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Draft Prospects, Team Strategies, and Vikings' Financial Moves · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  And always, coach Cody in the house coming off that big dub.
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  Yes, sir.
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  Yes, sir.
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  There's I
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  can't I can't wait to dissect that game either.
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  That was I mean, it was a preseason game, but, man, you guys took took names and, you know,
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  did your business.
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  Yep.
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  Yep.
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  We definitely handed that belt, but, you know, I it it's nice.
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  It was, actually surprising how well we did, just because as soon as we got done with,
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  tryouts and training camps, we didn't practice once.
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  And then we were, we didn't make it in time for the walk through.
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  So that offensive line, I mean, I brought the quarterback, a wide receiver, two wide
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  receivers.
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  And so for everybody just to gel like they did and, you know, the results speak for themselves
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  where everybody was ready.
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  So we got a big test, though, coming up.
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  Yeah.
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  Incredible stuff, man, to to watch what this team, and a lot of your guys have been a team
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  before.
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  Right?
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  So while the team is a new it's a new look.
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  It's a new name.
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  A lot of these guys have been together, and I and I think that kinda speaks to why you're
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  able to walk in maybe, you know, a little unprepared.
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  But once you step onto the field, a lot of these guys are just able to gel and play ball.
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  Oh, 100%.
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  You know, I've known these most of these guys for going on three years.
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  Excuse me.
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  Most of these guys, yeah, for three years, but, you know, they've been playing with each other
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  longer.
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  You know?
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  So the communication's all there.
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  You know?
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  They're familiar playing with each other, so the chemistry is there.
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  And then, you know, we just go along our way and pick up a couple new pieces here and there.
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  Everybody's like a family, honestly, and we want the best for everybody else.
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  You know, no weak spots, even our, depth players.
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  So we make sure that everybody's caught up to speed.
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  There's no selfishness also, like, on this defense, on this team, really.
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  So that that just makes it welcoming, for the newcomers.
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  You know, I had plenty of, newer players to the squad, I guess you'd say, come up to me,
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  they're like, damn.
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  It's like, I've never felt like this, like a part of a team like this before.
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  Like, it makes I they're like, feel like I've known this this group for three, four, or five
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  years already.
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  So
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  No.
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  That's that's always good to have that chemistry, especially in that short amount of
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  time that you guys don't even get to practice.
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  I mean, you're here with your defense, the office is there to have that chemistry, but
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  what's it like I mean, arena football is a little different.
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  We should probably break a lot more later because I know we got a lot of Viking stuff to
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  talk about.
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  But as a coach, what's it like to be on the field during the gameplay?
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  Not on the sideline.
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  I mean, you know, you're I I saw you on the defensive side, you know, rooting you guys out.
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  What's that like, though?
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  I mean, that vantage point, does that help you, coach?
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  Yes.
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  Absolutely.
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  And then just being that close to the game, like, you can be on the sideline and see one
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  thing, but you get closer to the action, you're gonna see more.
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  So it was it was hype for sure.
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  That was my first time stepping on the field.
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  Last year, I had an OC and a DC.
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  And, you know, with our headsets, we communicate that way, but, you know, it it was
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  definitely a blast.
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  And then, you know, you got the, you know, the home crowd chirping with you, you know, just
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  cheering you on.
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  It it was exciting, you know, just a different atmosphere having a home crowd with us, you
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  know, having the music blasting in between plays and PA announcer.
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  It was fun.
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  It was it was pretty packed there too.
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  So That
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  one.
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  Even on Valentine's Day.
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  So shout out to the community out in Gillette.
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  You guys showed a lot of love.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, not a lot happening in Gillette.
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  So I I that's no shot at them.
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  Right?
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  But that they don't have a lot.
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  So it's nice to see the community show up and support what they do have.
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  Right?
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  I I think that's so important for a small community because if you don't have that, then
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  you lose it.
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  Right?
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  Like, if you don't support these teams and then everybody likes to, you know, oh, well, the you
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  know, we don't have anything fun to do.
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  Well, it's like, well, if you don't go out and support the things that you do have while you
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  have them, then they fade away.
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  It takes a lot of money to put these things on.
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  And without people coming and spending money for tickets or concessions and all of those
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  things add up, like, it's not cheap to even rent these buildings to go in.
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  Most of these teams don't own the buildings that they're working in.
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  They're paying rent on those.
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  So you're helping to literally pay the rent on the building.
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  So I and I think I think for us, like, starting to talk about it more and giving people maybe
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  some inside baseball to what these smaller leagues go through, This isn't the NFL.
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  Right?
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  Like, it it's the most of these people are doing it for love of the game.
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  And because they just wanna play ball, these players aren't making a lot of money barely you
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  know, probably not even enough to cover what they would have made staying at work that day
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  or to you know?
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  And we're not talking about practices that they're leaving their families and their jobs
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  for.
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  You know?
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  Like, the trade off isn't there financially.
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  It's all just passion for the game of football.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, it it our goals as coaches is to elevate these players, you know, and to develop
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  them on and off the field and to get them as high as they can go and achieve the most that
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  they can.
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  But, you know, for some and for us right now, this is our NFL.
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  You know?
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  So act like a professional, prepare like a professional, perform like a professional,
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  because you never know who's watching.
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  You never know who's gonna tune in to these games, see your film, and give you a call.
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  I've had a bunch of, coaches from higher leagues reach out to me asking about players.
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  You know, I'm having players text me, let me know, hey.
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  I, you know, I got a UFL coach or an AF one coach looking at me, and that's just that's
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  what it's all about.
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  I that that makes me happy.
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  Get out of here, Steve.
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  He ain't wearing green and yellow, man.
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  It ain't happening.
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  Steve's still on here.
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  What up, Steve?
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  Thanks for joining, brother.
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  We appreciate you tuning in, man.
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  We're just taking a few moments off the top here to celebrate with coach and the Wyoming
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  cavalry's big win.
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  Really proud of you guys, man.
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  Proud of the team showing up and doing their thing.
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  One preseason game, we're not gonna bank it all on there, but 56 to nothing is no small feat.
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  So, oh, damn.
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  Check these new freaking graphics out, boys.
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  Boom.
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  That is nice.
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  That is nice.
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  Oh, I
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  got a whole slew of them too.
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  Don't you worry.
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  I'm gonna be at a fin all night.
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  Well, you know, that you know, the graphic of that and maybe SPSN might look good on the
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  borders there in Wyoming.
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  I mean,
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  you know,
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  just saying.
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  Go go take all that packers talk over to some green and gold podcast.
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  This is the purple and gold.
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  We love you, Steve.
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  Thanks for tuning in, man.
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  Well, Steve, you know,
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  you you there's a job opening with the packers.
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  I mean
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  There you
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  go.
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  That should be you.
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  Yeah.
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  Exactly.
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  Stop killing our guy.
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  You can't
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  get it.
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  Teams.
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  Love that.
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  Hey.
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  Those that banner would look nice over in Wyoming, though.
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  I know.
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  I heard that.
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  I heard that.
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  We're saying, man.
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  No.
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  What's funny is that I got a few other ones that were more, like, almost the cavalry
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  colors.
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  So I'm gonna add I'm gonna I'm gonna throw some more.
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  I'm excited.
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  No.
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  Just Why?
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  He's way out here.
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  He's still at
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  05:00, so we haven't even had time to really do anything with him.
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  I was lucky I got the video together, to be perfectly honest.
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  It's all about.
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  So, Cody, what happened towards the end of the third quarter there with the I mean, fight,
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  people got thrown out.
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  The other team, like, literally walked off the field.
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  The announcers didn't know what was going on.
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  I mean, what were they telling you?
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  I mean, because the announcers, like, I think this game's over with.
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  I mean, so
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  They told Cody to stop throwing haymakers and get the hell off the field.
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  No.
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  Honestly,
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  they're throwing haymakers.
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  Alright.
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  You know?
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  You know?
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  So, yeah, there was a fight that broke out.
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  And first of all, I want to give a huge shout out to my players.
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  You know, a lot of other teams would have emptied benches, and it would have been ten
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  minutes in order to deescalate the situation.
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  You know, most of them have been with me before, and they know like, I told them before
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  the game.
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  I was like, hey.
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  You know, we expect every game to go out there and put a belt to someone's rear.
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  Yep.
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  And so I'm like, when we do get up by a certain amount, you know, tempers are gonna get up
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  there.
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  Yep.
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  Don't even say that too.
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  The tempers are gonna fly here shortly.
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  Yeah.
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  I was like I was like, don't do anything.
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  Let them talk.
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  Laugh it off.
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  I told them that at the beginning of the game.
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  I told that to him at halftime too.
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  And the ones that have been with me before know what's up.
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  You know, I told I told him and I emphasized we're professionals.
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  We're in a professional league now.
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  You guys can get fined.
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  You guys can get suspended.
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  Let's not do any stupid shit, especially in the exhibition game.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  So shout out to them for sticking back because I know some of them are really like that.
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  So but yeah.
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  No.
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  It was just tempers flaring.
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  Fight broke out.
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  And then while they were figuring out the injections, yeah, CNY Blue Devils team started
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  picking up their bags and walking out of their arena.
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  And, you know, they earlier in the game, one of their players on kickoff or kick return, we
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  were on kickoff.
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  One of their returners got flipped over the boards.
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  Saw that.
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  And just, you know, they were they were pretty hurt, like, injury wise.
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  Yeah.
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  And so, you know, after the fight broke out, they were just kind of fed up.
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  But huge shout out to AJ, the owner of of for the c n NY Blue Devils and the quarterback.
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  You know, showed a lot of class coming back out and finishing the game.
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  We even got to talk afterwards, and, you know, it's a lot of respect on both sides.
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  No.
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  I
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  I get the respect and stuff like that.
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  You wanna play all four quarters and stuff like that.
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  Preseason game, would I mean, would you guys I mean, yeah, you guys would have probably been
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  hurt yourself that you couldn't finish the game, but, I mean, if they're having injury
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  problems, I mean, I mean, what do you guys say just, you know, okay, let's wrap it up.
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  It's preseason game.
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  This doesn't mean nothing.
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  Go back, get better.
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  See you guys in a couple weeks if we schedule you guys again.
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  I mean I mean, will there have been no harm to foul if they would have said, hey, we gotta
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  call this game.
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  I mean, you know.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I think I I I I think there wouldn't have been any, like, bad blood if they would have called
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  the game.
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  I was trying to get as close to the reps as I could.
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  I thought you were.
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  Thought you were.
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  And trying to sneak in there.
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  Yeah.
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  And and, boy, one time, I could have sworn I heard one of the reps say, well, can they go
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  with seven?
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  And I'm like, So but, you know, we were able to finish the game and finish it on a high note.
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  So I mean, they had what, half a dozen drives and two of them were inside your five to start?
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  I mean, you know, you guys just put a lick and kept on ticking.
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  And after that first turnover you guys had in inside your five, I'm like, okay, shutoff's
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  gone here.
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  They're gonna punch it in.
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  And your guys stepped up, your defensive line stepped up, your, you know, I mean, linebackers
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  or however they're called.
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  You guys stopped them.
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  I think they even had a fumble on the next player a couple of days later.
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  So perhaps you guys all do you I I know football, you got plays, you got to be where
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  you're at here and there.
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  But do you give, like, maybe your defense line be like, hey, if you think you can get by this
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  guy every time, just go go for the blitz every time.
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  I mean or I mean, what is your philosophy?
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  You know?
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  It all depends on the rhythm of the game, honestly.
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  If we've been eating all day, green light, you know, pin the ears back, get gone.
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  You know?
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  And our defensive line did work.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It
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  did.
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  Everybody on the defense did work.
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  Everybody on the team, but everybody on the defensive work, you know, that we had a couple
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  of injuries ourselves, for a little bit, and, you know, people were able to plug in and play.
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  The a lot of my players are versatile, so they can go from corner to linebacker to jack to
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  safety, you know, just like that.
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  So
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  No.
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  I tell you, on the on the offensive side of things, that running back speedy, oh my god.
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  I'd hate to see him in a 100 yard dash with somebody because that guy, just on a short
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  field looks quick.
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  I can't imagine what he looks like on a on a full size football field.
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  Well, he's
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  tough too.
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  He's tough too.
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  He's the one who flipped the dude over the boards, and that was a huge hit.
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  And then and then I I once he's a receiver, tall dude, that guy looked I mean, on on the
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  screen, he looked like he was, like, seven five.
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  I don't know what yeah.
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  So we got two of them, number 13, Cam.
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  We call him six seven just because he's six seven.
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  And then we got Matthew Lauer, number six, and he's six four.
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  So Oh, okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Got we got mixture of height, and then you throw a little bow in there, and he's just all
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  speed too.
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  Oh, god.
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  Yeah.
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  You guys you guys scored
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  at will.
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  I mean, yeah, you
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  guys had a short field to score do do your work on, but, man, you guys scored at every way
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  possible.
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  So good.
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  Where did CNY teams stack up against the rest of the league?
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  And how many teams are in your league, Cody?
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  So in the North Division, I believe we have six to eight.
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  I think the there are two new ones that jumped in.
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  And then I think the same amount in the South Division.
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  Okay.
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  We
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  have a big team, man.
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  How many games do you guys play?
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  Right now, we have six left, but I'm pretty sure we're adding a seventh one.
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  I got off the phone with the owner of the AIF earlier today.
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  Cool.
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  Well, good.
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  So any
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  interdivision games, or you just play your division and then go against the other one come
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  playoff time?
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  It'll be a little mix of both towards the end of the year.
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  But one more thing is, like, you know, 56 to zero, our our starting quarterback didn't start
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  until, like, second drive, third drive.
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  And then, you know, taking into account, you know, we haven't practiced with each other or
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  anything.
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  When we really get rolling, it's gonna look nasty.
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  Yeah.
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  It it looked it it looked bad.
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  I mean, yeah, it it was I mean, I'm watching it.
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  I was like, you know, you guys every time I turn around, you guys had the ball, you score.
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  You kick off.
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  Four plays later, you got I mean, you guys stopped them every time.
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  So why the announcers kept saying, you know, teams don't wanna go for field goals there to
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  get the next point.
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  They'll go for two.
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  Why is that?
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  Why what what makes that stuff that you don't wanna kick a field goal?
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  I mean, I don't I don't really have anything against it.
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  We just didn't have a kicker at that at that game.
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  He wasn't able to make it.
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  But, I mean, I'm I'm down for kicking it.
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  I've even last year, a couple times, I think we were two for four on four point plays instead
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  of the two point.
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  So, I mean, it it all depends on how it's going.
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  If if, you know, if I'm up, you know, seventeen zero or something like that, up 17 and had just
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  scored, like, I'm probably gonna try to go for that four point play just to put it out.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  They just, the announcers just made it sound like there was something with how the layout
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  was that it's hard to kick or, you know, stuff like that.
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  So they're
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  They were they were struggling with the names too.
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  Like, they kept Anthony Sanders, he had a pass deflection and then an interception, and I
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  think they kept on calling him, like Junior.
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  Joseph something junior.
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  I'm like, who is that?
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  That's not even a junior.
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  That was good that he got he got the redemption, though, after he that he dropped
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  one that was in his hands, and then got to pick a couple of plays later.
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  So, no, props to your team, and, you know, good luck for the whole season.
• 21:53
  I can't wait to break down all those games with you and Bubba here.
• 21:58
  And, you know, hopefully, we're talking a lot more w's on this side of the camera than we are
• 22:05
  in other sports.
• 22:06
  So Yeah.
• 22:06
  And you know what, boys?
• 22:08
  Speaking of talking more ball, I just got off the phone before we jumped on with the head of
• 22:15
  the developmental football association of, one of Cody's other jobs.
• 22:20
  And, we are in talks right now about being the exclusive home of broadcast for that league.
• 22:26
  So, b, we might be busy come this summer covering some more outdoor football and
• 22:32
  Hey.
• 22:33
  If I got the time, man, I will be there.
• 22:35
  I know my son was kinda looking forward to going to some bears games last year, but, yeah,
• 22:40
  if we if we got time, I mean, I could check it off and who knows, maybe my schedule will
• 22:45
  change by then to where I'm fully open.
• 22:47
  But, yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm hyped.
• 22:49
  I'm, you know, you know, to be able to do this stuff as a hobby and, you know, maybe make it a
• 22:55
  semi career, but, you know, just be able to talk ball, football, baseball, basketball,
• 22:59
  hockey, throwing that curling, you know, I'm all ball ball ball talking thing.
• 23:04
  Wrestling, you know, I definitely wanna, you know, you know, just get out there and just
• 23:08
  have some fun.
• 23:10
  Yeah.
• 23:10
  Well, it was really awesome, and shout out to to Aaron Anderson and everything that they're
• 23:16
  doing Yes.
• 23:17
  Up there with the DFA, I know, obviously.
• 23:20
  Now what was his affiliation?
• 23:21
  Was he one of the coaches of the Minnesota Warriors as well?
