Latest / Trudge Report / Ep. 135 - Waking Up To The Real World: Memorable Moments In Early Sobriety & NFL Season Preview.

Transcript

Ep. 135 - Waking Up To The Real World: Memorable Moments In Early Sobriety & NFL Season Preview. · Trudge Report

• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to another episode of Trudge Report.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_01: This is a recovery-based podcast.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: My name is Sean, and I am your host, joined by my good friends and fellow Trudgers.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, please remember to listen on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you may get your podcast.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: You can watch and see our beautiful faces on YouTube and Facebook each week, but please be sure to download on your listening platforms.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: This podcast is brought to you by Stellamix Podcast Management.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, gentlemen, uh the inmates are running the asylum tonight.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_01: No babysitter, no chaperone.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, Janine, producer Janine, is out.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so the boys are in charge.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: The boys are back in town, some might say, right, Corey.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, whatever.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: And we're here.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: We're kicking it to you, Corey.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_01: Full Eagles garb.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_01: He's excited.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's finally football season.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: We've been we've been keeping him quiet for months and months and months.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he finally gets to cook tonight.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_01: Corey Mitchner, how are you this evening?
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm fine.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really tired.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really tired.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: I did more yard work this this weekend than I've done in the past two years.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's not it's not a good sight.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a pretty sight.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to see it.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I did it, and things are looking good.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: What's not a pretty sight?
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_02: You or the lawn?
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Both.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: But both both me doing the lawn.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_03: What is uh what is the Corey Missioner uh lawn work attire?
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think it was much like my regular attire, like t-shirt, basketball shorts.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: His keys hanging out of his own.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: These were Reebok.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_00: These were Reebok shorts.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're real nice, dude.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: But I wear them everywhere too.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it's it's it's not much different.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I wear my shitty pair of sunglasses when I do that.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to scuff up the already scuffed new ones.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: So I get in full, I get in full, I get like sweatpants, full long sleeve shirt, I get the big brimmed hat.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the big brimmed hat, the sunglasses, the earbuds.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm covered head to toe.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm I'm I'm a cut-off jorts kind of guy.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: And when I say cut-off, I'm talking about a five-inch insane boys.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a nice, nice stained up pair of new balances.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: Or or if you can get the Velcro still, I don't know.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the thing.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: I would get a pair.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: I would get a pair for yard work, but they're like expensive or something.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: I like what what the fuck?
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: I thought all the dads used to get them because they were cheap.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, a little bit.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean they're late 90%.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_02: Is what you need.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, geez.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um what else did I want to tell you guys?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: I want to tell you guys something.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm burning the candle at both ends.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's for sure, work-wise.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's I don't that's as much as I don't want to talk about it.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but it's I'll I'll live.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'll live.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Happy Labor Day.
• 3:15
  unknown: Yeah.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have to labor on this day?
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: I worked a little bit and I'll probably work a little bit after this, but not but not a whole lot.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we went swimming today with uh with Sarah and Carter and uh rolled some shit in our house and whatnot.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, dude.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: What is Labor Day, dude?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is oh by the way, also this, okay.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Let me just I'm gonna I'm just gonna I don't need anybody.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna get we don't get political on this podcast, but I don't need anybody telling me that we have too many fucking holidays off in this country, let alone the present.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: But that being said, I don't know exactly what Labor Day's for.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_00: It does seem like a little bit of a gimme.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's totally a gimmick.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh like help me guys, it's kind of a it's a day back for the working people.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean I I mean with like when good things happen, you don't ask why.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it's fine.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want I don't want I don't not want it, but you know, if you find out if you find out why you might not want it.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Originated in the in the late 19th century as a celebration of American workers' contributions, first observed with the parade in New York City in 1882.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Corey, if for your uneducated ass, that's the beginning of the industrial fucking revolution.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: So all right, they were working a whole lot harder back then, you know.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_02: So so we just keep it.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: We just keep a lot of yard work.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: Keep it going, dude.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_02: We keep it in honor, in honor of all those with the black lung, okay?
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_03: So now that we know why all the people without jobs can't celebrate it.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, listen, I'm not I'm not gonna complain about an extra day off of work.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: Never, never I'm ready for Juneteenth, man.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: When when when are the real businesses gonna start closing for Juneteenth?
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all the the the banks do it.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was a that was a controversial one at at my my company this past year.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Apparently, la I won't disclose, we're not gonna talk about what what company I work for, but apparently last year uh my boss walked in and everybody was working on Juneteenth, and he said, What the fuck are we doing here?
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_00: All the banks are closed, we should just all go home.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, well, you didn't give us off.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then this year who had off, and he was yeah, and then this year we did have off.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, the week of, he was like, What the fuck are we taking off for?
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't we take off another holiday?
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, So all right.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, glad you're here, glad you're present.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: Don't work too hard.
• 6:07
  unknown: Mr.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: Phillips, what's up?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I said enough.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: First off, no, I'm just kidding.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: Moving on.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you do today?
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: We're good, man.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_02: We're good.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_02: It was a it was a nice weekend with the family, a nice little extended weekend.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: Can't complain.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um Peyton got some sports in.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we went to uh the Indians game on wait, Saturday night.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this extended weekends mess me up.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: Saturday night we went uh to the Indians game and uh we weren't in our usual seats, which are which are very pampered and very nice.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I think I've shared photos of it, but they're like right down your home plate.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: So it was like a bummer walking in, seeing it on our tickets.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, we're not in our normal spot.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: Turns out, dude, we were in we were in the club level, and all the food was free.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: I did not spend a dime.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_02: I did not spend a dime.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: And when I'm talking about all the food was free, walk up pizza.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_02: How'd you get that?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: Pork chops.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: It was just the ticket, it was the ticket that we got.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean a ticket?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_02: So Lauren's Lauren's dad gets season tickets.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Got it.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and I think what happened was is this game um was a makeup game from a rain game or whatever, and so somehow that mess with the tickets, bumped it into club level, did not pay a dime the entire time.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: They did not know who they were messing with because I ate about three people worth of food.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um dude, and I'm talking about like ice cream bars, ice cream sandwiches, the strawberry shortcake.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: Love pops you could go up, you get you just had a pile of them.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_02: You just go up and take as many as you wanted, dude.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: It was crazy, awesome.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we lost, so that was great too.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: But um, especially uh when every game counts at this point for for my squad at least.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um Sean and Dan, I think you guys are pretty well locked in at this point.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: But uh we beat the Braves today.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_01: We we split two games apiece.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: We had a four-game set with the Phillies.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: We split two games apiece, so but we see him again.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: We see him again at the end of the week back home.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: Fake news.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're locked in most likely to to the playoffs, but I want to win the division.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I want to make sure the Phillies win the division.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: Me too.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_03: I think I think when Judge comes back, we're gonna we're gonna cook out the judges.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: They they said tonight.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's yeah, he's back.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think we're gonna we're gonna cook out the rest of the season, man.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm really I'm really pumped for it.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: The pitchers, everybody, we're we're looking good, man.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be it's gonna be exciting.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: Is uh is Bellinger back yet?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's back.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: He's he's good, yeah.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: He's good.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: He's he's such he's such a good hitter against lefties.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then Stanton's supposed to come back at some point.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but he's whatever at this point.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you just get him back for the playoffs, man.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let him get a few DHs, you know.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_03: The the young kids are stepping up, Spencer Jones.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_03: I want Gersham gone off the team.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_03: He stinks.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: We'll get Spencer Jones cooking.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: Speaking of which, Danny P, how are you?
