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10.26.26 Seth Grossman and Pollster Rick Shaftan on WPG Radio: Early Voting and How Republican Candidates Should Campaign When Trump Dominates the News. · Seth Grossman – Liberty and Prosperity

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  - When I ran for congress against Jeff Van
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  - Drew when Jeff was a democrat, it was
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  - Rick Shafter who managed my campaign by getting
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  - me the
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  - the accurate polling I needed
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  - and,
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  - and also
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  - buying
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  - the TV ads and producing the TV ads
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  - and radio ads
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  - so that even though I only was able
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  - to raise $300,000
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  - compared to the Democrats raising more than $2,000,000,
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  - I actually did better,
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  - during that blue wave than many incumbent congressmen,
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  - like Leonard Lance
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  - in that election.
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  - And,
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  - of course, he did it because
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  - he really understands the issues,
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  - not because he's a smart guy, but because
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  - he
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  - analyzes
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  - the data. He doesn't let his emotion,
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  - get in the way of the facts,
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  - and that's, really important. And my final contact,
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  - with Rick Shafter
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  - was really heartbreaking
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  - because
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  - he was pleading
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  - with Jack Ciattarelli and the other Republicans
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  - last year,
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  - to let him
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  - suggest ways that the
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  - Republicans could win that election because
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  - almost every day, Rick Schaffner would call me
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  - and say, you know, the New Jersey Republicans
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  - are throwing away winnable elections in New Jersey
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  - starting with Jack Ciattarelli. Anyway,
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  - enough of the introductions.
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  - I I I just... Before I get to
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  - Rick Schaffner, I just wanna bring up one
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  - other important thing, and this is why I'm
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  - I'm making Rick Schaffner a special guest.
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  - The second phase of the elections begins today.
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  - As I told you last month,
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  - anyone who wanted to vote could vote through
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  - the county clerk's office
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  - with a mail in ballot or a messenger
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  - ballot. You could still do that right up
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  - until the Monday before,
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  - the final election day of November 3. But
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  - today
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  - starts another important element of voting, and that's
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  - in person voting
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  - at selected
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  - voting places in each county.
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  - The polls open at 10:00 this morning. That's
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  - Saturday morning, October twenty fourth. They'll be open
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  - till 08:00 tonight.
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  - They'll be open tomorrow, Sunday, from 10:00 to
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  - 06:00,
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  - and then they'll be open right for the
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  - next
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  - six days after that from 10AM to 8PM,
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  - right up until the Sunday before the election.
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  - Of course, the Sunday before the election will
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  - be closing at 6PM.
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  - And as soon as this program is over,
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  - by the way,
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  - I am gonna be voting today,
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  - at the Northfield office
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  - of the, of the county at at, 101
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  - Shore Road in Northfield.
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  - That's one of the polling places. Other polling
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  - places are Buena Vista Township, Egg Harbor Township
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  - at the Egg Harbor,
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  - branch of the library at 1 Swift Drive
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  - in Egg Harbor, at the Atlanta County Library
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  - in Galloway, at the Atlanta County Library in
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  - Mays Landing, at the Hamilton Family Success Center
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  - in Hamilton,
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  - and, of course, at the Shoreville Building
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  - 101,
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  - Shore Road in Northfield
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  - in Cape May.
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  - Your early voting will be at the Villas
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  - at the Lower Township Library,
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  - at the Middle Township Library at Cape May
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  - Courthouse, and at the Upper Township,
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  - library
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  - in Woodbine
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  - and in Millville. There are several locations in
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  - Millville. And in... Let me see.
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  - I think a lot of folks in Littleweg
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  - Harbor Township listen to us the,
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  - at the library in Littleweg Harbor Township. They'll
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  - have their early voting there. And also at
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  - Stafford Township
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  - at the Ocean County Southern Resource Center in
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  - Manahawkin.
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  - Alright. I've kept Rick Schaffton waiting long enough.
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  - Rick, welcome to the program. You're on the
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  - air.
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  - Hey. Good morning. Good morning, Jersey. South Jersey.
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  - Good morning. So so so I just wanna...
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  - You know, you've heard the introduction.
