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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome the Late Debate. Well, good evening and thanks for
- 0:08Speaker 1: joining us.
- 0:08Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and our newest member
- 0:11Speaker 2: of the Late Debate, Danika to Georgia.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Have to welcoming. Thank you so much, it's great to
- 0:15Speaker 3: be here. Excited to join you too.
- 0:17Speaker 1: How do you feel about having Denica as part of
- 0:19Speaker 1: the time ago.
- 0:20Speaker 4: I'm a bit confused actually here we go.
- 0:23Speaker 5: Because as you would all know, I'm an AFL man,
- 0:25Speaker 5: as are you, James, and great to have the footy
- 0:27Speaker 5: back on the weekend. But I've spent all weekend brushing
- 0:30Speaker 5: up on my nur ill knowledge because I thought we
- 0:33Speaker 5: were getting dann Ka Mason and now I find out.
- 0:36Speaker 6: I'm so sorry that this is such a downgrade for you.
- 0:40Speaker 6: Caleb Bond am very excited about being part of the
- 0:43Speaker 6: show and I've got to deal with these two now.
- 0:46Speaker 4: I am looking forward to it despite the shock.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Thanks.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Well, we should point out on a fl Deneka as
- 0:51Speaker 2: a West Coast Eagles supporter, so we expect to be
- 0:53Speaker 2: pretty depressed for the next couple of months. Bryan lighting
- 0:57Speaker 2: things up.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Hey you're in North Melbourne for that's right.
- 1:00Speaker 3: We can't talk.
- 1:00Speaker 2: We'll share our pain together. Let's talk about what's coming
- 1:03Speaker 2: up tonight. Outrage in Victoria after the Center Allen government
- 1:07Speaker 2: announces at tax on people wanting to look at rock formations.
- 1:12Speaker 1: The relationship between.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Donald Trump and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer goes from
- 1:15Speaker 2: frosty to even frostier, and controversy in the United States
- 1:19Speaker 2: after three former presidents use Jesse Jackson's funeral to make
- 1:23Speaker 2: cheap political points.
- 1:25Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Shortly, but first he would have heard Paul Murray talking
- 1:29Speaker 2: about news that the Supreme Leader of Iran, or at
- 1:32Speaker 2: least the new Supreme Leader, the Ietola's son, has been
- 1:36Speaker 2: wounded in attacks over the last couple of days. Now,
- 1:40Speaker 2: details are still coming to light as to when he
- 1:43Speaker 2: was wounded and how bad the injuries are. But cayleb
- 1:46Speaker 2: this is pretty significant because the moment they announced that
- 1:50Speaker 2: Mattaba would be did I say his name right? Mattaba
- 1:53Speaker 2: would be the new Supreme Leader. He was a marked
- 1:56Speaker 2: man and it was only a matter of time before
- 1:59Speaker 2: he was taedeted and indeed wounded or killed by US
- 2:03Speaker 2: and Israeli forces. So we find out just a few
- 2:05Speaker 2: days after he became the new leader.
- 2:08Speaker 1: He's been injured.
- 2:09Speaker 5: Indeed, I mean it's effectively trying to set up a dynasty,
- 2:11Speaker 5: isn't it, which traditionally they've tried to avoid in Iran,
- 2:15Speaker 5: But that is seemingly what they're trying to do here.
- 2:18Speaker 5: And if you end up with the son of the
- 2:20Speaker 5: guy who was previously running the show is now running
- 2:23Speaker 5: the show, do you really expect there's going to be
- 2:25Speaker 5: any great change in terms of the regime. So I
- 2:28Speaker 5: don't think it's a surprise at all that he may
- 2:31Speaker 5: will have been caught in a skirmish or injured in
- 2:33Speaker 5: some way, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him
- 2:36Speaker 5: knocked off himself within the next couple of weeks, because
- 2:39Speaker 5: if they want to achieve any kind of genuine regime change,
- 2:42Speaker 5: and I understand that is.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Difficult to do.
- 2:45Speaker 5: It's basically impossible to do if you've simply got a
- 2:48Speaker 5: continuation of the same family.
- 2:50Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is as well.
- 2:51Speaker 6: Donald Trump said only twenty four hours ago that he
- 2:53Speaker 6: will not back down unless Iran fully surrenders, and he
- 2:56Speaker 6: made warnings that even if there are successes to the Ayatola,
- 3:00Speaker 6: he has said, you will be killed.
- 3:01Speaker 3: He's been very firm on that.
- 3:03Speaker 6: When you've got the US dropping two thousand pound bombs
- 3:05Speaker 6: taking control of the Iranian airspace, you know, sinking all
- 3:09Speaker 6: of their ships, going after their oil fields, what chance
- 3:13Speaker 6: does any new leader had. Donald Trump is winning this
- 3:16Speaker 6: war tenfold. So if you know these reports are true,
- 3:20Speaker 6: and we're still trying to verify exactly the whereabouts of
- 3:23Speaker 6: this successor and his status, but you can't be surprised
- 3:27Speaker 6: by it at all. And Donald Trump is fully in charge.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Well, if more details come to light throughout the night,
- 3:32Speaker 2: we'll certainly bring them to you. Let's talk about council
- 3:36Speaker 2: workers in Melbourne, because a Melbourne councilor has been suspended
- 3:39Speaker 2: from a month after making unwarranted and inappropriate comments during
- 3:43Speaker 2: a debate on Christmas decorations. When Knox councilors voted against
- 3:48Speaker 2: spending money on red bows to decorate local shopping centers.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Councilor Peter Lockwood, well, he let loose. Now embrace yourselves.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Here's what he told his colleagues. He told them, quote,
- 3:59Speaker 2: what of grinches you are? It's a trifling amount and
- 4:03Speaker 2: it adds to the heart of Christmas.
- 4:04Speaker 1: You all lack heart.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Now I'm not sure if his colleagues are grinches, but
- 4:09Speaker 2: it does seem they are a pack of snowflakes because
- 4:11Speaker 2: they didn't take well to being told they lacked heart.
- 4:13Speaker 2: And Peter Lockwood was suspended from council meetings for a month. Now,
- 4:18Speaker 2: I should point out there were a couple of other
- 4:20Speaker 2: issues council. Lockwood had apparently engaged on Facebook with people
- 4:24Speaker 2: who were critical of his council colleagues, and he made
- 4:27Speaker 2: public an internal email from the former mayor along with
- 4:30Speaker 2: his own disparaging commentary.
- 4:32Speaker 1: But honestly, suspend.
- 4:33Speaker 2: It for a month for just that, Cayley, you get
- 4:36Speaker 2: less time in Victoria for a carjacking.
- 4:37Speaker 5: Oh, get over it. Like if you can't take the heat,
- 4:41Speaker 5: get out of the kitchen.
- 4:43Speaker 4: You're in politics.
- 4:44Speaker 5: It pains me to refer to councils as a form
- 4:47Speaker 5: of government, local government as they always like to call themselves,
- 4:51Speaker 5: and to suggest that it is politics. But it is
- 4:54Speaker 5: to some degree. There's a lot of peddling around involved
- 4:56Speaker 5: in this form of politics, but still it is a
- 4:58Speaker 5: form of politics in some way. And in politics sometimes
- 5:02Speaker 5: you come under attack. Sometimes there are robust discussions. Heck,
- 5:07Speaker 5: sometimes people even insult you. I mean, just ask Lydia
- 5:11Speaker 5: Thorpe the treatment she received from Senator Pauline Hanson the
- 5:15Speaker 5: other day. You know, mister speaker, the racist called me
- 5:19Speaker 5: a bitch for instance.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Right, this is just the rough and tumble of politics.
- 5:25Speaker 5: If you can't hack, if the counselors can't hack being
- 5:28Speaker 5: called grinches because I don't want to spend a few
- 5:31Speaker 5: grand on red bows at Christmas time, then just handing
- 5:34Speaker 5: your card and go and find something else to do.
- 5:37Speaker 5: Maybe you'd be more at home in a childcare scene
- 5:40Speaker 5: as one of the children, for instance, then you would
- 5:43Speaker 5: be on a council. Because if you can't deal with
- 5:45Speaker 5: being called a grinch, I'm sorry politics ain't for you.
- 5:48Speaker 3: But also like grinch, I mean I could call it
- 5:50Speaker 3: the two grinches. Which are you going to dop me in?
- 5:52Speaker 1: Am h You won't do that.
- 5:55Speaker 3: You would absolutely do that.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Your first episode. He's ready, You're resulting.
- 6:00Speaker 3: You dis me at the start of the show.
- 6:02Speaker 6: Now, look, I've got to say, this is exactly why
- 6:04Speaker 6: people hate counsels because imagine being so stupid, Imagine being
- 6:10Speaker 6: such a dumb counsel that you are arguing over red
- 6:13Speaker 6: bows at Christmas.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Seriously, give me a break, and we say this all
- 6:18Speaker 3: the time.
