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DLHS Hour 1 | Defense Secretary blocks seven officers to be Admirals · The D.L. Hughley Show

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Speaker 1: So of course it's Black music months and the Pride months,
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Speaker 1: so we get black pride is what. Yeah, I'm proud music.
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Speaker 1: A lot of primaries won in California in particular. I
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Speaker 1: guess it is the race for the governor's said, I
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Speaker 1: guess the race for the mayor.
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Speaker 2: Here's what galls the hell out of me.
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Speaker 1: I remember when Trump so mishandled the the COVID epidemic
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Speaker 1: that he lost in an election that he's still claiming
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Speaker 1: he won. All he had to do was pretend like
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Speaker 1: he cared what was happening. Right, he lost that election, right,
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Speaker 1: and then after he lost, he sent hordes of people
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Speaker 1: to attack the Capitol, and America still decided he should
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Speaker 1: be president over the qualified black women.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The podcast bros were the same podcast bros who
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Speaker 1: are now weighing in who don't live in Los Angeles,
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Speaker 1: are now telling us that Dispencer Pratt, who is a
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Speaker 1: frat boy, uh, you know, a conspiracy theorist, would be
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Speaker 1: a better candidate for mayor, a better mayor than Karen Baz.
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Speaker 1: But isn't it funny how they'll let a black white
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Speaker 1: dude take the country to the break like he so
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Speaker 1: mishandled COVID that people are the more people like remember
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Speaker 1: the sunshine and bleach. They let that dude in, and
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Speaker 1: then that very dude told them he would fix everything
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Speaker 1: day one, and nothing's fixed. He would not start new
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Speaker 1: wars and nothing. So isn't it funny how you will
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Speaker 1: And the frayin is given more time, Well, you won't
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Speaker 1: give her more time for problems that they have been
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Speaker 1: institutional Nah, that's all right. Last time we listened to you.
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Speaker 1: We're in the shape wind right now. So no, that's
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Speaker 1: all right. And last time I jumped down and said
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Speaker 1: some things about the qualified black women that I know
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Speaker 1: hurt them. I ain't doing this this time. That's time
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Speaker 1: as my best early. There's no way in hell that
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Speaker 1: that dude should have. It's crazy to me then, no
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Speaker 1: matter how qualified you are, if you've gone to school,
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Speaker 1: if you have tenure, if you've worked hard, h your
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Speaker 1: qualifications will still be questioned.
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Speaker 2: But a white dude only has to appear in a
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Speaker 2: reality show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, podcast, TV show, radio show. And the last time
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Speaker 1: listen to the podcast, bros, look at look what happened.
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Speaker 1: Now they're silent, So stay if you're gonna stay sided
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Speaker 1: about what you would you great us to do? Now,
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Speaker 1: don't weigh into our thing. Do that? Why don't you
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Speaker 1: talk to Texas where they're about to Well, that's on
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Speaker 1: the verge of electing a criminal and a pedophile, sister,
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Speaker 1: do that. Don't weigh in on us. Last time we
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Speaker 1: listened to you the country. Now I'm all right, I'll
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Speaker 1: stick with what I know to be best. Happy birthday
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Speaker 1: to Anderson Cooper, Happy birthday, the M. P. Hall. Happy
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Speaker 1: birthday to al Horford, that birth of the life Jennings.
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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Denise Williams. Silly Remember I used to
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Speaker 1: love that song. Happy birth the Raphel and the Dial.
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Speaker 1: Happy Birthday the Jalen Suggs haty birtha, the Jill Biden
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Speaker 1: out on her book tour. Happy birthday possibly, of course,
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Speaker 1: to Josephine Baker. Happy birthday, the Curtis Mayfield Freddy's Dead.
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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Tony Curtis, and of course our heartfelt
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Speaker 1: contolensis to people bryceon here.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking and uh and uh and Epaules
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Speaker 1: look cool that he did man like so him and
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Speaker 1: him and who is the.
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Speaker 2: Other dude used to wear the shoulder pads with it.
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Speaker 3: Who is that, Colonel Abrams?
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Speaker 1: Colonel Abrams, Colonel had everybody looked like that in a
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Speaker 1: club of goofy, but they did it cool, So rest
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Speaker 1: in peace, jazz man man, tell these good people spending well.