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  - A nice build up there. Okay. But but
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  - the reason I'm calling you, of course, two
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  - two reasons. Number one, the early voting is
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  - beginning today.
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  - And number two,
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  - starting about three or four days ago here
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  - in the South Jersey area,
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  - the Democrats
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  - finally started their attack
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  - ads on radio and TV against Jeff Van
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  - Drew, who many people assumed had a pretty
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  - safe seat.
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  - But after hearing those ads,
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  - basically linking,
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  - Jeff Van Drew to president Trump
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  - and also linking him to the the high
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  - gas prices,
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  - the war. I mean, the the whole idea
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  - that the the theme of the TV ad
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  - is something like, well, Jeff Van Drew used
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  - to be a good guy and he was
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  - a Democrat and he did all the right
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  - stuff, But then he followed Donald Trump and
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  - doing all these bad things that are ruining
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  - our lives, you know, put an end to
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  - this career politician,
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  - vote for,
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  - you know, vote for the Democrat. And, of
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  - course, I I know Jeff Andrew very well.
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  - I know he's one of the few guys
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  - who's in politics for the right reasons.
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  - He he has,
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  - ethics.
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  - He has character.
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  - He always,
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  - does things based on principle and helping the
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  - people in the district. So it's total lies
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  - what they're doing to him. He's the best
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  - congressman, I think, even though I ran against
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  - him. I got to know him so well.
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  - I I mean, he's probably the best guy
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  - in all of congress. But now
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  - how do you see it? Do you see
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  - him as as jeopardized? And if you do,
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  - what would you do for him and other
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  - Republicans who are running? So I'm gonna just
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  - be quiet now and and and hear what
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  - you have done. I mean, the first question
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  - is what has he been saying? Has he
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  - been... Is he just, like, not running any
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  - ads? Or... Because Republicans have a lot of
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  - accomplishments from this congress, which nobody seems to
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  - know about.
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  - I mean, the the the the Green News
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  - scam gets ended.
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  - Illegal aliens are thrown off all kinds of
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  - government assistance.
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  - Medicaid slackers are being taken off the roles.
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  - Right? I mean, they're doing a lot of
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  - things that NPR defunded,
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  - USAID
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  - defunded. Right? A lot of things that are
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  - that are positive.
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  - I mean, is he talking about any of
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  - that? Is he talking about his record or
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  - what he's done in in other things? Anything
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  - he's done for South Jersey?
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  - I mean, I I... So
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  - in other words I I I I believe
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  - I believe he He allowed himself to be
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  - in a position
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  - where he can just get sucker punched.
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  - I mean, a lot a lot of incumbents,
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  - they they leave themselves open because they don't
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  - talk about
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  - what they've done. They make these stupid personality
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  - ads where they're walking on the beach and,
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  - you know, and pointing and... Right. It's just
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  - it's just all... And and, you know, when
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  - you're looking at that ad by itself and
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  - you're a candidate, it looks fine. When you're
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  - watching TV and you see six ads that
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  - look exactly the same, you just tune them
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  - all out, and that's exactly what voters are
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  - doing with these types of ads. So I
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  - don't really know what he's got up on
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  - the air, what he should be doing. I
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  - mean, here's what he should be doing.
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  - Because there's there's two messages. Right? Each side
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  - has a message. Now with a message for
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  - Democrats,
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  - it's... This is tough to figure out. It's
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  - not inflation.
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  - It's not gas prices.
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  - It's not, you know, diesel fuel. It's not,
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  - corruption as people say. It's not... It's it's
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  - just one thing. It's Trump. They just hate
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  - Trump. So they're coming out to get even
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  - with Trump. They hate Trump.
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  - On the Republican side, it's not like people
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  - love Trump the way they did at one
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  - time. I mean, it's just been around for
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  - now ten years, eleven years.
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  - Right? So it's...
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  - There's a certain level of just fatigue. It's
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  - just, you know, that you... Everybody has to
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  - kind of redo their act after a while,
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  - and you kinda have new things.
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  - So... But what does motivate Republicans is this
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  - concern
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  - about socialism, communism,
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  - and the Democrats' border policies that they're just
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  - gonna defund ICE and and,
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  - you know, just let every, you know, everybody
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  - from Somalia and every other weirdo place in...
