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Geoff Schwartz on Utah outplaying BYU, Heisman campaign for Devon Dampier, 24 team playoff better or worse for CFB (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline is here. Jeff Schwartz, welcome back. How
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is one of the better weeks
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  Speaker 3: to be a Utah youth football fan. You beat BYU
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  Speaker 3: in the Holy War in a dramatic game, and then
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  Speaker 3: your former coach, who I think everyone probably doesn't like
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  Speaker 3: at the moment or didn't like leaving, just looks like
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  Speaker 3: he is just dying. Couldn't be deader than dead as
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  Speaker 3: a coach at Michigan right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's certainly a certain number of Utah fans that
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  Speaker 2: probably take satisfaction in that. I don't count myself among them.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that Jason Beck is already out of a
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  Speaker 2: job after having the number four offense in the country
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  Speaker 2: for the Utes last year. It's just crazy. Life comes
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  Speaker 2: at you fast in the coaching world.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 3: It does. I thought it would work in Michigan. It
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  Speaker 3: just hasn't. How about your game, dude?
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  Speaker 1: 14-0.
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  Speaker 3: Then 2014, then not a point again for BYU. And
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  Speaker 3: you win by eight. You covered again. Covered machine the
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  Speaker 3: Utes are.
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  Speaker 2: What's that? Eight out of nine? Or they've covered every game?
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  Speaker 3: Every game, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably didn't cover against Colorado, right? That was 2016.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, correct. Yes, they did not cover Colorado. You're correct. Okay, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good teams win, great teams cover. Isn't that what
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  Speaker 2: they say?
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  Speaker 3: Or you can do both.
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  Speaker 2: How much of the game did you watch? This is
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  Speaker 2: actually a good concept test with the Jeff Schwartz is
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  Speaker 2: an East coast college football nut, right? If he's got
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  Speaker 2: the chance, he's watching these great games when he's home. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: this was a noon kickoff time, but you had like
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  Speaker 2: kids activities and stuff. So, uh, did, did you get
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  Speaker 2: to watch much of, or any of the Holy war live?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I watched a lot of it live.
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  Speaker 3: If I recall, um, I had a quad box with
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  Speaker 3: the other three games of the time that were good,
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  Speaker 3: but I watched most of it, yeah. I was home
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  Speaker 3: for most of it, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What did you make of Utah's, I mean, obviously BYU
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  Speaker 2: turned the ball over in very important spots. Utah's defense
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  Speaker 2: came up with some big plays. Everyone here is like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's because Utah's the greatest team on the planet. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: in Provo is like, yeah, it's because We beat ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: You are more of a neutral party. How did you
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  Speaker 2: watch the game play out?
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  Speaker 3: The turnovers were, I mean, one of them was just like,
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  Speaker 3: that's just Bear making a bad play, man. It's his fault.
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  Speaker 3: He made a bad throw. I thought Utah's offense is
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  Speaker 3: interesting where they have stretches where it looks great, stretches
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  Speaker 3: where it doesn't. Early in the game, you just sort
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  Speaker 3: of blitzed BYU, right? You were able to get the
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  Speaker 3: long run. BYU didn't really fit that correctly. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure it was the best block run I've seen, but
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  Speaker 3: Dan Perry did a good job. The touchdown, some of
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  Speaker 3: the plaques and stuff early in games, I think teams
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  Speaker 3: just can't figure out. And you guys have scored, I think,
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown on eight of your nine opening drives this season? Correct.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the stat I have correct there. Look, I
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  Speaker 3: just think BYU is a good team, not great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Utah is just better. I thought the game would be closer.
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  Speaker 3: I thought BYU would cover. I think I told you,
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  Speaker 3: but Utah would win, which didn't happen in this game.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it was more about Utah just being
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  Speaker 3: the better football team. And they showed that most of
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  Speaker 3: the game, I thought. Again, they're up early, pretty dominating.
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  Speaker 3: Then it swung the other direction quickly, but they went
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  Speaker 3: right back to Utah. In the second half of that game,
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  Speaker 3: BYU couldn't score, man. That has to account for something.
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  Speaker 1: 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I mean....
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  Speaker 2: Nobody expects it to be perfect, and obviously there were
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  Speaker 2: some aggravating moments in the game for Utah fans. But
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, this is a game
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  Speaker 2: that you needed badly from a program standpoint, right? You
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  Speaker 2: can't go four losses in a row to your rivals.