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we're good, man.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_03: We're good.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: We're uh in Connecticut right now.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: I can tell by the uh weird backdrop and fan that I had to stop because it was freaking me out in the camera.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, yeah, man.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_03: I had a great weekend with my son and my boy, and as you guys know, just some heavy stuff going on, man, and a lot of life stuff, and uh a lot of you know the the this disease being present in life and and feeling the weight of it.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_03: And um, just I'm super grateful right now, man.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_03: Just on all levels, all fronts for you guys, for my life, for everything that's going on, and um, yeah, having Maya and Danny together.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_03: We had uh uh we went to the campground with my uh cousin and we had a big old softball game, and everybody was hitting and pitching, and you know, it was yeah, it was a great time and by the water, throwing the football.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, my family's good, you know.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: Alyssa's doing good working, she's uh back home working nights.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, me and Maya came by ourselves.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and uh yeah, I mean, otherwise everything's good, man.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_03: Just a lot of life, a lot of life stuff.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pumped up though for this.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pumped up for playoff baseball is about to be coming, football season.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, this time of year is like awesome.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_03: And then college basketball is right around the corner, baby.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like all this stuff's coming.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_03: But uh yeah, I'm just uh I really am on a super plane of gratitude uh right now, man, sitting here like I really am grateful for you boys and everything, and ready to cook, baby.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do this.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I gotta say, Dan, I saw your Facebook post and like uh with the video of you and your son playing basketball.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Teared up a little bit.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't help the song that you chose to have in the background.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_04: I know, dude.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_04: I'm notably.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: But um, man, I don't know.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, is that because you don't think you'll ever beat Noah in basketball, Corey?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Is that there's that there's first off, that he's not gonna play basketball.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: He we don't have the genetics at all.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_02: But um was was the song chosen stunting like my daddy?
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: Or no, no, it was a missed opportunity there, Dan.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: No, but I I just gotta say, dude, it's fucking like sometimes you have those moments where you see something or what and I know that was a moment for you, but like it was it was even a little bit of a moment for me, like seeing the video and just thinking, like, God, how how far you know, uh everything's coming.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: I remember when like back when I met you, he was like four, you know.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, bro.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, and that's like cool.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're making me water up, so you you you initiated, bro.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: That was on purpose.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: You're trying to make me cry on air.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: You gave us a warning, yeah, yeah.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, like like seriously, dude, like sitting, you know, with my son, having honest conversations, being sober about this stuff, too, and explaining this stuff to him.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you guys like just like how freaking cool that is, and for him to understand, and like, you know, I mean things he's you know, like if be here and do this, and this is why where like Corey, like Corey just said, man, like before it was just kind of like you know, daddy wasn't there and there's no reasoning or nothing.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Where I he knows the whole recourse of everything now.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: I can tell him what I went through and you know why I had to go through it, and like all that stuff that makes sense to him now and has made our relationship so freaking strong, man.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like it's like it's freaking amazing, dude.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna lose it, so I'm gonna shut down right now.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: But like so, like so, just amazing, dude.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's super cool.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for saying that, Corey.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just had to bring that up, man.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's that's actually a really good segue into what the topic is tonight.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: So did you a little bit different Sean?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: Huh?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: Did you say what you did?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: Did you say I'm good?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: I got no complaints.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have any problems, Corey.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: All is well over here.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: Can I interrupt the segue real quick one more time?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Why not?
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's like when it's like when you're it wouldn't be the Trudge Report podcast without it.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like when everybody's sharing and you already shared, and it's like fuck I should have said that.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Listen, that's my real real quick shout out.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: This this is a hard transition right here.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I found a very comparable cheesesteak in Vera Beach, Florida.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_00: And I already mentioned it to you guys or whatever, but I gotta put a shout-out to Liberty Pizza and Stakes, 17th Street, Vero Beach, Florida.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Sean, the other guys aren't gonna.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, maybe one day you guys will come down.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you're gonna fly for a cheesesteak, you may as well go to Philly.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Sean, you need to go try it.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: I will.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: I've had it twice.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Twice.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Very comparable, competitive in Philly if they were up there.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, you don't give a fuck, do you?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's I know I do.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm up there.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'll I'll I'll go check it out.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm up there for work a couple times a month.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, totally ruined the transition, though.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: But hey, wouldn't wouldn't be wouldn't be TRP.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can make Dan cry again if you want.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, Dan, to your point of like living this way of life and this sober life and being able to sit down and have honest conversations with our kids to show up for our kids and our loved ones, especially in in your time in need.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: And for those who know, they know, and we your prayers are our prayers are with your family and those specific people in your family.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: But so tonight's a little different.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna we're gonna do recovery on the front end, and then uh football season starts.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Guys, football starts on Wednesday.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_03: Did you guys know that?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: I thought I thought it was Thursday.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't know they went away Wednesday, yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: And Thursday.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Wednesday and Thursday, dude.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Wednesday and Thursday.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so we're gonna do football on the back half of the show.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: So for all of our our valued loyal listeners, Suzanne McDonald, that doesn't really care for our sports talk.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, mom, you can hear the recovery portion on the front end, and then we're gonna switch to uh football talk, and you can just turn it off if you want at that point.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um but um the idea tonight, and Dan, you had a perfect segue uh until Corey ruined it, was like three experiences in our recovery that really truly had like a big impact on us.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Now that can be it can be people we met, conversations we had, events that took place, just experiences we had, um, opportunities we had.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, did I say people we met?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people we met.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: It can be early sobriety, it can be middle sobriety, it can be later in sobriety, whatever the case may be.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and they don't even have to be like necessarily a quote good experience.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: It could be something that seemed kind of tragic or bad initially, but maybe we learned something from it or something good came out of it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what I'd like to do is go around one by one.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: So each of us do our first one, then our second one, or our third one.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I'll I'll kick it off just since it was it was, you know, since I'm already going.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh just like stuff that was really impactful.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was this is gonna seem kind of stupid, but I was probably two months sober and I was at a recovery group, and I was at a recovery group on a Sunday evening because um let me put it this way there was another recovery group on Sunday evening where there was a lot of like pretty girls at and like young people, and I wasn't allowed to go to that one because the guy that managed my halfway house, he knew that I wouldn't be able to stay focused, most likely.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: Or let's just say most guys my age trying to get sober have a hard time staying focused at a meeting like that.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and maybe the only reason we go to it isn't necessarily for the content of the meeting, but it's to uh, as he would say, play grab ass.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was still so new that I don't think I would have had the courage to play grab ass, but I definitely wanted to go because of like not of because of the recovery content, but because of the girls.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: So he made me go to a different recovery group that focused on medit prayer meditation.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: That was their main focus.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's still around today, that that that group.