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Speaker 4: A lot of people are talking about the antics of
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Speaker 4: graduation ceremonies, which are going on right now and have
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Speaker 4: been for the past couple of weeks, depending on where
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Speaker 4: you are. The most recent a grid out of Chicago
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Speaker 4: female was denied her diploma after she, uh did the
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Speaker 4: splits on stage.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 4: Her mom came out in her in her defense rather
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Speaker 4: and said she had on a very long dress all
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Speaker 4: the way to the ground, so you couldn't really see anything.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: The student, who.
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Speaker 4: By the way, has a three point five grade average
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Speaker 4: and has already been accepted to a university to study medicine,
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Speaker 4: says that she told everybody what she was gonna do.
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Speaker 3: She said, I told the principal, I told you, everybody
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Speaker 3: give her.
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Speaker 4: You could see as she finished and she did her
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Speaker 4: little split, and she got up and waved and clapped,
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Speaker 4: and everybody was excited. And she walks over to the
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Speaker 4: principal and the principal is like, don't give her nothing.
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Speaker 2: You can't do that, dumb ass. Even if you don't
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Speaker 2: do it now, you're gonna give it to it till
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Speaker 2: she earned it.
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Speaker 3: You're gonna give it to it.
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Speaker 2: Lari.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if.
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Speaker 1: You don't, this is all that control kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: You're not my principal. And when I'm a grown person,
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Speaker 1: I'm going off to college, leave me, leave me alone.
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Speaker 1: I never had that experience cause I never got walk.
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Speaker 4: But I'm saying leader bride Alan, But it is big
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Speaker 4: conversation on social media as to what is and what
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Speaker 4: is not appropriate at a college, at a high school graduation,
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Speaker 4: when you cross, you know, there are a lot of
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Speaker 4: people even during commencement speeches or after at college universities,
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Speaker 4: you have a lot of people who if you're cute,
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Speaker 4: it's a lot of people who popped, you know. It's
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Speaker 4: a lot of people who do a ton of different things.
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Speaker 4: But my thing is in that moment that you've worked
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Speaker 4: for four hard years, whether it's in high school or college.
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Speaker 3: I know you don't know about either of those, but
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Speaker 3: it is a celebratory situation.
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Speaker 4: You're excited, you're happy to be starting a whole new
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Speaker 4: you know, a whole new path in life.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand why they're so upset.
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Speaker 1: Give me what I earn and stay out my business.
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Speaker 1: Win never got to see each other again. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: kid it what I earned later on. This is about
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Speaker 1: some power thing.
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Speaker 4: Move always always, always trying to control and speaking of
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Speaker 4: saying move wow. You know, we talked a little bit
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Speaker 4: about jay Z and his freestyle kind of spraying a
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Speaker 4: little bit of everybody. Well, he sprayed Dame Dash. We
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Speaker 4: know that, and Dame Dash is fire back saying jay
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Speaker 4: Z's breath is always smell bad. And he then he
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Speaker 4: turned around to shoot big red gums like I hope
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Speaker 4: he's not doing that again, and then he said he's
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Speaker 4: dressed like a microphone.
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't take.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't take gental advice from the dude who got
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Speaker 1: the identity.
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Speaker 3: He fell out.
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Speaker 2: You know your breakfast, Brad, when your teeth jump out,
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Speaker 2: So stop it, car he stop it. Dame Dance is
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Speaker 2: a hater.
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Speaker 1: Every time you can just do a show without telling
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Speaker 1: me how you a boss and how you know everything?
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Speaker 1: Why can't you ever do an interview without mentioning anybody else?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, we're criticizing people because remember that's what he
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Speaker 4: did last time.
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Speaker 3: He said, if you have a nine to five job,
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Speaker 3: you know you ain't going nowhere.
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Speaker 2: I remember that.
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Speaker 1: That's why you blind and why and one eye and
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Speaker 1: your teeth are gold. That's why jay Z mentioned him
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Speaker 1: in a freestyle because they've been taking shots at him
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Speaker 1: for years.
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Speaker 3: For sure. For sure, yeap stop.
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Speaker 1: It is an election season and sometimes I can't tell
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Speaker 1: whether the candidates are trolling are actually running for office.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 1: The case in point, uh, the gubulatorial candidate in Ohio,
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Speaker 1: Vivid grama swami.
