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Can The Eagles Sustain Their Success This Season? (PST Episode 626) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world, twelve
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Speaker 1: years strong. We got a great show coming your way
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Speaker 1: this week. My gosh, I wish we were recording the
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Speaker 1: past thirty five minutes. Actually probably not the best idea
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Speaker 1: given the subject matter we were talking about. It could
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Speaker 1: have been its own show and we would have blown up.
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Speaker 1: I think we would have actually blown up. The podcast,
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Speaker 1: would have blown up.
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Speaker 2: Our lives would have blown up. It would have been
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Speaker 2: smart to broadcast that.
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Speaker 1: So he said, I looked up. I'm like, my god,
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Speaker 1: we've been talking for this long before doing the record button.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, good time. I'm Jeff Warren here with
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Speaker 1: my buddy, Eric Leonard. Eric, buddy, how you doing. I
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Speaker 1: know your I know your son was down at the
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Speaker 1: Phillies game tonight watching zeus Lozardo pitching.
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Speaker 2: And he was texting me the whole time and during
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Speaker 2: the game, and it was just really fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: He's twelve and it hasn't quite been introduced to the
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Speaker 2: just the dol drums and blues of being a Philiolphia
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Speaker 2: sports fan. Yeah, and he's text me like Harper's home
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Speaker 2: run was a monster. Sure, we're castianos.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And then and then he texted me we're down six
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Speaker 2: to five, and I happen, yeah, And I text them
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Speaker 2: back and like, welcome to the club, dude. This is
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Speaker 2: how it works. Awesome hitting, and all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: the pitching melts down, and you know, and you don't
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Speaker 2: know what the hell happen and you're down a run
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Speaker 2: and it's just life is a life is a Philadelphia fan.
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Speaker 2: And I told you before the show. I'm like, when
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Speaker 2: I was twelve, I remember watching the Fog Bowl of
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Speaker 2: my dad Eagles Eagles bear Is nineteen eighty eight and
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and I remember turning around with tears in
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Speaker 2: my eyes to him, going, I can't see the field.
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Speaker 2: How are they playing? This isn't fair. My Dad's being like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that's how it is. So ye, my god.
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Speaker 1: I have never seen a meltdown on the mound like
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Speaker 1: Jesus Lozardo had in the fifth inning. Holy shit, I
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Speaker 1: have never. I can't remember ever seeing too what where
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Speaker 1: the pitching is fantastic up until that point five nothing
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Speaker 1: and then you walk two guys when bases are loaded
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Speaker 1: and then give up a grand slam. I don't think
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Speaker 1: I've that. I can't remember any anytime seeing anything like that.
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Speaker 2: He had a no hitter going, I know, incredible, and
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Speaker 2: I thought about it. There's a reason, you know, they
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Speaker 2: were able to sign Hajesuslizarda for nothing. You know, I
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Speaker 2: know he's injury prone, but like this is probably kind
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Speaker 2: of who he is, and this is you know, he's
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Speaker 2: in his areas in the fours and they the Phillies
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Speaker 2: have signed this guy for decades, and especially me as
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Speaker 2: a fan, I've seen this before. So Vinnie, welcome to
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Speaker 2: the club. I'm so sorry, but you're here for life.
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Speaker 1: You are. Yeah, yeah, we got a lot more Phillies
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Speaker 1: talk coming your way. First, we're going to get into
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Speaker 1: some Philly sports history. Haven't done that over the past
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Speaker 1: few episodes here, and then we are going to be
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Speaker 1: getting into more Phillies talk. Like I said, they made
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Speaker 1: a move to acquire a bullpen arm and David Robertson
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Speaker 1: he's coming back to the team. We're also going to
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Speaker 1: talk about whether or not they should make another bullpen
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Speaker 1: move before the July for thirty first trade deadline. Then
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Speaker 1: we got a new top three list. You know, No,
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Speaker 1: Eric and I love doing top three lists. We haven't
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Speaker 1: done one in a while. This top three list is
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Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting. Athletes who played in Philadelphia for
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Speaker 1: four seasons or less but had a huge, huge impact
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Speaker 1: on their team. And then from there we got a
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Speaker 1: bunch of NFL and Eagles talk. We've got eggcrats from
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles on SI's coming to join us for a
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Speaker 1: discussion about how this Eagles team is looking heading into
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Speaker 1: camp here and this upcoming season. So it's a great,
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Speaker 1: great show. Let's start off with some Philly sports history.
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Speaker 1: I've got five different dates that I'm gonna throw out.
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Speaker 1: They all deal with the Philadelphia Phillies here. So the
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Speaker 1: first one, we're gonna go back to nineteen oh two, July.
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Speaker 2: Twenty first, my favorite team.
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Speaker 1: That's our favorite, Yes, July twenty first, nineteen oh too.
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Speaker 1: Left handed pitcher Doc White becomes the first Phillies pitcher
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Speaker 1: to record four strikeouts in an inning, bring a ten
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Speaker 1: to one loss to Brooklyn. Four strikeouts. Okay, I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: When I was doing some research, I was like, Wow,
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Speaker 1: what don't I get right now in this in my
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Speaker 1: brain at this particular point in time. But moving on,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna move. Ten years after that, July twentieth, nineteen twelve,
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Speaker 1: Sherry Maggie of the Philadelphia Phillies tied in a Major
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Speaker 1: League Baseball record by stealing home twice in a single game.
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Speaker 1: They beat the chicke They beat the Chicago Cubs fourteen
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Speaker 1: to two. Quite the rare feat in baseball at that point.
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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna really skip ahead to nineteen ninety seven.
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Speaker 1: July twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, after seventeen years with
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Speaker 1: the organization, catcher Darren Dalton was traded to the Florida
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Speaker 1: Marlins for outfielder Billy McMillan. And then after that few
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Speaker 1: years after that, July twenty six, two thousand, the Phillies
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Speaker 1: traded Kurt Shilling to the Arizona Diamondbacks. And then we
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Speaker 1: have July twenty fifth, twenty fifteen. That's where Cole Handles
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Speaker 1: threw a no hitter his final start as a Philadelphia Philly.
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Speaker 1: What a freaking game that was. I remember that one,
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Speaker 1: But that is this week in Philly sports history. Eric,
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Speaker 1: and anything stand out to you, aside from from the
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Speaker 1: four strikeouts in an inning, which I don't get.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to tell the fewer or the the
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Speaker 2: viewers and listeners. Jeff doesn't go over these with me
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Speaker 2: before the show, so these are like fresh. Yeah, a
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Speaker 2: couple thoughts. Doc is Doc one of the longest standing
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Speaker 2: nicknames in base in American history, maybe in American history maybe two.
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Speaker 1: That's a really good point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've nineteen oh two Doc Gooden, Like there's other docs. Yeah, doctors,
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Speaker 2: like they're just one of those nicknames. Is just kind
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Speaker 2: of stuck throughout the years, and we really don't have
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Speaker 2: names like we used to anymore. What was the guys
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Speaker 2: named Sherry Magni Cherry Maggie Maggie like Sherry s h
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Speaker 2: g r r Y Maggie. He was a man, Yes,
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Speaker 2: crazy name. And then poor Dutch, you know, I mean
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Speaker 2: not poor Dutch. He went on to Did he win
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Speaker 2: the World Series ninety seven with the Marlins. I think
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Speaker 2: he did, did, yeah, because I think he was part
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Speaker 2: of that team. Yeah he was, Yes, yeah, he's I
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Speaker 2: think it was like the halftime catcher for them. He
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Speaker 2: played half the games. Yeah, Glad Dutch got to win
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Speaker 2: a ring the cole Hamils no hitter totally remember, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and then they traded his ass like right after that. Yes,
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Speaker 2: but the fourth one. Can you read off the names
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Speaker 2: that the Phillies received back for the Kirk Shilling trade,
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Speaker 2: because it's a stellar a stellar name cadre of names
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Speaker 2: that that didn't help us out whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me see if I can bring
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Speaker 1: this up really quick rate here, because Kurt Shilling.
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Speaker 2: Was Omar Dall is part of that.
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Speaker 1: Omar Dahl, Y Nelson Figueroa, Travis Lee and Vincente.
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Speaker 2: Padilla. The flotilla was actually a nice pick up, but
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Speaker 2: the rest of it was absolute dog shit. Yes, so
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Speaker 2: to trade away one of the best pictures of all time,
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Speaker 2: I regard, disregarding his politics and in his bullshit later life,
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Speaker 2: but like an excellent player, multi ring winner, and that's
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Speaker 2: what they got back.
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Speaker 1: That's what they got. That's that's Omar Dahl.
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Speaker 2: There's there's there's a whole category of Omar like like,
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Speaker 2: there's so many players that Phillies traded for in the
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Speaker 2: in the like the landscape of Omar Omar Doll. That like,
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Speaker 2: it's why they suck for like ten fucking years. Omar
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Speaker 2: Dall was horrible. I was at those games man like
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Speaker 2: he sucked ass. Even Travis Lee, well, Travis Leeves was
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Speaker 2: with the next big left handed hitter the first basement
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Speaker 2: and like he was like von Hayes, remember that the trade,
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Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah and did not work out. Yes, great
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Speaker 2: list of Phillies sports history right there. But let's now
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Speaker 2: move along to actually talking about this current Philadelphia Phillies team.
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Speaker 2: Just this past week, the news broke Phillies made a
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Speaker 2: move and they acquired actually, I guess you would say
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Speaker 2: quote reacquired bullpen arm David Robertson. And interestingly enough, here, Eric,
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Speaker 2: they didn't have to trade any assets away or anything
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Speaker 2: like that to make this move. They did have to
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Speaker 2: lure him away from his family, from his children and
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Speaker 2: his wife because he wasn't playing on any major League
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Speaker 2: baseball team this season at all. So it was it
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Speaker 2: must have been lucrative enough for him to say, you
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Speaker 2: know what, I need to still continue to provide for
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Speaker 2: my family. I'm gonna do this. I'm going to sacrifice,
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Speaker 2: I am going to I am going to really just
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Speaker 2: bite the bullet here, David Robertson come back to the
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Speaker 2: Phillies here, Eric. Okay, so we had an honest conversation
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Speaker 2: about David Roberson's for the show, and I'm always struck
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Speaker 2: by these guys that quote retire at like forty forty one, right,
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Speaker 2: and they still have young kids at home. They got
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Speaker 2: the wife, they got the three or four kids at home,
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Speaker 2: and like wife on the road's amazing, Baseball is amazing.
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Speaker 2: What a life, right, especially as a like a setup
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Speaker 2: like if you're not if you're not starting or closing, right,
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Speaker 2: a setup man for twenty years of your career. But
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Speaker 2: my dad has always said that is the ultimate job
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Speaker 2: in sports. Yes, like that is the greatest job because
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Speaker 2: like or a backup quarterback maybe because there's no pressure. Really,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna get signed somewhere, especially if you're left hander,
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Speaker 2: it's even easier. And like he must have been home
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Speaker 2: for six months sitting in the man cave, heard the
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Speaker 2: three kids screaming upstairs, was like, oh my god, the
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Speaker 2: Phillies call. I was waiting for this call. Thank God,
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Speaker 2: Like I can't handle.
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Speaker 1: We took your guys so long exactly.
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Speaker 2: My wife just told me to clean it and clear
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Speaker 2: the dishwasher out. I'm worth a hundred million. I'm coming back,
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Speaker 2: like do I and getting getting to him and his
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Speaker 2: abilities and his stats, like he was actually pretty damn
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Speaker 2: good last year he played for the Rangers. He was
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Speaker 2: pitching like forty games. I looked at his stats. Yep,
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Speaker 2: he might be able to help them. I'm not expecting much.
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Speaker 2: I hope there's other moves we made, which we'll talk
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Speaker 2: about further later.
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Speaker 1: Really quick. I mean with this contract, you know this,
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Speaker 1: this really bothers me about people in sports anymore these days,
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Speaker 1: because it's it's sixteen million that they signed him for.
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Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't People are like, well, it's way
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Speaker 1: too much for a guy who's forty years I couldn't
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Speaker 1: care less what they pay. If they wanted to pay
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Speaker 1: him sixty million dollars to be on the field for
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Speaker 1: three months, I don't give a shit. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: It's not my money. I want to see some sort
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Speaker 1: of productivity coming to this bullpen. Do I think David
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Speaker 1: Robertson is going to be an upgrade in terms of
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Speaker 1: what we're what we have now, and what we're seeing now.
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Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, like I mean,
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Speaker 1: when Jose Alvarado got that suspension, it got everything out
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Speaker 1: of whack within this bullpen, and and as a result,
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Speaker 1: they need to put a band aid on this because
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Speaker 1: it's just way too up and down all the time,
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Speaker 1: and I think David Robertson has a great opportunity to
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Speaker 1: help stabilize things. I don't care if they pay him
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Speaker 1: sixteen million. I don't care if they pay him thirty
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Speaker 1: million for the rest of this year. I really don't.
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Speaker 1: It drives me crazy when people people are like that,
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Speaker 1: it's not your money, who cares.