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I was about two months sober, and I was helping clean up, I was right in that phase of like some people were starting to get to know who I was because I was showing up constantly and like they knew my name and they would see me and you know all that.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I was helping clean up after the meeting.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: And uh a guy who is still sober today, that I still see frequently, that I I I look up to um to a certain degree, and I've learned a lot from.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: He turned to his then significant other who has since passed away, R I P, um, and he said, and I won't say her name, but he said, Oh, look, so and so, Sean's doing service, he's helping clean up.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: He just might stay sober.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: But he said it in a way that was like, A, he knew my name, um, which was cool.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I know again that sounds cheesy, but early on, like I kind of I kind of desperately needed that.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: But the acknowledgement that I was like doing something right in sobriety, I was like like doing service, and he was more or less acknowledging, like, hey, this kid's just not going out to get a quick cigarette as soon as the meeting's over.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: He's actually staying behind, he cares, he's doing service, he might just stay sober.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that was that was huge for me.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: And like again, seems small, but one of those lasting kind of memories.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: So GA, I'll kick it to you.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I would say um, you know, keeping it, keeping it general, I guess uh you would say is like meeting each one of you guys, and and and not just each one of you guys, but like certainly a a couple other people.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, when you find people that that make you feel like home and and feel you know like you're a part of and and you're not like lost and spinning around uh like a top in the world, uh, you know, that that that was huge for me, still is.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um Sean, obviously, I remember meeting you uh in a in a early morning meeting, um still shot out of a cannon at that point.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh definitely uh Dan.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: I remember uh meeting you for the first time coming around the the halfway house while you were trying to um uh set set a certain Russian fellow uh on the right path, you know.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and yeah, and just you know, like both of you guys very down to earth at the beginning, and and um you know, it just felt kindred almost, you know.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: And the I don't I don't even actually remember meeting Corey.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh maybe that's my old age getting to me.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um we just appeared in each other's lives one day.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: But that's the thing, yeah, dude.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then it and it's like, yeah, you you meet this person, you don't even remember meeting him, but then it's like I feel like I've known this dude my whole life, you know, and we can just BS about whatever uh at any time, and you know, certainly Bill and Brian and well I've known you for a third of mine.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: That is that is true.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: That is true.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um that's wild, dude.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: Is that crazy?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't that nuts?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but yeah, man, just the the the brotherhood is it was is and continues to be um so influential for me.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um because I just I don't know, man.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I don't even keep keep close track with friends I had, you know, that that I've I mean and and that's not to say that they're not important to me.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, I talked to my best friend um from high school who I was the best man at his wedding, you know, um not just just the other day, and I still love him to death, but it it's just it's not the same, dude.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you have the the brotherhood that we have, you know, it's like yeah, it we we may have met a decade ago, but it feels like we've known each other since we were kids.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: Danny P.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, I love that, Greg.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's I mean that's so important, it really is.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, my mine is uh Mr.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: BD, man.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I I'll never forget, you know, like we've talked about it before when I got all that money, man.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know, because like you had all these people from these meetings and stuff like that, you know, that like people cared about you, but when you went home, you went home, and you know, no one like extended, you know what I mean.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like you have your mentors, you know, but like really honestly, like that's kind of where it ended.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: And then me and Corey would sit on the porch, smoke cigarettes, and talk BS the rest of the night, you know.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so when you left that atmosphere, it was good.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: But me, you know what I mean?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: I was driving around, I went and bought a whole bunch of new clothes and all this stuff.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_03: And for him to have the, you know what I mean, the care to think that he should call me to make sure that I'm okay, and to make sure to that he would say, Hey, why don't you come to a meeting tonight?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: And a hundred percent I would have not gone to that meeting that night.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: And that could be, it could be or it could not be, you know, but like that's just like a thing where I felt loved and and that phone call like extended that whole everything to me, where it was like, you know what I mean, like, man, like these guys really, really care.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like, this is like, you know, really like a camaraderie thing.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it's like the same thing Greg was saying.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: But like I felt really loved in that, like, you know, like it's whatever it takes, man.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm like?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, oh well, I have to go because I don't want to let him down.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: But that like he just kept growing and growing and all that stuff's growing.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, definitely Brian called me and be like, you know, like, how about you come and have meeting tonight, you know, and and don't go, you know what I mean?
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_03: Go spend all your money somewhere and have some fun just for you.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: It was pretty cool.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: He do you think he did that because he knew who your mentor was and he was concerned for you?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: He thought we were both.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: He probably called both of us.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Probably.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta keep an eye on these guys.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: He had he had firsthand experience in almost the exact same situation, you know?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Because he mentored your mentor.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um Corey.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, now I'm nervous.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um you are terrible, bro.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Why what am I terrible at?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Besides fucking everything.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um I would think my mental my negative self-talk I give myself every day.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: So positive.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: I think I have a few written down, obviously.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm gonna pick this one.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: My my first mentor.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh meeting him, I mean it's kind of obvious for us, especially that kind of know the ins and outs of our lives and our recovery, but but even specifically, um you know, we we've explained our our processes before on this podcast, and and one of them was uh putting pen to paper and uh uh listing out our resentments and fears and such.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, there there's a a part of that where we discuss those things with our mentor, and um I went and did that very fearful and and just full of anxiety and everything.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: And in fact, I was very well uh convinced that I was going to not share everything that I needed to uh with my mentor.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: And he shared a a lot of the uh deep and dark secrets or what have you of of his life with me uh prior to and it made me feel a lot more comfortable.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: And it's one of those things that like if you I guess it's kind of the point of our topic tonight, is like you have these moments that that you kind of attribute to like that kept me here or or that propelled me in in sobriety or whatever.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: That was like one of the first ones.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: And not only that coupled with just meeting him in general, like he's not even sober anymore.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think he's living an okay life.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't know any different.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so whatever that means is what that means, but um but I'm like super and but I will say actually I saw him a couple of years ago, maybe a few more than a couple at this point.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: And even though he hadn't he hadn't been sober for years, he was very like interested in what I was still doing in recovery, and that I thought was interesting, and I was actually happy to uh kind of talk to him about it.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: But um, he was who I needed in in the beginning, a hundred percent.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like he was like a little shithead like I was, you know what I mean?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: It w it it he wasn't somebody that had like had their everything figured out or anything like that, like wasn't driving like a super nice car, he was driving a piece of shit, Chevy, yeah, big time, big time jump.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like uh it wasn't all figured out yet, but like he had obviously began to like form a life that he enjoyed and seemed comfortable in and stuff like that.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it was it was very much what I needed, you know.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: So well, and I think to that point there that the some of the there are certain things like you said, meeting our mentors, certain experience with our mentors, you know, that that we could easily throw in there, you know.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but some of those impact some of that stuff does really have a lasting impact, you know, and it's important.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my second one is I was living with my mentor because after halfway I got an offer for to go live at his his home.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Corey, I would never let you live at my home, just so you know.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um such a good roommate, F Dan.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Matt, you probably are, but um I hear you don't fold laundry correctly.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: I can't have that.