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  Speaker 2: You can't get yourself out of a conference title picture
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  Speaker 2: or make it harder in a conference title picture. And
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  Speaker 2: right now, Utah, with this win, number two-ranked team in
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  Speaker 2: the country, it's probably going to stay that way in
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  Speaker 2: the college football playoff rankings tonight, I would imagine. And
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  Speaker 2: more importantly, they're in control of their own destiny in
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  Speaker 2: the big 12 conference. How scared should we be about
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  Speaker 2: a road trip to Arizona?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this is the worst spot ever, man. This is
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  Speaker 3: the war. This is the, we've seen this spot all
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  Speaker 3: season long where team coming off big, emotional home win
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  Speaker 3: goes on the road and lays an egg. And, and I,
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  Speaker 3: I think we were wrong from the time I covered
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  Speaker 3: this team with, with you, like playing in the desert
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  Speaker 3: in November is a, a, horrors, right, for Utah?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Same with Oregon. Everyone knows it's a horror. It's a
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  Speaker 3: horror playing in the desert in November. So on top
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  Speaker 3: of that, you have all this history. Arizona can score, man.
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  Speaker 3: Nova Fida feels like it's been there forever. But they
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  Speaker 3: can score. So I think you have to feel a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of worry. But look, the game before BYU,
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  Speaker 3: Cincinnati was also a trap game. And you guys handled
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  Speaker 3: that really well. And so I don't know if I.
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  Speaker 3: Think it's going to be a trap game. Look, the
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  Speaker 3: gambling line will tell you that Vegas thinks it'll be
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  Speaker 3: a close game. It's like two, right? You're favored by
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  Speaker 3: two on the road after beating BYU. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it shows you, though, that this year, Sean, for college football,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of good, not a lot of elite teams, right? Like,
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  Speaker 3: LSU's a favorite against Texas this weekend. You're only a
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  Speaker 3: two-point favorite against Arizona this That's one of those years
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  Speaker 3: where I think there's a lot of good, probably not
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  Speaker 3: a lot of great, but you just play the games
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  Speaker 3: on your schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Two and a half is the line I'm looking at
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  Speaker 2: for Utah. Are you worried about the game? Yes, yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 2: But look, that's been the case with the Houston game,
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  Speaker 2: with the Cincinnati game, with the BYU game, and this
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  Speaker 2: team just continues to pass those tests. It's under a
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  Speaker 2: first-year head coach in Morgan Scali. with first-year coordinators and
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McGibbon and Colton Swan, and they're just all kind
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  Speaker 2: of rising to the challenge. And now Devin Dampier's name
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  Speaker 2: has entered the chat for some of the big postseason awards.
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  Speaker 2: He's got, I think, the fourth or fifth best odds
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  Speaker 2: to win a Heisman right now. And it's wild because
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have wild statistical lines. He's not a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's passing for 300 yards a game. He's just creating
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns and making big plays. Is he going to be
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  Speaker 2: in New York if he keeps it up?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, yeah. And also, look, it's not really, like,
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  Speaker 3: his fault, but it's also just sort of a down
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  Speaker 3: quarterback year for this award, right? Because I think about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, right now, you have Mensah up there, right,
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  Speaker 3: for the award, potentially. Yes, CJ Carr. And then Carr, who, like,
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  Speaker 3: even Notre Dame fans are like, what? How is he
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  Speaker 3: in this discussion for Heisman? And then, you know, Jeremiah
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  Speaker 3: Smith is, I think, clearly the best player in college football,
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  Speaker 3: but his quarterback situation is terrible, so He's not getting
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  Speaker 3: a lot of points. I think Jeremiah Smith has a
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  Speaker 3: lot of up. If you were to ask me who
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  Speaker 3: I would wager on to potentially win this award, Jeremiah
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  Speaker 3: Smith still has a lot of value because he can
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  Speaker 3: easily put up 400 yards in the next three weeks.
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  Speaker 3: But they have to win, right? You're not going to
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  Speaker 3: win the award if you don't win. So I think
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  Speaker 3: part of that's important for Ohio State as well. But
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  Speaker 3: DePere's playing great, man. Part of the position is just
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  Speaker 3: making winning plays and winning moments. And he seems to
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  Speaker 3: be one of those guys that just does a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that more than his peers do.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it. Are your Oregon
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  Speaker 2: Ducks alive again? Are they back?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we have to... I mean, we need a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things to heckle our way. I've got to work
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  Speaker 3: for USC this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to be able to do that?