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Speaker 2: Uhh is on a little bit.
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Speaker 1: In controversy because he said that he thinks a baby
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Speaker 1: is safer in Chicago. Uh, then it will be a
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Speaker 1: black baby safer in Chicago than it would be the
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Speaker 1: woman of a black woman. Uh. What's interesting is Vivid
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Speaker 1: Grama Swami has made his bones by being saying very
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Speaker 1: inflammatory people of the things about black people. And it's
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Speaker 1: interesting because he's running for governor of Ohio and in
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Speaker 1: Cleveland has a much higher crime rate than on than
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Speaker 1: the Chicago, So it's interesting you would do that. But
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Speaker 1: this is the kind of season where also h several
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Speaker 1: people had their applied states had their primaries, including California,
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Speaker 1: and of course, uh Karen Bass is now against reality
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Speaker 1: brat Spencer Spencer Pratt?
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Speaker 2: Right now?
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Speaker 1: What happened the last time America voted for a reality
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Speaker 1: star that was supported by a podcaster over the competent
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Speaker 1: black woman.
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Speaker 2: Aren't we doing that right now? What happened the last
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Speaker 2: time that happened?
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Speaker 1: And those who don't learn from history repeated, I remember
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Speaker 1: when Donald Trump mismanaged COVID so bad. You remember the
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Speaker 1: dude who let people die because he would rather like,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to have tests. Let's just stop testing
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Speaker 1: and then the numbers go down, or bleach and sunshine
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Speaker 1: will make it go away.
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Speaker 2: He's so mishandled.
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Speaker 1: He lost the election, fomitted in the insurrection, attacked the Capitol,
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Speaker 1: and they still gave a second bite of the apple.
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Speaker 1: In this iteration of his presidency, he said, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: have prices down.
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Speaker 2: We ain't gonna be no the wars. None of that
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Speaker 2: has happened, None of that got.
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Speaker 1: He's a fraud, he's a sexual assaulter, he's on the
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Speaker 1: f seing list.
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Speaker 2: None of that matter.
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Speaker 1: And the very people who told you he would be
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Speaker 1: the right guard now telling you who should be the
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Speaker 1: mayor of Los Angeles. What happened the last time you
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Speaker 1: took the unqualified reality star over the competent black women?
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Speaker 2: Where are you at right now? You can barely afford
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Speaker 2: gas or Hamburgs.
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Speaker 1: More bankruptcies, more a personal bank resident and foreign bankruptcies
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Speaker 1: than any point in our history, any point in our history.
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Speaker 1: And the thing that galls me the most, I don't
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Speaker 1: care what your qualification. I don't care if you are
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Speaker 1: a company, You've gone to school, you have a degree,
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Speaker 1: you have tenure at your job and experience, and you're
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Speaker 1: a black woman, even your qualifications will still be questioned.
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Speaker 1: Your ability to dudes, that will still be questioned. If
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Speaker 1: you are a white guy, all you gotta do is
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Speaker 1: be a reality star. The been mad at homeless. Homeless
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Speaker 1: been around since the nineteen seventy. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of problems in the state of California and the city
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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, no more so than anybody else, but
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Speaker 1: a lot of them, and all of them started primarily
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Speaker 1: before the black woman had her first term.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it ironic how you'll give.
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Speaker 1: An assaulter you're a sexual assault or a dude on
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Speaker 1: the ABS seeing list a fraud, a felon, a dude
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Speaker 1: who's guard awards and who's robbed this country blind. Isn't
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Speaker 1: it ironic? Then you will give him a second chest.
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Speaker 1: But tell me the black women who in office for
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Speaker 1: three years should have fixed these institutional problems. Miss me
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Speaker 1: with that, why would I listen to the very people
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Speaker 1: who got us right here? And let's here is where
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Speaker 1: you think we should be. That's a little note from
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Speaker 1: the ged session. It's the doo huge seller. She's jazz,
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Speaker 1: she smiled, It's the jazzy report on the d L.
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Speaker 2: Hughley Show.
