Latest / Foul Territory / Cardinals outfielder Victor Scott II on 90SB goals, Youth movement
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- 0:00Speaker 1: But if I was Ricky Henderson, I talked talking third person,
- 0:03Speaker 1: so I would say, Victor's gonna get eighty five.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Here we go.
- 0:10Speaker 3: We're back with Victor Scott, the second Saint Louis Cardinals
- 0:12Speaker 3: outfielder speedster.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Excited to have him on. We had you on.
- 0:16Speaker 3: It's probably been what crats almost almost a year we
- 0:20Speaker 3: had him on. I think it was Arizona Fall League
- 0:22Speaker 3: last year. So yeah, Victor, how you doing it? Tell
- 0:26Speaker 3: me about life between last time we had you on
- 0:28Speaker 3: and now?
- 0:30Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you guys can hear me? Good?
- 0:33Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound great?
- 0:34Speaker 5: Okay, we got it all right?
- 0:35Speaker 4: Perfect? Perfect? I mean life was, life is pretty crazy.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I mean I was fortunate enough and blessed enough to
- 0:40Speaker 1: make my debut this past year in twenty twenty four
- 0:44Speaker 1: in Dodger Stadium, So that was pretty sick. Had like
- 0:47Speaker 1: some ups and downs in up coming back up like
- 0:49Speaker 1: later in the season, did pretty well. So I mean, uh,
- 0:52Speaker 1: it was it was a lot to take in this season.
- 0:54Speaker 5: It was.
- 0:54Speaker 4: It was a lot going on.
- 0:56Speaker 1: It was pretty cool moments, pretty bad moments, but I
- 0:58Speaker 1: mean we lived through it.
- 1:00Speaker 6: Christian Victor, I need some clarification because I learned something
- 1:05Speaker 6: new about being a junior or a second. Okay, I
- 1:10Speaker 6: didn't know this, but I was told that juniors are
- 1:12Speaker 6: always directly following their father, but second can skip. So
- 1:16Speaker 6: if your grandpa was Victor, you can be the second.
- 1:20Speaker 6: Is that do you know anything about that? Is that true?
- 1:22Speaker 6: And which one are you?
- 1:24Speaker 4: I'm the second? But I dude, I get so much
- 1:27Speaker 4: for it.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Would people be like, yo, you should be a junior
- 1:30Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, I got a second on
- 1:32Speaker 1: my birth certificates.
- 1:33Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm just gonna roll with that.
- 1:36Speaker 6: Love it, love it.
- 1:36Speaker 5: Okay.
- 1:37Speaker 6: Following up, obviously, I want to talk ask you a
- 1:39Speaker 6: little bit about what you mentioned. You know, struggle a
- 1:41Speaker 6: little bit when you get called up, go back down,
- 1:43Speaker 6: and then come back up and find a little bit
- 1:45Speaker 6: more success when you went back down and then you
- 1:47Speaker 6: made that second trip up, what was the biggest adjustment.
- 1:51Speaker 6: What do you think that that unlocked that a little
- 1:53Speaker 6: bit and allowed you to get a little more comfortable.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean big league pitching is pretty tough, man.
- 1:59Speaker 1: So I had a pretty like really really simple swing
- 2:02Speaker 1: and guys were just getting me out like ground balls,
- 2:04Speaker 1: the second base, fly balls, the left field kind of
- 2:06Speaker 1: that split of like flare to left ground ball a second.
- 2:09Speaker 1: So I kind of just made some made a really
- 2:12Speaker 1: really big adjustment by adding the leg kid, give me
- 2:14Speaker 1: a little bit more adjustability, kind of kind of add
- 2:17Speaker 1: a little bit more popped in my swing too, So
- 2:19Speaker 1: I mean it started to play play a lot more,
- 2:21Speaker 1: started to have a little bit more success. So I
- 2:23Speaker 1: mean that was kind of the biggest mid season adjustment
- 2:25Speaker 1: I had.