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Speaker 2: No, It's always funny to me when fans care about
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Speaker 2: the price of stuff when there's no cap basically right,
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Speaker 2: Like there's no cap in baseball essentially, and like and
12:42
Speaker 2: there's no cap in football, kind of like it. I
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Speaker 2: think it goes up every like thirty million dollars is
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Speaker 2: no cap. Yeah. Now, when when when a hockey team
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Speaker 2: or a basketball team signs a guy too much money,
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Speaker 2: it's like, fuck, that was stupid, because yes, it's gonna
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Speaker 2: mess with the future and signing this guy. But like
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Speaker 2: signing a forty year old guy who had a really
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Speaker 2: good season last year as a history of the team,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna be able to perform. Me, he's not your
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Speaker 2: clothes or anyway, he's not a starter. Right, sixteen million
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Speaker 2: is are drop in the bucket, and by the way,
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Speaker 2: the team's worth one hundred thousand billion dollars, right, what
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Speaker 2: the hell do you care? Sixteen million is like pocket
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Speaker 2: change to this team, So like it's a it's not
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Speaker 2: as overly impressive move. It doesn't really move the needle
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Speaker 2: too much for me. But if he can give you
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Speaker 2: a couple of good innings, like throughout the rest of
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Speaker 2: the what was it July twenty thirty, so you go
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Speaker 2: like what two months left? Right? Got the postseason coming up,
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Speaker 2: and Alvarado can't be there anyway, so like, why not
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Speaker 2: bring a left hand and Arman maybe get you some ounts.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully it doesn't like screw up too much and give
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Speaker 2: it too many runs, can't hurt It's it's in one
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Speaker 2: of those like no lose situations exactly.
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Speaker 1: I just want him to stabilize things a little bit too,
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Speaker 1: Like he doesn't have to be he doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: be the greatest arm common out of the bullpen, you
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Speaker 1: know this season, I don't. I just want him to
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Speaker 1: stabilize things a little bit here.
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Speaker 2: And he's not going to be because guess what his
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Speaker 2: first year in the league was two thousand and eight, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: with the Yankees, Like, yes, I just had a kid
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Speaker 2: like that kid's going to college. In a few weeks,
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Speaker 2: he was onto nine Yankees team to beat the Phillies
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Speaker 2: in the World Series. That's how long this motherfucker's been around. Like,
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Speaker 2: I'm not expecting I'm not expecting witchcraft here from this guy.
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to give some stabilized innings, like you said,
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Speaker 2: and maybe not have Taylan Walker's been awesome this year, honestly,
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Speaker 2: Maybe give him some relief here and there where he
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to like go three four innings. Maybe David
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Speaker 2: can take like two winnings off his back.
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Speaker 1: Yes, maybe you can do that. That's the hope for sure.
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Speaker 1: And as we're looking at this trade deadline coming up
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Speaker 1: again July thirty first, that's the deadline, might this team
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Speaker 1: be looking to bolster the outfield too, you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: maybe get another bat in the lineup. Maybe they do
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Speaker 1: make another bullpen move. I mean I can see that.
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Speaker 1: I can see this team wanting to possibly bring in
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Speaker 1: an arm with the bullpen that's gonna help to get
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Speaker 1: lefties out, you know, a bullpen arm that's gonna end
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Speaker 1: up keeping the ball in the yard and actually throwing
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Speaker 1: some strikeouts as well. I mean, we could also look
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Speaker 1: at the fact that the we know from reports the
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Speaker 1: Phillies have been showing interest in Stephen Kwan, so that
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Speaker 1: could potentially be on the back burner right now, and
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Speaker 1: the Phillies may actually do that given the fact that
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Speaker 1: Max Kepler has just been absolutely horrendous. Phillies left fielders
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Speaker 1: this season are hitting one ninety the splits one ninety
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Speaker 1: three h two and three twenty nine. Most of that
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Speaker 1: is falling on Max Kepler, who is just absolutely shitting
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Speaker 1: the bed this season.
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Speaker 2: Two.
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Speaker 1: We talked a few weeks ago, Eric, why not bring
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Speaker 1: up outfield prospect justin Crawford. You know, I think Dave
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Speaker 1: Dombrowski is hinting that that may potentially happen at some
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Speaker 1: point here this season. Brandon Marsh, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: Jesus God, I think I think Crawford could theoretically push
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Speaker 1: Brandon Marsh out of center field even if the Phillies
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Speaker 1: were to acquire a left fielder. So there, I think
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Speaker 1: this team is going to make some moves here. Might
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Speaker 1: we see some prospects traded? I think that's a possibility
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Speaker 1: for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of lost my patience with Max Crappler
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Speaker 2: and uh wet Hair Marsh. Yeah, it's just wet hair, Mush. Honestly,
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Speaker 2: I told you a story before the show. I was
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Speaker 2: watching the game the other night and Marsh came up
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Speaker 2: with soaking white hair, the whole gimmick going on. He
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Speaker 2: struck out. It was a horrible strike. It was just
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Speaker 2: like stuck kind of three pitches. They were bad, and
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Speaker 2: I'm like and I yelled the TV this.
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Speaker 1: God, and my wife was like.
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Speaker 2: I'm like the TV alone. But I just I can't like.
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Speaker 2: I just don't like guys that can't, especially guys before
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Speaker 2: the season that were complaining like I need more playing
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Speaker 2: times I can make more money. It's like, no, you suck,
16:58
Speaker 2: that's why you're not making that much money. Yeah, Marsh
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Speaker 2: and Kepler have been extremely disappointing. And there's there's a
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Speaker 2: couple of deals on I've heard rumors about that are
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Speaker 2: like kind of realistic and I'm hoping they actually proceed
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Speaker 2: or or pursue The Guardian's trade for Stephen Kwan and
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Speaker 2: Emmanuel Klace, who you get your closer and you get
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Speaker 2: your you get your outfielder to kind of like kind
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Speaker 2: of solidify things out there because Cassianis is doing all
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Speaker 2: the heavy lifting to this point, and as we know,
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Speaker 2: he's extremely up and down streaky, Yes, right, yep, Like
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Speaker 2: Kwan's a good player, he'd be really he'd really help
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Speaker 2: even out that that dichotomy in the outfield. If they
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Speaker 2: want to go big time, Mason Miller's out there for
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Speaker 2: the A's. There's no way the A's want to keep him.
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Speaker 2: Like why, it's the point you're you're going nowhere, You're
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Speaker 2: playing a fucking Sacramento or where the hell they're playing, right,
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Speaker 2: they're playing a minor league field to joke and all
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Speaker 2: to talk about like, well, we can't get rid of
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Speaker 2: these prospects, Well, why can't we? How many times have
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Speaker 2: we not traded prospects that went nowhere? Right? Yeah? Like
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Speaker 2: I'm with you and I want to keep Crawford, Paynter, Yes,
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Speaker 2: in Painter of course, Aiden Miller, Mick Abel, right, super
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Speaker 2: young guys we saw, we've seen able come up and play.
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Speaker 2: It's been disappointed, it's been. It's been. There's been some
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Speaker 2: great highlights, but it's also been very disappointing. Why not
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Speaker 2: throw those two in a trade with the Guardians to
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Speaker 2: get those two solid players for a team that's ready
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Speaker 2: to win now and in the National League. It's like
18:32
Speaker 2: it's up in the air, man, Like, have you watched
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers play? They're starting pitching? Is shit, it's so
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Speaker 2: bad that Otani's back pitching now. I know, how dare
18:41
Speaker 2: they allow the best player in baseball? You know what,
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Speaker 2: we need you to starting pitching. We don't care if
18:45
Speaker 2: you blow your elbow out right, We'll sacrifice the forty
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Speaker 2: to fifty home runs a year so you can pitch,
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Speaker 2: give us six innings every seven days like that. That's
18:54
Speaker 2: that's crazy to me that I just think the National
18:57
Speaker 2: League is so wide open for the Phillies to like
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Speaker 2: take it, regardless what happened tonight. But like, I just
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Speaker 2: think there's there's some really good like there's some really
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Speaker 2: mediocre teams out there, including the Guardians that like probably
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Speaker 2: want to sell. And if you've got to get rid
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Speaker 2: of like your third and fourth best prospect, just do it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Like we've seen this before. It's it never hits one
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Speaker 2: hundred percent. Yeah, And is Aid Miller going to be
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Speaker 2: a superstar? Probably not. Can you get Kwan and Clayson
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Speaker 2: here using him and maybe able to do that? They
19:28
Speaker 2: do it.
19:29
Speaker 1: This team is continuing to hit a wall you know,
19:32
Speaker 1: you think, Okay, they got the talent, they've got the bats,
19:35
Speaker 1: they've got the pitching, and then they just hit a
19:38
Speaker 1: wall every now and again. We need some fresh faces
19:41
Speaker 1: on this team in the bullpen and in the batter's box.
19:45
Speaker 1: We just need that at this point, regardless of how
19:48
Speaker 1: towns of people are. And Max Kaplari's really not that talented.
19:51
Speaker 1: Like there were so many of us that held out
19:53
Speaker 1: hope because Kyle Schwarber wasn't going to be in left
19:55
Speaker 1: field anymore. We didn't want to see him in left
19:58
Speaker 1: field anymore. And he's been just absolutely fantastic at the DH.
20:02
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, we got to get these some
20:05
Speaker 1: of these trades done here and that would put this
20:09
Speaker 1: team in a really good position heading into October, just
20:13
Speaker 1: at the end of the season.
20:13
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, I talked a lot about the Guardian's trade.
20:17
Speaker 2: I think making the move for Mason Miller. If you've
20:20
Speaker 2: got to give up one of those prospects and not
20:23
Speaker 2: Crawford or a painter, days are going to ask for him,
20:26
Speaker 2: but like you're not going to get them. Yeah, like
20:28
Speaker 2: they're they're smart enough to realize that, I think eventually,
20:31
Speaker 2: but like maybe throw some money into the deal to
20:34
Speaker 2: get a guy like that on this team when the
20:38
Speaker 2: starting pitching. You saw Sanchez last night, he was just
20:41
Speaker 2: a monster. Like they have two. They have two legit
20:46
Speaker 2: righty lefty aces on the squad now, like Sanchez is
20:50
Speaker 2: a legit say young contender. Yeah, and you have those two.
20:54
Speaker 2: And if you had a lights out Mason Miller type
20:56
Speaker 2: of closer and you had to give up Miller and
20:59
Speaker 2: Able for him, that's a no brainer name with this
21:01
Speaker 2: team because the window is the window is like two years, right, yeah,
21:05
Speaker 2: and he's twenty six. He could be part of that
21:08
Speaker 2: next wave of like whatever you want to do with
21:10
Speaker 2: Crawford and Painter in house. I think did not want
21:14
Speaker 2: to give up prospects for a guy like that because
21:17
Speaker 2: he's so young and so talented. Doesn't make any sense
21:19
Speaker 2: to me. And as a fan, I'd be like pissed
21:22
Speaker 2: if I heard they didn't offer that and the A's
21:25
Speaker 2: asked for it. Yeah, I'd be like that, you don't care,
21:28
Speaker 2: you don't want to win this year.
21:29
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I completely agree with where you're coming from,
21:35
Speaker 1: completely agree with it. And you know, I was just
21:37
Speaker 1: at an Iron Pigs game this past week with our
21:39
Speaker 1: good friend of the show Josh Schuster and his son
21:42
Speaker 1: and daughter Josh Shuster from Philadelphia. Soccernow dot com does
21:46
Speaker 1: some of the Eagles postgame shows with us as well.
21:49
Speaker 1: And you're looking at some of the talent within the
21:52
Speaker 1: farm system and it's it's a little bit slim pickings
21:56
Speaker 1: at this point in here.
21:57
Speaker 2: It's a little light.
21:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little light. While you hate to I
22:01
Speaker 1: don't say hate while it's sometimes you know, you got
22:04
Speaker 1: to bite the bullet in terms of some of these
22:05
Speaker 1: prospects because of what you see in the in the miners.
22:09
Speaker 1: At this point, it's still it needs to be done
22:12
Speaker 1: with the window that you're talking about here. Well, And
22:15
Speaker 1: like my argument is always like, okay, name me a
22:18
Speaker 1: Phillies prospect we traded away in the past fifteen twenty years.
22:25
Speaker 1: That made a difference for any team, right they got
22:27
Speaker 1: traded to, Like look at the right Halliday trade, right
22:30
Speaker 1: the game of the Drebeck kid, Travis Darnaud. I'm sure
22:33
Speaker 1: there was somebody I can't think of it now, didn't happen,
22:38
Speaker 1: Like nothing happened for those guys and the guys they kept.
22:40
Speaker 1: They're like, we can't possibly get rid of these guys,
22:43
Speaker 1: they did nothing either, right, Like, not a lot of
22:46
Speaker 1: guys from the Phillies farm system have come up and
22:49
Speaker 1: like done much except for the current team right now
22:51
Speaker 1: with Scott and.