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:26
  He was part of the part of the organization.
• 23:28
  I'm pretty sure, like, in a GM spot Okay.
• 23:32
  Ownership spot.
• 23:33
  So, yeah.
• 23:35
  No.
• 23:35
  I've I've known known of him for a little while.
• 23:39
  You know, just cut gotten to a partnership and a collaboration with him, and turned out he,
• 23:48
  has been he knew me of me and my family before anything because he used to work with my mom.
• 23:54
  So it's a small world out there.
• 23:56
  Yeah.
• 23:57
  Well and I know that all their games are gonna be in one place at at in Shakopee, which makes
• 24:02
  it easy for us as a broadcast team to know exactly where we're gonna be.
• 24:06
  They're gonna run two games every time that they're there.
• 24:09
  So, yeah, we're we're in early talks right now, but looking forward to being a lot more
• 24:14
  involved with with that organization.
• 24:16
  He told me they filled somebody for the Twin City the Twin Cities Tundra team.
• 24:21
  I thought Cody got another job.
• 24:23
  Turns out I don't read that through, but,
• 24:25
  you know,
• 24:28
  it it and it was really you know, being general manager of a football team isn't something that
• 24:32
  I've, like, seen, but I know the business that goes into it.
• 24:35
  Right?
• 24:36
  The seeking of the sponsorships, the you know, building that business, not necessarily the
• 24:41
  team building.
• 24:42
  I I think that somebody can learn that side of it.
• 24:44
  To to know football but not know the other side, I think, is much harder.
• 24:49
  Right?
• 24:49
  I I I think that you can find people who know ball that can help you to build out a team of
• 24:55
  players.
• 24:56
  It's a lot harder to have to learn how to and, Cody, you can speak to this, to to find the
• 25:01
  your your stadium rights and agreements to play and practice in and to find sponsorships for
• 25:07
  the teams to come in and have those business conversations and to do both like you were with
• 25:13
  with the bears on the GM and head coach side, that's a massive undertaking.
• 25:18
  It's a massive undertaking.
• 25:19
  And to try and wear all of those hats at the same And speaking for someone who does it all
• 25:25
  with the scene projects that, you know, in the North Sports Network and all of those things
• 25:28
  where I'm not only the the on air talent, but the behind the scenes business face of
• 25:34
  everything too.
• 25:35
  Like, it's
• 25:36
  a lot of
• 25:36
  freaking work, man.
• 25:37
  And this is I mean, this is nothing.
• 25:40
  Right?
• 25:40
  Like, I'm I'm not managing a team or a league full of players as well.
• 25:45
  So, yeah, it was a great excuse to get on the phone with them today, talk about what we can
• 25:49
  provide as a network, especially with b becoming more a part of this.
• 25:55
  I don't know if we wanna go ahead and announce that tonight.
• 25:57
  B, I'll leave it up to you.
• 25:58
  We can announce it.
• 26:01
  I am still gonna keep a little bit over there with c two c, but trying to keep our
• 26:08
  partnership going.
• 26:09
  But I am officially at the February, gonna be 100% over here with Bubba and Cody and working
• 26:17
  on some new shows.
• 26:18
  Hopefully, a baseball show, wrestling show, you know, just trying to get out there, you know,
• 26:23
  and just grow myself and, you know, Bubba's company here, the senior project, and just have
• 26:32
  some fun, you know.
• 26:33
  I mean, you know, we're we're learning right now, I'm learning even more every day that
• 26:38
  life's too short.
• 26:39
  Just go out and have fun, do what you wanna do.
• 26:42
  I wish I like I said, back in the day, I wish I had this entertainment stuff back in, you know,
• 26:47
  getting out of school because I would have done a lot more with it.
• 26:51
  But, yes, I will be joining 100% with Bubba here on the SPSN network.
• 26:57
  So
• 26:58
  Man, well, we're we're thrilled to have you.
• 27:00
  First thing he did, coach, he sent me his new, his new photo.
• 27:04
  Got jumped on the AI caricature, and it's all SPSN to the max.
• 27:10
  That's like, man, that's a good look
• 27:11
  for all of us.
• 27:13
  And, b, I'm so proud to have you as part of our organization.
• 27:16
  Everything that we're building here, covering more Midwest sports, and we've been talking
• 27:21
  about going harder for a while, you know, with my production teams that wanna get out and
• 27:26
  shoot some more sports things.
• 27:27
  You know?
• 27:27
  I got guys that work for the Memphis grizzlies that are tired of of the travel schedule with
• 27:33
  their NBA and doing that that side of it that they wanna do their own thing and helping to
• 27:38
  figure out all of these things from the rights and the, you know, what it takes as a camera
• 27:45
  operating crew.
• 27:46
  And we would love to be, you know, part of that as broadcasters, but as, you know, a business
• 27:53
  behind it to bring this, you know, bring these leagues to the people and to bring them to them
• 27:58
  in their homes.
• 27:59
  We already have distribution, contacts with OTT platforms on Roku, Apple TV, and Amazon Fire.
• 28:06
  So to bring these things not just onto YouTube and things like we can do, but to take them one
• 28:10
  step further and to have them actually on people's TVs inside of their homes, you know,
• 28:15
  on their smart TVs, and I think that's gonna be a really powerful thing.
• 28:19
  And maybe our first test here, you know, possibly with the the Wyoming cavalry as the
• 28:24
  season goes on, we gotta have some more conversations with, you know, the the the is it
• 28:29
  the AIF?
• 28:30
  Is that what it is?
• 28:31
  Yes.
• 28:32
  Yep.
• 28:32
  AIF.
• 28:33
  That would be just got the own the owner of the league.
• 28:36
  I got his number.
• 28:37
  I just got it today.
• 28:38
  We had a nice forty five minute phone call, so I think we can make some you know, we can just
• 28:45
  let me cook.
• 28:45
  Let me cook.
• 28:46
  I'll get
• 28:47
  some We're gonna let that simmer.
• 28:48
  And the same thing with that is, like, we have a long term vision of this.
• 28:52
  If we've been able to build up, you know, for us, the scene project sports center, our
• 28:56
  flagship is this Vikings United show.
• 28:58
  Right?
• 28:58
  If So we've been able to build up and and I got to a 100 subscribers faster with SBSN than it
• 29:04
  ever took me with my other network.
• 29:06
  Right?
• 29:06
  In the matter of a few months, we got to that 100.
• 29:08
  We're clipping along along at a pretty good rate right now.
• 29:11
  If we can start to bring in more teams and leagues and coverage that we're doing, the the
• 29:16
  trajectory is straight up.
• 29:18
  And, we're bringing that paddle, to whoop up on the other, you know, networks.
• 29:22
  There's just not a not a lot of networks that are doing what we're doing and committing to
• 29:26
  these smaller leagues to do that.
• 29:28
  Everybody wants to cover the big teams, and that's fine.
• 29:30
  We do too.
• 29:32
  But it's always to me been about covering I mean, I cover my high school football team here
• 29:36
  in South Dakota.
• 29:37
  We cover a lot of other things and and the cavalry being a part of that, DFA being a part
• 29:42
  of that, and just continuing to grow in in this field.
• 29:45
  So I'm I'm really thankful to have these experiences that we're we're having now and
• 29:51
  where it all goes from here and growing with it.
• 29:53
  So would love to be I think we're gonna sneak into some draft coverage, man, unless you got
• 30:00
  anything else before we get into some NFL coverage.
• 30:04
  No.
• 30:04
  Let's let's get into it.
• 30:05
  Kinda been watching the the wire last couple days.
• 30:09
  Miami looked like they released everybody except for the water boy out the other day.
• 30:15
  It would be nice to maybe see mister Hill in a purple and gold, but right now with the salary
• 30:21
  cap, I don't think we're gonna see it.
• 30:23
  I think Minnesota's gonna probably, you know, start firing off some releases here probably
• 30:28
  within the next couple weeks to get under the cap.
• 30:31
  Next forty eight hours.
• 30:33
  Let's go.
• 30:34
  Yeah.
• 30:35
  I I I definitely think we're gonna be seeing some cap casualties on our side of the ball
• 30:42
  soon.
• 30:43
  They they gotta figure out something.
• 30:44
  I know, you know, Kirk Cousins is being brought up because he's gonna be cap casualties
• 30:49
  Atlanta.
• 30:50
  So maybe he comes here for a a cheap dollar, but a lot of people are saying he's gonna wanna
• 30:55
  start.
• 30:56
  You know?
• 30:56
  I I I don't know about that, but, you know, but, yeah, let's get into definitely
• 31:02
  looking at it like if Flacco can start games, damn it, so can I?
• 31:07
  Yeah.
• 31:07
  Yeah.
• 31:07
  I mean, you're right.
• 31:09
  I mean, it's just the next man up, but Yeah.
• 31:12
  I I think right now Vikings focus should be 100% o line.
• 31:17
  I know we're gonna talk deepfest today, but, you know, I I think the o line should be
• 31:21
  definitely one of their outlooks here.
• 31:24
  Definitely a solid backup quarterback.
• 31:27
  Somebody to replace mister Harrison on the hitman on the defensive side.
• 31:36
  Definitely gotta find a good leadership on that side.
• 31:38
  I mean, Cody could definitely you know, he probably just got called for another job
• 31:43
  interview somewhere, that's why he's off.
• 31:46
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  especially with the draft coming out.
• 33:36
  So what I did be is I had I had ChatGPT pull me the top five prospects in cornerbacks and
• 33:45
  safeties.
• 33:46
  So so got some names to run through, a little bit of breakdown, and then I would love to
• 33:52
  coach went to get his notes.
• 33:53
  That's where he went.
• 33:54
  He's back now.
• 33:55
  I'm assuming he probably did a little bit of the same stuff, although he's been doing it.
• 33:59
  So, coach, just
• 34:00
  He's definitely asleep.
• 34:02
  What?
• 34:03
  So I I ran a little bit of ransom chat GPT interference on the top five cornerbacks and
• 34:12
  the top five safeties.
• 34:13
  I'm gonna rattle off some names, give a little bit of, you know, breakdown on the player, and
• 34:19
  then I want you to kinda chime in and tell me what you think about each specific player.
• 34:23
  Is that alright?
• 34:24
  Yeah.
• 34:24
  Because that's I bet we got the same players.
• 34:28
  I would assume I would assume so.
• 34:30
  So starting off with the cornerbacks, first one on the list here, Mansoor Delaine.
• 34:37
  Mansoor Delaine at LSU, one of the most scheme versatile corners in this class, about six foot
• 34:42
  a hundred and ninety pounds.
• 34:44
  He's a physical press man guy who can walk up on the line and win with his hands, but he's
• 34:49
  just as comfortable playing off and driving on routes.
• 34:52
  This past season, he put up around 45 tackles, had two picks and 11 pass breakups, and you
• 34:58
  really see the instincts on tape.
• 35:00
  He finds the ball early, rarely panics with his back turn, and he competes at the catch point.
• 35:06
  He looks like a plug and play outside corner with CB one upside.
• 35:11
  Mansour de Laine, cornerback LSU, whether he's going to be available with that kind of a, you
• 35:18
  know, draft profile at 18 for, you know, for our Minnesota Vikings.
• 35:24
  It it is probably rare, especially with a guy that has hands.
• 35:28
  I mean, 11 pass breakups and two picks playing cornerback.
• 35:32
  That that's a lot of ball action.
• 35:34
  Mhmm.
• 35:35
  I I
• 35:35
  always obviously playing in the SEC as well.
• 35:38
  But should this guy drop, is this somebody that the Vikings are targeting with that first round
• 35:44
  pick?
• 35:45
  You know, I would say for corner, yes.
• 35:50
  He would probably be, you know, I know a lot of people want that Terrell from Clemson, but,
• 35:58
  just based off of Brian Flores and his system, I mean, like, he he loves corners who can
• 36:05
  survive on islands, man coverage, you know, defensive backs who can blitz, tackle, and play
• 36:10
  downhill, safeties who can rotate late and wear multiple hats, obviously, with Mattelis.
• 36:17
  Physicality and mental processing over pure speed.
• 36:20
  I mean, this this guy, like you said, he he's he's got strong ball skills.
• 36:27
  He's battle tested in man coverage, fluid hips for mirror assignments, which is critical and
• 36:33
  cover zero.
• 36:34
  You know, if my my projection, if I if I was thinking like Flores, he'd be, you know, a
• 36:41
  boundary, you know, outside risk cornerback capable of just surviving and, you know, just
• 36:48
  being physical.
• 36:48
  Six six foot, I mean, it is what it is.
• 36:53
  Hopefully, we can find that corner or that DB.
• 36:58
  I think, you know, the last d b's that we really went after in the first round, you know,
• 37:06
  Jeff Gladney, was he one of them?
• 37:09
  And and probably the last one and then Trey Wayne's before that?
• 37:13
  Scenes or whatever.
• 37:15
  The kid that got hurt.
• 37:16
  Oh, yeah.
• 37:16
  Yep.
• 37:17
  Yep.
• 37:17
  So,
• 37:18
  yeah, looking at ESPN's ranking here, they got the lane number one at the position, sixteenth
• 37:25
  overall.
• 37:26
  So, I mean, there's a chance he could be sitting there looking at the top three at all
• 37:31
  at you guys.
• 37:32
  But, I mean, we could possibly get a solid corner at eighteen.
• 37:37
  I mean, if if they'll call cars fall the way they should be.
• 37:43
  Yeah.
• 37:44
  Yeah.
• 37:44
  No.
• 37:44
  I mean, other than that, we'll we'll have to see.
• 37:49
  I mean, I I wouldn't be upset about it.
• 37:51
  You know?
• 37:51
  He is he is 22, so, you know, he is up there.
• 37:56
  But, you know, Flores isn't gonna start a young cornerback, like a young young one, so he might
• 38:03
  be a good fit.
• 38:05
  Yeah.
• 38:05
  And exactly what you just touched on there is that, I think it's an age thing.
• 38:11
  It's a maturity thing.
• 38:12
  It's a, you know, how much ball have you played?
• 38:15
  Can I trust you with that experience level that probably keeps Flores from doing putting a lot
• 38:21
  of young guys out on the field as well as size?
• 38:24
  I mean, the days I have in cornerbacks that are five, ten are long gone.
• 38:28
  Right?
• 38:29
  A lot of coaches, when you expect these guys to play on an island, you know, good luck guarding
• 38:34
  some of these guys.
• 38:35
  Your AJ Browns, your Justin Jeffersons of the world, being five ten, with, you know, forty
• 38:42
  eight inch arm, right, or whatever.
• 38:43
  I don't even know what a arm like that that's justifiable, but, you know, you're you're just
• 38:49
  not gonna be able to play that.
• 38:50
  The the league has changed.
• 38:52
  Right?
• 38:52
  It's just it's bigger, faster, stronger as always.
• 38:55
  So where it used to be a rarity to see cornerbacks that were six foot tall, now you're
• 39:01
  seeing guys that are six one, six two that are out there playing that can body up with anybody
• 39:06
  and and really take some of these big receivers out of the game.
• 39:12
  No.
• 39:12
  Absolutely.
• 39:13
  And you probably think Minnesota for that for drafting Randy Moss back in the day and
• 39:18
  everybody trying to cover him.
• 39:20
  I mean, it it might have started with us drafting these tall, lengthy receivers that are
• 39:24
  good and pretty much put the five, ten corners, d b's obsolete now because now you need someone
• 39:31
  that can be six two, you know, six foot to six two range.
• 39:39
  Awesome.
• 39:41
  Ready to move on to our next corner?
• 39:43
  Let's do it.
• 39:44
  Awesome.
• 39:45
  I'll hide this.
• 39:46
  So next one on my list is Jermad McCoy from Tennessee.
• 39:52
  He's your classic ball hawking SEC corner, about six foot hundred ninety three pounds with
• 39:58
  legit play strength.
• 39:59
  He put together a big 2024 season with 44 tackles, four interceptions, and double digit
• 40:05
  pass breakups, then lost most of the 25 to an ACL.
• 40:09
  Even with that evaluator, still see him as one of the top corners in this class.
• 40:13
  On film, he's patient at the line, trust his eyes, and when he triggers, he closes fast.
• 40:18
  At the medicals checkout, McCoy has that has the look of a starting outside corner who's
• 40:24
  going to take the ball away on Sundays.
• 40:26
  Now this is probably going to be maybe a day two, day three, you know, kind kinda targeting
• 40:33
  you would think with the medicals.
• 40:35
  These guys don't usually go on, you know, in those early.
• 40:38
  Could be a late, you know, second round pick in there possibly.
• 40:42
  Right?
• 40:43
  But with an ACL in last year, you're really, really banking on that 2024 tape and how good
• 40:50
  he looks.
• 40:51
  Bee, any any news on McCoy whether he's gonna be ready for the for the draft combine?
• 41:01
  I'm looking on his little bio here.
• 41:04
  They're not saying McCoy's length of frame to compete for fifty fifty balls.
• 41:09
  I mean, that's about it.