- 2:27Speaker 7: Do you feel like the team could give you a
- 2:29Speaker 7: little more leash and not just you, I'm kind of
- 2:32Speaker 7: like putting it into I'm putting you into entire Cardinals
- 2:36Speaker 7: like playbook that when when I played, when Trevor played,
- 2:41Speaker 7: when Todd played, it was like the dudes that got
- 2:43Speaker 7: called up were the old kind of slow triple A
- 2:46Speaker 7: players that like, you know, you've been there, but at
- 2:49Speaker 7: some point we're gonna call up our prospect the second
- 2:52Speaker 7: and he's gonna come up and he's just gonna solidify,
- 2:55Speaker 7: kind of like Jordan Walker came up hit like two
- 2:57Speaker 7: to eighty, they sent him down. It was like, go, Lee,
- 2:59Speaker 7: do you feel like the Cardinals could give you a
- 3:01Speaker 7: little bit more of a leash as prospects in the
- 3:04Speaker 7: system when you come up.
- 3:07Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's like more of like a
- 3:09Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but I feel like it's more of
- 3:11Speaker 1: like a runway. This year given given the young guys
- 3:15Speaker 1: kind of a shot to really prove themselves and to
- 3:18Speaker 1: be able to to fail and then like have a
- 3:20Speaker 1: chance to succeed too.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I mean we we all kind of know how the
- 3:24Speaker 4: game goes.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I mean, you may get out, you may have a
- 3:26Speaker 1: tough stretch of oh for twenty or whatever. But having
- 3:29Speaker 1: that like runway and that and them knowing that they
- 3:31Speaker 1: trust us to continue to push ourselves, I mean it's
- 3:35Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty comfortable to be able to step in
- 3:37Speaker 1: the box every day and say, Okay, I mean I
- 3:40Speaker 1: may I may not get sent down right after this game,
- 3:42Speaker 1: but yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 7: Dude, that's that's perfect. Can you explain what that feeling
- 3:48Speaker 7: is like? Can you explain that feeling of like, hey,
- 3:52Speaker 7: we got you, we got you for one hundred and
- 3:53Speaker 7: fifty two hundred at bats instead of I'm oh for three?
- 3:58Speaker 8: Is Ali gonna pinch it for me here? Like? What
- 4:00Speaker 8: what's to deal with that?
- 4:01Speaker 9: Like?
- 4:01Speaker 7: All, I got another chance, Okay, I got I gotta
- 4:04Speaker 7: do this. Like what kind of feeling is that? Because
- 4:06Speaker 7: I don't lose sleep over that anymore because I ain't playing.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's tough.
- 4:12Speaker 1: It's tough to like to kind of have like those
- 4:15Speaker 1: those thoughts like creeping, like you don't want it to
- 4:17Speaker 1: affect like you're at bats, but like it's it's subconscious.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Man.
- 4:21Speaker 1: It like kind of taps in there and says like,
- 4:22Speaker 1: you know, like we gotta get a hit, and now
- 4:24Speaker 1: you're now you're like kind of pressing and hitting's already
- 4:27Speaker 1: hard enough. He's the wrong stuff that's has breaking right
- 4:30Speaker 1: when it gets to you. I mean, it's it's hard enough.
- 4:32Speaker 1: So kind of like without that added stress, it gives
- 4:35Speaker 1: you kind of he allows you to kind of relax
- 4:38Speaker 1: your shoulders a little bit, let your hair down, that
- 4:40Speaker 1: kind of idea.
- 4:43Speaker 5: I want to talk a little bit about your speed man.