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  Speaker 3: No. I'm probably better than Indiana. But if USC wins
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  Speaker 3: this weekend and then we went out, I think Iowa's
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  Speaker 3: got to lose and Illinois's got to lose one more game.
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  Speaker 3: We're in the Big Ten Championship. I feel pretty good
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  Speaker 3: about being UCLA. I'll tell you what, some of the
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  Speaker 3: worst parts of this season, though, are UCLA fans that
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  Speaker 3: I mentioned talking. I'm like, but guys, you haven't been
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  Speaker 3: good in 20 years. Can you just not poke me
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  Speaker 3: a little bit? Oregon turned over seven times in that game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a UCLA win or more
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  Speaker 3: of an Oregon loss, but yeah, we're... we're playing better. Um,
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  Speaker 3: change offensive coordinators, figure out offensive line. We had a
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  Speaker 3: really bad injury yesterday. We lost, uh, Tatum to the OD,
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  Speaker 3: who is like the heart and soul of our defense.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard. I think to win games, Sean, when you
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  Speaker 3: lose your, your quarterback of your offense and your quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: your defense, which is where we're at right now with, uh, injuries.
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  Speaker 3: So it's tough. It's tough, man. Uh, but, uh, we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: We're playing, playing better football. No, no, uh, No real
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  Speaker 3: idea if it continues or not.
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  Speaker 2: They made it official that the 2014 college football playoff
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  Speaker 2: begins next year, and it's going to be a drastic
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  Speaker 2: change for the regular season. It's going to be more
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  Speaker 2: of the same when we get to the postseason and
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  Speaker 2: the representation, at least percentage-wise, of Big Ten and SEC.
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  Speaker 2: I don't love it, but I'm also going to just say,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we'll see how it plays out. I think,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it diminishes the regular season,
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  Speaker 2: which is the whole point. of college football.
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  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? It really does. The people that
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  Speaker 3: run the sport don't care about what the fans think
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  Speaker 3: about the sport. It's very clear, right? There's a money grab.
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  Speaker 3: And the thing that frustrates me, I think, the most
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  Speaker 3: about the money grab, Sean, is they didn't even go
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  Speaker 3: for the most money. If they did, they would have
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  Speaker 3: given it to the different networks. They gave it to
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  Speaker 3: one network. Like, if you're trying to make money, which
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  Speaker 3: is what this appears to be, right? Money grab. Let's
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  Speaker 3: make as much money as we can. Wouldn't you give
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  Speaker 3: a bid out to Fox and NBC and CBS to
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  Speaker 3: own some of the playoff instead of one TV network? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what competition is there in that? So if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to do this, just do it all the way. And
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  Speaker 3: they didn't. They didn't do it all the way. They
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  Speaker 3: gave it to one. This is the only sport that
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  Speaker 3: has one network control the entire postseason.
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  Speaker 2: Very strange.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And what it does, though, and look, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that today's college football rankings are affected by what ESPN wants.
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  Speaker 3: I really don't. But it's hard to argue to people
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  Speaker 3: that ESPN has no influence. I know they say they
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  Speaker 3: have no influence whatsoever. It's paid almost $ 2 billion for
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  Speaker 3: the playoff. You don't think that they have... influence a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. If they want a team in, they can
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  Speaker 3: make a call and get a team in. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? It just sets up the idea that
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  Speaker 3: there could be a conspiracy because they defused to bid
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  Speaker 3: this out. And I've made the case for a while.
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  Speaker 3: The playoff is a playoff for teams that win a championship.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a participation tournament. Now, the counter to my
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  Speaker 3: argument would be Oregon, right? Where Oregon's really good, had
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  Speaker 3: a down stretch, and they would be in a 2014
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  Speaker 3: playoff But I also don't think we're good enough even
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  Speaker 3: to win a championship if we did get in the
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  Speaker 3: 2014 playoff, or even a 12-team playoff. We're just not
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  Speaker 3: there right now, in my opinion. So it's just something
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  Speaker 3: the sport doesn't need. We don't need more playoff games.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need games to matter less in the regular season.
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  Speaker 3: The Holy War was important because BYU loses, and they did.
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  Speaker 3: Are they a playoff team now?
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  Speaker 1: 10-2?
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  Speaker 3: I think they are because they're a game win. But
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  Speaker 3: with a 2014 playoff... They're absolutely in, right? And so
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  Speaker 3: you don't have that sense of urgency anymore.
