Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / The House Judiciary Democrats’ 53 Page Trump/Epstein Report (Part 5) (10/27/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're picking up where we
- 0:06Speaker 1: left off with the newly released Democrat report on Epstein
- 0:11Speaker 1: and Trump. Jane Doe 1, aka Jane, 14 years old.
- 0:16Speaker 1: DOJ documents released pursuant to EFTA include an allegation that
- 0:21Speaker 1: in 1994 at Mar-a-Lago, Jeffrey Epstein introduced a victim to
- 0:25Speaker 1: Trump saying, this is a good one, huh? And Trump responded, yes.
- 0:29Speaker 1: The victim was 14 years old at the time. As
- 0:33Speaker 1: made apparent when viewed in the version made available to
- 0:35Speaker 1: members of Congress, but not to the public, Jane Doe
- 0:38Speaker 1: One was viewed as a credible witness by DOJ investigators
- 0:42Speaker 1: and prosecutors, and she was one of four women to
- 0:45Speaker 1: testify against Ghislaine Maxwell during her criminal trial under the
- 0:48Speaker 1: pseudonym Jane. Jane's testimony was devastating for Maxwell's defense. She
- 0:54Speaker 1: described in detail the abuse and acts... that occurred at
- 0:58Speaker 1: Epstein's properties in Florida, New Mexico, and New York, sometimes
- 1:02Speaker 1: involving Maxwell and groups of friends. The slide deck of
- 1:05Speaker 1: prominent names in the Epstein investigation was created by the
- 1:09Speaker 1: DOJ and FBI personnel in the weeks leading up to
- 1:12Speaker 1: Todd Blanchett's interview of Maxwell and seemingly initiated in response
- 1:17Speaker 1: to a 7-10-2025 director's call. The slide deck includes a
- 1:22Speaker 1: reference to Jane's account of Trump and Epstein's conversation. Yet, strikingly,
- 1:28Speaker 1: when then-Deputy Attorney General Blanche interviewed Maxwell, ostensibly to pursue
- 1:33Speaker 1: justice wherever the facts may lead, in the Jeffrey Epstein case,
- 1:37Speaker 1: he did not ask questions at all about Jane's allegations.
- 1:41Speaker 1: In fact, when on several different occasions Maxwell proactively referenced Jane,
- 1:46Speaker 1: he quickly redirected Maxwell away from any further discussions of
- 1:49Speaker 1: Jane or her claims. In one instance, Maxwell volunteered to
- 1:54Speaker 1: Attorney General Blanche I believe you're talking about Jane, to
- 1:57Speaker 1: which he responded, yeah, indicating he was aware of her allegations. However,
- 2:02Speaker 1: as soon as Maxwell began to address that, meaning Jane's claims,
- 2:05Speaker 1: Attorney General Blanche cut her off and instructed her not
- 2:08Speaker 1: to share specifics. At various points during the interview, Attorney
- 2:12Speaker 1: General Blanche interrupted Maxwell and instructed her not to discuss
- 2:16Speaker 1: Jane's claims. For instance, saying, yeah, yeah, I don't want
- 2:20Speaker 1: to get into that. He said, she said, Maxwell responded,
- 2:24Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'm not, I don't want to go there either.
- 2:27Speaker 1: And even more explicitly, I'm not going to do that.