- 6:19Speaker 6: Whatever happened to the humble roads rates and rubbish?
- 6:23Speaker 3: Whatever happened to that?
- 6:24Speaker 6: And what I actually find offensive from councils. This is
- 6:27Speaker 6: what I would find offensive. This is what I think
- 6:29Speaker 6: would warrant suspension. You've got counselors this week in parts
- 6:32Speaker 6: of Sydney who are openly mourning the death of the
- 6:36Speaker 6: Aya Toller. That's offensive. You have got Sydney Lord Mayor
- 6:40Speaker 6: clover moored. Don't forget that she was marching across the
- 6:42Speaker 6: Harbor Bridge with a photo of the Ayatola.
- 6:46Speaker 3: In the background. That to me is offensive.
- 6:48Speaker 6: You've got other councils in parts of Australia who were
- 6:51Speaker 6: trying to move anti Israel boycott motions Again, that is offensive.
- 6:57Speaker 6: Calling people grinches and being suspended for Please go and
- 7:01Speaker 6: find another job. These counselors, they've obviously got nothing to
- 7:04Speaker 6: do with their lives.
- 7:05Speaker 3: Get back to roads, rates and rubbish, because that is
- 7:07Speaker 3: what we expect of you.
- 7:09Speaker 2: I reckon he was pretty stiff to get four week
- 7:11Speaker 2: suspension for calling people glinches. There was a Merrybeck councilor's
- 7:15Speaker 2: in Melbourne who got a two week suspension for telling
- 7:17Speaker 2: colleagues they were duplicious and a Hobart counselor who got
- 7:22Speaker 2: seven day suspension for calling a fellow counselor a clown man.
- 7:28Speaker 2: You know, this is not something that is rare in
- 7:30Speaker 2: Australian politics. Local councilors insulting each other bit seriously have
- 7:36Speaker 2: a teaspoon of cement the.
- 7:38Speaker 5: Councils that it would diminish public trust and bring the
- 7:41Speaker 5: council into.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Disrepe Oh, come on, I calling someone a grinch.
- 7:44Speaker 5: I think the council's done enough to like erode Councilors
- 7:47Speaker 5: across the country have done enough to erode public trust
- 7:50Speaker 5: without worrying about someone calling his colleague.
- 7:52Speaker 6: But also, how does it get to that point where
- 7:54Speaker 6: you are arguing over both you know, how do you
- 7:57Speaker 6: get to that point where you're so bitter and you're
- 8:00Speaker 6: so vicious Christmas decorations, it's meant to be the happiest time.
- 8:04Speaker 4: Of the year, by the bloody bows.
- 8:06Speaker 5: Wouldness say, I'll tell you what else would diminish public confidence?
- 8:10Speaker 5: Not in a council, but let's say a state government. Now,
- 8:13Speaker 5: last week Friday, there was new ramping data released in
- 8:17Speaker 5: South Australia. Ambulance ramping, of course, I'm talking about because
- 8:20Speaker 5: they've got a state election coming up in less than
- 8:22Speaker 5: two weeks now, you'll be able to watch all the
- 8:24Speaker 5: coverage here on the twenty first of March Ratiirska News
- 8:28Speaker 5: six point thirty Australian Eastern daylight time six o'clock in
- 8:31Speaker 5: South Australia.
- 8:33Speaker 4: But the Malinowskis government.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Before they were elected in twenty twenty two see it
- 8:38Speaker 5: down equivocally that they would fix the ramping crisis. Well,
- 8:42Speaker 5: the February data is out and it shows that ramping
- 8:45Speaker 5: is worse than it was when Labor came to government
- 8:49Speaker 5: four years ago.
- 8:50Speaker 4: So a woman by the name of Bronwin.
- 8:52Speaker 5: Patterson came out to tell her story of her husband,
- 8:56Speaker 5: Stephen King, who had terminal cancer, who in the hours
- 9:00Speaker 5: before his death, was ramped.
- 9:02Speaker 4: Take a look.
- 9:04Speaker 7: Precious memories like these are all Bronwyn has left of
- 9:08Speaker 7: her partner, Steve a year ago today, after a long
- 9:11Speaker 7: battle with cancer. He spent some of his final moments
- 9:15Speaker 7: stuck in an ambulance.
- 9:17Speaker 8: It was quite bewildering that we were ramped, given that.
- 9:22Speaker 9: Steve was clearly dying.
- 9:23Speaker 7: Outside the Royal Adelaide on a hot March day, held
- 9:27Speaker 7: up for more than an hour triaraged as a lower
- 9:30Speaker 7: priority terminal patient.
- 9:32Speaker 8: We were never under any illusions that Steve was going
- 9:34Speaker 8: to go, but probably especially those last forty eight hours
- 9:40Speaker 8: of his life were really really difficult.
- 9:44Speaker 5: I mean, what a horrific story and an example of
- 9:48Speaker 5: what ramping does in your hour of need, in your
- 9:51Speaker 5: final hours of your life, you spend it in the
- 9:53Speaker 5: back of an ambulance instead of getting the.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Care you need before you die.
- 9:58Speaker 5: So Bronwin tells her story, it was Friday, and then
- 10:01Speaker 5: the state government the next day he decided that they
- 10:04Speaker 5: would release an email from Stephen King in which he
- 10:08Speaker 5: said that he loved the treatment he received from the
- 10:12Speaker 5: state's healthcare system, except was it the same Stephen King.
- 10:18Speaker 10: In response to her sharing her story last night, health
- 10:21Speaker 10: Minister Chris Picton's office released a glowing endorsement of the
- 10:23Speaker 10: health system from an email address someone named Stephen King
- 10:27Speaker 10: sent to the state government in twenty twenty three. But
- 10:30Speaker 10: while being shown that email, I.
- 10:32Speaker 9: Actual feel quite sick after.
- 10:33Speaker 10: Reading that, Miss Patterson claims the Stephen King who sent
- 10:37Speaker 10: that email was not her partner.
- 10:39Speaker 9: It's insulting to the family that you couldn't even be
- 10:43Speaker 9: bothered finding the right person.
- 10:45Speaker 10: She says he wasn't a plumber like the email suggests,
- 10:48Speaker 10: and that he was diagnosed in twenty twenty one, a
- 10:51Speaker 10: different year to the time given in the email, and
- 10:54Speaker 10: that he didn't get treatment from certain hospitals listed in
- 10:56Speaker 10: the correspondence.
- 10:58Speaker 3: To read it.
- 11:00Speaker 9: And see it was the wrong person, I'm that traumatized me.
- 11:07Speaker 5: So to be clear, The Health Minister of South Australia
- 11:11Speaker 5: has dug up a private email sent from a man
- 11:14Speaker 5: called Stephen King in order to discredit the story of
- 11:19Speaker 5: a woman whose partner who had terminal cancer died after
- 11:23Speaker 5: being ramped in an ambulance and they actually picked the
- 11:27Speaker 5: wrong guy. I mean, there are so many things wrong
- 11:30Speaker 5: with this. A why would you go after a woman
- 11:32Speaker 5: whose partner died of cancer after being ramped in the
- 11:35Speaker 5: back of one of your ambulances And couldn't you do
- 11:38Speaker 5: your due diligence to check whether or not there's more
- 11:40Speaker 5: than one Stephen King in South Australia. But the Premier,
- 11:44Speaker 5: Peter Malanowska says today that the Health Minister, mister Chris Pichton,
- 11:48Speaker 5: will not be facing any consequences for this. He says
- 11:50Speaker 5: every politician in the country makes mistakes, and when they
- 11:53Speaker 5: make mistakes, they feel it, they know about it, and
- 11:56Speaker 5: they face pretty harsh consequences through the scrutiny that he's
- 12:00Speaker 5: appropriately applied.
- 12:02Speaker 4: I think that is a cop out. I mean the
- 12:04Speaker 4: fact that they even in the first.
- 12:06Speaker 5: Place, tried to discredit her story. They didn't have to
- 12:10Speaker 5: respond to that in that way. You say, look, we're
- 12:13Speaker 5: very sorry that your partner died in those circumstances. That's
- 12:17Speaker 5: all you need to say. You don't try and discredit her.
- 12:19Speaker 5: But then to use a false a false email, but
- 12:21Speaker 5: an email from someone who was not her partner in
- 12:24Speaker 5: order to do it and no consequence.
- 12:27Speaker 2: But then the South Australian Premier has made it even
- 12:29Speaker 2: worse because that quote you read out, he's now claiming
- 12:32Speaker 2: the Health Minister is the real victim here because he's
- 12:35Speaker 2: made a mistake in getting the wrong email and he
- 12:38Speaker 2: feels bad about it and faces some pretty tough consequences
- 12:42Speaker 2: because people like us will be talking about it.