• 41:12
  Yeah.
• 41:12
  I I would probably push combine.
• 41:15
  Might be I mean, that might be something that comes out in the next few weeks or so, but
• 41:19
  yeah.
• 41:19
  This You gotta be to try and get there as a player for sure.
• 41:25
  Because he if he lost most of the season, probably got hurt early season, maybe
• 41:28
  September, October.
• 41:30
  But he's still you know, can't these days aren't really you know, they were season enders
• 41:35
  and, like, into the next season.
• 41:37
  They used to be now now a little bit different for a college kid than an NFL player, but, I
• 41:43
  mean, guys are making it back in, tearing an ACL early in the season and making it back
• 41:49
  before the playoffs now in the NFL.
• 41:51
  Yeah.
• 41:52
  What what you know, ESPN's got them, you know, ranked number two at the corners, number 20
• 41:58
  overall.
• 41:59
  So if a guy, you know, like you said there, Bubba, do the Vikings or any team wanna take an
• 42:05
  early selection on him?
• 42:06
  I mean, maybe it's something late first round, early second, you know, third.
• 42:10
  I would be surprised if he drives past the third round.
• 42:15
  They'll have to have a heck of a combine.
• 42:19
  Yeah.
• 42:20
  But, I mean, yeah, he's gonna be the day two, day three pick.
• 42:25
  I wouldn't you know, that ACL, being, you know, missing that whole 2025 season, I just don't
• 42:32
  see it.
• 42:32
  I don't I I don't see it.
• 42:34
  I I think we pass on him.
• 42:37
  Yeah.
• 42:38
  Well, we're just in the position where we can't really take those flyers right now.
• 42:43
  We need guys, especially early on, that can start.
• 42:48
  Right?
• 42:48
  Like, they gotta play.
• 42:50
  Or maybe not starting, they're an Impact player, you know, along the, side.
• 42:56
  Biggest fan in the house.
• 42:58
  What up, Nicole?
• 42:59
  Thanks for
• 42:59
  What's up, Nicole?
• 43:01
  She always says hey to Cody.
• 43:03
  What about me and b, Nicole?
• 43:04
  I know.
• 43:05
  I know.
• 43:05
  It's like, come on now.
• 43:06
  Show some love.
• 43:09
  But, I mean, the only McCoy, he's got length, So that's gonna help him try to defend these
• 43:16
  passes.
• 43:16
  That's why he had four picks and double digits, pass deflections.
• 43:22
  If if if he was gonna find a role in this defense, it'd be press heavy, you know, outside
• 43:28
  defender.
• 43:29
  He could do that.
• 43:31
  Juan, I think the first year, you know you know, Cody, like you you said, Flores doesn't
• 43:38
  like to play too many rookies.
• 43:39
  So he might, you know, definitely be a backup, especially a special teams guy, you know, but,
• 43:44
  you know, coming out that injury, you're working them in slow.
• 43:47
  I mean, he's probably not gonna be able to, you know, opening day roster right away unless he's
• 43:51
  showing some kind of
• 43:53
  Right.
• 43:53
  And I just don't find us in a position where we're going to take a guy high in the in that
• 44:03
  second even a high second round.
• 44:05
  Like, you need that second round to to start.
• 44:08
  I that's my opinion.
• 44:10
  Your first two, three picks need to be impact players filling in starting roles on this team.
• 44:18
  And, you know, after that, you know, if he does drop into that third round and you're able to
• 44:23
  kinda snag him, then you can kinda talk about a fit as maybe one of these hybrid guys like
• 44:29
  Flores likes to use and in one of those kinda different positions.
• 44:32
  I could see that becoming something more there.
• 44:36
  Yep.
• 44:36
  And he is young.
• 44:37
  He's the youngest player on my list here at 20 years old.
• 44:42
  So that along with, Flores not, like, in young corners and that ACL, I I just I don't even
• 44:50
  think we'd take a flyer on him.
• 44:54
  Yep.
• 44:54
  So as far as the Vikings are concerned, he might be number two on ESPN's board, but
• 44:59
  probably farther down the list, with the Vikings just knowing where they're at.
• 45:04
  And so many holes on this team, they don't necessarily have to bank on one position.
• 45:11
  Moving on?
• 45:12
  Yeah.
• 45:13
  Awesome.
• 45:14
  Well, now we're gonna talk about Avion Terrell, cornerback out of Clemson.
• 45:20
  This is one that we're hearing a lot of talk with.
• 45:23
  I know some of the guys that were on with us.
• 45:25
  Before, you know, a couple weeks ago, we were talking some draft stuff with with Norse Viese
• 45:32
  and some of our other big fans here.
• 45:34
  But Avion Terrell at Clemson brings juice and playmaking to the secondary.
• 45:39
  Around five eleven, a hundred and eighty, he's twitchy, sudden, and loves to play downhill.
• 45:44
  He filled up the stat sheet with close to 50 tackles, multiple sacks, nearly double digit
• 45:49
  pass breakups, and even forced fumbles.
• 45:52
  He's aggressive in run support and as a blitzer, and he's not afraid to stick his nose
• 45:57
  in.
• 45:57
  You're drafting him for that combo of competitiveness and ball production.
• 46:01
  A guy can play outside or in the slot and change momentum with splash plays.
• 46:06
  To me, he sounds like a slot corner in the NFL Yeah.
• 46:10
  All day.
• 46:10
  Sounds like a guy that would fit really well into some of those hybrid roles that, you know,
• 46:17
  a heavy blitzer that Bflow would definitely love to have on the team.
• 46:22
  B, where are they slotting him on, like, the the big boards, the top 100, if you will, in
• 46:29
  the, you know, ESPN and and the bigger draft boards?
• 46:33
  Oh, right now, I'm I'm seeing him hanging around the middle of the first round there.
• 46:40
  Overall, ESPN's got a ranked number three overall in in the corners.
• 46:46
  Definitely 22 overall.
• 46:48
  So, I mean, they're they're picking so far from what I'm seeing is this is gonna be first round
• 46:53
  of defense, a heavy side of the ball.
• 46:55
  So definitely, you know, 14 pass deflections from what I'm reading here.
• 47:02
  It looks like he's a guy that can read the quarterback, you know, has that instinct that
• 47:08
  Flores likes to, you know, maybe jump on a play, you know, so definitely something to
• 47:16
  watch out for.
• 47:17
  Again, you know, a guy that doesn't seem like he has any injury or prowls down, knock on
• 47:23
  wood, so it might be a guy that the Mikes could target, you know, if they decide to stay at 18
• 47:29
  or maybe they slide down and, you know, if they think they got a
• 47:32
  couple guys that they can
• 47:33
  get a little bit later in the first round.
• 47:36
  Yeah.
• 47:37
  Because the first one we had up there, Mansoor, he he was twentieth.
• 47:44
  Is that right on the big board?
• 47:46
  16.
• 47:47
  16.
• 47:48
  16.
• 47:48
  Okay.
• 47:49
  So both of these guys are kind of in play for that eighteenth pick.
• 47:53
  You know, things always change up.
• 47:55
  You know, guys always end up being a reach.
• 47:58
  Very rarely, I feel like, are people reaching for a quarterback.
• 48:02
  I feel like those positions are so it's some of the ones that tend to fall.
• 48:05
  I think it really ends up on, like, where the rest of the board falls in.
• 48:11
  You know, a couple of the needs we've talked about, obviously, your your offensive line
• 48:17
  needs a little bit of help on that side.
• 48:20
  You know?
• 48:21
  But to me, this cornerback for the value that the pick is in the league now, I think it feels
• 48:29
  like we're gonna end up getting one of these two or maybe three guy.
• 48:33
  Like, to me, McCoy is probably not in that conversation, but you're kind of looking at
• 48:38
  your a and b picks are either, you know, the the kid from LSU we're just talking about or
• 48:45
  this Avion Terrell from Clemson.
• 48:48
  For me, that's probably what I'm looking at as GM, assuming that somebody doesn't fall down
• 48:54
  that's at a premium position that you maybe weren't expecting, be it an offensive lineman
• 49:00
  or possibly tight end.
• 49:01
  I think we need to get a lot better where tight end that's gonna be an interesting
• 49:05
  conversation, I think, in the draft room because I feel like the value between those two
• 49:09
  players are the same.
• 49:10
  Right?
• 49:10
  We're not drafting a quarterback in the first round.
• 49:12
  We're not drafting a left tackle in the first round.
• 49:15
  So as far as, like, the big board goes of value in that round, you know, a lot of these guys
• 49:22
  that you see come off tend to be in those more premium positions.
• 49:26
  Right?
• 49:27
  So to me, cornerback, tight end, wide receiver in that space, you know, I I don't think we're
• 49:33
  picking wide receiver this early, and we'll get into more of that probably next week with our
• 49:40
  draft coverage.
• 49:40
  Little teaser for you guys on what what we'll work to do the rest of the week, just to kinda
• 49:45
  cover these two sides of the ball.
• 49:46
  But, to me, I really feel like we're looking at, like, these two guys that we've been
• 49:53
  talking about as our one a, one b in that first round.
• 49:59
  See, you know, you called it with Terrell.
• 50:03
  You know, I I feel like he would be a good nickel slot cornerback.
• 50:08
  Would be a matchup weapon and coming off the slot as, you know, blitzing.
• 50:15
  I think, you know, I see something there, but my my top pick is coming up right now, I I
• 50:21
  believe, for sure.
• 50:24
  100%.
• 50:26
  Okay.
• 50:26
  Moving on.
• 50:29
  Yeah.
• 50:30
  Alright.
• 50:31
  Well, we'll see.
• 50:33
  Now we're talking Brandon Cease, cornerback from South Carolina.
• 50:37
  Brandon Sees from South Carolina might have the gaudiest interception numbers, but the coverage
• 50:42
  tape and traits are why he's climbing boards.
• 50:45
  Right around six foot and a buck ninety, smooth in and out of his brakes and comfortable in man
• 50:50
  coverage.
• 50:51
  He stays in phase downfield, doesn't panic when the ball's in the air, and you see a lot of
• 50:57
  competitive reps against top SEC wideouts.
• 51:00
  For teams that want to live in press and trust their corners on islands, Cease looks like he's
• 51:05
  a really clean first round profile.
• 51:09
  Okay.
• 51:10
  Okay.
• 51:12
  I mean, Bea, what do you got?
• 51:16
  From what I see on the big board, you know, right now, just have a, you know, like you
• 51:20
  said, climbing up the board.
• 51:22
  They got them overall on the big board at ranked number 30, but fifth fifth on the
• 51:29
  projection.
• 51:30
  But, you know, what I like is what Bubba just stated.
• 51:34
  I mean, it's something that, you know, and it you know, again, we know this this sport is
• 51:39
  gonna change 300 times before the time of the draft because people are gonna start spreading
• 51:44
  rumors.
• 51:45
  The combine times are gonna change.
• 51:47
  So, you know, if he if he's there, I mean, it might be something that bikes this might be
• 51:51
  where they, you know, could potentially drop down and be like, hey.
• 51:55
  We can get this guy that is ranked higher.
• 51:58
  I mean, I mean, that should be in the Viking border or draft Room right now and see what
• 52:03
  they're thinking.
• 52:06
  I mean, where was he from?
• 52:11
  What was the college?
• 52:13
  South Carolina.
• 52:14
  South Carolina.
• 52:15
  Alright.
• 52:15
  Alright.
• 52:16
  I mean, just being able to lock down a receiver and stay in phases all the way down the field,
• 52:23
  know, some some corners get away from that.
• 52:26
  So that's huge, actually.
• 52:28
  But and you said he was six foot or six two?
• 52:31
  They're Right around six
• 52:33
  foot, I think.
• 52:33
  Six foot.
• 52:34
  Six foot.
• 52:36
  I feel like he's a he'd be a decent d two or day two player draft pick.
• 52:43
  Yeah.
• 52:43
  And and, unfortunately, that's kind of the Vikings are all the way back at pick number 49
• 52:48
  in the second round, but can you package together maybe that late third round pick and
• 52:54
  move up to get into that 30 to 35 range where maybe he's available.
• 53:00
  That'll be interesting to see.
• 53:01
  So just to kinda rattle off for everyone who doesn't know, the the Vikings, talked a lot
• 53:05
  about that number 18 pick in the first round.
• 53:08
  Number pick number 49 in the second round, which is seventeenth in line.
• 53:13
  Pick number 82 in the third round, which is the eighteenth in line there, and then pick number
• 53:19
  97, which is the thirty third pick in that round.
• 53:24
  And round five, they have pick number 161, which is twenty third of that round.
• 53:31
  And round six, pick 194, which is fifteenth, in order in that round.
• 53:37
  Pick 234 in round seven, which is pick 18 in there, and then pick 240, which is 24.
• 53:45
  So you're kind of middle back of a lot of these rounds.
• 53:48
  What I can see so if you wanna get to one of these more, these guys that are sitting at some
• 53:52
  of the top end of those, you know, the the the later rounds as you're moving and you wanna get
• 53:58
  back into those, you have a little bit of capital to trade with some of these later round
• 54:03
  picks that you have a couple in in the later rounds to package them together to move up and
• 54:10
  to maybe move up into that top, you know, not in the top half, but into that top third
• 54:15
  necessarily.
• 54:16
  You're not gonna get all the way to the top of the second round, but maybe you could get up
• 54:20
  into those to reach for somebody.
• 54:22
  And and this to me, that's where you probably see this player falling into if he does fall
• 54:29
  into that range.
• 54:31
  Do you have hold on.
• 54:32
  Do you have a D'Angelo Ponds?
• 54:35
  Not on the cornerbacks.
• 54:37
  No.
• 54:38
  You got a profile on him?
• 54:40
  Hell yes.
• 54:43
  B, help me out.
• 54:44
  I think we know who Cody is looking for here.
• 54:47
  Oh my god.
• 54:48
  Okay.
• 54:50
  Okay.
• 54:50
  So, yeah, DeAngelo Ponds.
• 54:52
  He's a quarterback out of Indiana.
• 54:55
  Yep.
• 54:56
  Five nine, hundred and seventy five hundred and seventy pounds, aggressive, high effort
• 55:01
  defender, strong tackling, willingness, excellent processing for disguise heavy
• 55:07
  schemes, which is right up our alley.
• 55:10
  He would you know, he could be that hybrid nickel blitz specialist, just a chaos creator.
• 55:15
  I think this is Indiana.
• 55:18
  From Indiana.
• 55:18
  Indiana.
• 55:19
  Oh, where did you
• 55:20
  champion now.
• 55:21
  What are his grades, big b?
• 55:25
  Well, right now, they got him eleventh overall in the corners.
• 55:33
  They got him seventy eighth overall on the big board.
• 55:36
  So, I mean, there's somewhere you know, he probably got a lot of upside.
• 55:41
  You know, that's all that you're showing on him, but, you know
• 55:44
  But see, this is where somebody like that could fit, and that actually fits into the Vikings
• 55:49
  board to me because he's going to be undervalued.
• 55:53
  Right?
• 55:53
  So talking about the picks.
• 55:55
  Right?
• 55:56
  That that eightieth overall or what'd you say?
• 55:59
  Seventy eighth overall?
• 56:00
  No.
• 56:01
  He's a pick now.
• 56:01
  He's a pick.
• 56:02
  So you have those two third round picks at eighty two and ninety seven.
• 56:07
  Right?
• 56:07
  So you could package together maybe one of your sixth round picks with your third to move up a
• 56:14
  few picks to maybe get this guy in that, you know, middle of the third round, which makes it
• 56:20
  a more valuable pick.
• 56:22
  And you're kinda blessed.
• 56:24
  I love how much Cody loves him.
• 56:26
  Little undersized.
• 56:27
  I think that's probably what's hurting him.
• 56:28
  Yep.
• 56:29
  Yep.
• 56:29
  A player that fits into these kind of hybridized roles that is the b flow defense.
• 56:36
  Absolutely.
• 56:37
  No.
• 56:38
  Yeah.
• 56:38
  This is my pick for sure.
• 56:40
  Cornerback wise, you know, just watching you know, because I've I've started paying
• 56:47
  attention to Indiana when Signeti came into coach, and this dude's coming up with play
• 56:55
  after play.
• 56:57
  I'm actually surprised here.
• 56:59
  What was he?
• 56:59
  Was seventy fifth, seventy eighth?
• 57:01
  Seventy eighth overall.
• 57:02
  That's crazy.
• 57:03
  Hurting him, man.
• 57:04
  I I guarantee you that that's the knock on him across the board
• 57:09
  because haven't told the fact that in
• 57:11
  the end of the day, they've been that powerhouse like they showed this year.
• 57:14
  So Yeah.
• 57:15
  I mean, they were undefeated.
• 57:17
  Right.
• 57:18
  The last corner that I have on mine, Chris Johnson, San Diego State, six foot, one ninety
• 57:27
  five, 21 years old.