22:54
Speaker 2: Sorry the kid from the kN third basel that bump.
22:58
Speaker 2: Like they have some solid players, but like and Nola
23:01
Speaker 2: and everything, but like there's just this long hit. The
23:04
Speaker 2: trade dayline always drives me crazy in baseball, like we
23:07
Speaker 2: can't possibly get rid of our sixth prospect. Yeah, it's
23:11
Speaker 2: like this, there's eighty percent chances he's not even gonna
23:13
Speaker 2: play in the major leagues, right, Like.
23:16
Speaker 1: Let's win now, yes, absolutely, all right, folks, Well, if
23:20
Speaker 1: you're you know, we'd love to give your get your thoughts,
23:23
Speaker 1: whether you're watching on YouTube comments below, let us know
23:27
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about the Phillies here before the trade deadline.
23:30
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23:32
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23:34
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23:37
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24:02
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24:09
Speaker 1: quick break here, and when we get back, we got
24:11
Speaker 1: our top three list, the new top three list, then
24:14
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some NFL in Eagles talk. Stick
24:17
Speaker 1: with us, all right, we are back and we are
24:21
Speaker 1: now going to be getting into our new top three list.
24:25
Speaker 1: It is the top three athletes who played in Philadelphia
24:30
Speaker 1: for four seasons or less but had such a huge
24:33
Speaker 1: impact on the teams that they were playing for. So
24:39
Speaker 1: we are going to here on YouTube. Switch up our
24:42
Speaker 1: cameras a little bit here because we've got some graphics
24:45
Speaker 1: going on. Eric, let's start off with number three for you.
24:50
Speaker 1: Do you have any honorable man? I just I don't
24:51
Speaker 1: have any honorable mentions. I just have three guys, three
24:54
Speaker 1: players here, and yes they are all men. Three players
24:58
Speaker 1: here to start us off with, do you have any
25:01
Speaker 1: honorable mentions or anything?
25:02
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a complete idiot. I just realized you said
25:06
Speaker 2: athletes who played for four seasons or less. I came
25:09
Speaker 2: up with four players, yeah, because I thought four skipped
25:13
Speaker 2: the top three parts. I'll make one, make one of
25:19
Speaker 2: them the honorable mention. I'm one of those smart guys
25:21
Speaker 2: that misses this obvious thing in front of you sometimes.
25:28
Speaker 2: Can you flash up anybody.
25:30
Speaker 1: I say, sure, absolutely.
25:32
Speaker 2: So I'll make this one honorable mention. Peter Forsburg, Forsburg,
25:38
Speaker 2: here we go. So what a great picture too. So
25:43
Speaker 2: we we traded him away in the Elin Dross trade. Yeah,
25:47
Speaker 2: And was it ninety yes, yeah, and I was. I
25:53
Speaker 2: was super into the Flyers then, and that was our
25:55
Speaker 2: freshman year of college and super into the Flyers because
25:59
Speaker 2: they were so good it and Lindross was coming to
26:02
Speaker 2: town and it was like, wow, this is really exciting.
26:04
Speaker 1: It was ninety two actually, sorry, I.
26:08
Speaker 2: Think it was ninety three and then ninety four. Yeah,
26:10
Speaker 2: and then they they drafted him ninety two. Yeah, you're right,
26:13
Speaker 2: and they trade him away and it was like, well,
26:16
Speaker 2: we got Lynn Ross and we got these other guys.
26:18
Speaker 2: Djar Dan and uh number ten was his name? Helped
26:22
Speaker 2: me out jesus, Yeah, I know. Sorry, I'm the Flyers.
26:26
Speaker 2: Fans will kill me. God, I actually cared about the
26:28
Speaker 2: Flyers back then. People know you're did telling you so.
26:32
Speaker 2: And then this guy named Forstburgh got traded, where I
26:35
Speaker 2: was like, whatever, you know, and then he went on
26:36
Speaker 2: to win with the with the Avalanche, Yes, and then
26:42
Speaker 2: he came back in like two thousand and five season.
26:44
Speaker 2: I think it was after the lockout right, yes, And
26:49
Speaker 2: I was actually living in Philly then super into the Flyers.
26:52
Speaker 2: I went to a ton of Flyers games when I
26:54
Speaker 2: lived down there and I lived in an old city,
26:57
Speaker 2: and he was the one one year he played with
27:00
Speaker 2: the Flyers and he was like thirty four, thirty five
27:03
Speaker 2: years old, He's near the end of his career. And
27:06
Speaker 2: I went to a bunch of those games, and I
27:08
Speaker 2: was like, what a fucking mistake it was trading this guy? Why? God,
27:11
Speaker 2: he's so talented, amazing, Like he was thirty five and
27:15
Speaker 2: I think he I think he came in eighth place
27:17
Speaker 2: in like the MVP voting. I think he had like
27:19
Speaker 2: forty goals and he was one season with the Flyers.
27:23
Speaker 2: But I was like, what a kind of cool story
27:26
Speaker 2: for him to come and six' ten wip talk at
27:28
Speaker 2: all the time back, Then like what a cool story
27:30
Speaker 2: for him to come back and kind of like have
27:32
Speaker 2: one good season with the team that drafted. Him, yeah
27:34
Speaker 2: BUT i have been a good, Season like he was
27:36
Speaker 2: one of the central focus points of that. Team he
27:40
Speaker 2: was really damn. Good and then that was it for.
27:42
Speaker 2: Him he kind of like think he played the next
27:44
Speaker 2: year and that was he never played.
27:46
Speaker 1: Again and in two thousand and six he actually became
27:50
Speaker 1: the fifteenth captain In flyer's. History like, that that's how
27:54
Speaker 1: important he was to the, team.
27:56
Speaker 2: Like one of those one of those utmost professional players
27:59
Speaker 2: like everyone respects in the. League and and just it was, like,
28:02
Speaker 2: MAN i WISH i could have seen what his career
28:05
Speaker 2: would have been with The. Flyers v just stayed not
28:07
Speaker 2: been part of the lind. Drastraet so, yeah that's.
28:10
Speaker 1: It's a great pick for a guy who played with
28:13
Speaker 1: this team for four seasons or. Less, absolutely, well let's
28:16
Speaker 1: move on to your number three. Here who's that going to?
28:19
Speaker 2: Be H number three Is Jim.
28:22
Speaker 1: Tomey oh, yeah, BABY.
28:25
Speaker 2: I, honestly LIKE i was kind of. SHOCKED i went
28:27
Speaker 2: back to looking the. Stats hit hit six hundred and
28:29
Speaker 2: twelve home runs career, wise AND i WAS i live.
28:35
Speaker 2: AGAIN i lived In philly when he joined The, phillies
28:38
Speaker 2: and it was the biggest fucking story, Easily like The
28:43
Speaker 2: phillies were in no man's, land The sixers were, Hot
28:45
Speaker 2: eagles were really, Good flyers are pretty damn good, too
28:49
Speaker 2: and The phillies going. Nowhere it's two thousand and. Three
28:51
Speaker 2: it was the last year THE, vet big celebration year for,
28:55
Speaker 2: that and but it was basically like people getting drunk
28:57
Speaker 2: at THE, vet going yeah this this piss, holes get.
29:00
Speaker 2: Right but they weren't very, good you. Know And tomy
29:03
Speaker 2: came in and made them a legit, team like they
29:07
Speaker 2: were actually a legitimate baseball, team and just hit his,
29:11
Speaker 2: presence his home run, hitting this professionalism made them an
29:14
Speaker 2: actual baseball team that you actually had to care about
29:16
Speaker 2: in the. City AND i can't believe he was only
29:20
Speaker 2: there for three. YEARS i had no clue because he
29:23
Speaker 2: was worshiped across the, City Like i'm telling, you there
29:26
Speaker 2: were if if it wasn't An eagles Or sixers, jersey
29:29
Speaker 2: it was A Jim tomy t shirt in the, city like,
29:33
Speaker 2: downtown like everywhere it Was Jim. Tomy it was the
29:35
Speaker 2: only Base it was only AFFILLYATE i when we gave
29:37
Speaker 2: a shit about three, yea four and even. Five, honestly
29:40
Speaker 2: Like rollins Wasn't rollins, yet like the young guys just
29:43
Speaker 2: weren't quite there. Yet but Like Jim tony honestly kind
29:48
Speaker 2: of changed the whole cycle of The phillies leading to
29:52
Speaker 2: two thousand and. Eight in my, OPINION i really do
29:55
Speaker 2: think like he made the, Field he made The phillies
29:58
Speaker 2: a legit baseball organization just by coming and like AND
30:04
Speaker 2: i can't believe he's only there for three. Years knocking it.
30:07
Speaker 1: Is look WILL i will never. Forge it was a
30:09
Speaker 1: day after my birthday on it Was june twenty Or june,
30:13
Speaker 1: fourteenth two thousand and, four he hit his four hundredth
30:17
Speaker 1: career home, run and he ended that two thousand and
30:21
Speaker 1: four season batting two seventy, four forty two home runs
30:26
Speaker 1: and one hundred and five RBIs and one hundred and
30:29
Speaker 1: forty three. Games just an, incredible incredible. Feat like you,
30:34
Speaker 1: said he provided legitimacy to what The Philadelphia phillies were
30:40
Speaker 1: back then because of that home run hitting and again
30:43
Speaker 1: that two seventy four average in two thousand and. Four
30:46
Speaker 1: that really just he. Was he was a. God he
30:49
Speaker 1: was A philly sports athlete type of god back, then
30:54
Speaker 1: and rightfully, so because he got the team to that next,
30:57
Speaker 1: level you know where then of just a few years
31:00
Speaker 1: later they would be winning The World. Series you know
31:03
Speaker 1: it just, UH i think it's a fantastic number. Three
31:05
Speaker 1: fantastic well he.
31:07
Speaker 2: Was he was a bridge to the Next, yes like
31:10
Speaker 2: the of the. TEAM i remember IN o, three like oh,
31:15
Speaker 2: THREE i went to like probably fifteen to twenty home,
31:17
Speaker 2: games you, know BECAUSE i just lived down there AND
31:19
Speaker 2: i had a partial season home, tickets home tickets for uh,
31:23
Speaker 2: four but oh, Three, like it's the, Vet it's not
31:28
Speaker 2: the short, porch it is at the bank right. Now it.
31:31
Speaker 2: Was it just we've all been to The. Vet it's
31:34
Speaker 2: just a, monstrous Disastrous and that motherfucker hit like over
31:40
Speaker 2: forty home runs and that thing just crushed the. Ball
31:44
Speaker 2: AND i actually got people excited for the. TEAM i
31:46
Speaker 2: JUST i have so much appreciation For jim tellmey absolutely.
31:49
Speaker 2: Absolutely all, Right, well moving along, here my number three
31:53
Speaker 2: is going to be the one the Only Tarall. Owens
31:57
Speaker 2: Tarrell owens was. ONLY i only played for the Two
32:01
Speaker 2: eagles for two seasons in two thousand and, four and
32:04
Speaker 2: two thousand and five one of the most dominant wide
32:07
Speaker 2: receivers In eagles. History, yes and he did play in
32:11
Speaker 2: The Super bowl with a broken legs still nearly won
32:14
Speaker 2: it For. Philadelphia but, REALLY i.
32:16
Speaker 1: Mean he was he was such a huge factor in
32:19
Speaker 1: The eagles reaching That Super bowl for the first time
32:23
Speaker 1: since nineteen. Eighty you, know there was only so much
32:27
Speaker 1: that The eagles wide receiver corps eric was going to
32:29
Speaker 1: be able to do With Torrent smalls back then And Todd.
32:33
Speaker 1: Pinkston ACTUALLY i don't, KNOW i turn, YEAH i, Know,
32:37
Speaker 1: JAMES i don't know If Rren smalls was on the
32:38
Speaker 1: team in two thousand and four what he.
32:41
Speaker 2: Came, In but he was on the previous teams where you,
32:44
Speaker 2: like who the fuck is? MAN i had can throw
32:46
Speaker 2: to my, god look.
32:47
Speaker 1: At it in two thousand and four going to The Super.
32:50
Speaker 1: Bowl seventy seven, receptions twelve hundred, yards fourteen touchdowns and
32:55
Speaker 1: he did that in just fourteen. Games tied a franchise
32:59
Speaker 1: single season rec at the. Time of course that that's
33:01
Speaker 1: since been. Broken but and that's two thousand and.
33:03
Speaker 2: Four this is not Like Tyreek hill right twenty twenty.
33:07
Speaker 2: Three you, know kind of stats like this is before
33:11
Speaker 2: it was a passing, league but it's still kind of
33:12
Speaker 2: a running back league. Too, yes and HE i can
33:17
Speaker 2: speak to. THIS i lived. DOWNTOWN i walked around into
33:20
Speaker 2: T jersey all the. Time, yes he's, yes, yes and
33:25
Speaker 2: he AND i have One eagles jersey. Left i've thrown
33:28
Speaker 2: out all my owns Because i'm an awful jersey. Buyer
33:31
Speaker 2: as we've talked about in the, SHOW i have one jersey.