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  - Into the country.
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  - Well, well, I have to...
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  - Is Andrew talking about
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  - fighting the left, fighting socialism?
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  - Yeah. He he he... He got his ads.
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  - Yes. Yes. He... Wait. Can you hear me,
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  - Rick?
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  - To answer your question, yes. He has. So
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  - so he has been painting,
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  - his opponent, Democratic He's gonna be in a
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  - in a good position. He needs to really
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  - step down hard on on this guy's neck
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  - and just say that
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  - that
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  - this is this is just a vote for
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  - whatever this Democrat's name is. It's also a
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  - vote for Hakim Jeffries. It's a vote to
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  - end... It... It's a vote to undo
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  - everything we've done over the last two years.
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  - Well, let me let me do this.
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  - Chris, do we have the, the tape of,
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  - president Trump saying pretend I'm on the ballot?
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  - I'm all flipped. Yeah. Okay. What I'd like
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  - you to do,
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  - and I I wanna know if I don't
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  - think I don't I don't think that's a
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  - great strategy for No. No. No. No. No.
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  - No. No. I'm not talking this as a
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  - strategy. I just want to inform our voters
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  - that right now, one thing has happened. You
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  - said that the Democrats are making Trump the
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  - number one issue. And That's their... No. It
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  - said that... Well, it's it's not that they're
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  - necessarily making it their number one issue. It's
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  - the number one issue with people who are
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  - voting for Democratic candidates. In other words,
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  - when you ask people who are... When you
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  - ask people what party you wanna see run
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  - congress, the people who say they want the
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  - Democrats to run congress, when you ask them
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  - what's the number one problem facing America,
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  - they say... Almost all of them say Trump.
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  - Alright. Well, let me let Trump. They just
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  - hate Trump. I mean, it's just We don't
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  - like them. They don't like his policies. And
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  - Alright. Well, let let let me just put
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  - it this way.
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  - Like, you're doing the polling. And right now,
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  - the polling seems to indicate
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  - that
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  - 35 to 40% of voters
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  - favor Trump
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  - and somewhere between
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  - 6065%
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  - oppose him. Now, of course,
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  - the Republicans,
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  - or the Trump supporters are saying, well, those
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  - polls are are fake. They're just being used
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  - to,
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  - to to discourage turnout by,
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  - you know, by by Republicans to get to
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  - to get them so they're demoralized.
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  - And, of course, the Democrats are saying that
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  - they're they're real, that there is a real
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  - dislike of of Trump, and they're trying to
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  - play on it by tying every single
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  - Republican candidate to Trump any way they can.
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  - But here's what surprises me. It seems that
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  - president Trump
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  - thinks that he's the most important issue or
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  - should be the most important issue of the
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  - campaign. And I just wanna play a clip
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  - of of what he seems to be saying
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  - as he goes around, and let me know
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  - your reaction to that. Chris, do you have
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  - that that clip?
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  - Uh-huh. A president, Democrat or Republican,
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  - almost never wins the midterms. We've gotta change
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  - that because we have something going that's so
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  - good. We can't let that string
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  - be
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  - broken. So I'm asking you
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  - to pretend that I'm on the ballot. I'm
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  - on the ballot.
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  - I'm on the ballot.
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  - Okay. You you could cut that. So, basically,
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  - you know, Trump is going around the country
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  - saying he wants everyone to pretend he's on
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  - the ballot, that the whole issue is,
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  - do you support Trump or not support Trump?
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  - And, of course, the Democrats
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  - are also wanna make the whole election about,
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  - Trump. And and that's why in in almost
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  - every ad I see... And, of course, here
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  - in South Jersey, we see a whole lot
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  - more Philadelphia
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  - and Pennsylvania ads on our, you know, our
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  - major networks than we do the,
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  - you know, the the local ads.
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  - And and I also noticed that the network
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  - news, it used to be the network news,
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  - ABC, CBS, NBC,
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  - CNN,
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  - MS Now. It used to be that if
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  - Trump would be giving a major address or
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  - a major rally, they would not even mention
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  - it.