- 4:45Speaker 9: One of the couple of fastest guys I've ever seen,
- 4:47Speaker 9: Billy Hamilton, was an absolute monster on the basis Billy
- 4:51Speaker 9: actually never got never was never taught how to really run,
- 4:54Speaker 9: Like he never took track and field. He never knew
- 4:57Speaker 9: how to you know, break and you could see him
- 4:59Speaker 9: he was quick and fast, but at the same time
- 5:01Speaker 9: his breaks he would always come up. They tried working
- 5:03Speaker 9: on him and he would still steal basis. A couple
- 5:05Speaker 9: questions for you. Did you work on running when you
- 5:08Speaker 9: were younger? You have a technique that you do, And
- 5:11Speaker 9: can you see yourself getting seventy pucks bags in a
- 5:14Speaker 9: year in the full season.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. My dad and my
- 5:18Speaker 1: mom they were both track stars. So my dad would
- 5:20Speaker 1: like on top of the baseball stuff, he would take
- 5:23Speaker 1: me out and tell me, Okay, this is what you
- 5:25Speaker 1: need to do. This is what groove form looks like,
- 5:27Speaker 1: this is what bad form looks like. So he'd kind
- 5:29Speaker 1: of tell me the two differences and the the ability
- 5:32Speaker 1: to really like get out the blocks, as he would say,
- 5:34Speaker 1: but it's get out the box in our sport. But
- 5:37Speaker 1: kind of like learning that at a young age helped
- 5:39Speaker 1: me out with with being quick, with being fast, and
- 5:42Speaker 1: like learning the mechanics for running. But I forgot the
- 5:46Speaker 1: second part.
- 5:47Speaker 4: The second part.
- 5:48Speaker 9: Seventy seventy plus bags in a full year. I mean,
- 5:50Speaker 9: you got ninety four and twenty twenty three and one
- 5:52Speaker 9: hundred and thirty two games. Talk to me, dogie, let's go.
- 5:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah, the goal the goal is fifty plus first and
- 5:58Speaker 1: then once we get there, we'll keep building for sure.
- 6:02Speaker 5: All Right, all right, I like that respectable?
- 6:06Speaker 6: All right, I don't.
- 6:07Speaker 5: I don't like that.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I don't.
- 6:08Speaker 6: I don't, I don't accept it. All Right, we're going
- 6:10Speaker 6: one sixty two. You were in the big leagues, okay,
- 6:12Speaker 6: because okay, we we had we you know, rest in
- 6:16Speaker 6: peace for you know, Ricky Henderson passed away this year.
- 6:18Speaker 6: But but Ricky, how Ricky would answer this question. I
- 6:22Speaker 6: want you to channel your Ricky. All Right, you got
- 6:24Speaker 6: one sixty two, healthy, you're running, give me a number,
- 6:28Speaker 6: like like ideal in your head, like this is this
- 6:30Speaker 6: is me just dialed in. How many bags could you
- 6:34Speaker 6: get in one hundred and sixty? Especially with the pickoff
- 6:36Speaker 6: rules the way.
- 6:36Speaker 1: They are, I'm gonna go with eighty five to ninety.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Were gonna go on astrach. But if I was Ricky Henderson,
- 6:44Speaker 1: I talk about talking third person, so I would say,
- 6:47Speaker 1: Victor's gonna get eighty five to ninety.
- 6:49Speaker 6: Yeah, love that exactly. That's exactly what I was asking for.
- 6:55Speaker 8: That is tremendous. All the tools, all the tools in baseball,
- 6:58Speaker 8: Like everyone.
- 6:59Speaker 7: Talks about the five tools hitting, arm, strength, defense, you know,
- 7:03Speaker 7: power speed.
- 7:05Speaker 8: You obviously have an eighty grade speed.
- 7:08Speaker 7: Would you trade that for an eighty grade on any
- 7:11Speaker 7: of the other power Now you'd have to trade it,
- 7:14Speaker 7: like like you would have to take my speed twenty. Okay,
- 7:18Speaker 7: you would have to take that to get rid of that,
- 7:20Speaker 7: But then you'd have an eighty eighty grade.
- 7:23Speaker 8: Which one would you choose?
- 7:25Speaker 5: Dude?
- 7:25Speaker 4: I think I'd go hit tool Tool.