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um I was uh over a year sober, or or I was at least seven months sober.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: I was anywhere from like seven months to a year sober.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I was living in my mentor's house.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: I woke up from an afternoon nap one day.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was working in the restaurant industry and I had the day off.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I woke up from like a late afternoon nap, was gonna go to a meeting, and I walk out into the living room and uh I hear the voice of a very good friend of mine and my mentors.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_01: He was more a friend of my mentors, but he became a very good friend of mine and um also who has passed away, RIP.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: I won't mention his name, but he was a gentleman from New York, a little bit older, probably in his 40s, and he was drunk as a skunk.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: And this guy had the um, he would he he would put multiple, we think he would put multiple years of sobriety together.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: So he was a really good guy and really, really cool and fun to be around, but also we think he was like completely full of shit, if that makes any sense.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was very uh cryptic on how long he actually had sober, like there were certain times he would he would insinuate long, long term and then not so long.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So we we really weren't sure.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um so he was like really full of shit, but at this point he had what we thought like close to like eight years of sobriety, and he got drunk, and he somehow ended up at my mentor's house, and I learned how to detox someone from the confines of a home, not sending them to a detox, not swiping an insurance card, but there was, and I'll shout these guys out, Lyle, R.I.P.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Lyle, a lot of dead people on this on this podcast tonight, but in a good way, dead in a good way.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the guy that I'm speaking of from New York, he he died of ultimately alcoholism, but uh Lyle was there.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, a guy named Mike R was there, and my mentor and my mentor's son, who was sober at the time, and I sat and watched as these guys taught me how to detox someone.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: I got to go to the store with Lyle and Mike and buy uh a bottle of wild Irish rose, um some rock cut liquor, and I watched and learned as they gave him like four ounces at a time every like hour or two or whatever, uh, or started out at a certain ounce and weaned him down, and he stayed at our house for like two full days and we detoxed him.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he did stay sober to our knowledge for a I think we think a few more years after that experience, um, when ultimately he continued to relapse over and over.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_01: And um, as a matter of fact, Brian Beattie and I had to go to his house once because we were going on a um on a call to try to help him, and he literally we could hear him stumbling around inside, and he was so drunk he fell and he hit, he fell into his front door and like rattled it off its hinges.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: He lived in like a trailer home.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but that was a huge experience for me.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like I like watching that whole experience, watching these other guys like Lyle and my mentor and Butchie and all them work and do what they were doing and like talk with him and and handle him with extreme compassion because he was drunk, he'd get a little, you know, wise ass remarks, stuff like that, never violent or anything like that, but he was a big dude.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then when he sobbered up like two days later, and he was ready to go home.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I remember sitting on the bed of my mentor's truck with him and talking about a piece of our recovery literature.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: And here's the thing he was extremely knowledgeable about he was one of those, he was like extremely knowledgeable about our literature.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Some might say dangerously knowledgeable about it.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, where he could talk the talk, but he he truly like revolutionized a few things in our literature for me that helped me understand certain things.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: So just an honestly an amazing experience, albeit you know, a fellow brother suffering, but really truly a game-changing experience for me.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: So back to you, Greg.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we've talked about it uh countless, countless times on on this podcast, but the amends process, not just the initial.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the initial was very, very powerful.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um, for me coming back home, being uh around my grandmother that was getting ready to pass on, making those initial amends to not only her, but my mom, my sister, my mother's husband, my grandparents, uh, you know, um, even trying to reach out to my own father, even though ultimately that didn't work, uh, that didn't go over too well.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, as as everybody well knows, making uh the amends to my employer, um, my previous employer, and not winding up in prison um was also uh a massive um uh weight lifted off my shoulders.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and you know, and the beginning of of what that financial amends process looked like and everything like that.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_02: But I think uh overall what that's that's taught me and what it continues to teach me is a lot of things.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: Certainly um you know what it means to to hold myself accountable and be held accountable by other people, um is is uh such an important part of life, I think that's and and certainly as a man too.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think that it has taught me um how to uh uh fail and get back up and keep going.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um and that's happened countless times over the last decade.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's taught me how to be present in my family's lives, and you know, I I think um, you know, the the most important thing in in all that is is the the freedom that it gives me, right?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: Because because bad days can happen, but I don't drink, I don't pick up, and that's just how it is.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Danny P.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean my number two is moving to Ohio and uh the the presence of a sad day for all of us around here.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sad day.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: I inherited the Russian, thanks a lot.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nobody will solve that, Ruby's.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Both of you fuckers left me, dude.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Completely abandoned over here, all right.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: But um making that decision, man.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Because obviously Alyssa was pregnant and it was like, you know, I got I got a kid in another state already, you know, she's going back for she's gonna do her thing, so I'm about to double state it.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: I got a great job here.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, in my head, as an I don't mean I think it was what was I a year, a year and change or something at that point, whatever.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: And like my head's like, just I don't even know what to do, man.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, like, what do I even do?
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like, uh like I'm gonna travel to two states, or what you know, like it just like you know, things were starting to fall in place in Florida, so I can stay in the easy, comfortable environment, stay sober in my groups and all this stuff, and all these things that I I know, you know what I mean?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: And we went to the mountain.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you guys remember, but like we went to the mountain when this decision was happening, and um being up there, you know, Mary's music, the whole nine yards, and feeling that sixth sense inside me, man, of just when I left that mountain, I'm moving to Ohio, no waiver, no nothing.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just that's what's happening, you know what I mean, and just feeling that and just being convicted in that that choice where I follow that, you know what I mean, that feeling to this day on things where that it was just like a monumental thing to make a decision to leave, you know.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'm just a year and change sober from being homeless on the street, and I'm going to pick up and start all over again.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_03: No job, living in her mom's house, and no idea how we're going to make it in life, but I'm just gonna go because that's where I need to go.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, that was like just monumental cool, and then not not like the moving, like honestly, just the feeling of like I'm not worried, like I'm gonna be fine, you know.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like that was like a a really, a really monumental, you know, point in my sobriety.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's a lot, that was a lot, man.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean I didn't have a job for like three months, you know what I mean?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: It was like, but it really didn't feel like a lot, and that's what this program, you know what I mean?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: The these these these things you get, you know, and because of this, it's that was definitely like super monumental.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Corey, you're up.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I like so I'm gonna go with this, um, because Dan just mentioned the mountain, but uh 2018, October 2018 mountain trip.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I did go in twenty Dan.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're talking about 2016, by the way.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Did you I think you went a year before I did.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I went in 2017 for the first time.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was uh yeah, I don't really know, dude.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but anyway, uh 2018, however, we were all there, the four of us.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um 20 so first off, the the mountain, right?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: We've mentioned it a few times uh on this podcast, but for our listeners that don't listen too well, um the the mountain refers to a spiritual retreat that a bunch of us uh recovered alcoholics used to go on um up in North Cal.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_00: It was a South Carolina.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Technically, technically South Carolina, but we uh we were in both states a lot.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it was a it was a weekend trip that happened twice a year, but the majority of us went once a year in October, and um it was a good time, but we could we could talk about the mountain trips for many episodes.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: But uh the 2017 one was my first one, and for some reason I did not have a great time.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it was fine, like I I enjoyed it to a degree, but I was like wrapped up in a lot of self bullshit and just like just in my head about a lot of things at the time.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: And then oddly enough, in 2018 I had like more shit going on, but it was like I guess more positive stuff.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like Gabby was pregnant.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um just I j I had just switched jobs and shit like that and whatever.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: But my point is that 2018 trip for whatever reason um I felt like I guess 2017 too.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: I just maybe it's just the mountain in general.