33:34
Speaker 2: Left it's too because he absolutely Changed Philadelphia eagles fandom
33:40
Speaker 2: across the, city you, know four and, like my, god
33:45
Speaker 2: he changed the entire. Team, yeah like when if like
33:49
Speaker 2: if we for younger, listeners like you watch today's football
33:53
Speaker 2: and like just the explosiveness and the and the. Receiving
33:57
Speaker 2: The eagles Had James thrash and Like Todd pinkston the
34:00
Speaker 2: previous year and lost in The Nancy Title. Game it
34:03
Speaker 2: was a fucking. Joke like he was so. Bad it
34:05
Speaker 2: was so, bad and you're just, like we're never gonna
34:07
Speaker 2: win The Nancy Title game and go to The Super.
34:08
Speaker 2: Bowl this guy came in and his first preseason game
34:13
Speaker 2: against The, ravens he went for it and he was
34:16
Speaker 2: doing the. Wave and his first game against The giants.
34:19
Speaker 2: Home the first home, game he had three touchdowns and
34:22
Speaker 2: he was just like like it was just, like, wow
34:24
Speaker 2: this guy changed the entire organization in like a couple of.
34:28
Speaker 1: Weeks in a couple of, weeks that's. IT i remember,
34:31
Speaker 1: thinking AM i ever going to see The eagles in
34:33
Speaker 1: The Super? Bowl it was back, Then AM i ever
34:35
Speaker 1: going to see? It because the last MEMORY i had was,
34:37
Speaker 1: SERIOUSLY i was three years. Old remember in my living,
34:40
Speaker 1: room my dad is watching The. Eagles the only THING
34:43
Speaker 1: i remembered was my dad, saying, oh Stupid jaworski right
34:47
Speaker 1: after he threw that last reception The.
34:49
Speaker 2: Raiders.
34:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that was the last THING i remembered in
34:53
Speaker 1: terms of An Eagle Super. Bowl and Then Tarall owens
34:56
Speaker 1: being that guy that in the chemistry that he And
35:00
Speaker 1: donovan McNabb had to you know for one, Year, yeah
35:03
Speaker 1: for one. Year, yes that chemistry was just. Incredible, uh their.
35:08
Speaker 1: Duo they really became one of the most feared wide
35:11
Speaker 1: receiver quarterback tandems in THE nfl during that. Time so
35:15
Speaker 1: that's that's my number. Three, well and.
35:18
Speaker 2: Just just to kind of beat up to you a little,
35:19
Speaker 2: bit like not the smartest business, man, like, Right so
35:26
Speaker 2: he was. In he was he was with The fortynins for, years,
35:29
Speaker 2: right and never had advertisements out. There not a well
35:32
Speaker 2: like guy came To, philly was beloved across the city
35:37
Speaker 2: and was actually getting like national. Advertisements yes he had
35:41
Speaker 2: he Had Right GUARD i think and some other. Stuff
35:44
Speaker 2: and he was in the super commercials with the McNab
35:45
Speaker 2: at one. Point. Yeah, Yeah like and when the next
35:49
Speaker 2: year when he's doing when he's doing bicep curl or
35:53
Speaker 2: whatever things in his in his front yard and his
35:56
Speaker 2: driving his driveway and his career. UP i remember, thinking, like,
36:00
Speaker 2: dude you made. It what are you doing like football?
36:03
Speaker 2: Contracts who? Cares like You're you're actually on the advertisement
36:08
Speaker 2: contract like, yeah, train like that's where you make the real,
36:12
Speaker 2: money and you just want to take them, aside go be,
36:15
Speaker 2: smarter like this is your avenue to actually make money
36:18
Speaker 2: and be, famous and that's what you want to. Do
36:20
Speaker 2: and he totally fucked it. Up but, man that one,
36:21
Speaker 2: year my, god, unreal. Unreal all, right, man who's your number?
36:26
Speaker 2: Two at this point here with our, List i'm gonna
36:30
Speaker 2: Go Keith Jackson eagle tied end for The eagles. Again
36:35
Speaker 2: one another one of those guys looked up his stats
36:37
Speaker 2: and like only three years of The. Eagles, yeah but
36:41
Speaker 2: like but like, anything like when, anything any music you,
36:45
Speaker 2: hear movies you watch when you're like, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen
36:50
Speaker 2: they become your favorite music probably for. Life, yeah favorite
36:53
Speaker 2: movies probably for. Life The eagles from like eighty eight
36:56
Speaker 2: to like ninety were like that was doubt or ninety,
36:59
Speaker 2: one and like that was my like that's that's in
37:02
Speaker 2: my heart to this. Day love those teams, yea and
37:07
Speaker 2: and he he was the tight end and probably my
37:10
Speaker 2: Favorite eagle besides Uh randall and maybe realize, like, oh
37:16
Speaker 2: the tight end is like. Cool the tight end is
37:19
Speaker 2: like it's not a it's not a running Or i'm
37:21
Speaker 2: going to block, you and like right he. Was he
37:23
Speaker 2: made it cool for us In Eagles nation This, yeah
37:26
Speaker 2: he was because they didn't have great receivers, either, Right
37:29
Speaker 2: Chris carter And Mike, quick But Mike cook was aging
37:32
Speaker 2: and the running backs weren't. Great The Keith jackson was
37:35
Speaker 2: kind of in the middle of those, guys and he
37:37
Speaker 2: was really fucking. Talented he's one of those like early
37:40
Speaker 2: extremely athletic tight. ENDS i think he like kind of
37:43
Speaker 2: broke the mold a little bit in the late eighties
37:46
Speaker 2: as a tight. End you look at his stats AND
37:48
Speaker 2: i looked at, him it's, like, oh we had seven
37:52
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards receiving and like six. Touchdowns but,
37:55
Speaker 2: LIKE i think you have to put that like in
37:57
Speaker 2: in in the you have to kind of look at
37:59
Speaker 2: that like like old movies in that. Era, yeah, yeah
38:02
Speaker 2: like like, okay nineteen eighty, one this movie made thirty million. Dollars,
38:05
Speaker 2: well today be like one hundred and fifty million, dollars,
38:07
Speaker 2: Right SO i think like in nineteen eighty eight tight end,
38:10
Speaker 2: terms seven hundred and fifty yards receiving is like twelve
38:14
Speaker 2: to fifty and seven touchdowns is like twelve. Touchdowns so
38:18
Speaker 2: like he was an elite tight, end and it makes
38:20
Speaker 2: sense he made all that he. Made he made The Pro,
38:22
Speaker 2: bowl and he was like one of the top tight
38:25
Speaker 2: ends in the. League it was only three seasons and he.
38:28
Speaker 1: Was rookie of The. Year he Was rookie of The,
38:30
Speaker 1: Year rookie.
38:31
Speaker 2: Of The, Year AND i THINK i think he helped
38:33
Speaker 2: change the tight end position across THE nfl over, time
38:36
Speaker 2: like not, immediately but LIKE i think now you like
38:39
Speaker 2: you have these super athletic tight ends that scored tons
38:41
Speaker 2: of touchdowns to get. RESET i think he was one
38:43
Speaker 2: of the first ones.
38:44
Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty. Eight when you have a tight
38:48
Speaker 1: end with eighty one, receptions eight hundred and sixty nine
38:51
Speaker 1: yards and six, touchdowns that is, incredible especially coming in
38:56
Speaker 1: during your rookie. SEASON i mean he Was, yes he
38:59
Speaker 1: was a first round so election by The eagles in
39:01
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty eight, draft but, still like you're, right
39:06
Speaker 1: he really helped to change the change the trajectory of
39:11
Speaker 1: what the tight end position now is. Today he helped
39:15
Speaker 1: navigate that and really create that foundation for you, know
39:19
Speaker 1: you know, what you can actually be a tight end
39:22
Speaker 1: who blocks but also catches the ball and also catches
39:25
Speaker 1: touchdowns from your. Quarterbacks IT'S i love.
39:29
Speaker 2: This not just, catch not just catch, passes but like
39:32
Speaker 2: choot guys, out, yeah and like, run like, run not
39:35
Speaker 2: a huge, guy runover tacklers or jump over, them right.
39:39
Speaker 2: RIGHT i really think he helped change the game for
39:41
Speaker 2: tight ends in THE.
39:41
Speaker 1: Nfl, yeah, absolutely all, Right well that's a great number.
39:45
Speaker 1: Two my number TWO i am going to A Philadelphia
39:48
Speaker 1: phillies pitcher and that pitcher Is Roy. Halliday Ah, man
39:53
Speaker 1: what an incredible career we know that he, had but
39:57
Speaker 1: his tenure with The phillies was from twenty ten to twenty,
40:01
Speaker 1: thirteen and you could you could just go down his.
40:04
Speaker 1: RESUME i, mean just A Cy Young award, winner which
40:08
Speaker 1: was the second of his, career the first in The
40:11
Speaker 1: National league in twenty. Ten he had a twenty one
40:14
Speaker 1: to ten record at that point in twenty. Ten twenty
40:18
Speaker 1: ten was fantastic for. Him two point four to FOUR,
40:21
Speaker 1: era two hundred and nineteen. Strikeouts he led The Major
40:26
Speaker 1: League baseball and wins complete games at nine, shutouts four
40:30
Speaker 1: innings pitch two hundred and fifty point two. Innings what
40:35
Speaker 1: about the perfect game that he Threw may twenty, ninth twenty,
40:38
Speaker 1: ten against The Florida. Marlins it was the twentieth perfect
40:42
Speaker 1: game In Major League baseball. History The phills that game
40:46
Speaker 1: offense didn't help him out too, much but they won
40:49
Speaker 1: one zero, yep. Unreal and then the postseason no hitter
40:54
Speaker 1: against The Reds Roy halliday like all in on him of.
40:59
Speaker 2: Course, yeah and just the constant professional baseball. Player like
41:04
Speaker 2: what one THING i always jumped out of me IS
41:06
Speaker 2: i had never heard of the term arm. Slot ye
41:09
Speaker 2: have a picture And he's the first guy THAT i
41:12
Speaker 2: ever like watch videos on YouTube of like he his
41:16
Speaker 2: arm slot and his hand position on the ball was
41:19
Speaker 2: the same for every single pitch he. Threw and it's
41:22
Speaker 2: why he was so good besides his like his his
41:24
Speaker 2: training and like JUST i, mean you see the picture
41:27
Speaker 2: up here of, him he's a he's a. Monster, yeah
41:31
Speaker 2: it's just just just a beast and H but, again
41:36
Speaker 2: to be able to throw your, Fastball, kurt like all
41:39
Speaker 2: your pitches from that same arm slot to confuse the
41:42
Speaker 2: hitters like that takes that's like ninja kind of, shiit
41:47
Speaker 2: like like chess kind of. Stuff LIKE i don't know
41:50
Speaker 2: how you do that over. Time but like just and
41:53
Speaker 2: like one of the cerebral smarter pitcher pictures of all
41:56
Speaker 2: time baseball players and by the, way one of them
42:00
Speaker 2: Underrated Philadelphia Sports night of all time was his perfect
42:03
Speaker 2: game was the same night The flyers were playing i
42:06
Speaker 2: think The blackhawks in the finals and they won in.
42:09
Speaker 2: OVERTIME i, Believe.
42:10
Speaker 1: Oh my, Gosh i've completely forgot about.
42:12
Speaker 2: That, yeah BECAUSE i remember my buddy AND i were
42:13
Speaker 2: In harrisburg going back and, forth like what do we
42:17
Speaker 2: watch The flyers games? Tied he's got a perfect, game
42:20
Speaker 2: like it was JUST i just, think like there's probably
42:23
Speaker 2: Better philadelphia sports, nights BUT i remember that one being
42:26
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't even know this is before like having
42:29
Speaker 2: split screen or right to, watch just being LIKE i
42:32
Speaker 2: don't know what to, do go back and forth, QUICK i,
42:34
Speaker 2: guess just so so much fun this.
42:37
Speaker 1: Is this is a great discussion, here. MAN i just
42:40
Speaker 1: h these, memories you, know coming back of this starting
42:43
Speaker 1: pitching unit and the fact that you Know Roy, HALLIDAY i, mean,
42:46
Speaker 1: yes we're talking about the twenty ten year that was.
42:50
Speaker 1: Monumental but his twenty eleven, year, FOLKS i mean he
42:54
Speaker 1: he went nineteen and six with a two point three
42:57
Speaker 1: to FIVE era two hundred here, playoffs, YES i, know
43:02
Speaker 1: just and somehow he finished second in Cy young. Voting,
43:05
Speaker 1: Yes Clayton kershaw was the Cy young winner that that.
43:09
Speaker 1: Year but still just absolutely loved what he did on
43:13
Speaker 1: the mound In. Philly, eric who is your number one? Here?