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  - They wouldn't mention it all. But now
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  - Trump could be speaking at a high school
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  - in South Dakota, and and all the major
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  - networks are covering it as if it's major
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  - news.
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  - So it seems to me like both the
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  - Democrats
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  - and Trump want Trump to be
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  - headline news every day. Now how... I mean,
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  - from what you're pulling, and I I do
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  - respect your polling. You you poll for a
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  - bunch of candidates around the country.
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  - What type of effect is that having on
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  - the election? And
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  - and I I know you told me off
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  - the air that there are some Republicans who
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  - are doing very well
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  - in make... In defining the issues with their
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  - ads, and they're showing up well in the
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  - polls, and others are not doing very well.
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  - So please tell me how the Trump effect
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  - is affecting the election and what candidates are
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  - doing to,
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  - to to deal with it in the best
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  - possible way.
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  - So candidates are not putting Trump in their
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  - ads. I mean, that's not like anything I'm
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  - saying. It's what's...
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  - I mean, no. Republicans
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  - aren't doing this because it's...
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  - I mean, politics is not a loyalty test.
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  - It's not like... And some people think it
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  - is, and and the president's kinda said it's
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  - not a loyalty test. It's about ideas. It's
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  - about the future.
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  - Right now, we're going into the last congress
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  - of Donald Trump, but we're also leading into
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  - the post Trump years. And what this election
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  - should be about is the post Trump years.
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  - It should be setting the stage for the
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  - post Trump era.
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  - Right? Because the day after the election, the
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  - presidential campaign is gonna start.
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  - And,
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  - so that's one thing. But another thing for
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  - whatever this is worth,
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  - right, is that if... Imagine that the worst
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  - case scenario... I mean, right now before you
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  - came on, we're sitting there, the justice department's
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  - talking about the Alaska senate race. The fact
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  - that we're even discussing
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  - losing a senate race in Alaska is a
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  - problem right there.
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  - Okay? I mean, Alaska shouldn't be a competitive
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  - state.
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  - But we're good talking about... And you can
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  - say, oh, there's two Dan Sullivan. That's not
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  - why it's competitive.
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  - Right? It's not because there's two Dan Sullivan's
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  - on the ballot.
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  - Because everybody in Alaska knows which one's the
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  - real Dan Sullivan and which one isn't.
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  - This is just a situation where we're just,
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  - on on on defense here.
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  - And now they're they're going at... We're not
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  - worried about trying to take out Nellie Poe.
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  - We're, like, we're worried about saving Jeff Van
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  - Drew. They've already kinda written off Tom Kane.
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  - So...
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  - And why is this? Because all these candidates
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  - across the country
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  - spent the month of September
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  - making these silly image ads, like the ones
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  - I would... The the proverbial walking on the
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  - beach, holding your kids' hands, and, you know,
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  - throwing a beach ball. And we saw this
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  - stupid nonsense that we see all over TV.
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  - So Democrats were laying the groundwork on issues
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  - and talking about Trump, mostly Trump.
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  - And now we're on defense.
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  - So what Van Drew has to do... I
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  - mean, he's got a zillion dollars in the
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  - bank, I'm sure. He's gotta be all over
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  - the place, but, you know, it's also changed.
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  - It also used to be
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  - you had to be on broadcast TV.
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  - Well, now it's streaming.
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  - You really don't have to be on broadcast
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  - TV.
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  - I mean, it's it's just a declining number
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  - of people who have cable,
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  - who have, you know, DirecTV and
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  - are watching local news. More people watching national
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  - news.
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  - So it's really... Everything's just changed.
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  - Alright. And and the campaigns has come way
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  - down too, which is another thing. That's a
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  - long term thing. But right now, Andrew's gotta
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  - go hard negative, and and he's got to
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  - identify this
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  - this Democrat
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  - against him as being part of the far
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  - left
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  - and what they'll do, what the... His election
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  - mean. Not do we need to keep the
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  - Jeff Van Drew for this reason because that's
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  - not gonna be compelling at this point.
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  - And and I think he he has been
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  - doing it. And I have to admit, I've
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  - been a little bit out of touch because
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  - I I don't watch all the all the
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  - TV and and all the things. So here's
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  - one other thing I like to to talk
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  - talk to you about. Rick, are you there?