• 57:29
  I don't even know why they gave me this one because it says, physical frame and tackling
• 57:34
  value, the scheme versatility, upside, special teams value, projected role, rotational corner,
• 57:42
  dime defender, special teams contributor.
• 57:44
  Like, seventh round undrafted free agent.
• 57:48
  I'm sorry.
• 57:49
  Yeah.
• 57:50
  That that does sound like a guy that will be mister irrelevant or somewhere down there.
• 57:54
  I mean, unless his combine numbers change and, you know, his his personal work all changes.
• 58:01
  Yeah.
• 58:02
  He's gonna I I don't know why he's up that high either.
• 58:05
  I mean, they got him seventh, I think, on the big board here.
• 58:08
  Oh, they got about fourth.
• 58:10
  Fourth overall of the position, twenty ninth on the big board.
• 58:13
  So
• 58:15
  yeah.
• 58:16
  No.
• 58:16
  The last one I had on my board with the picks that or the players that got sent to me was
• 58:22
  Colton Hood, cornerback from Tennessee.
• 58:26
  Yep.
• 58:27
  Yep.
• 58:27
  His number
• 58:28
  is profile on Colton Hood.
• 58:30
  10 Colton Hood at Tennessee gives you that physical outside corner archetype team loves.
• 58:35
  Six foot, mid one nineties, strong at the line of scrimmage, and really effective in press.
• 58:40
  The ball production is still coming along, just one pick this past season, but he consistently
• 58:45
  stays glued to receivers and forces tight window throws.
• 58:49
  He's patient in his pedal, flips his hips well, and tackles with some pop.
• 58:53
  Hood feels like a high floor starter type who might not always lead the league in
• 58:57
  interceptions, but he's going to quietly erase his side off the field.
• 59:02
  Recent side
• 59:03
  off.
• 59:03
  Might be looking at him because they he's got one more pick than the Jets old team, so Jeff
• 59:08
  might be taking him.
• 59:09
  Yeah.
• 59:12
  Yeah.
• 59:12
  I mean, not bad.
• 59:14
  Not bad stats.
• 59:15
  You guys.
• 59:16
  Oh my goodness.
• 59:18
  Oh my goodness.
• 59:18
  Coming from I would do I
• 59:21
  would do one round.
• 59:22
  I couldn't do This
• 59:23
  is not a mock draft.
• 59:24
  This is not a mock draft.
• 59:26
  We are just given some player profiles.
• 59:28
  We have till fucking April, dude.
• 59:30
  Who said it was a draft?
• 59:32
  Get it together,
• 59:33
  Steve.
• 59:34
  Steve.
• 59:34
  Hey.
• 59:35
  Calm down, Steve.
• 59:36
  We got this, Steve.
• 59:37
  Take a chill pill, man.
• 59:38
  We'll get to our mock drafts later in the season.
• 59:40
  We're just doing some quick player profiles at a couple positions of need for our Minnesota
• 59:46
  Vikings.
• 59:47
  We know that you guys over in Green Bay need everything, starting with the special teams
• 59:52
  coordinator.
• 59:52
  So, we'll do profiles on those maybe, some Wednesday, for y'all.
• 59:59
  Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  So Colton Hood, what you got on him, b?
• 1:00:02
  Where is he at on the board?
• 1:00:03
  Colton Hood, they got him six out of position for the corners.
• 1:00:10
  35.
• 1:00:11
  So early second round, they're saying overall grade at 87.
• 1:00:16
  So, you know, it's somebody that,
• 1:00:21
  you know Once again, you're talking talking
• 1:00:23
  a day three guy, third, fourth round.
• 1:00:26
  We're we're maybe talking about, you know, where where we're finding these players at
• 1:00:32
  Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  Which is good because that's where the Vikings have their picks.
• 1:00:37
  Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  And they seem like they've been doing a little bit better with the midday, you know, second,
• 1:00:42
  third day, you know, late round picks more than they have been for the first, you know, first
• 1:00:49
  round or second round.
• 1:00:50
  So but, like,
• 1:00:52
  you see see them not try to be the smartest guys in the room.
• 1:00:56
  Right?
• 1:00:56
  Like And I I was
• 1:00:57
  just gonna state that.
• 1:00:58
  I I want I I wanna see the Vikings not be reaching or trying to outsmart everybody and,
• 1:01:07
  you know, and be like, oh, we follow this guy.
• 1:01:10
  We could drive to him now.
• 1:01:11
  You know, we're we're stealing somebody's pick, you know.
• 1:01:14
  You know, so
• 1:01:17
  Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  We don't need any of that any of those shenanigans.
• 1:01:21
  No.
• 1:01:22
  When when you're at 18, you take you know, you gotta take a need, but you gotta also take the
• 1:01:28
  best person there and, you know And that's why
• 1:01:31
  we're and the way that we're kinda starting our profiling is is realizing the needs of the
• 1:01:37
  team, but also and and we'll get to quarterbacks and the things like and I'm kinda
• 1:01:42
  stacking it up at the front end of our coverage with positions that we feel that we need.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  And we're gonna talk a lot more about those.
• 1:01:51
  We're not gonna talk about quarterbacks a whole lot in our draft coverage because we just don't
• 1:01:54
  need it.
• 1:01:55
  I think we're gonna talk a lot about these cornerbacks, talk a lot about the safeties,
• 1:01:59
  tight end to me.
• 1:02:00
  Mhmm.
• 1:02:00
  You know, the draft needs board.
• 1:02:02
  It is maybe three or four positions deep, and I don't mind if they double dip on some of these
• 1:02:08
  positions.
• 1:02:09
  Right?
• 1:02:10
  Because you need to get better.
• 1:02:11
  And for me, I think the offensive line woes are are fixed in free agency.
• 1:02:16
  I think that your, you know, the running back situation, probably fixed in free agency.
• 1:02:23
  Not that you're not drafting maybe a guy in the third round, but I think you've seen enough
• 1:02:27
  that you like what you have with Jordan Mason.
• 1:02:29
  He's probably, to me, gonna be your starter next year, assuming Aaron Jones is cut from
• 1:02:36
  this team.
• 1:02:36
  You're gonna lean heavy on Jordan Mason.
• 1:02:39
  Maybe you pick up a young guy or you're able to grab a lot of these running backs that you can
• 1:02:44
  get for damn near league minimums to come in and and to take, what, 10 carries?
• 1:02:50
  Like, how many carries are you gonna ask of a second running back on this team anyway?
• 1:02:55
  Yeah.
• 1:02:56
  No.
• 1:02:56
  And you're and you're right.
• 1:02:57
  I mean, I'll I'll let you find I mean, I'll let you turn into what the saints used to have with
• 1:03:03
  Kamara and oh, I can't think of the other guy.
• 1:03:07
  Ingram.
• 1:03:08
  Where they could, you know, both take tag carries and they both have 70 to a 100 yards
• 1:03:14
  and maybe a touchdown or two between them.
• 1:03:16
  But, yeah, right now, I mean, you know, Mason's probably got penciled in as your starter unless
• 1:03:22
  you find somebody, somebody gets cut or, you know, you call Cody up.
• 1:03:27
  He's probably got about seven names in his back pocket on teams that he's coaches that won't
• 1:03:31
  fit the Vikings every you know?
• 1:03:34
  So
• 1:03:34
  Facts.
• 1:03:35
  Facts.
• 1:03:36
  Honestly, Man.
• 1:03:39
  Well, I
• 1:03:39
  mean, so much of
• 1:03:40
  it is just the the the coach's inability to know how to use a bell cow running back anyway.
• 1:03:47
  Right?
• 1:03:47
  So what's the point of of wasting a high draft pick on something, of that nature when it's not
• 1:03:53
  gonna get used?
• 1:03:54
  And I think Bflow coming back and getting that big contract and kinda like we said, becoming
• 1:03:59
  the highest paid defensive coordinator in the league.
• 1:04:02
  Yep.
• 1:04:02
  You you've you've been throwing the man freaking scraps, and he's been putting it
• 1:04:06
  together.
• 1:04:07
  Why don't you go give him some elite talent and see what he can cook with then?
• 1:04:10
  Mhmm.
• 1:04:11
  Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Honestly.
• 1:04:12
  Because, I mean, we've literally been just scraping the bottom of the barrel through free
• 1:04:18
  agency just grabbing whoever would fit, not even the best person, but whoever would fit cap
• 1:04:24
  wise and stuff like that.
• 1:04:25
  So, I mean, he he's able to, you know, polish the turd, I guess.
• 1:04:32
  So right now looking up here, they're saying the Vikings needs primary premier need a center
• 1:04:42
  upgrade their secondary, specifically targeting a top corner.
• 1:04:46
  They got C South Brandon C's or hood out there, and the safety to replace Harrison Smith.
• 1:04:53
  So their their top five is corner safety, d line, running back, and why
• 1:04:57
  we're covering d b's on our first piece of draft coverage, man.
• 1:05:01
  We already know.
• 1:05:02
  See how
• 1:05:02
  You know what?
• 1:05:03
  I'm I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a sign.
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  ESPN.
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  Like, this is how good I am.
• 1:05:08
  I'm just watching the team play and go, this is where they need to get better.
• 1:05:11
  I called the cornerback thing out of training camp last year.
• 1:05:15
  I watched the first preseason game, and it's like, we are cooked on the outside.
• 1:05:18
  What the hell happened?
• 1:05:20
  Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  You know?
• 1:05:21
  And I don't think anybody really expected that, but I there was immediate problems at outside
• 1:05:26
  corner.
• 1:05:26
  And if I'm beefalo, I'm looking at it and going, you guys gotta get me some dogs out
• 1:05:31
  here.
• 1:05:31
  You gotta get me some dogs because if I don't have them on the outside, the whole damn thing
• 1:05:35
  falls apart.
• 1:05:36
  Yep.
• 1:05:37
  No.
• 1:05:38
  You're exactly right.
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  So
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  Yeah.
• 1:05:40
  The center thing to me, I think you're getting a vet.
• 1:05:42
  I I think you're getting a veteran center.
• 1:05:44
  You're not gonna you're not gonna draft the center.
• 1:05:46
  You're out of college and put them in that position anyway.
• 1:05:49
  Maybe if you were drafting in the top 10 and you were gonna get the best center coming out
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  of college, but young centers don't play in this league.
• 1:05:57
  It's just not something that's out there, and you're gonna have some people available.
• 1:06:00
  So are we ready to move on to safeties now, boys?
• 1:06:03
  Yeah.
• 1:06:04
  Let's
• 1:06:04
  go.
• 1:06:05
  Well, talking about dogs, I I think everybody's gonna recognize the name at the top of this
• 1:06:09
  list.
• 1:06:10
  Caleb Downs, safety out of Ohio State.
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  Obviously, a lot of talk about this young man and for good reason coming out of a program
• 1:06:18
  like OSU.
• 1:06:19
  Right?
• 1:06:19
  I mean, the Ohio State.
• 1:06:21
  Caleb Downs from Ohio State is the headline safety in this class, a true do it all
• 1:06:26
  defender.
• 1:06:27
  Around six foot two zero five.
• 1:06:29
  I bet B Flo loves that.
• 1:06:31
  He put up nearly 70 tackles, tackles for loss, a sack, and a couple picks, forced fumbles, and
• 1:06:37
  the advanced metrics love him.
• 1:06:39
  He can play deep middle, rotate into the box, a roll down over the slot and hold up in
• 1:06:44
  coverage.
• 1:06:44
  His instincts and angles in the run game are outstanding.
• 1:06:47
  He feels like he's two steps ahead, and he's a reliable tackler in space.
• 1:06:52
  Downs projects as the type of safety you can build a secondary around for the next decade.
• 1:06:56
  God, B Flow's gotta be drooling over this kid.
• 1:06:59
  Where do they have him on the big board, B?
• 1:07:01
  It seems like he's gonna be out of reach for the Vikings.
• 1:07:04
  Yeah.
• 1:07:04
  He's gonna be about 13 picks out of reach.
• 1:07:07
  They got him ranked number five overall, first in the position.
• 1:07:13
  I mean, like you said, it was a name that ain't gonna shock anybody.
• 1:07:18
  So, I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, looking at the top five, you know,
• 1:07:25
  there's some teams that could use a solid safety back there, especially if you could you
• 1:07:30
  know, if they're projecting that you're gonna build this team over the next decade around
• 1:07:34
  this guy.
• 1:07:34
  Range.
• 1:07:35
  And what else could they need?
• 1:07:37
  What I'm interested in and who else is picking up there that maybe you guys can work a deal
• 1:07:41
  with?
• 1:07:41
  Because to me, Bernard could be a really good trade piece moving into this draft that I don't
• 1:07:47
  think a lot of people are thinking about because of the emergence of Dallas Turner at
• 1:07:53
  the end of the year.
• 1:07:54
  Is there a space where you're not trading picks to move up, but you're trading a player,
• 1:07:59
  especially at that outside rusher to trade up into that spot and to get a player.
• 1:08:06
  Trading your first round with Grenard to move up and to get somebody like this.
• 1:08:11
  To me, that this is maybe the one player on the board at all because he feels he's your new
• 1:08:18
  Harrison Smith.
• 1:08:19
  Right?
• 1:08:19
  He is your new fifteen year starter at the position, the leader at a position that is
• 1:08:25
  important to this team, to the coach that would be in that.
• 1:08:31
  Be if you could look at the big draft board and just kinda see who's gonna be in that five to
• 1:08:35
  10 range.
• 1:08:36
  Nope.
• 1:08:36
  I got it.
• 1:08:37
  So Giants at number five, they're they got Young's defense.
• 1:08:43
  That guy would probably fit there.
• 1:08:44
  The Browns, you know, their defense is already solid.
• 1:08:48
  You add another piece there.
• 1:08:50
  I think they're going offense.
• 1:08:53
  Washington, you know, they're kind of up and coming.
• 1:08:55
  I mean, they could go many different ways.
• 1:08:58
  Here's the city, another team that's kind of, you know, what are we gonna do after we didn't
• 1:09:02
  make playoffs?
• 1:09:04
  You know, they might be looking at the Bengals, another team that, you know, kind of has a
• 1:09:09
  pretty deep pretty decent defense.
• 1:09:12
  And then you got at eleven, you got Miami who just pretty much, you know, released a whole
• 1:09:18
  bunch of players.
• 1:09:19
  So, you know, they're kinda rebuilding.
• 1:09:21
  Then you got Dallas at number 12.
• 1:09:22
  So Dallas would be one I'd be feared about.
• 1:09:26
  Because I don't think he's gonna go fifth overall.
• 1:09:28
  You got too many teams that are gonna reach for quarterbacks, and you're gonna have edge
• 1:09:32
  rushers.
• 1:09:33
  So I bet this kid drafts gets drafted somewhere in the seven to 10.
• 1:09:36
  Steve said in his mock draft, Vikings took Jared McCoy.
• 1:09:40
  Another quarterback from Tennessee that we talked
• 1:09:42
  about.
• 1:09:43
  No.
• 1:09:44
  The the the Vikings are gonna move up.
• 1:09:46
  Cody is out on
• 1:09:47
  Tennessee quarterbacks.
• 1:09:49
  Cody is out on Steve.
• 1:09:50
  I can't decide which one
• 1:09:52
  it is.
• 1:09:52
  I'm gonna make Steve
• 1:09:54
  a sign and just every time he wants to pop off, it's just relax, Steve.
• 1:10:00
  I I think if the Vikings are
• 1:10:02
  to move up, they're gonna have to wait to see what Cleveland does because like I said,
• 1:10:06
  Cleveland's got a stud defense.
• 1:10:08
  They don't wanna, you know, you know, lose too much of that.
• 1:10:12
  But I think they're gonna have to get ahead of Dallas if they want to move up there because
• 1:10:16
  Dallas, you know, they like to have a strong defense too, they just traded away a couple
• 1:10:20
  pieces this year.
• 1:10:21
  So, you know, they're they might be fighting in that range if this is the guy that they wanna
• 1:10:25
  target.
• 1:10:26
  Like we said, this would be a it would be a massive deal.
• 1:10:29
  It would be the biggest surprise of the draft to see somebody trade up and to trade a player
• 1:10:35
  of Grunard's ability.
• 1:10:37
  Now him coming off the peck injury is going to hurt you a little bit, but he would be worth a
• 1:10:42
  first round or an early just by himself.
• 1:10:45
  Right?
• 1:10:46
  So if you're getting a late first and Grenard to move up I mean, you're moving up 10 spots,
• 1:10:51
  essentially.
• 1:10:52
  Right?
• 1:10:52
  You're moving up that eight to 10 spot range.
• 1:10:55
  That that's gotta be some juice.
• 1:10:56
  Right?
• 1:10:57
  And I don't think that you're wanting to trade a next year's first to maybe do that.
• 1:11:02
  You're looking to cut some cap and to move a player anyway.
• 1:11:05
  I think that would be a dream scenario.
• 1:11:07
  That would be to the right team.
• 1:11:09
  You would have to have that, and the player would have to fall into that.
• 1:11:12
  But I'm just kinda throwing out a hypothetical.