- 12:45Speaker 1: So still the focus is.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Not on this widow who's grieving the loss of her husband.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Even now the South Australian Premier is trying to claim
- 12:53Speaker 2: that somehow they are the victims in all of this.
- 12:55Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that Peter Malanawskis's response saying that everybody
- 12:59Speaker 6: makes mistakes, that is really really poor and I actually
- 13:03Speaker 6: think unfathomable. We're talking about a grieving widow here who
- 13:07Speaker 6: actually raised a legitimate grievance. Her husband was dying, right,
- 13:13Speaker 6: he was struggling to get into the system that he needed.
- 13:17Speaker 3: He was waiting outside for an ambulance.
- 13:19Speaker 6: Right he was stuck in an ambulance for ramping at
- 13:22Speaker 6: the time for over an hour while he was dying. Now,
- 13:25Speaker 6: if you look at South Australia, I was having a
- 13:27Speaker 6: look at this. Their ramping hit fifty thousand hours last year,
- 13:31Speaker 6: fifty thousand hours, despite the fact that the Melanous's government
- 13:34Speaker 6: promised at the last election that they would fix this issue.
- 13:38Speaker 6: So she wasn't just raising some sort of petty problem.
- 13:41Speaker 6: She was actually raising something that is affecting thousands of
- 13:45Speaker 6: South Australians.
- 13:47Speaker 3: And for the South Australian Health Minister to.
- 13:51Speaker 6: It almost feels like he was pinning her down at
- 13:55Speaker 6: a time when she was at her lowest and he
- 13:58Speaker 6: absolutely buggered the whole thing up.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Anyway, he should never ever have done that.
- 14:02Speaker 6: Any good politician would have gone to her, would have
- 14:05Speaker 6: responded to her emails properly, and that's what good leaders do,
- 14:08Speaker 6: respond to the emails properly and said I am so
- 14:11Speaker 6: sorry for your husband's loss. I wish that we could
- 14:13Speaker 6: have done something better to prevent it, his pain, to
- 14:16Speaker 6: prevent it the time that he was waiting outside in
- 14:18Speaker 6: an ambulance. And so they've handled it absolutely poorly. I
- 14:21Speaker 6: agree that, and that he's made a mockery of it.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Really, I agree the Health Minister should not resign over
- 14:26Speaker 2: the email Fiesco. He should resign over the fact they
- 14:29Speaker 2: won the election promising to fix ramping and it's gotten
- 14:32Speaker 2: worse every single year they've been in government. That's the
- 14:35Speaker 2: real issue and I think that's why the South Australian
- 14:38Speaker 2: Premier would much prefer to talk about the email.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Yeah, very very clearly.
- 14:42Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about this because from today every one
- 14:45Speaker 6: of us, every Australian in the country will have to
- 14:48Speaker 6: use new age verification systems online. But this only pertains
- 14:53Speaker 6: to adult content like pornography. So right now, if you
- 14:58Speaker 6: are on porn websites, it would come up with a
- 15:02Speaker 6: click button basically saying are you over the age of
- 15:04Speaker 6: eighteen and anybody at any age could then click yes,
- 15:08Speaker 6: I am over the age of eighteen. But as of today,
- 15:12Speaker 6: these are the new rules coming into place. But have
- 15:15Speaker 6: a listen to some of the methods of verification we'll
- 15:17Speaker 6: bring this up. One is parental age confirmation and gosh, mum, dad.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Mom, dad on the website.
- 15:25Speaker 6: Little Johnny over here wants to hop on, so that's wet.
- 15:29Speaker 2: That's when child Services would arrivest. Well, exactly Johnny will
- 15:33Speaker 2: be coming with us, thinks exactly.
- 15:34Speaker 6: Photo ID is a second one, facial age estimation. There's
- 15:38Speaker 6: also going to be credit card checks and age inference.
- 15:42Speaker 6: So this was all introduced by Julie in malme Grant.
- 15:44Speaker 6: Of course, the e safeties are she announced these changes
- 15:47Speaker 6: back in September last year and it was in different stages.
- 15:50Speaker 6: So it's designed to cover adult content, extreme violence or
- 15:54Speaker 6: self harm content and enforce from December and this is
- 15:57Speaker 6: the latest from the ninth of March. Now, look, here's
- 16:02Speaker 6: my take on this. I cannot I hate porn. Okay,
- 16:07Speaker 6: I'm not glorifying this. I don't agree with it in
- 16:11Speaker 6: any way, shape or form. And my concern legitimately is
- 16:14Speaker 6: that we are breeding another generation of young men who
- 16:18Speaker 6: watch porn and they think that that is normal behavior.
- 16:21Speaker 6: They think that is normal to treat a woman like that.
- 16:24Speaker 6: I totally agree, it is absolutely wrong. Do I agree
- 16:28Speaker 6: with an age verification?
- 16:30Speaker 1: No, I don't.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And the reason is where does it end?
- 16:34Speaker 6: Because it started with the under social under sixteen social
- 16:37Speaker 6: media ban. That was one and now we're moving into
- 16:41Speaker 6: age verification, including facial recognition technology to prove you're over
- 16:45Speaker 6: the age of eighteen.
- 16:47Speaker 3: So what happens next?
- 16:49Speaker 6: And we're also following the lead of the UK they've
- 16:51Speaker 6: gone down this path. It hasn't worked because people are
- 16:54Speaker 6: buying VPNs here, there, and everywhere, and there are obviously
- 16:58Speaker 6: ways to bypass this. But is this now a trojan horse?
- 17:02Speaker 6: And this is the concern to mandate digital ID on
- 17:06Speaker 6: other websites and other things. We know that this is
- 17:09Speaker 6: the safeties are has been wanting to do this for
- 17:11Speaker 6: a very long time. She wanted to censor the Internet
- 17:13Speaker 6: wherever she could. The miscommunication laws that Labored tried to
- 17:17Speaker 6: pass through last year were an absolute disaster.
- 17:20Speaker 3: They wanted to do the same thing. And I also
- 17:23Speaker 3: think that.
- 17:25Speaker 6: Even if you are over the age of eighteen, you
- 17:28Speaker 6: have the right to do whatever the.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Heck you want.
- 17:30Speaker 6: All right, if you want to go and watch adult content,
- 17:32Speaker 6: you want to go watch porn, I couldn't care what
- 17:35Speaker 6: people do.
- 17:35Speaker 1: It targeting people over eighteen, it doesn't matter.
- 17:39Speaker 6: It's still age verification right now. Even if you are
- 17:41Speaker 6: over the age of eighteen, you need to prove it
- 17:44Speaker 6: if you were to go on any of these websites.
- 17:46Speaker 2: And the reason for that is to prevent It's almost
- 17:48Speaker 2: now fifty percent of nine to sixteen year olds in
- 17:51Speaker 2: this country have come across pawn and the other statistic
- 17:54Speaker 2: I found really interesting is that almost no parents believe
- 17:57Speaker 2: that their kids have stumbled across pawns. This is a
- 18:00Speaker 2: massive problem that, as you rightly pointed out in your introduction,
- 18:03Speaker 2: is having a huge effect on the development of young people,
- 18:06Speaker 2: in their attitudes towards women, in their attitudes towards sexuality,
- 18:09Speaker 2: and in their behavior. We want to stop our kids
- 18:12Speaker 2: watching porn. I'm sure you would agree with that. The
- 18:15Speaker 2: only way to do it is to make age verifications
- 18:18Speaker 2: so they can't.
- 18:19Speaker 3: Access I don't think education really come across this.
- 18:22Speaker 5: No.
- 18:22Speaker 3: I think education is key education.
- 18:25Speaker 5: No education, you don't in school, you don't support the
- 18:29Speaker 5: social media age band, do you No, I don't know.
- 18:32Speaker 4: Why is that?
- 18:33Speaker 2: Because I think it's too sloppy. The legislation in that
- 18:36Speaker 2: a sixteen year old not allowed on Instagram is ridiculous.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Sixteen year olds can go on Instagram, but you don't
- 18:41Speaker 2: want a sixteen year old accessing porn.
- 18:43Speaker 1: They're too completely different subject.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Yeah, but we've seen some of the content on instagram R.
- 18:47Speaker 4: I know it's not far off, it's not far off,
- 18:49Speaker 4: but a.
- 18:50Speaker 6: Lot of these, you know, these only fans creating and
- 18:52Speaker 6: promoting it on.