- 7:29Speaker 1: I mean your on base like day, that's that's the
- 7:33Speaker 1: hardest part to do in a game like Via Walk
- 7:35Speaker 1: Hit by PiZZ but especially getting hits eighty grade hit two.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I mean you can hit that eighty grade hit two
- 7:41Speaker 1: for sure. So I go, I go there, that's my
- 7:43Speaker 1: trade off.
- 7:45Speaker 5: That's a good answer.
- 7:47Speaker 7: That is not an answer I would think coming from
- 7:50Speaker 7: somebody that's just coming up to the like everyone says, oh,
- 7:53Speaker 7: I want eighty power. I want Pee Lonzo power, I
- 7:56Speaker 7: want Kyle Schwarber power on Pop.
- 7:58Speaker 8: But hit tool.
- 8:00Speaker 7: You're clogging up the bases, kid, I mean, you're they're
- 8:03Speaker 7: just giving you. They're giving you two They're giving you
- 8:06Speaker 7: two outs. Two hands on the outs every time, like
- 8:09Speaker 7: one you ain't gonna know where Victor. And you're like, what,
- 8:12Speaker 7: but I but I want to.
- 8:14Speaker 2: But they're like, no, your crats now. But that is
- 8:16Speaker 2: a good cause.
- 8:17Speaker 3: I think there's been one player I don't remember which
- 8:19Speaker 3: publication that got an eighty grade prospect wise hit tool,
- 8:24Speaker 3: and I think it was Flatty like recent, you know,
- 8:27Speaker 3: in the past ten twenty years or something like that.
- 8:29Speaker 3: So yeah, Blatty's hit tool not bad, right, victor something
- 8:33Speaker 3: like that.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we saw what we've seen what Laddie's
- 8:37Speaker 1: been doing over the past couple of years since he's
- 8:39Speaker 1: been in the league. So eighty great hit too, eight
- 8:42Speaker 1: he's at any level, So I mean, definitely gotta go
- 8:45Speaker 1: with a hit tool.
- 8:46Speaker 3: I like it all right, I'm gonna bring in one
- 8:48Speaker 3: or two fan. Here's Brandon said, when VS. Two comes on,
- 8:52Speaker 3: can you ask him what it has been like working
- 8:54Speaker 3: with Cardinals legend Willie McGee in the outfield and what
- 8:56Speaker 3: it's like to have John Jay now to help out
- 8:58Speaker 3: in the outfield.
- 8:59Speaker 2: That's right. Jay went from Miami to Saint Louis now.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I mean WILLI wially he's a he's a
- 9:06Speaker 4: great guy. Here's a ton of knowledge.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who's a who's a
- 9:09Speaker 1: red jacket, which is like a Hall of Famer in
- 9:10Speaker 1: an organization. So I mean he's extremely well valued. He
- 9:14Speaker 1: has a ton of wisdom, So like getting getting some
- 9:17Speaker 1: information from that guy is but I mean anything he
- 9:20Speaker 1: drops pretty much. But I mean John Jay, he's a
- 9:22Speaker 1: he's a great guy. He's higher energy, he wakes up
- 9:24Speaker 1: early mornings when he doesn't have to. I mean, that's
- 9:26Speaker 1: kind of a guy he is. But he has a
- 9:28Speaker 1: ton of knowledge too. Man, we we've talked a lot
- 9:30Speaker 1: about like row running and a lot of playing defense
- 9:33Speaker 1: and and first steps. So getting to work with him
- 9:36Speaker 1: a few times and of course like over the course
- 9:38Speaker 1: of the season, I mean I'm looking forward to it,
- 9:40Speaker 1: but working with him has been has been pretty cool
- 9:42Speaker 1: as well.
- 9:44Speaker 8: Now you're down in spring training already or not yet?
- 9:47Speaker 4: Down down in Jupiter?
- 9:49Speaker 8: Now is John Is John j down there yet?