• 1:11:15
  A lot of things have to go right that would work in the Vikings' favor.
• 1:11:19
  Mhmm.
• 1:11:20
  You know?
• 1:11:20
  Because because you have Dallas Turner kind of emerging and being more productive on that side
• 1:11:26
  of the ball and in that role than he was kind of playing the Andrew Van Ginkle role on the
• 1:11:32
  other side.
• 1:11:33
  But the the the downside of trading a player is, you know, until we figure out our cap
• 1:11:37
  situation, I mean, we kinda pretty much are stuck right now.
• 1:11:41
  So, I mean, well, I should start making one now.
• 1:11:44
  Hold.
• 1:11:45
  Right?
• 1:11:45
  You would trade a big contract
• 1:11:47
  Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  For a young player and and a first round pick that that fills a position of need taking away
• 1:11:53
  from a position that you're already pretty strong in.
• 1:11:56
  Like I said, it has to be a dream scenario, and you'd have to have a lot of moving pieces in
• 1:12:00
  there to work.
• 1:12:01
  To me, the team that you're trading with is the Browns.
• 1:12:05
  That Caleb Downs is there, and you're going, hey.
• 1:12:08
  We're gonna give you the other side of the ball to put opposite of Myles Garrett.
• 1:12:14
  Right?
• 1:12:14
  Like, to put opposite of your now you would be the envy of the league with those two guys on
• 1:12:22
  there.
• 1:12:22
  Now I know both of them play from that side of the ball, and coming from a traditional three,
• 1:12:27
  four that Grunard does, maybe it doesn't quite work.
• 1:12:31
  But, you know, you're kinda I I don't think that the Browns are going to necessarily pick
• 1:12:37
  there because of their team needs.
• 1:12:39
  Right?
• 1:12:39
  Like, they need players on the offensive side of the ball.
• 1:12:42
  If they're gonna be building around Shadoor Sanders, like, they need fucking seven wide
• 1:12:46
  receivers.
• 1:12:48
  Well and that's what
• 1:12:48
  I was just gonna kinda throw off there.
• 1:12:51
  Is there a drafty value for Addison to help move up in that six or eight with the Browns?
• 1:12:59
  I don't know if his value is enough to get you up that many picks, but you may be able to
• 1:13:03
  package him with another later round pick as well to move up that far.
• 1:13:08
  To me, Greinhard's like the one piece that you have that's a proven commodity Mhmm.
• 1:13:12
  That would get you up those because he's essentially another first round pick.
• 1:13:17
  Right?
• 1:13:17
  Or maybe a high second round of value that put on the Steve, Vikings top needs, we just went
• 1:13:22
  through them a minute ago.
• 1:13:24
  From ESPN and the other analysts, they're kinda saying DB, whether it's cornerback safety, and
• 1:13:29
  then center.
• 1:13:30
  I just don't think
• 1:13:31
  Because the line running back,
• 1:13:33
  you know.
• 1:13:33
  But did they did they really put center as our first top need?
• 1:13:36
  They put them as one
• 1:13:37
  of the top five.
• 1:13:38
  I mean, in their little description, was you could try to get a prime premier center, but
• 1:13:44
  corners were next and the d line and then so
• 1:13:48
  I mean, it is, but do I put it up there as your top need in the draft?
• 1:13:54
  Is it a need in this team in the off season?
• 1:13:57
  Around.
• 1:13:58
  I mean, honestly,
• 1:13:59
  I could hear mean, that's
• 1:13:59
  the thing is that if you need a starting caliber center and to me, you don't need a top
• 1:14:04
  flight center.
• 1:14:05
  You're going to get your best version of Darisaw coming back, hopefully, which and I
• 1:14:11
  think that, you know, Jackson at left guard, I think that left side of the offensive line with
• 1:14:16
  a healthy Darisaw is pretty damn good.
• 1:14:20
  Mhmm.
• 1:14:20
  So you need someone serviceable at center.
• 1:14:24
  And to me, you can find a veteran that's serviceable in that position.
• 1:14:28
  You're not drafting I don't think you're drafting a center in this draft at all.
• 1:14:32
  I don't think you're doing it.
• 1:14:34
  I think you can piecemeal the, the the offensive lineback together with veterans, and
• 1:14:40
  you're addressing that in the offseason from the free agent class.
• 1:14:44
  That's not You're you're gonna draft I mean, right now, I'm looking at the big board on
• 1:14:49
  ESPN.
• 1:14:50
  They only got three centers listed on their draft board, and the first one comes in from
• 1:14:55
  Auburn, six three three hundred pound, Connor Lure, and they got him wearing sixty first
• 1:15:02
  overall.
• 1:15:02
  So Right.
• 1:15:04
  That's
• 1:15:04
  definitely something we need.
• 1:15:06
  Day two.
• 1:15:07
  Day two.
• 1:15:08
  Day three.
• 1:15:08
  And that guy is not starting on your offense.
• 1:15:11
  And they only got three?
• 1:15:13
  The the on the big board, they only got three centers, four offensive tackles, and about 15
• 1:15:25
  or no.
• 1:15:25
  I'm sorry.
• 1:15:26
  About 15 offensive tackles and four offensive guards.
• 1:15:29
  So we're not looking anywhere in the first round for, you know, an offensive lineman.
• 1:15:35
  No.
• 1:15:35
  We are
• 1:15:36
  picking our first two picks are going to be defense.
• 1:15:39
  They're going to be some of these names that we've just talked about tonight.
• 1:15:42
  And they and they gotta be Impact.
• 1:15:44
  I mean, I I think you said it before there, Bubba.
• 1:15:46
  They gotta be impact right away.
• 1:15:48
  They can't be that's
• 1:15:49
  why I'm wondering if you're not, like, not necessarily selling the farm.
• 1:15:53
  And to me, that's why you can't, like, you can't go all in on the Joe Burrow trade.
• 1:15:57
  You would be torching everything that you've been working on building for the last few years
• 1:16:04
  to even to even get that player.
• 1:16:06
  Like, it's just not that big of a need.
• 1:16:08
  As much as everybody wants to shit on JJ McCarthy and the problems you had, you need a
• 1:16:13
  serviceable backup at at quarterback.
• 1:16:17
  You because or someone to push maybe.
• 1:16:19
  I don't like the Kyler Murray talk either.
• 1:16:21
  I don't think Kyler Murray fits what KOC wants to do.
• 1:16:25
  I just don't think it's a good fit.
• 1:16:27
  Mhmm.
• 1:16:27
  The only I mean, the thing with the Burrow is yes.
• 1:16:31
  I mean, if if Cincinnati called the bike, you just say, hey.
• 1:16:34
  We're gonna offer Borough to you for this.
• 1:16:37
  You're most likely gonna take it unless it's, you know, everything, you know, 20 picks or
• 1:16:42
  whatever.
• 1:16:44
  The Once the trade has to
• 1:16:45
  be a mock draft.
• 1:16:47
  We are merely profiling the top players at cornerback and safety.
• 1:16:53
  Okay?
• 1:16:54
  Is this all Packers fans?
• 1:16:55
  I see why the Vikings and the bears are like, why we hate Packers fans so much.
• 1:16:58
  You guys wanna listen.
• 1:17:00
  No.
• 1:17:00
  Out of your ears, Steve.
• 1:17:01
  And I'm like that.
• 1:17:03
  I mean, real
• 1:17:03
  And it's like, okay.
• 1:17:05
  That's why I need to sign.
• 1:17:06
  Relax, Steve.
• 1:17:07
  I didn't even make a comment about Downs.
• 1:17:09
  I know he's
• 1:17:09
  not even in the picture.
• 1:17:10
  I haven't
• 1:17:11
  even No.
• 1:17:11
  It's a it's a dream, and that's why we were talking trade scenarios and maybe what they
• 1:17:15
  could do because, yeah, the the guy's the top defender.
• 1:17:18
  I'm assuming, is there is there a a defense is there an edge rusher that's above him on the
• 1:17:24
  board, or is it four quarterbacks and Caleb Downs in the top five?
• 1:17:27
  No.
• 1:17:28
  They got Bailey ranked number four.
• 1:17:30
  And the and the pressure out of Texas Tech.
• 1:17:35
  Right.
• 1:17:36
  Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  So we were merely talking about a a possible So I
• 1:17:38
  So I mean, mean, the thing is is, you know, we all you know, we're we're
• 1:17:42
  sitting here breaking down who we think we're gonna pick.
• 1:17:44
  There's only one team right now that knows who what they're gonna do with their first pick,
• 1:17:50
  and that's the Raiders.
• 1:17:51
  They I mean, they they can play a smoke and gun, but, I mean, they they know who they're
• 1:17:56
  taking or what they're gonna do.
• 1:17:57
  They're the only ones that will set the table.
• 1:18:01
  I mean, they could trade out, they could pick somebody, know.
• 1:18:03
  There you go.
• 1:18:04
  That's what they need to do, trade out.
• 1:18:06
  Oh, I I said that.
• 1:18:07
  I just hope that I hope we could talk about close to the drive because I got ready to talk.
• 1:18:12
  I mean, you guys might might think I'm a Raider saying after I'm about about to say.
• 1:18:16
  So
• 1:18:17
  But yeah.
• 1:18:18
  No.
• 1:18:18
  For for Caleb Downs, man, like, yeah, it's it's a dream.
• 1:18:22
  You know?
• 1:18:23
  Chip chair and a chance, but, you know, I I'm a realist.
• 1:18:27
  He he would be if he's there, yeah, I'm taking him, but I just don't see him falling.
• 1:18:33
  I don't think we like, are we gonna trade are we gonna trade Grinnard?
• 1:18:37
  Do we trust Dallas Turner fully?
• 1:18:39
  Because, I mean, in the beginning of the season, middle of the season
• 1:18:43
  there too.
• 1:18:43
  That's a young guy that was supposed to be a stud.
• 1:18:46
  But the thing is is we know the closer it gets to the draft in the week of, the day out, the
• 1:18:50
  hours before, rumors start flying and, you know, bad reports coming out because some teams
• 1:18:56
  at one, and we're gonna throw leak stuff out and people are gonna believe it.
• 1:19:00
  You know, I mean, the Raiders might throw everybody a bone and, you know, draft the edge
• 1:19:07
  rusher and throw everybody's board out of whack.
• 1:19:09
  I mean, know, so I mean, we're all just speculating here what we would wanna do if we
• 1:19:14
  had control.
• 1:19:15
  I mean Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  And it's not even, like, what we'd want to do.
• 1:19:17
  I'm not saying that I wanna trade Jonathan Jonathan Grunard.
• 1:19:20
  We're just looking at the hypotheticals as if you wanted to Well,
• 1:19:23
  Well, it wouldn't make sense.
• 1:19:24
  Were in the position that you wanted to get Caleb Downs and you were gonna go, what would
• 1:19:28
  that have to look like?
• 1:19:29
  And I think these are the conversations that are going on in the draft room.
• 1:19:33
  It's like, hey.
• 1:19:34
  If this guy's sitting there at six or seven and we have a little bit of a relationship and we
• 1:19:38
  know they're not going to select him, but Dallas is right behind them, What are we
• 1:19:43
  talking about?
• 1:19:44
  And those calls are happening well before the draft ever happens.
• 1:19:48
  Right?
• 1:19:49
  That there's you're like, hey.
• 1:19:51
  If he's fallen to you, you guys aren't gonna pick him because you're solid at that position.
• 1:19:56
  What would it take?
• 1:19:57
  And those are the conversations that are going back and forth between these GMs and, you know,
• 1:20:02
  the what our coaching staff.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  And GMs of other teams
• 1:20:07
  at this point.
• 1:20:08
  And that's why I said, I think, like, if he does fall past Cleveland, the Bikers have to be
• 1:20:12
  on on the roll with, you know, starting to make phone calls at seven, eight, nine, ten and be
• 1:20:17
  like, hey, we need to get ahead of the Dallas Cowboys because we know they just traded up a
• 1:20:22
  couple people.
• 1:20:22
  They're gonna be looking at this guy.
• 1:20:23
  Right.
• 1:20:25
  Hey, Kevin.
• 1:20:25
  We're talking about we're talking about how much the farm we would have to sell to get
• 1:20:30
  Caleb Downs on the Vikings.
• 1:20:32
  Now you remember, Kevin's a bears fan, so he doesn't care what the Vikings do.
• 1:20:36
  They he hopes they trade everybody.
• 1:20:37
  Bears don't care draft.
• 1:20:39
  They got a team.
• 1:20:40
  They're going to the Super Bowl next year.
• 1:20:41
  I already know the talk in Chicago.
• 1:20:44
  So I
• 1:20:44
  already know, man.
• 1:20:46
  Alright.
• 1:20:46
  Moving on from the Caleb Downs talk.
• 1:20:48
  We're gonna talk about Dylan Tieneneman.
• 1:20:51
  Safety from Oregon.
• 1:20:54
  Dylan Tieneneman now at Oregon after breaking out at Purdue is a tackling machine with real
• 1:20:59
  coverage chops.
• 1:21:01
  About six foot two zero five in this past season, he racked up close to a 100 tackles
• 1:21:06
  with tackles for loss, a sack, and multiple interceptions, all while grading out extremely
• 1:21:10
  well in coverage.
• 1:21:12
  He quickly diagnoses route concepts and plays with great range, rarely looks out of control.
• 1:21:18
  You're getting a high volume, high IQ safety who can stay on the field in any situation and
• 1:21:24
  be the quarterback of your back end.
• 1:21:27
  Bee, where is he at on the big board here?
• 1:21:30
  Well, we got Dallas at five.
• 1:21:32
  We got Tentlemen at 40.
• 1:21:36
  43.
• 1:21:37
  Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  That's what I thought.
• 1:21:39
  Kevin Cherry, you are out of control, dude.
• 1:21:43
  The bears are not getting feels like you're drafting what?
• 1:21:48
  Twenty fifth, twenty sixth?
• 1:21:51
  Oh, there there's a reach there.
• 1:21:52
  I mean, you know, Kevin Kevin
• 1:21:54
  28.
• 1:21:55
  You're not you're not you'd have to trade Caleb Williams to get Caleb Downs.
• 1:21:59
  You yeah.
• 1:22:00
  You you would almost have to pull off a a semi Ricky Williams trade where you're trading
• 1:22:05
  pretty good draft cup capital to move up to the fifth.
• 1:22:09
  Yeah.
• 1:22:09
  Keep dreaming, Kevin.
• 1:22:11
  Keep dreaming.
• 1:22:13
  Dylan Tienenman.
• 1:22:14
  Where'd you say he was, B?
• 1:22:15
  Sorry.
• 1:22:15
  I was just
• 1:22:16
  Overall, forty third ranked on the big board.
• 1:22:19
  Okay.
• 1:22:19
  We're in the big draft for bouncing.
• 1:22:21
  Possibly in that range for our second round picks.
• 1:22:25
  Now we're kind of we're talking.
• 1:22:28
  We could move into that position if this guy falls.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah.
• 1:22:31
  He wouldn't have to fall a lot.
• 1:22:33
  We could be able to give gives me
• 1:22:35
  headaches.
• 1:22:38
  No.
• 1:22:38
  He he's not wrong.
• 1:22:39
  He's a he's a big guy.
• 1:22:40
  He's a big Justin Fields guy, so he's not like a bull.
• 1:22:43
  Where's Justin Fields?
• 1:22:44
  Is he still in the league?
• 1:22:45
  Four three up there.
• 1:22:47
  He's
• 1:22:48
  with the Jets.
• 1:22:49
  I liked Fields, man.
• 1:22:50
  I don't mean
• 1:22:50
  Well, that's the thing is,
• 1:22:52
  it's either it's either you gotta reach for downs or you're not even gonna take safety.
• 1:22:56
  You gotta go day two with the safety.
• 1:22:59
  Would oh, dude.
• 1:23:00
  Interesting QB talk here.
• 1:23:02
  Would a wow.
• 1:23:05
  Could the could the Vikings end up with a Justin Fields as your competition against JJ
• 1:23:15
  and serviceable backup player?
• 1:23:17
  That would be interesting.
• 1:23:19
  He's he's made comments when he was leaving the bears that he was hoping Minnesota would have
• 1:23:25
  reached out.
• 1:23:26
  So but
• 1:23:29
  I think
• 1:23:29
  I think Jets locked him up, though, for this year.
• 1:23:31
  I could be wrong.
• 1:23:36
  What?
• 1:23:36
  I don't
• 1:23:36
  know what that means.
• 1:23:38
  Are you are you is she talking like Super Bowl odds?
• 1:23:41
  Because that makes sense.
• 1:23:43
  Okay.
• 1:23:44
  Alright.
• 1:23:46
  Steve, what kind of cheese you got over there right now?
• 1:23:49
  Yeah.
• 1:23:49
  No kidding.
• 1:23:52
  I think they will get AR 15 if requested.
• 1:23:56
  Oh, the Vikings?