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  Speaker 2: We need to do something with rivalry games now because
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  Speaker 2: if you play them in the last week of the
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  Speaker 2: season and you're already in the playoff, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get diminished importance on rivalry games, people resting in rivalry games.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we're going to have teams resting. I
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  Speaker 3: push back on that. I don't think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think it will. It happens in the NFL. Why
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't it happen in college football?
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  Speaker 3: The difference is rivalry games are not– you don't get
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  Speaker 3: fired for losing a rivalry game in the NFL. And
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  Speaker 3: are you telling me that if Utah had lost three
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  Speaker 3: straight Holy Wars and now you have a– you'll put
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  Speaker 3: up Berth locked up and Scali sits everyone and you
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  Speaker 3: lose to BYU a fourth time, that won't matter for
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  Speaker 3: his job and perception of the program?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't– right now– Scali is in a different category.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: What my point is that like, is that these, these,
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  Speaker 3: these games, the, the rubber games matter. They matter to
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  Speaker 3: the people that are paying money for the, for the rosters.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think coach are sitting guys, um, in
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  Speaker 3: those games.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I, I 100% hope you're right. I become jaded
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  Speaker 2: and skeptical. Anytime people are like, yeah, we have our
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  Speaker 2: playoff spot locked up. That is where the money is
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  Speaker 2: really made. So we're going to protect that, but I
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  Speaker 2: hope you're right. I genuinely do. Um, I was just
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  Speaker 2: talking about this. There are contract extensions being announced in
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  Speaker 2: college football during the season. Missouri's quarterback resigned. The Oregon
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  Speaker 2: State quarterback and wide receiver resigned. I have no idea
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  Speaker 2: how enforceable these things are. I have no idea if
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  Speaker 2: they survive when Miami backs up a Brinks truck during
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  Speaker 2: the transfer portal opening or whatever. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on in-season contract extensions for college football? Football players.
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  Speaker 3: The thing I don't get is that, like, I think
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand why now. So the argument is going
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  Speaker 3: to be that, well, this helps our recruiting class if
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  Speaker 3: we already know who's coming back, right? Like, if you're
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  Speaker 3: the Oregon State guys, you sign the two guys, like,
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  Speaker 3: their coach is probably, like, selling this to everyone. Like,
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  Speaker 3: these guys are back. Like, we can build around them,
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  Speaker 3: come to Oregon State. So I understand that part of it.
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  Speaker 3: I do. But how do you know what's out there? Look,
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  Speaker 3: are you– Oregon State's wide receiver is really good. Are
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  Speaker 3: you sure Texas is not going to call you? Oregon? Like,
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  Speaker 3: why are you signing now? That part I don't get, Sean.
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  Speaker 2: From a player standpoint, obviously, like, it doesn't make a
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  Speaker 2: ton of sense. For– Legree is the best example of this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the market's going to be like
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  Speaker 2: for the Missouri quarterback, the Austin Simmons kid. He re-signed.
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  Speaker 2: If you're the leading passer, like the Oregon State kid,
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  Speaker 2: Braden Atkinson is. I'm sure you're going to have other opportunities,
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  Speaker 2: but like Jesse Legree is going to get a phone
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  Speaker 2: call from everybody, USC and Texas and Miami and Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: They're all going to want his services. Ohio state's going
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  Speaker 2: to be like, Jeremiah Smith just got drafted. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: we need the next version of him. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way he's maximizing his leverage by taking the,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Oregon state didn't offer him $ 2 million, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, So I just also to like, there's still
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  Speaker 3: a lot of football left. And we saw Calandria, the
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  Speaker 3: Nebraska quarterback, resigned and looked terrible on Friday night. Like
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  Speaker 3: the Beaver quarterback, Atkinson, like he resigned, but he's looked
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  Speaker 3: pretty mediocre compared to how he started the year. The
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  Speaker 3: last two weeks, they're playing better teams. Like now they
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  Speaker 3: go to Boise State this weekend. If he plays poorly again,
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  Speaker 3: like what? it just feels so early to resign these guys.
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  Speaker 3: There's just so much unknown.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you're Oregon State, those make perfect sense.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you're somebody else, if you're a team
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  Speaker 2: that has the money to get something that's maybe better,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think Missouri falls in that category. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that Oregon State falls in that category. From
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  Speaker 2: a player standpoint, it doesn't make a ton of sense.
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  Speaker 2: I think from a program standpoint, your country-leading passer would
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  Speaker 2: have to fall off pretty drastically for you to not
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  Speaker 2: feel like that was a good move.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that's fair. I think that's fair to
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  Speaker 3: say that the programs want this more than the players do.