- 18:53Speaker 5: And for the same reason that I have an issue
- 18:56Speaker 5: with the social media band, which is that I think
- 19:01Speaker 5: it's ineffective, it's really hard to administer and monitor, and
- 19:06Speaker 5: that it is fundamentally a parenting issue. It should be
- 19:08Speaker 5: up to parents what their children have access to. The
- 19:11Speaker 5: same applies to this right now, if you put a
- 19:15Speaker 5: device in your child's hands, you know the risks of
- 19:18Speaker 5: doing so. Right now, you can put restrictions on the
- 19:22Speaker 5: Wi Fi at home that allows certain websites to not
- 19:25Speaker 5: be accessed and certain kinds of websites to not be accessed.
- 19:28Speaker 4: This is something you should be doing as a parent now.
- 19:31Speaker 5: I know that in a big, bad world, kids might
- 19:34Speaker 5: go to other houses and look up websites you don't
- 19:36Speaker 5: want them to look up. But once upon a time
- 19:38Speaker 5: kids were stealing Dad's Playboy magazine as well. It is
- 19:41Speaker 5: now easier to get hold of the content, but this
- 19:44Speaker 5: has always happened in some fashion.
- 19:46Speaker 1: You want something out there.
- 19:47Speaker 2: You mentioned as an example stealing Dad's Playboy magazine, So
- 19:50Speaker 2: that's a deliberate thing where a young boy would steal
- 19:53Speaker 2: the magazine. One of the biggest problems with porn online
- 19:56Speaker 2: is that kids are stumbling across it. They're not looking
- 19:58Speaker 2: for it, they're not deliberate accessing it. They're coming across
- 20:02Speaker 2: it by accident. And this is something we've got to
- 20:05Speaker 2: address and if you've got a better way to stop
- 20:06Speaker 2: kids accessing porn.
- 20:08Speaker 6: I actually disagree that they're not. I don't think they're
- 20:10Speaker 6: stumbling across it. I don't think that was some someday
- 20:12Speaker 6: might be stumbled to. The research says, but it also
- 20:14Speaker 6: depends on so if you go on Instagram, it also
- 20:17Speaker 6: depends on your algorithm, and it also depends on.
- 20:20Speaker 3: What you have previously looked up. I don't think these kids.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Are targeting primarily things like inst.
- 20:25Speaker 6: No, no, I know, but I'm using it as an example
- 20:27Speaker 6: because you're talking about Instagram, right. A lot of these
- 20:30Speaker 6: creators on adult websites, they are using Instagram, they are
- 20:35Speaker 6: using TikTok to promote their material. And these women in
- 20:38Speaker 6: particular have millions upon millions of followers, and a lot
- 20:42Speaker 6: of them are young because they have somehow become overnight influences.
- 20:46Speaker 1: I feel like goal Post.
- 20:48Speaker 3: You know, I'm not shifting the gold.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Let's not talk about Instagram, because Instagram is Instagram rights.
- 20:52Speaker 3: To know, it's not James. If you have a deep dive,
- 20:55Speaker 3: talk about.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Intagrams, which is what this legislation is actually now we
- 21:00Speaker 2: say that.
- 21:00Speaker 4: But it's a lot.
- 21:01Speaker 5: They're going to collect a biometric data of people who
- 21:05Speaker 5: are you?
- 21:06Speaker 1: That's one option.
- 21:06Speaker 5: The maybe will get your driver's license number, or another
- 21:10Speaker 5: care number will get your credit card detail. They are
- 21:14Speaker 5: we're going to are We're seriously trusting some of the
- 21:17Speaker 5: shadiest websites on the Internet to safely collect this data.
- 21:21Speaker 1: May mean that less people access. Don't say you're the society.
- 21:25Speaker 2: If you're stupid enough to access the site and give
- 21:27Speaker 2: them your details, well, of course they are probably very
- 21:30Speaker 2: shady outfits, but.
- 21:31Speaker 5: I don't think it's the government's job to be the
- 21:33Speaker 5: moral product.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Who cares what people do in their private life.
- 21:36Speaker 1: We're talking about protecting children.
- 21:38Speaker 3: It doesn't.
- 21:38Speaker 4: It doesn't if say Magabet for social media.
- 21:42Speaker 6: It's if somebody wants to watch porn, I don't care.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Which from accessing.
- 21:47Speaker 3: It's going to access whatever they want.
- 21:50Speaker 6: And as I said to you, they can do it
- 21:52Speaker 6: through Instagram, and they can do it through TikTok. James,
- 21:56Speaker 6: you see what you can come up. You can see
- 21:59Speaker 6: what you can come up with on these websites. Okay,
- 22:01Speaker 6: they're all the same. You don't need to be looking
- 22:03Speaker 6: up porn websites when you can access it on other
- 22:05Speaker 6: social media and Twitter now x exactly the same. It's
- 22:09Speaker 6: full of filth.
- 22:10Speaker 2: I don't have it because I don't know that anyone's
- 22:12Speaker 2: did the study, but I would be very surprised if
- 22:15Speaker 2: they did a survey of parents and parents weren't overwhelmingly
- 22:18Speaker 2: in favor of this to look after that.
- 22:20Speaker 4: As many of them were with the social media ban as.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Well, because they feel the effects with that on there
- 22:25Speaker 1: of course.
- 22:25Speaker 5: But I think the principle is the same that it
- 22:28Speaker 5: should be a parenting issue. It should be something that
- 22:31Speaker 5: should be dealt within the home, not via.
- 22:32Speaker 4: The long arm of the law.
- 22:33Speaker 5: If it should be a pown seas that websites should
- 22:35Speaker 5: collect biometric data, be they social media website or a
- 22:38Speaker 5: pornographic website.
- 22:39Speaker 2: I'm all for the responsibility of parents, no question, but
- 22:43Speaker 2: it's clearly not working. If almost half of our young
- 22:46Speaker 2: people have stumbled across porn the parenting isn't working, mainly
- 22:51Speaker 2: because it's impossible to watch over your child's shoulder every
- 22:55Speaker 2: minute of every day, and they are going to have devices,
- 22:57Speaker 2: especially in their early teen years, they have to have them.
- 23:00Speaker 1: It's not working.
- 23:00Speaker 6: I'd like to know how many are going to ask
- 23:02Speaker 6: their parents for permission age.
- 23:08Speaker 1: It would start a good discussion at home appearance.
- 23:12Speaker 5: Make sure you hide your wallets and purses because there
- 23:15Speaker 5: may be a raid on drivers license.
- 23:17Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about more government interference, this time
- 23:21Speaker 2: with what you can view, at least for free. The
- 23:24Speaker 2: Victorian government is going to put a tax on tourists
- 23:28Speaker 2: going to view the Twelve Apostles off the coastline of Victoria.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Two million visitors a year are go to see the
- 23:36Speaker 2: Twelve Apostles in Victoria. But here's the tourism minister announcing
- 23:40Speaker 2: that it will now be taxed. They haven't determined an
- 23:43Speaker 2: amount yet, but as of later this year they will
- 23:46Speaker 2: be charging people a fee.
- 23:49Speaker 11: For years, locals along the Grod Ocean Road have been
- 23:53Speaker 11: calling for the minions of visitors that go through that
- 23:57Speaker 11: beautiful part of Victoria to make a contribution, and the
- 24:01Speaker 11: government has now decided that that's a fair and reasonable
- 24:04Speaker 11: thing to do. We want to make sure the Great
- 24:06Speaker 11: Ocean Road is there for the next one hundred years.
- 24:09Speaker 11: We cannot be the generation that let's it fall away.
- 24:13Speaker 2: What I love about that is the Victorian government minister says,
- 24:16Speaker 2: for years the people have been calling for a tax,
- 24:19Speaker 2: and we've decided, yeah, we think a tax would be
- 24:23Speaker 2: fair and reasonable.
- 24:24Speaker 1: What a way to sell a government tax.
- 24:26Speaker 2: This has got nothing to do with people saying, hey,
- 24:28Speaker 2: we need a tax to make sure the road is
- 24:31Speaker 2: kept up to speed. This is the Victorian government who
- 24:34Speaker 2: have hopelessly mismanaged finances, looking for another way to squeeze
- 24:40Speaker 2: another drop out of Victorians. I mean, this is the
- 24:43Speaker 2: government that put a tax on will that double the
- 24:46Speaker 2: tax on owning a dog or a cat. This is
- 24:49Speaker 2: a government that now has a debt of what is
- 24:50Speaker 2: it one hundred and sixty billion dollars now in Victoria
- 24:54Speaker 2: and this is wrong that they would charge you money
- 24:57Speaker 2: to view a natural rock form.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Yeah. A few points on this.
- 25:02Speaker 6: Firstly, this is the treaty in action. We've been warning
- 25:06Speaker 6: about this for a long time once Victoria introduced this treaty,
- 25:09Speaker 6: because you don't have to pay a fee if you
- 25:12Speaker 6: are a traditional owner.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Okay, so here we go.