• 1:23:57
  Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  I I'm I wouldn't be happy about it, but I wouldn't be too upset because it'd be a young
• 1:24:05
  guy that had a lot upside.
• 1:24:07
  So it's one of those win win for Minnesota if if the price is right.
• 1:24:11
  You know?
• 1:24:14
  Who's that?
• 1:24:15
  They are from the Colts to be the backup.
• 1:24:18
  Oh, Richardson?
• 1:24:19
  Yeah.
• 1:24:20
  Okay.
• 1:24:21
  Yeah.
• 1:24:25
  Well, like I said, I'm I'm not I'm
• 1:24:27
  not I'm against it if the price is right.
• 1:24:31
  Yeah.
• 1:24:32
  The point?
• 1:24:32
  It just doesn't fit.
• 1:24:34
  The inaccuracy issues, yeah, the guy can throw it a whole football field length, but he throws
• 1:24:38
  it a whole football field length when he's on the 50.
• 1:24:41
  Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  Falls into the fans.
• 1:24:43
  Like Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  No.
• 1:24:45
  A trade.
• 1:24:46
  He's out.
• 1:24:48
  He's out.
• 1:24:49
  Yeah.
• 1:24:49
  Trade value numbers.
• 1:24:51
  Okay.
• 1:24:52
  That said the numbers that he's saying was trade value numbers.
• 1:24:55
  So Oh.
• 1:24:56
  On those Yeah.
• 1:24:58
  Yeah.
• 1:24:58
  The old the old Jimmy Johnson what's his face is trade value.
• 1:25:05
  To that level, you would essentially have to come up with seven
• 1:25:08
  or
• 1:25:08
  800 points essentially to get up to that level.
• 1:25:12
  And you're talking about a solid player or some serious draft capital.
• 1:25:16
  So No.
• 1:25:17
  See, it's Yeah.
• 1:25:18
  What do we got on Dylan Tienenman?
• 1:25:20
  Cody, you got any notes on him?
• 1:25:22
  Just, you know, strong range and playmaking instincts.
• 1:25:26
  Ideal for late rotations and disguised shells.
• 1:25:30
  Sounds like a fee flow guy to me.
• 1:25:32
  Right?
• 1:25:33
  Well, I mean, the projection I got for the floors Flores roll projection, a deep safety
• 1:25:39
  and rotation specialist.
• 1:25:42
  So, I mean, it it it I would
• 1:25:45
  I'd sounded like a Harrison Smith replacement.
• 1:25:49
  Now, obviously, not going to I'm not projecting him to have a, you know, fifteen year career
• 1:25:54
  quarterbacking a defense and having that kind of impact, but, the the role was very much the
• 1:26:01
  same.
• 1:26:01
  Mhmm.
• 1:26:02
  Mhmm.
• 1:26:02
  But I'm I'm I think I'm excited for this next guy.
• 1:26:06
  Okay.
• 1:26:08
  You wanna jump right into it?
• 1:26:09
  Yeah.
• 1:26:10
  Let's go.
• 1:26:10
  Let's see if you got him.
• 1:26:11
  Next one is Emmanuel McNeil Warren, the safety out of Toledo.
• 1:26:15
  Yeah.
• 1:26:17
  Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo is one of the small school risers in this safety class,
• 1:26:23
  roughly six two, just over two hundred pounds, brings an NFL frame with real range on the back
• 1:26:28
  end.
• 1:26:29
  He's produced with solid tackle numbers and a couple of picks.
• 1:26:32
  What stands out is how fluid he moves for his size and how much ground he can cover from hash
• 1:26:38
  to sideline.
• 1:26:39
  He's comfortable playing deep, rolling down as a robber, or matching up on tight ends.
• 1:26:44
  McNeil Warren is the kind of prospect who could outplay this draft slot and become a steady
• 1:26:49
  starter.
• 1:26:50
  B, what do we got on his, big board?
• 1:26:53
  Dogg.
• 1:26:53
  Oh,
• 1:26:56
  hold on here.
• 1:26:57
  I just went to a different page.
• 1:26:59
  People are texting me.
• 1:27:01
  His big board spot.
• 1:27:03
  He's right after the tell them in there at forty four.
• 1:27:08
  So
• 1:27:09
  Okay.
• 1:27:09
  So in the range where the Vikings will be able to draft, so matching that, you know, these
• 1:27:15
  cornerbacks were higher up on the list.
• 1:27:17
  And to me, that's why I've said and it seems that the board is going to fall this way.
• 1:27:22
  I would see them if their guy is there that they like at those two positions, they're gonna
• 1:27:27
  trade those later round picks that they have doubled up, and they're gonna move up to get
• 1:27:31
  their guy at these two positions.
• 1:27:33
  If I have because of the way the board is falling and it and it probably will fall in
• 1:27:38
  this way, you have two players at this safety position that fit the beefalo profile.
• 1:27:43
  I I think you're gonna end up with two of the four or five players that we've talked about in
• 1:27:50
  this range of where we're picking.
• 1:27:53
  You're probably gonna end up with a couple of these names, and I think you go defense defense
• 1:27:57
  in the first two rounds.
• 1:27:58
  Yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Absolutely.
• 1:28:00
  I mean, his size and downhill physicality, you know, he's he's like he's got that hybrid,
• 1:28:08
  linebacker safety trait to him, strong tackler.
• 1:28:12
  You know, the projection I have for him is that box safety blitzer hybrid defender.
• 1:28:17
  That's that's what we
• 1:28:19
  With that length, he can make up for it if he if he's bailing out of the blitz and being able
• 1:28:23
  to get back and still make a play on the ball if they do try to take a shot?
• 1:28:28
  Because that's almost what you're baiting them into.
• 1:28:29
  And I think that's what Harrison was always really good at was the late bail.
• 1:28:34
  You come up in the box early, you show the blitz, and then you're able to fall back and to
• 1:28:40
  make that one handed, you know, tip.
• 1:28:42
  Even if it's just tipping it into the air for one of your other guys to make a play on it,
• 1:28:46
  you're able to make a play on the ball because the quarterback has already selected,
• 1:28:50
  especially a young quarterback, where they're going with it.
• 1:28:53
  Right?
• 1:28:53
  They see the safety come up.
• 1:28:55
  They're going, I'm going right at that hole.
• 1:28:56
  He bails at the last second.
• 1:28:58
  They don't see it because they're maybe trying to look it off, and they're throwing to a spot.
• 1:29:03
  And now you got a guy with a six foot two frame who's able to jump up and to make a play on
• 1:29:08
  that ball, whether he's intercepting it himself or just tipping it up for, you know, one of
• 1:29:13
  these kind of ball hawking, you know, linebacker or cornerbacks that are in this
• 1:29:17
  hybrid defense.
• 1:29:19
  I I think there's, there's some value here.
• 1:29:22
  Absolutely.
• 1:29:23
  I would be shocked if we didn't take advantage of this.
• 1:29:26
  If he falls to us, we it's a no brainer.
• 1:29:30
  Yeah.
• 1:29:30
  No.
• 1:29:30
  I I'm with you guys.
• 1:29:32
  I I think
• 1:29:33
  Steve is in agreement with us.
• 1:29:35
  Wow.
• 1:29:35
  So I'm terrified.
• 1:29:37
  That's why that's why, you know, going back to, you know, Bubba, your your comments earlier.
• 1:29:42
  Well, the Vikings first two picks cannot be reached.
• 1:29:45
  They have to be set.
• 1:29:48
  I mean, you can't, you know I mean, if if if the Vikings are serious about moving up to get
• 1:29:52
  Caleb downs, those guys are you know, these next two safeties are out of are out of out of
• 1:30:00
  questions because you're gonna waste a lot to move up to get killed out.
• 1:30:03
  So unless they're they're sold on it, I'd like to see them move towards one of these two guys
• 1:30:09
  that we just spoke of.
• 1:30:10
  It's Darth Vorskius now nice, and I appreciate being safe, brother.
• 1:30:14
  If you're gonna throw me over your shoulders and run me out of the jungle, there's nobody
• 1:30:18
  else I'd rather have do it, man.
• 1:30:20
  Yeah.
• 1:30:21
  Love you, man.
• 1:30:22
  Oh, even got a what up to Steve.
• 1:30:23
  Steve's talking some trash as usual, but it's all good.
• 1:30:27
  We let him hang out.
• 1:30:28
  But, yeah, definitely the Vikings, they they gotta hit it.
• 1:30:32
  They gotta hit whatever pick they got.
• 1:30:35
  They they have to hit, especially the furnace
• 1:30:37
  team fits, and they need to be as close to a sure thing as you can get.
• 1:30:41
  They gotta be b flow guys, and that's that's definitely my take on what these guy what we
• 1:30:47
  need to do with these positions.
• 1:30:49
  Let's kinda cruise through the last couple of these players that we got on the board here.
• 1:30:54
  The couple last ones that I have here, AJ Halsey, safety out of LSU.
• 1:31:00
  Yep.
• 1:31:01
  So a little profile on Halsey here.
• 1:31:03
  AJ Halsey from LSU is a pure playmaker at safety.
• 1:31:06
  Around five eleven, two hundred pounds.
• 1:31:08
  He's an instinctive defender who consistently finds his way to the football.
• 1:31:12
  He puts up around 70 tackles and multiple interceptions, and he shows a knack for reading
• 1:31:17
  quarterbacks and jumping routes.
• 1:31:19
  Halsey plays fast.
• 1:31:20
  He's aggressive coming downhill, and he brings real energy to the defense.
• 1:31:24
  His profile has a versatile safety who can give you ball skills on the back end and still be
• 1:31:30
  trusted as a run fit player.
• 1:31:32
  Bee, where you got him on the big board?
• 1:31:35
  Big board's got him at 74 overall.
• 1:31:39
  You're
• 1:31:39
  you're talking a a day three guy, you know, or He
• 1:31:42
  he definitely sounds like he he could fit what Minnesota does, especially with Harris and
• 1:31:47
  Smith, you know, getting you know, running up the middle and and trying to get, you know, the
• 1:31:51
  sack and stuff.
• 1:31:54
  Might he might find himself on a specials teams as a gunner, you know, for the first few years
• 1:32:00
  until he gets his shot.
• 1:32:02
  But definitely sound like a guy that once he gets his shot, you're not taking it away from
• 1:32:06
  him.
• 1:32:07
  So
• 1:32:07
  Yeah.
• 1:32:08
  Steve, great question here.
• 1:32:10
  Who's making the draft picks?
• 1:32:11
  To me, I think it's by committee.
• 1:32:13
  I I think it is really Bflow and and KOC going into this together and going what makes our
• 1:32:20
  team better right now.
• 1:32:22
  And I think they, and see, Norspiez, I I know that Rob Brzezinski is the, you know, de facto
• 1:32:29
  GM.
• 1:32:30
  It seems like he's a cap guy.
• 1:32:32
  I think he's gonna really be on the side of getting the team cap compliant, getting them
• 1:32:38
  into a position where they can sign these draft picks and add to the team in that way.
• 1:32:43
  I don't know how much he's gonna be really I mean, he's obviously gonna be present in the
• 1:32:48
  war room, but don't think you know, I think it's by committee.
• 1:32:53
  I don't think it's a yes, man.
• 1:32:55
  I don't I think KOC and Bflow, I think there's a lot of respect there.
• 1:33:00
  And I don't think this is KOC only's KOC's only decision.
• 1:33:05
  I think it's by committee.
• 1:33:06
  If if we were in the room, obviously, we would know better.
• 1:33:09
  But I think there's a respect there between KOC and Bflow of this of this sit down and to
• 1:33:15
  address what is best for this team as a whole.
• 1:33:18
  And I think what's best for this team is to grow the offense with a and we'll get into
• 1:33:23
  maybe some conversations between maybe picking a tight end over quarterback in round one or a
• 1:33:30
  tight end in in round two.
• 1:33:32
  We'll talk about that.
• 1:33:34
  I don't know if the value's there.
• 1:33:35
  And maybe be tight ends on the big board.
• 1:33:38
  Just kinda rattle off a few that are on there just so we can kinda get a look at where the
• 1:33:41
  big board is at.
• 1:33:43
  They got, like, Keenan Sohrad from Oakland or Oregon.
• 1:33:50
  Sorry.
• 1:33:50
  Overall ranked 32.
• 1:33:53
  And then after that, you got Max Claire from Ohio State at 41.
• 1:33:58
  So Good question, Steve.
• 1:34:00
  Good question.
• 1:34:01
  Guys would be yes.
• 1:34:03
  Steve, we're all wondering the same thing.
• 1:34:05
  North Pheas, both these guys are actually in Cannon Falls, Minnesota.
• 1:34:09
  So they're both both, like, practically neighbors.
• 1:34:11
  Cannon Falls ain't that big.
• 1:34:13
  Yep.
• 1:34:14
  Nope.
• 1:34:15
  No.
• 1:34:15
  We're, yeah, we're right in right in Cannon Falls off of 52.
• 1:34:19
  So
• 1:34:20
  Right.
• 1:34:20
  So you got the two tight ends that would be in that range being early day two picks that maybe
• 1:34:26
  so maybe you're talking instead of one of these safeties that we've hit on, you're talking
• 1:34:32
  about taking a tight end there.
• 1:34:33
  That all depends on how the board falls.
• 1:34:35
  I I think they're if they're not trading up in round one and packaging that that round two
• 1:34:40
  pick, you're probably sitting still.
• 1:34:43
  You don't have the draft capital to move up a whole lot of spots, and I don't see them
• 1:34:48
  trading up to take the tight end.
• 1:34:50
  I think it really becomes a conversation only if the guy is there, and they would have to be
• 1:34:55
  really, really high on this guy because I think you're gonna be able to find a serviceable to
• 1:35:00
  like, you can improve at tight end from what you had last year with a lot of guys that may
• 1:35:05
  be in free agency.
• 1:35:06
  Right?
• 1:35:06
  You got almost zero production from your tight end position last year.
• 1:35:10
  Yeah.
• 1:35:11
  And the thing is is, you know and and we've stated it over and over again.
• 1:35:15
  You just did.
• 1:35:16
  This board's gonna jump around all over the place.
• 1:35:18
  I mean, you know, so there might be people that are in the mid second day that moved up to in
• 1:35:28
  the first round, and we're gonna see people that we think are gonna be selling first round
• 1:35:32
  picks, like, kill them down that may drop, you know, to a second day pick.
• 1:35:36
  So, you know, there's a lot.
• 1:35:38
  But I I think I think that If we could get
• 1:35:40
  him to drop the 10 to be in range for a play to move up eight
• 1:35:43
  slots, like, hey.
• 1:35:44
  Hey.
• 1:35:45
  You never know.
• 1:35:46
  I mean, with social media, like, people can get it.
• 1:35:49
  Punches mama on camera to drop to the second round.
• 1:35:53
  Come on.
• 1:35:53
  But I but I think I
• 1:35:55
  I I think the picked all, like you said, Bubba, is gonna come from multiple.
• 1:36:00
  I think they're they're probably doing a lot of research like we are.
• 1:36:03
  You know, they're probably you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they're using chat p t t or,
• 1:36:08
  you know, the chat tool.
• 1:36:09
  Yeah.
• 1:36:09
  And just, you know, and and draw it up their own board.
• 1:36:12
  And then when it comes to their pick, they'll be like, okay.
• 1:36:14
  We got player a and player b.
• 1:36:16
  You know, what do we wanna do?
• 1:36:17
  And, honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if their first 20 picks are 90% defensive players right
• 1:36:27
  now.
• 1:36:27
  Well and I think what it comes down to, Southwest Minnesota, that puts you out in kinda
• 1:36:32
  my range, North Viez.
• 1:36:35
  I'm out here in Southeast South Dakota.
• 1:36:37
  So kinda play, and we're probably the closest to one another physically, although you may be
• 1:36:43
  a little closer to Cannon Falls yet than where I'm at down here.
• 1:36:46
  You said it's for Marshall?
• 1:36:49
  Yeah.
• 1:36:50
  Okay.
• 1:36:52
  You know, for me, they're looking at ranges, and I think that's what we're gonna focus on
• 1:36:56
  when we get closer to doing our mock drafts and getting our own war room going on is it's going
• 1:37:01
  to be ranges of players on that big board and in the team need and reach and different things
• 1:37:07
  like that.
• 1:37:07
  And I'm looking forward to really having those in-depth conversations.
• 1:37:10
  Today, what we're doing is just kinda looking at some profiles.
• 1:37:13
  What players in the top five of each position fit this team and to do those kind of things in
• 1:37:19
  there.
• 1:37:19
  So
• 1:37:20
  Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  Yeah.
• 1:37:24
  Yeah.
• 1:37:25
  No.
• 1:37:25
  For AJ, we're because we saw an AJ, you know, thick physical build.
• 1:37:31
  I this is what I got.
• 1:37:32
  Thick physical build, natural downhill presence, strong run fit, and blitz upside.
• 1:37:38
  His Flores roll protect projection.