43:17
Speaker 2: Well my number? One you know you know my love
43:20
Speaker 2: for this. GUY i WHEN i go to the, BEACH
43:23
Speaker 2: i wear his jersey all the time on the. Sand
43:26
Speaker 2: Moses malone JUST i mean one of my favorite sixtuers
43:30
Speaker 2: of all. Time but again one of those. Guys i'm just,
43:33
Speaker 2: LIKE i only played for the sixtuer for three.
43:36
Speaker 1: Years, yeah that's a shit.
43:38
Speaker 2: UNBELIEVABLE i didn't realize Now i'm discounting his season in
43:43
Speaker 2: ninety the ninety five, SEASON i think it, was, No,
43:48
Speaker 2: yeah it. Was it was like the mid. Nineties he
43:49
Speaker 2: came back for like twenty thirty. Games he was thirty years.
43:53
Speaker 2: Old i'm throwing that out of One, Jeff i'm sorry
43:55
Speaker 2: and breaking the. Rules, okay it doesn't. Count he averaged
43:57
Speaker 2: like four. Points it was just. Sad but like The
44:01
Speaker 2: sixers graded for. Him he came, in they won the
44:05
Speaker 2: eighty three, title demolished every fucking team in front of.
44:08
Speaker 2: Them it was the four to four. Season ye lost
44:12
Speaker 2: one game to The lakers, whatever and it's just like
44:15
Speaker 2: they are the most dominant team that year in in
44:18
Speaker 2: the era that The celtics And lakers were like just killing. Everybody,
44:22
Speaker 2: yeah this came in and just fucking slapped everyone in the.
44:25
Speaker 1: Face there WAS mvp in eight and eighty, three.
44:28
Speaker 2: Yeah and he WAS mvp and h. Before he's a
44:31
Speaker 2: three seventy nine, too, Right, yeah he's an all. Timer,
44:34
Speaker 2: yeah and one of the greatest players of all, time
44:37
Speaker 2: probably top fifteen if you if you feel like if
44:39
Speaker 2: you laid out and the only reason they won eighty
44:44
Speaker 2: three was trading For moses AND i really when he
44:49
Speaker 2: when he passed, Away my first thing On Twitter facebook,
44:53
Speaker 2: WAS i Guess god needed a championship because that was
44:58
Speaker 2: like when they traded for, him was, like well needed,
45:00
Speaker 2: Him like that's just, yes but like he he changed
45:04
Speaker 2: the entire franchise from like you just can't get over
45:07
Speaker 2: the fucking hump from seventy six to seventy seven to
45:10
Speaker 2: eighty and they can Beat. Magic he came in a
45:14
Speaker 2: three Kick magic's, ass Kick kareem's ass at their peak
45:19
Speaker 2: and just just just killed. Everybody like he's one of
45:22
Speaker 2: the best sixers of all. Time he played for three.
45:24
Speaker 2: Years it's just, it that's.
45:26
Speaker 1: It you, know the magic that he had also With DOCTOR.
45:32
Speaker 1: J you, know especially in eighty. Three you know you
45:36
Speaker 1: watch some of those excuse, me you watch some of
45:38
Speaker 1: those clips and him being named THE Nba FINALS mvp as.
45:44
Speaker 1: Well you, know when you are such a talented, athlete
45:49
Speaker 1: whether it's like we're talking About Tara, owens you, know
45:52
Speaker 1: you talk About Moses, malone if your talent can get
45:55
Speaker 1: your team to championship caliber level and completely transform a
46:01
Speaker 1: team or a unit or. WHATEVER i, mean you just
46:05
Speaker 1: go down in the history. Books is one of the
46:07
Speaker 1: greatest of all. Times you, know you, know you say
46:10
Speaker 1: he's number top. FIFTEEN i would argue possibly top.
46:14
Speaker 2: Ten probably top, ten top. Twelve, honestly, YEAH i like
46:19
Speaker 2: it starts to get he starts to get pushed down
46:21
Speaker 2: throughout the years because of like the durance and those
46:24
Speaker 2: kinds of. THINGS i, understand but like the, guy he
46:29
Speaker 2: was a high school, phenom got drafted at, nineteen came
46:33
Speaker 2: in THE aba at nineteen and Dominated. MEALY i maybe
46:39
Speaker 2: it was a really competitive league and the guy played
46:42
Speaker 2: for twenty some years and for him to get traded
46:44
Speaker 2: to The sixers in eighty three when THE nba landscape
46:47
Speaker 2: was like so, Competitive lakers And celtics were killing, everybody
46:52
Speaker 2: and he just was, like this team's. Good we Got,
46:56
Speaker 2: doc we Got andrewtonia see him in the. Picture now
46:58
Speaker 2: we Got mo and we Got Bobby jones to put
47:01
Speaker 2: him in this team and then just demolish the league
47:05
Speaker 2: like just how good a player he. Was and, LIKE
47:08
Speaker 2: i hope over time his legacy doesn't get, forgotten BECAUSE
47:10
Speaker 2: i sure, shit won't let it.
47:12
Speaker 1: Happen but, like, yeah he one of the best. Ever,
47:15
Speaker 1: yep it's. Great that is a great number. One and
47:19
Speaker 1: as we close out this particular segment here before we
47:22
Speaker 1: get to some football talk and it's kind of a
47:25
Speaker 1: nice dovetail into, it my number one athlete who played
47:29
Speaker 1: In philly for four seasons or less but had a
47:32
Speaker 1: huge impact on their team was none other than the
47:36
Speaker 1: First Super bowl Champion Philadelphia EAGLE mvp In Nick. Foles
47:41
Speaker 1: Nick foles taking The Philadelphia eagles in twenty seventeen season
47:46
Speaker 1: as we know to The Super Bowl eagles winning their
47:49
Speaker 1: first Super bowl, ever the most unlikely end of the
47:54
Speaker 1: season and playoff run perhaps of any team IN nfl. History,
48:00
Speaker 1: again he was a Super Bowl BOWL. Mvp In Super
48:03
Speaker 1: bowl fifty, two he threw for three hundred and seventy
48:06
Speaker 1: three yards three. Touchdowns he caught the Iconic philly special
48:11
Speaker 1: play that was a fourth and one from the goal,
48:13
Speaker 1: line and that year, too i should, say when he
48:18
Speaker 1: was on the team previously With Chip kelly being the head,
48:22
Speaker 1: coach he threw twenty seven touchdowns and just two. Interceptions
48:26
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen that tied a record seven touchdowns in
48:31
Speaker 1: a single game against The. Raiders if you happen to
48:33
Speaker 1: remember that, GAME i was craping my. PANTS i remember after.
48:36
Speaker 1: THAT i REMEMBER i was, like oh my, god that's
48:38
Speaker 1: back When lenn AND i were just doing the show
48:40
Speaker 1: and we got on did The eagles post game. Show
48:42
Speaker 1: that was. Great excuse? Me So Nick, foles, MAN i,
48:46
Speaker 1: mean for, me he's got to be the number one
48:49
Speaker 1: in terms of this.
48:49
Speaker 2: LIST i, agree AND i hell off no one BECAUSE
48:52
Speaker 2: i knew you're gonna pick. Him So.
48:56
Speaker 1: Moses is still, up like m And moses are still like, right, yeah.
49:00
Speaker 2: Because they brought, Championships like none of the guys we
49:02
Speaker 2: mentioned like actually brought. Championships SO i will say About Nick,
49:07
Speaker 2: foles like his best game as An eagle was actually
49:10
Speaker 2: not the Super, bowl in my, OPINION i think it
49:12
Speaker 2: was The vikings game before. That it. Was it was, Incredible,
49:16
Speaker 2: yeah because that was. Okay so remember like they finished the,
49:19
Speaker 2: season he was a little. Shaky it wasn't it wasn't. Great,
49:22
Speaker 2: yeah and they beat The falcons in the first round
49:26
Speaker 2: and you're, like oh my, god that was really, Close, like,
49:28
Speaker 2: Yeah wholly could have caught. That we're out of the. Playoffs.
49:31
Speaker 2: Yep and then The vikings games. Happened The Vikings vikings game.
49:35
Speaker 2: Happens my Buddy macro's over And i'm watching the game with,
49:39
Speaker 2: him and this dude is fucking slicing up The vikings,
49:43
Speaker 2: defense which is awesome all, year and they're up like
49:46
Speaker 2: twenty seven to what three at one point in the second,
49:49
Speaker 2: half and my my buddy And mac, like what the
49:53
Speaker 2: fuck is? Happening and it was just LIKE i HAD
49:58
Speaker 2: i didn't know he had that in. Him, Yes so
50:00
Speaker 2: that was the game actually built up the built up
50:05
Speaker 2: the confidence in him WHERE i wasn't surprised that it
50:08
Speaker 2: happened in The Super. Bowl, yeah The vikings, GAME i was,
50:11
Speaker 2: like this guy's the real fucking, deal like along with
50:13
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinators and, everything but like that was the.
50:16
Speaker 2: Game i'm, like this guy is fucking. Great, yeah it's
50:20
Speaker 2: actually it actually like Funck Ship kelly because like this
50:24
Speaker 2: guy made this guy did. That it Wasn't Chip kelly
50:27
Speaker 2: necessarily exactly. Good, yeah and That vikings game kind of, like,
50:30
Speaker 2: yeah it cemented that for.
50:31
Speaker 1: Me, yeah that flea flicker for a touchdown To Tory.
50:34
Speaker 1: Smith that right then and, THERE i was, like this
50:37
Speaker 1: is the most magical thing THAT i have ever seen
50:40
Speaker 1: from The Philadelphia eagles team at this point in the. Game.
50:44
Speaker 1: Unbelievable so that was a, fun fun segment for. Sure and,
50:49
Speaker 1: uh let's get back to uh how everything's supposed to
50:53
Speaker 1: look here on. YouTube and now before we get to our,
50:57
Speaker 1: interview we're gonna be talking to Egg kratz From Philadelphia
51:00
Speaker 1: eagles over on S. I we want to get into
51:03
Speaker 1: just real quick storylines that we're gonna be looking forward,
51:06
Speaker 1: to uh this COMING nfl? Season? Here what have you
51:12
Speaker 1: been given this any? Thought like what you're really thinking
51:15
Speaker 1: about in terms of this upcoming. Season so there's so
51:17
Speaker 1: many storylines like whether it's with every team or you,
51:21
Speaker 1: know there's, positives there's. Negatives what are your thoughts?
51:24
Speaker 2: Here i've got three big ones and they all kind
51:28
Speaker 2: of tie into the, well not so much the, one
51:31
Speaker 2: but they tye into The eagles because we're The Super
51:35
Speaker 2: bowl fucking champs and everything else doesn't. Matter all the
51:39
Speaker 2: other teams can eat my. Ass So i'll do THE
51:47
Speaker 2: afc story. Last but like my number one story honestly
51:51
Speaker 2: is the The rams are, scary the L A, Rams
51:56
Speaker 2: and LIKE i, think as THE nfc, Landscape i'm not
52:01
Speaker 2: really afraid of any team as An eagles. Fan, yeah
52:03
Speaker 2: that's the one team that kind of worries me a little.
52:05
Speaker 1: Bit, yeah, Okay and.
52:08
Speaker 2: What two reasons WHY i love their off season offseason.
52:11
Speaker 2: MOVES i thought they really handled the off season, correctly
52:15
Speaker 2: built up a great. DEFENSE i think THEY i think
52:17
Speaker 2: they like MOST nfl, teams they looked across, like, okay
52:21
Speaker 2: what did The eagles do to? Win let's copy that
52:23
Speaker 2: a little. Bit and they resigned their quarterback because they had.
52:26
Speaker 2: To they Brought DeVante. Adams it was a great number,
52:30
Speaker 2: two not a number one. ANYMORE i actually liked that.
52:32
Speaker 2: Signing and they built up they they kind of strengthened
52:35
Speaker 2: their offensive. Line they they kind of and then drafted
52:37
Speaker 2: based to kind of build their, defense because that's how
52:40
Speaker 2: The eagles won The Super.
52:41
Speaker 1: Bowl, Right, yeah.
52:42
Speaker 2: Basically AND i went back the other night BECAUSE I
52:46
Speaker 2: I i, UH i was Because i'm a. WEIRDO i was,
52:54
Speaker 2: like SOMETIMES i watched Old eagles games and especially the playoff.
52:57
Speaker 2: Stuff YouTube has, awesome like twenty minute videos were like
53:01
Speaker 2: you just watch entire playoff. Game AND i was listening
53:05
Speaker 2: to podcasts recently WITH nfl preseason, podcasts and they're just, like,
53:10
Speaker 2: man The eagles almost lost The, rams And i'm, like,
53:13
Speaker 2: no they fucking. Didn't like In nancy talgame like screw
53:16
Speaker 2: that went back and, Watched i'm, like they kind of.
53:19
Speaker 2: Did they almost lost to, them and it really bothered.
53:22
Speaker 2: ME i was, like BECAUSE i was always arguing in
53:24
Speaker 2: my head like, YEAH i was, like, NO i don't
53:26
Speaker 2: agree with. That and THEN i watched the game on.