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Speaker 4: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth blocked at least seven officers from
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Speaker 4: being promoted to one star admirals and what appears to
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Speaker 4: be his latest attack on diversity and woke beliefs in
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Speaker 4: the military's upper ranks. Heg Seth's move targeted at least
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Speaker 4: two women, two black men, and three white men, and
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Speaker 4: it appeared to violate the US military's political and merit
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Speaker 4: based promotional rules. The move marks the latest in a
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Speaker 4: series of firings and personnel decisions by heg Seth and
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Speaker 4: came just days after he delivered the speech to graduates
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Speaker 4: at the US Military Academy West Point.
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Speaker 1: Let's be clear, the attack on DEI and Wolf gun
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Speaker 1: after America had a come to Jesus moment on the
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Speaker 1: death of George Floyd. Correct, that is why they still
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Speaker 1: bringing that up.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Every time America moves forward, there's a backlash.
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Speaker 1: This is the backlash, and that's why telling jokes like
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Speaker 1: that have a thing. That's why, because George Floyd wasn't
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Speaker 1: just a guy. It was a guy that made America
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Speaker 1: see itself and they had to destroy him, and then
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Speaker 1: they had to attack everything that comes as a result
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Speaker 1: of it.
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Speaker 2: And this is what you got right now.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: The death of Woke is directly attributed to the death
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Speaker 2: of George Floyd.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: So that's why when you tell jokes that rose, you
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Speaker 1: got to be ready for the fact that these things
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Speaker 1: are always in play.
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Speaker 3: Well, here's some good news for you, maybe maybe not.
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Speaker 4: Signists now say they know the number of push ups
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Speaker 4: that you can do that might indicate your risk of
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Speaker 4: developing heart problems. Now, if you can do eleven push
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Speaker 4: ups and more, you have a sixty four percent lower
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Speaker 4: risk of a cardiovascular event compare to those who can
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Speaker 4: do less than that. If you could do twenty one
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Speaker 4: push up some more seventy five percent lower risk than
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Speaker 4: those who I guess can only do less than ten.
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Speaker 3: And if you could.
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Speaker 4: Do forty or more push ups, you have a ninety
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Speaker 4: six percent less risk of any heart problems.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, how they push ups? Can you do fifty going straight?
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Speaker 1: Nothing?
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Speaker 3: You got a break?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course no, not without no, not at all,
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Speaker 1: not at all.
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Speaker 3: Just check it.
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Speaker 2: Ninety six percent. So let me finish this cigar, since
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Speaker 2: you gave.
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Speaker 4: Me say nothing about stroke though you say nothing about it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, let me put it back down.
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Speaker 1: Okay, this is very interesting. I'm this is an influence
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Speaker 1: and a lot of these things come because we have
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Speaker 1: a show to do in their podcast, and it's something
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Speaker 1: an influencer. I don't know who you. I don't know
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Speaker 1: who you influence to do anything, but okay. An influencer
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Speaker 1: discussed the narrative that black men don't like black women,
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Speaker 1: especially when they have money. Take a lesson to it.
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Speaker 5: It's a narrative that we hear about black men.
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Speaker 3: They don't get me.
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Speaker 5: No, no, they don't like who Oh, they don't like
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Speaker 5: black women.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: The national average for black men who are married, what
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Speaker 5: do they married to? It's got to be black black
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Speaker 5: women at what percentage over eighty five percent? But it
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Speaker 5: don't matter though, because once they make money, that's when
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Speaker 5: they go get white women. White women the national average
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Speaker 5: for making over two hundred thousand dollars black men. Right,
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Speaker 5: how many of those women men are married to black women?
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Speaker 5: I'll give them by the cool ninety five.
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Speaker 1: Where do you think that narrative came from? Eight seven
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Speaker 1: seven two four to two two four two six.
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Speaker 4: Oh, set this up on Twitter or Doo Hugley Radio
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Speaker 4: or on Facebook video hughgu Ishow on the website is
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Speaker 4: the dal hug Show dot com.
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Speaker 1: All right, we got to get into your calls directly.
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Speaker 1: It is the Dal Hugues Show. The question that we're
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Speaker 1: asking an influencer discusses the narrative that black men don't
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Speaker 1: like black women, especially when they have money. Where do
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Speaker 1: you think that narrative came from? We're gonna go to
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Speaker 1: our social media platform especially, Okay, where are they saying nothing?