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Really like forged a lot of I mean, we've already you know discussed all the friendships that we forged and stuff, but like I already knew Dan.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_00: I got closer with Greg on the mountain and Kyle.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_00: Sean was wouldn't leave me the hell alone anyway, so whatever.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: But um just like really got closer to everybody on the mountain, I think.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: And uh along with that in 2018, I guess this is why I I brought up 2018 is um like Dan and I had the privilege of of speaking at that at that meeting on Saturday.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_00: And uh you know I I do my best, like not it's not like uh um like we're we're so fucking great, Dan type of thing that we got to speak on the mountain, but like especially since it doesn't exist anymore, I'm like super grateful that I was scared as hell in the moment.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I remember even kind of arguing back, like I don't know, maybe like somebody else, you know.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: But um but man, I'm glad that we did that.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know, just a lot of good good memories on the mountain and stuff like that.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I think as far as like influential and sobriety, I wish there was more years that I got to go.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um but those two years, even though 2017 was eh, were uh man, I I'm so glad I have those memories.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: I uh I think that was gonna probably be my third one too, just just in general.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if there was a specific year because like my first year, I didn't go my first year so sober either, Corey.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I was I didn't go in October 2011, I went October 2012.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I went with with you know Robert and Ron and James.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it was like the young guy with these, oh, and and this guy Denny.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: This guy Denny uh from the early morning recovery group.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: He um he was kind of a curmudgeon, Corey.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: You would have liked him.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: And um apparently he had like been put on some brand new medication.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: He was a little older, he had some health problems, like right before the trip, and it was a met one of those medications that made him have to go pee like every 45 minutes.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: I just remember Robert, I just remember Robert J Robert J just being pissed because he was driving, like we had to stop all the time.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'll never forget it.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: But um, that was like the the first year I went was like I'm the young guy with all the old guys and all this knowledge, and I never heard my mentor, you know, Papa Ron speak more than I did on that trip.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like him and Robert just like chopped it up, and James too.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: But like it was there was something really mystical and magical about it, um, not to sound too corny.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_01: But then I would say, like, in the coming years, you know, like Greg, the year that you rode with me, and we had uh, you know, I don't even remember, was that yeah, the little corker in the back?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Was that uh uh Joey K?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, maybe it was.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I I don't remember his name.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it wasn't Joey K.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_02: It was it wasn't, it was uh the I don't know, the guy lived in Palm City.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh um Jason Jason Jason, yes, Jason.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: So but that's what I mean.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: Then I got to be like the guy that drove and like get bring the new guys with me and and have these conversations.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then there was a year that that uh that that Bill rode with me.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's a year that that Dustin rode with me.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: That was a great year because Dustin had been sober multiple years at this point, but you never let me in your car.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_02: You never let me in your car, but you got to ride in the back of the armada, dude.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say, yeah, you had it was all right.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: It worked out.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: I have no regrets.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, that was just like that.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Truly was just a the the whole experience was probably special, and that's probably like a softball, you know.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: I I could easily say, like meeting my wife, having my kids, those are all obvious ones, right?
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: These are like very specific to those first, you know, few years in in sobriety.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: So Greg, you got anything other than the mountain?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that was the thing.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: That was that was one for me, but I'll I'll piggyback off of Dan.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, because that was that was the other big one for me, is is coming home.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: And um, as you guys well know, uh 2019 was not the the year of Greg for sure, and uh had a lot of road bumps uh moving up to Delaware.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I gave some things my all.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_02: I made some mistakes, I failed big, and I ended up coming home after that.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: And it was um it was different, man.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: It was different.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: I I I never once felt scared about it.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um coming back.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I didn't feel uh, you know, Cory will hate this, but I didn't feel triggered by anything or any any of that, dude.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like goodness.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: I was triggered by you leaving.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, but um it it it just it reinforced that all this is so real, it doesn't matter where you are.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there's a line in the literature about uh you know uh being in Antarctica, you know, or or up on the North Pole or wherever.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um Eskimos.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Eskimos, yep.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um anymore.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is this is this is real for all of us, um no matter where we're at.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_02: But like I said, it allowed me to really um take a part, especially in my mom and stepdad's lives, and being able to help them um, you know, help manage their property until they got ready to to sell it, and um, and certainly, you know, you know, kind of be an adult away from the the safety net that that I kind of had in in Florida.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: And um that's not to say that we weren't living real lives down there too.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: We we all were, but you know, it it felt very safe, and it felt like what I was doing coming back home was maybe not, you know, and um yeah, it's it's just it it has made me much more of an adult.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: And and you know, certainly as a result of that, like I have a wonderful relationship that I've had for over three years now with Lauren.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I get to be a stepdad, which is huge to Payton.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: And and really, like, you know, I it made it made me realize I've never been in uh a real uh relationship before this one, you know, like yeah, plenty of girlfriends along the way, but I was so emotionally cut off from myself and and vacant in that department or guarded or however you want to put it.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_02: So um I getting getting to have that in my life today is is you know, um it's a joy and it's it's a learning curve sometimes, and it is.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um but it it's definitely uh made me grow up and be the man that I am today.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Dan, you got a third one?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I got a I mean I got a third.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: I I had a third one, but my third one's gonna be today.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I mean, literally, you know, like uh you know, I'll try to put this without uh so like today, man, sitting there with my son, like I was talking about with somebody that I've had visceral hate matches with.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like visceral hate, man.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: And and to be able to sit there and hold someone's hand.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're not you're not talking about visceral hate matches with your son.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: You're talking about with your ex, yeah.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Another family.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, got it.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: The way you said that, it made it sound like you have had visceral hate matches with your son.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: I said with my son there.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, got it.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: So, so like, you know, I mean, like sitting there and being able to hold someone's hand, man, to be like, I'm here, I'm here to help, you know, whatever you need.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: And and like, I don't know, man.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_03: It was just like in like I said, having my son there, and that culmination of like, I have every right in the being to be an absolute dick right now and be an asshole.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: I really can do that, you know what I mean?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_03: And it could be just in a human form where we would justify it because of all these things, and it wasn't even like you know, I mean, it was just it was super cool and awesome for for my son to see that and to see that love no matter what, to see that care.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: And and he said it, you know, and we talked about it afterwards.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know, man, I can't describe it.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: I really can't.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: I was in tears a lot, and it's like it's very undescribable what that was to you know it just just be there and be present with someone that wouldn't think that I would be somebody that would be present for them, yeah.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I don't know.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: I just it really was like I just yeah, I like being a present father was gonna be my three, but like I mean, honestly, today I don't know that's that's that is a present father, yeah.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, and like not that not that you need uh any adulation, but way to like teach your son how to be a man, you know.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's uh because that's that's huge, dude.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, huge, yeah.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: It was a lot, man.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: And and you know, and and the things he's been through and stuff here recently and stuff, and he's open being open and you know, talking to his friends and stuff, and like uh I'm super proud of him, man.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_01: Beat that, Corey.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_04: I can't.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_01: Did you have a third?