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  Speaker 3: From my perspective, now again, your salary's locked in for
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  Speaker 3: the year. You can recruit off this. But their coach
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  Speaker 3: or his coach might take another job this offseason. Then
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  Speaker 3: everything you planned for was up in smoke, right? I just...
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I think it's just difficult, in my opinion, to do
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: this now. But hey, man, maybe get ahead of it
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: and see what happens afterwards. But, you know, good for
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Oregon State to afford those guys. Their biggest potential donor
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: now probably won't be donating anytime soon. Do you know
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: who that is, by the way?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: It's Phil Knight.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: No, Oregon State.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a huge donor to Oregon State also.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Well, no. So, you know... Have you been following this
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: story about the president and CEO of this AI chip company?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So he's an Oregon State alum.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: The NVIDIA guy?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I did not know that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: He's like the richest alum of any. He's like the
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: second richest guy in the world right now. He's never
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: given money to football. He never gave money to sports
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: at Oregon State. Absolutely an Oregon State grad. Yes. The
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: NVIDIA guy.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Can you believe that?
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I did not know that. Jensen Huang, is that his name?
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. He's an Oregon State grad.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: If you haven't been paying attention, by the way, to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the tech space, because you're like me and you're a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: sports idiot, Jensen Huang, the president and CEO of NVIDIA,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: which is the biggest AI company in the world, He
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: was found having an affair with an apparent Chinese spy
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: and is likely to be forced out of his positions
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: at NVIDIA.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: He moved to the United States and settled in Beaverton, Oregon.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: And as a teenager, he went to Aloha High School
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: in Aloha, Oregon, which is outside of Portland. He skipped
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: two grades, graduated at 16, and went to Oregon State
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: due to its low tuition cost. Amazing.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Amazing.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: He studied and he graduated in 1984 and then went
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: to Stanford for a master's degree in engineering.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: All you need is what, like, here's something that if
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: you're a college football coach, if you're a college football
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: player and you want good things for the future of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: your program, go find, like, the 16-year-old early high school
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: graduate that's on campus right now and just be friendly
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: to that person because... They're the ones who end up
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: being the billionaires who could change the trajectory of your
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: athletic program. Indiana has no idea how fortunate they are. Well,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they do have an idea. Mark Cuban is
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a sports guy and a billionaire. We talked about this
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: when we were doing Pac-12 radio together. Stanford has enough
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: billionaire and multi-multi-millionaire alum that their football team should have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: all the resources in the world. But none of those
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: people donate to football because they weren't around football when
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: they were.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Correct correct um and uh and and it's it's yeah
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: if you got your billionaires to donate but again like
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: this year though you know all the teams making a
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: lot of money are not playing as well and so
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: i do wonder, we've talked about this for years now,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a little pullback at some point, right?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a little bit of pullback from
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: boosters that are not getting the return on the investment.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: They're not getting the wins that they paid for. And
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I wonder if there'll be a pullback at some point.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Did you see, I just came across my timeline, that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Diana Rossini tweeted for the first time since April? The
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: mentions are quite, what do you expect? What the internet
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: is good at, put it like that. Not good at
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: You mean she's not getting the warm welcome back that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: she expected?