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  - Yeah. Alright. So now about the early voting.
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  - Now the the early voting
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  - started
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  - for the past twenty years, and we saw
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  - it. And it was all done by Democrats
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  - so they could,
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  - you know, they they... Democrats relied on these
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  - dependent voters who depended on the one hand.
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  - They depend on all these government programs. They
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  - got free rent. They got free medical. They
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  - got free this, free that, free heat vouchers,
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  - free electric bills.
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  - And, of course, they were always told that
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  - the reason you're getting all this free stuff
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  - is the Democrats are giving it to you.
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  - And if the Republicans ever get in, they'll
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  - take it away from you. That was what
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  - what the the... All these Democrats...... Republicans should
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  - Republicans should campaign on that. I mean, because
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  - we're getting the downside of it. Right? Roe,
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  - they're gonna take away your benefits. We should
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  - have asked, hey. We're gonna take away their
• 16:25
  - benefits.
• 16:26
  - Right. This is, like, this is what the
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  - Republicans have done in Congress. We cut all
• 16:30
  - these people off Medicaid who shouldn't be get
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  - Medicaid. Right. They should be in an ad.
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  - I I I know. And and and so
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  - all these dependent people... But... So the downside
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  - for the Democrats, of course, for years and
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  - years is all these dependent people were so
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  - helpless and so dependent or so,
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  - under the influence of drugs or alcohol or
• 16:47
  - whatever that when election day would come out,
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  - their community organizers had a heck of a
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  - time
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  - drag him to the polls on one election
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  - day. Exactly.
• 16:56
  - So so the Democrats people are 60. Well,
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  - that's what that's 2020. He said the 2020
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  - story was the Democrats had a sixty day
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  - election day, and we're telling people wait till
• 17:06
  - election day to vote. Right. So so so
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  - what the what the... This extended voting does,
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  - it it not only, you know, the Democrats
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  - don't have to round up all their dependent,
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  - low motivated, low information voters
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  - on one day. They now have,
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  - six weeks to get them, and they don't
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  - even have to drag them to the polls.
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  - They just have to have fill out those...
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  - A simple couple forms Right. And their votes
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  - count as much as everybody photo ID.
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  - So so I so I remember you were
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  - telling me in 2020
• 17:36
  - that that's why Trump had a problem in
• 17:38
  - 2020, you know, not so much because of
• 17:40
  - a stolen election, but just that the Democrats
• 17:43
  - were spending sixty days rounding up all these
• 17:45
  - people and filling out the forms
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  - where Trump was saying, oh, don't don't worry
• 17:49
  - about anything. Just you show up on election
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  - day. And and I... And and you pointed
• 17:53
  - out that that was really the
• 17:55
  - difference that that did Trump and a lot
• 17:58
  - of Republicans in in that twenty twenty election.
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  - And and also and also the legal team
• 18:02
  - that was completely inept, that was not challenging
• 18:04
  - any of these regulations before the election. And
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  - then you have to say, well, you can't
• 18:08
  - challenge them before the election.
• 18:10
  - Actually, you can't challenge them after the election.
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  - They have to challenge everything before the election.
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  - And why they weren't doing this Right. Mean,
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  - it was... It just...
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  - You know? And there's, yeah, you know, Pennsylvania
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  - Pennsylvania.
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  - Remember, act 77,
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  - which allowed for all those mail in ballots,
• 18:25
  - that was pushed through by Republicans.
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  - Wow. That wasn't Democrats. That was Republicans who
• 18:30
  - pushed that through. That Tom Wolf signed it,
• 18:33
  - but reput... There was a Republican
• 18:35
  - house and senate that sent it to him.
• 18:38
  - And how come no one from the political
• 18:40
  - team called up and said, hey. This is
• 18:41
  - a crazy idea. Why are you doing this?
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  - Alright. But but whether whether
• 18:45
  - we like it or not, the Democrats pulled
• 18:48
  - it off. So I I guess you were
• 18:50
  - you were giving it We have the yeah.