- 25:15Speaker 6: We're actually already seeing Victoria dividing people by the color
- 25:18Speaker 6: of our skin. You know what's next, reparations. Secondly, Victoria
- 25:24Speaker 6: is using this by stealth because justinto Allen came out
- 25:27Speaker 6: and she said, oh, we're going to use this money
- 25:30Speaker 6: to help repair the local infrastructure. We're going to use
- 25:33Speaker 6: it for environmental conservation. Right when the Victorian debt pile
- 25:38Speaker 6: has reached now ten billion dollars, would you believe in
- 25:40Speaker 6: the past six months alone, government spending is out of control.
- 25:46Speaker 6: We've got levees here and there, the emergency services here, here, levy,
- 25:50Speaker 6: the COVID debt levee.
- 25:51Speaker 3: So of course this.
- 25:52Speaker 6: Is a very sneaky way to say, we're just going
- 25:54Speaker 6: to charge you a fee. It's going to help weasel
- 25:57Speaker 6: down our government spending, but we'll claim we're going to
- 26:00Speaker 6: put it towards the environment and to prop up the
- 26:03Speaker 6: local area. And three, we live in beautiful Australia.
- 26:07Speaker 3: We have so many natural wonders.
- 26:09Speaker 6: We have the best coastline I think in the world
- 26:12Speaker 6: natural beauty.
- 26:13Speaker 3: You're actually going to charge.
- 26:14Speaker 6: People to have a look at it, just to stand
- 26:17Speaker 6: and observe. Seriously, Like I have been to the Apostles before,
- 26:21Speaker 6: I wouldn't go again. I mean it was nice, but
- 26:23Speaker 6: I wouldn't go again. So if you're going to, you know,
- 26:26Speaker 6: to charge to pay, why would you bother?
- 26:28Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's just because it joins flat broke basically.
- 26:31Speaker 5: You know, I don't mind user pays models as a rule,
- 26:36Speaker 5: but if you're going to bring in user paid models
- 26:39Speaker 5: for certain things, you should also be removing taxes elsewhere
- 26:42Speaker 5: because you're just shifting where you get the revenue from.
- 26:45Speaker 5: You're saying, you know, we will take the money from
- 26:47Speaker 5: the direct user of the service or whatever it is,
- 26:51Speaker 5: and we will put that money directly into that service
- 26:53Speaker 5: instead of taxing someone at one point, putting it all
- 26:56Speaker 5: into a big pot of money and then distributing it out.
- 26:59Speaker 5: No is you with that as long as you stop
- 27:01Speaker 5: collecting the broader taxes at the other point where it
- 27:05Speaker 5: ends up in the big pot, because you're just double lipping.
- 27:07Speaker 5: Now essentially, you're saying, we'll tax you plus we want
- 27:10Speaker 5: you to pay extra if you want to go and
- 27:12Speaker 5: look at the Twelve Apostles. I mean, next thing, they'll
- 27:14Speaker 5: be turning the Great Ocean Road into a toll road.
- 27:16Speaker 5: For heaven's sake, if you want to drive on one
- 27:18Speaker 5: of the most iconic routes in this country, you'll have
- 27:22Speaker 5: to pay a fee in.
- 27:23Speaker 4: Order to do it.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Well, Denika mentioned treaty, and this is obviously before treaty.
- 27:27Speaker 2: I think treaty will make it far worse. They'll probably
- 27:30Speaker 2: prevent you from taking photographs of the Twelve Apostles because
- 27:33Speaker 2: you'll be culturally insensitive, and then they'll rename the Twelve Apostles. Incidentally,
- 27:37Speaker 2: there's not twelve apostles, there's seven, so you get a
- 27:40Speaker 2: discount on the tax exactly.
- 27:42Speaker 4: Good luck. We'll sue and see how you go with that.
- 27:46Speaker 5: Now over in the UK, of course, we showed you
- 27:49Speaker 5: last week some of the RGI bargie between Donald Trump
- 27:52Speaker 5: and Sir Quia Stama, including this little stinger from the president.
- 27:58Speaker 4: That happy with the is not Winston Churchill that we're
- 28:03Speaker 4: dealing with.
- 28:05Speaker 5: So things have been a little frosty in light of
- 28:07Speaker 5: the war in Iran, which of course Sakia Stamer has
- 28:11Speaker 5: basically been saying to anyone who would listen, was not
- 28:14Speaker 5: caused by We're not involved in in any way, no
- 28:17Speaker 5: support for what's happening in Iran. Well, they've now been
- 28:21Speaker 5: on the blower to each other where you find out
- 28:23Speaker 5: from Number ten, and Sirkia seems to be softening his
- 28:27Speaker 5: position a little bit of A spokesman from Number ten
- 28:30Speaker 5: said that they had spoken on the phone and that
- 28:32Speaker 5: the Prime Minister had passed on his condolences for the
- 28:36Speaker 5: six Americans who were killed, the soldiers who were killed.
- 28:40Speaker 4: But we're perhaps willing to lend.
- 28:42Speaker 5: A little bit of support now. We'll give you some
- 28:45Speaker 5: planes if you need them. Well, Donald Trump, in typical
- 28:49Speaker 5: Donald Trump fashion, took to his truth social where he wrote,
- 28:53Speaker 5: and I'm hearing this in his voice as I read
- 28:56Speaker 5: the United Kingdom our once great ally maybe the.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Great, the greatest of all, as he would.
- 29:01Speaker 5: Say, he's finally giving serious thought to sending two aircraft
- 29:04Speaker 5: carriers to the Middle East. That's okay, Prime Minister Starma,
- 29:07Speaker 5: we don't need them any longer, but we will remember
- 29:10Speaker 5: we don't need people that join wars after we've already won.
- 29:15Speaker 5: So cerdainly, the phone call has not actually smooth much over.
- 29:18Speaker 5: To be perfectly honest, I think it's a key needs
- 29:20Speaker 5: to get on the phone to Zora and mum Dani
- 29:23Speaker 5: and sort of find out how to deal with the
- 29:24Speaker 5: President because their bromance seems to be okay, But the
- 29:27Speaker 5: one was.
- 29:27Speaker 6: Circuit well lot so much actually, so the truth Social
- 29:30Speaker 6: Post came out first, and then they've held this phone
- 29:32Speaker 6: call overnight. But if you actually look at Downing Street's
- 29:35Speaker 6: statement down the very bottom, it says we look forward
- 29:37Speaker 6: to speaking again in the future.
- 29:39Speaker 3: All very polite.
- 29:40Speaker 6: Look, the reality is is Donald Trump has had enough
- 29:43Speaker 6: of the dailly dallying and the time wasting. Right by
- 29:46Speaker 6: Keir Starmer, I mean, Kir Starmer is out there doing
- 29:49Speaker 6: the international hokey pokey. He's got one arm in, one
- 29:52Speaker 6: arm out. He might help the president, but he might
- 29:55Speaker 6: not help the president. He's yes, but then he's no.
- 29:58Speaker 6: Donald Trump's in the middle of an international crisis right now.
- 30:01Speaker 6: He needs his strongest allies around him. He needs his
- 30:04Speaker 6: strongest leaders around him, and Keir Starmer is once again
- 30:08Speaker 6: being his usual self, aka the village idiot.
- 30:12Speaker 3: And this is the problem with Keir Starmer.
- 30:14Speaker 6: He is weak, he is woke, He is pandering to
- 30:17Speaker 6: communities because he's so scared. He's so scared of offending people.
- 30:22Speaker 6: And let's not forget that Donald Trump has had the
- 30:24Speaker 6: courage to do what no other leader has done, right,
- 30:26Speaker 6: try and decimate this murderous regime. And we'll give Benjamin
- 30:29Speaker 6: Netnia who of course massive credit to Benjamin Netnia who
- 30:34Speaker 6: as well here because both of them they're not just
- 30:36Speaker 6: fighting this for themselves, they're fighting it on.
- 30:39Speaker 3: Behalf of the West.
- 30:40Speaker 6: And what a traitor, what a betrayal by Kio Starmer.
- 30:44Speaker 6: He deserved everything that he got from Donald Trump.
- 30:46Speaker 2: What I want to know about this phone call is
- 30:48Speaker 2: did Starma call Trump? And if that was the case,
- 30:52Speaker 2: did Trump's secretary say, mister President, I've got a phone
- 30:55Speaker 2: call for you.