53:28
Speaker 2: YouTube i'm, like, dude If Jalen carters make those two
53:31
Speaker 2: plays in the fourth, Quarter rams might be going to
53:34
Speaker 2: the Super. Bowl eagles. Aren't like it bothered, me and
53:37
Speaker 2: THEN i saw they did in the off. Season i'm, Like,
53:40
Speaker 2: okay The rams absolutely could make a run in THE
53:43
Speaker 2: nfc and disrupt The eagles like dynasty kind of going. Forward,
53:49
Speaker 2: YEAH i that's that's one of the biggest that that's
53:53
Speaker 2: the number one Storyline i'm not talking. About i'm not
53:55
Speaker 2: Doing eagles storylines because who, cares like were but like
53:59
Speaker 2: The rams won and their ability to possibly like make
54:03
Speaker 2: a run and beat The eagles like concerns me as a.
54:06
Speaker 1: Fan one of the Storylines i'm following and it kind
54:09
Speaker 1: of dovetails off of, that but in a way WHERE
54:12
Speaker 1: i think the team is going to take steps back
54:14
Speaker 1: because this team faced The eagles in THE Nfc Championship
54:18
Speaker 1: game and The Washington commanders after its best season that
54:23
Speaker 1: they've had in what thirty three? Years that question, is
54:27
Speaker 1: Can Dan quinn in his second season do this? Again
54:31
Speaker 1: Will Jaden daniels be able to do this? Again can
54:34
Speaker 1: they build off that champion THAT Nfc Championship game. APPEARANCE
54:40
Speaker 1: i don't know if they can because just like With
54:42
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts when he was quote getting figured, out you,
54:46
Speaker 1: know during his second, Season Jaden daniels is going to
54:50
Speaker 1: get figured out in certain. Ways are they going to
54:53
Speaker 1: be as successful as they were last? Season This Washington commander's.
54:57
Speaker 1: TEAM i have a feeling they're going to take some steps,
54:59
Speaker 1: back even though they made some offseason moves that would
55:03
Speaker 1: hopefully help propel. Them, wait when you look to where
55:06
Speaker 1: you are or where you were the previous year and
55:09
Speaker 1: where you want to. GO i don't know if the
55:11
Speaker 1: moves that they made make them a Super bowl, team
55:15
Speaker 1: because that's inevitably the next step for them after losing
55:18
Speaker 1: THE Nfc Championship. Game so where The commanders go and
55:23
Speaker 1: then where the Stupid Dallas cowboys end up going, too
55:25
Speaker 1: with their awful owner who can't talk during his press
55:29
Speaker 1: conferences and who's shitting On Micah, Parsons Dak. Prescott it's
55:36
Speaker 1: incredible where that organization. Is SO i don't know if
55:38
Speaker 1: THE Nfc east in general is going to necessarily be
55:41
Speaker 1: the coole powerhouse that we've seen it over the past few,
55:45
Speaker 1: seasons but The Washington commanders in, general that's the storyline
55:49
Speaker 1: That i'm really going to be watching early on just
55:53
Speaker 1: to see what what's going to be happening With Jaden
55:55
Speaker 1: daniels and with the defense. TOO i just THOUGH i
55:58
Speaker 1: think they're going to take some steps back this coming.
56:00
Speaker 2: Season, yeah AND i APOLOGIZE i flipped the games The
56:04
Speaker 2: combs were the. Title, yeah, yeah but that's my second
56:09
Speaker 2: storyline is in my belief that they're gonna take they're
56:15
Speaker 2: going to take a major step. Back every, year some
56:19
Speaker 2: team like goes further than you, think and every year
56:22
Speaker 2: some team takes a huge step back right from the.
56:25
Speaker 2: Playoffs AND i don't think it's not gonna be The,
56:28
Speaker 2: Eagles they're too, consistent not The. LIONS i THINK i
56:31
Speaker 2: think The combs are like so ready to make a,
56:35
Speaker 2: major major step, back and whether that be A Jayden daniels,
56:40
Speaker 2: Injury like they had a lot of history or a
56:43
Speaker 2: lot of injury luck last, years including, him because he
56:47
Speaker 2: is a phenomenally talented athletic, quarterback but like really thin
56:54
Speaker 2: and just do for like A he's Not Lamar, Jackson
56:57
Speaker 2: Like Lamar jackson is, jacked, right and he, Runs i'm
57:00
Speaker 2: not scared When Jayden daniels. Runs it's, like well win
57:05
Speaker 2: stick legs out. There, yeah a little wafer is a
57:09
Speaker 2: bird chest, Right And i'm, like, man he might he
57:13
Speaker 2: might take a shot that puts him out for four,
57:15
Speaker 2: Weeks like, yeah and who's the who's their? BACKUP i
57:18
Speaker 2: have no. Idea i'm not even sure who their backup.
57:20
Speaker 2: Is that exactly that's the exact. Team you're, like, yeah
57:23
Speaker 2: you have no. Backup if this goes this goes south
57:26
Speaker 2: for four, weeks you're probably out of the. Playoffs so
57:28
Speaker 2: like that is a team to me that is like
57:31
Speaker 2: like absolutely could take a huge step back some of
57:35
Speaker 2: the signings you're talking. About they signed Von miller And
57:38
Speaker 2: i'm like Von, miller the guy who was suspended last
57:41
Speaker 2: year for The bills that didn't do, Ship like, yeah
57:44
Speaker 2: and how many million dollars like the tail end of his,
57:47
Speaker 2: CAREER i mean the tail end of his. Career he
57:49
Speaker 2: hail end of his. Career some of the signings they,
57:53
Speaker 2: Made i'm, like those feel like desperate veteran moves when
57:57
Speaker 2: you're kind of at the end of your window and
57:59
Speaker 2: not getting your.
58:00
Speaker 1: Window remember when they did it With Bruce smith back
58:02
Speaker 1: in the, day when When smith was on the on The,
58:05
Speaker 1: bills you knew is you knew the end of his
58:08
Speaker 1: his career was really on the. Horizon and then and
58:11
Speaker 1: it just happened when he got down To.
58:12
Speaker 2: Washington, YEAH i just didn't some of the moves they
58:16
Speaker 2: made and it hit the luck they had last. Year
58:18
Speaker 2: they reaked to me of a team that's like absolutely
58:23
Speaker 2: due for a possible like down.
58:24
Speaker 1: Year absolutely, yeah, yep a team That i'm also going
58:27
Speaker 1: to be looking at, too And i'm gonna Go i'm
58:29
Speaker 1: just gonna go, quick just in the essence of time.
58:31
Speaker 1: Here but The Denver broncos are very intriguing to. ME
58:35
Speaker 1: i wonder what adjustments AND i wonder what Adjustments Sean
58:40
Speaker 1: payton is going to make in year two with Bow.
58:42
Speaker 1: NICKS i, mean Bo nicks was one of the most underrated.
58:45
Speaker 1: STORYLINES i thought last year you want to talk about
58:48
Speaker 1: a quarterback who was. Developing look many of the short
58:52
Speaker 1: and intermediate roots he was so successful with in a
58:56
Speaker 1: twenty nine touchdown rookie, season it might be better. Covered
59:01
Speaker 1: as you, know defensive coaches, again just Like Jayden, daniels
59:05
Speaker 1: they're going to figure out Bo nicks a little bit.
59:07
Speaker 1: More is he going to be able to throw to the? Outside?
59:09
Speaker 1: Uh you know with the outside numbers are his effectiveness
59:13
Speaker 1: as a runner is not no longer going to be
59:16
Speaker 1: a surprise as it was last. Season But Bo nick
59:18
Speaker 1: seems to be a guy who is coachable AND i
59:21
Speaker 1: think very much Like i'm not comparing him To Jalen,
59:25
Speaker 1: hurts but he seems to be a guy who gets,
59:27
Speaker 1: it who's very coachable Like Jalen. HURTS i think Bow
59:30
Speaker 1: knicks is going to take some steps, forward which means
59:33
Speaker 1: The Denver broncos offense is also going to take some
59:36
Speaker 1: steps forward as. WELL i THINK i think The Denver
59:38
Speaker 1: broncos are going to be a very interesting team to
59:41
Speaker 1: follow this.
59:41
Speaker 2: SEASON i, Agree and they made The they made the
59:44
Speaker 2: playoffs last, year which who the hell thought that was
59:46
Speaker 2: going to? HAPPEN i, Know And Bo nicks was drafted
59:49
Speaker 2: into a perfect situation BECAUSE i think it. Was as we've,
59:53
Speaker 2: discovered there's not some there's some really bad coaches in THE,
59:56
Speaker 2: nfl just like THE. Nba, yeah, like but The Denver
1:00:00
Speaker 2: broncos coach is not. Bad Sean payton is an excellent,
1:00:03
Speaker 2: coach and he found the perfect opportunity for himself to
1:00:07
Speaker 2: come out of the announcing booth or, whatever, yeah and
1:00:10
Speaker 2: become a. Coach and like he PROBABLY i think he
1:00:13
Speaker 2: pushed For bonix because he kind of saw something and he's,
1:00:17
Speaker 2: LIKE i can mold this dude into WHAT i want
1:00:20
Speaker 2: him to. Be and it absolutely worked last year because
1:00:23
Speaker 2: and LIKE i, said he's he's actually a really good,
1:00:25
Speaker 2: athlete WHICH i didn't realize about him coming out of.
1:00:27
Speaker 2: College not A Jayden daniels ty. Athlete but, LIKE i don't.
1:00:31
Speaker 2: KNOW i think they're going to make the playoffs, again
1:00:34
Speaker 2: AND i think they're actually going TO i agree with.
1:00:35
Speaker 2: THAT i think they're going to make a. Leap, yeah
1:00:38
Speaker 2: because they're they're a really good defense. Too that's a huge.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: Part all, Right, well, buddy do you have anything else
1:00:43
Speaker 1: before we head out of? Here BEFORE i let you, Go, NO.
1:00:48
Speaker 2: I my last my LAST nfl. POINT i think The
1:00:51
Speaker 2: bills are going to finally make the. Leap that's the big.
1:00:54
Speaker 2: ONE i think they're gonna make A i think they're
1:00:57
Speaker 2: finally going to push through The chiefs make the Super.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: Bowl all. Right i'm not biased because my daughter's going To,
1:01:02
Speaker 2: buffalo but, LIKE i think that's gonna, happen.
1:01:04
Speaker 1: All, RIGHT i can't wait if it's gonna be uh
1:01:07
Speaker 1: look putting the car before the horse saying, It but
1:01:09
Speaker 1: A Bill's eagle Super bowl would be pretty freaking, incredible.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: Incredible it would.
1:01:13
Speaker 1: Be all, right, Buddy i'm gonna let you, go. Folks
1:01:16
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1:01:17
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1:01:19
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1:01:23
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1:01:29
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1:01:33
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1:01:37
Speaker 1: to talk about This Philadelphia eagles team what this upcoming
1:01:40
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1:01:43
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1:01:46
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1:01:52
Speaker 1: and has been for well over a. DECADE i think
1:01:54
Speaker 1: maybe going on eleven twelve years at this, Point, Ed but, yeah.
1:01:59
Speaker 3: A little longer team to be a.
1:02:00
Speaker 1: Fourteen oh my, Gosh time, flies time. Flies But ed's
1:02:04
Speaker 1: got fantastic content over AT si At eagles, Today, buddy
1:02:09
Speaker 1: thanks so much for jumping on man to dive into
1:02:11
Speaker 1: This eagles. TEAM i can't wait for some. Football and
1:02:13
Speaker 1: it's great to see my.
1:02:14
Speaker 3: Friend, yeah great to see, You. Jeffy it's Like christmas
1:02:17
Speaker 3: In july. Here, yes you know what training camp about
1:02:22
Speaker 3: to break and you know NonStop.
1:02:24
Speaker 1: Action absolutely absolutely Well. January, Yeah, ed let's get into
1:02:29
Speaker 1: the discussion right away about This eagles. Team some of
1:02:31
Speaker 1: the storylines were following what we may be seeing during
1:02:34
Speaker 1: training camp and. BEYOND i wanted to get into an
1:02:37
Speaker 1: article that you recently. Wrote you went into some of
1:02:40
Speaker 1: those questions that we're going to be needing to hash
1:02:43
Speaker 1: out over the coming weeks and early in this season
1:02:45
Speaker 1: when it comes to This eagles, TEAM i think the
1:02:48
Speaker 1: first and biggest, one and you mentioned it in your,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: article is offensive Coordinator Kevin patulo his readiness to lead
1:02:55
Speaker 1: the offensive side of. Things you mentioned How. Patullo he
1:02:59
Speaker 1: had been around for some time Since Nick sirianni arrived
1:03:03
Speaker 1: on the scene in twenty twenty. One last, Year Kellen
1:03:06
Speaker 1: moore is at The helm as we, know he's now
1:03:08
Speaker 1: down In New. Orleans Kellen moore had to quickly pick
1:03:12
Speaker 1: up what This eagles offense, was What Nick sirianni wanted
1:03:16
Speaker 1: it to, be to build those relationships with those team
1:03:21
Speaker 1: members and guys on the. Offense so what kind of
1:03:26
Speaker 1: leader and coach do you think we're going to see
1:03:28
Speaker 1: in terms of What Kevin petulo is really going to
1:03:30
Speaker 1: bring to the table early in this.