- 9:53Speaker 1: I mean he's he's sprinkled in a couple of times,
- 9:56Speaker 1: but I think he's on vacation, supposed to come coming
- 9:59Speaker 1: back pretty soon.
- 10:00Speaker 4: But I mean he's off season.
- 10:03Speaker 2: So this guy does that, don't don't let him do that.
- 10:07Speaker 7: Don't let him off the hook. He's gonna come in
- 10:09Speaker 7: here with his like swanky like.
- 10:11Speaker 5: Jordan's Miami colors. Yeah, like all like you.
- 10:16Speaker 7: Tell him, tell him like the the Memphis Mafia we're working.
- 10:21Speaker 7: So if he's not on board with that, like tell him,
- 10:23Speaker 7: this isn't Miami anymore, Like we're not We're not the Marlins.
- 10:27Speaker 8: This is the Cardinals way. Okay, So it just makes
- 10:29Speaker 8: you keep him in line.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a I mean, he's a he's a cool dude.
- 10:35Speaker 4: Man, he's a cool dude. So, I mean he's got
- 10:37Speaker 4: he's got Jay's.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He says, he's got shoes for days, man, So trying
- 10:41Speaker 1: to I'm also a shoehead too, So like gonna be
- 10:43Speaker 1: able to talk with him about and whatever else. I mean,
- 10:47Speaker 1: he's he's a cool dude, and we're gonna we're gonna
- 10:49Speaker 1: keep each other, keep each other all right through the
- 10:51Speaker 1: course of the year.
- 10:53Speaker 8: Yeah, what is it?
- 10:54Speaker 7: What is what's your best shoe favorite? No, we can't
- 10:58Speaker 7: see him right now unless they're right next to you.
- 11:00Speaker 7: What what is what is.
- 11:01Speaker 8: Your go to.
- 11:04Speaker 5: Go to?
- 11:05Speaker 4: Sheesh? It depends on where I'm going. Depends on where
- 11:08Speaker 4: I'm going.
- 11:09Speaker 1: But if I want to put something with a suit,
- 11:11Speaker 1: I'd probably go with like a like a Louis Baton
- 11:14Speaker 1: or or like a Burberry or something.
- 11:17Speaker 9: I don't know, Okay, I like that little little little burber.
- 11:24Speaker 6: You got more than one choice, that's crazy.
- 11:28Speaker 8: Guy.
- 11:29Speaker 1: I'm a shoot guy, So I mean, I like, I
- 11:31Speaker 1: like Adidas. That's who I'm with. So anything that they come.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Out with that's like exclusive or whatever, I try to
- 11:36Speaker 4: get my hands on it somehow.
- 11:37Speaker 1: But but yeah, I've came to like a little little
- 11:40Speaker 1: pause though. I'm trying to trying to save ups or
- 11:42Speaker 1: some things big in the in this year.
- 11:44Speaker 4: So I've that's pretty cool.
- 11:47Speaker 7: You're with Adidas. Do you got the ants? Do you
- 11:49Speaker 7: got you got different color? Anthony Edwards?
- 11:51Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got a pair of Man's Man.
- 11:54Speaker 7: Okay, they said, yeah, they sent us. They send us
- 11:57Speaker 7: a pair of my son's rocking them into games. Dude,
- 11:59Speaker 7: there is oh many. My wife was like, I don't
- 12:01Speaker 7: even really know what kind of shoesdays are. I was like, well,
- 12:04Speaker 7: they're kind of hot. And I was like, look, three
- 12:06Speaker 7: guys on that basketball team, four guys on his team
- 12:09Speaker 7: all got them. So what's the color do they have?
- 12:11Speaker 7: Do they have like a do they have a red ant?
- 12:13Speaker 7: Man that You're like, I could wear these in VP?
- 12:16Speaker 1: Yeah, they got like a they got like a neon
- 12:18Speaker 1: area that I'm about to have on the way from
- 12:20Speaker 1: but it's pretty.