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think playing the victim is a good way
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: to come back from that scandal, but that so be it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I just, it's just, I don't know, man. It's definitely,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: definitely a thing that happened in sports media.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: How much does Keenan Allen help the San Francisco 49ers?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I saw a tweet of like a bunch of old
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: guys playing like tackle football. I was like, this is
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: the Niners in two weeks, gray haired guys, um, that, uh, that, that, um, uh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: or it's, you know, look, um, I think he's a
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: good football player, but now you basically have two older
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: wide receivers, and Evans has been great. I actually think
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: he's played much better than I thought he would, to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: be fair. And I think it's just another depth guy, right?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: That's all it is to me, another depth piece. What
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: you need, you need depth pieces to be good in
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the sport and to have guys available. Is he a
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: difference maker? I don't know, Sean. I don't know. What's
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: interesting in the NFL with... with what's happening with the
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Niners and now the Vikings today with their trade. The
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Seahawks just aren't really as good. The Rams have so
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: many injuries this season. The Bears look great. And Caleb
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Williams decided to turn into whatever that was. I don't
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: know what that was in the middle of that game yesterday.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Very interesting. The NFC is basically seven teams right now.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe if you think the Texans can come into there,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: there's eight teams. Otherwise, we're pretty set on that side
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: of the bracket. The NFC is really fast because we're
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: not close to being set on that side.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Who do you think it's going to be?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I still like the Bears. I think the Bears, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: really love their trade for Simmons. You can tell immediately that,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you know, what that did for that defense, right, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: for the defensive line. And so that, to me, is
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: a really impactful trade really early. And we've seen that
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: so far. Just avoid that Caleb Williams. That was a
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: very odd performance from Caleb. He looked great until he
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: didn't really in that game. And, look, the Rams are
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: super beat up right now, which doesn't help. The Seahawks
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: are not as good. Minnesota does get Cousins, which he
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: was okay this year, not great. Better than what they have.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, last night was just an abomination of football
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and offense for the Vikings in that game. I'm sure
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: if we're getting someone else, but it feels like those
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: are the... I bet on the Bears. I think the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Bears are the team to win the NFC.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Interesting. I hope you're not right, but.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, to me, the Niners, like, how injured are
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the Niners? Like, how.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Can they make it a deep playoff run with their
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: injuries right now? Which I know Bosa's back. Is he
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: back this week or is he back soon? I forget.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't even watch him this weekend, so I don't know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was obviously a pretty big of a joke
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: game for them. They did whatever they wanted.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, we're overclocked again, or else I'd pick your brain
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: for another few minutes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: What time is it? Oh, yeah. It happens when you're
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: having fun.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: All right. You want anything from Dubai? I'm headed there
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to call some fights.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: A little Dubai chocolate. All right. I bought a lot
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: of tickets tonight because it's like a billion dollars. And
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I asked Barrett this morning if we win, what would happen?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: And she said she'd be in Dubai with a private plane. Except,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm out on private planes now.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: No.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: It's not worth it. Like, too many crashes. It's not
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: worth it. Just take a commercial flight. It's a little
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: bit longer. I get it. But buy one of those, like,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: layback seats. Like, I'm... Not that I fly private planes often,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: but just like once in my life, Oregon recruiting trip,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: but like enough private plane to me, too many crashes, man.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: What kind of, are they, isn't it usually the little
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: prop planes that are crashing north? The jets pretty solid.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: There's a jet that flew out of the sky last week.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not paying attention to every jet crash.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: But this was a huge, pretty big story. You didn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: see this last week.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think I did.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And Palm beach. Oh, wow. You probably should. Oh, okay. Well,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: A jet like had a terrible accident and like nine
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: people died last week in a, like a fire. You
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: didn't see. So like basically the plane lost like altitude
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: in like a minute, went for 40,000 feet to zero.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: And there's a video like of a, like from a
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: security camera of the plane. Like it, it, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: it's pretty graphic.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for bringing that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's why I, that's why I just fly. Like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you're flying commercial.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, I will be flying commercial.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Are you in? Are you getting a nice seat at least?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And you sleep the whole time, right?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: That's so, that's incredible. Oh, last thing quickly. I know
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: we're over time. I don't care. I'm finally doing it
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving. I'm sitting first class. My kids are sitting
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in coach.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I did it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: How far back in coach?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: So American flights go like one through four or one
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: through five first class. And then row eight is the
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: first row. of coach and they're sitting 11 all right
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: okay and they aisle aisle and window i mean aisle
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: in in uh in middle seat um and they're so
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: yeah they're in coach and we're sitting first i'm like
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: buddy i love you guys but like you don't need
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: you just watch your ipads are fine free internet now
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: for everyone so like they're gonna be their ipads for
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: five hours yeah they don't even eat the first class
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: food because they don't like it like they're not eating
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: those meals so like i'll just just we'll load up
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: your snacks in your bag you know and we'll just
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: whatever man you don't perfect i'll send you a sprite
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: back there you know i mean Whatever.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Have the stewardess, have the flight attendant go back there.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: This is from your dad.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Second class. I told you to call it second class, right?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: That's what your kids call it?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: In the past, Emmy's been like, are we seeing first
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: class or second class?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, the life of a spoiled child.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Can't relate.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Our kids are spoiled, too. Come on.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: This is from one of our texters. As a private pilot,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I have thoughts about what happened in Jeff's take on
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: it right now. That's for a whole segment, though.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: We'll do that one next.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Bye, buddy. Have a good week, everyone.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: See you.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Jeff. Jeff Schwartz, NFL veteran, former Oregon Duck, college
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: football and NFL analyst. You can see him on Sundays,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: by the way, on Fox.