1:03:31
Speaker 2: Season, YEAH i think he brings.
1:03:34
Speaker 3: Consistency you, Know Jalen hurts has had several offensive coordinators
1:03:39
Speaker 3: going back to his time At alabama and Then oklahoma
1:03:41
Speaker 3: and Then philadelphia When peterson was here With Press, taylor you,
1:03:47
Speaker 3: know so there have been a lot of different configurations
1:03:50
Speaker 3: of the. Offense BUT i Think, petullo you, mentioned he's
1:03:53
Speaker 3: been here Since sirianni got. Here that was twenty twenty,
1:03:56
Speaker 3: One so this is five years now that he has
1:03:59
Speaker 3: been in that building on the sideline at, practices getting
1:04:03
Speaker 3: to know the, players building relationships with the, players AND
1:04:07
Speaker 3: i think him And Jalen hurts have a pretty good.
1:04:09
Speaker 3: Relationship now you, know that could be good or bad
1:04:12
Speaker 3: if you're too close to him and you're more of
1:04:14
Speaker 3: a yes man and you're bending to What jalen. Wants
1:04:16
Speaker 3: but you, know my take On Kevin petullo and talking
1:04:19
Speaker 3: to people is he's gonna if if you're not doing
1:04:22
Speaker 3: things the right way or the way he wants them,
1:04:25
Speaker 3: done then he's gonna call you, out no matter how
1:04:27
Speaker 3: strong that relationship might. Be so that's a good. Thing
1:04:32
Speaker 3: the flip side of, It jeff is the, coaching the
1:04:36
Speaker 3: calling of the plays. Aspect you, know he has never
1:04:39
Speaker 3: called plays before in a, game and you Know Nick
1:04:42
Speaker 3: siriani's not taking that mantle over uh to call plays
1:04:47
Speaker 3: that is being handed to, uh To Kevin, patulo just
1:04:51
Speaker 3: like it was To Kellen. Moore can he do? It you,
1:04:54
Speaker 3: know once he's in that. Spot. Uh you Know nick
1:04:59
Speaker 3: has said that him and Kell moore really did a
1:05:01
Speaker 3: good job on game days communicating plays between each, other
1:05:05
Speaker 3: talking a couple plays down the, road if this is the,
1:05:08
Speaker 3: situation what are we calling? Here so he has that
1:05:11
Speaker 3: kind of, experience but his is going to be kind
1:05:14
Speaker 3: of the final voice And jalen hurts his. Ears this
1:05:16
Speaker 3: is the. Play he's going to be in the, helmet
1:05:19
Speaker 3: and then of Course jalen can come to the line
1:05:20
Speaker 3: and if he, sees you, know a defense that is
1:05:24
Speaker 3: going to take that play, away he can audible out of.
1:05:26
Speaker 3: It but it's going to be incumbent On petullo to
1:05:30
Speaker 3: called plays and we'll see if he can do that
1:05:32
Speaker 3: once the clock is beginning to take the play clocks winding,
1:05:34
Speaker 3: down you, know is he going to be effective doing?
1:05:38
Speaker 3: That it might might be some growing pains. There, Yeah
1:05:42
Speaker 3: i'd be surprised maybe if there, were because of this
1:05:44
Speaker 3: relationship they, had because of the closeness between him And
1:05:47
Speaker 3: Kellen moore last. Year SO i think it will be.
1:05:51
Speaker 3: Seamless but it's something to certainly watch here in the early.
1:05:54
Speaker 2: Days.
1:05:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely, look there's a lot to keep our eyes on
1:05:58
Speaker 1: during this early part of you know, what This eagles
1:06:01
Speaker 1: season is going to. Be quite, frankly and while we're
1:06:04
Speaker 1: all still on that high from the Super, bowl so
1:06:06
Speaker 1: many of us. Are we feel like there's so many
1:06:08
Speaker 1: FOLKS i talk to it's like we actually don't want
1:06:10
Speaker 1: the season to start because we just want to keep
1:06:12
Speaker 1: riding the Amazing Super bowl that it was we want
1:06:15
Speaker 1: to keep riding that. High But, ed you also wrote
1:06:18
Speaker 1: about how we're going to need to keep our eyes
1:06:20
Speaker 1: on these injuries and how the injuries like during the
1:06:23
Speaker 1: offseason have manifested and you know the recovery time for these.
1:06:27
Speaker 1: Guys Nikobe dean is still nursing his knee. Injury first
1:06:30
Speaker 1: round pick in this past year's, Draft Jihad, campbell he's
1:06:33
Speaker 1: been dealing with a shoulder. Injury we know That Nolan
1:06:36
Speaker 1: smith he tore his tricep during The Super. Bowl he's
1:06:39
Speaker 1: been nursing. That Cam jurgens he's had some back problems
1:06:42
Speaker 1: going back to last season as. Well when do you
1:06:44
Speaker 1: think will end up seeing these players on the field
1:06:47
Speaker 1: first and foremost and, Second, ed what kind of depth
1:06:51
Speaker 1: do you think we're going to need to really keep
1:06:54
Speaker 1: our eyes on with These eagles players if there are
1:06:57
Speaker 1: any setbacks to these you, know starter or if they
1:07:00
Speaker 1: have trouble getting on the field in a timely. Fashion.
1:07:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know that's the danger of playing these
1:07:07
Speaker 3: extra playoff games is you open yourself up to at
1:07:10
Speaker 3: greater risk of getting. Hurt you, know you Said Nolan
1:07:13
Speaker 3: smith in The Super, bowl and Then Kobe dean tore
1:07:15
Speaker 3: his knee in the first round of the playoffs against
1:07:18
Speaker 3: The Green Bay. Packers so those are two key players.
1:07:21
Speaker 3: Obviously you, KNOW i, think you, Know Nolan smith will be.
1:07:25
Speaker 3: OKAY i, mean he's probably there's a lot of tough
1:07:28
Speaker 3: guys on this team That Nolan smith doesn't take a
1:07:30
Speaker 3: backseat to any of, them, right you, Know and he
1:07:33
Speaker 3: did some stuff during the, spring SO i suspect he'll
1:07:37
Speaker 3: be up and rolling sooner rather than, later maybe even you,
1:07:42
Speaker 3: know day one or day. Two you, Know i'm not so.
1:07:47
Speaker 3: Sure Jahad, CAMPBELL i think they really want him to
1:07:50
Speaker 3: get as healthy as he can. Be but you, know
1:07:52
Speaker 3: we saw When Cooper dejane missed most of the summer
1:07:56
Speaker 3: training camp last. Year it took him to week six
1:07:58
Speaker 3: before they put him in The star arting. Lineup, me
1:08:01
Speaker 3: they're going to Need Johan campbell a little sooner than,
1:08:03
Speaker 3: that especially because The Kobe dean's probably going to start
1:08:07
Speaker 3: on the pup list with that knee. Injury who knows
1:08:10
Speaker 3: when he'll be. Back pretty serious knee, injury the one
1:08:14
Speaker 3: That i'm concerned, about and maybe The eagles are, too
1:08:18
Speaker 3: because they drafted another center And Drew kendall is the
1:08:22
Speaker 3: Center Cam. Jurgens you, know those back, injuries if you
1:08:24
Speaker 3: ever had any back, problems they can be pretty debilitating
1:08:29
Speaker 3: and they're tough injuries to. Overcome you, know you can
1:08:33
Speaker 3: get a knee, replacement shoulder, replacement hit, replacement but you
1:08:36
Speaker 3: only get one back and replace, that so you really
1:08:39
Speaker 3: have to be careful with. It he had a procedure
1:08:42
Speaker 3: done on. It i'm not exactly sure what he had.
1:08:45
Speaker 3: Done maybe we'll get to the bottom of, it you,
1:08:46
Speaker 3: know once camp gets. Rolling but it's something to, watch
1:08:51
Speaker 3: and that's WHY i think The eagles might have shown
1:08:54
Speaker 3: a little.
1:08:54
Speaker 2: Concern.
1:08:54
Speaker 3: NOW i know they Extended jurgons here in the off.
1:08:57
Speaker 3: Season he's here through twenty twenty. Nine long, term maybe
1:09:01
Speaker 3: they're not as, concerned but short term they Drafted Drew,
1:09:03
Speaker 3: KENDALL i think was the best center in the draft
1:09:06
Speaker 3: out Of Boston. College his dad was in THE, nfl
1:09:10
Speaker 3: longtime guard in THE. Nfl But Drew, kendall you, know
1:09:15
Speaker 3: he's there waiting If cam can't answer the bell in
1:09:19
Speaker 3: a timely, fashion or if this injury flares up during
1:09:22
Speaker 3: the course of the, season it might need a week
1:09:24
Speaker 3: or two. Off you have a guy And Drew kendall
1:09:27
Speaker 3: that can do the. Job so by drafting him what
1:09:31
Speaker 3: was in the fourth, ROUND i think the fifth, round maybe?
1:09:34
Speaker 2: Fifth, yeah uther.
1:09:35
Speaker 3: Fifth that indicates to me, that, yeah maybe The eagles
1:09:38
Speaker 3: have a little bit of concern On Cam. Jurgens so,
1:09:41
Speaker 3: yeah that's the ONE i Think jefted would concern me,
1:09:44
Speaker 3: most is the one For Cam.
1:09:45
Speaker 1: Jurgens all, right sounds good and we'll certainly be keeping
1:09:49
Speaker 1: our eyes on that here at The Philadelphia Sports table
1:09:51
Speaker 1: podcast show and something else we're gonna be keeping our
1:09:53
Speaker 1: eyes on quite frankly. Ed and last week on the
1:09:56
Speaker 1: SHOW i talked about. THIS i mentioned How i'm a
1:10:00
Speaker 1: bit concerned With eagles Kicker Jake. ELLIOTT i, mean he
1:10:03
Speaker 1: had a brutal regular season last year in twenty twenty,
1:10:07
Speaker 1: four making seventy seven point eight percent of his, kicks
1:10:10
Speaker 1: which was twenty sixth in the league and kicking during
1:10:13
Speaker 1: the regular. Season, however things started coming together for him
1:10:16
Speaker 1: during the. Playoffs he was a major major contributor during
1:10:19
Speaker 1: The Super bowl as. Well so, yes ended the season.
1:10:22
Speaker 1: Strong but there are a lot of questions during the
1:10:24
Speaker 1: course of the. Offseason what are your thoughts when it
1:10:27
Speaker 1: comes To Jake Elliott when it comes to that leg
1:10:30
Speaker 1: of his where he's at in his, career and, really
1:10:33
Speaker 1: if we should be concerned with his leg coming into this, season.
1:10:36
Speaker 3: Well you know how kickers, are, right they're you, know
1:10:39
Speaker 3: they're a different, animal you, know different. Headspace. Yep but,
1:10:44
Speaker 3: yeah and that's a good question because not a lot
1:10:47
Speaker 3: of people were probably thinking About Jake elliott and he
1:10:49
Speaker 3: did struggle last. Year, now you, KNOW i was told
1:10:52
Speaker 3: that he was working his way through an. Injury he
1:10:54
Speaker 3: never admitted to. It players don't admit to injury right,
1:10:57
Speaker 3: now he's just, like you, KNOW i gotta be, better
1:10:59
Speaker 3: right to the bottom. Line they don't make the. Excuses
1:11:02
Speaker 3: BUT i was told that he was fighting his way
1:11:04
Speaker 3: through a leg. Injury and it was a weird year
1:11:07
Speaker 3: because they used their punter to kick off in some.
1:11:10
Speaker 3: Situations they were kind of Saving jake's leg on, kickoffs
1:11:14
Speaker 3: and maybe they did that because they were concerned about
1:11:17
Speaker 3: maybe an injury that was out. There you, know it
1:11:19
Speaker 3: was working his way through and maybe never got to
1:11:22
Speaker 3: the end of. It but you, know you hope that
1:11:25
Speaker 3: he's healthier now after these few weeks. Off AND i
1:11:29
Speaker 3: also Think jeff that a lot of those snaps weren't
1:11:33
Speaker 3: really good From Brick. Levado like towards the end of the,
1:11:36
Speaker 3: Season levado was center in the ball on field, goals
1:11:39
Speaker 3: kind of all over the. Place he, had you, know
1:11:42
Speaker 3: he had made the holder reach on a few of,
1:11:44
Speaker 3: those and maybe that disrupted the timing a little, bit
1:11:47
Speaker 3: or maybe that was Inside jake's. Head is the ball
1:11:49
Speaker 3: going to be there WHEN i swing my? Leg and
1:11:52
Speaker 3: that's Why Rick lovato is no longer on this, team
1:11:55
Speaker 3: to be honest with, you as he struggled with his
1:11:57
Speaker 3: snapping late in the season and that could have been
1:11:59
Speaker 3: a piece to elliott. Struggles so they have a new
1:12:03
Speaker 3: long snapper, now a guy that's done it for ten,
1:12:05
Speaker 3: years eleven, Years Charlie. HEWLETT i think his name. Is
1:12:08
Speaker 3: it came over from The. Browns you hope that he's you,
1:12:11
Speaker 3: know and the long. Snapper you're always overlook this long, snapper,
1:12:14
Speaker 3: Right the only time they talk about is if you
1:12:16
Speaker 3: sail on over somebody. Exactly, Yes but he was a little,
1:12:20
Speaker 3: WILD i thought toward the end of the, year and
1:12:22
Speaker 3: that may have Impacted jake as.