- 30:56Speaker 1: It's not Winston.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Churchill would be quite the way to offer a phone
- 31:00Speaker 2: call that The excuse that Starma and his government have
- 31:04Speaker 2: given is that they just didn't think it was in
- 31:05Speaker 2: the British national interest to participate in an offensive war
- 31:10Speaker 2: against Iran. But that belies belief because the UK security
- 31:17Speaker 2: forces just in twenty twenty five investigated upwards of twenty
- 31:22Speaker 2: terret plots from Iran against the UK. So for them
- 31:27Speaker 2: to say it's not in their national interest, the other
- 31:29Speaker 2: thing that's in their national interest is to be a
- 31:31Speaker 2: good ally with the United States, and they're totally destroying
- 31:35Speaker 2: that right before our eyes in real time. It makes
- 31:38Speaker 2: you wonder about the future of the Five Eyes, the
- 31:41Speaker 2: future of Orcus, the future of the UK US relationship,
- 31:45Speaker 2: and Trump and Marco Rubio and Headseth have made it
- 31:48Speaker 2: pretty clear if you don't share our values, we don't
- 31:51Speaker 2: need you. We will go our own way and good
- 31:54Speaker 2: lucky istarma with the French and the Germans in trying
- 31:57Speaker 2: to secure your future.
- 31:59Speaker 5: And make this point about you know, Iran's involvement in
- 32:03Speaker 5: terror threats to Tetra I mean, I mean, this is
- 32:05Speaker 5: what Anthony Alberanizi said on Friday to Kieran Gilbert here
- 32:08Speaker 5: on Sky News that his support for what the US
- 32:11Speaker 5: and Israel has done was informed by the fact that
- 32:13Speaker 5: we've had state sponsored terrorism sponsored by Iran carried out
- 32:17Speaker 5: in this country. I mean, if even Anthony ALBANIZI can
- 32:21Speaker 5: say that, why is it so hard for Sue quir
- 32:24Speaker 5: to say.
- 32:24Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's all very bizarre, but you know, God forbid,
- 32:28Speaker 6: the shoe was on the other foot, and we or
- 32:31Speaker 6: the UK need our closest allies.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Well.
- 32:34Speaker 6: Today is Commonwealth Day, a massive celebration of the Commonwealth,
- 32:39Speaker 6: and King Charles will later this evening be giving a
- 32:42Speaker 6: formal speech where all of the members of the Royal
- 32:44Speaker 6: family will get together in Westminster. It's actually the first
- 32:47Speaker 6: time the Royal family has all been together since the
- 32:49Speaker 6: Andrew mount Batten Windsor saga broke. But the King during
- 32:53Speaker 6: his speech, he's going to make a couple of points.
- 32:55Speaker 6: He's going to indirectly touch on Iran. He'll talk about
- 32:59Speaker 6: challenging and trying circumstances for the world. But in his
- 33:03Speaker 6: speech as well, he's also going to be talking about
- 33:05Speaker 6: one of his favorite topics.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Can he guess what it is? Climate change?
- 33:08Speaker 6: I mean you might remember it was actually written into
- 33:10Speaker 6: his job descripture last year that he was going.
- 33:12Speaker 3: To save the world.
- 33:13Speaker 6: But here's the thing that really got me about what
- 33:15Speaker 6: he's going.
- 33:15Speaker 3: To talk about. He's going to be talking about culture. Culture. Yeah, well, at.
- 33:20Speaker 6: The time when we've got Commonwealth countries around the world
- 33:22Speaker 6: who I think personally don't even know what their own
- 33:25Speaker 6: culture is, especially the UK, and I'd say Australia is
- 33:27Speaker 6: absolutely down that path.
- 33:29Speaker 3: I think it's time for King Charles. And I'm a
- 33:31Speaker 3: staunch monarchist.
- 33:32Speaker 6: Let me just preface by saying to butt out of
- 33:36Speaker 6: international issues. He has got enough on his plate right
- 33:39Speaker 6: now with his deadbeat brother Andrew mountin Batten Windsor So
- 33:41Speaker 6: if you want to talk about challenges and trying times,
- 33:44Speaker 6: maybe you might want to look internally. But the interesting
- 33:47Speaker 6: thing is he'll also be discussing with the leaders of
- 33:50Speaker 6: the Commonwealth at this event whether or not to remove
- 33:53Speaker 6: Andrew from the line of succession.
- 33:55Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that a no brain? Now He's got
- 33:57Speaker 3: to get.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Rid of him, surely, I think that'll be the much
- 33:59Speaker 2: more interesting talking point at this gathering.
- 34:02Speaker 1: Does anyone really care what the king says?
- 34:04Speaker 2: I think everybody you know nods and gives him his due,
- 34:08Speaker 2: But really then they go home and forget everything He's
- 34:11Speaker 2: just said.
- 34:12Speaker 1: The Commonwealth can't organize the games the.
- 34:14Speaker 5: Day, so Victorious certainly can't organize a.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Game well, and they're running a scale down version in
- 34:20Speaker 2: Scotland right so I'm not sure anyone really cares. But
- 34:24Speaker 2: I do think the future of Andrew in terms of
- 34:28Speaker 2: the line of succession, that's the thing that will be interesting.
- 34:30Speaker 2: And if I was going to this meeting, it's it's
- 34:33Speaker 2: climate change.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Whatever else.
- 34:34Speaker 2: But when Charles starts talking about his brother, that's when
- 34:38Speaker 2: I probably put my phone down, lean in because I
- 34:40Speaker 2: want to hear this and I want to see how
- 34:42Speaker 2: he handles.
- 34:43Speaker 5: And you know, the Prime Minister, Anthony Albaniz, he's already
- 34:46Speaker 5: signaled his support for that, so they'll they'll want to shore.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Up the elbow got out of the blocks.
- 34:49Speaker 5: He was first on the scene saying happy to go
- 34:53Speaker 5: along with it. So I'll have to think I'll have
- 34:54Speaker 5: to talk to the rest of them about it. But
- 34:56Speaker 5: speaking of Australia and our link to the Royals, apparently
- 34:59Speaker 5: we're getting a a visit from Harry and Meghan next
- 35:02Speaker 5: month mid April to todder Well the Spear. Indeed, they'll
- 35:07Speaker 5: be toddling out to Australia for a bunch of private
- 35:10Speaker 5: and public engagements. Apparently this talk that she's going to
- 35:13Speaker 5: go on some podcast or something and maybe Megan'll do
- 35:17Speaker 5: like a ticket to speaking event or something. You'll be
- 35:20Speaker 5: able to go on and have a Q and a session.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Three thousands of people came out in this country to hear
- 35:25Speaker 2: her last time.
- 35:26Speaker 3: But they hated Australia. They hated Australia.
- 35:29Speaker 6: Don't forget this was this was the turning point for
- 35:31Speaker 6: them to leave the monarchy when they did their tour
- 35:33Speaker 6: of Australia and the Pacific.
- 35:35Speaker 3: This is what Meghan said. No, that was the real
- 35:37Speaker 3: catalyst for us to leave. Why are you coming?
- 35:39Speaker 1: Because they came, why are you coming back?
- 35:40Speaker 3: We don't want you here.
- 35:41Speaker 2: They stayed at Government House and she got really upset
- 35:43Speaker 2: that they didn't get the entire government.
- 35:46Speaker 1: They had only a wing of it.
- 35:47Speaker 6: So well, and in bad news for them that Netflix
- 35:50Speaker 6: have cut their their programming now on Netflix as well,
- 35:54Speaker 6: they've cut ties with the lifestyle brand. This is called
- 35:57Speaker 6: as Ever. They said that the show has come to
- 35:59Speaker 6: an end. You might remember there's as Ever. It came.
- 36:03Speaker 6: This was a one hundred million dollar deal they did
- 36:04Speaker 6: that tell All documentary Harry and Meghan their Polo documentary.
- 36:08Speaker 6: I didn't even know that there was a Polo documentary?
- 36:10Speaker 3: Did you?
- 36:10Speaker 6: Did you catch that one and we love Meghan. Whatever
- 36:14Speaker 6: will we do without Meghan making jams and teaching us
- 36:16Speaker 6: how to make Christmas crackers in Australia.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Apparently, well, they are coming to Australia.
- 36:21Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to see them
- 36:22Speaker 2: because I'm washing my hair that day where they.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Go to the break when we come back.
- 36:28Speaker 2: If you think the cost of living crisis is bad, now,
- 36:30Speaker 2: waiting to hear what they're saying about inflation due to
- 36:33Speaker 2: the conflict in Iran.