- 2:31Speaker 1: At another point, Maxwell again raises Jane on her own,
- 2:34Speaker 1: and Attorney General Blanch abruptly cuts in saying, pointedly, let's
- 2:39Speaker 1: not talk about individuals. The whole point of the conversation
- 2:43Speaker 1: was not to uncover information, but to create a conspiracy
- 2:46Speaker 1: of silence and strategically deter Ghislaine Maxwell from sharing information
- 2:50Speaker 1: that was not public at the time regarding the relationship
- 2:53Speaker 1: between Trump and Epstein. Attorney General Blanch's actions, while perhaps
- 2:58Speaker 1: not surprising, given his former role as Donald Trump's defense attorney,
- 3:03Speaker 1: potentially constituted witness tampering and obstruction of an official proceeding,
- 3:07Speaker 1: serious felonies. At the time of this interview, the House
- 3:11Speaker 1: Oversight Committee had scheduled an interview with Maxwell for August 11th,
- 3:15Speaker 1: less than two weeks later. Blanch, apparent instruction not to
- 3:19Speaker 1: discuss a specific Epstein victim and how that victim could
- 3:22Speaker 1: implicate Donald Trump, could easily run afoul of U.S. 18
- 3:26Speaker 1: Code 1512, which forbids hindering or delaying the communication of
- 3:31Speaker 1: information relating to the potential commission of a federal offense
- 3:35Speaker 1: to a law enforcement officer, as well as corruptly influencing
- 3:38Speaker 1: the testimony of any person in an official proceeding, such
- 3:43Speaker 1: a congressional interview and investigation. Similarly, 18 U.S. Code Section
- 3:48Speaker 1: 1505 forbids corruptly influencing, obstructing, or impeding any pending proceeding
- 3:54Speaker 1: before Congress. A crime which would almost certainly encompass indicating
- 3:59Speaker 1: to a witness that they should not provide Congress with
- 4:02Speaker 1: specific information that would implicate the President of the United States.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Jane Doe No. 2, a.k.a. Katie Johnson, 13 years old.
- 4:12Speaker 1: In April of 2016, a woman identified by the pseudonym
- 4:16Speaker 1: Katie Johnson filed a lawsuit against accusing Donald Trump of
- 4:19Speaker 1: raping and sexually assaulting her on multiple occasions in 94
- 4:23Speaker 1: when she was 13 at a Jeffrey Epstein party in
- 4:26Speaker 1: New York. She reported that, as a minor, she was
- 4:29Speaker 1: asked to strip down to her underwear and give a
- 4:32Speaker 1: massage to Epstein and massage the penis of Epstein's guest, Trump,
- 4:36Speaker 1: with her hands. She also reported that Epstein and Trump
- 4:40Speaker 1: argued over who would take her virginity and Epstein became
- 4:43Speaker 1: angry and violently raped her when he learned that Donald
- 4:46Speaker 1: Trump had done so. as shown by the official FBI
- 4:50Speaker 1: interview notes, Johnson, through her attorney, reported these alleged crimes
- 4:54Speaker 1: in detail to the FBI. Notably, the FBI case agent
- 4:58Speaker 1: responsible for the interview ran an internal FBI search that
- 5:02Speaker 1: indicated Trump and Epstein were linked by a common investigative case.
- 5:06Speaker 1: According to this agent, a search for Trump and Epstein
- 5:09Speaker 1: regarding exploitation of minors produced a specific case number that
- 5:14Speaker 1: that is one of several associated with Epstein's 2000 criminal
- 5:18Speaker 1: federal investigation. Sources within the Trump administration confirm that a
- 5:22Speaker 1: number of documents linked to the case have been withheld
- 5:25Speaker 1: from Congress and the public. Two facts reinforce the credibility
- 5:30Speaker 1: of Johnson's claims. First, at the time of Johnson's statement
- 5:34Speaker 1: to the FBI, Jeffrey Epstein was not yet the infamous
- 5:38Speaker 1: public figure he was to become. Thus, if Johnson had
- 5:41Speaker 1: fabricated the incident in an attempt to embarrass Donald Trump politically,
- 5:45Speaker 1: as President Trump's campaign claimed, it's unclear why she would
- 5:48Speaker 1: have made Epstein the primary and slightly more violent perpetrator
- 5:52Speaker 1: in her account. Second, Johnson's extensive account of how she
- 5:57Speaker 1: was forced to give sexualized massages to Epstein matches accounts
- 6:01Speaker 1: given by other survivors, including many, that only became public
- 6:06Speaker 1: information much later. Maria Farmer, 25 years old. Maria Farmer