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Speaker 1: So we got Byron from South Dakota. Byrons in southa
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Speaker 1: says idiots, That's where it came from. I know that
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Speaker 1: I personally know some men who are jealous of women personally,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's a pervasive notion. But I think,
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Speaker 1: like anything else, like here is what tends to happen
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Speaker 1: if you say anything about one person, like when Steven
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Speaker 1: A said what he said about jas mccrackerman, black woman
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Speaker 1: got incensed even though he was talking to one person.
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Speaker 1: Or if an individual has a problem with a guy,
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Speaker 1: then it becomes more pervasive than just like you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. Or if somebody has a bad relationship
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Speaker 1: with their baby father, it becomes a pervasive mindset. So
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there are some people who had run
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Speaker 1: ins with dudes who don't see like they like. I
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Speaker 1: do know men who don't seem like they have a
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Speaker 1: lot of respect and hold women in low esteem. I
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Speaker 1: do know some men like that, But I think that's
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Speaker 1: but I think that those are individuals. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that I would say. I wonder where that whole idea,
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Speaker 1: that it's as pervasive as people talk, pervasive enough to
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Speaker 1: do a podcast, But I don't know where it came from.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know where it came from either.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I do agree that sometimes a narrative can
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Speaker 4: be pervasive based on one person. However, I think there
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Speaker 4: is also something called a trend that you can look
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Speaker 4: at and even though it might be just one person
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Speaker 4: who says it, there can also be some historical data
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Speaker 4: behind it to say, well, just not my viewpoint, and
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Speaker 4: also this, this, this, and this, I think you know, well,
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Speaker 4: you can collect it yourself.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it has to be scientifically done.
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Speaker 4: I mean I'm speaking specifically about like, say, for instance,
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Speaker 4: if I said, you know, I don't know something. If
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Speaker 4: I said men were most fathers, most black fathers were
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Speaker 4: deadbeat dads, which I would not say and I do
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Speaker 4: not agree with. But if I said that, and then
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Speaker 4: I also said, you know, I know fifty men who
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Speaker 4: don't take care of their children, then I think that
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Speaker 4: I could use that as at least a sampling of
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Speaker 4: you know, the people at least in my sphere or
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Speaker 4: in my nameborhood who don't take care of their And
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Speaker 4: I would say something.
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Speaker 1: Like when somebody says data data is is is acquired
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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways. You do case studies, you
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Speaker 1: do blind studies. You ask people from different great groups,
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Speaker 1: different ages, different you know, different facades in their lives.
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Speaker 1: So I think that we are we are when we.
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Speaker 4: Use WORLL that's not all the time, by the way,
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Speaker 4: just so you know, sometimes data does not come from
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Speaker 4: a lot of people. Sometimes the study is done on
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Speaker 4: a small group of people and they use that to
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Speaker 4: reflect now the larger people study at what, Where's what
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Speaker 4: something saying?
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Speaker 1: Where has a study been done that that that comports
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Speaker 1: with what this person is saying? What can what can
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Speaker 1: they like this study was done?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 4: I think we've jumped ahead of ourselves. I never said
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Speaker 4: I agree, I said where with this I have? I
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Speaker 4: have no idea, which is why I started my statement
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Speaker 4: out by saying, I don't know where they got this from,
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Speaker 4: and I don't know that I agree with it. But
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Speaker 4: I think when you say something like sometimes it comes
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Speaker 4: from one person, and that one person then makes a
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Speaker 4: blanket statement to mean all people. I'm saying, I can
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Speaker 4: see how if you had some kind of historic, you know,
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Speaker 4: precedent behind it saying you know, well this person you know.
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Speaker 1: I've heard woman say, you know, people don't like no people,
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Speaker 1: they don't like black women. Maybe they don't like you.
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Speaker 4: But I mean by you saying that, I conversely could
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Speaker 4: also say I've heard men say bad things about women
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Speaker 4: who got money.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean all of them.
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Speaker 1: I said exactly the same thing. I said that I
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Speaker 1: know a lot of men who don't I know some
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Speaker 1: men who don't seem to like women. But this pervasive notion,
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Speaker 1: I'm just asking, well, Chief's asking on this question where
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Speaker 1: it came from, And I think it comes from people's
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Speaker 1: lived experiences where they where they Then then somebody will
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Speaker 1: here and go. That's my experience too. Like they have
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Speaker 1: a they have a community,