- 36:34Speaker 1: That's next.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Okay, We've got a little bit more information on that
- 36:43Speaker 2: story of Iran's new supreme leader being injured. The story
- 36:47Speaker 2: stems from an Iranian state television report that's been picked
- 36:50Speaker 2: up by Israeli media outlets. The presenter refers to Mattaba
- 36:54Speaker 2: Kameni as janbaz an injured veteran. That's what that means
- 36:59Speaker 2: in the Ramada War, which is how Iran is labeling
- 37:01Speaker 2: the current conflict. There's no chronology given, so we're not
- 37:05Speaker 2: sure when he was injured, but we know Kamane's father,
- 37:08Speaker 2: the Ietoller and wife were killed in the US and
- 37:10Speaker 2: Israeli strikes on Tehran on February twenty eight, and Comani
- 37:15Speaker 2: Junior has not been seen publicly since the war began,
- 37:19Speaker 2: so details are starting to filter through. Hopefully newsnight after
- 37:23Speaker 2: it Depenehy at midnight will have more information on that.
- 37:27Speaker 2: Let's go now to what's making news in tomorrow's papers,
- 37:30Speaker 2: so you get it all here first. And Daniki, you've
- 37:33Speaker 2: got the Adelaide Advertiser.
- 37:35Speaker 6: Yes, the headline on the front page of the advertiser,
- 37:38Speaker 6: war and fleece petrol panic set to send inflation surging
- 37:42Speaker 6: past five percent. Spiraling petrol prices could send inflation above
- 37:46Speaker 6: five percent. The NAB warns's economic shock waves from the
- 37:49Speaker 6: Middle East crisis sends pump prices in Adelaide rising by
- 37:52Speaker 6: around forty cents.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Alita, I mean it's not cheap out there.
- 37:56Speaker 6: I don't know about you, but trying to fill up
- 37:58Speaker 6: your car right now with petrol just you feel a
- 38:01Speaker 6: bit disheveled every time I see the prices out there.
- 38:06Speaker 3: But look, it's not good. But let's be honest.
- 38:10Speaker 6: Our economy as it is is in a shambles. And
- 38:13Speaker 6: my concern now, this is very convenient for Jim Charmers
- 38:17Speaker 6: to pull one on us. He will just blame the
- 38:19Speaker 6: international conflict even though a lot of our economy, the
- 38:23Speaker 6: majority of it is labor's doing, so this has come
- 38:27Speaker 6: at the right time for Jim Charmers. But the other
- 38:30Speaker 6: issue with the petrol is, I we were told by
- 38:32Speaker 6: Chris Bowen a week ago, don't need to panic.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Everything's all under control.
- 38:36Speaker 1: A month of it.
- 38:36Speaker 4: Look at a month I filled up today.
- 38:40Speaker 5: I had to use the credit card and then refinance
- 38:42Speaker 5: the house in order to pay off the afterwards. So
- 38:45Speaker 5: it's a bit of a struggle, I have to tell you.
- 38:47Speaker 5: And good headline, by the way, well done to Timmer
- 38:49Speaker 5: Jones and the team at the Ties of War and Fleece.
- 38:52Speaker 5: But for this idea that you would hit five percent
- 38:54Speaker 5: inflation will become a real problem for the government if
- 38:59Speaker 5: that happens. So I know that the obviously going to
- 39:01Speaker 5: try to blame it on Iran, and that will likely
- 39:04Speaker 5: become a common refrain as we move into the federal
- 39:07Speaker 5: budget in a few months time. The only problem for
- 39:11Speaker 5: the federal government though, is that they have continually said,
- 39:14Speaker 5: you know, when we came to government, inflation had a
- 39:16Speaker 5: six in front of it. Now it's got a three
- 39:18Speaker 5: in front of it, totally ignoring the fact that largely
- 39:22Speaker 5: the reason inflation was so high was because of the
- 39:25Speaker 5: effects of COVID, which was out of the control of
- 39:29Speaker 5: the coalition to some degree. But they've never given them
- 39:32Speaker 5: any grace on that, and they may well have to
- 39:35Speaker 5: face the same heat when inflation goes up because of
- 39:39Speaker 5: things that to some degree are out of the government's control.
- 39:42Speaker 4: And what are they going to do?
- 39:43Speaker 5: Then they can hardly argue against the point, because it's
- 39:46Speaker 5: exactly the same argument they themselves have been used to.
- 39:48Speaker 2: The problem that the government has created is that our
- 39:51Speaker 2: country has no margin for a situation like conflict in
- 39:55Speaker 2: the Middle East with fuel prices going through the roof.
- 39:57Speaker 1: Of course, that will add to inflation.
- 39:59Speaker 2: The problem is we just don't have much margin to
- 40:01Speaker 2: cope with unforeseen circumstances, and that's entirely the fault of
- 40:05Speaker 2: the government. We also don't have a lot of petrol
- 40:08Speaker 2: in reserve either. That will also be a big issue
- 40:10Speaker 2: that may well haunt the government in weeks ahead.
- 40:14Speaker 5: We're meant to have ninety days of the stuff, can
- 40:16Speaker 5: you believe it? And I mean that's our obligation. We
- 40:20Speaker 5: are nowhere near it. We've got about fifty odd days
- 40:24Speaker 5: of oil sitting around. Whether that's in the country or
- 40:26Speaker 5: overseas or on tankers and whatever, and only a month's
- 40:30Speaker 5: worth of petrol and diesel.
- 40:32Speaker 2: However, Chris Bowen has said it'll be okay, it'll be okay.
- 40:35Speaker 3: So there you go and we're fast.
- 40:37Speaker 5: Anyone with that advice. It's mister Bowen on the front
- 40:40Speaker 5: of the Australian tomorrow. They're carrying on a bit more
- 40:43Speaker 5: with this business of petrol and crude oil. And you
- 40:46Speaker 5: can see there the graph showing you where the oil
- 40:50Speaker 5: price has gone. An extra little quote from Chris bow
- 40:53Speaker 5: And saying absolutely no need to panic, so I'm sure
- 40:57Speaker 5: that'll bring you great comfort. But an interesting little story
- 41:00Speaker 5: down at the bottom of the front page their visa
- 41:02Speaker 5: win for knife man as bureaucrats take too long.
- 41:05Speaker 8: Oh my goodness.
- 41:06Speaker 5: Exclusively from Paul Garvey, an Egyptian who stabbed his sister's
- 41:09Speaker 5: partner almost to death. Is that the cancelation of his
- 41:12Speaker 5: visa quashed by the Federal Court after it found the
- 41:15Speaker 5: Albaneze government took too long to act on the case.
- 41:19Speaker 5: The Department of homer Fears blamed perennial resourcing issues, a
- 41:22Speaker 5: lack of funding and the complex training requirements of its
- 41:25Speaker 5: officers for the more than two years it took for
- 41:28Speaker 5: the government to reinstate the cancelation of the man's visa.
- 41:31Speaker 5: The man identified in the Federal Court judgment only his
- 41:34Speaker 5: XPLW will have his partner visa restored after the court
- 41:39Speaker 5: found the Immigration Minister Tony Burke had not made his
- 41:42Speaker 5: decision on the matter within a reasonable time. How hard
- 41:48Speaker 5: is it to get on top of this stuff. I mean,
- 41:51Speaker 5: so many times the Federal Governor has been caught with
- 41:53Speaker 5: their pants down here and the n Z YQK.
- 41:57Speaker 4: All the way through to now.
- 42:00Speaker 5: If you've got a bloke like this, surely you can,
- 42:02Speaker 5: within a space of maybe two years make a move.
- 42:07Speaker 6: I mean, how hard is it to sign off on it.
- 42:08Speaker 6: It's all it takes is a quick signature, Tony Burke,
- 42:11Speaker 6: you know, and you're done.
- 42:13Speaker 3: Seriously, But you're right, Caleb, Am sorry, I had a
- 42:16Speaker 3: signature go in. I'm not going to refaate that seriously.
- 42:20Speaker 6: Just to Caleb's point, I mean they were caught on
- 42:23Speaker 6: the hop during the High Court decision where you had
- 42:26Speaker 6: murderers and rapists released into the public, many of whom
- 42:29Speaker 6: have allegedly gone on to reoffend, and now They just
- 42:33Speaker 6: don't learn their lesson when it comes to matters of
- 42:36Speaker 6: national security.
- 42:37Speaker 2: So you know the problem with this rid is they
- 42:39Speaker 2: tell us regarding three thousand refugees from.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Gaza, trust us.
- 42:43Speaker 2: We're across the detail they tell us regarding Isis brides.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Trust us, we'll sort all of this out. There's no
- 42:50Speaker 2: at all.
- 42:53Speaker 3: I think my whistle was a little bit more clearer
- 42:55Speaker 3: than yours.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Probab, you're very gifted.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Herod's Sun. Sorry,
- 43:00Speaker 2: calib what was this you as a gifted child? We'll
- 43:06Speaker 2: move on the con Games is The front page headline
- 43:09Speaker 2: of The Herald's Sun revealed how state government treated officials
- 43:13Speaker 2: like royals on lavish junket.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Despite Dan's claims we were begged to help.