- 6:12Speaker 1: and her sister Annie Farmer were abused by Epstein in
- 6:14Speaker 1: the 90s. Maria Farmer, Epstein's former assistant, recounted an incident
- 6:19Speaker 1: in which she went to meet Epstein at his New
- 6:22Speaker 1: York office. There was no light on in the office
- 6:24Speaker 1: when she arrived, and while she was waiting for Epstein,
- 6:27Speaker 1: a tall, imposing man in a business suit, Donald Trump,
- 6:31Speaker 1: came into the room and approached her while she was
- 6:33Speaker 1: seated against a wall. According to Farmer, Trump stood over
- 6:37Speaker 1: her in a very imposing way, smirking at her, like
- 6:40Speaker 1: he was in on some secret. Epstein then emerged from
- 6:44Speaker 1: the office laughing and saying, no, no, she's not here
- 6:47Speaker 1: for you. Epstein escorted Trump to another room, leading Farmer
- 6:51Speaker 1: to suspect that there was another girl in that office
- 6:54Speaker 1: who was potentially there for sexual purposes, causing Donald Trump
- 6:58Speaker 1: to confuse her for that girl. As the two men
- 7:01Speaker 1: left the room where Trump had oogled her, Farmer overheard
- 7:04Speaker 1: Trump comment, oh, I thought she was 16, although she
- 7:08Speaker 1: was in her 20s at the time. Said Farmer, it
- 7:11Speaker 1: felt very predatory. Farmer's sister was 15 at the time.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Epstein later told Farmer that he had inherited Donald Trump
- 7:20Speaker 1: in his divorce from Ivana, saying it's well known amongst
- 7:24Speaker 1: the staff that they were best friends. Trump would often
- 7:27Speaker 1: appear at Epstein's office during this time. Farmer's accusation led
- 7:31Speaker 1: Donald Trump's communication director to falsely claim that Trump was
- 7:35Speaker 1: never in Epstein's office. a statement definitively contradicted by the
- 7:39Speaker 1: recollection of numerous individuals associated with Epstein. Farmer reported her
- 7:46Speaker 1: abuse to the FBI in 1996 and again in 2006,
- 7:50Speaker 1: relaying concerns about Donald Trump in both instances. Her reports
- 7:54Speaker 1: to FBI appear to be unlawfully omitted from the files
- 7:58Speaker 1: released by DOJ pursuant to EFTA. This is a recurring issue.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Independent researchers have identified missing FD-302s and are mentioned in
- 8:08Speaker 1: evidence and discovery logs for Maxwell's trial, but have not
- 8:12Speaker 1: been produced to the public. For instance, CBS News determined
- 8:16Speaker 1: that over 70% of the roughly 5,000 documents listed in
- 8:20Speaker 1: one such index, including FD-302s, cannot be located through searches
- 8:25Speaker 1: of the released archives. Jane Doe No. 3, aka Kate,
- 8:28Speaker 1: 20 years old. DOJ documents released pursuant to EFTA indicate
- 8:35Speaker 1: that a young woman was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein
- 8:37Speaker 1: and Glenn Maxwell's crimes and was repeatedly introduced to older
- 8:42Speaker 1: men by Maxwell. As made apparent by other documents, Jane
- 8:45Speaker 1: Doe 3 was, like Jane Doe 1, viewed as a
- 8:48Speaker 1: credible witness by DOJ investigators and prosecutors. She was one
- 8:52Speaker 1: of four women to testify against Maxwell during her criminal
- 8:56Speaker 1: trial under the pseudonym Kate. While her official FBI interview
- 9:00Speaker 1: shows Forum is heavily redacted by DOJ. It shows that
- 9:04Speaker 1: Kate was introduced by Maxwell to Donald Trump with a
- 9:07Speaker 1: clear understanding that she was available for sex. The FBI
- 9:11Speaker 1: notes state Maxwell took Kate to a party in New York.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Maxwell seemed very excited that there would be a lot
- 9:17Speaker 1: of great men for Kate to meet, including Donald Trump.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Maxwell allegedly presented Kate to Trump and they had a
- 9:24Speaker 1: conversation for approximately 20 minutes before she was invited to Mar-a-Lago,
- 9:29Speaker 1: where she was given a tour by Trump with Epstein
- 9:31Speaker 1: and Maxwell present. Although Kate does not explicitly claim any
- 9:35Speaker 1: misconduct by Trump, Maxwell repeatedly made clear that Kate was
- 9:38Speaker 1: available to Donald Trump, saying things like, Oh, I think
- 9:42Speaker 1: he likes you. Aren't you lucky? This is great. Kate