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, getting my cats, my cats for rescuing my cat.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: That was good.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, dude.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: I Dan, I'm not I I don't care.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: I gotta say it again, dude.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like the the trip you're on right now is just fucking wild, just knowing a lot of history from way back when, man.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: Just I'm I'm just so happy when I know I know this comes as a surprise that I'm like grateful and like happy about things sometimes, guys, but like I'm just so happy that like recovery gets to shine a lot when when things like this happen, like you know, through the ups and the downs that that this way of life gets to have its moment, really.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because what else you know what I mean?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because we get to be these types of people like you're being, you know, and that's yeah, yeah.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's just so cool.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's so cool, man.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's so cool, like on every facet where it's like you see like people like it's like it's like, bro, I've seen bad.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: You're good.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_03: All right, I'm telling you.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's wild.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Next episode's all about Dan and what we can say about him.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, then I'll definitely I'm definitely gonna drink after that episode.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: I uh listen, so I'm gonna I don't I don't know what fucking time it is, guys.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean we gotta talk about football still, but honorable mentions really quick before I give you my third.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_00: Real quick.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: That time I threw the tea, we're gonna leave it at that.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um getting introduced to Emmett Fox.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Along piggybacking all for that, Sean, when when you and I started cooking, that was very instrumental.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, what?
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: Cooking food or like cooking in life?
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, like cooking, like the kids say, cooking, you know what I mean?
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when we used to meet early in the morning, correct.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then I'm gonna I'm gonna also say uh a form of amends is when I'd handled all my legal bullshit.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I literally wouldn't have a fucking driver's license without it, nor you know, whatever.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: So like I'm not I I'm not the poster child for making amends.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm terrified of them often, and I've I've balked at many and I've gone through with some.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, many.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: But um the legal thing when I had like four no-bail warrants, and like that shit was scary, and it was I I had built a little bit of a life down here for two years, and it was like, okay, so now what?
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because you can't even get a license, you can't really progress in life until you go handle all these warrants.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: So what are you gonna do?
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_00: And Sean Sean told me he wasn't gonna hang out with me anymore unless I unless I made some phone calls, so that kind of got things rolling.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: And uh said I wouldn't pick you up anymore, that's what I would do.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's yes.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he still doesn't want to hang out with me, but um, but he will pick me up now if I need to.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: But so yeah, I mean, but like God had his hand in all that, and um, you know, to sum it up, because I could bore everybody with the the long story, but to sum it up, like four no bail warrants turned into new court dates and you know, probation.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was on probation for like 11 months that I got off on early because I was so good.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: And they even let me go to a Dave Matthews concert when I was on probation.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: So there you go.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um really like you know how fucking easy probation is, by the way, when you're sober and doing the right thing.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: Holy hell anybody, uh including myself, would tell you it's like the hardest thing, like there's no way you ever complete that successfully.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_00: That yeah, only if you're fucking up.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's the only way you don't complete that successfully.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: If you want to do the right thing, you will complete.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I did that.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that was you know, I will uh and I'll I'll end with this.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: When I went to handle my Nobel warrants, I'd I had uh bought a suit because I knew I wanted to wear a suit for the judge because that's what you do, right?
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: And um and uh the most time I spent in a cell was about four hours uh during which time somebody also joined me in that cell and then asked me if I was an attorney as I'm sitting there meditating my ass off, like worse than I ever have in my life, just trying to give it all to God, just scared as hell.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, You an attorney?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm in handcuffs, I'm literally in handcuffs, bro.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_00: Never seen anybody in a suit before.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_02: I would have I would have rolled that into my advantage for sure.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: Just tell him yes.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, would you like me to represent you?
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_02: I'm yours now.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm your attorney.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: Get in here.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Are you guilty or are you not?
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, that was um scary shit.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: So very cool.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, guys, that was fun.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_01: I I enjoyed that.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: We could probably we could probably go on and on and on.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I made I made the conscious decision before we started recording that we were gonna go 10 minutes long, anyways.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, sorry, Janine.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's gonna get a little extra long episode.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we have 18 minutes, boys.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: By my calculations, 18 minutes uh to talk some football.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think I'd like to go, and each of us can talk about our own teams if we want, but biggest storyline of the season, Greg.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_02: Shit.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't know.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_02: Is is Josh Allen finally going to uh rise above uh or rise to the status that um everybody loves to mean join Jalen Hurts in the win circle.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I would lump I would lump Lamar in that same kind of story.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: Lamar and Josh Allen, like those are the are they are either of them gonna take the next step?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it has to be win a Super Bowl.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think if they get to it, get to a Super Bowl, which they both can't because they're in the same conference, but um or if like they both get to the AFC Championship and have just awesome battle, you know, where it's not like one team lost, they both like gave it their all.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think those are two huge storylines.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I would say on the flip side of uh of that coin in the NFC, Justin Herbert as well.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Dan, biggest storyline or or a or a storyline that sticks out to you most.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm trying to think, man.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, biggest storyline that sticks out to me most.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I see the easy one is obviously my giants in Harborough, but I'm not doing that.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta think about it.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I don't know.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a pretty I think that's a pretty big one with with all the hype around Dart, you know, how many backflips is Cam Scattaboo gonna do this year?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it's I Malik neighbors, like can neighbors come back from that.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like that's a I I think I think Harbor, I think they're just gonna have an identity this year.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_03: They haven't had an identity.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_03: The defense was sus, like that, you know, the their D-line is stoked.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: They have linebackers.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_03: I really feel like the defense is gonna be really good.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just gonna be if Dart stays healthy.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_03: It really to me, it's just gonna be if he stays healthy and think they're gonna have a great running game, they got great tight ends, you know, they got great wide outs as long as neighbor stays healthy.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they got all the tools to do it, and I think they actually have an identity now where like Day Bowl and stuff was good, man.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_03: But like you're bringing in these quarterback coaches when we have no real quarterback, you know what I mean, that are trying to like lead this team through the quarterback, and it's like they're really there was no idea, no one to protect them.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_03: There was no identity to the team at all.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm really curious to see if that is all gonna be, you know what I mean, just made up because of our who harbor is, but I'm curious to see it.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he's a he's a defensive first guy.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: As as any successful coach in the AFC North is you gotta be defensive first.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, and so he is defense now, but dude, do you guys remember how he made his bones early on?
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_01: He was a special teams coach.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, he was a special teams coach, but yeah, defense.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Corey, big storyline.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: What are you looking at?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and say it, whatever you want to say.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, the only thing that comes to mind actually, and I know this is gonna be a you guys are whatever.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, well, fuck him, first off, dude.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: If I catch that motherfucker, dude.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just I'm just saying if I catch him in PSL, man.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um I do hope that he has a terrible season.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: I hope it's awful.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it will be, but whatever.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um no, I'm actually curious to see if not if, but like what Pat Mahomes looks like this year.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's one that I thought too.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yep, you know what I mean?