1:12:23
Speaker 1: Well, YEAH i think that's some good analysis. There we
1:12:25
Speaker 1: got to keep our eyes On Jake elliot, folks and
1:12:28
Speaker 1: yes it could have been the long, snapper but it
1:12:30
Speaker 1: was a bizarre year For Jake, elliot who's been on
1:12:33
Speaker 1: this team ever since The Super bowl year since twenty.
1:12:36
Speaker 1: Seventeen really the first year where we had some questions for.
1:12:39
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1:13:34
Speaker 1: DEFENSE i certainly want to talk. About you, know what
1:13:36
Speaker 1: this unit is going to be this. Year they're, slated of,
1:13:40
Speaker 1: course to be one of the top defenses in THE
1:13:42
Speaker 1: nfl this coming, season you, know based on some general
1:13:45
Speaker 1: preseason rankings that we have been. Seeing and of, course,
1:13:48
Speaker 1: YES i think they're going to be a very very
1:13:50
Speaker 1: good defense in unit this coming. Year BUT i do
1:13:53
Speaker 1: have some hesitation on how things will go one at
1:13:56
Speaker 1: the safety, position as we've been talking on this podcast
1:13:58
Speaker 1: platform for the past several, weeks and even from a
1:14:01
Speaker 1: pass rush, standpoint, look certain players are going to have
1:14:05
Speaker 1: to step up in a big way this, season in
1:14:07
Speaker 1: my opinion from a developmental, Perspective guys who are going
1:14:11
Speaker 1: to need to fill the holes Of Brandon, Graham Josh,
1:14:15
Speaker 1: Sweat Milton williams who are no longer on this. Team
1:14:18
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on some of the holes that
1:14:21
Speaker 1: we may see on This eagles defense heading into the,
1:14:23
Speaker 1: season and you, know some of the depth that we
1:14:25
Speaker 1: may end up seeing as.
1:14:26
Speaker 3: Well, YEAH i Think Vic, fangio the defensive, coordinator was
1:14:32
Speaker 3: asked this in the, spring AND i thought he gave
1:14:34
Speaker 3: a great, answer as we had a lot of these
1:14:36
Speaker 3: same questions at different positions and about players heading into last. Year,
1:14:39
Speaker 3: yeah and then it all came together and he, said
1:14:42
Speaker 3: it's not unlike this. Year we have a lot of
1:14:43
Speaker 3: questions about, talent about, positions and we're just going to
1:14:49
Speaker 3: have to answer him find a way to get that. Answered,
1:14:51
Speaker 3: so you, KNOW i thought that was a good answer
1:14:53
Speaker 3: because he's. Right you, know if you think about last,
1:14:56
Speaker 3: year there were some questions on, defense and you, know
1:14:59
Speaker 3: how is it all going to come? Together and Is
1:15:01
Speaker 3: quinna And mitchell going to be the starting corner and you,
1:15:04
Speaker 3: know you, know you can go back and look at
1:15:06
Speaker 3: all the, questions but, no you're, right you HAVE i
1:15:08
Speaker 3: Think Brandon, graham the leadership he provided on defense was.
1:15:13
Speaker 3: HUGE i think this game With Darius, SLAY i think
1:15:16
Speaker 3: he was a great leader. Too that to me is
1:15:19
Speaker 3: my biggest question is where is that leadership going to come.
1:15:22
Speaker 3: From this is a, young young, defense probably the second
1:15:25
Speaker 3: youngest in the. League it's only about twenty five years.
1:15:28
Speaker 3: Old the oldest player is H, Nickerson Perry, nickerson who's
1:15:33
Speaker 3: thirty years, old, right you, know and he's not even
1:15:36
Speaker 3: sure he's going to make the team And Dry jackson
1:15:38
Speaker 3: will be thirty In, september so you don't really have
1:15:41
Speaker 3: a guy over thirty on this. Defense so where's that
1:15:45
Speaker 3: going to? Come Can Zach bond be the leader that
1:15:47
Speaker 3: you know his stats speak to certainly stuffed the stat
1:15:50
Speaker 3: sheet last. Year but you know there are concerns questions
1:15:55
Speaker 3: for sure the. Edge do they have enough? Help you
1:15:58
Speaker 3: know After Jylex hunt And Nolan, smith.
1:16:03
Speaker 2: That's a big.
1:16:03
Speaker 3: Concern but to me so is leadership? Cornerback you mentioned No.
1:16:07
Speaker 3: Sleigh Can Kille ringos step in and fill that? SPOT
1:16:11
Speaker 3: i Think Isaiah rodgers has lost going To minnesota in free.
1:16:15
Speaker 3: Agency that's a big. One he was a key reserve
1:16:17
Speaker 3: player who stepped in For slay when he had a
1:16:21
Speaker 3: concussion slated and you know he didn't play every game
1:16:24
Speaker 3: last year And rodgers was, there very vital fill, in
1:16:27
Speaker 3: very good at that. Job so who's going to do that?
1:16:29
Speaker 3: Job is it going to be the loser of that
1:16:31
Speaker 3: cornerback battle Between jackson And ringo and can they do it?
1:16:35
Speaker 3: Effectively that probably is my second or third. Concern i'd
1:16:39
Speaker 3: put leadership. Edge did they have enough on the outside
1:16:41
Speaker 3: at pass? Rusher? Yeah and then that cornerback. Spot those
1:16:44
Speaker 3: are two big ones BECAUSE i Think Jeff drew, mccouba
1:16:48
Speaker 3: the second round pick out Of, texas the, SAFETY i
1:16:50
Speaker 3: think he's going to end up being a starter next
1:16:52
Speaker 3: To reid Blanket.
1:16:53
Speaker 1: Ship i'm hoping he's going to be a stud BECAUSE
1:16:55
Speaker 1: i think LOSING. Cj Gardner, johnson and, yes well there
1:16:57
Speaker 1: were some hiccups here and there with his play on the.
1:16:59
Speaker 1: Field you, know six interceptions last. SEASON i, believe If
1:17:02
Speaker 1: i'm not, mistaken maybe he was here then the previous
1:17:06
Speaker 1: or two seasons before that it was another six. Interceptions you,
1:17:10
Speaker 1: know that's defensive playmaking right, there that you're. Losing SO
1:17:13
Speaker 1: i have that. CONCERN i definitely have that. Concern but
1:17:16
Speaker 1: BEFORE i let you, go, buddy AND i very much
1:17:18
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time to jump on, here AND
1:17:22
Speaker 1: i hesitate to actually ask you, this but it's part
1:17:26
Speaker 1: of the narrative with This Philadelphia eagles team at this
1:17:29
Speaker 1: point in. Time as ridiculous as it is in my,
1:17:31
Speaker 1: opinion the storylines that just Surround Jalen hurts by much
1:17:36
Speaker 1: of the more national media. Types, AGAIN i think it's
1:17:40
Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous just how he's not a top five quarterback
1:17:43
Speaker 1: in the. League you, know he's if he didn't have
1:17:45
Speaker 1: this piece or that, piece he really wouldn't be that
1:17:48
Speaker 1: great of a. Quarterback he'd be a mid, level mid tier.
1:17:50
Speaker 1: Quarterback you, know many have said that quarterbacks Like Jared
1:17:55
Speaker 1: goff And Justin herbert should be ranked well ahead Of Jalen,
1:17:58
Speaker 1: hurts AND i think that's absolutely. Crazy and, again these
1:18:02
Speaker 1: lists and this type of discussion and, narrative it's all
1:18:04
Speaker 1: subjective in a lot of. Ways but there is proof
1:18:08
Speaker 1: in That Jalen hurts has won various playoff. Games he
1:18:12
Speaker 1: has A Super bowl, ring he has been in THE
1:18:14
Speaker 1: mvp of The Super, bowl which not a lot of
1:18:17
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league can put on their. Resume the
1:18:21
Speaker 1: craziness surrounding this, narrative it drives me. Nuts AND i
1:18:24
Speaker 1: did want to ask you what are your thoughts on
1:18:26
Speaker 1: this narrative narrative as we're like heading into this season.
1:18:30
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah i'm going to try to bite my tongue.
1:18:33
Speaker 3: HERE i was asked about this AND i on a
1:18:37
Speaker 3: radio show the other day AND i found myself yelling
1:18:40
Speaker 3: in the fact should be in the top. Five AND i,
1:18:42
Speaker 3: APOLOGIZE i, said, Listen i'm. Sorry i'm getting really worked
1:18:45
Speaker 3: up about. This that's how MUCH i believe That ertz
1:18:48
Speaker 3: is really being disrespected and. OVERLOOKED i, mean all this
1:18:52
Speaker 3: guy does is. Win he's a. Winner he's a winning.
1:18:55
Speaker 3: Quarterback it doesn't matter how it. Looks he. Wins and
1:18:59
Speaker 3: you know these guys that are ahead of, Him Justin
1:19:01
Speaker 3: herbert To Sam Justin herbert that threw four interceptions in
1:19:05
Speaker 3: the playoff lost last, year who has yet to win
1:19:08
Speaker 3: a playoff game as two of? Them Lamar, Jackson, okay good.
1:19:12
Speaker 3: Quarterback what's his playoff?
1:19:13
Speaker 2: Rger? Oh three and?
1:19:14
Speaker 3: Six, yeah, yeah it's a little. Different you, KNOW i
1:19:18
Speaker 3: was thinking about this today And Jalen hurts and what
1:19:21
Speaker 3: his signature play, is and you, Know i'll say that to,
1:19:25
Speaker 3: me this is what Makes Jalen hurts a. Winner in
1:19:27
Speaker 3: THAT nfc championship game that became a. Route there's two
1:19:31
Speaker 3: plus minutes to go in the first. Half washington just,
1:19:34
Speaker 3: scored made it fourteen to. Twelve right before, halftime The
1:19:37
Speaker 3: eagles are fourth and, five just inside, midfield and they
1:19:41
Speaker 3: go for it And hurts delivers a beautiful ball down
1:19:44
Speaker 3: the left sideline to Aj brown for a first down
1:19:46
Speaker 3: that The eagles finish in a. Touchdown, Yep that to
1:19:49
Speaker 3: me is a winning throw a winning. Quarterback Can Joe
1:19:53
Speaker 3: burrow make that throw at that? Moment Can Lamar? Jackson
1:19:57
Speaker 3: can any of these guys that are put ahead of?
1:19:59
Speaker 3: Him i'm not so, sure you. Know and we've seen
1:20:02
Speaker 3: him make big fourth down completions and a lot of
1:20:05
Speaker 3: them to A. J, brown you, know The gopher touchdowns
1:20:07
Speaker 3: or first. Downs but The eagles aren't afraid to put
1:20:09
Speaker 3: him in that. Position so you, know, listen Doubt jalen
1:20:12
Speaker 3: hurts at your own. Risk it's certainly going to be
1:20:16
Speaker 3: a chip on his shoulder for however long it, continues
1:20:18
Speaker 3: and that's probably a good thing for him and The.
1:20:20
Speaker 3: Eagles so he.
1:20:20
Speaker 1: Continues to rise to the occasion and until he's. Not you,
1:20:24
Speaker 1: Know i'm going to continue to say he's one of
1:20:26
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in this. League AND i think you would.
1:20:29
Speaker 2: Too.
1:20:30
Speaker 3: Absolutely oh, Yeah And i'm GLAD i was able to
1:20:32
Speaker 3: keep that under. Control. Yep, yeah because tell STRONGLY i
1:20:37
Speaker 3: feel about the disrespect he's. Getting you should be more.
1:20:40
Speaker 1: Respect you're a good friend of. Mine you can yell
1:20:42
Speaker 1: on this show if you want at any, point my, Friend.
1:20:44
Speaker 3: AGAIN i appreciate that he's At.
1:20:47
Speaker 1: Kratz folks Again Philadelphia eagles over on S I Si eagles,
1:20:52
Speaker 1: today my, friend thank you so much for taking the.
1:20:54
Speaker 1: Time great talking to. You i'm hoping we can connect
1:20:56
Speaker 1: at some point maybe during the, season And i'd be
1:20:59
Speaker 1: great to be about, gone my.
1:21:00
Speaker 3: Friend, yeah whenever you get down or shoot, me shoot
1:21:03
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