• 1:37:41
  I got box safety, pressure safety, and a dime linebacker hybrid.
• 1:37:47
  And who's he talking about?
• 1:37:50
  AJ Halsey.
• 1:37:51
  Okay.
• 1:37:51
  Yep.
• 1:37:52
  So but I'm I'm I'm actually excited about this fifth guy.
• 1:37:57
  I don't know if you have it on your list, Bubba, but is he from Penn State?
• 1:38:02
  Nickel for no.
• 1:38:03
  I got a safety nickel from Miami.
• 1:38:06
  Keonte Scott is the last one on my board.
• 1:38:08
  But why don't you who's the player that you're talking about?
• 1:38:11
  Okay.
• 1:38:12
  So I'm gonna Big b, I'm gonna need your help on this one.
• 1:38:15
  I'm gonna butcher the first name.
• 1:38:16
  It's Zake Zakee, z a k e e, Wheatley from Penn State.
• 1:38:23
  Z Dude Probably Zach Zakee.
• 1:38:25
  You know?
• 1:38:26
  Probably Yeah.
• 1:38:26
  The power I would do.
• 1:38:28
  Yeah.
• 1:38:28
  Six foot three six foot three, two hundred pounds.
• 1:38:33
  I mean, he's got length and range, and that can you know, length plus range equals disguised
• 1:38:39
  weapon.
• 1:38:39
  Where'd you
• 1:38:40
  say he was from?
• 1:38:41
  Penn State.
• 1:38:42
  Penn State.
• 1:38:44
  Developmental upside, the Flores role projection that he's got would be a rotational
• 1:38:51
  deep safety and a matchup safety at six three.
• 1:38:55
  Oh, put him on any linebacker something.
• 1:38:58
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:38:59
  Like
• 1:38:59
  says.
• 1:39:00
  Zakim.
• 1:39:01
  Okay.
• 1:39:02
  Because and and, obviously, this one, I like, I don't know his, grade or, like, what he's on
• 1:39:07
  the big board, but this is probably, like, a fifth, sixth round dude that you develop.
• 1:39:14
  If he
• 1:39:14
  if he Yeah.
• 1:39:15
  He's he's overall 83 on the big board.
• 1:39:19
  He's the fifth on the position rank, but, yeah, he's definitely somebody that you know, Cody,
• 1:39:26
  like you said, just even talking about
• 1:39:27
  first through third rounds.
• 1:39:29
  All the guys that he's hyped about are freaking day four picks.
• 1:39:33
  Well, I mean, I just
• 1:39:34
  But even realism, you don't know, just gonna take value for the bikes to move up.
• 1:39:38
  I mean,
• 1:39:40
  though Well, I feel like there's a couple of players that we've talked about, maybe not the
• 1:39:44
  top player at the position, but a lot of these two, three, the second and third players on
• 1:39:48
  this top five list that I had put together were guys, that are gonna be in range for these
• 1:39:55
  Vikings picks.
• 1:39:56
  May will they maybe have to trade a six one of the six rounders to move up, possibly?
• 1:40:02
  But we need we need multiple swings at these positions of need.
• 1:40:06
  For me, I don't mind watching them take a swing early at cornerback and a swing late and a
• 1:40:11
  swing early at safety and a swing late.
• 1:40:13
  Like, you have to hit on these positions of need.
• 1:40:17
  Yeah.
• 1:40:17
  And you have to do it now.
• 1:40:19
  You don't need to pick a player.
• 1:40:20
  Oh, well, we already drafted a quarter.
• 1:40:22
  Who gives a shit?
• 1:40:23
  You you need one of them to hit.
• 1:40:25
  It might be the later round guy that ends up being the guy.
• 1:40:29
  Right?
• 1:40:29
  But you have to kinda have a a sure thing and a backup plan to your positions of need this
• 1:40:35
  year.
• 1:40:36
  But, hey, fellas.
• 1:40:38
  I'm gonna have to get going.
• 1:40:39
  We got a we got a defensive Zoom call.
• 1:40:42
  We gotta get right for this next game.
• 1:40:43
  Well, the double guy.
• 1:40:44
  Bye bye.
• 1:40:45
  Better pitch another shutout.
• 1:40:47
  Oh, you already know it.
• 1:40:48
  You know how we do it.
• 1:40:50
  Alright.
• 1:40:50
  Hey, fellas.
• 1:40:51
  Y'all have great night.
• 1:40:52
  Again, man.
• 1:40:53
  Can't wait to cover more.
• 1:40:55
  Absolutely.
• 1:40:56
  Bye.
• 1:40:57
  See you.
• 1:40:58
  Yeah.
• 1:40:58
  And and, honestly, I like to try to find the gems, but Vikings at the point it just, you
• 1:41:04
  know, just like a couple other teams, they're at the point where they have to hit.
• 1:41:07
  They can't they can't reach for the the the stretches early on in the draft.
• 1:41:12
  I mean, they they have to hit, you know, a nice triple or something off these guys.
• 1:41:19
  I mean, it doesn't have to be the long ball, but they they gotta hit a guy that's gonna be
• 1:41:23
  in the system for a while.
• 1:41:25
  Right.
• 1:41:25
  Well, let's cover, Kiante Scott here, before I
• 1:41:30
  don't even see it.
• 1:41:31
  I'm a bit bored.
• 1:41:33
  Crazy.
• 1:41:34
  Well, yeah.
• 1:41:34
  I mean, we're getting down to the to the top five, and he's a safety nickel here is what
• 1:41:38
  they had.
• 1:41:39
  So you're talking about guys that are they're sliding here.
• 1:41:42
  So
• 1:41:42
  Yeah.
• 1:41:43
  They got him they got him on the big board of
• 1:41:46
  the corner right now at thirty nine.
• 1:41:48
  So
• 1:41:48
  Okay.
• 1:41:49
  So Keonte Scott of Miami is a modern hybrid defensive back, part safety, part nickel, part
• 1:41:53
  matchup piece.
• 1:41:54
  He's long time in the slot, rotated deep, and even been used as a blitzer, putting up solid
• 1:41:59
  tackle production and a couple of interceptions.
• 1:42:02
  What you love is the versatility.
• 1:42:04
  He can cover shifty slots, hold up in zone, and still be effective near the line of scrimmage.
• 1:42:09
  In today's NFL, where you're defending spread looks and tight ends who move like wideouts,
• 1:42:13
  Scott gives a coordinator a ton of flexibility on the chalkboard.
• 1:42:16
  So once again, yeah, they have him as a corner.
• 1:42:18
  Number 39, he's in range.
• 1:42:20
  Don't be surprised.
• 1:42:21
  I know we had kinda have him as a safety on our talk tonight, but don't be surprised if this is
• 1:42:26
  a pick in that second round for the Vikings and somebody that they're going after.
• 1:42:31
  But but and that's
• 1:42:32
  the thing too.
• 1:42:33
  You know, he could play safety.
• 1:42:35
  He could play the nickel.
• 1:42:36
  He could play the corner.
• 1:42:37
  Heck.
• 1:42:37
  Oh, man.
• 1:42:37
  Sounds like a speed flow freaking dream, man.
• 1:42:40
  Yeah.
• 1:42:40
  You might even be able to slide him in that, you know, linebacker out out with certain teams
• 1:42:44
  and coverages and stuff.
• 1:42:46
  So I I always like the guys that could play two, three different positions.
• 1:42:50
  You know?
• 1:42:50
  So I'd be all all in on this guy, you know, later in the, you know, second day move up, you
• 1:42:56
  know.
• 1:42:56
  But right now, we named out 10 guys.
• 1:42:59
  One, two, maybe, might be out of the reach for the Vikings, but, you know, definitely eight of
• 1:43:06
  them are gonna be sitting there with with Minnesota picking and we might get two, three
• 1:43:13
  of them like you said.
• 1:43:14
  You know, unless they reach for Caleb Downs, I mean, I I think we're gonna come out with a
• 1:43:21
  good couple DBs here.
• 1:43:23
  It it feels like the people that we've talked about that six of these guys at least are in
• 1:43:29
  play for the Vikings.
• 1:43:30
  Right?
• 1:43:30
  Or maybe more.
• 1:43:32
  Right?
• 1:43:32
  And maybe eight of the 10, and Cody threw in a few others as well later round picks.
• 1:43:37
  I just had GPT to put me to tie give me the top five corner, top five safeties, give me a
• 1:43:42
  little profile on them, and let's
• 1:43:43
  I would I would say I mean, Dallas is probably your your stretch.
• 1:43:47
  I mean, yes, he's probably everybody's eyeing him and see where he's gonna go.
• 1:43:51
  And, of course, if he falls at 18, then you don't lose nothing, you're taking him.
• 1:43:56
  I mean, unless, like you said, unless something seriously comes out from it.
• 1:44:00
  But if he falls to you on your lap at 18, you might as well just think Santa Claus and, you
• 1:44:07
  know, say, yep.
• 1:44:08
  We we have
• 1:44:09
  That's not happened, man.
• 1:44:10
  Too many people that don't even need him would be picking him ahead of that place.
• 1:44:14
  It would be a massive trade up and a huge surprise if Caleb Downs ended up, you know,
• 1:44:19
  with the Vikings, but that's what we're here.
• 1:44:21
  We're here to talk about scenarios and what it may take for them to do.
• 1:44:25
  And, yeah, I'm not into I'm not into reaching and trading up for a guy that is that hybrid.
• 1:44:31
  If he falls to you and the other guys are gone, I think you're happy to take him, you know,
• 1:44:36
  speaking about the the Kiante Kiante Scott.
• 1:44:41
  I think if he kind of falls to us in that second round in that spot we're picking in,
• 1:44:48
  what I say, 45 or
• 1:44:50
  45.
• 1:44:51
  Right.
• 1:44:51
  I would rather see them I I wanna see them get a lockdown corner.
• 1:44:57
  I mean, to me, that's really that first pick that I wanna see them make or one of these
• 1:45:02
  safeties that are going to be a long term starter at that, you know, kinda strong safety
• 1:45:07
  role.
• 1:45:08
  So to me, that's the it's the you have your a and b's on both.
• 1:45:12
  And if you end up with your one b in either the corner or the safety in the first round, you
• 1:45:19
  have to take them.
• 1:45:20
  And that's my take on it.
• 1:45:21
  Like, you have to take one of those four players that we have in that range in that
• 1:45:26
  first round, and then the second round guy becomes one of these other players that we've
• 1:45:31
  talked about that are in that that secondary, right, that are in that range that match up
• 1:45:36
  with what we're doing.
• 1:45:38
  And
• 1:45:39
  Well and again, we're only talking two positions right now.
• 1:45:42
  There's still, you know,
• 1:45:44
  one these are the top two needs.
• 1:45:46
  Right.
• 1:45:47
  Well, yeah.
• 1:45:47
  Exactly.
• 1:45:48
  Needs to be put on this.
• 1:45:49
  You have to get them right.
• 1:45:50
  You have to fill them.
• 1:45:52
  I don't think that it's outside of these things.
• 1:45:56
  You know?
• 1:45:57
  And the running back talk running backs like, Jordan Mason is your starter, I think, and
• 1:46:03
  you're getting maybe a young guy in the third or fourth round to fill in and to hopefully
• 1:46:08
  give you some carries at that.
• 1:46:10
  I I think that's where they need to go.
• 1:46:13
  Mattelis and Ward guys still on this team.
• 1:46:16
  Right?
• 1:46:16
  I I feel you, Norsefias, that you're looking for guys that can go and do the job now.
• 1:46:23
  You're looking for role players in a specific position so you can move Mattelis and Ward back
• 1:46:29
  into their hybrid spots.
• 1:46:31
  Because asking Mattelis to be your all time free safety this year wasn't working.
• 1:46:36
  Right?
• 1:46:37
  It was pulling him out of what he did good.
• 1:46:39
  He was your hybrid guy to come in, be able to cover a tight end, but also be able to be
• 1:46:47
  someone that you can drop into coverage and maybe get in there and to come up with a lot of
• 1:46:52
  tackles.
• 1:46:53
  So Well Yeah.
• 1:46:54
  What I wanna do is
• 1:46:55
  have to get a true outside corner first or a true strong safety and hopefully both.
• 1:47:03
  I mean, the dream scenario is that you fill both of those needs with your first two picks.
• 1:47:07
  Yep.
• 1:47:08
  And then you're kind of the rest of the how the rest of the draft goes, who gives a shit?
• 1:47:12
  If you feel like you've got two starters on the defensive secondary out of the first and second
• 1:47:17
  rounds, you are very, very happy with how your draft went regardless of how the rest of the
• 1:47:23
  draft goes.
• 1:47:24
  Well and that's the
• 1:47:25
  thing too is and, you know, like you said, you get two, you know, starters in the first two
• 1:47:30
  rounds.
• 1:47:31
  You know, you still got that draft capital.
• 1:47:32
  There's a third guy sneaking around late that second round early, you know, second round
• 1:47:37
  early third, you may wanna move up and get that third, you know, stunt on the defense.
• 1:47:41
  I think the Vikings are gonna be focusing a lot on defense.
• 1:47:44
  You know, the one thing that hurts the Vikings right now is we have to bank on these draft
• 1:47:48
  picks.
• 1:47:49
  We can't be like, oh, we could draft this guy, but, yeah, we go out and get person a from the
• 1:47:54
  free agent mark because we got a cap value.
• 1:47:56
  Right now, we had no cap value.
• 1:47:57
  So anybody talking about free agents coming here, you know, show show me how and I'll be
• 1:48:03
  all for it.
• 1:48:04
  But right now, we're so far over the cap that we have to bake on these guys being our and and
• 1:48:10
  get some playing time in 02/2627.
• 1:48:13
  So Yeah.
• 1:48:14
  And I I know that center was a need on that list as well.
• 1:48:17
  I think they I think they're pretty confident that they maybe have something there or a
• 1:48:22
  veteran presence.
• 1:48:23
  They're gonna make room.
• 1:48:24
  There's deals to be made to get them under cap compliance.
• 1:48:27
  It was pretty easy to do, you know, when I watch Purple Daily go through and do their kind
• 1:48:33
  of big board and initial thing.
• 1:48:34
  It was relatively easy with a few cuts to get cap compliant and to have enough money to sign
• 1:48:40
  all of your draft picks.
• 1:48:42
  Right?
• 1:48:42
  So I I think that's gonna be very easy.
• 1:48:45
  Now I think the hard conversations are are you trying to restructure a, Hawkinson, deal?
• 1:48:53
  Are you trying to restructure an Aaron Jones?
• 1:48:56
  I think both of those guys are probably cooked as far as what it is, especially with Jones
• 1:49:00
  kinda suffering that ankle injury at the end of the year.
• 1:49:03
  You know, the the guy's 30, what, 31,
• 1:49:07
  32.
• 1:49:08
  Yeah.
• 1:49:09
  It's tough.
• 1:49:09
  I think I think
• 1:49:12
  my money would be Jones', you know, gone Hutchison.
• 1:49:18
  You know, as much as we sponsor his copy, TJ Hockinson's probably gonna be a cat casualty
• 1:49:25
  unless they can restructure and and get a lot of that money back.
• 1:49:30
  Addison, I I think we all agree that we'd be okay with him taking a step away.
• 1:49:37
  Yeah.
• 1:49:37
  Does Addison turn into another second round or third round pick?
• 1:49:41
  Right?
• 1:49:42
  Exactly.
• 1:49:42
  Now that we know that the charges got dropped, if you could get a second out of Jordan
• 1:49:48
  Addison, I think you're taking it all day.
• 1:49:50
  Oh, okay.
• 1:49:50
  I I think you are you are running to the table to
• 1:49:54
  make think a second or a third or or or maybe, you know, maybe I'm smoking a little bit of the
• 1:50:00
  cheese that Steve was smoking.
• 1:50:02
  But somebody at thirty, thirty one, thirty two that says, hey.
• 1:50:05
  We'll take Addison if you know, because we had nobody we wanna draft here at thirty one
• 1:50:09
  anyways.
• 1:50:10
  So, you know, maybe, you know but I I love this time of year.
• 1:50:15
  I I just you know, all this talk and the combines coming up here, what, couple weeks, I
• 1:50:21
  think.
• 1:50:22
  Yeah.
• 1:50:22
  No.
• 1:50:22
  The senior game.
• 1:50:23
  You know, that you know, and and honestly, I I'm one that I kinda hate the combine too at
• 1:50:28
  the same time because you're judging these guys without pads on.
• 1:50:32
  They're hitting your you know, can they shuffle this way, shuffle this way in the interview
• 1:50:36
  process?
• 1:50:36
  I mean, to me, we got all the fill bottom, but, I mean, this just hypes up more.
• 1:50:40
  It gets a lot of people talking.
• 1:50:42
  You know, Steve will probably still be talking up with Storm up until the Packers pick their
• 1:50:47
  kicker this year.
• 1:50:48
  So
• 1:50:49
  And right now, North Fiesta, we have three day two picks.