- 43:18Speaker 2: The story says that Commonwealth Games officials were schmoozed on
- 43:21Speaker 2: a six day junket across Victoria with charter flights, fine
- 43:24Speaker 2: dining and a two of the Grand Prix to help
- 43:27Speaker 2: seal the ill fated deal to be named host. The
- 43:30Speaker 2: Herald Sun can reveal the lengths Daniel Andrews went to
- 43:33Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two to secure the Commonwealth Games, which was.
- 43:36Speaker 1: Due to begin at the MCG next week.
- 43:39Speaker 2: This is a great story because of course Dan Andrews
- 43:43Speaker 2: boasted that they approached us and now we're trying to
- 43:46Speaker 2: convince us, and so we considered it very seriously whether
- 43:49Speaker 2: or not we could help. Now it turns out Dan
- 43:52Speaker 2: Andrews was schmoozing all over Victoria trying to win the
- 43:56Speaker 2: games that ultimately he promised regions they would have all
- 44:00Speaker 2: these facilities helped him to win the election. He couldn't
- 44:03Speaker 2: afford it, ditched it, and now we've got a scaled
- 44:05Speaker 2: down version overseas being paid for still by the Victorian
- 44:08Speaker 2: tax ban.
- 44:09Speaker 4: Most hair brained idea river.
- 44:10Speaker 5: I don't think that the Andrews government ever had any
- 44:13Speaker 5: intention of staging those games. It was purely to try
- 44:16Speaker 5: and shore up votes in the regions in the twenty
- 44:19Speaker 5: twenty two state election. And if we can get the
- 44:21Speaker 5: front page back, I've got to say that the Herald
- 44:23Speaker 5: Centner has done an excellent job with the photograph ticks
- 44:26Speaker 5: there because you can see Dan, you know, going on
- 44:29Speaker 5: about the games, and then look at the now Premier
- 44:32Speaker 5: standing behind him, who was the Minister for the delivery
- 44:34Speaker 5: of the comm Games, with her eyes shut as if
- 44:36Speaker 5: to say, oh my god, what are we putting ourselves through?
- 44:39Speaker 2: Nothing's changing the other story on the front page there
- 44:41Speaker 2: please for Iran team. Concerns for the Iranian women's soccer
- 44:44Speaker 2: team are growing after a player's union boss said representatives
- 44:48Speaker 2: had been unable to contact members of the squad after
- 44:51Speaker 2: two of them signaled for help from their team bus
- 44:54Speaker 2: on Sunday. Of course, the players were branded traitors by
- 44:57Speaker 2: around state media when they refused to sing the national anthem,
- 45:00Speaker 2: and the federal government is facing pressure to protect the women,
- 45:03Speaker 2: with fears that they will face recriminations when they return
- 45:07Speaker 2: to Tehran.
- 45:09Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to watch that.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Imagine if they go back to Tehran and are imprisoned
- 45:13Speaker 2: or worse. I mean, the backlash against the Australian government
- 45:17Speaker 2: could have done something.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Ya.
- 45:17Speaker 6: No, look, I'm with you all the way. Just very quickly,
- 45:19Speaker 6: have a look at the Daily Telegraph. This one's going
- 45:21Speaker 6: to be interesting. They're talking again, Kyl and Jackie O
- 45:25Speaker 6: back on speaking terms. Now it's over to the Network
- 45:27Speaker 6: and Daily Telegraph reporting that they're talking and maybe maybe
- 45:32Speaker 6: are seeking a return to the airwave. So this could
- 45:34Speaker 6: be interesting. They had that very bitter public spat on air.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Then the show was pulled. Two hundred million dollar contract
- 45:44Speaker 3: up in limbo. They're on talking terms. I mean, imagine
- 45:47Speaker 3: if they returned.
- 45:48Speaker 5: Imagine A week is a long time in radio, it
- 45:51Speaker 5: really is.
- 45:52Speaker 2: And two hundred million dollars is a lot of money.
- 45:55Speaker 2: Good reason to talk.
- 45:56Speaker 1: We're going to go to a.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Break when we come back. McDonald's have got a brand
- 46:00Speaker 2: new burger. The CEO, however, doesn't seem too impressed.
- 46:04Speaker 1: That's next.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Obviously, if you're the CEO of a major corporation, you're
- 46:12Speaker 2: a very important person. But it doesn't mean you can
- 46:14Speaker 2: do everything, and certainly not promotions, as proved by the
- 46:18Speaker 2: CEO of McDonald's who decided to film a video promoting
- 46:23Speaker 2: the Golden Marcher's new burger.
- 46:25Speaker 1: It's called the Big Arch.
- 46:27Speaker 2: Now here's his promotional video and lack note the lack
- 46:30Speaker 2: of enthusiasm he has for maca's latest product.
- 46:35Speaker 11: You've heard about it here It is the Big Arch.
- 46:39Speaker 10: I love this product.
- 46:40Speaker 3: It is so good, all right, the moment of truth.
- 46:47Speaker 1: That is so good.
- 46:49Speaker 3: That's a big bite for a big Arch. It's distinctively McDonald's.
- 46:54Speaker 3: Only McDonald's could do this type of burger.
- 46:56Speaker 1: But it also was unlike anything else on our menu.
- 47:00Speaker 5: This is Brida.
- 47:01Speaker 2: I wanted to send him a message saying, blink twice
- 47:03Speaker 2: if you're okay, like a hostage video or the CEO
- 47:07Speaker 2: of Burger King has put out his own video.
- 47:10Speaker 1: Note the difference, not.
- 47:17Speaker 3: That right, only one thing missing a napkin.
- 47:24Speaker 2: So watching those two reviews, which burger are you going
- 47:27Speaker 2: to eat?
- 47:27Speaker 4: Look whichever one will sponsor me? That's good. I'm a macas.
- 47:33Speaker 5: Bloke myself absolutely hungry jacks, which is in spite of
- 47:36Speaker 5: that again, yeah.
- 47:37Speaker 4: Indeed, indeed what were doing about food?
- 47:39Speaker 5: Though? Over in France they have a competition to determine
- 47:43Speaker 5: who gets to supply the baguettes to a lease a palace,
- 47:47Speaker 5: So all the bakers chuck in their goods and so
- 47:50Speaker 5: who comes out on top and the number one this
- 47:52Speaker 5: year get four one thousand euro prize as well for this,
- 47:55Speaker 5: as well as the contract to supply the president. Not
- 48:00Speaker 5: a French baker as you would expect for a begin
- 48:02Speaker 5: from which country do you think.
- 48:04Speaker 4: The guy Haile's tri Lanka now his name. I'm going
- 48:07Speaker 4: to have a go at this system.
- 48:10Speaker 5: Parapillai jigathy pan what do you think I.
- 48:14Speaker 3: Reckon, I reckon.
- 48:14Speaker 6: It's Sytham para PILLI yet, yep, you reckon?
- 48:19Speaker 3: I Dragan, thank you.
- 48:20Speaker 4: I'm always right, of course.
- 48:22Speaker 5: But he has now won the title of the best
- 48:25Speaker 5: bag itte in France and he now gets to supply
- 48:28Speaker 5: the lease a Paris.
- 48:29Speaker 4: I mean, you know these migrants take it out jobs.
- 48:32Speaker 3: There you go, be good on him, good on him.
- 48:34Speaker 6: Hey, look, speaking of France, have a look at this
- 48:37Speaker 6: at Paris Fashion Week? Is this the freak show or
- 48:40Speaker 6: the fashion show? I'm trying to figure out what this is?
- 48:44Speaker 3: Who this is?
- 48:44Speaker 6: Do they go in there they get sacrificed first before
- 48:47Speaker 6: the actual show starts.
- 48:49Speaker 3: I mean, what is that fashion?
- 48:51Speaker 1: Is that the Melbourne CBD?
- 48:54Speaker 3: I mean, is this is this fashion? I don't know.
- 48:57Speaker 3: I mean I would love to see Caleb you where
- 48:59Speaker 3: I try to give that.
- 48:59Speaker 4: A I'll give it.
- 49:01Speaker 3: What about that? Look? Hey, that would suit you.
- 49:03Speaker 5: If you give it a go to me. I would
- 49:05Speaker 5: come on, We'll both do it. I'll do it at
- 49:07Speaker 5: packs now.
- 49:08Speaker 3: We'll do it on the late debate.
- 49:09Speaker 2: This shows get any publicity is if they go to
- 49:14Speaker 2: some extreme length of ridiculousness.
- 49:17Speaker 1: It's kind of thash and part of the court and
- 49:19Speaker 1: Understar I.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Don't understand at all. That's it from us stick Around.
- 49:23Speaker 2: Coming up is the Read a Penny Show, good Night,