- 9:46Speaker 1: stated that this was just like how Maxwell introduced Kate
- 9:49Speaker 1: to Epstein. Kate has consistently held that Maxwell appeared to
- 9:53Speaker 1: be attempting to traffic her to Trump in the same
- 9:56Speaker 1: way that she was trafficked to Epstein. In 2025, she's
- 10:00Speaker 1: that Maxwell did introduce me to Trump and she introduced
- 10:03Speaker 1: him to me with a clear message of my being
- 10:05Speaker 1: with him in the same way that she had trafficked
- 10:08Speaker 1: me and brought me to Jeffrey. Other documents in the
- 10:11Speaker 1: Epstein files further establish and elaborate on the relationship between
- 10:15Speaker 1: Maxwell and Kate and Trump. In an email dated December 15, 2020,
- 10:21Speaker 1: Maureen Comey, one of the lead DOJ prosecutors on the
- 10:25Speaker 1: Epstein matter, summarized a call she had with Brad Edwards,
- 10:28Speaker 1: Kate's attorney. The purpose of the call appears to have
- 10:31Speaker 1: been for Edwards to provide corroborating sources for individuals who
- 10:35Speaker 1: could vouch for the connection between Kate and Maxwell. One
- 10:39Speaker 1: was Alan Dershowitz, another Donald Trump, with the notes indicating
- 10:43Speaker 1: that GM set Kate up on a date with him.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Other names, including the men who knew about the relationship
- 10:49Speaker 1: between Kate and Maxwell, are improperly redacted. Troublingly, Kate's relationship
- 10:55Speaker 1: with Donald Trump and their connection through Maxwell were covered
- 10:58Speaker 1: extensively in 1997 as a matter of tabloid gossip by
- 11:01Speaker 1: the Daily Mirror, which actually referred to Kate by her
- 11:04Speaker 1: real name. An article at the time reported how America's
- 11:08Speaker 1: best-known billionaire, Donald Trump, had fallen under the spell of
- 11:12Speaker 1: a 20-year-old English girl. The tabloid details how several American
- 11:16Speaker 1: millionaires already had their eyes on Kate when she attended
- 11:19Speaker 1: a party with Robert Maxwell's daughter, Ghislaine, who has introduced
- 11:23Speaker 1: several of her attractive friends to the property developer. The
- 11:27Speaker 1: use of the plural Maxwell has introduced several of her
- 11:31Speaker 1: attractive friends to the property developer is significant and revealing
- 11:35Speaker 1: given that this introduction occurred at the apparent height of
- 11:38Speaker 1: the Epstein-Maxwell sex trafficking operation. So too is the account
- 11:42Speaker 1: of what came next. Trump flew Madame Maxwell and the
- 11:46Speaker 1: Model South to the Sunshine State, where all three enjoyed
- 11:50Speaker 1: a happy weekend together. When they returned to New York,
- 11:53Speaker 1: Kate was installed in one of Donald's many apartments there.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Kate has publicly shared significant information about her relationship with Epstein,
- 12:02Speaker 1: which spanned several years, and locales. As related in interviews,
- 12:06Speaker 1: in addition to the estate on his private island, Kate
- 12:09Speaker 1: said Epstein preyed on her at his homes in New
- 12:12Speaker 1: York and Paris. And in every location, there was the
- 12:15Speaker 1: microcosm of acceptance of yes people who acted like this
- 12:19Speaker 1: was normal. She stated by the time Epstein began to
- 12:22Speaker 1: rape her, it was too late. Kate has not spoken
- 12:25Speaker 1: publicly about her relationship with Donald Trump. But this much
- 12:29Speaker 1: is clear from the FBI interview and corroborating public sources.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell abused Kate. Around this time,
- 12:37Speaker 1: Maxwell then decided to introduce Kate as well as several
- 12:40Speaker 1: other young women to Donald Trump. Immediately after this introduction,
- 12:45Speaker 1: Trump flew both Maxwell and Kate to Florida and put
- 12:47Speaker 1: Kate up in a Trump property. In short, Maxwell certainly
- 12:52Speaker 1: appeared to be treating Donald Trump as if he were
- 12:54Speaker 1: a participant in the sex trafficking operation. All right, we're
- 12:58Speaker 1: going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode,
- 13:01Speaker 1: we're going to pick up with Jane Doe number four,
- 13:02Speaker 1: 13 years old. All the information that goes with this
- 13:06Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box.