- 12:22Speaker 4: It's pretty nice though, so might see me and know
- 12:25Speaker 4: for sure.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Did you see the j last year?
- 12:31Speaker 4: Yeah? Crazy?
- 12:37Speaker 3: Those are crazy. How would you describe those those jay rides?
- 12:40Speaker 3: Because I think they had crystals on them?
- 12:43Speaker 5: Was it?
- 12:45Speaker 2: Yep?
- 12:45Speaker 3: Swarovski I saw those in person actually too, and I'm like,
- 12:51Speaker 3: those are so pretty. If I have one pair, I
- 12:54Speaker 3: gotta put them up somewhere. And then if you have
- 12:55Speaker 3: two and you're walking around like who your Rodriguez is,
- 12:58Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, this dude is next level that he
- 13:01Speaker 3: can rock the Oh what did you think when you
- 13:04Speaker 3: saw those? Because that was like late last season and
- 13:06Speaker 3: we talked about on the show because those were standout.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean those are those are pretty flash
- 13:13Speaker 1: shoes though, man, Like I mean you can put them on,
- 13:17Speaker 1: rock them with anything. I mean, especially like I think
- 13:19Speaker 1: he wore Did he wear those down like Player weekend?
- 13:21Speaker 2: I want to say, I think so, yeah, that sounds right.
- 13:26Speaker 4: The crystal the crystals on him are are crazy, you know.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I mean it has that like that flare to it too,
- 13:31Speaker 1: So I mean, hey, he's rocking it for sure.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Yeah, once you got seventy backs.
- 13:36Speaker 3: That's that's that's Victor Scott with some crystals right there.
- 13:40Speaker 3: All right, I got back back to ball. I got
- 13:42Speaker 3: one more for you, one more fan question. I promised
- 13:44Speaker 3: i'd ask, so hein and bloom enters the organization, right,
- 13:49Speaker 3: and then he's going to take over. That's all public
- 13:51Speaker 3: with John Mizale, like I've known for a long time.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Obviously most put a really good stamp on this organization.
- 13:56Speaker 3: They've been very, very successful for what the past twenty years.
- 14:01Speaker 2: How do you think it'll change?
- 14:02Speaker 3: And you know, does that stuff trickle down to players
- 14:05Speaker 3: when someone comes in, especially from a different organization. The
- 14:07Speaker 3: Cardinals have had so many people in place for a
- 14:10Speaker 3: long time. There's a voice that's come from the Rays,
- 14:13Speaker 3: the Red Sox, et cetera. Is there anything that ends
- 14:16Speaker 3: up affecting you guys, obviously in a positive way.
- 14:21Speaker 1: It's kind of it's kind of hard to answer that question,
- 14:23Speaker 1: like right now, because he's not there yet. But I
- 14:26Speaker 1: mean I've talked to him a couple of times, and
- 14:28Speaker 1: he seems like a great guy. I mean a lot
- 14:31Speaker 1: of times, like Cardinals draft these players are they're like
- 14:33Speaker 1: super blue chip and super hard working guys, so kind
- 14:37Speaker 1: of to when the position that he's gonna be in
- 14:40Speaker 1: is gonna be kind of like over everyone. So, I
- 14:42Speaker 1: mean it's gonna be pretty cool to see how he
- 14:44Speaker 1: how he manages and and controls everyone in in that setting.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I like that.
- 14:49Speaker 3: Well, we will see you in Jupiter, Florida. We'll bring
- 14:53Speaker 3: our shades for John Jay. So much going on.
- 14:57Speaker 8: He look at me with my new balances on.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Come on, man, Victor.
- 15:03Speaker 2: This was awesome, man. Great to catch up with you.
- 15:04Speaker 3: Good to see and we'll see in person, you know,
- 15:06Speaker 3: in a few weeks in spring training.
- 15:08Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'll catch out man. Appreciate y'all for having me.