• 1:50:53
  So we have 49, 82, and 97, a one second and two thirds.
• 1:51:00
  And if we could if we could trade back possibly at 82 because that's the eighteenth and maybe
• 1:51:09
  get a couple of players that are in that range, maybe trading up one of these two you know, we
• 1:51:15
  have a fifth, a sixth, and two sevenths.
• 1:51:18
  I don't know what that would look like.
• 1:51:20
  I think if you can trade Addison for a second, I think you're I I think you were likely to get
• 1:51:26
  to four.
• 1:51:28
  I think we can get four day two picks.
• 1:51:31
  I don't think five or six is a possibility, but I I think Addison can net you.
• 1:51:38
  He's gonna get you a two.
• 1:51:40
  If you could squeeze somebody for a second and a late third or even a second and a fourth, I
• 1:51:47
  think that that would be massive.
• 1:51:49
  I mean, he was a first round talent.
• 1:51:51
  He still has the speed.
• 1:51:52
  You know, you're definitely trying to fleece a team.
• 1:51:55
  I think if you're asking for a second and a fourth of which I
• 1:51:58
  don't I don't think you're really trying to I think I don't think you're trying to fleece a
• 1:52:01
  team.
• 1:52:02
  I think you're just trying to find that team that is like, hey, you know, we've done good
• 1:52:07
  with rehabilitating these players or giving this player a second chance.
• 1:52:11
  Or we
• 1:52:11
  just don't give a shit.
• 1:52:13
  Yeah.
• 1:52:13
  Yeah.
• 1:52:14
  You know, I mean, I I think we brought it up.
• 1:52:17
  The Raiders are probably the perfect place for this guy to land or Dallas.
• 1:52:21
  But, you know, Addison, I mean, yeah, I don't wanna see him off the team, but, you know, we
• 1:52:26
  talked about before.
• 1:52:27
  You gotta get rid of the headaches.
• 1:52:29
  Yeah.
• 1:52:29
  Well, yeah, mean, headache mind, yes, we want him off the team.
• 1:52:33
  But talent wise, no, we don't want him off the team.
• 1:52:36
  But we have
• 1:52:37
  to get him to hang.
• 1:52:38
  Only really wanna see him gone if you're able to make a deal with Speedy.
• 1:52:41
  Like, if you're able to get in right now, and maybe those are talks that are ongoing right
• 1:52:45
  now where you are talking and they're like, hey, buddy.
• 1:52:47
  Like, we got the chemistry.
• 1:52:49
  We got things going.
• 1:52:50
  We know you had a great year.
• 1:52:52
  You know?
• 1:52:53
  Like, we really wanna keep you here.
• 1:52:54
  We want you to be our you know, we want you to be wide receiver two or you know what I mean?
• 1:52:59
  Two, three slotted in there because I don't we just throw the cap space to go and get another
• 1:53:04
  a wide receiver two right now.
• 1:53:06
  And to me, Jordan Anderson hasn't played like a number two for a couple of years.
• 1:53:10
  No.
• 1:53:10
  So I I don't think he's that guy.
• 1:53:13
  And with the off the field issues, I just don't think he's worth the headache.
• 1:53:16
  I don't think you still have
• 1:53:18
  for one trade with him to get another, you know, wide receiver two in the building.
• 1:53:23
  So you trade him for another day two pick.
• 1:53:25
  Maybe there's a wide receiver in the second round that you have your eye on that we can
• 1:53:29
  talk about.
• 1:53:30
  I know I've said that, yeah, we're not going to draft, you know, a wide receiver out here.
• 1:53:35
  But if you see
• 1:53:35
  Well, think, again, too, we also we also have the Rookie drafts last year in Dalton as a wide
• 1:53:40
  receiver, you know, that they Other the boss.
• 1:53:42
  Speedy guy, though.
• 1:53:43
  Right?
• 1:53:43
  Dalton's a a a smaller guy.
• 1:53:45
  I I feel like you have a lot of that you know, a lot of these guys that are in that, which I
• 1:53:50
  see as more of a wide receiver three Yep.
• 1:53:53
  Role.
• 1:53:53
  Like, you
• 1:53:54
  know, you beat.
• 1:53:56
  You know, we got the other at
• 1:53:57
  the quarterback position.
• 1:53:58
  Right?
• 1:53:58
  Be like, all the quarterbacks are over six foot tall.
• 1:54:01
  So No.
• 1:54:02
  You can't put a guy on the outside that is matching up against someone who's two inches
• 1:54:07
  taller than he
• 1:54:08
  is and can
• 1:54:09
  run just fast.
• 1:54:10
  Yep.
• 1:54:11
  No.
• 1:54:11
  That's that's the whole thing.
• 1:54:12
  I mean, we we all know that right now, JJ is your number one.
• 1:54:18
  He ain't going nowhere.
• 1:54:19
  No matter how many people can throw out No
• 1:54:22
  matter how many times Steve is trying
• 1:54:24
  to trade him.
• 1:54:25
  It's not happening, dude.
• 1:54:26
  Yeah.
• 1:54:26
  No.
• 1:54:27
  I mean I mean, right now, to me, there's only a handful of players that are untouchable right
• 1:54:32
  now on the Vikings.
• 1:54:34
  You're you're anybody calls for any of them, you're listening, you know, you're hanging up
• 1:54:39
  the phone if it's a JJ or if it's the kicker or, you know, even if a car jam might
• 1:54:44
  even hang up on him.
• 1:54:45
  I love that on this team, the kicker is a hard no.
• 1:54:48
  We're like,
• 1:54:48
  we Exactly.
• 1:54:50
  It's not happening.
• 1:54:50
  Exactly.
• 1:54:51
  But
• 1:54:51
  It's not happening.
• 1:54:52
  Yeah.
• 1:54:53
  Bee, since you got the big board and everything pulled up, who are the wide receivers that
• 1:54:57
  we'll kinda be talking about next?
• 1:54:59
  Give me the top five wide receivers on
• 1:55:01
  the big board.
• 1:55:02
  Be we're
• 1:55:04
  talk about next week.
• 1:55:05
  Yeah.
• 1:55:05
  So on the big board, we got Arizona State's wide receiver, Jordan Tyson.
• 1:55:10
  He's the first overall on the wide receiver side, but ninth overall on the big board.
• 1:55:17
  You got Ohio State's, Cardell, Tate, 63 oh, wait.
• 1:55:25
  Let's go back.
• 1:55:25
  So, yeah, Tyson's 62, you know, Tate's 63195 out of Ohio State.
• 1:55:31
  He's ranked number eleventh overall, second as a receiver.
• 1:55:35
  Yep.
• 1:55:36
  Mikey Lemon out of USC, 511195.
• 1:55:42
  So again, now you're thinking, you know, receiver number three, return guy.
• 1:55:47
  Fifteenth ranked overall, third on the on the wide receiver side.
• 1:55:51
  Number four, Dunsall Boston from Washington, six four, two zero five.
• 1:56:00
  Overall rank on the big board's twenty fourth.
• 1:56:03
  Position wise, he's ranked fourth.
• 1:56:05
  Definitely like the size on that.
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  I can't wait to see here the recap on him.
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  And then number five is Zachariah Branch, five ten, one eighty out of Georgia, thirty first
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  overall ranked, and then fifth out of the position.
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  So those are your top five receivers as of today.
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  Yeah.
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  And, I mean, the only one that I feel like is really in play there is the one was it from
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  what did you say?
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  Boston, BC?
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  The
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  sixth game?
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  Oh, from Washington.
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  Yeah.
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  Washington.
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  That's that's all my Boston.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, let me just pull up his stats here.
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  So last year, had 11 touchdowns, 881 yards, 62 receptions.
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  He's only a junior, so you're looking at what?
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  Twenty, twenty one, twenty, nineteen, 20?
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  But so far get
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  a little bit bigger.
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  I mean, to me, that's like an AJ Brown kinda model that you're hoping he can grow into.
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  Yeah.
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  So mean,
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  the last two last two seasons, you know, last year, 62 receptions, eight eighty one.
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  The year before that, 63 receptions, 834 yards, 11 touchdowns, nine touchdowns in 2024.
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  So definitely a guy that, you know, hasn't played much in college.
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  Out there in Washington, wasn't it?
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  Wasn't he the quarterback last year?
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  Yeah.
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  I think so.
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  You could be right on that one.
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  So, you know but definitely a guy that could put ball on, you know, averages, you know, 13
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  to 14 yards per reception.
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  So play around that Vikings.
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  I think that maybe becomes a a tough conversation because of the value of the wide
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  receiver picks.
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  I would prefer that they get the cornerback because I think it's more of a need.
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  But I'm, yeah, I'm guessing those are gonna be where KOC and b flow are butting heads and
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  going back and forth.
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  It's a big bodied receiver or the shutdown corner.
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  And if both those guys are on the board at that time, you know, it'd be interesting to see what
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  they do.
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  I I think we've already mentioned the names of who's going to be the, Vikings first round pick
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  in our show tonight, whether it's at the safety, the cornerback, or possibly that wide
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  receiver.
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  I I don't don't sleep on that.
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  Don't sleep on someone like that being in that position.
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  Wow.
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  See them probably wait until the second round possibly.
• 1:58:31
  Get someone that's a little more developmental because you have a Speedy, and and you don't
• 1:58:36
  need there.
• 1:58:36
  You you need someone that can be serviceable out on that that wide receiver two side.
• 1:58:40
  The the only the only way I see the Vikings take this guy in the first round is, like you
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  said, their top defensive guy the defensive backs are gone.
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  Yeah.
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  All the way.
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  Right?
• 1:58:50
  And then
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  they and then they move yeah.
• 1:58:53
  And then they kinda move down into the mid twenties, get maybe another second day pick or
• 1:58:59
  something, you know, flip flop first, you know, and they move down to where they're like, hey.
• 1:59:05
  We could we could sacrifice we could drop a few picks, get another pick, and and take this
• 1:59:10
  receiver, pair them up with Jena.
• 1:59:12
  Yeah.
• 1:59:13
  And for Norsvius, maybe that's how they come up with a couple more, you know, day two picks in
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  the second and third, trading back a couple of picks to say, hey, man.
• 1:59:23
  Our top guys aren't.
• 1:59:24
  And that's that's some of the things that people don't think about with these drafts and
• 1:59:27
  the mock drafts and everything that you're doing.
• 1:59:30
  You don't have to stay.
• 1:59:31
  And if the guys that you really want and you're looking at how do we improve our team and and,
• 1:59:35
  you know, it could be this player, this player, and then getting more picks could be that third
• 1:59:41
  option.
• 1:59:42
  Right?
• 1:59:42
  You know, to go, hey.
• 1:59:43
  We don't even care about who we draft in those next five guys.
• 1:59:47
  Right?
• 1:59:47
  We're willing to move back five spots, and another team is willing to give us a a second
• 1:59:53
  and a third to move up from the bottom and from the thirties up to that spot.
• 1:59:58
  The talks become interesting at that point.
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  So Yeah.
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  You guys you gotta think the teams that are drafting, you know, 20 to 30 or 25 to 30, you
• 2:00:07
  know, they're too solid, but they also gotta look for the future too and be like, hey.
• 2:00:11
  You know, our guys are getting older.
• 2:00:12
  So maybe we do wanna sacrifice and move up a little bit where
• 2:00:15
  Well, are players that have gone to the playoffs now are getting more expensive.
• 2:00:20
  Right?
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  And I
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  think that's something that a lot of people miss on as well.
• 2:00:23
  And then that could be something too as much as you don't trade within the division.
• 2:00:27
  You know, maybe that's something the bikes bears talk about and flip flopping picks and we
• 2:00:32
  move down and, you know, they get their guy.
• 2:00:34
  I mean, they're not getting down like Kevin wants, but, you know, drafting
• 2:00:41
  The Rams may be a trade partner in there because of KOC's relationship and those doors
• 2:00:45
  being open now.
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  So who knows, man?
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  Yeah.
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  You might get a little bit of a haul out of that team.
• 2:00:50
  Now granted they might be late second and third round picks, but picks are picks.
• 2:00:54
  Flip flop a first and pick up a two eight.
• 2:00:56
  And then that's the thing is too.
• 2:00:58
  Now you now you not be
• 2:00:59
  five, maybe six if you trade Addison, and it's playing right into Norsvius' scenario.
• 2:01:04
  And that's the whole
• 2:01:05
  thing too is Addison might fit with the niners, you know, with the way they like to run these
• 2:01:11
  gadget plays and stuff that are like that.
• 2:01:13
  Maybe that's something he fits into.
• 2:01:15
  I mean, these these follows I mean, I would hate to see how many calls they take a day.
• 2:01:19
  I mean, I work at a call center and I take, know, quite a few calls a day, but I mean,
• 2:01:23
  these guys probably are taking, god, 50 by the time they wake up until probably lunchtime and
• 2:01:31
  then maybe another 50 or so, you know, at dinner time.
• 2:01:35
  I mean, yeah, they you know, it'd fun to talk with some of these guys that sit in these draft
• 2:01:40
  meetings and just, you know, hear what what goes on.
• 2:01:44
  Well, me, it sounds like we're gonna get our chance, buddy, because things are playing out
• 2:01:49
  very, very well for all of us, man.
• 2:01:52
  Yeah.
• 2:01:53
  Guys, I gotta piss like a racehorse, man.
• 2:01:55
  I gotta get a hell out of here.
• 2:01:56
  I had a great time talking ball tonight, talking with everybody, celebrating a big dub
• 2:02:01
  from the Wyoming cavalry with coach Cody.
• 2:02:04
  We got some new graphics.
• 2:02:06
  I don't know if you guys have been checking these out, but we got some we got some new
• 2:02:10
  stuff.
• 2:02:10
  I like the other one you sent me.
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  I I like the one with the
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  Yeah.
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  We'll go through them all, dawg.
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  I don't even care.
• 2:02:17
  Well, you gotta you gotta, you know, go take care of a little bit of your own business.
• 2:02:21
  But
• 2:02:22
  Well, we got this one with the ships.
• 2:02:24
  Did you like this one?
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  And I like that one
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  With the guy here.
• 2:02:28
  Did you like this one?
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  Yeah.
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  That's the one
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  I like.
• 2:02:30
  That's the one I like.
• 2:02:31
  And I kinda I kinda wish that was because
• 2:02:34
  it kinda looks like you.
• 2:02:35
  Like, if you let your beard go and you could grow hair, that could
• 2:02:39
  be you.
• 2:02:40
  No.
• 2:02:41
  I definitely wanna I kinda wish that was kind of the Vikings logo instead of just a horn.
• 2:02:46
  You know.
• 2:02:47
  I mean, that would kinda be a sweet face to put on the side of the helmet, you know.
• 2:02:51
  And, you know, maybe we got we got connections, somebody that could draw that up on a painting
• 2:02:56
  or something.
• 2:02:57
  I don't know.
• 2:02:58
  I mean, you know, but that that would be a killer.
• 2:03:02
  Where were you guys tuning in before you tuned in tonight, Norris Viasen six shooter?
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  Yeah.
• 2:03:10
  Hey.
• 2:03:11
  Thank you, Norris.
• 2:03:11
  I I literally just had a I had Higgs Field, which is an AI software I use.
• 2:03:16
  I was like, hey.
• 2:03:17
  Take my the VU, our original one.
• 2:03:19
  I was just like, rethink these and and threw it out there at it and and had it spit out four
• 2:03:24
  different things.
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  And I was like, damn.
• 2:03:25
  I like all four of those.
• 2:03:27
  Yeah.
• 2:03:27
  No.
• 2:03:27
  I definitely like this one.
• 2:03:28
  I I just if if I could generate this on a Madden, this would be my Vikings logo right
• 2:03:33
  here.
• 2:03:35
  Nice.
• 2:03:35
  Well, we hope that you guys okay.
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  Nice.
• 2:03:39
  Well, you know what?
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  We appreciate you guys tuning in with us.
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  We respect your takes on ball and
• 2:03:44
  Oh, yeah.
• 2:03:45
  We have a good time, man, building this community out, talking ball, you know, keeping,
• 2:03:51
  you know and tonight was just a, I know Steve didn't get it, what we were trying to do.
• 2:03:56
  But tonight was just kinda profiling some of the players that positions a need for for the
• 2:04:01
  Vikings kinda starting with the DBs because we see that as somewhere that they're going to be
• 2:04:05
  heavy in the draft and really analyzing.
• 2:04:07
  So trying to look at it as if we were the front office profiling players and checking out what
• 2:04:14
  time we've been.
• 2:04:15
  So
• 2:04:15
  Yeah.
• 2:04:16
  I
• 2:04:17
  mean, we definitely got a lot of time to break down because the first night of the draft is
• 2:04:22
  April 23.
• 2:04:24
  Man, be here before we know it.
• 2:04:26
  Yeah.
• 2:04:26
  So yep.
• 2:04:28
  Exactly.
• 2:04:29
  Awesome, man.
• 2:04:30
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• 2:04:42
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• 2:04:44
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