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_01: Because from all accounts, that offense still doesn't look that great.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't think so.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't believe I can't believe Kelsey's still playing.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I mean.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: That's been much ridiculous.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: I haven't heard much about them at all.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: What's up about like they're just all I hear is that Patrick Mahomes looks good.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like he looks he's ahead of schedule, he looks good, which maybe they're gonna say that regardless.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: But I am curious, uh, they're not their favorite in the in the AFC.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they're not their favorite in the AFC.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's over, dude.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's over.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe the Eagles broke their dreams, their hopes.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I hope so.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: Broke their spirit, dude.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: That would be great.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_03: That whole family, please.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, yeah, I'm curious to see what happens with with Jalen Hurts, actually.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: And because I think honestly, so I talk a lot of shit or whatever, but no.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean, I feel like this is kind of set every year, but like I feel like more this year I'm seeing the this is this is a defining year for Jalen Hurts.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: I I would agree, I would agree.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: All things considered, I would agree.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think if I I don't know this shit at all, dude.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm still I think it's a more defining year for Sirianni if we're being honest, but I don't know.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the the the talk I've seen is like they didn't extend Hurts this year, and they could have, I guess.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: And they they want to see, I guess.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean that doesn't make any sense.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: He's your guy, you know what I'm saying?
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: Unless you're tanking going through the city.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_03: I feel I feel like they're I feel like they're waiting because they're gonna have to pay him big money, and and their system is kind of set up plug and play.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think is this the f is I I think I heard this correctly.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is the first year they have a repeat offensive coordinator.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: For him.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: They have a new one?
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's Sean Manion guy.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I thought, okay.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: He's at a different one still every year in college.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_01: That was a different that was a different team then, but yeah, it'll be interesting.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um but he's a but and I don't know anything about him either.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Sean Manion, is that his name?
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Manon?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: Manion?
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: What's his name?
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's from Greenville.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_01: Manion.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_00: He was like a he was like a nobody.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Manion, yeah, yeah.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: Manion.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I don't know anything about him, and like I don't know, I don't know.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_00: And there's no telling.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: I would say um I I I like all those storylines.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: I the one thing is um, dude, the hype around the LA Rams is real.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like they might be they might waltz to this thing.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, probably not because it's football and crazy things happen.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, is Aaron Donald gonna return?
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_01: Most people say yes, and he's gonna come back like a little more than halfway through the season, so he's fresh.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: What what do you mean?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: Is he gonna return?
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he passes physicals.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I don't think he's is I don't think he's like planning on playing though right away, from what I've heard.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, because he hasn't had any OT.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're gonna ease him in, and he's just like like because they want him to be fresh later in the season.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um we have Miles Garrett, so I know that's what I mean.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like Miles Garrett, Devontae Adams.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I listened to a podcast um with Devontae Adams the other day, who's uh a stick at golf, by the way, um, and only picked the game up like a few years ago.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: But he was like just and it's his team, obviously, but you know, he was kind of I don't know, that's with with Stafford, with with Puka.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, Puka Nakua's all his off-field rehab stuff is all good to go.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: God only knows.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're they're loaded, man.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I think there's there's there's some hype around that and some some legit hype.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um 49ers, can they stay healthy?
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's always a big a big one, you know.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_02: I think they have the oldest receiving core in football.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_01: They do, they're all 30 plus.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Debo's back with them.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're all 30 plus.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but um, and then obviously I would say like I'd like I I want to see how, hey Noah, I want to see how my my Redskins do.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's crying early for the Eagles' inevitable losses.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: He he doesn't even like the Eagles.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_01: Corey, if you need to take care of business, you can.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you guys just do whatever you want.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Greg, talk to me about the Cleveland Browns.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sell me on the Cleveland Browns, Greg.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna sell you on this.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna sell you on the fact that right now I am fully consigned to the fact we are going to win in between three and four games.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_02: Three and four?
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_02: In between three and four games, yep.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and yeah, I I think that it is going to be a shit show, but I'm going in with that so that anything else that happens in the positive uh is just a welcome surprise, man.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um we're we're trotting out Deshaun Watson.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna try that experiment again.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_02: Can the guy uh throw away?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_01: I still think that's the best option, bro.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: I really, really it is.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: And and here's the thing is you know, everybody wants the Shador story.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: He's not he he's not better than Deshaun Watson, which is no they did the whole camp.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and like look, like there were times where in in little sparks here and there, there were also times that Dylan Gabriel looked better than both of them, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_01: I think in the long run, Dylan Gabriel might be better than Shador.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, I think that I think that right now we are rolling the dice that we might get Arch Manning um out of the draft next year.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um some bright spots for the Browns offense.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you've got uh Quinshawn Judkins, yeah, coming back from an injury, but he looks like he's rocking and ready to go.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um some exciting receivers, dude.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and not that they have anybody super talented to throw them the football, but uh Concepcion.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um Denzel Boston looks like he can be a runaway stud.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know, and and yeah, you still got you still got Judy in there, but we we finally cut some loose ends, and uh, you know, so it looks like when we do finally get a quarterback that can throw the football, shit.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: Even Jameis Winston, I'll take him.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh if if if he's around midseason, but um, you know, we're we're gonna have a talented receiving core, but we're gonna be we're gonna be terrible.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_02: We're we're um without Miles Garrett with a brand new coach, and he came over from Baltimore, but I don't know if Munkin's the guy.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: I really don't.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: He kind of sounds a little dopey, uh, to be honest.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll just have to see.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean he was he was good in Baltimore.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um I am I'm gonna I've I've made a a solemn oath with myself that I will not allow the Cleveland Browns to dictate my mood and or blood pressure.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: You said that last year.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um no, I'm I'm for real this time.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_02: So um I it's it unlike uh alcohol and drugs, I have been able to figure out how to just turn it off and walk away.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh make the choice to do so uh if I need to.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, that's what I'll be doing.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: What's never mind?
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: Never mind.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_01: Dan, what about the what about the Giants?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_01: Man, you kind of talked about them already, but anything you want to Greg.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: We gotta give Greg pop uh props though, because you know what I mean.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a sellout.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_03: So give Greg props on he stayed with the Browns and staying with the Browns, and there's no waiver.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_03: And we're uh Greg called me out on I was rooting for the Bengals, uh, because my son was a Bengals fan, you know, because I haven't, I I I jumped the ship on the Giants.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_03: We're just stopped watching because they were so awful.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_03: And uh you gotta give Greg Greg his props on uh sticking with them no matter what.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's another storyline is Joe Burrow and the Bengals, see what they can bounce back from.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, Giants, I mean, really, dude, uh honestly, like you look at it, you know, on paper, they have all the positions covered.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_03: Everything's good, they got people to play every position, and they're not just running the mill Joes.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: You know, neighbors is a stud.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like literally they're running back court, they could be amazing.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_03: Tight ends are phenomenal, they have three amazing tight ends.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, so an offense is gonna be the offensive line, you know.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: But I feel like the offensive line, we picked up a couple dudes, you know, that they're gonna be good enough to where like whatever uh uh they're gonna put in place.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_03: We have the weapons to, you know what I mean, minimize if there's any holes in the offensive line.