• 18:52
  - Yeah. You were giving advice at what you
• 18:53
  - thought Jeff Andrew could could do, and I'm
• 18:56
  - giving advice what everyone listening to this program
• 18:58
  - could do. Because everybody
• 19:00
  - listening to me right now
• 19:02
  - who supports,
• 19:04
  - you know, the Republican values, supports, you know,
• 19:07
  - constitution government, all that. Everybody
• 19:09
  - knows somebody in our circle of friends
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  - or somebody
• 19:13
  - in our family
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  - who couldn't care less in the... About the
• 19:17
  - election. They're not gonna vote. They don't watch
• 19:19
  - TV. You know, they... All they do is,
• 19:20
  - you know, worry about the early bird specials
• 19:23
  - or whatever.
• 19:24
  - And the only way that person in our
• 19:26
  - circle of friends or our family, the only
• 19:28
  - way they're gonna vote is if we either,
• 19:30
  - you know, go up to them and say,
• 19:32
  - please, can you do me a favor and
• 19:33
  - come to the polls and vote for me,
• 19:35
  - or fill out the form.
• 19:37
  - And so if we have a couple of
• 19:38
  - thousand people
• 19:40
  - listening to me right now, and everybody listening
• 19:42
  - to me right now could pull in just
• 19:44
  - one or or two other people, or maybe
• 19:46
  - your niece or nephew at college who would
• 19:48
  - never ever vote. But if you get them
• 19:50
  - the forms, if you drive them to,
• 19:52
  - one of those early voting locations
• 19:55
  - here in the next week, they might actually
• 19:56
  - vote. That could actually shape the election, and
• 19:58
  - the Democrats are doing it. Right?
• 20:01
  - Well, the Democrats are doing this,
• 20:03
  - and the reason they're able to do it
• 20:05
  - is because they're all motivated.
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  - And
• 20:08
  - our people are less motivated, so there's less
• 20:10
  - people who are gonna be doing it. And
• 20:11
  - that's the problem. Yeah. And and that's... Yeah.
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  - It's up to the it's up to the
• 20:15
  - campaigns
• 20:16
  - to motivate people. So what do you do
• 20:17
  - now? Essentially, there's seven days left because if
• 20:19
  - you're making an ad, it's not gonna be
• 20:21
  - on TV till Tuesday.
• 20:23
  - And if you're making a social media ad,
• 20:25
  - you have to have it approved by Facebook
• 20:27
  - by tomorrow night or it's not airing.
• 20:30
  - So everything has to be done, like, now,
• 20:32
  - like this week today.
• 20:33
  - And,
• 20:34
  - Van Drew, hopefully, has already got an ad
• 20:36
  - up on the air on this clown.
• 20:39
  - You know, if not, he's not gonna get
• 20:41
  - up till Tuesday, and he's gonna have the
• 20:42
  - whole weekend. And it's gonna look a little
• 20:44
  - reactive, but they certainly had enough time to...
• 20:47
  - You know, I'm the one that's getting asked.
• 20:49
  - Wednesday? I believe they came out Wednesday and
• 20:51
  - Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got announced Wednesday
• 20:54
  - that they were spending all this money. So
• 20:56
  - Van Drew should have been, you know, had
• 20:58
  - him call his consultant up, get me an
• 20:59
  - ad overnight. And and and maybe maybe he
• 21:01
  - is. And and in all fairness, I I
• 21:04
  - I thing. Yeah. I I don't I don't
• 21:05
  - wanna
• 21:06
  - say anything without knowing because, I had a
• 21:09
  - personal thing. I had my... Some grandkids in,
• 21:11
  - over over the last couple days. So I
• 21:13
  - was not really in it and watching TV.
• 21:15
  - But Here's the problem that guys like Jeff
• 21:17
  - have. Right? They're... They they have a consultant
• 21:19
  - who's on, like, 200 other races.
• 21:21
  - And Jeff's wasn't one of the priority ones
• 21:24
  - because he's considered to be in good shape,
• 21:25
  - and he has never a problem. Well, suddenly,
• 21:28
  - Jeff's freaking out, and he's got a problem.
• 21:29
  - So he calls his consultants up, and his
• 21:31
  - consultant's, like, going crazy dealing with all these
• 21:34
  - other races where everybody else is panicking.