unless you have a Roku,
1:28:00
you know, then that's or DIRECTV, which I don't know many
1:28:04
people that actually have DIRECTV anymore.
1:28:06
All right, So watch it there, catch up with us.
1:28:09
We will be having a good time talking about that.
1:28:12
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1:28:15
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1:28:19
Got another thing in common? We we either love the shit that
1:28:23
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1:28:25
Crazy. Crazy.
1:28:28
Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
1:28:30
I can't wait for it. Yeah.
1:28:32
So. All right, we got that.
1:28:34
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1:28:35
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