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then um just defensively, every good Giants team was based on defense, and we got the coach for that right now.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_03: We got you know good rushers, we got uh linebackers, you know.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_03: Our secondary is the only suspect thing that uh, you know, I'm I'm a little concerned about.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_03: But um, I mean, honestly, it's just I I'm just curious.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_03: I really honestly have no idea.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_03: I can't sell because I can't like I really have no clue, you know what I mean, what to what to expect.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_03: And then if someone gets hurt, that's a whole nother ball game.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's like just but it's exciting for the first time in a long time.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_03: I am excited to see what they can do.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: The hope of a new season.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: God, it's it's intoxicating.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: The hope of a new season.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: Corey, Eagles, this is your chance.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_01: You get like you got like two and a half minutes just to cook on the Eagles.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_01: Sell sell us on them.
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not uh knowledgeable enough to cook for two minutes.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just I don't know.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_00: I hope Saquon has a great year because last year they kind of figured him out and we got stopped up a bunch on the run.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean last year was a our record was decent, but it was a shit show, and we got totally fucked by the 49ers in the playoffs.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: It was terrible, but but you know, whatever.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh you know what?
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_00: One one thing I am uh excited for is uh Devontae Smith at wide receiver one, dude.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_00: He gets to be the A receiver now.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_00: We we've been saying it for a long time.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: We had two wide receiver ones for a long time, and he and he was the other one.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: You hear him, guys?
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: We've been saying it.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_01: We we've been saying it.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: We have been on the internet.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I know I legitimately I know exactly what you mean.
• 1:05:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean he who caught the fucking dagger in the Super Bowl, Devontae Smith, not AJ Brown.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_00: AJ Brown, we we let him we let AJ Brown score a touchdown to keep his feelings in check.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_00: AJ Brown was reading his book on the sidelines.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I hate too is like I but I should just move on from that guy.
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_00: But what I hate too is like all that was all that drama was unfolding, and and you know, you don't expect any less, but all they say to the media is like what?
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I concentrate.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_00: I read a book.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, shut the fuck up, dude.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna beat her out of the way.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_01: If he has a good year in if he has a good year in New England, Corey's gonna sh have a conniption fit.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know what sucks about that, dude, is I don't hate the Patriots.
• 1:05:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't hate the Patriots.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I just don't and like I like Drake May.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like Drake May.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it it UNC boy.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: If they had a good year otherwise, I'd be like, nice, good for them.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: But AJ Brown.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't I hope he has a terrible year.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um Kai Lemon, I'm um you know fucking rookie.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_00: I hope he just has a phenomenal rookie year.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what can I say?
• 1:06:18
  SPEAKER_00: He he's a little weird.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: A little weird.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_00: He does some weird snaky shit in interviews.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like it, but you know, just to catch the ball and fucking go in the end zone.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: So um I don't know, dude.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm excited.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: I am excited.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's so fun.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_00: It is fun.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_00: It is fun when, you know, every week you have a chance to be really happy for the whole week because your team won.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_00: And then they lose, and then it's like, damn, I gotta wait a whole week to be happy again.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: Unreal.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine if you could just be happy regardless of the outcome of the video.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is what happens to my morning routine.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: Every year, it's going well until they lose, and then I'm like, I can't do this.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: Corey's morning routine is solid from you know end of February every year until the very beginning of September, and then it's week.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's over this week.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited too.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: I I I love college too, as you guys know.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's been some electric games so far.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_01: Old Miss Game last night was great, but I'm excited for the NFL season.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm cautiously optimistic about my Redskins.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: I I can Jaden Daniels stay healthy.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_01: If he can stay healthy, I truly think he'll have he'll have a very good year.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they've retooled those guys.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_02: You guys got digs now, right?
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we got Stefan, which he's he might be a primadonna.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not, but he is talented.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, Stefan Diggs, Terry McLaurin, obviously.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_01: We got that uh second year Antonio Williams, along with uh, you know, Traylon Burks and then the the McCaffrey brother, who's who's you know, flashed, but um re we got a a very rut, very much a retooled defensive line, the linebacker core, edge rusher, pass ruts.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like we've retooled the offensive line, which is big because again, can Jaden stay healthy is gonna be the big thing.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_01: And the NFC East is kind of wide open, really, between us, the Cowboys, the Phil, uh, the Phillies, the Eagles, and the Giants.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_01: So um wide open might be a stretch.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: It could it could be really fun.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think it is kind of wide open.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_03: They all have talent, man.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the who doesn't have talent to be in the mix?
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_00: I guess you're right.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think Giants and Dallas went differently.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: Dallas could surprise all of us.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: D D Lamb and Dak are good for 4,000 yards.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna be 80 touchdowns every year.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_01: They're always they're always one of the highest rated offenses, and they've they've made some legit changes on defense as well.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, but has anybody said yet we them boys?
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_00: Because if they've said that, then they are not them boys, and the season's over already for them.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I I heard I heard a good thing about Jerry Jones.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, like they somebody asked him in a press conference, like, what is the identity of the Dallas Cowboys?
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_01: And like he had no good answer for it.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_00: You should have just said we them boys.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: He had no good answer.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_01: Soin us.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm the identity.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_00: But um, it's gonna be I promise, Sean, that I'm gonna I'm gonna get into college ball this year.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna it's fun, dude.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's I did.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_00: I watched a little bit on Saturday, and I was dude.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_03: And Saturday, that the first week is the worst week of the whole season.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_03: So usually, yeah.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_01: Next week you got like next week, you got like three huge ranked on rank games like Ohio State, Texas.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's it's gonna be you know wild.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_01: So it's exciting, exciting time of year.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, week zero in college football is one of the greatest weeks of the year because everything starts from this point.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_01: We have baseball playoffs happening soon, college football starts, NFL starts, NBA starts, college basketball starts, then you roll into March Madness.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's just playoffs, March Madness, everything.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's awesome.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_00: So Janine's gonna listen to this and be like, my god, what the fuck?
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, we're she's gonna fire us.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_00: She's gonna listen.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_01: We did fine, but we are at a hundred, we are at uh one hour eleven minutes.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_01: So that is our cue.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um boys, love it.
• 1:10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Exciting.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Grateful for all of you.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Dan, travel safely.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, shout out to our listeners.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_01: Please like, follow, and share on all socials at Trud Report Pod.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_01: Email us, TrudgeReportPod at yahoo.com.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Send in your mailbag request for topics, questions, and comments to any of these handles.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, we are all here if anyone wants to talk about recovery, our experiences, or if you're struggling with some form of addiction.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you again to Janine and Stella Mix Podcast Management.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Good night.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_01: God bless.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_01: May you trudge the road of happy destiny.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_01: We will see you all next week.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_01: Cheers.